what dont foids ruin?

I thought you didn't want them here, so them having their own sub would make sense, wouldn't it?

Plus if you have females identifying as incel, it takes a lot of the stigma out of the label.

I'm one. I do have exceptional circumstances, mind you.

No no you aren't

Yes I am.

Wrong.

Then date me

If you want sex, you're out of luck by the way. And don't even mention wanking or blow jobs, because they're not available either.

Still interested?

Yes, I don't need sex, that's what masturbating is for

Are you in the UK?

Oof not in the UK, but long distance relationships are a popular thing, and then the lack of sex means even less!

Drop into my DMs then, and see if we get on.

Ayy, good bye boys, I'm going in

We shall see if it sticks...

Even if it doesn't you can never claim you are incel now. Thanks for proving foids can't be incel!

The thing is, I can talk to guys on the net any time I like, and I do. I can have rude conversations with guys on the net, and I do.

If talking on the net means not incel, then anyone who has catfished and caught someone and talked to them is no longer incel. It means anyone who has talked to me is not incel.

Just because I talk to someone doesn't make it a relationship (not that there has been anything of the kind in this case), so there is such a thing as a female celibate.

Been having a discussion earlier in discord about the femcel/incel divide, and I've come to the conclusion that femcels aren't necessarily female incels. They are female celibates, there's no actual implication of it being voluntary or not. Not having random sex with someone just for the sake of it is the same as you guys not going to a prostitute. It's just sex. The only difference is money.

Femcels are people who can't get a relationship for whatever reason. My reason is illness. Someone else's reason could be high standards. Someone else could be rejected for being overweight. There are lots of reasons women can be celibate.

It's still different. At least women do have many more potential male suiters standing by. Female celibates are just picky unless they have an illness and even then you can find some guy to hug you. Females are disguated to do even that for an incel. Male incels do not have the oprions femcels have. And do you really think a prostitute is going to help? I heard even prostitutes can be picky. Ever been to a prostitute? Guys say you have to pay up lots uofront. Some wont even touch you or let you touch their breasts without upselling. Do you know how demeaning it must be to have to pay for a bit of sexual time with condom no feelings and shes basically being a femoid awalt bitch to you the whole time. And you have to pay for it... Pay for it while she basically being rude the whole time. I have symoathy for these guys.

I'm not saying a prostitute is going to help, I just said that saying to women that they can have sex any time they like is like telling an incel they can go to a prostitute any time they like. It's meaningless, degrading sex, and the only difference is the payment.

Femcels may have loads of men around them, but not one they actually want to have a relationship with for whatever reason, be it because they're too different in their interests, opposite in politics, disagree on how things should be at home, or a load of other things that have nothing to do with looks. People who have been alone for a while can get very set in their ways, and it will take a certain person to fit in with those ways.

I can get hugs from my brother since he lives with me, but I want more- I want someone I can snuggle with at night, someone I can kiss, someone to curl up on the sofa with, someone to go to musters with and sit by the fire being close, someone I can talk to. I also need to be picky and make sure that it's someone who doesn't flail or fidget in bed, because a random, unintentional elbow in the gut could cause me a lot of problems with my insides, and it needs to be someone who will understand that I'm not always very active, can't go off hiking and stuff, and may have to be rushed into hospital for emergency surgery. It can be a lot for someone to take on.

I empathize with whatever sickness you have and feel sorry for you you have to go through all of it. And I should stop there. However this is braincels and it's sort of a war. And I defend the incels who are picked on. So I'll just say this. You make it seem most single women only seek and want 1 sexual romantic partner. That is simply not what I experience. Single women have 1 or 2 fwb's simultaneously, only have to swing on their tinder app and if they feel horny and choose. Women ingeneral aren't the frigid maria holding out for that 1 guy as many of you women want us to believe. Female promiscuity is a thing and you women RULE the sexdating market. Meanwhile the incel has 0,0

Most don't indulge in bisexual liaisons. You're mixing fantasy and reality now, and while you think loads have FWB and are screwing anything on Tinder, there's actually only a minority doing that too. If you look at the numbers of people on tinder and the number of dates gone on, you can see that many women use it for validation ("see how many matches I have!") rather than dating.

Women in general aren't frigid, but there's a lot who use the traditional pull-at-the-club method over internet dating

You are not one

Why?

