Stick your tongue out and lick her cheek, then you kiss

This works.

100%

Do it at a random time when you're really vibing. Just lean in for a quick one. Don't wait for the end of the night, that is too much pressure.

She will use you for a few more validation dates then ghost you I guarantee it. Also she is probably sucking Tyrone's dick right now.

Wouldn't get my hopes up, but if it happens, never come back here again fakecel.

Best of luck my man, may St.BlackOps2cel bless your path to ascension.

if anyone has any advice on how to initiate a kiss without being awkward let me know lmao

Honestly, this was one of those "grab the bull by the horns"-things for me. Wait for an opportunity (her leaning in a bit closer to you, for instance), lean in a bit yourself to test the waters, and if she doesn't move back, you just go for it.

Maybe it'll be awkward at first, but that gets better with time and practice. Just don't try frenching right off the bat.

Like the previous poster said, test the waters first.

You want to make sure she is okay with you being in her personal space first, if she seems okay that you lean against her, touch her arm/back, hold her hand, etc. then she is more likely to be receptive to you trying to kiss her.

Midway or 2/3rds into the date is a better time because there will be less pressure to "kiss at the end" and things will likely be less awkward that way.

When you do attempt it, don't lunge at her or try for more than a sweet and slightly lingering kiss on the lips. Under no circumstances should you midway chicken out and go for her cheek or try to go crazy and stick your tongue down her throat, you don't have the social skills to navigate that action, so don't try to run before you can walk.

If you chicken out on the second date your chances for a third will go down a lot, I'd recommend something like a text saying "I had a wonderful time, I'm kicking myself for not kissing you, but I'm a bit shy and I think you're amazing" if she likes you she'll find it sweet, if she doesn't, you'll save yourself some time wondering how she feels.

Also remember, if you got this far you can do it again, if one girl is interested enough to go on a second date with you another will be too, people aren't that unique, you're obviously someone's "type" for some percentage of the population.

This is absolutely spot on. Follow this advice, OP. Good luck bro, hope you make it out.

Sounds like she's into you, but don't get too attached.

Monogamy is for Chad and Tyrone only, the rest of us should be 'open minded', if you will.

It'll be awkward for sure. But you better fuckin do it anyways. And don't look back. Good work man.

is she a virgin

Good luck faggot.

Best of luck.

It’s over when video game Chad comes along.

good luck. agree at end of night is leaving it too long. nothing wrong with building tension by brushing your hand against her's, your arm against her's. for you to feel comfortable as well. if she doesn't back off she's ok with it. if you find it incredibly difficult to kiss could you rest your head on her shoulder? then turn towards her & kiss neck lightly. if she doesn't want you to do something she'll pull back

Resting head on shoulder at this stage is very beta cringe. Agree with the rest though.

Brilliant! Grab her hand and look her in the eyes. Give her a subtle smile. Squeeze her hand a little bit and ask her if you can give her a kiss, keep the cool looking smile and the eyes locked.

G O O D L U C K!

No, do not ask. Test the waters as described above, and if she's clearly receptive to your small advances, then make your move with confidence when the time feels right. Definitely do not ask, though, you'll look like an awkward beta and it'll probably be off putting to her.

I understand your point but I disagree. I think it can come over as respectful, cool and even charming if done correctly. Maybe you are too much inspired by popular culture like series and movies?

I'm speaking from many experiences.

Well OK fair enough, I'm just speaking from two long term relationships and may be biased.

It can be done tactfully in the right circumstance depending on your personality, hers, the dynamic, etc., but in general, women really do want a man who is assertive and confident. I've never once asked for a kiss out of probably 50+ women. Sounds douchey I know, but I think experience is relevant.

Not douchey at all I guess it's partly my strange personality that made it work for me. It makes me look assertive at times other men would not.

I could see that, potentially, if asked in the right way. If that's what you're most comfortable with and it's worked, then hey, do you!

Let's hope not I don't think I have the energy left to try again if this long term relationship ends. It's probably more when than if it ends, just as with the majority of human relationships. True monogamy is gone what we are left with is a shitshow of serial monogamish relationships.

Yea, I definitely have very little advice for long-term, monogamous relationships lol.

Haha cool. Due to my appearance I can only find long term relationships. I'm not one night stand material and could never make that work! I would love too though. I really enjoy women and would love to be able to diversify my portfolio.

A well, a little bit oversharing. Thanks for talking.

Well, I applaud you for not getting too down on yourself (like most here) and getting out there and making it happen. I can definitely empathize with the guys on here, because looks really do matter a LOT. I've seen how pretty women treat incels and it's awful, but that doesn't mean that they're destined to be an incel for life. Hooking up is a lot of fun for a while, but it definitely gets old, and then you long for something more meaningful and real. I'm at the stage in my life where I'd rather find beautiful girl with a great personality to date, as opposed to just chasing tail, but I also won't turn down a night of spontaneous fun lol. Have a good night bro.

Thanks a lot you too!

Congrats.

Don't get too attached though if she cheats or whatever u might rope

I'm not incel and I'm older with some experience so I'll teach you a trick I learned.

In order to make the future kiss less awkward make sure you're casually touching her throughout the evening, (brush on the arm, hand on her back, touch her hair etc.) By that point she'll be used to your touch and welcome it. The final stage is to touch her face, (if she doesn't recoil or act surprised, you're golden for a kiss). Make sure it's some place reasonably private and kiss her on the side of her mouth, once her lips part and she kinda melts, you can go in for the full mouth kiss.

PS - Never look at your hands while touching her! Always look forward casually or look in her eyes.

I gave you good shit here and it's full proof in my experiences. Knock em dead!

How did it go??

Yo man, I saw your follow up post from last week about her standing you up.

Mind if I PM you?

This is the best advice of all the responses.

see you soon

lol u called it

If you do get her in bed fuck her hard and fast and be dominant, all girls like that even nerdy girls and do foreplay, make sure shes wet first.

You can always pull the "can I have a kiss on the cheek" and then kiss her on lips. Also before you go for the kiss try and hold hands or ask for a hug.

Oh god, no, do not ask for a hug, that reeks of desperation and is very awkward. Holding her hand, putting your arm around her, lightly touching her in general, are all good ideas to gauge receptiveness, however.

And yes, girls almost universally like to be dominated in bed. For that very same reason, you don't want to ask for a hug or a kiss, you just do it.

All the best. Go South young man.

Good

Fakecel gtfo!! Jk, hope u escape inceldom.

jealous i am crying

happy for you bro,you will know when to kiss her if you focus on her

Fucking yes brother. Once you ascend, never come back.

How did it go??

Yo man, I saw your follow up post from last week about her standing you up.

Mind if I PM you?