Women like the average man

2709  2018-05-22 by bringeravrain

459 comments

All 4 of em fresh from Chad Farms

Because who wants a mean ugly incel like you?

Off, roastie

Lol you can call me that all you want. I actually have sex and know good womens anatomy.

wtf women have sex? I never knew

Because who wants a mean ugly incel like you?

No one. That’s the point, you whore.

Because you're being mean and ugly. Stop it and you could get a date.

stop being ugly and you could get a date

good advice I wish all roasties would be that blunt

OK I’m being nice now. Blow me

That's your idea of nice? You're going to be a virgin forever. Can't fix stupid.

You actually think we all started out mean? That’s not how bitterness works. Incels became mean because they couldn’t get gfs, not the other way around. I was the nicest guy in the world my whole life and it didn’t get me anywhere. Now I’m a bitter asshole because that’s all that is left to be. Die.

You only think you were nice. Your obvious sense of entitlement proves otherwise. Observe how you perceive others and you may find that you’re the one who has caused your relationship failures.

You’ve never even met me, and you certainly don’t know anything about what I used to be like. I’m bitter and resentful now but I wasn’t always.

You only think you were not a faggot. But I have the ability to look into your past and tell you that you always were.

I concur. Excellent DS.

You’re showing your lack of intelligence

Uh huh.

You speak in circles, make no sense, and are forever alone. Sad.

Cool.

Nope. You need to look outside your bubble.

I arrived at almost all the main incel ideas on my own before I even knew what the incel community was.

You’re both self righteous dicks and I think you’re bitter because you need something you don’t have.

The only difference between you too is that the other guy is more honest/genuine and you probably aren’t a virgin. He has a good reason to be a dickhead, even if his coping mechanisms are rapey, sexist, and self-entitled. Look at how people shit on incels all the time and expect them to just “wake up” to the fact that they are dick sucking neckbeards. I bet you’d be an arsehole too if the shoe were on the other foot.

I’m a woman. I will never feel like I’m entitled to sex because I’m not a selfish moron.

You do realize that calling these people selfish morons is the reason they exist, correct? They are a product of liberal condescension. I’m a far left democrat and I accept my share of this blame.

You and I created these people. I know they’re offensive, and I’m not too fond of them myself to be honest, more like extremely fascinated with their bizarre psychological problems. But what you’re doing is stoking a flame that is begging to be stoked. You are straight up knocking the chip off the shoulder. I wish every progressive would stop insulting these people. They won’t go away until you do. You don’t have to fuck them. Just ignore them.

Your statements, and all statements like them, are the reason we have a stupid buffoon bozo the fucking clown for president. Like I said, I understand why your knee jerk reaction is anger and shaming, what these people think about women is genuinely disgusting and I’m not arguing that.

What I am arguing is the fact you’re only compounding the problem with that attitude. It’s the reason the dems lost in ‘16 and it won’t get better until we all drop our pointy sticks and talk things out like adults. It’s getting like Lord of the Flies in this bitch. Pick a tribe.

Roasty getting Toasty

Are you fucking autistic? Literally proving the point incels are trying to make. No one wants ugly incels.

Because you are mean. Be genuinely nice and you might find different results.

You were actually pretty mean to the guy who said they were fresh from the Chad farm. He didnt say anything offensive or mean.

Being genuinely nice will make me more good looking?

Its because they're incel, not because they're ugly.

That’s like saying “it’s because he’s black, not African American”.

You can be ugly without being an incel if you have enough money.

You can be an incel without being ugly if you're mentally ill enough.

I'm just using incel logic here, buddy.

Comes here and shames ugly men,pathetic

she went mad cuz she saw this proves the blackpill and her entire dreamworld was shattered

It’s not hard to look good, most girls don’t care about how guys look, it’s how guys treat them.

The first one on the left is literally named chad.

He is the most chad like as well

hes 5‘5

GG

He's 6 2

ok alex ftom zhe same episode was who i meant

Lmao alex the manlet

chad is a terrorist

Is there something wrong with me bc personally I don't find any of them attractive lol

Are females finally realizing they only like one type of man? Are they finally becoming self-aware?

The post seems to be by a black man though.

It's named black pill for a reason

I got my hopes up and everything, shit

Black people can drop black pills all over twitter and for some reason it goes over well.

They get their share of whining, especially when keyboard slacktivists get high on blaming ebil whitey.

We need a based black pilled black man to start a political movement for enforced monogamy, then we'd have some real pull.

I nominate spaceghost purp

faceandlms is black

this

isnt he the incel jay z?

he is partly pointing out how the show is racist which he shows proof of and sjws are trained not to disagree with that

STOP POLICING WOMENS SEXUAL PREFERENCES REEEEEEEEE

Slavery is the best card, can always hold that over white women. Shit like the murder of Emmett Till means white women can never fucking spout shit with regards to muh oppression when a black man speaks.

BUT they can identify based upon their mutual enslavement by white men during plantation times. White women were not that much better off than slaves those days. They were better off, but not by a huge amount.

They still couldn’t vote, own land, or basically even exist without a husband except in unusual circumstances. If you think about it from a social justice perspective, they peas in a pod ya gots to admit.

White women were not that much better off than slaves those days. They were better off, but not by a huge amount.

Holy fucking shit, it really has come to the point where being treated like a fucking beast of burdern, seen as truly subhuman, shipped over from your home country on a death ride, and an overarching air of contempt against you that lasts until the modern day is put on a par with white women's troubles.

The same women who would say "that filthy nigger whstled at me" and got them killed.

I aint even saying women had a good time of it in those days but fuuuuck.

Don't go there dude.

Glad someone said it.

she also admitted to making it up. it's so bad that the fbi reopened the investigation a couple of months ago.

Black people were literally property that could be murdered at any time without it being a crime. So yeah.

Change the record jeez.

Nah.

they lack the capacity

Alexa and Siri are more self-aware than the average femoid.

We like plenty of types of men. None of them are you guys because you're little bitches who complain instead of actually doing something.

Your account is satire, right

Who appointed you to speak on behalf of all women?

The irony lmao

More like turning tables. I don't think that technically qualifies as irony but idk.

Putting the "roast" in roast beef!

It was me, I did it.

Do you have the signatures of at least 90 UN members, that authorize the user to be the representative of 3.7 billion women?

Can the representative be recalled?

Do you have the signatures of at least 90 UN members, that authorize the user to be the representative of 3.7 billion women?

Yeah, they said ur a fagget.

Can the representative be recalled?

No, but they called u a fagget again lol.

A tee hee hee, since we're playing "joke like a 10 year old" can I punch you really hard to show that I like you?

I mean, you could try but I'd probably just be unimpressed with your punch.

Hey, it's a numbers game, right?

Yeah, sure, why not.

Well, if she’s a woman, she’d be considered in the “all” group. If one female proves you wrong, you need to go back to the drawing board because obviously some women are attracted to different types of guys.

What are trends and outliers? 🙄

Okay

N=1, an outlier at best, an aberration at worst. Proves nothing.

Proof?

We like plenty of types of men. None of them are you guys because you're little

stopped reading here

that's very ambitious dude, anything less than scientists in white cloaks clinically proving it in laboratories will be trumped by denial

Like you think that wouldn't be denied as well...

I dont like any of them :/

I'm not like other girls teehee

No, you just haven't met a girl who isnt fucking mental. Not everyone thinks just guys like that are hot smh, else everyone would look like that

Did you really just say that unironically? Please just leave

Okay ill leave you to your pity party. Have fun denying proof that your opinions are invalid.

"Proof" lmao. Eat shit whore

'All girls only like chads' me, a girl: doesnt like only chads hey you know thats not true right? 'Eat shit whore'

Yeah you really proved that you don't only (lmao) like Chads! Plenty of evidence presented! Oh and one exception is totally relevant and is somehow meant to change my mind, how great!

You are very stupid and of course I'd tell you to eat shit when you tell me to get back to my "pity party" because I didn't immediately praise you for offering your worthless perspective on my post. The fucking arrogance on you, you used up cunt.

Yeah you really proved that you don't only (lmao) like Chads!

My bf is what most people would call a 4/10 possibly could be a 5 one day.

one exception is totally relevant and is meant to change my mind for some reason, how great!

Yall always use one off examples for women being man hating whores. Sure theres a lot of them, but there's a lot of women like me too.

eat shit when you tell me to get back to my "pity party" because I didn't immediately praise you for offering your worthless perspective on my post

No, i was simply saying that it is a pity party, this sub makes me really sad about life, cause y'all seem to think that its shit just cause you ain't got a gf? You arnt defined by how many girls you have, youre the ones defining people like that...

The fucking arrogance on you, you used up cunt.

Speaking of no proof.... Ironic eh?

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Holy shit, more statements with no proof and unironic use of y'all. Every single fucking time.

statements with no proof

Which? Ill try get some.

unironic use of y'all

Because when i say 'you' people get confused and think i mean them not you all.

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eat shit when you tell me to get back to my "pity party"

No, i was simply saying that it is a pity party,

It's impressive how you manage a knee-jerk reaction in text. Women, eh?

Sorry, what do you mean by knee jerk reaction?

The "no" and "yes" in the same sentence.

Ah. Okay, i didn't mean it offensively i just think you should call stop wallowing in self pity.

Nah, I won't shut up in the place that is supposed to be mine.

Thanks for the suggestion though, it's absoluuuutely apprreeciated. Yeah...

Aight chill out, i just wish i could help you all but most of you just cause your own misery, ive done it to myself in other circumstances and its upsetting. I won't be condescending and say i wanna hug you and say youre loved but you guys could ignore inceltears and braincels and be happier about it all...

I won't be condescending

she said, condescendingly.

