Being a sexually loved male is only for chad.

Yep. The only difference between creepy and confident is how attractive you are (to her).

It depends. It could be or he could've just genuinely delivered the joke in an off-putting manner. Looks aren't everything

You are a sexual harassment/assault waiting to happen btw.

When attractive people flirt and joke it is called flirting and having fun.

When unattractive people flirt and joke it is called sexual harassment.

If you really thought so you wouldn't taunt him like this.

Or maybe you're just a moron that doesn't think that your actions have consequences.

Just out of curiosity, what was the exact joke that you told her?

yeah tbh need to know what you said, if it was a joke about you guys then it's possible you were genuinely socially wrong

If it was actually something wrong by him she wouldn't have reacted the way she did, almost apologizing for telling him to never mention sex ever.

S O C I A L L Y

W R O N G

Thank you.

F A C E

how do you get table it bot Omg

OP: Haha I'd totally rape you lol

Stacy: Please don't joke about raping me

OP: *makes this post*

jfl i you aren't rape jokes maxxing in 2018

It's interesting how becase he's ugly you assume he is making crude rape jokes towards women. If he was handsome Chad you'd assume he was making smooth sexual banter.

I was joking man...

As a tall attractive guy, I make rape jokes all the time, and I've never had a woman complain. Most of them laugh. For a while, the entirety of my Plenty Of Fish "about me" section simply said "Not a serial rapist!", and I still got at least one unsolicited message per day from women I would rate between 6-8.

Just be careful

Please don’t get arrested man, you’re already on shaky ground just by having the audacity to talk to her

He broke law #1 when he was in the same room as her. He broke law #2 when he talked to her. He broke law #3 concurrently with the first two by being ugly. From the looks of things he has a 50% chance of going to the chair. There's always appeals, OP. Those take years!

?? what are these 3 laws?

Are these different from rule 1 and 2 (Be attractive/ don't be unattractive)?

Alternate point of view: Don't be a cuck, say whatever the fuck you want. You're an adult who knows what sex is, and if she's too stupid to figure that out then fuck her. You don't need to bitch policing your language.

Come on, you guys need to step your woman hating game up.

I don't give a fuck if she polices it, the problem is the actual police or if she squeals over social media in which case it doesn't matter whether the actual police is involved or not because you'd already be fucked

Is a life where you're constantly afraid of women even worth living? Just fucking do what you want dude.

Again, I'm not afraid of women I'm afraid of the people who believe them and will lie for them, which is most people.

pussy. Stand up for yourself.

Weinstein, Morgan Freeman and the rest of them say hi. It’s not that straight forward as ‘stand up for yourself’, when the repercussions could be devastating.

repercussions could be devastating.

Is a life where you're constantly afraid of women even worth living? Just fucking do what you want dude.

repercussions could be devastating.

Is a life where you're constantly afraid of women even worth living? Just fucking do what you want dude.

"Better to die on your feet than live on your knees."

Easy to say when it is not your life being destroyed.

What "life" could you possibly be living if you post here? You're letting women win.

SHOULD BE STICKIED. Finally some sanity.

I already yell at them when they act stupid lol. I'm quick to anger with them tbh.

Give up your sexual advances. Just be a friend only.

Befriending women is fucking stupid. They are not fun to hang around and they are only "social proof" insofar as to let other women know you are a doormat and would make a good betabux or beta orbiter.

They might be fun to hang around if you tried harder

lol why would I tryhard with my friends? I don't have to do that with male friends you dumb orbiter

Trying harder leads to better friendships in any situation. Try it

Most men are agreeable with each other, easy to get along with. Women are cunts to everyone including each other.

That's a nice lil biased opinion ya got there matey. And how would you know that, talked to many of them?

I can make sexual jokes with my guy friends without walking on eggshells. I can also make fun of them without them taking it personally.

Well your friends probably know you well and have a similar sense of humour. Not everyone does and they don't have to. They can take those jokes any way they want to, good or bad,. Based on a bad personal experience or not

That's the point. Almost all guys can joke about sexual things without making it personal. Girls can't. That's why it's impossible to be friends with girls.

I thought you and I are friends? 🤔

You're different. And even with you i hold myself back sometimes so as not to offend or hurt you.

It appears there's living evidence that you CAN be friends with them.

