Yup

This 100%. In fact, by not letting girls ride that sweet cock carousel, you’re violating their constitutional rights.

Open relations ships is KEY

Still in 2018 the majority of femoids will see our screenshots of unfaithful women and they’ll say something like “I don’t agree with what she did BUT...” That’s how it starts.

No, not if you're the one in a relationship with them.

You can tell her not to sleep with someone if she wants to be a relationship with you.

It's the same logic as your right to swing your arm stops at my nose. If you're in a monogamous relationship then that comes with certain moral responsibilities. She's a shitty person if she willingly do something that would betray your trust so much. If she doesn't want to be in a monogamous relationship then she's not qualified to be your partner (if that's what you want).

Until she cheats on you for whatever made up reason, posts about it on twitter, and has 100000 other whores reply with YAAASS GURLLLL SLAAAAAAAY

Only really shitty people would act like that. I've never cheated on my partner, neither have my friends. I'd think they were pretty horrible if they did considering they have good men.

I hsve been cheatrd on exclusively. I am TRASH to be ABUSED.

Sorry to hear that. That's not right and your partner is the one that's trash.

You are not entitled to monogamy

all women love to cheat but we really cant blame them its like blaming a dog for licking its balls or shitting on the carpet

Not even close to true.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america

women are better at hiding it trust me ive met a few women

trust me I've met a few women

yep, before this i used to go to a depression/anxiety chat and used to pm with a few women, mostly all married or older, theyve all pretty much confessed to cheating, wantinting to cheat, or just being whores

So you spoke a few women on a depression/anxiety chat room and think that represents all women?

He's been trying to convince me that all women find it a turn-on as well. He's not succeeding because I personally think cheating is wrong.

Me too, he's pm'ing me trying to get me to 'admit' it.

I'm sure he's being just as delightfully charming to you as he is to me.

Totally deluded though.

Yip, they're so insecure that even if they did get in a relationship they'd fuck it up with their jealousy and insecurities.

Funnily enough, I keep telling them that. They don't listen though.

By the way, this guy thinks that fucking someone else's wife sounds "hot". Double standards much?

Seems like it's some sort of fetish for him.

idk i just feel like im amazing if i could pump and dump you, doesnt that turn you on ? like its hot, id volunteer to fuck you and then leave you

A choice quote from our darling little boy here on his morality about cheating. For the record, it doesn't even rate as "tepid" on the hotness scale.

Omg, cringe. Me neither, strangers pumping and dumping me gives me the fear.

It just makes me feel slightly ill. Especially when they are trying to foist their morality onto me.

Massive hypocrites in every way.

On the upside, he's stopped messaging me for the time being.

The worst is almost the ones who don't feel the need to cheat because they've already taken so much dick.

Already dead inside, might aswell have a relationship with a corpse

No, not at all. If you're married or have an understanding that you're in a monogamous relationship, you should be able to expect your partner to be faithful.

Where in the marriage does it say "don't cheat"?

What is "understanding"? Did you ever talk to your SO about her cheating? Do you have it written down, with signature?

LOL this agotist, things everyone thinks like he does.

If you're in a relationship these are things you should talk about... it's not a very difficult concept that you should know what type of relationship you're in. Most relationships are expected to be monogamous, so I think it's up to whoever wants to deviate from that to communicate their intentions. A relationship is an understanding between two people. It's not a moral thing to hurt your partner or another person with good intentions towards you, you can claim you have the right or whatever BS you come up with (eg. well you never said I can't cheat etc.), but at the end of the day if you know the act of cheating will hurt your partner, then you're a terrible person for doing it. if you really don't feel attracted to your partner anymore, tell them and end the relationship before betraying their trust.

You don't understand.

The logical conclusion of sexual liberalism will have us in a society where it's socially frowned upon for a husband to expect his wife to stay loyal even if she wants to sleep with other people, because it's effectively policing her body and how she uses it.

Even if the husband wants to place this expectation on his wife, she will reframe the expectation as abusive and controlling and gaslight the guy into thinking he's the villiain. Eventually he relents to appease his wife which is necessary to maintain the relationship which I assume he wants to maintain because the cost of divorce is debilitating.

This is obviously a generalization, but every year relationship and sexual norms are degraded and boundaries continue to be pushed, and this is viewed as a positive thing in the mainstream liberal perspective.

Like, polyamory? Are you fucking serious? That entire philosophy reeks of delusion, self-deception, and a lack of self respect.

Ok, you brought up a good point in that divorce is favored towards the woman.

I think there's two key things: Problem 1: In a normal relationship, there should be mutual respect and understanding. Betrayal will end the relationship and trust, and you will have the suffer the consequences of that. If one party will lose out more than the other upon break up then the power dynamic is unbalanced. Historically a woman is in a much more terrible position to pick herself back up after a divorce, so laws are made to balance the scales a bit. Cultural norms and an increase in women's earning potential is tipping the scales more in the women's favor so the historical laws to punish men in divorce is now overkill. So I think this is seriously the biggest problem with men's rights that needs to be addressed. I really think we need to revisit divorce laws and modernize them.