Didnt mean to come across like that, sorry fam

show proof

Of what

your bf being a 4/10

watch him be chadly

or he is a normie but you're fat

The burden of proof is on you since you’re making the extreme claim. Good luck!

Eat shit white knight

Wonderful arguing technique you have. Hope it gets you somewhere.

Almost 100% of girls say they are not like other girls. It’s literally the most “like other girls” thing you could say.

Yeah cause they're only Chadlite, not Chad.

They're kinda ugly tbh...

aka more like Chad

Suuuure, give me an example image of a 'chad'

Why are his eyes going in different fucking directions

Yeah you'd be so creeped out if he said hi to you. And there's nothing wrong with his eyes, I think your perception of the image may have momentarily slightly warped, possibly due to dilating pupils and diverted blood flow.

https://flavorwire.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/averagemanmichaelwhatley.jpg?w=1024

This man is so much more attractive, right?

Yeah you'd be so creeped out if he said hi to you.

Id walk away silently but i have mild social anxiety so....?

think your perception of the image may have momentarily slightly warped, possibly due to dilating pupils and diverted blood flow.

Uhm nope that happens when you get emotionally attached to someone plz get your facts straight :)

This man is so much more attractive, right?

Honestly, yes. Id much rather be friends with / date / fuck / etc him than Mr CarbonCopy

Id walk away silently but i have mild social anxiety so....?

You mean Chad induced shyness?

Uhm nope that happens when you get emotionally attached to someone plz get your facts straight :)

That's what happens when you experience arousal.

Honestly, yes. Id much rather be friends with / date / fuck / etc him than Mr CarbonCopy

TBH sounds like you're just one of those insecure girls who're afraid Chad would cheat on them. It doesn't mean you're viscerally more attracted to ugly dudes than Chad, it just means you think they're safer relationships, because you don't feel you're good enough for Chad.

That's fucked up, and that kind of mentality leads to infidelity down the line.

And Jordan Barrett (here's 20 bucks that says you go google that name) is anything but a carbon copy. He stands out, that's why he's a model.

You mean Chad induced shyness?

I mean i cant speak in front of more than 4 of my friends at once because i get so anxious.

That's what happens when you experience arousal.

Ive never been aroused just looking at someones face... Ill have to take your word for it.

TBH sounds like you're just one of those insecure girls who're afraid Chad would cheat on them.

I would be afraid of anyone cheating on me because i have a very very low self esteem.

doesn't mean you're viscerally more attracted to ugly dudes than Chad, it just means you think they're safer relationships, because you don't feel you're good enough for Chad.

I dont particularly like relationships anyway. All i want is a close friend who i can trust to watch my back and cuddle while i eat pizza and watch netflix.

I would still shag the second guy over the chad i think the chad is ugly and id only shag him if he gave me £200 for it cuz then at least im getting something.

Thanks for confirming it for me, fam. Woman naturally perceive Chad as a more dangerous long term partner, but attractive woman are more likely to report preference for Chad and women are more likely to report preference for Chad if they are assured he will be faithful.

The issue for fidelity comes into play when you're in a relationship with a man you like because he's safe and non-Chad, but that time of the month rolls around (I'm referring to ovulation, not menstruation) and your preference for Chad is heightened (also a well documented fact), and you realize Chad doesn't need to commit if you just fuck him and have your nice Beta at home to take care of you.

And of course you've never just gotten aroused at a guy's face before, you're boyfriend is 4/10 by your own admission.

If you get to the end of your life without cheating on your boyfriend/husband, I will contribute heavily to your inheritance to your descendants.

naturally perceive Chad as a more dangerous long term partner,

Dangerous to my will to live

Chad isn't creepy or soulless, his attractiveness just intimidates you.

Hes ugly. Face facts not all girls are evil.

you're in a relationship with a man you like because he's safe and non-Chad,

Im in a relationship because he (my bf) is a nice person who loves me, not cause of his looks.

I'm referring to ovulation, not menstruation) and your preference for Chad is heightened

Nope

(also a well documented fact)

Proof?

Chad doesn't need to commit if you just fuck him and have your nice Beta at home to take care of you.

That's cheating ew no

And of course you've never just gotten aroused at a guy's face before, your boyfriend is 4/10 by your own admission.

Any guy not my bf, no chad has ever made me horny. It sounds awful and cringey but my biggest turn on is a guy who finds me attractive for me, not because he can insult me then dump me

If you get to the end of your life without cheating on your boyfriend/husband, I will contribute heavily to your inheritance to your descendants.

if you get a wife or girlfriend whos had sex before and dont once call her a roastie ill literally be your willing slave

Dangerous to my will to live

But you recognize the way in which they are dangerous to you here:

not because he can insult me then dump me

.

Hes ugly. Face facts not all girls are evil.

Unfortunately the evidence I've read makes it seem like you're part of the women in the studies with the bad self esteem, which leads them to measure themselves as not able to keep a Chad loyal to them. You've already admitted straight up to having bad self esteem, so I don't see why you can't at least consider this point.

And I don't mind that you have this preference, I don't call you evil for it. I'd call you evil for your inevitable infidelity, though.

Proof?

It's well documented that women's preference for facial masculinity increases when they ovulate. This leads people to conclude that this is part of women's dual mating strategy, in which they may have a safe less masculine partner to take care of them, and a very masculine partner to impregnate them.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1090513899000331

It sounds awful and cringey but my biggest turn on is a guy who finds me attractive for me

Again you're just feeding into my point. What you look for in a man is subservience (and view a man with a high sexual market value as not subserviant) but this is the kind of relationship dynamic that creates dead bedrooms and infidelity.

if you get a wife or girlfriend whos had sex before

I don't seriously date women that aren't virgins, so I would never have a wife or girlfriend that's had sex before.

Dangerous to my will to live

But you recognize the way in which they are dangerous to you here:

Dangerous as in i would rather hang myself than date a chad

Unfortunately the evidence I've read makes it seem like you're part of the women in the studies with the bad self esteem, which leads them to measure themselves as not able to keep a Chad loyal to them. You've already admitted straight up to having bad self esteem, so I don't see why you can't at least consider this point.

Ok, let me try again. I DO NOT FIND CHADS ANY. MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN ANYONE ELSE AND IF ANYTHING I WOULD AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS. NOT BECAUSE OF MY SELF ESTEEM. BECAUSE I DON'T CARE ABOUT LOOKS I WANT SOMEONE WHO TREATS ME LIKE AN EQUAL.

And I don't mind that you have this preference, I don't call you evil for it.

Whoodeedo an incel with at least part of a brain.

It's well documented that women's preference for facial masculinity increases when they ovulate. This leads people to conclude that this is part of women's dual mating strategy, in which they may have a safe less masculine partner to take care of them, and a very masculine partner to impregnate them.

Fair enough, but personally ive never experienced this when im ovulating i get overrun with hormones eat ice cream cry because i get more spots and watch netflix alone. When im on my period i get aggressively horny and i am all over mg boyfriend as soon as i see him, not all over chads.

Again you're just feeding into my point. What you look for in a man is subservience (and view a man with a high sexual market value as not liable to be subservient) but this is the kind of relationship dynamic that creates dead bedrooms and infidelity.

I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about you totally lost me, but ill have a go anyway.

you look for in a man is subservience (and view a man with a high sexual market value as not liable to be subservient)

I dont want a guy just because hes available or a 'save' choice.

but this is the kind of relationship dynamic that creates dead bedrooms

There will never be a dead bedroom with me because i have highly repressed sexual desires and massive 'problems' around sex in general. (Wont be specific cuz of my own privacy)

infidelity

Should probably google this cuz u keep using it but i aint gonna cuz im lazy

I would never have a wife or girlfriend that's had sex before.

Why?

Dangerous as in i would rather hang myself than date a chad

Ok, let me try again. I DO NOT FIND CHADS ANY. MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN ANYONE ELSE AND IF ANYTHING I WOULD AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS. NOT BECAUSE OF MY SELF ESTEEM. BECAUSE I DON'T CARE ABOUT LOOKS I WANT SOMEONE WHO TREATS ME LIKE AN EQUAL.

And again, I just don't have any reason to believe you when the evidence contradicts you.

Whoodeedo an incel with at least part of a brain.

Apparently having a "part of a brain" means not being mean to you.

but personally ive never experienced this when im ovulating

Do you not take birth control?

I dont want a guy just because hes available or a 'save' choice.

See my first statement, with consideration for the wealth of evidence I've seen, I just don't believe you. This dynamic is incredibly well documented.

There will never be a dead bedroom with me because i have highly repressed sexual desires and massive 'problems' around sex in general. (Wont be specific cuz of my own privacy)

Uh, doesn't that guarantee a dead bedroom? Dead bedroom = no sex happening.

Why?

Another very well documented fact is that marriages in which the wife only ever had sex with her husband are the most likely to succeed.

And again, I just don't have any reason to believe you when the evidence contradicts you.

Dangerous as in i would rather hang myself than date a chad

^ is a hyperbole so....

Apparently having a "part of a brain" means not being mean to you.

Savaaaaage boiiiiii gj i walked into that

Do you not take birth control?

No im waiting till im 20 because i want my hormomes to sort their shit out before i fuck with them more

See my first statement, with consideration for the wealth of evidence I've seen, I just don't believe you. This dynamic is incredibly well documented.

Well idk what to say believe me or dont changes nothing for me.

Uh, doesn't that guarantee a dead bedroom? Dead bedroom = no sex happening.

No, i repressed being sexual for so long it kinda comes out massively now, and my 'problems' cause many weird kinks so my boyfriend fuckin loves it haha

Another very well documented fact is that marriages in which the wife only ever had sex with her husband are the most likely to succeed.

