Don't try interacting with a tall girl as that will make you feel worse.

Every woman sees you as an asexual entity

this is pretty much me whole life

I had classmates shocked to hear I wasnt completely asexual because i looked too much like a little kid in high school. People are dumb.

That's something tallfags don't seem to understand: if you're tall and have a bad face, you're still in the game, you just lost. Girls would give you a rating of 1/10. She thinks "mayyybe if I was drunk enough or he's a millionaire".

Manlets don't even get a rating. We're N/A. We are not viewed as sexual entities in the first place. We can be literal millionaires and it doesn't matter.

If you are a manlet you better are a status god like putin to even dare look at a tall girl.

just run an empire taking half the glove bro

I have manlet friends who get lots of pussy. Face is still more important. One of them just sold drugs and dated a girl that was like 15, he was 20 at the time but still fucked. But she was smoking hot 9/10 and completely retarded. Lol

Show me one picture of this couple. That's all I ask. Just 1. Can't even do that, huh?

Hmm, let me check Facebook. Bitch

Lol still having trouble finding a pic kiddo?

Here's 3 tall man short woman couples I found when I went grocery shopping for 15 minutes in the middle of the day. There were no other couples. https://m.imgur.com/a/25R0hHd

The truth hurts, don't it :⁾

I can't remember his last name...then at about the same time, I remembered I don't give a shit. So there's that. Lol

Uh-huh. Sure kid. EVERYONE believes you.

this black pill proof should be screen capped and saved in the blackpill science

Lmao

hahahaha

I'm curious how tall are they...

They were all 5'11" to 6'2"

Pff, not even that tall...

The ethnic is fat and ugly. Just more proof that height is more important than face.

The other guys weren't lookers either.

More proof. I said this yesterday: the fact tallfags are allowed to have less attractive faces, and still get girlfriends tells you cunts place more of an emphasis on height than face.

People here are delusional if they think you need an 8/10 face to find someone. Be barely average looking and tall enough and you'll find someone. I doubt any of the tallfags here are true incels in the first place.

I don't even get the point of the delusional "face > height" cope.

Tallfags coping hard on the fact they failed at life playing easy mode.

what a huge L you took here

Better than that huge D you took last night.

"just sell drugs brah"

It works, if pussy is all you're after.

and then just go to jail and get raped bro

it's worse to be short with an ugly face but tall with an ugly face is over too

somewhat true. but a tall guy with ugly face is also gonna lose no matter what bro. your still thinking with the "grass is greener" mindset.

If your height starts with five, you're not worthy of being alive.

life fuel for 4'11cels

Phahaha, true.

lol nice one

suicide fuel for 50 foot king kong

HEY THATS ME

It's not over for metricsystemcels

They treat us like a toddler.

Not taking anything away from shortcels, but being tall makes no difference if you're an auschwitzcel, in fact, it makes it worse in that you can't hide away in public :'(

I am trying my man, but I hate overeating. Makes me fear for the day just seeing food triggers PTSD.

how tall are you and how many calories do you eat a day? It really shouldn't be too hard to eat a surplus of calories if you eat the right things. Go for high fat stuff.

might need to work out then too to not just get fat but this ain't red pill and gymcelling won't work

he should just ldar and eat whenever his body tells him it's hungry, let nature take it's course

plus then you will likely just end up with a pot belly and child bearing hips which make it even more over

thincels have the best chance, which is still zero but why make it even worse

Why the fuck are you talking to cunts in the first place, let alone a freak of nature. I ignore 95% of cunts who attempt to engage in any form of communication with me, and you should do the same.

Same goes with liking any girl when you have an ugly face.

1) I've dated and had sex with a man who was 5'5. He was poorer than me, fatter than me, dumber than me, less social than me, less successful than me, less active than me, worse in every way. He didn't have to do anything to date me, not go on a date, not make any effort.

2) I've been considered an asexual entity by many men and I didn't complain about it nor was I offended it by it. Stop being so entitled.

Boo hoo, cunt. You're the rare minority that would date a Manlet. Want a medal or something?

I want you men to stop complaining with your mouth full.

I want the same of women, but it's not gunna happen

You had to date and have sex with a man that is 5'5 and worse than you in every way because you are bottom-of-the-barrel-tier trash as well. "I've been considered an asexual entity by many men, I've been rejected by many men, some were incels" - I don't even want to imagine how fucked up your body/face must be in order for incels - who have the lowest standards of all men - to reject you. Why do you think your opinion holds any ground here?