It's not the same. Plus I've made no effort to hide the fact that if I lived closer to her I'd ask her out.

It's always "not the same" with everyone.

It's not because I've told her that I would ask her out if she lived closer.

And how did she respond to that?

She's said she wants someone closer. So we're just friends now.

So no word about her interest in you? Cus some people would do long distance if they really wanted to so it could be an excuse

Long distance is the hardest type of relationship to maintain. It takes an immense amount of faith and trust to believe that that person isn't dating because you're nowhere near to find out. I've personally never seen a long distance relationship work if the people weren't dating before one of them moved away.

That's very true. Makes sense

Like you said they would do long distance if they really wanted to. I've been in some long ditance online relationships, they fizzle out after a few months almost always because there is only so much affection can grow through text.

I feel like most incest affectation are gonna be like " Aha!" a normie admitted it after I say this next part but,

Physical appearance and contact does matter in a relationship, it's an important aspect but it isn't singular. Personality matters a hell of a lot more, that's why online relationships with no contact and even no pictures can happen, you can be attracted to the idea of people. But eventually those feelings fade as if it never seems like you will meet what's the point. Even disregarding sex, to never be able to even embrace at all becomes hollow, almost painful in a way.

Holy shit this became a wall of text sorry.

Well you have to ask her. Personally it changes nothing for me if she doesn't want to date me.

That's fair.

I disagree based on the fact I have women friends who aren’t cunts to me. How can you be so ignorant of the fact your personal experiences don’t apply to everyone?

To be fair, I don't necessarily wanna be friends with someone that I need to try hard to be friends with

Befriending a woman is the most beta thing you can do. Women are meant to be fuck, what are you gona talk about with a foid? She probably has bad breath from all the cum he slurped from multiple chads, so it will be a very uncomfortable situation.

Nah drop that dumb cunt all together.

Did you make a sexual comment that weirded her out.

what did you say to her?

Probably a rape joke or something, how these things go down are almost never how the incels tell them

If her response actually was something like “can you not do that it just kills my image of you” then it clearly wasn’t a rape joke. That’s not at all how someone would reply to a creepy rape joke.

But stacy, I see myself as sexual and i defintiely see you as sexual. Infact it completely creeps me out that you dont feel that. I feel raped and betrayed. Youll find someone that feels platonically about you one day stace ;)

Inb4 OP gets #metoo'd and kicked out of college.

Stop orbiting before you get thrown in jail.

What does orbiting mean?

Lurk more.

Heh?

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Think about it. It's these incels hanging around Staceys thinking they're going to get laid, or 'orbiting.'

Orbiter is a guy that wants to sleep with his female friend.

Basically all guys with female friends. Stupid term.

You can't speak for everyone. It's a stupid term I agree but for other reasons

Didn’t claim to... what are your reasons?

You said basically all guys. It's a stupid term because you shouldn't be classifying people who you THINK have this ulterior motive but don't know for sure

Orbiters are specifically the types who stick around and basically act as the woman’s squire, hoping that one day she’ll see him as more than a friend. It’s exceedingly obvious and pathetic

I think most men would fuck most of their female friends given the opportunity, but it’s not at all a goal and they can carry on a platonic friendship where sex/a relationship isn’t on their mind

*before you go full cuck

Men and women cannot be friends .

End of the story

Sooooooooooo not true!

I accept the downvotes that will come with this. I just really had to say it.

Just remember that every straight single guy "friend" you have would fuck you at a moment's notice if you allowed him. Heh "friends"...

I dont even think friendship exists lmao

You said “straight single guy”. The other incel said “men and women”.

Men can be gay and have female friends. Brothers and sisters can be friends. It’s not impossible for a man and a woman to be friends.

Also, who gives a shit if they want to fuck me? They’re not complete idiots (they’re my friends after all) so they don’t focus all of their energy and time on trying to fuck me. In fact, maybe they fuck someone else in their spare time. Men and women can be friends as long as one of them isn’t a selfish freak that literally only thinks about sec.

Don't be dense, the saying "men and women can't be friends" obviously refers to straight men and women. Not gays or siblings.

Also, who gives a shit if they want to fuck me?

They do lol or else they wouldn't be your friend. If you were uglier or a man they wouldn't even talk to you.

You don’t know how attractive I am. Maybe I am really ugly.