I believe marriage should be rejected, both from personal experience with family members and their marriages and from a philosophy students POV because of its connotations with the church and controlling people. But you do you good luck to you fam

I believe marriage should be rejected, both from personal experience with family members and their marriages and from a philosophy students POV because of its connotations with the church and controlling people. But you do you good luck to you fam

Thanks for sharing your personal thoughts, but they're not relevant.

Success of marriage vs promiscuity just shows you that the more you fuck, the worse your chances of being able to stay in a long term relationship are.

Wow calm down mate. Marriage works for people who believe in being with one person forever or going to hell. Ya know? The people who get into a contract with their partner and God? So. People who dont get married. Don't have those opinions. So its not actually marriage. Its the opinion of being with one person. Also half of all marriages end in divorce.

So what, you're saying you wouldn't find it desirable to be able to stay happy with one person for your whole life?

Also half of all marriages end in divorce.

And less than 10% of marriages in which the wife was a virgin end in divorce.

But does that take into account the vast amount of girls who get pulled into a relationship and marriage at a young age and have no idea how to leave their partner? Statistics cant always be trusted im just saying even if you marry a virgin it wont necessarily be perfect. What happens if you find a girl whos a 7, loves you for personality and looks, has the same interests, seems perfect, but shes fucked 5 guys? (Not hating just curious)

And no i wouldn't find it desirable but i have problems with being in relatonships because as soon as i get into one i try leave because i hate feeling trapped with someone so :/ thats just me though i do understand most people want someone to be with forever (however as you pointed out before (might have been you lost track of people and threads sorry if it wasn't) we are designed to fuck and dump to reproduce...)

But does that take into account the vast amount of girls who get pulled into a relationship and marriage at a young age and have no idea how to leave their partner?

It notes a correlation with the fact that generally the longer women wait to have sex, the more likely they will be to have fewer sexual partners. So if anything, these women waiting til marriage are older than average.

im just saying even if you marry a virgin it wont necessarily be perfect

Yeah, up to a 10% chance. That's still the best predictor I've ever seen in my life.

And no i wouldn't find it desirable but i have problems with being in relatonships because as soon as i get into one i try leave because i hate feeling trapped with someone so

That's beyond fucked up. You need therapy more than anyone else in this sub. 20 bucks says you've got self harm scars.

we are designed to fuck and dump to reproduce

Probably not something I said, I'm a little bit more sophisticated on the topic of evolution. Genes exist to create more genes by virtue of the fact that genes that exist more exist more. This doesn't mean that the best way to gain genetic dominance is to be promiscuous.

It is observed that the greater the sexual restraint in a society, the greater the society. In other words, if we enforce monogamy, and aren't just fucking around all the time, we can easily displace groups that do just fuck around all the time.

That's beyond fucked up. You need therapy more than anyone else in this sub. 20 bucks says you've got self harm scars.

Yea i fucking know mate. I am getting it and i do have them.

Genes exist to create more genes by virtue of the fact that genes that exist more exist more

Ooooh Dawkins fan, the 'selfish gene' idea... Completely agree and sorry for getting you confused aha.

It is observed that the greater the sexual restraint in a society, the greater the society. In other words, if we enforce monogamy, and aren't just fucking around all the time, we can easily displace groups that do just fuck around all the time.

To am extent yes, but that doesnt mean we cant have sex for pleasure. (I dont wanna get to far into ethics in case i lose you cuz idk what you know and dont, but - its like higher and lower pleasures, sex being lower and fine dining being higher, some people say we should reject lower pleasures over higher but i follow the idea that satisfying lower pleasures helps us gain higher pleasures.) Who works better, someone who has sex for pleasure or someone who is pent up and frustrated? Same goes for tiredness and hunger etc. Similar to the 'holoship' in the BBC tv show Red Dwarf (its good you should watch it if you haven't) where sex is a basic pleasure and they do it thoughtlessly because reproduction isn't necessary and its treated as casually as a hug and its rude to refuse.

WOW we got off topic oopsie...

Yea i fucking know mate. I am getting it and i do have them.

If you don't mind me asking: You've said you're younger than 20, but how many sexual partners have you had?

To am extent yes, but that doesnt mean we cant have sex for pleasure

I didn't imply that. Sex is clearly an important bonding tool, people should fuck all the time, provided it's part of a strict monogamous relationships that's supposed to last until death do them part.

That's how the big man Aldous Huxley saw it. Now I don't agree with him on the drug use and new wave perennialism, but the sex thing is fine.

Who works better, someone who has sex for pleasure or someone who is pent up and frustrated

Well loads of spiritualist communities practiced semen retention, because they believed it made them work better, so the answer there isn't cut and dry.

Overall, it's just a fact that a promiscuous society is a primitive society. I don't really consider Red Dwarf to be an authority on this topic, nor Star Trek for that matter.

If you don't mind me asking: You've said you're younger than 20, but how many sexual partners have you had?

One

people should fuck all the time, provided it's part of a strict monogamous relationships that's supposed to last until death do them part.

What if you both decide later on in the relationship that you want to move on, people arnt always meant to be in your life forever.

Well loads of spiritualist communities practiced semen retention, because they believed it made them work better, so the answer there isn't cut and dry. The last thing you want is to be a decadent.

True.

Overall, it's just a fact that a promiscuous society is a primitive society.

Not necessarily.

Red Dwarf to be an authority on this topic, nor Star Trek for that matter.

Its the idea of a society like that, not the actual science behind it.

One

And you haven't broken up with him yet? I'm confused.

What if you both decide later on in the relationship that you want to move on

I like to think that a relationship becomes of true value if you stick together through such obstacles.

Not necessarily.

necessarily

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adverb:

as a necessary result; inevitably.

So yes, necessarily. That's what the empirical evidence shows, and I understand some fundamental principles as to why. Those being that monogamy is critically important to society because it keeps lower tiers of men from getting violent, and because it keeps all men able to be comfortable in investing in their children, thereby allowing society to exist. It's also a very powerful eugenic force, nuclear monogamy specifically. Look up the Hajnal line.

And you haven't broken up with him yet? I'm confused.

Why

I like to think that a relationship becomes of true value if you stick together through such obstacles.

Ah I see.

necessarily

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Honestly cba anymore its nearly 11pm u win

Why

"i have problems with being in relatonships because as soon as i get into one i try leave because i hate feeling trapped with someone so :/" - you

Oh, and looking back at the comment in which you wrote that, I didn't actually answer your question. No, virginity is an absolute rule that I don't allow myself to break. Under no circumstance would I invest emotionally or financially in a woman who wasn't a virgin.

"i have problems with being in relatonships because as soon as i get into one i try leave because i hate feeling trapped with someone so :/" - you

Fair. Im staying because hes a close friend anyway and hes got enough to deal with atm i wanna stand by him

Oh, and looking back at the comment in which you wrote that, I didn't actually answer your question. No, virginity is an absolute rule that I don't allow myself to break. Under no circumstance would I invest emotionally or financially in a woman who wasn't a virgin. That's literally my one and only rule. That and 4/10 minimum.

Oh. Seems a bit stupid to me but thats just personal opinion i guess. Anyway good luck with that fam. Im going to bed.

Fair. Im staying because hes a close friend anyway and hes got enough to deal with atm i wanna stand by him

Good luck. Hope you don't screw it up.

Seems a bit stupid to me but thats just personal opinion i guess

As I said, it's the best predictor I've ever seen. Virgin = Over a 90% chance of success. I've never seen any other trait mapped this way. So, as I said, as long as she's a virgin I'm willing to give any kind of girl a shot.

Good luck. Hope you don't screw it up.

Thanks. I hope so too aha

As I said, it's the best predictor I've ever seen. Virgin = Over a 90% chance of success. I've never seen any other trait mapped this way. So, as I said, as long as she's a virgin I'm willing to give any kind of girl a shot.

Sounds like a better plan than most incels have. Good for you.

Sounds like a better plan than most incels have

If I was an incel, there'd be no way I'd have a chance with a virgin in today's landscape.

If you want ammo to accuse me with of personal investment in our earlier argument: I have most "Chad" facial characteristics, so I have great success with women. I'm allowed to be picky for this reason.

So maybe I was just pissed at you for not considering him, and thereby me, attractive

Well thanks for being honest, but 'pretty boy's just aint my style. I only get attracted to people I know and trust.

That wasn't an absolute statement, it's just a possible caveat. I still stand by every assertion I made.

Caveat?

"a warning or proviso of specific stipulations, conditions, or limitations."

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Really? We do? Gosh, thanks for letting me know! I have to go tell my socially awkward Mexican boyfriend! /s

Real talk, though, everyone has different taste. These guys are hot to some people, some people find them generic. If you treat all women like they're clones of each other you won't be able to have a relationship. Nobody wants to be with someone who treats them like a stereotype. Would you want to be with a woman who treated you like a dopey, car guy sitcom character? Probably not, because that sounds shitty.

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Former fat, thanks to my loving parents for giving me an extremely unhealthy relationship with food that they partially used to replace affection. Yay parental neglect! I dropped over 60lbs and gained a bunch of muscle tone. It's pretty fun having strong arms. You can lose weight too. It actually isn't that hard once you get through the first month or so, though it's hell to start with. Purple hair isn't for everyone, but I've been dying it for about 10 years now, so I don't feel like myself without some unnatural color. Plus, if you dye your hair a vibrant color, it makes every outfit you wear look like you're some sort of cool punk rocker even if you're just in sweats. But, really, I think everyone has potential to better themselves, even the emotionally broken. Overcoming abuse and mental issues is really hard and it takes a long time and a lot of effort, but it can be done. I know this because I'm in the process of doing that and even though sometimes it feels like the world is just going to keep flinging shit at you, it feels good to look back and see that you're a better version of yourself than you were month ago.