Bitch, you are on reddit and have a name with two colors and a flower in it. That means you are 3x as likely to be ugly. Ugly girls don't get to be choosers. Nobody said anything about being entitled except you.. which means you know you are ugly and feel entitled to any type of guy.

yo I'd have sex with her even if ugly

the name with two colors and a flower is where I draw the line tho

I thought incels think that all women can be in a relationship, even ugly ones, and use that "unfairness" as a basis for their beliefs. Why do you contradict each other?

They can. The fact she fucked someone still proves that.

They can. And she did.

why not with the manlet anymore

He dumped me because he made redneck friends who were more into weed and beer and hunting and they made fun of me for having a posh background and being more sophisticated i guess. I didn't mind i wanted to know them, but I guess he ended up spending more time with them and less with me and eventually we grew apart.

show proof

SERIOUS question. I'm not trying to make an argument here, I know this is a tu quoque. This is purely a point of psychological curiosity. Have you ever done anything wrong in your whole life? Have you ever acted in a bad way, or have been a bad person? I sure blame myself for how I've ended up. I know I've been fucked up to people. But your entire posting history... reeks of malignant narcissism. Your main posting schtick is professing to be a walking contradiction of general incel observations about gender dynamics, presumably to shock us into reconsidering our thoughts and actions. And yet I get the sense that you yourself aren't prone to much serious introspection. From how you described your own ex and how you talk about him all the time, my first conclusion given this new information: he made friends who all sincerely advised him to get the hell away from you because you're fucking toxic.

Woah no I wasn't toxic when I was younger, this is a new development. I'm mentally ill and triggered by the stuff I read on braincels yeah because it just negates my whole existence. Incels say women never date down, but I dated down, my friends, mom, sisters-in-law, cousins, neighbors dated down, it's not just me. Incels say it's impossible to get a girlfriend if you're a mediocre man. All the mediocre men around me have had little trouble finding sex and girlfriends. I wasn't a mean person or anything. I volunteered, I shared, I loved my boyfriends. I definitely wasn't toxic while I dated that guy.

Now I'm a depressed moping loser with a failed life so yes I'm toxic now, I spend all day crying, but I precisely don't want to date a man while I'm like this. Believe it or not, I don't want to impose bad things into other people.

The experience OP had and the experiences you've had can both be correct and valid. It's OK to feel ugly and unwanted because we are short. It's also OK to feel that the stuff said here is invalidating to you, though I see OP as being self-critical and defeatist rather than casting blame on women. And to me, what you reinforced with your examples in this thread is just that we're fucking losers who fail even when it's in fact not impossible. I accept that, some other incels do too, dunno how many. I've also got to say that (again referring to the earlier post) it's difficult to say you're not a complainer. You complain about men and your past boyfriends a lot. In my view, there's literally nothing wrong with that, though. Nobody has a monopoly on suffering, everyone can complain.

I called you out for narcissism not because I suspected you've manipulated others, but because of how casually you think of other people as being all-around "worse" than you. I've never done that to someone (except maybe infamous straight-up villains). I don't think of other men or women as "mediocre". I mostly berate myself. It's creepy and scary to me that people think like that about other people, and it's a running theme in your posts. I know that's rather ironic to say given the rhetoric that floods incel spaces. I'm just sharing my perspective.

And to me, what you reinforced with your examples in this thread is just that we're fucking losers who fail even when it's in fact not impossible.

I'd attribute it to chance, shyness, and not putting yourself out there enough. It's not impossible, so why pretend otherwise?

You complain about men and your past boyfriends a lot.

Only because I read incel and pill sub and all I see is men complaining that women are horrible. Like I said the other day: imagine you date down, never ask anything of men, give them sex for nothing in exchange, etc. then you become depressed and you go online to forget, and all you see is men complaining that women don't date down, that women are too demanding, that women are greedy, etc. It blows my mind. When will the misogyny stop? These men actually believe each other and spread their message. I can't help trying to spread the opposite.

you think of other people as being all-around "worse" than you—even people you were in relationships with. Was that how you thought of him at the time, or an evaluation in hindsight?