You also don’t know what my personality is like. Maybe they would still talk to me if I were a man. Unless you’re also asserting that no friendship can exist between men and men?

You’re the dense one if you genuinely believe that all men are only friends with women because maybe one day those women will have sex with them. I know that’s how you’re brain works, so you assume it’s how every man’s brain works. But it’s not.

You won't convince them. They have layer upon layer of mental gymnastics to convince themselves it's just their physical appearance that keeps them from finding a girl, when in reality it's this mysogonistic mindset that drills any chance they have with a girl.

Anybody who thinks girls and guys can't be friends because it's just sexual tension isn't a complete enough person to realize every woman isn't there for your sexual gratification, and that they are just people too.

Well thanks for the support anyways.

No problem, I honestly don't know why since I found this place I feel lie I want to help them see the true error of their thought process.

Maybe it's because during my darkest times I may have gotten bitter enough to consider some of these their idealogies myself (I didn't know about the subreddit, they were just my own thoughts) but in the end I didn't believe them and I realized it me that was the problem. I'm hoping I can make them see that too. It's a lost cause, but I get why you try, I feel the same way.

Right. I mean I have at least a little sympathy for these people because loneliness is fucking depressing. But what they don’t realize is having a woman wanting you to fuck her is not a surefire cure for loneliness.

It's not even that, their loneliness stems from their us vs them mentality. They see "Chads" and "Normans" as some other faction who are all agaisnt them, with some diabolical plot to take all the woman and leave none for the incels.

The true hilarity is when you ask whether they've gone after a girl who they consider ugly, and they say things like "that couldn't even get my dick up" or "I'm not looking to sleep with trash". Like they are mad that women don't want to go out with someone less attractive but most of the incels are just as shallow. All their insults towards "roasties" or "Stacys" is actually bitter jealousy that they can't ever have them

Yeah it really is the most backwards logic.

Nobody will have sex with me because I’m ugly!

What about x girl? No, she too ugly.

They just want to be able to have sex wth WHO they want, not just have sex. They consider any incel who meets a girl they like but isn't their idea of attractive "coping" when in reality it's just that person accepting that maybe they aren't gonna get with models, but the girl they have is still special to them.

You won't convince them. They have layer upon layer of mental gymnastics to convince themselves it's just their physical appearance that keeps them from finding a girl

It's true, if we had male model looks women would want us

Anybody who thinks girls and guys can't be friends because it's just sexual tension isn't a complete enough person to realize every woman isn't there for your sexual gratification, and that they are just people too.

Any woman who friendzones you and won't fuck you doesn't respect you, plus why would you want to stick around? So she can talk about all the guys she fucked to you? Fun

You won't convince them. They have layer upon layer of mental gymnastics to convince themselves it's just their physical appearance that keeps them from finding a girl

It's true, if we had male model looks women would want us

Nope they may want to get to know you, but if you still had this type of mindset they would be done as soon as a conversation happened.

Anybody who thinks girls and guys can't be friends because it's just sexual tension isn't a complete enough person to realize every woman isn't there for your sexual gratification, and that they are just people too.

Any woman who friendzones you and won't fuck you doesn't respect you, plus why would you want to stick around? So she can talk about all the guys she fucked to you? Fun

Because they can offer something to your life beyond sex, I know you bcccc ant understand that as a horny, desperate virgin, but they really can. They can help lift you up when your sad, share in your moments of triumph, you can share tears and laughter and not share a bed. I'm telling you it's possible because I have done it and I know plenty of guys that have done it.

Nope

Yes

they may want to get to know you, but if you still had this type of mindset they would be done as soon as a conversation happened.

The fact you think women actually care about a man's personality is laughable. If that were the case then why is Jeremy Meeks, Chris Brown and other abusive men doing so well with women?

Because they can offer something to your life beyond sex

Not really, women are very boring creatures tbh the highlight of their lives is watching Netflix and being used for their holes

I know you cant understand that as a horny, desperate virgin, but they really can.

Not a virgin so I guess according to you I really know what I'm talking about now

They can help lift you up when your sad

They do not do this at all lol, they find it gross when you're sad and annoying.

I'm telling you it's possible because I have done it and I know plenty of guys that have done it.

All those guys you're friends with would fuck you in a heartbeat if given the chance lol

Nope

Yes

they may want to get to know you, but if you still had this type of mindset they would be done as soon as a conversation happened.