Jesus you're an even bigger mess than I thought. Leave you used up thot

Lol hit kettle, I'm pot.

Makes no sense

hey rozeline you seem like a decent person, do yourself a favor and just avoid this subreddit. all of the incels here have confirmation bias anyway, you can't get through to them. that's why they're incels.

Yeah, it's too bad. I hate seeing people suffer, even if they are doing it to themselves.

The show usually has the same type of women as contestants too, couples tend to match each other that way sometimes so it makes sense

I don’t look like these guys and I have a girlfriend. What are you on about?

Are you honestly genuinely retarded? I'm curious.

Classic incel response. Take a shower once in a while and you might pique some female interest. Or maybe pursue a female that’s actually in your league.

Ahahahahahaha this is too good

the thing I hate most about roasties is that they all like the same guy

Contrary to incel sheepledge, studies show that men show less variation than women when it comes to identifying an attractive member of the opposite sex. Ie. men all like the same girls.

what you think is objectively an attractive female != what YOU are attracted to

meanwhile women:

http://i.imgur.com/2MstAzl.gif

Conveniently removed the part from that same study showing that men overwhelmingly messaged the most attractive women over the least attractive women, whereas women pretty much messaged all men equally with only a slight shift towards higher attractiveness.

Link?

Given that less attractive women are not likely to have lower standards, why would you expect more men to message less attractive women. For a hot guy, it makes sense to message the hot girls. For a non-hot guy, it makes sense to message both hot and homely girls. Thus, of course hot girls will receive more messages.

Such a devastating black pill OKC had it disappeared down the memory hole. In fact it seems that all the data OKC releases just further debunks its business model.

what you think is objectively an attractive female != what YOU are attracted to

While complaining about a show that to be successful would need to pick "objectively" attractive men.

men fuck and date everything

Exactly what what people do, not what they say. Especially for women, because they are dishonest, particularly with regards to sexual and social matters.

No study says what he said. Im a med student and although a volcel mgtow ive read a lot of evo psych... Which is the science that confirms a lot of what we are saying

Evolutionary psychology is basically speculation. You can't conduct experiments or even gather observational data on humans who existed 3,000 years ago. Furthermore, the gender theories that exist within evo psych don't tend to hold true when applied cross culturally.

This isn't to say it evolutionary psychology should never be considered, just that it shouldn't be viewed as a conclusive explanation of all behaviors and motivations.

Fuck yes, date no

I've fucksd some gross bitches but I would never want to be seen in public with them

lol

Link it.

Female sexuality is much more complex than men's so it is absolutely true that women show more variation than men while judging someone's attractiveness.

However, women's attraction is much weaker because they are affected by their hormonal cycles(preferring more masculine men during ovulation), preselection and they focus on turnoffs much more than turnons which can result in a woman completely losing attraction just from a single turnoff. They also lose sexual desire for their partners much faster compared to men.

You might want to read the actual papers before citing them. That's how you can avoid silly slip-ups like this. :P

It's not a slip-up.

Oh, so it's a straight out lie then.

That couldnt be more backwards. There are guys with a fetish for all shapes and sizes of women and any flaw you can think of. On the other side theres only like 3 body types women want (lean & athletic, big & jacked, or tall & skinny), and if a guy is some combo of short, ugly, balding, fat, etc he is invisible to women. You have it on easy mode.

Why do a complete 180 degrees lie? Those types of lies aren't believed by anyone. Are you dumb or are you just pretending?

studies

Link studies? Doubt you can because it seems like a really hard thing to do a study on.

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All men like the same girl Ie. Any girl that is in reasonable shape that takes care of herself.

I.e. men all like the same girls

It probably means men like youthfullness and child-rearing hips. So what? Compared to American women, American men have no dominant racial preference (compared to women who strongly prefer White men), are more likely to find the average person of the opposite sex attractive, care less about height, care less about age, care less about income, and care less about facial features.

No, check my link.

I think you're assuming women use the masculine mate evaluation method (mostly looks), which is quite an adorably masculine sort of mistake to make. But the feminine evaluation method for men is actually a lot more complicated than that.

There are so many different ways for a man to be attractive. Men jerk it mostly to pictures and videos, but women prefer different stimulation when they touch themselves, they read! If anything, the prevalence of romance novels should be an indication enough that women aren't really visual creatures. And if you look at the variation in the different male leads in women's romance novels. While there are some common traits, like needing to be fixed in some way, being attractive, forceful, and strong-willed, the other elements can vary wildly. For women the equation looks something like:

Some intelligence + some leader-like ability + some looks + some romanticness + some competence (or ambitions of being competent, often represented with status) + being fix-able in some way.

That is not what we are saying, genetics and looks is the most powerful indicator of masculinity. Of course, in a book like that, the guy is going to have all those other masculine features as well, because it's fantasy. Nonetheless, looking masculine, being reasonably tall, square-jawed etc is the ideal man for every woman. The variations are irrelevant because what matters stays the same. That is why they all like the same guy.

First, in your example, "nice to everyone", thats not attractive at all. Women aren't attracted to meek compliant men, women want bold and forceful males who are willing to challenge other people. And women are definitely attracted to blonde guys with blue eyes. As for paleness, I will point you in the direction of the absurd number of vampire romance novels, who are often explicitly stated as being pale.

Secondly, you have it completely ass-backwards. Just because there are common traits that women find attractive, that doesn't mean its all the same guy. Let me give you an example; In Twilight (2nd best selling romance novel of all time) You have Edward Cullen (vampire) and Jacob Black (werewolf). These two are quite different and are attractive to Belle for completely different reasons. Edward is romantic and extremely disciplined and resilient, he's quiet, intriguing, and mysterious. Meanwhile Jacob is a jock, he's extroverted, he's a leader, aggressive, he's violent, and he's unpredictable. They are both exceptional males with forceful personalities who have fix-able personal problems, and that's where their similarities end.

If you search Google Images for "romance novel covers" you get a shitload of covers with guys that all look like a stereotypical Chad.

Attractiveness is a factor, but women aren't just staring at the cover the whole time. If women wanted to do that they wouldn't be reading romance novels in overwhelming proportions in comparison other ways of getting off.

Look you’re not 100% wrong, but you’re also wrong

Women care about looks. We ALL care about looks. When I’m fat, low attention. When I’m leaned out, High attention & constant flirting. My personality didn’t change, im the exact same person, but looking good (or healthy af) is a major point.

I know what you’re trying to learn, but to put it in words that probably suit you better.

A GOOD LOOKING, FIT MAN, MAKES HER WANT HIS GENETICS FOR HER OFFSPRING.

Which... that felt weird to type

Its true, but will you at least acknowledge that personality is not completely irrelevant?

Without the looks personality is irrelevant.

And you're implying with looks it does become relevant?

Yes, relevant in mate selection.

I would say yes. Women start caring about personality, hobbies etc after they've narrowed down to the group of tall handsome men to choose from.

I just lurk here for lulz, but I have an absolute shit personality and women absolutely love me. Want to hazard a guess as to why? These guys are wrong on a lot things but their foundation seems sound.

If you can actually have a conversation, then thats not a shit personality. If you're challenging and playful (like right now), thats not a shit personality. If you're so confident that women absolutely love you, then thats not a shit personality. If you can give credit to people while also criticizing them

I'm a chubby brown man. Weak chin (although I offset that with a beard) thick nose, etc... Point is, I'm not good looking. Nonetheless I've never struggled with girls. Not "hauling in pussy", but never been at point in my life where I don't get any female attention.

Learning to have fun with girls, avoiding creepiness or entitlement goes a long way. Currently in a relationship with a beautiful girl. Definitely not a looks based relationship.

The reason why your personality is irrelevant to girls around you is because your personality is irrelevant to you.

First of all, anecdotes do not dispute the rule.

Second of all, you might be evenly matched with your partner. Good for you still, I'm happy that you've found happiness.

The reason why your personality is irrelevant to girls around you is because your personality is irrelevant to you.

I was speaking in generalities but thanks for playing. Making it personal - definitely the move never tried before by anyone.

I didn't mean you as in personally you. I meant that if you make it super relevant eventually that will lead to be with people that think it relevant too. I can see that you're not being unreasonable or anything. If you truly believe the rule is for girls to be like that, then you know there are also outliers. Make it very much about your personality and eventually you find those outliers.

That’s also trash. Looks aren’t 100% everything.

An ugly man can still get a stunner... if he’s stacking cash.

L M S, right. You know why L comes first every time though?

No explain please :)

Also L M S?

I’m assuming looks, money, &....... sex???

Men jerk it mostly to pictures and videos, but women prefer different stimulation when they touch themselves, they read!

Mega cope.

They read, and ALL picture the same male archetype: Large skeleton, toned muscles, defined skull, thick hair.

In real life, men come in many shapes and sizes that overwhelmingly most women absolutely never fantasize about. THATS WHY WOMEN ACTUALLY REFER TO A SELECT FEW MEN AS "REAL MEN". Many many women actually use this term when describing attractive men lmao. Meanwhile, also in real life, outside of the way you apparently want to see things, men literally jerk it to photos and videos of all different kinds of women! There's big ass porn, small tits porn, BBW porn, ect. Men are obviously the ones with more varied sexual tastes in real life! WOMEN ARE BASICALLY ONLY ATTRACTED TO MEN WITH A GENETIC CONVENIENCE TO POWER AND AUTHORITY; Women are only sexually attracted to guys that look like they can beat up other men. Women are the lookists of our species, not men. Stop coping.

Btw: Women don't care for behavioral traits nearly as much as the physical ones; women literally appreciate a man's behavioral traits through his physical composition primarily.