Hindsight of course. I never thought in those terms until I arrived on reddit and saw "hypergamy" and "market value". Here's what happened. I was on reddit and men were saying "women only date above their looksmatch". I said "I dated my looksmatch or below". The men replied "then he was a beta bucks". I said "he made less money than me and he came from a poorer family and he had a lower probable future salary / he did much worse than me in school / he had no ambition / my last boyfriend was unemployed". The men replied "then he was more popular than you". I said "he was actually more socially reclusive than I was and shy". The men kept saying "he had something, women always date up". So this is how the laundry list of ways in which I was better than MT boyfriends wad born.

because it just negates my whole existence.

You negated my whole experience, then acted like you've never done anything wrong.

Thought you said your mom makes a million dollars a year and you were in medical school?

No, I said I dropped out of medical school for depression, and my mom is a surgeon.

And the reason for depression is? sudden onset? It surely can't be because of lack of companionship because you are a self admitted overachiever, fit, smart, come from a rich ass family, have good "values". Just pop some cipralex in like I did and hope it goes away. that might actually work for you if it's chemical.. Cipralex won't solve my dilemma of crippling anxiety, chronic loneliness, and suicidal thoughts due to the reality of not being able to find a partner because of being a 2/10 and extreme female hypergamy.

To be honest I tried Cipralex ten years ago yeah. I didn't just give up on life because I had depression, I lived with it for many years, like you said I had many privileges in life, so I was able to hold on for quite a while thanks to that.

Then what the hell are you exactly on here about? I'm assuming you're in your late twenties or early thirties, but a total volcel and trying to argue against a societal dynamic that is so obvious to most people, and worse trying to argue the exact opposite with your three anecdotes of dating manlets.

It's not just me. Every short man I've known dated. Women around me date down too. I find it offensive to build an entire ideology around the falsehood that women only date up and that women are too demanding and that dating is impossible for men.

I think it's men who are too demanding, entitled, calculating, inflexible, unwilling to make sacrifices, overestimating their value, and complaining with all the power in their hands. It's never been easier to get sex except maybe in the 90s-2000s, but the only reason it's harder now is because people have started to realize sex sucks.

Have a cookie

He was poorer than me, fatter than me, dumber than me, less social than me, less successful than me, less active than me, worse in every way

Hmm, sounds to me like you need to work on your personality.

I've been considered an asexual entity by many men

You must be one ugly piece of shit. No wonder you fucked that manlet, he's probably the best you could do.

Well the point is... there are other girls like that, so why not date them?

Because these cunts are too cowardly to make themselves known, and I'm not going to lose what little sanity I have left chasing worthless cunts.

Plus I just graduated college, so I'm basically fucked and will never find someone now.

Maybe being single is okay. I found having a boyfriend came with a lot of responsibility. It's not relaxing nor pleasurable. Now that I'm super mentally ill I don't feel up for the challenge. I know I'm not reliable anymore and a piece of shit now.

5'4 gymcelling manlet here too,

this feeling destroys the very fabric of my soul, I don't know how much I'll be able to cope knowing this since I am very attracted to tall women, maybe I'll go to some tall prostitutes but the feeling will remain there.

girls my height or shorter do not want me either. the girls that shat on my heart in my teenage years in high school were also some tall stacies, some really nasty mean bitches, but I never learn. Manlets never learn.

Manlet here too. I've tried explaining to my friends before (normies that don't believe me). Girls don't compare theirselves to your height. They compare you to other guys heights. Yah I'm still taller than the majority of women but I'm dwarfed by other men and that's all they care about. It is soul crushing.

But something I have noticed with good looking manlets, their girlfriends are always their height or an inch or 2 taller. Short girls really only date tall guys.

Girls don't compare theirselves to your height. They compare you to other guys heights.

obviously. I figured that out at 12 years of age. only average eight and tall retards(actual retarded that‘s how dense you habe to be) do not see this fact

I feel like it may be something instinctual for short girls to want really tall guys.. because they know if they procreate with an average guy the chance of a low height child is lower. Didn't think about this until today. Makes sense tbh.. I'm not super tall but a lot of girls I dated who were on the shorter side seemed a lot more desperate to keep in touch with me than other girls who just cut ties/ghosted/grew apart.

Short girls really only date tall guys.

