A girl on here once messaged me and wanted to talk to me and "become friends". Guess what happened?

118  2018-05-02 by subhumanforever

After a month of me and her talking she admitted to me I was very sweet, and she feels sorry for me (yeah right), and that "I'm glad we're able to talk". This all came to an end when she ghosted me immediately once I showed her my face. This was all during the time where she kept saying she's not a shallow person, and "I honestly don't even care how you look." "I just want to see". Humiliating. Completely humiliating that I fell for this and sent her for a photo.

This has happened so many many many many times.

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Yep. Exactly why you tell people to fuck off when they ask you for a photo.

Also, when women say things like:

"You're not that bad"

"You're decent looking"

They really mean you're ugly.

Fucking cunts.

Maybe they do mean what they say, that you're average or not as ugly as you lead them to believe?

Hello. :)

Those aren't compliments. Given how women react to Chad, those help no one. They're dishonest.

Fuck off.

Man we're entitled, expecting compliments when handing out a picture. You're sounding like a Stacey!

What the fuck are you talking about? There you all go throwing meaningless words around again.

If you knew one iota of my circumstances, you'd know that I am anything BUT entitled. No one entitled busts their ass as much as I do. Lol @ your empty platitudes.

And I don't like those "compliments" because their fake. I'd rather people be honest with me.

In my book, you're ugly or you're not, pure and simple.

Idk, I think you’d complain if someone gave you the truth, too.

Whatever.

Man trying to respond to so many insults with a reddit post timer. Like please kill me.

For real though I didn't say that with any malevolence; again it was another joke but I guess you can't always detect sarcasm/humour over the internet. I don't mean any ill-will, though you are definitely being pretty mean to me.

Personally, I would never call anyone ugly. I've been called that, probably as an adult but definitely as a child. Even your run of the mill Stacey gets called that by better looking girls and guys. I was bullied a lot as a kid and abused. I'm definitely not perfect, but I try to be nice to most people.

I even work as a nurse in psych. I work with drug addicts, disfigured, self harm scarred, people from all walks of life. Personalities ugly and not. Faces ugly and not. Incredibly sick people. Pedophiles. I want to say people who are sexually inappropriate but that doesn't happen too much. The one guy I did dislike quite a bit, I ended up finding out he had a brain injury. I had viewed him pretty negatively before that, but it goes to show you to look past what you initially see. Hell I've cared for someone who would be a murderer. I've seen a lot of shit for only being 5 years being in the field.

I've made friends with the meth addict who every once and a while would throw aggressive fits. The person inside is far more interesting than the person on the exterior. Its interesting to hear from him that he developed schizophrenia after his brother died and to hear him be coherent. Rather than see him pacing and doing odd behaviors like adding 15 bags of sugar to his breakfast cereal. Rather than seeing him have outbursts of rage over something trivial, because his wiring is all fucked up now. Those conversations I really enjoy and they give credit more to who the person was before the addiction. I'm not here to convert your beliefs though, I am just trying to demonstrate to you that I personally am not about that.

I tend to think that you guys are here to troll a bit. But if you really want to look at the world black and white and think its them versus us.... I want to say that is not always the case. You certainly face challenges that people with more fortunate genetics do not face. But some of those Staceys and Chads have their pieces too that you do not ever get to know about. Who will go through truly horrific things at some point in their life. I'm not here to come in your safe space and tell you that you aren't going through hell. But if I can offer some consolation to someone to keep rolling with the punches until they hit the jackpot, that would make me a happy person.

I am not perfect. I still might get disgusted by the odd person. But who I am really disgusted with are typically the ones that do not respect my space and are hitting on me. If you are a complete asshole and if I see you being shitty to someone. I've already written you off. If someone who wasn't attractive was talking to me and they were nice. I actually would probably be more interested in them than someone who was sort of cute. Someone who was hot as fuck would probably just give me an anxiety attack. But yeah, this is because most of them are pretty vapid and uninteresting people. They've had normal lives and like to use tinder, and be all like AYE BOIIIIIIIIIS. They're the asshole that I go out to a rave with, and they take a snapchat of me in my fucking underwear.