Problem 2: So I never felt like cheating was becoming more acceptable. In my social circle it would wreck you. I can't see even the closest family/friends being on my side if I cheated cuz it's a really evil thing to do. Because at it's core it is betraying someone's trust, breaking their hearts, and destroy their lives sometimes. It's a really nasty thing to do to someone and I would be very concerned if that's normalized. Most of the media I see are saying you should feel free to sexually explore, but I never seen anyone advocating cheating. I don't consume a ton of media, but if we're trending towards cheating is ok even if you're in a clearly monogamous relationship and know your partner is going to be hurt by it, then yeah I'm concerned about that.

I'm not for most of the stuff on this sub, but if it falls into any of the 2 points above I'll be happy to advocate for it.

I typed up a long response but decided to keep it simpler. Stop assuming that the current relationship standards in your particular experience are largely universal and enduring. Realize that shit has changed, continues to change, and will not stop changing - which is a big component of the ideas this sub puts forth.

Nothing of what you said refutes the idea that as sexual liberalism progresses, non-consenting polyamory, cheating, can be defended using women's and sexual liberation philosophies. This frames the man as a villiain in both his relationship and society at large. Why do you think adulterers were brutally murdered historically (stoned, burned, lynched) and in some remaining patriarchal cultures? Because being sexually loyal isn't an agreement or a discussion that can be negotiated and manipulated to those societies, it is absolutely fundamental.

Part of the Church of England marriage vows-

'N, will you take N to be your husband/wife? Will you love, comfort him/her, honour and protect him/her, and, forsaking all others, be faithful to him/her as long as you both shall live?'

From the UK civil marriage service-

'N do you take N to be your lawful wedded wife/husband, to be loving, faithful and loyal to her/him for the rest of your life together?'

Yes, I had a conversation with my boyfriend early on about what we expected from each other and we agreed to be monogamous. We're both quite old fashioned so it wasn't really ever in question, but we wanted to be clear. I don't think he cheats because I trust him not to.

top kek, church ceremony is meaningless and you can say whatever the fuck you want. What matters is the civil marriage document.

Most people in the UK get married in the Church of England, the vows make up part of the legal marriage ceremony. Ditto with the civil marriage, both of these sets are legal declarations in public that have to be made and then you both sign the marriage register. This isn't America, where you can say what you want.

Goes both ways. If she can cheat ans so can you. But you know the tinder stats. She's going to be successful and you're a cuck.

Nope, no one should cheat, male or female.

It's so fun though. Stressful when you think you'll get caught, but really hot while you're doing it.

you are not entitled to a girlfriend that doesn't fuck Chad and Tyrone behind your back while you wageslave 9-5. how dare you even ask such a misogynistic question you virgin rapist serial killer creep?

No. Not an incel. Don't agree with the ideology but if a woman tells you that...it's bullshit. Pack her shit, kick her out, collect evidence of her horrible lifestyle and get custody of the kids Bec the woman that claims that is TRASH.

No if you and your partner are monogamous its a given.

If I meet a woman weighs 300 pounds, I won't have any desire to bang her but I will treat her with the same kind of respect I have for every human being I just met. What she does with her body, what she eats, if and how she works out, that's all her choice and I have no right to tell her what to do and not to do. However, I am under no obligation to date her.

Same idea with faithfulness. Every woman has the right to engage in as many consensual sexual encounters as she wants. There must be no law governing women's sexuality nor should you deny any woman basic respect because of her sexual history. But at the same time, you are under no obligation at all to date a woman who has sex with other people while in a relationship with you.

But at the same time, you are under no obligation at all to date a woman who has sex with other people while in a relationship with you.

Lmao WOW Thanks Captain Cuck, I don't have to date a cheating slut! How liberating!

The question implied there was some moral obligation to let your gf cheat. I pointed out there is not. Don't twist my words.

The post was using yassqueen-logic to mock the way in that much of modern feminist discourse advocates women doing things for their short term satisfaction despite long or short term harm to everyone else, including infidelity. The fact that you didn't understand the youtube comment level satire makes me think you're on another level of braindead cuck.

The crux being that it took you two sentences to basically try and explain, "No you don't have to continue to date a filthy cheating whore after she cheats" In which the response is NO SHIT. Only a cuck would feel the need to exhaustingly elucidate such a basic level of self-respect because the cuck assumes so little of it.

Yes

I miss monogamous relationships, I am a guy though so it makes sense from my perspective. If your girlfriend is cheating or banging other dudes, don't be mad; that's just feminism at work.

Western Society is catered towards women. Women are litteraly incapable of loyalty so its only a matter of time.

You can't force her to not to. But if she does then you leave her, simple as that. How is this a hard concept to understand?

It's misogynist (a fantasy word by the way, it literally doesn't exist) to say that Holes should be responsible for their own actions.

It worked very well for Michael Scott in the office asking Jan specifically not to cheat.

If anything, demanding it will just make them more likely to do it as it comes across insecure. It’s been over.

That’s indeed where we’re headed, op.

Yes. It won't be safe to assume fidelity. There is no 'cheating' if there was never any explicit agreement to rules of exclusivity. If you want monogamy, get her to agree to it (ideally, SHE will be the one to ask for it.)

Then there is no question of 'taking away female autonomy'. It's voluntarily surrendered.

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