REEEEeeeeeeeeeeeee... I can't stand that!!! REEEeee

Attraction to tall guys can be explained by calling it attraction to security. Whether or not it's something society has taught us since forever, or we're naturally attracted to someone we can start a family with, it's normal for women to be attracted to someone who looks like they can start a family AND protect them. So height is associated with security because you can trust a tall guy more to protect you from being attacked. It's also associated with security because the guy is bigger than you, establishing that you're under his protection.

In the end you can't really do anything about that. It's like when men like big tits because their brains naturally associate it with the woman being fertile and can take care of a baby. But of course, it fucks up short guys when it's like this.

It's one of those situations where you have to find people who are into short guys or doesn't care about height. And trust me: there are many people like that. I've actually found that most girls who like short guys are tall.

You'll be fine. Just be patient and know where to look

"It's one of those situations where you have to find people who are into short guys or doesn't care about height. And trust me: there are many people like that. I've actually found that most girls who like short guys are tall." Absolutely false. Tall girls wouldn't touch me with a 10 ft pole. I got rejected on Tinder TENS of times in the last moment before setting the date because the girls reminded themselves that they need to know the height of their partner first. And the classic, older than time cope - there's someone for everybody brah just wait you'll find someone eventually". Platitudes, platitudes, platitudes, just admit that there's no way in hell that in highschool/college/work/any other part of life a 5'4 guy can get the 5'7 cutie that he fell in love with.

that femoid's post shows how women never have to deal with rejection and hardships, they live in tutorial mode with every thing handed to them on a silver platter.

I've never been handed anything to me regarding sex or romance :)

I don't mind you assuming though, but let me clear it up. The most sexual thing I've ever done was hold hands with someone during PE (as part of as an exercise). I've never had a romantic partner nor have anyone confess they are interested in me. Although someone sexually harassed me once. So I guess I have it easy then?

Welcome here then...

I'm not here to stay lol. I'm not that pathetic

At my high school, there were a few guys between 5'3-5'7. Not anyone shorter though, so I can't speak for them. But some of them were actually the most popular kids and frequently received attention from girls. At college I didn't know as many people as in high school in general, but there was this one boy who was 5'4 and ginger. You'd think girls wouldn't be into that because short height and red hair generally isn't seen as attractive. But this guy would constantly be around girls, make out at parties and had 3 girlfriends in the one year I knew him. Now the reasons why he managed that was because he was incredibly charming and sweet. People would make fun of his height AND hair and it wasn't exactly fun, but he saw both as a part of his identity, and he was proud.

Not everyone is gonna have the same experience as him. But according to the people I know (short guys and girls), short height is definitely a disadvantage, but it's definitely not impossible to find love.

This dumb bitch again. The exception doesn't break the rule. Not every one of us can be status Gods and prom kings. As a 5'4 guy I got bullied by taller and stronger boys in high school because it was easier to pick on me, this destroyed my self esteem, and the girls looked at me as something less than human. Oh no it's not impossible finding love as a short man. Winning the lotto isn't the impossible either, you only have 0.0000000715% chance to win though.

Like I said: "Not everyone is gonna have the same experience as him. But according to the people I know (short guys and girls), short height is definitely a disadvantage, but it's definitely not impossible to find love."

Some people are gonna have bad personalities as well as being short. Others are maybe not good at flirting with girls. Then there's instances like yours where you get bullied. And that's gonna make it even more difficult to find love in high school. But the chances are you'll be absolutely fine after high school if you also have the right personality and mentality.

"But the chances are you'll be absolutely fine after high school if you also have the right personality and mentality." How can you have the right personality and mentality after being ostracized and bullied for the whole duration of your childhood and teenage years thanks to something out of your control? Are you really that dense? "Some people are gonna have bad personalities as well as being short." The personality meme LMAO @you Miss me with those fucking platitudes. Short men are disposable and nobody wants us, nobody denies the truth, only you try to sugar coat it with empty words "it's not impossible to find love as a short man", again, it's not impossible to win the lotto either but what are the chances? Fuck off and stop replying to me until you have something intelligent to say.

Perhaps it's your attitude, not your height? You're unwilling to have a civil conversation and prove your immaturity by insulting me. No human is attracted to that. Female nor male.

My attitude doesn't mean jack shit, I've went to the point of setting dates on Tinder tens of times, and got along with many women, that was until they found out about my height, and had a lot of female friends too in my orbiting days, they all ghosted me in the end, but what would you know anything other than spilling up worthless platitudes.