I would be far more happier in life if I could make more friends with out them having a crush on me, grabbing my ass and shit when we're drunk, adding sexual connotations to our conversations etc. I don't enjoy being sexualized and I like to straight up make friends.

Yeah I know I'm oversharing- I like to give context for my opinions.

Now on to the next post where someone called me a unicorn. God they know how to talk dirty to a girl.

The best compliment I got after showing my face was "you're not that ugly" LOL. To be honnest she is the only one who didnt ghost me and even thought she obviously wasn't interested she still kept talking to me occasionally so she was a pretty cool and honest girl.

They're not compliments.

You're either Chad or you're not in my book.

lmao it's over, it's happened to me 1000s of times, even recently an i posted about it. And they have the gall to tell us to keep trying/improving/that it's our personalities. Nope, all cope. Rope is the way

I'm really sorry that someone did that to you and OP. The value of someone should never be decided by looks.

God knows some of the ugliest people I have had misfortune of meeting are some of the prettiest people. Perhaps the same same could be said in your experience of meeting some pretty people out there...

I mean I know you like hate girls and all, but can I extend you like, an e-hug and a sorry? For all the shitty girls out there...

u can take a ghost hug back

but i'm a bitter husk of a human being, who long ago abandoned hope of finding love in this lifetime

Maybe you're meant for romantic love, maybe you're not. I don't mean it in a way saying that I expect you're not capable of obtaining it. I kind of think anyone is really. But I tend to encourage people to not chase things. The best things come when we aren't looking. Life seldom hands us what we want as we expect it.

I'll do you one better and ldar

i can see why you as a girl would believe things occur without having to look for them :2

regardless, you should consider reflecting on why that wouldnt be the case for ugly men.

Fuck off.

You are acting exactly the same way as the girl in OP’s post.

I'm aware that people might interpret it that way, but I am choosing to approach OP despite that.

Good night though. It was interesting talking to you guys despite you being a highly suspicious and damaged bunch.

If you really want to do good to OP then meet up with him on a date if you’re in his neighborhood. Did that cross your mind?

locationcels on suicide watch

Dont hate on the wrong people.

It’s not hate, I just pointed out that she behaved the same way as the girl in op’s post.

Pointing out human flaws isn’t hate

you're "approaching" all of us. Of all the subs, why this one?

Man, you're legit one of my favourite incels. Perceptive as fuck and always ready with a wry or witty comment.

Aww, thanks

"1000s of times", eh?

Even at once a day, for three years, that's only just over 1000. Exactly how many women do you spam with messages a day?

nowadays, i understand it's misogynistic to talk to women, so i don't do it

Ah. You've finally figured out that spamming women with 1000's of messages is socially unacceptable. That would normally be seen as a step in the right direction towards actually being a functioning human being, except you're so completely narcissistic and unaware that you actually are blaming the women for finding your spamming habits fucking obnoxious.

lol this guy is so ridiculous. when you have an app like whisper and you can use omegle, you can easily talk (and not spam) to thousands of women in the span of 5 years

also, on apps like whisper, you can make posts, and women will message you

so in addition to messaging women, and having women message you, you can easily accumulate a 1000 women that you have talked to. My skype literally has 500 women interested in my persona enough to add me, but convos that have gone nowhere because my face is too subhuman. Get out here with your low-iq

Your "social" life solely consists of trying to talk to 1000's of women on Whisper? or fucking Skype?

JFC. And you think that it's society's fault that you are a complete social cripple?

"I met my soulmate on Whisper!", said literally no one, ever.

"I met my soulmate by randomly contacting women on Skype!", said literally no one ever.

https://imgur.com/a/IopsYSd

when you shit on millions of people who online date, you're going to have to try REALLY hard to convince me you're not one of the dumbest dickheads to have ever lived

my social life also consisted of other things, but I realized very quickly I was too ugly for that...

LOL at your level of brainletism. To be this unaware that you're not in the position you are because of you're 'personality' or your intelligence but solely because of your looks...jesus, it's over

Your "dating" tactics are literally setting yourself up for guaranteed failure.