The fact you think women actually care about a man's personality is laughable. If that were the case then why is Jeremy Meeks, Chris Brown and other abusive men doing so well with women?

Well let's start off here with saying this. I am a guy, I am not attractive, but I think I would be what you all call a normie, or Norman. I'm like maybe a a 5 on my best day, and I might be playing myself up. I have been with girls way beyond my range, a couple of girls were easily 7-8 range, because I could make them laugh and they enjoyed spending time with me.

Because they can offer something to your life beyond sex

Not really, women are very boring creatures tbh the highlight of their lives is watching Netflix and being used for their holes

And this mindset right here is why girls don't like you, they can feel that you think that way about them, they aren't dumb like you assume they are. And some are really fun to be around.

I know you cant understand that as a horny, desperate virgin, but they really can.

Not a virgin so I guess according to you I really know what I'm talking about now

So you've had sex and you are still such a sad pathetic person? There is no hope for you, I am truly sorry.

They can help lift you up when your sad

They do not do this at all lol, they find it gross when you're sad and annoying.

No I think they just find you gross, sad, and annoying in general regardless of your mood.

I'm telling you it's possible because I have done it and I know plenty of guys that have done it.

All those guys you're friends with would fuck you in a heartbeat if given the chance lol

Well I am the guy talking here, and can say there are girls I'm fends with I wouldn't fuck, mostly because I honestly enjoy their company, and sex would just complicate matters. Hell I've been friends with girls who liked me, and I didn't want them. You would honestly be suprised at how a bright, cheerful, casual personality completely changes how women see you.

Well let's start off here with saying this. I am a guy, I am not attractive, but I think I would be what you all call a normie, or Norman. I'm like maybe a a 5 on my best day, and I might be playing myself up. I have been with girls way beyond my range, a couple of girls were easily 7-8 range, because I could make them laugh and they enjoyed spending time with me.

Well for starters they were probably at your looksmatch but you just felt more attracted to them so you thought they were 8's but regardless that has nothing to do with what you are replying to

And this mindset right here is why girls don't like you,

Girls didn't like me before I had this mindset so no

they can feel that you think that way about them

LOL, same way they could "feel" not to hang around Ted Bundy and stay away from abusive men amiright? Drop the "female intuition" bullshit

they aren't dumb like you assume they are.

Yes they are

And some are really fun to be around.

If you like them talking about all the men they fucked and how they were """""raped"""""""

So you've had sex and you are still such a sad pathetic person? There is no hope for you, I am truly sorry.

Nah I feel sorry for you tbh

No I think they just find you gross, sad, and annoying

Well I'm ugly so that's a given

Well I am the guy talking here, and can say there are girls I'm friends with I wouldn't fuck

either low T, Faggot, or lying

mostly because I honestly enjoy their company

Fag tbh

You would honestly be suprised at how a bright, cheerful, casual personality completely changes how women see you.

I was bright, cheerful and casual at one point and women still viewed me the same

Well let's start off here with saying this. I am a guy, I am not attractive, but I think I would be what you all call a normie, or Norman. I'm like maybe a a 5 on my best day, and I might be playing myself up. I have been with girls way beyond my range, a couple of girls were easily 7-8 range, because I could make them laugh and they enjoyed spending time with me.

Well for starters they were probably at your looksmatch but you just felt more attracted to them so you thought they were 8's but regardless that has nothing to do with what you are replying to

Nope, because people would tell me they were out my league. Sure I got rejected by a lot of pretty girls, but I didn't blame them for not wanting to date someone they didn't find attractive, but also some said yes. It's a numbers game really, if you get hung up on every no you won't realize that if you keep pushing you can find a yes.

And this mindset right here is why girls don't like you,

Girls didn't like me before I had this mindset so no

they can feel that you think that way about them

LOL, same way they could "feel" not to hang around Ted Bundy and stay away from abusive men amiright? Drop the "female intuition" bullshit

There is a remarkable difference between a basic mysogonistic person and a murderous sociopath. A sociopath is often very charismatic, because they feel so empty they can feign any emotion. Ted Bundy wasn't just good looking, he was noted to be extremely charismatic.

they aren't dumb like you assume they are.

Yes they are

Case in point on why girls won't like you.