"The most sexual thing I've ever done was hold hands with someone during PE (as part of as an exercise). I've never had a romantic partner nor have anyone confess they are interested in me." I can't help but feel sorry for you though.

Attitude means a lot. Problem with Tinder is that it's online and it's hard to properly judge your personality. IRL they'd notice your height immediately but if you have the right attitude, the right aura, it'd be easier than online.

Don't feel sorry for me. I've never felt as if I needed those things. They're just luxuries. For now, at least

It's sad that you see bottom-of-the-pyramid human needs such as a basic caress or a hug luxuries, but each to their own I guess.

For kids and teenagers I think it's luxuries. Or to explain it better: you don't need it. It's just a nice thing.

Obviously every human needs to be social and loved, but romantic love really isn't that needed for kids and teenagers.

Bullshit. Of course you need it as a teenager. Remember those kids and their stupid 2 week long relationships in the 7th grade? Those kids learned to socialize and how to interact with the opposing gender. That is essential. If you missed that in your teenage years it's very hard if not even impossible to recover. Missing out on young love is one of the worst things that could happen which could halt your development as a mentally healthy human being.

I suppose you could see it like that. But you really don't need relationships as a kid to learn how to interact with the opposing gender. At my school, at least, everyone was friends regardless of gender. A few of my friends are 18 and over and still haven't dated or tried anything sexual (out of choice) and they're perfectly fine mentally.

It's one thing when they didn't try and didn't do anything sexual by their own choice, and entirely a different thing when you try all your life all types of techniques to get a relationship (tinder/clubbing/festivals/cold approaches/whatever), and you still get left out/ignored/rejected. I don't give a flying fuck about the copers that are not interested into a relationship.

Oh. No, I was talking about not caring about whether or not you're in a relationship

betabuxxin maybe

guaranteed she cheats on him, he likely knows and is ok with it

Your friend is a faggot.

Many men will date small breasted women.

Very very few women will date short men.

Modern women's fascination with height is more sociological than biological. Many women who feel attraction to short guys will still reject them for fear of what other women would think. Women of different cultures value height differently. In our culture the obsession with male height is vanity driven; Dating a tall guy helps women feel secure with what other women think of them. It's not about protection, many women would prefer to date a 6 ft bean pole to a huge, jacked 5'5 guy that's trained to fight. The value of a man to women today is how he can make herself look, nothing has exaggerated this obvious truth like social media.

Oh great, so I need to find a chick that has a fetish for 4’11 guys

4'11 holy shit

Lots of men like girls with small boobs. Zero women prefer short men.

That's actually not true :)

thank god am tall

Don't feel bad, I'm 5'8"! Except, I'm attracted to women who are 5'10"+.

DONT TALK TO GIRLS/THINK ABOUT GIRLS AND FOCUS ON YOUR CAREER.

WHEN YOU GET A BIT OLDER LIKE ME AT 24 YOU WILL SLOWLY START TO GET INDIFFERENT TO GIRLS.NOW I DONT EVEN CARE WHAT ANY GIRL SAYS/THINKS ABOUT ME.I GO TO COLLEGE DO MY CLASSES COME BACK HOME .NO USELESS GOSSIPS AND TIME WASTING,NO STUPID STUDY SESSIONS WITH 10 PEOPLE,NO CRAPPY HANGOUTS AT MALLS WITH CLASS MATES AND THEIR GOLD DIGGER GIRL FRIENDS IN WEEKENDS AND VACATIONS.

I KNEW ABOUT FEMALE NATURE AND HYPERGAMY STUFF IN FIRST YEAR.DECIDED TO GIVE UP ON GIRLS ALTOGETHER , FOCUSED ONLY ON MY STUDIES AND CAREER.NOW I AM IN FINAL YEAR.

I’m 5’8” and 35. I had a tinder hookup at 3am with a 6’1” college girl.

Be nice and post good pics, it’ll work out

good comment, you just saved every incel

5‘8

this still counts as male though. 5‘4-5 not

Wait so I'm still good?

Cash.

6'1 but how many pounds

Maybe 150? She was thin, kinda nerdy looking.

5'8 is barely short I'm the same height

For a 6’1” broad, it’s freaking short.