Because it is voluntary

How is it voluntary?

You don’t try and how you did you get your “ disease”

My illness is something a lot of people have. It's because I have PCOS that really triggered it, which started the scarring in my abdomen. That has just continued to grow, particularly having had to have a hysterectomy and gall bladder surgery. Most people will never have symptoms. Some people have it a lot worse than me. There's a lassie who is younger than me currently living in a nursing home waiting to die because she can no longer have any more abdominal surgery to remove the scarring that has robbed her of most of her intestines.

I have tried. No one wants someone they can't have sex with and who has a terminal condition.

How do you “try”

Given that my illness leaves me mostly housebound, I have used internet dating. I am currently on a hiatus as we are moving house in a couple of months to an entirely new part of the country, and I will start again after that.

I also go along to battle reenactment weekends and hang out with all sorts of people.

I'm not sitting on my hands doing fuck all and whining about the lack of dates here. I've messaged people, and had people message me, but I get refused or ghosted when they find out I'm ill.

I think you need to work on your personality

I think you need to work on your manners. Given my large numbers of friends, I think my personality is pretty well-rounded.

You troll incels for considerable amount of time everyday. Do some self reflection

I mooch because it's something to do while I'm kind of immobile and on strong painkillers. What's your excuse?

Bored

Go find something to do.

Men can't give birth. Women can't be incels. There are just some facts in life that hold true no matter what.

And yet I haven't had sex in 6 years, nor a relationship, and got turned down or ghosted by guys all the time I was looking. The only reason I am currently on a hiatus from seeking a relationship is because I am moving to Scotland in about 2 months, so will restart my search when there.

Because you are old. Have you tried being young?

Have you tried being less sarcastic?

It's nothing to do with my age. I managed to get plenty of people messaging me being interested, but who hadn't read the very obvious bit in my profile (or ignored it) that said I can't have sex. When I repeated that bit, they vanished.

You are looking for sex but can't have sex? What kind of logic is that? Sorry forgot that you are a foid -- there is no capacity for logical thinking in your brains.

I'm looking for a relationship. There's a difference between having a relationship and having sex.

Then you are definitely not an involuntary celibate. I mean aside from being a foid and all that.

I cannot find a relationship because I get ghosted or turned down flat. I cannot have a sexual relationship because I cannot have sex. I think that covers both the involuntary part and the celibate bit too.

There really needs to be a proper definition of the incel status pinned to the side tbh.

You are not an incel, but a volcel, if you ever turned down somebody wanting to fuck you. Or if you ever had sex without paying for it. This gets rid of 99.999999% of foids claiming to be incel.

I cannot have sex. It's not a case of "turning it down". It would be like you turning down getting buttfucked by Tyrone without lube.

From the wiki: Incel: Involuntary celibate; someone who, for various reasons, cannot enter into a sexual and/or romantic relationship even though they desire such a thing.

So, since I cannot, for various reasons, enter into a sexual/romantic relationship even though I desire such a thing, that means by the sub's own definition, I am incel.

Literally everyone would be a (very short term) incel if you go by that definition. Can't find somebody to fuck that day? INCEL

If you had sex without paying for it even once you are not an incel

6 years and counting. People here have said 6 months without a relationship and men can be considered incel. Why is it different for me?

I don't agree with those people. It is insulting to people like me that are 30+ and have never have been validated by the opposite sex.

If you had sex without paying for it you are not an incel. Period.

You've obviously been doing something wrong if you've got that far without any kind of relationship, or you have some sort of social anxiety that you are not getting treatment for, or some other medical reason.

Just being below average is enough to not get any action. The few friends that I have in RL are all incel too (same age range).

You need to get more friends then. Ones that aren't incel would help.

Nobody wants to be friends with an ugly male lol. I've tried being (way) more social in my twenties and just got exploited and rejected. Everywhere and by everyone. All the time.

I wish I could be less misanthopic but I don't think I can anymore.

Get out into the world. Don't be a wallflower. Join groups and societies or clubs for things that interest you. Widen your social circle.

well wait, why can't you have sex?

also, obviously, some shit is wrong if we're in this sub. saying so and so has done something wrong is like the premise of this sub; like you, have you tried being younger?

Have you tried being less of an ass?

Babe, I've tried everything, including being honest and forthcoming.