And some are really fun to be around.

If you like them talking about all the men they fucked and how they were """""raped"""""""

Yep I can clearly see how many girls you've talked with this comment, maybe like one feminist.

So you've had sex and you are still such a sad pathetic person? There is no hope for you, I am truly sorry.

Nah I feel sorry for you tbh

Don't, I enjoy my life, don't feel constant misery and bitterness over lack of sex, and enjoy time spent with women both romantically and plutonically.

No I think they just find you gross, sad, and annoying

Well I'm ugly so that's a given

On the inside and out.

Well I am the guy talking here, and can say there are girls I'm friends with I wouldn't fuck

either low T, Faggot, or lying

Or you know just somebody who sees women as more than a vagina with a mouth.

mostly because I honestly enjoy their company

Fag tbh

Such a fag to want to be around women, clearly.

You would honestly be suprised at how a bright, cheerful, casual personality completely changes how women see you.

I was bright, cheerful and casual at one point and women still viewed me the same

Well then it sucks to be you, but have you ever tried dating a women you consider to be "ugly"?

Nope

Yes

because people would tell me they were out my league.

Well a 5/10 woman is out of the league of a 5/10 man in the post tinder society

Sure I got rejected by a lot of pretty girls

I can tell

It's a numbers game really

The fact you say this like it's breaking news shows how retarded you are lol

There is a remarkable difference between a basic mysogonistic person and a murderous sociopath.

Ahh love this excuse lol, guess those female senses are just bullshit then :p

Case in point on why girls won't like you.

They didn't like me before I started thinking like this so no

Yep I can clearly see how many girls you've talked with this comment, maybe like one feminist.

Tons of online roasts and okcupid/tinder whores

Don't, I enjoy my life, don't feel constant misery and bitterness over lack of sex, and enjoy time spent with women both romantically and plutonically.

No happy healthy person comments in the incel sphere in reddit. Posting as an incel or someone against them

On the inside and out.

Almost like people treated like shit their whole life for things out of their control will turn bitter hmmmm

Or you know just somebody who sees women as more than a vagina with a mouth.

So a fag?

Such a fag to want to be around women, clearly.

Yeah and not fuck them even though he "totally has the opportunity"

Well then it sucks to be you, but have you ever tried dating a women you consider to be "ugly"?

Yes

Ok rather than go through your whole post piece by piece again I'll answer it all as one.

Sex is not the end all be all of life. Hell it's not even the best part of a relationship. The feeling of being together, knowing you make somebody's day brighter by being in it, sharing your troubles with your partner and them sharing theirs with you. These are the brightest parts.

And you can have a lesser version of that with girls without being with them, that's called friendship. I don't want to fuck them because I don't like them like that, I just enjoy their personality, have fun spending time with them. Maybe some would fuck me, maybe some wouldn't it doesn't really matter.

But if you have the notion that girls are dumb, they are lesser, and only good for sex it will poison your persona. You say they can't see it, but they can, because you act like they are lesser, even if you don't realize it you do.

Sure maybe you met some shallow people growing up, but it's a great big world out there and plenty of people aren't that way.

But no stay here in your echo chamber, clearly you have such opportunities to better yourself here. I'm here because I found this sub and quote honestly it's a riot, but I used to feel a little like this myself in my darkest hour. That the world was unfair, and that attractive people held all the cards. Then I realized that's only true if you think like that, and I went working on myself tull I could find my own happiness.

Sex is not the end all be all of life

That's your opinion you mong

Hell it's not even the best part of a relationship.

I agree

And you can have a lesser version of that with girls without being with them

No you cannot

Well I'm telling you I have, so even if you personally can't, self respecting guys can.

If you actually think a female makes any good conversation you're probably just as retarded as them

Ah there's the mysogonistic views. Been waiting for them to rear their head. Do you think you are some goldmine of intellectual or interesting conversation

Spoiler Alert: you aren't.

Ah there's the mysogonistic views. Been waiting for them to rear their head.

They were reared earlier but okay

Do you think you are some goldmine of intellectual or interesting conversation

Yes

I feel like at this point us both being brick walls in this argument will lead nowhere. Want to try and find some common ground we can agree on?

I don't want to talk to you so no

Because you have nothing actually interesting or to say?