If women just care about looks and genetic desirability then why not look at pictures instead of reading like most women do?

They do both.

One overwhelming more so than the other.

Tell that to my friends who watch Kpop shows all day and swoon over boys in magazines. Just because reading takes more time doesn't mean women read more than they look at photos.

I get your point that it takes more than looks for a woman to commit, but lookism and hypergamy are indeed true. Women usually don't date or marry down. Maybe they will lower their standards as the relationship goes, but the guys here are talking about dating culture where appearance is what get you in the door in the first place. They may seem bitter and pathetic, but they have a point.

I know looks help, but have you ever heard of making a good first impression?

There is such a thing as a sexy personality, I know because I've been told so many times that I have one and I'm not even remotely physically attractive. What you say and how you behave also influences people's opinion of you, because in relationships men are active and women are passive, men have to be appealing through action rather than inaction, and the more active a role you play the bigger impact your biases and decision-making (your personality) has on the outcome compared to the more passive party in the interaction.

look at the variation in the different male leads

Are you sure about that

In personality, you shallow mongrel.

Lmfao! That's fucking rich

Have you ever even read a single romance novel before? Because I have. I'm not just staring at the covers like you are.

There isn't a single romance novel or erotic internet story featuring a short fat balding guy with lumpy facial features. The guys are always described in detail, creating an image in the womans mind. And they are always tall, always fit, always with pleasing features. Just because women get off from reading words doesn't make them deeper or less visual. Their sexual proclivities are in fact quite simplistic and predictable

Then why not just look at pictures or videos like men do?

Like the box office smash fifty shades?

Did you know that the book it's based on sold better than the movie did?

Why is that relevant. At this point you are merely throwing out points for no reason

The book did better than the movie did. As in, women were lured in when using words more so than with images.

Listen buddy, you can slice it however you like but at the end of the day women always end up finding behaviors, actions, and words more appealing than just looks for looks' sake.

Until you find popular erotic literature for women that either doesn't use words to describe the mans appearance or uses words to describe an ugly man, my point stands. In female sexual fantasy, male appearance matters over all other factors.

Sure, it describes what he looks like and he looks attractive, you want porn where the stars aren't attractive? But I've read a few romance novels and they're mostly describing actions and behaviors. And even when describing what he looks like, its always in the context of him doing something actively.

Continue this thread

Do you fantasize about fat women with thinning hair?

Irrelevant, since I was responding to someone claiming womens sexual attraction wasn't measured visually like men. It's already understood that mens sexual attraction is visual. Theres nothing to contend

Is that a no?

No one is claiming physical attraction has nothing to do with sexual attraction for women. I'm trying to point out to you that you are getting angry at women for something that we all do. Erotic novels do not represent reality. They are just fantasies. You probably fantasize about being with someone really attractive to you, so how does it not make sense that women do the same?

I understand that it sucks that you don't see yourself represented in these lady fantasies, but these books are also churned out to sell (how they do, I don't know)--they're formulaic and the characters are story-lines are pretty cookie cutter. If there is no diversity to choose from, women can't really read about guys other than archetypal Chads. I definitely would like to see more diversity in porn and erotica. For everyone.

I'm not angry or opposed to womens preferences in any way. It is what it is. The only reason I commented was to counter the claim that women weren't visual like men. They are, to an extreme degree. To the degree that a mans actions and behavior become arousing or creepy depending solely on his appearance. I ascribe no value judgment or emotion to that fact. I only get pissed when people deny it to save face

I getcha.

I know it probably doesn't feel like it, but I really don't think women are out to get incels. I've seen women get creeped out by all kinds of dudes--Chads too. I think it has more to do with unwanted attention/advances than appearance, but there are definitely some shallow people out there who are rude to those they view as beneath them.

Post studies

I never said attractiveness wasn't a factor. And I you don't need a study to prove that to me, if you actually read my comment before replying to it.

You're implying men are visual creatures while women are not. I proved you wrong.

"While there are some common traits, like needing to be fixed in some way, being attractive, forceful, and strong-willed, the other elements can vary wildly."

Why would someone reply to a comment without even reading it?

I think you're assuming women use the masculine mate evaluation method (mostly looks), which is quite an adorably masculine sort of mistake to make.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19558447

!I never said attractiveness wasn't a factor. And you don't need a study to prove that to me, if you actually read my comment before replying to it you'll know that I've acknowledged this.!<

I think you're assuming women use the masculine mate evaluation method (mostly looks), which is quite an adorably masculine sort of mistake to make.

I don't think you can use results from speed dating as something that simulates reality.

First of all, theres the kind of person who would be interested in something like this, and I would wager that sort of person would already be confident in their desirability but too socially awkward to attract someone under normal circumstances or are really picky and want to sample as many people as they can possibly manage, but also shallow enough to assume they can decide wether or not they are willing to get into a relationship with with a complete stranger based on a single brief superficial conversation. And I would wager that most of them went into it with a short-term relationship in mind anyway. So from the outset, you have a biased sample.

Second problem with this study is that it actually took people's word for it, as in it assumed people knew why they liked someone or that they knew wether or not they liked someone. Now I know you've heard about the halo effect, and that good looks will cause people to attribute positive personal qualities, but there's no reason to believe the opposite can't be true. People's motivations for even the simplest actions are not isolated from the unity, they are a product of an overwhelming number of converging factors, some competely out their control, and most hidden behind the curtain of their subconscious. I think most people aren't introspective enough or understand themselves well enough to actually tell you why they like some people and not others, and its not like I'm saying I'm much better either.

I don't think you can use results from speed dating as something that simulates reality.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0092-x

For short term relationships, only physical appearance is a predictor of attraction. For long term partnerships, personality plays a role, assuming you meet the minimum of physical attractiveness.

This dynamic is identical for both men and women. Pretending women are above men and are not physically oriented in the way men are is WRONG.

Its not as wrong as women are attracted to status, which is undeniably influenced by personal qualities. And we can go a step further than this and say that there would have been selection pressures on females to identify and enter into a commited relationship early with a potentially successful male (potential that is undeniably an elemeny of what you would call a personality) before that potential can be realized and he would be out of her reach.

I mean you only have to think about this for 5 minutes. What do women select for? Status or potential. What do men select for? Youthfulness (attractiveness). Because women's fertility declines much more rapidly as they age compared to men, and men typically increase in status in the same amount of time. It doesn't take much of a genius to figure out the fact that there would be more selection pressures for men to be more interested in appearance than women.

actually using betabux as proof that women don't care about physical appearance in the way men do

hooo man

Here's what women actually select for:

In short, most women prefer monogamous marriages to wealthy, socially dominant, and physically attracttive men, and want these men to be devoted to them and their children. For most women, this preference is not achieved. Some women attempt to achieve a compromise of sorts through relationships with several men. The implicit goal appears to be to get the best material investment from one man and the best genetic investment from another (Bellis & Baker, 1990; Gangestad et al., 2002).

http://web.simmons.edu/~turnerg/MCC/Matechoice2PDF.pdf

And I don't think you really did much to address my point here, you kind of supported it.

What you've said is that women select for "personality" aka someone who would make a good father. Men do the exact same thing.

Both sexes also select for physical appearance.

Women are not less visual than men. Women are willing to trade their desire for physical appearance for ability to acquire resources, in the same way men are willing to trade physical appearance for loyalty.

The problem is that in the western world, women don't need men for resources, so they only select for Chad.

but there's no reason to believe the opposite can't be true

The study finds no such effect.

We don't like any of you because you call us roasties and are a little bitch who can't even talk to us but will talk shit about us online, like a little pathetic virgin bitch. Btw, I've had several guys and I don't have what you call 'roasties', so nice bad womens anatomy.

Lmao, soiled your nappy crying? You done now?

KEK

Yet somehow I still get sex and am happy overall. Hmm what am I doing wrong?! Please tell me, you'll know how to fix this right?

be happy with your roast pussy then idc

Yet somehow I still get sex and am happy overall.

Yeah, its called being a woman, literally all you have to do is exist, and men will come to you. Sex is literally 1 right swipe away for almost all women

It’s hilarious that they’re so unaware that they think wanting to be fucked is an accomplishment.

You are absolutely delusional.

You’re retarded. Now I see why people joke about this subreddit and call it a shithole.

Nice reasoning you gave. Oh wait you have no reason except that your feelings are hurt by facts. Dipshit.

Yep, facts. Keep sadly wallowing in your delusion, you pitiful cunt. I’m not going to be bothered to argue with retards.

It's called being a human, learn it chump. You think feeling sorry for your pathetic self is going to help you any? Lol, you make me laugh. I'm a boney, pale, awkward, anxiety ridden loser of a man and I still get laid. Shut the fuck up with your pity part bullshit. Apply yourself and try. You've already given up, all of you fucks are quitters. YOU ARE ALL QUITTERS!!!! You'd might as well buy a fucking rope if you catch my drift.

Getting sex as a woman is literally the easiest thing in the world to do. The fact that you treat it like an accomplishment and a point of pride speaks volumes about you as a person.

That’s like me bragging about not shitting my pants on my way to work.

Kek, I like the analogy

And am happy overall

Who are you trying to convince of that?

Idk what your deleted post said, but I'm sure it was on point. Don't worry about these fucking losers, it's best not to pay them any attention. Maybe if these selfish fuckfaces learned a little compasion, empathy, patience, and a little hard work then they'd get laid. But for now they can get fucked lol. Hmm, maybe they need to learn to love themselves or something. Idk, its best not to tey and argue with these subhumans.

Why would you think they know anything about women's anatomy? And why would they, for that matter

Roastie is a meme, low IQ comment.

Needed an update: what's a roastie and why?

Tall, dark and handsome is not a meme. It's the truth.