But I guess the "win" for you is that you can come on this forum, and whine about your lack of success about getting laid, and blame society for it.

One thing I've noticed about people on this forum is that they are their own worst enemies when it comes to getting laid. Suggestions like "don't use fucking Whisper to try to meet people" are lost on people like you.

roastie always ghostie

Always with the fucking ghosting. zero empathy soulless femoids

Can you pm me her name? I've had one or two do the same

Idk. I don't want her to know who I am if she's still lurking on here, which she probably does. Can you pm the name?

Yeah pm me the name also please.

typical

lmao why would waste your time like that and talk to her for a MONTH? you should already have known that would happen anyway, faggot

You're not even putting yourself out there bro. Try putting yourself out there and talk to girls more

You talked to a girl for too long hahahahaha. You're a faggot.

Wow. We cannot win.

yeah finding an online gf is a meme and the ultimate cope

Concur, e-girls are the most cancerous people of all time

There are no girls on the Internet.

He's right, though. That you talked to her for a month shows that you still harbor some hope that the Blue Pill is the True Pill. Maybe she's different, you must have told yourself.

I would have told her to fuck off the moment she PM'd me because I know that there is no hope and AWALT, and therefore I always see right through their platitudes, never once asking myself "what if this one actually likes me?"

Very true.

I'm such a subhuman lmao.

That is a really shitty thing for her to do. Sorry OP.

I'm sure you don't give a fuck. Thanks anyway.

Sorry, I sent a response twice to you I think. I'm a bit brain dead and need to go to bed. Its 330 in the morning. I think that my double-post will suffice as evidence that I do actually give a fuck.

I am not sure that it is much consolation to you, but when I run into situations like this, its best to think of it like dodging a bullet I guess. Whats the point in wasting time with someone who wasn't going to be real with you anyways, if they just fuck off after a picture?

But yeah, fuck that bitch. I'll be your friend OP.

Let me be. I've heard this before honestly. A lot of you women are fake. I'm fine.

Ooph two comments going.

I can definitely attest to not being fake. I'm not made of plastic last I checked. I am sure you've heard it before. But I have something to tell you. You're going to hear it again and you're going to hear it now!

Nah. Leave us alone. We appreciate the sympathy, but most women who browse this sub probably have questionable motives. The only female poster I trust is the redheaded British lady who's in her 40s.

it's actually gotten to the point where i trust her but only because her life objectively sucks more than mine right now

I respect her for defending us from the onslaught of slanderous attacks from IT normies. She is genuinely sympathetic to our plight and honestly doesn't deserve the vitriolic hatred that's spewed at her by some users on this sub. Some of her insights are fundamentally flawed, but she doesn't sugarcoat her commentary with the hollow and ineffective platitudes we're used to hearing from people who want top "help" us.

Maybe a dude?

....Kidding!

What questionable motives would those be? I genuinely don't understand. I just saw someone have a shitty thing done to them and wanted to express my sentiment that someone cares about them out there...

You guys could really work that pity angle you know. Softens any womans heart up.

Accumulation of orbiters and male attention, for one.

And what do you mean by "work that pity angle"? Women are repulsed by self-pitying low-status men, and I personally can't blame them for that. It's an unattractive trait in not just men but most people. You must have a savior complex/fetish.

Oh I see. No, can't say that is what I would want. Nor would I be that kind of girl, nor would I go to reddit to fulfill some whore / e-whore need.

Working the pity angle. Not self-pity, the girl pitying. Like when a guy tells a girl that hes a virgin and she just wants to deflower him kind of thing. It is more-so my attempt at a joke to lighten the mood.

I mean I do work as a nurse. I don't really have a savior complex,(maybe I do? :/) but I think that it is more so that I am an empath.

But this isn't about me anyways. Remember. Its about that whore who fucked off after he sent a pict.

pitchfork

The vast majority of women do not pity male virgins and don't have defloration fantasies. If that's your prerogative, then go for it. You could save some poor sap from inceldom, but again, it isn't normal and probably wouldn't be conducive to a healthy sexual relationship.