What sort of women are you approaching? How are you going about it?

Those are two pertinent questions, because approach is key. Also, don't do it online.

I don't approach women anymore. Nor do I care that I don't. I don't even accept invitations to approach either which I still get, because those are coming mostly from younger girls (I'm 42 so we just want different things anyway).

So if you don't approach, you're not going to get anything. If you think your life is over at 42 because of no relationship, then why not look?

because I'm not going to date someone who drinks and smokes, i'm not going to date a Christian, I'm not going to date someone who weighs more than me (I've tried, it doesn't work out) and I'm not going to chase anyone around like a clown, only for it to go unappreciated. I'm too old and cynical for that already.

Get yourself some hobbies then. If you're in the UK and like history, I can suggest a couple of things.

I'm not in the UK, i do like history, Texas doesn't have much of it, but I like the outdoors and we have a ton of that. I do try to keep busy. I'm not complaining about my life, tbh.

Se if there's any historical reenactment groups in your area. They tend to be a lot of fun and a really excellent social scene.

I live in the boonies. There's literally nothing around me except deserts and rivers and creeks. We have a Starbuck's so you could say my town is growing, lol.

How very Metropollololitan of your town... heh

Don't mind me. Where I come from doesn't even have that luxury.

Why not?

Because I have scar tissue slowly filling my abdomen that is gluing my insides together and is extremely painful when pulled, stretched or torn.

Have you tried taking a shower and being yourself?

Have you tried removing your head from your anal cavity?

An attitude like that is why you're incel

Of course it is, dear... Nothing to do with men at all.

You’re a foid, of course you’re saying that but no, people usually don’t like others blatantly copying them.

And yet they say "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"

I don’t give a shit what “they” say. Having influence is nice, but blatant copying is something else. Also, that sub is clearly a low effort sub that copies everything here but switches it on the victims and mocks them.

Guys here mock women though. Surely if one side can do it, so can the other? That's equality for you.

Guys here mock women for a good reason you dumb foid. Because of how we’ve been treated by them. They simply find our struggles funny and decide to mock us for it, which in turn fuels our hatred even more, not because they’ve had any truly terrible experiences with men.

I expect you will find that they have had terrible experiences too.

No, they are clearly mocking for the sake of mocking.

Or are you just paranoid?

No. Anyone with a brain or isn’t disingenuous can see this so of course you’re saying otherwise.

Proof?

Fuck off now foid. It’s obvious you’re here to do the same.

Nope.

Blocked.

And you were such a shining wit...

femcel because a 9/10 didn't give her enough attention :-( :-( :-(

Femcel because guys ghost me or turn me down flat when I tell them I am ill.

Next.

The femcels are nice, they actually are the closest to us. I'm glad they have their own reddit and they deserve it too. They are some of the only ones that actually respect our right to have our space too. Alas though the normans don't care as much for the femcels because there are so few of them. This is the primary battlefield right here that all the enemies are focusing on. We have to liberate braincels of the non-incel occupation and get incel representation for incels by incels and incels only, and we need to stop the norman invasion and throw them out of our reddit.

Those are just the normies that troll them. I have bee watching the trufemcels for a while, there's seriously only like 3 or 4 of them that are actual femcels.

Pretty sure its incel larpers

they’re a fucking fan club anything makes do women try to replicate LMFAO stay in your fucking place you inferior gender

its just a satire sub isnt it

Their “saint” is bangable. Delusionalfemcels.

I don't agree with those people. It is insulting to people like me that are 30+ and have never have been validated by the opposite sex.

If you had sex without paying for it you are not an incel. Period.

Femcel because guys ghost me or turn me down flat when I tell them I am ill.

Next.

Have you tried being less of an ass?

Have you tried taking a shower and being yourself?

Of course it is, dear... Nothing to do with men at all.

My illness is something a lot of people have. It's because I have PCOS that really triggered it, which started the scarring in my abdomen. That has just continued to grow, particularly having had to have a hysterectomy and gall bladder surgery. Most people will never have symptoms. Some people have it a lot worse than me. There's a lassie who is younger than me currently living in a nursing home waiting to die because she can no longer have any more abdominal surgery to remove the scarring that has robbed her of most of her intestines.

I have tried. No one wants someone they can't have sex with and who has a terminal condition.