What do they mean by dark? These guys are fair skinned.

dair hair and eyes

they prefer blue eyes but dark hair

green eyes win

eh...only cos they're rare. they don't look that good imo

Tfw green eyes PepeHands

I unironically get told that my eye color is beautiful, even by some women around my age.

They’re green.

I know for a fact that I would be uglier than I already am with brown eyes. IMHO “just don’t have brown” is the theory to go for most phenotypes. Some phenotypes can rock brown eyes though (like for instance, lachowski).

Eye colour gets halo'd by facial harmony. Same as hair.

lol@cope. when you've actually got grass green eyes its all people mention to you

Yeah but people very rarely have eyes THAT green, most people who screech about having green eyes just have this dull colour

Black hair and blue eyes is the best combo, and it's better than black hair and green eyes. The contrast is what makes it so good. This is one of the reasons why Prince Eric is one of, if not the most handsome Disney princes.

Green eyes with any other hair colour is better though. Green eyes can easily be mistaken for brown eyes, that's why it isn't that great with black hair.

Eye colour and hair are halo'd by FACE

Obviously, but certain features stand our more and are more attractive. Giving a more powerful halo effect.

Prince Aladin

Eye color is cope, especially if you're white. Colored eyes only make you more attractive if you're a minority (e.g. Jeremy Meeks.)

eye colour is cope cause the shape matters rly not colour

This. It's all about hunter eyes in the end.

Thick/long eyelashes and hunter eyes makes them "dark".

Dark features. Eyebrows, hair, facial hair.

Dark hair, tannish skin. Arnold Schwarzenegger for example.

It's a saying among white people. They're talking about white guys with darker features like Pierce Brosnan or Colin Farrell.

no dark = mysterious personality

Yep. I live in a almost 100% white country and it’s a saying here. Light features means blues eyes/blonde hair here.

Italian/Greek/Spanish. Like a Latin Lover

No. It is not literal, more metaphorical.. Dark = mysterious.

Sun tanned white skin, dark hair and eyebrows.

dark means , mysterious personality . not the skin lol .

They mean Indian.

If you‘re dark and handsame you can also be average height or a little below average height

Tall and dark..... hey I'm dravidian !

Media = eugenics

Women don't have the brains nor hearts to develop sincere unique preferences. They only want what other women appear to want. They only want what they think will make themselves look good. Men are not human beings to women, men are objects to women. This is why women's hypergamy exists in the first place, because of how they truly value men....as objects, not people.

Enough Women Are Like That

Why single women out? This affects women and men alike. You clearly saw this picture and noticed these guys were attractive. Why? Becuase of european standards of beauty dominating the media and outlets. Don't assume its simply an issue affecting women, because it causes all of you to feel like shit inside as well.

Dude, it's not the issue for women though

Those guys are European because we live in a European dominated society, obviously. What we have a problem with is women getting to chase a small minority of guys while we have to pay for all their welfare and casual sex.

This affects women and men alike.

There are no women who end up completely disqualified from the market.

Im talking about how the media warps peoples views of beauty.

Yep, my point stands. Stop being a disgusting sexist.

Okay cool, whenever you can, send me your data that clearly shows that no women are ever left without a partner. Im sure you spent years collecting and analysing the data to be able to make such bold statements.

Please, go outside or something to get some real perspective on things, rather than the false claims that are thrown around here. I assure you women have it just as hard as guys do in the dating scene. That is why the lonely women with 9 cats trope exists.

No. You show me incel women if you want to make this a debate. I'm not going to entertain your bullshit here, retard.

lol oh they exist. they just dont hang around this bitching and moaning about it.

I don't think they do. If you want to convince me or anyone else that they do, show us.

Bull shit.

Actually, studies show that men's preferences are less varied than women's.

Men have preferences

Women have requirements

http://i.imgur.com/2MstAzl.gif

No. Men's rating of female attractiveness would seem to be distributed how one would expect. Most women are rated average with very few being extremely attractive or unattractive.

No, they don't.

Literally your entire comment is valuing women as objects not people. Dafuq

I have more brains than you. I bet you typed this out and then wondered why no woman is into you. You're such a nice guy

Fuck off you dumb cunt. Women don't care about personalities. They only care about looks and money. Chad can beat the shit out of a woman and she'll still want to fuck him because he's Chad.

Lol my bf and I are both servers for restaurants. Neither of us have money. Please don't tell me you call women 'dumb cunts' and then wonder why you can't get one.

How about you just shut the fuck up and cut your dick off since no woman is ever going to want it. You sit here and call women slurs and then mistake the psychology around why anyone would stay with an abusive partner and then you think 'stupid women, why won't anyone have sex with me?'

But it's because you're ugly on the inside not the outside. You literally just proved it to me with one comment.

Once again, it's because of how I look. Chad can call a woman a dumb cunt and spit in her face if he wants to. Women are inferior, that's why so many end up with abusive partners. And anyway, prostitution if legal in my country so it doesn't bother me. It's actually a lot cheaper than having a roastie ("real" girlfriend) leeching off you.

Chad can call a woman a dumb cunt and spit in her face if he wants to

This has to be the most idiotic argument I have ever seen. No bro it doesn't work like that. Why do dumb people assume because a guy looks attractive that he is automatically an abusive asshole? Ever consider that maybe "Chad" is also a really nice guy? Plenty of ugly dudes out there who are abusive assholes.

it's because of how I look

It isn't just how you look on the outside, women can sense how you are on the inside, and it's easily deduced you're one of those incel losers and a misogynist to boot. I mean let's call a spade a spade. Incel is just another word for pathetic loser and if the shoe fits then you should wear it.

I'm at best a 5-6, women don't notice me when I enter a room.. They didn't when I was a kid/young adult and they sure as shit don't now. I may as well be invisible.

I used to get rejected all the time too and it sucked watching my crush always end up with my best friend who somehow always got the pretty girls.

That was until I developed this little thing I like to call "Self Confidence". Once I started believing in myself and stopped being such a sniveling little pussy, the girls picked up on that and I ended up having my fair share of women until I settled down and married a beautiful woman who i've been with for 14 years now.

My friend who always got the hot perfect 10 girls as a kid? He married a woman that ranks nowhere near those girls and had a few kids with her to boot. He's happy and they're happy together. I guess he wasn't as shallow as I always thought. He was just a beautiful guy inside and out.

If you can't get girls you have only yourself to blame. Girls are attracted to confidence. There are shallow women out there of course who value looks and money over personality but there are so many more who value personality. You should work on yours. I bet you only go after hot girls too. Aiming above your pay grade so to speak? Ironic don't you think?

At first I thought it may be some scathing sarcasm coming out of you because i try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but I sense that you meant every word of what you said and it's sad.

In any case good luck with your prostitutes. Fuck enough of them and you wont need to chop off your dick. It'll fall off on its own.

just b confident bro

im a great example bro

"14 years" come on lol any prostitute he fucks is a lot mote valuable than your wife's dusty cunt. I can never understand why men settle down when they really don't need to. It's women who are on the biological clock.

Why do dumb people assume because a guy looks attractive that he is automatically an abusive asshole?

Personal experience, if you choose to call others dumb because they use their own bias, then your anecdotes are also dumb and irrelevant.

Ever consider that maybe "Chad" is also a really nice guy?

If you love Chad so much why don't you ask him for a protein and zinc enema, you faggot.

You are getting quite triggered here.

Perhaps you should avoid going out of your way to spend time in places full of people with opinions you find so deeply upsetting.

Most women don't have the brains nor hearts to develop sincere, unique preferences.

Woman is offended

Woman is blamed for being offended

Woman chooses to come to place known for expressing views that are often offensive to women.

Left that critical detail out friend.

Women chooses to come to place known for expressing views that are offensive to women

with opinions you find so deeply upsetting.

You are getting quite triggered here

All your sentences are structured to distance reader from the fact that your words and ideas are inherently upsetting. Your choice of words carefully puts the onus on the reader for being upset to avoid the fact that the ideas themselves are bad.

If an incel posts in r/braincels and there is no reasonable person to read it, is it a shit idea?

Yes. Yes it is.

All of those quotes are from comments whose sole purpose was to address the bizarre phenomenon of people such as yourself going out of your way to seek out content online that you know to be upsetting for the sole purpose of becoming upset.

Had the intent of any of those comments been to debate the merits of the ideas being referenced then you might have a point.

But it wasn’t.

So you don’t.

But hey, nothing helps to dull the sting of a bland and mediocre life like a bit of self-righteous indignation right?

All you are going to accomplish here is putting yourself in a bad mood by reading the replies you will get. These people are too far gone. They can't be helped and if your intention is to hurt them than you can't possibly do more damage than they have already done to themselves and each other.

It's pretty fucking crazy in here though. Wow.

How about you just shut the fuck up and cut your dick off since no woman is ever going to want it.

We already had a dick mutilation in original sub, so in order to prevent that from happening, i'm gonna have to report you, next time don't go to subs you find upsettting ok? bye

and the dudes on here care about personalities so much. that's why they bitch over the "high quality" women who dont want them cause they only care about looks.

That's the thing though, incels have no intention of being a nice guy. We aren't nice guys, if you want to look for nice guys look in inceltears.

hey only want what other women appear to want.

what other women want is fashion

fashion is looks

looks is women

Precisely.

YES. This needs to be it's own post.

EWALT.

Chad, Tad, Brad and Vlad

If you aren't white 8+ Chad, then it's over for you

So if you're a minority its automatically over for you? Give me a break lol

It is for the vast majority I knew grewing up. Most never lost their v-card until their mid-20s and often then to a prostitute.

I guess you should have specified that you meant in the US. Because I promise you that most countries arent like that

Yeah it pretty much is. Idiot parents thought they could get a better life in the West when all they were doing was condemning their bloodline especially the Y-haplogroup to extinction.