I actually have a friend that has a thing about nerdy/inexperienced dudes. She’s ridiculously insecure so having someone who knows less than her sexually is something she loves. She likes to be the one who knows what’s going on and to make the dude be the nervous one instead of her. I don’t know that it’s super common but it does exist!

hook us up smh

To be honest I 100% would if she wasn’t in a relationship right now. With an insecure bald guy, no less.

I can understand you're a pessimistic bunch and I'm cool with that fire away. I am an empath, I understand that there is push back. I'm not forcing anything on anyone, because they don't have to take anything from me.

Perhaps you should consider this atmosphere and outlook you have. How may they impact relationships? I genuinely mean well and yet you are highly suspicious of me, assuming the most nefarious of purposes. I never said that was my fantasy or mission, to deflower virgins, I was making a light-humored joke.

I exaggerate my pessimism online along with other traits. My main objective on this sub is to shitpost with others who find themselves in similar circumstances to my own. It's a cathartic means of venting and amuses the hell out of me.

You're absolutely not an empath. An empath wouldn't force themselves and their "advice" on people who do not want it in a space where marginalized people seek solace

I can understand you're a pessimistic bunch and I'm cool with that fire away. I am an empath, I understand that there is push back. I'm not forcing anything on anyone, because they don't have to take anything from me.

Perhaps you should consider this atmosphere and outlook you have. How may they impact relationships? I genuinely mean well and yet you are highly suspicious of me, assuming the most nefarious of purposes. I never said that was my fantasy or mission, to deflower virgins, I was making a light-humored joke.

I can definitely attest to not being fake.

I can attest to being Jeff Bezos. That doesn't make it true, though.

Okay you're right I'm plastic. Take me away officers.

Whatever you are, you're definitely a troll.

100% a troll. Literally copied and pasted a message to four incels including myself in a PM. She/he actually thought we were that stupid and couldn't see through it.

I didn't even receive a PM from this unicorn. It was over before it even began.

Just lol. I told her to leave me alone and just fuck off. So tired of this. Women are really evil.

should've shown her a pic of your face. She would have fucked off then

True, but the bitch would've probably leaked out my photos all around CuckTears.

WHATS UP. I heard my name!

I never referred to you by name. This is you btw. Icky and sinister

Man its so ironic. Like I swear I have never heard of Chad in my life. But since coming to visit this subreddit I got a patient by the name of Chad and my friend wants me to come with her to hang with a guy named chad.

Ironic???

By the way I do have feelings.... I never cut and pasted anything, I was trying to be nice to someone who had something shitty happen to them. Just like I would for anyone.

You're probably treating Chad for STDs and slid your hands down his pants to inspect his dick for bumps and warts, or at least that was the excuse you gave. This is 100% what happened. The reason why Chad was hospitalized and your position on staff don't matter. I know these things.

Actually. Now that you mention it... Chad Doe1 had... Nay, probably still has, scabies and head lice. Amongst other things...

Now, that's what you call ironic.

No pubic lice? It sounds like Chad Doe1 and Chad Doe2 were sent from the same secret society of Chads to conspire against you. Tread lightly.

Yeah man thanks for the heads-up.

No, I was trying to be nice instead of telling you to suck my metaphorical dick.

I would have to be a pretty shitty person to come and get off on people who collectively identify being ugly, mentally ill and unloved.

Next subreddit stops are: SuicideWatch

No, I was trying to be nice instead of telling you to suck my metaphorical dick.

Why not tell me to suck your physical dick?

lol @ this foid: she couldn't make just one of the four or five guys in this thread feel special, nooo she had to reply to and trouble us all.

She messaged all of you? See what I mean? Fuck these women.

Oh hay there.

=.=m

A lot of you women are fake.

better than what you men are

why are you here

Femoid. OUT.

This is why you're incel

Just wanted to send you hugs OP. Sorry for this shitty excuse for a human. Like I said to another poster, the value of a person should never be decided on looks. Some of the ugliest people I have met were the prettiest.

the value of a person should never be decided on looks.

Sorry, but this is the world. This is how it is.

The value of a person is entirely decided by their genetic quality as a potential mate, barring some exceptions for exceptionally wealthy and known celebrities.