Because I'm bored talking with you

Aww and I thought we were just starting to get along :(

And you can't choose whether to feel desperate for love or not. It just happens.

That is obviously not true and you know it.

Think from the opposite perspective: have you really wanted to fuck every single one of your female friends? Have you never made friends with girls that were not sexually attractive to you?

For these girls, what you just said is false. Non-sexual friendships can exist between guys and girls. Not every girl is a fuckable stacy and not every guy is so horny/desperate that they'll fuck anyone.

She's not entitled to your friendship, ghost her.

Shes a pro at sex remember, youre like a fan in the stands to trying to actually play when she just wants to chill

Maybe get a haircut and have a shower to level up your personality and try the exact same joke again. Embrace the grind.

Hahahaha

Both of those things are basic activities that you SHOULD be doing regularly. For the love of everything good, take a damn shower

No shit. People make fun of the shower meme because it's ridiculous how people like you think we don't shower. We live in such different realities that you literally think that to be in our position you have to be an absolute waste to the point of never showering.

Not everyone. Just checking up incase ya weren't.

Why are you friends with a Stacy?

If you’re sub2 then she’s called the cops already, I know from experience.

DONT TALK TO GIRLS.

IN THIS ERA OF #METOO EVEN TALKING TO GIRLS IS A RISK.

Sex, with a significant Other is off-limits to Stacy, don't rope, but she's waiting for enough inches.

You literally have to NEVER talk to her again if you even have an ounce of self respect left

She probably gets deepthroated and anally fucked by Chad, but when an unattractive man even makes a mildy sexual reference it's creepy.

This is all there is to it. Foids are disgusting whore but only with chad

Tell her to shut up. Just because you're incel it does not mean you are not a man.

I know that feeling, I used to have a female friend in high school that told me she won't talk to me anymore if I kept joking about sex because sex jokes are not ok. This was the highly promiscuous type of girl that lost her virginity at 13 and that had a different boyfriend every other month. Lmao.

Strip that bitch naked and sell her into sexual slavery like the Mongols. Or the Persians. Or the Africans. Or the Romans. Or the Greeks. Literally anyone.

I was gonna say this.

Of course, fuck her before you sell her.

lol we wouldn’t have 90% of the bitching from birches if sexual slavery still existed. If that bitch complains you just sell her. The fuck is she gonna do? Run? With those chicken legs? I don’t think so.

yeah this is pretty typical. You’re allowed to exist in normies’ worlds as long as you don’t gross them out by reminding them that ugly people wamt sex and love too.

Don't associate with anyone who can't see you as a complete person.

Yo, maybe she'll come around in time. Every now and then, friends become lovers. I wouldn't write "Stacy" off just yet. Sounds like that joke was only Strike 1, don't break the bat just yet. Keep swinging, homie.

Do it anyway.

Just take a shower beforehand

That’s what the friend zone almost always is; complete emasculation. She doesn’t see you as a sexual being. Sexuality from you (either advances or comments) is only creepy insofar as it doesn’t register in her brain on a subconscious level that you have a dick and want to fuck.

It’s the same reason she will never set you up with a female friend. Coincidentally that speaks volumes of any male/female friendship. If you knew a single girl you weren’t interested in sexually, wouldn’t you set her up with a male friend?

Do you think getting femoid friends can be useful because it is good practice talking to roasties? I'm sure a beta orbiting a roastie will have superior social skills with women to a guy that has no female friends.

No. The entire paradigm of a woman who’s interested in you as a possible sexual partner is different than someone who considers you a eunuch. Female friends who don’t see you as a sexual being and don’t actually value your friendship aren’t worth anything. The italicized part is an important dinstinction for the autists.

Need terrible advice? Ask a runt. My advice as a professional blue-pill beta runt (that's a few steps below where a cuck would be because at least cucks have a girlfriend -- that joke's for free):

You might consider politely apologizing and saying something such as "I only told that one because I thought it would get a laugh." They won't ever actually believe that men tell dark or dirty jokes on account of the jokes themselves being funny. Oh never, it's absolutely the individual's psychology that drives their humor as far as they're concerned. Maybe mix in a self-deprecating joke once in a while and have a laugh at your own expense. Also apologize when asked and try to empathize with her feelings when she feels like the joke fell into awkward moment or TMI territory. Maybe if you're lucky she'll still smile in your general direction on the odd occasion.