I married a “minority”

False. Lots of ugly losers with no redeeming qualities do date.

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where do all these ugly losers without status or money live?

They rope

Narnia, Middle Earth, maybe. Or maybe wherever unicorns and leprechauns are hiding out.

Hell

Everywhere considering 80% of men are unattractive to women.

Literally everywhere!

stop pretending to care? just go back to swiping right to chads

Umm, I don't think they like that here..

Ugly losers do date... I bet her idea of an ugly loser is fucking Emile Hirsch

Every one of those 12 upvoters is a poor sod guy hoping against all hope that women will like ugly guys.

Lol, if you're a tall attractive black, Hispanic, or middle eastern guy you can easily compete with Chad in any western metro area. Only indians and east Asians get shafted in the west.

Compete is a strong word. Chad still has the maximum value. And also roasties sometimes say they’re “not into” a certain race, and it’s never white.

That's because white is the standard, even in countries that don't even have many white people.

literally

50% of the guys you see in East Toronto area are brown (south asian) and let me tell you, they’re sexy. East asian guys? They’re the new trend, especially for young girls in high school or college. You have to be attractive, your race doesn’t matter. Let’s not pretend south and east asians are all incels, get a grip.

How do you define attractive?

Physically? Good facial structure and a healthy body will do the trick. It’s universal. But, of course, some people like thinner, fatter, bigger noses, smaller eyes, etc. So it’s all personal preference.

Personality wise it’s anyone who understands social cues and is able to hold a conversation. Otherwise they’re a quick fuck, which is fine too.

When I refer to the “sexy” asian guys in Toronto, I basically mean men who catch the attention of (many) women/men. And I’ll let you know women aren’t only turning heads for white guys, so if you aren’t white, don’t be insecure about your race. Those who discriminate against your race aren’t people you want to catch the attention of anyways.

If you're interesting, conversational, bold, funny, educated, and ambitious (translation: have a personality) then you'll have a very stud-like personality and that can compensate for being less attractive. Words and actions DO turn women on, fellas. Women aren't just visual creatures, they're also psychological creatures.

not in this day and age.

Every single girl I've ever been with told me my personality was sexy. Women I know, who I have never been with or even dated before have told me my personality was sexy. I'm not a good looking guy by any stretch of the imagination, nor am I tall, nor am I wealthy. But when I'm getting intimate with a girl, usually the things that turn her on the most are the things I say.

In a female's head personality = looks

I have made it clear in my comment that I'm ugly. Please read before replying.

Post your photo if you want to convince anyone. Srs.

While some proof would be expected, I do value my privacy and I wouldn't want anyone I know to find out I am in any way associated with this subreddit.

Oh that's right I forgot.

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How uninteresting

low iq

How low are we talkin' here?

I'm pretty fuckin ugly and I do alright for myself.

literally

All females are exactly the same.

They're empty vessels. They fill up with whatever you put in them and all we have filled them with since "muh feminism" is degeneracy.

Poe's law up in here.

But they all like different things guys. In relation to their SMV, of course, that is.

Women only like the same guys genetically.

okayden is getting jawmogged its over for hin

You think a sub 8 guy would make for good reality TV? The networks are going to pick the best looking guy to get women tuning in, and they will have a lineup of Staceys for him to pick from to get the men to watch. It's all about what will make them money

not sure why you are downvoted tbh it's the truth

Because it's me. Anything I post gets downvoted. I'm not bothered. I'm not here for the karma.

Well you should stop stubbornly trying to change the minds of the lost people of this sub. "A" for effort and intent but I don't have as much hope as you do.

The thing is- I'm old, so I can see things a bit clearer having been there. OK, things may have changed, but in the end, people do tend to mature and decide to find a life partner.

I am optimistic that the guys here will find that, and in the meantime if I can debunk their really off-the-wall theories about women, then all the better.

God speed, Geezer.

You too

Ruff

but in the end, people do tend to mature and decide to find a life partner.

Not sure if you're referring to incels or women with that so I'll address both. Incels can't just decide to find a life partner otherwise the term wouldn't exist. Regarding women, we literally know and have a term for that too,"beta bux". So you're not actually saying anything new here.

Which term? "Inceldom" isn't a whole of life sentence. It's a mere anomaly and usually has passed by the first quarter century, although it can linger.

"Beta bux" is a tenet of the faith of the toxic pill, there to make you question your worth as a person, and to deny that any woman can find you attractive. It's designed to keep you subservient to the mindset that the bullies who dreamed up the toxic pill want you to be in. The toxic pill never wants you to be happy. It never wants you to feel secure. It does not want you to be able to view yourself as anyone's equal. So someone finally notices you and sees you as a nice guy? It doesn't matter how many times they tell you they love you, or how much love they lavish on you, or how many times they prove their devotion to you, you will always see it as false, worthless and hollow, thus keeping you from ever being happy.

Your pills are toxic.

"Inceldom" isn't a whole of life sentence.

Most of the time it isn't but for some people it is. Either way getting out of inceldom later on in life won't make up for missing out in your prime years. It will always leave a bitter taste.

It's a mere anomaly and usually has passed by the first quarter century, although it can linger.

Except for those that it hasn't passed eg r/FA30Plus

As for the rest, nah "beta bux" is there to protect oneself from being taken advantage of. Better to be incel/volcel than an atm/emotional tampon/time ho for some woman who wouldn't look twice at you when she was younger.

For the few, yes, it will be, but it shouldn't stop them trying.

The thing is- you're missing out on your prime years if you're moping about trying to get a girlfriend instead of getting out and enjoying life. Go clubbing. Go to the cinema. Find friends that you can hang out with, or go out for meals with. Stop sitting in the dark on your own, swiping at twitter like a demented obsessive.

And yet "beta" will stop men from getting relationships, because they have been brainwashed into thinking that's all women want them for.

but it shouldn't stop them trying.

Why not? Some might think the effort needed just isn't worth it after a certain point/age.

you're missing out on your prime years if you're moping about trying to get a girlfriend

I agree moping about not having a girlfriend is stupid but missing out on sex and validation while your sex drive is at its peak while everyone else enjoys it fucks with your head.

Go clubbing. Go to the cinema. Find friends that you can hang out with, or go out for meals with.

Did all that from my late teens to mid 20's. Gets boring eventually.

And yet "beta" will stop men from getting relationships, because they have been brainwashed into thinking that's all women want them for.

You call it brainwashing, we call it awareness of female mating strategy. What are we supposed to think when a woman eventually wants to settle down with the safe, mature guy who she wouldn't even look at 10-15 years prior? Should we feel honored that she chose us?

Have you considered that people's tastes change over time? Plus they tend to mature as well.

Their tastes "change" when they realize they're on the decline and can't obtain what they were previously able to. I guess that's a sign of maturing but that still doesn't do anything for the guy who ends up having to invest time/energy/emotions/money after countless others got commitment free sex while she was in her "just having fun" phase.

Or their tastes change because they want someone sensible and long term, not some playboy who has the attention span of a gnat when it comes to women and relationships.

It's like when you are a kid you play at being a lot of things, but as you get older, you find a career path that is probably miles away from your childhood dreams of being an astronaut.

Anything you post gets downvoted? Wow, there’s almost a pattern there. Who knows... maybe there’s a reason?

Yeah. I'm a woman. I also tell inconvenient truths. It's like the guys here get downvoted if they post anything on IT, then come back here to crow about how they got downvoted for telling the truth. Except I don't crow about it anywhere, because I'm not actually that bothered.

Wasn't there one show years back where they took a bunch of virgin incels and put them in a home with a bunch of model stacies?

I've no idea. I don't watch reality TV personally.

Sounds like it would be a hit though. I'm sure there's a few guys in here that would love to be on it.

Average joe.

b-b-but women told me that they liked all types of guys!

Only if they have good personaliteees tee hee

This is a "reality" TV show. You know, where they pick ridiculously good looking men and women and place them in entirely unrealistic situations? Come on now... It's entertainment TV. It's not meant to be a representation of the average American experience. Mind you, they're all rich too. ffs

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eeeeehhh... I'd argue though that they pick that because that's what sells. If they want people (mostly women) to watch the bachelor, they have to put a hot guy on there for them all to drool over.

it's the same thing with romcoms, that's not real either but it's always a hot guy that makes women want to watch.

Of course they’re picking hot guys. The problem is that a hot guy is so fucking cookie cutter.

Okayden cracked me up.

Women are less diverse in all facets of life.

literally every facet, except what brands of makeup they like since we dont like any

lol

The second guy is a good example of how negative canthal tilt really can screw up an otherwise chad level face. He looks weak and dorky because of it

Women prefer hot guys. Men prefer hot women. Yeah? no shit?

What do you mean by hot? Because men have a vast amount of preferences, whereas women do not. Women rate over 70% of guys as unattractive. Women don't have preferences they have requirements. That's why nearly all of the men they find attractive, look very similar, as if they came from a factory or something.

Hot = White European facial features

K got it

Look at porn variety alone. The fact that there is a BBW section on every porn site speaks volumes about men.

And they all get railed by tall jacked guys lol.

Most porn is made for men, so yeah.

Also, there are a lot of fugly guys all over porn. Give Ron Jeremy a google.

Has there ever been an ethnic bachelor?

There have been Hispanic ones but they were castizo

wow... I had to Google it, honestly, because I've never been into the show but I was pretty sure there had at LEAST been a black bachelor... nope. ALL white guys. all of them. even the ones with foreign or hispanic names were light skinned. It's the whitest lineup I've ever seen..

Western beauty standards

I was answering his question but he deleted the comment. Yea, literally all tall white guys, with about 1 or 2 exceptions to the height.