Which are both qualities of a good mate. Resources and a powerful social network.

Which are both qualities of a good mate. Resources and a powerful social network.

Don't confuse husband with mate. Dual Female Mating Strategy says she can have her cake and eat it too. Women can get her mating from a Alpha on the side, or after she's divorce-raped Beta.

Send me a photo op

Leave me the fuck alone.

You know what I did when (someone claiming to be) a 'moid PMed me here? I took a screenshot and posted it back in the public thread.

This is what depresses me even more.

Yea, sorry about that, didn’t want to upset you even further. Truth sucks. But we’re here for each other.

Sad. She was at fault totally. But don't believe it when anyone says they don't care about looks.

I had a woman on here tell me that she cared and that she wanted to talk to me. She sent me two messages asking two different questions which I responded to and asked her questions back and then she ghosted me.

See?

I know.

I would love to see the IT ratioalization for this.

They'll blame the incel for everything.

Never trust that things are going well with a foid until your cawk ends up in one of her holes lol.

Yep been there. The thing is people want to appear as if they care but the fact is nobody actually does unless it benefits them in some way. If your ugly youre not worth anyones time.

Women are cowards by nature.

Happened to me once after a long distance relationship that we had for over half a year. We bonded so well and I could say with 100% certainty my personality was not an issue. Instantly ghosted after she saw my face.

LOL @ thinking one woman is different from the rest. You learned your lesson at least.

Let’s get her side of the story

Victim blaming per usual.

You are pretty fragile if you consider that blaming

pretty fragile

Well, no fucking shit Einstein. Aren't you a scholar? A bullied depressed mid 20s male lonely guy who has been fucked over for years and years and years by women. And he's "fragile"? WOW!

And of course none of that has anything to do with you right? You have zero responsibility for any of that, correct?

I hate just worlf victim blamers. Fuck you.

But yet you blame everyone else except yourself

My life did a 180° when my looks improved. From bullied, ostracized in all social circles and zero dsting life to completely opposite. Every change in how the world treated me happened because of a certain change in looks.

As a male you are your looks. Stop blaming people who suffer and get bullied as if, on top pf that, it wad their own fault.

kys.

Your looks improved?

from 3.5 to around 5.5

how did your face become so lean? am a fatcel with a good eye area (orb tier) but faload by 18% vody fat, I tried gymcelling but it made my muscles big but I got fatter....help me bro pleaseeeee

Fuck off heartless retard

Heartless retard… Oh the irony

About the level of """"witty"""" response i was expecting

You drones are all the same

More irony

You're a legitimate piece of shit.

Mom?!?! Is that you??

It also makes your case pretty weak if you wouldn’t even consider it.

Again, victim blaming per usual. "Wow I feel bad for this incel...but wait! Never mind, he IS incel, he is the cause for everything poorly that happens to him! Wait let's doubt him!"

Man you sure know how to throw a pity party. That last comment makes it look like you want people to feel sorry for you even more

I hate retards such as yourself. Blocked.

You sure showed me

You didn't show much either.

Of course, I’m not a little bitch who blocks people.

Post the pic

Lol, You got trolled.

If someone goes on a charade that long for a month there comes to a point where it's not just trolling. That's just absolutely pathetic and depressing.

If she was treating you that way before you revealed your face then it was your personality that did it. She was gonna ghost you anyway. Sorry. If she said she felt sorry for you your mistake might of been being too depressed/negative and opening up about that too fast (oversharing maybe?)

then it was your personality that did it

No.

I've talked to guys and that's why I'd stop talking to them. You should just show your face right off the bat to weed out the superficial people.

I've talked to guys and that's why I'd stop talking to them

Lmao. Just fuck off.

There's no guy ugly enough to make me stop talking to him. It would have to be his bad personality that made me do it.

Dude, stop lying. And look at your post history. What the actual fuck with that shit showing your ass and tits? Why the fuck do some of you have no dignity?

Idk how being nude means you have no dignity.

You're showing your fucking ass, tits, and pussy all over Reddit just to attention whore and get comments from fucking losers. Yeah that shows zero dignity.