I wow you sound like a brother of mine. I would feel so much better to meet someone like us in real life but there are not many. I‘m 21 and a 5‘4 college student and I am not exaggerating when I say height has destroyed my youth, height is destroying my life. absolutely. growing up as a 5‘4 man, I dont even know whete to dtart, I guess you know the painful experience. yes, I am the shortest guy on the entire campus, the only men who are my height are asian and 70years old first generation immigrants. not even hispanics and asians my age are this short these days. when women say short guys they are not even talking abiut us, they mean like 5‘6/7, sub 5‘5 does not even exist in their eyes, we are seen as literal jokes, ruled out as potential mates from the start. most men even short guys will never realize what it means to be VERY short. when outside, I would guess a good 80-85% of women are my height or taller than me, there are not many my age that are actually shorter. that rules out like 99.5% of the female population. I was also not blessed in the face, I am balding quite badly at my young age and am a dickcel because god thought the rest was not enough. most guys here are volcels but we cery short guys, we are the real legit incels I think. height is trump, height is life and surely height is the most important, the literal most important a man can or has to possess in order to even have a shot.

my first crush was on a girl I really got slong very well with. I always knew though that it is never going to work out. why? besides everything being perfect her being 2 inches taller opened up this barrier. this barrier of societal prejudice

you are not deen as an option, you are not seen as a sexual being with needs and desires, you are seen as a best friend and a borther at most. it‘s a fucking joke to be this short

Start wearing lifts so you are at least 5'7-8 bro. Style your hair UP for another inch or two. 'Playing fair' never works and everyone is cheating apparently.

You’re a MHO(manlet humanoid organism). It’s over.

Meanwhile /r/short hates you guys and wants you to die alone. Swat those motherfuckers

Feel the manlet pain. Seriously, the only dimorphism I have is my soy beard.

I'm 6'1 and shit is almost the same to me

it depends on the girl, not every girl wants to date someone taller than them. i know a girl that is taller than me by several inches that was interested in me.

Actually, average female height is 5'4". Most women are shorter than you, and would never date a shorter guy anyway, so why ask them out? Seriously, women wear heels for a reason. Instead of asking out tall girls, ask out twice as many short ones!

I'm of Indian ethnicity and to be honest, being short as a white guy is a death sentence. Most white guys and girls are pretty tall, so I think you should be at least 6 ft tall to have some value as a man.

I'm 5'7'' and that's pretty average among Indian guys. Also, the majority of Indian girls are shorter than me, so that's the only 'luck' I have. I think height is mostly an issue if you want white girls.

I want you men to stop complaining with your mouth full.

Manlet here too. I've tried explaining to my friends before (normies that don't believe me). Girls don't compare theirselves to your height. They compare you to other guys heights. Yah I'm still taller than the majority of women but I'm dwarfed by other men and that's all they care about. It is soul crushing.

But something I have noticed with good looking manlets, their girlfriends are always their height or an inch or 2 taller. Short girls really only date tall guys.

The experience OP had and the experiences you've had can both be correct and valid. It's OK to feel ugly and unwanted because we are short. It's also OK to feel that the stuff said here is invalidating to you, though I see OP as being self-critical and defeatist rather than casting blame on women. And to me, what you reinforced with your examples in this thread is just that we're fucking losers who fail even when it's in fact not impossible. I accept that, some other incels do too, dunno how many. I've also got to say that (again referring to the earlier post) it's difficult to say you're not a complainer. You complain about men and your past boyfriends a lot. In my view, there's literally nothing wrong with that, though. Nobody has a monopoly on suffering, everyone can complain.

I called you out for narcissism not because I suspected you've manipulated others, but because of how casually you think of other people as being all-around "worse" than you. I've never done that to someone (except maybe infamous straight-up villains). I don't think of other men or women as "mediocre". I mostly berate myself. It's creepy and scary to me that people think like that about other people, and it's a running theme in your posts. I know that's rather ironic to say given the rhetoric that floods incel spaces. I'm just sharing my perspective.

because it just negates my whole existence.

You negated my whole experience, then acted like you've never done anything wrong.

Thought you said your mom makes a million dollars a year and you were in medical school?

It's one thing when they didn't try and didn't do anything sexual by their own choice, and entirely a different thing when you try all your life all types of techniques to get a relationship (tinder/clubbing/festivals/cold approaches/whatever), and you still get left out/ignored/rejected. I don't give a flying fuck about the copers that are not interested into a relationship.

Oh. No, I was talking about not caring about whether or not you're in a relationship