The bachelorette had its first black woman recently if I remember properly.

ahhh... maybe that's what I was remembering. I thought I recalled a lot of media attention to the "first black bachelor" but it must have been the bachelorette.

Yea, it was the bachelorette. There's never been anyone other than white men on the bachelor, and very few times they were like 5'10 and 5'11.

And given how poorly rated that season was I doubt they will be doing it again. It's America that's racist (or at least the portion of America that was still watching the 58th season of The Bachelor).

It's America that's racist (or at least the portion of America that was still watching the 58th season of The Bachelor).

It is also uglyphobic, and shortphobic.

This hadn't been on the top of my mind but now that you mention it I agree. Thanks for the reply.

Damn, I can imagine. I only watched one season of the bachelor and one of the bachelorette, but I saw the guys from OP's pic.

" I don't care about race or sex. Actors should be picked based on who's best for the role "

White genocide niw

Or, you know, being a TV show with a target audience, it caters to that target audience by casting white dudes who fit a very specific aesthetic mold to appeal to the white women who care a about looks. Question incels: If the kind of women interested in these kinds of dudes are all dumb and vapid, why do you want them anyway?

Nah bro, TV/Film is for attractive leads/stars. Why would anyone have a bachelor/bachelorette filled with unattractive people? That makes no sense to me at all

The once was a show called "King of the Nerds" that was a bunch of less than conventionally attractive folks on TV. There was another called "The Beauty and the Geek" where they would pair up stereotypical hot, ditsy girls with nerdy guys. I remember one season of the show specifically leading to a real relationship after it ended.

All I'm saying is this show have an obvious target audience in mind, and is catering directly to it. Criticizing it for that is like complaining that Ferrari's typically come in red.

In beauty and the geek, they literally turn ugly incel nerds into High tier normies/chadlites by the end of the show tho

Yeah. They give them makeovers. To show them it's completely possible to achieve an ideal they've been chasing. What a terrible thing.

Because unlike women, we don't like about the fact that it's all about looks.

Your problem is, you apply that criteria to all women. If the women you're chasing only care about looks, and that bothers you, then stop chasing those kinds of women.

All women only care about looks. All men only care about looks.

Sexual attraction is looks.

Not entirely. A good portion of it is, yeah, but if you manage to sleep with someone who is, in your eyes, built like a Grecian god but also fucks like a dead fish, chances are you won't be back for seconds.

If you don't have the looks, you won't fuck her in the first place.

If you don't have the looks she wants. Incels think physical attractiveness can be measured objectively, by these very narrow and well defined metrics. It doesn't work that way. It never did.

she wants hunter eyes and a big chin

Just because it can't be measured "objectively" doesn't mean there aren't pretty damn clear assessments.

You can't objectively say that fecal matter tastes better than water, but I think it's pretty obvious which one nearly everyone would choose.

You could, you'd just have to go pretty far.

target audience lol aka all women who want chad perhaps

Yeah. All women who want whatever you define "Chad" as. Not LITERALLY ALL WOMEN. Thanks for proving my point.

What’s wrong with that though? The bachelorette is all attractive women too. That’s the whole point of TV/film

this guy gets it

All 4 of them are weird looking lol

They all look like they have cotton in their mouth

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Eh honestly, I don't find a single one of these men attractive. And yes, I did think that before I knew it was braincels. Honestly they're cookie cutter as fuck and look like they would start off most sentences like "so when I was at the gym the other day"... boooorrrringgg

boooorrrringgg

LMAO. Massive coping mechanism cuz they wouldn't even acknowledge your existence. Roastie getting toastie eh

Haha nope just from experience.

So when some women say that they have different tastes and that conventionally attractive men doesn't interest them, they still get shit about it. We just can't win, I guess.

Whats wrong with the gym?

This is pretty hilarious. Reminds me off all the Chris's that all look the same. Hemsworth, Evans, Pine, etc..

of course you say that now but in real life you would be head of heels

It's even over for these men

Seems pretty racist and shallow of you

How old are they? They look at least 30. If they aren't that old, then they're low-tier Chadlites.

Late 20's and early to mid 30s, i assume

Welp looks like I'm still not gay but that second dude definitely is.

It's over for blondcels

They are all douchebags.

Thats my homie chad johnson on the far left

So I saw the season of The Bachelorette which these guys were all on. The guy on the left is actually named Chad. He was set up as the "bad boy" of the bunch. Though she ended up picking the second one from the left, because he played pro football.

This sub is so cringe I think my face is permanently stuck like this now

It's over for guy on the right. His chin is less than 1 foot high.

Lost my shit at Okayden.

they would put a black guy but that would pss off a lot of people

Rest in peace tyrone

Damn, that explains everything. I'm not average I'm about 2 standard deviations above average.

Have you guys all been introduced to Patrice O'Neal? I think his teachings about women could help some of you. You would find his philosophies familiar and enlightening at the same time. Totally serious. I realize what you all want most is for people like me to fuck off but give him a chance.

Damn guys, it was just a suggestion for some entertainment. Patrice was a good comedian who had a deal philosophy about women that most of you would agree with. You won't find a more blackpill famous person.

They all look bland af to me.

But none of them have dark hair? All of them have light brown hair...

Light brown or blonde hair looks more attractive on White men anyway. My boyfriend is tall, blonde with green eyes and the most handsome man I've ever dated.

Guys like Ian Somerhalder have dark-hair, though, and he is really hot, too. Oh well.

The second one looks dorky due to his NCT

Out of all the offensive threads on this sub, women get the most triggered by this one, which isn’t really offensive or misogynist at all. Hmmm I wonder why. Maybe they know it’s the truth that they only like one type of guy and it exposes the simple, terrifying truth of it all.

the dude on the right may as well have been destined to inceldom if he had the mindset you all did, average face at best

NCT

Every blonde woman on the show looks identical too. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSfYQCwWAAA-f_y.jpg

Did you just realize the media is racist and only hires fit, attractive people? Especially a competitive reality show about speed dating?

fit, attractive people

No, they only hire fit, attractive WHTE people. No handsome Chad ethnics to be found. Keep in mind, a lot of regular users on this sub are ethnic minorities.

Btw, you guys should watch Jojo's season. The first guy who's name is literally Chad will mog you out of existence through the screen. Spends the whole season bullying the incel.

Isn't Chad on the left a bb.com misc user? Thats where elliot posted lol.

Definitely. He made a bunch of references to BB stuff. He was great

This just in: handsomeness is a thing women like. You fucking losers.

Same goes for men yikes

They're actually ugly wtf. American male beauty standards are wild

Even the guy on the left? I'd let him suck on my scchpincta

Guy on the right looks like he has AIDS

No. You show me incel women if you want to make this a debate. I'm not going to entertain your bullshit here, retard.

Nah bro, TV/Film is for attractive leads/stars. Why would anyone have a bachelor/bachelorette filled with unattractive people? That makes no sense to me at all

I'm not like other girls teehee

All of those quotes are from comments whose sole purpose was to address the bizarre phenomenon of people such as yourself going out of your way to seek out content online that you know to be upsetting for the sole purpose of becoming upset.

Had the intent of any of those comments been to debate the merits of the ideas being referenced then you might have a point.

But it wasn’t.

So you don’t.

But hey, nothing helps to dull the sting of a bland and mediocre life like a bit of self-righteous indignation right?

Because unlike women, we don't like about the fact that it's all about looks.

Yeah cause they're only Chadlite, not Chad.

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target audience lol aka all women who want chad perhaps

Compete is a strong word. Chad still has the maximum value. And also roasties sometimes say they’re “not into” a certain race, and it’s never white.

And again, I just don't have any reason to believe you when the evidence contradicts you.

Dangerous as in i would rather hang myself than date a chad

^ is a hyperbole so....

Apparently having a "part of a brain" means not being mean to you.

Savaaaaage boiiiiii gj i walked into that

Do you not take birth control?

No im waiting till im 20 because i want my hormomes to sort their shit out before i fuck with them more

See my first statement, with consideration for the wealth of evidence I've seen, I just don't believe you. This dynamic is incredibly well documented.

Well idk what to say believe me or dont changes nothing for me.

Uh, doesn't that guarantee a dead bedroom? Dead bedroom = no sex happening.

No, i repressed being sexual for so long it kinda comes out massively now, and my 'problems' cause many weird kinks so my boyfriend fuckin loves it haha

Another very well documented fact is that marriages in which the wife only ever had sex with her husband are the most likely to succeed.

I believe marriage should be rejected, both from personal experience with family members and their marriages and from a philosophy students POV because of its connotations with the church and controlling people. But you do you good luck to you fam

And you haven't broken up with him yet? I'm confused.

Why

I like to think that a relationship becomes of true value if you stick together through such obstacles.

Ah I see.

necessarily

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Honestly cba anymore its nearly 11pm u win

Eat shit white knight

literally

You’re showing your lack of intelligence

So maybe I was just pissed at you for not considering him, and thereby me, attractive

Well thanks for being honest, but 'pretty boy's just aint my style. I only get attracted to people I know and trust.

You're implying men are visual creatures while women are not. I proved you wrong.

I’m a woman. I will never feel like I’m entitled to sex because I’m not a selfish moron.

!I never said attractiveness wasn't a factor. And you don't need a study to prove that to me, if you actually read my comment before replying to it you'll know that I've acknowledged this.!<

50% of the guys you see in East Toronto area are brown (south asian) and let me tell you, they’re sexy. East asian guys? They’re the new trend, especially for young girls in high school or college. You have to be attractive, your race doesn’t matter. Let’s not pretend south and east asians are all incels, get a grip.

Ahahahahahaha this is too good

How do you define attractive?