And yes you are fucking lying.

Nope, I'm not lying and I can prove it by fucking ugly guys. Of course.

Also that behavior doesn't show no dignity. I mean this subreddit is about sex too. So anyone who engages in sexual dialog has no dignity? Lol. What a weird path of logic. Everyone wants sex and by extension love and companionship.

Just lol. I bet you're like an average looking woman who feels entitled to only good looking men. The minute you actually meet an ugly guy online, all his "good personality" goes out the window the minute you find that you have no attraction to him whatsoever.

As I said before, stop lying.

Just show yourself first, then women who are like that can reject you. As a woman who's never seen you I can tell I wouldn't like you no matter what you look like.

I am never showing my face, and sureeeee. If I was hot you'd want to fuck me just like any other girl would. Girls don't give a shit about personality when it comes to wanting fuck. "God, you're so bad *giggles".

I’m sorry you’ve been rejected so harshly, I’m not defending these women, but don’t you want to be with a woman you’re attracted to, too? Human attraction levels sucks but they’re not doing it to purposely attack you. Don’t take it so personal. Girls DO give a shit about personality, trust me, but unfortunately they need to be physically attracted to us, too.

I’m not defending these women, but don’t you want to be with a woman you’re attracted to?

You're defending them. Way to contradict yourself.

I don't think she's necessarily lying. Read her posts. Nympho pornstars are notoriously low inhib. She has a bizarre deflorstion fetish. Second woman I've encountered on this sub in the past 12 hours like that. Female lurkers are on a fishing expedition lmao

Crazy ass bitch lmao.

It's better than nothing

What is the point of "slutshaming" a woman who has no shame in being a slut? You literally describe yourself as a succubus in your bio. It's like when condescending normies waltz in here just to rub it in our noses that we're virgin losers - no shit, we're well aware. It's not an effective line of argument. I skimmed through your post history (for obvious reasons), too. You have posted listings for virgin men to appear in your videos. Female pornstars who plaster their tits and ass all over their social media profiles don't have to lie about their sexual tastes.

Virgin's aren't losers.

I know, but it's a perception heavily reinforced by society. It's hard to not internalize that and base a decently sized chunk of your self-worth as man on your sexual prowess. What do you think can be done to change this and constructively raise awareness of men's sex issues? I don't believe the commonly accepted culprit "toxic masculinity" is entirely at fault here. Rather, it's biological impulses that influence male and female dating strategies.

That's a good question I don't think I have all the answers.

If a person keeps asking themselves ''what if I was this person?" in a very literal way what if they were born as that person with the same set of circumstances.

If everyone started to do this as much as possible then you'd see the crappiness of people go down a great deal. Because people are using empathy more.

However a lot of people don't think about how that question and idea breaks down in paradoxical & philosophical ways that terrify people.

Because it terrifies people, they uphold those toxic ideas about what the definition of strength is. Therefore socially people think strength is being an asshole instead of being kind. I think that might be the basic ideas behind why the term 'toxic masculinity' became so popular.

However I believe anyone can be trained to have empathy even sociopaths.

Still others might have trouble exercising their empathy because of low self esteem. For example someone who identifies themselves as subhuman might have trouble interacting with other people not just because it's a automatically hostile & negative description but also because they are separating themselves from society.

Not sure if many people have the patience to listen to or even an interest in philosophy & psychology enough to know the works Carl Jung or Alan Watts but both individuals talked about such things at length. Vid related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12RH7FJPV70&t=955s

I could delve deeper into the psychology of human sexuality and the metaphysical quandaries of what it means to awaken to your sexual identity and how that fits into society if I had the time and space to do so. Maybe later. I do have presumptions, however, about how sexuality is shaped by a combination of genetics and learned childhood experience that tie into Freudian concepts of the mother and how she spurs the development of the child, but I haven't explored these topics in enough depth to draw any evidence-based conclusions, and I believe many of Freud's theories of psychoanalysis have been discredited by new research IIRC.

What I will say is this: sex IS power, power IS sex. You are indirectly talking about sex in your answers. Sex is the process through which new life is brought into this world. It drives ordinary men and woman mad with lust, envy, passion, loathing, love, and desire. Advertising artfully exploits the instinctive human desire for love and intimacy to great effect, driving profits and amassing vast stores of money, which in our materialistic society is a tangible extension of power. If you toil away at our gym every day, you will build the rippling muscles you need to attract the ladies, and you'll finally be respected as a man. Our cosmetic products will make you the prettiest, classiest woman you can be. What suave, handsome man wouldn't want you, you gorgeous angel? Our designer suits will make you handsomest, suavest man in the room. What classy, gorgeous women wouldn't want you, you handsome devil?

We are superficial animals who , perhaps more so than ever despite our unprecedented instantaneous access to virtually limitless information, but we're too conceited to admit it. Our sexual wants and needs have not evolved beyond the Stone Age. The lizard brain is very much in control, to an extent some never even consider. Cases such as the Isla Vista murders and the recent Toronto van attack come to mind. A minority of disaffected young men are taking out their frustrations on themselves and on society, and people You said people belittle us male virgins due to a lack of empathy that would terrify them if they imagined themselves in our shoes. While I agree with this, I believe it would serve incels well to contemplate the opposite end of the coin and view things from the perspective of the average woman. Resentment of women thrives on this sub because we are under the impression that life as a woman must be an unceasingly awesome existence that's devoid of serious pain and hardship. Women lives so far detached from our lonely miserable life sentences on this cruel. They are the selectors, the vigilant gatekeepers of intimacy. How can they complain? They're lavished with love and adoration not for their actions, not for their achievements, but for winning the genetic lottery and being born with a vagina. THEY are the ones denying us love. THEY are the ones denying us compassion. THEY are the ones denying us our happiness. Cheating bitches and whores who only want Chad, etc, etc. It all feeds into each other and morphs into something truly toxic. I can't imagine what life as a woman is like. I will never have a vagina. I know why women are selective when it comes to sex and why they'd be turned off by the cynical pessimists of this community, whether they mean no harm or not. Just as normies would be terrified to view the world from our perspective, how could we not be terrified if we were women investigating incel culture? Associations with certain men could be the difference between life and death if you're not cautious enough, and I think it's difficult for men who have never been on the receiving end of so much variable attention to wrap our minds around it. Women are physically weaker than men, and there are sick men who can't restrain their strength over women. You can't afford to let your guard down. It is no wonder why consent and rape are emphasized these days. Sex entails consensual power exchange and compromise, particularly the kinky variety you seem to specialize in. I have thoughts on femdom, BDSM, and all sorts of paraphilic sexual expression I could share later (lord knows this post is long enough already).

Anyway, you're right. People should have more empathy, but our capacity for compassion is hindered by our fears. No one wants to be the loser of society, even incels.

We are superficial animals who , perhaps more so than ever despite our unprecedented instantaneous access to virtually limitless information, but we're too conceited to admit it. Our sexual wants and needs have not evolved beyond the Stone Age. The lizard brain is very much in control, to an extent some never even consider. Cases such as the Isla Vista murders and the recent Toronto van attack come to mind. A minority of disaffected young men are taking out their frustrations on themselves and on society, and people You said people belittle us male virgins due to a lack of empathy that would terrify them if they imagined themselves in our shoes. While I agree with this, I believe it would serve incels well to contemplate the opposite end of the coin and view things from the perspective of the average woman. Resentment of women thrives on this sub because we are under the impression that life as a woman must be an unceasingly awesome existence that's devoid of serious pain and hardship. Women lives so far detached from our lonely miserable life sentences on this cruel. They are the selectors, the vigilant gatekeepers of intimacy. How can they complain? They're lavished with love and adoration not for their actions, not for their achievements, but for winning the genetic lottery and being born with a vagina. THEY are the ones denying us love. THEY are the ones denying us compassion. THEY are the ones denying us our happiness. Cheating bitches and whores who only want Chad, etc, etc. It all feeds into each other and morphs into something truly toxic. I can't imagine what life as a woman is like. I will never have a vagina. I know why women are selective when it comes to sex and why they'd be turned off by the cynical pessimists of this community, whether they mean no harm or not. Just as normies would be terrified to view the world from our perspective, how could we not be terrified if we were women investigating incel culture? Associations with certain men could be the difference between life and death if you're not cautious enough, and I think it's difficult for men who have never been on the receiving end of so much variable attention to wrap our minds around it. Women are physically weaker than men, and there are sick men who can't restrain their strength over women. You can't afford to let your guard down. It is no wonder why consent and rape are emphasized these days. Sex entails consensual power exchange and compromise, particularly the kinky variety you seem to specialize in. I have thoughts on femdom, BDSM, and all sorts of paraphilic sexual expression I could share later (lord knows this post is long enough already).

Anyway, you're right. People should have more empathy, but our capacity for compassion is hindered by our fears. No one wants to be the loser of society, even incels.

Well I'm not the biggest fan of Freud, much more into Jung personally.

tbh the only Jungian psychology I know has to do with personas and unconsciousness and whatnot. General topics. Like I said, I need to brush up on my research. Why don't you like Freud?

Well I've had friends who had self proclaimed mommy fetishes. Is it as prevalent as Freud acted like it is though? I doubt it personally. That's probably why it went out of style in psychological circles. Those are my guesses.

That's why I wouldn't think that it had an impact on every individual's psychology but some. If they brought it up themselves I would think they had such a complex. I wouldn't ever think anyone had it by default.

Oh, it's most definitely not prevalent. If that were the case I'd feel more "normal" and would've adjusted to my sexual preferences more smoothly as I hit puberty. I wouldn't say I have a hardcore mommy fetish, but I've had fantasies involving dominant, somewhat motherly and somewhat degrading women ever since my first exposure to porn.

I was a regular participant in gentle femdom threads on /r9k/ (you're probably familiar) around 3 years ago before they migrated to /d/. There were many other men just like me, sharing fantasies and venting. Many instances of >tfw no mommy gf; the appeal is extremely relatable. Hell, I could've been one of those posters, not that I remember, but it's not my main thing. I just hopped on the board and did a quick wordfind for "mommy gf" and was instantly greeted with a thread basically calling us "Jewish brainwashed" cucks lol. It's a fetish that naturally attracts subsets of awkward men with fairly troubled circumstances, so it's not surprising certain incel types also have it.

But, yeah, it's not the default for most men. Believe me, I wish.

Its like dealing with an abused child. When they're challenging you, just stay chill. Then they will know you're safe. If you scream at them you lose the battle.

Kudos to you be so open and standing up for your right to be nekkid.

lmao never put your face on reddit. Ultimate cuck move. No matter what foids say.

Yep that happened...

Yeah...nothing like this happens in your own fantasy world, idiot. Blocked.

it happens in your fantasy world

Blocked.

Lol

I'm sorry brocel. You didn't deserve this, none of us do.

All bout looks lol

You forgot to install your Chad Jawline MK2 in order to fly under her creep radar.

I want to see you now too. Post a pic op

No.

Plz?

no. Why?

Because I'm 100% sure you're not that bad mate.

I've heard that line from females too! "mate"

Stupid cunts then ghost me 5 minutes later

"y0u'Re nOt tHaT bAD"

Idk. I don't want her to know who I am if she's still lurking on here, which she probably does. Can you pm the name?

I'll do you one better and ldar

Very true.

I'm such a subhuman lmao.

i can see why you as a girl would believe things occur without having to look for them :2

regardless, you should consider reflecting on why that wouldnt be the case for ugly men.

It’s not hate, I just pointed out that she behaved the same way as the girl in op’s post.

Pointing out human flaws isn’t hate

But yet you blame everyone else except yourself

I hate retards such as yourself. Blocked.

Of course, I’m not a little bitch who blocks people.

Idk how being nude means you have no dignity.

Nope, I'm not lying and I can prove it by fucking ugly guys. Of course.

Also that behavior doesn't show no dignity. I mean this subreddit is about sex too. So anyone who engages in sexual dialog has no dignity? Lol. What a weird path of logic. Everyone wants sex and by extension love and companionship.

Virgin's aren't losers.