It's altogether too clear that the most that Stacy has to offer you is her friendship. In her eyes, this friendship is a sweet deal and she doesn't extend it out to just anybody. I think she wants to be kind and caring to you because you're not like all those other guys.

When a girl says or acts in this "you're just too nice for me" way, what I think she means is "dang, it's too bad you're not a walking piece of human garbage like all those other guys, because then I wouldn't mind treating you like one so much." You can either take pride in the fact that you're a good and honorable person, or you can go full on 50-cent and just "smack that and tap that." If you're a runt like me, neither of those options will get you anywhere with women, so just do what you want to do with your life and don't worry so much about what kind of reaction you illicit from other people.

you are absolute human garbage. your whole way of thinking isn't just "betacuck", we don't hate you for not thinking masculine enough like feminists try to brainwash you into believing. you are simply WRONG. it's not what she is thinking nor is that what he should be doing at all, not even close.

This is why I usually avoid online encounters with people. They can't sense the sarcasm in my responses. Instead of calling names and shouting WRONG, you could choose to point and laugh if you like. It wouldn't hurt either if you wanted to post a comment constructively explaining what's RIGHT because men aren't psychics and we actually don't know how women think nor will I ever understand them.

Sorry about the confusion there; I was trying to do a joke rant. I DID say it was terrible advice … so my bad if it wasn't clear enough.

Notice how she’s assuming that “her image of you” is sooooo important. And it is important to beta orbiters. Chad however does not care and no femoid would ever tell him such a thing.

orbital distance

JFL. I can't get enough of this sub

Don't talk to her ever again!

I love how you won't answer whay the joke was, because it was definitely directed at her specifically, but that wouldn't fit your narrative would it?

Ok I'll take you on your word that was the joke, in which case she is cunt. That is such a harmless joke that she showed more about her own mental problems more than her dislike for you by taking that so seriously.

Sorry man that shit rough.

You can't just write this up without telling us what the joke was

Bro just hold your frame it's a shit test, start spinning actual plates at home for practice

lololol

Stacy sounds immature - unless she's a coworker, in which case I wouldn't. Point being, maybe it's not about you. Just bc she's not interested and she isn't looking past the physical.

That's ok. It's still not your fault she is like that. Forget her. You don't need that. You're brutalizing yourself.

It doesn't have to reflect on you at all. Your appearance or otherwise. If it makes you feel any better I have said the same things, (and much worse) to absolute Chads.

I almost laughed when I saw this response. Yes, for fun. I don't do it, anymore - I reject everyone equally in favor of my (absolutely NON-Chad) boyfriend. As example, I was talking to him on the phone, laughing about doing this a few times that week and he hung up on me. I was like, "How DARE you hang up on me?"; I couldn't see anything I had done that would make him upset. It was bc he took it as if I was being manipulative, trying to make him jelly, but bc I was so used to doing stuff like that (wi my ex, who was a Chad - exchanging those anecdotes about rejecting Stacys and Chads - in that relationship it was just a mutual bolstering of ego) that I thought he would find it funny, too. He told me no one, in twelve years, before me had come onto him. I was floored. I'm a narcissist in recovery.

No, the Chad was my ex - my boyfriend now is the non-Chad

Point is, don't let the Stacys put you in your place, they don't know what your place and it teaches them how to treat you when you cow down to it. That's from someone who knows. Before I knew the word "orbiter" I used to call them "puppies" - how demeaning is that? (BC acting like a needy little cute puppy I could train) - and I even bragged about it. I'm ashamed of this, now. I know I missed out on at least one great relationship bc I sensed he was too submissive to me, he was hilarious and had an amazing personality and could easily have been a Chad, but I ordered him around like a puppy. I'm not saying you should be dominating, but draw personal boundaries and like I said, teach people how to treat you. Don't let them walk over you or anything about you. You don't have to be aggressive (my bf is very much a pacifist and an introvert) but it's so hot that he has confidence (through years of therapy - he didn't start out that way) - and he's the dom in our relationship. You just have to know when to ignore and when to speak up and do it.

I was just banned from other subreddits just for commenting here - like wtf

Sexual jokes are annoying if you say them too much

Again, I'm not afraid of women I'm afraid of the people who believe them and will lie for them, which is most people.

Weinstein, Morgan Freeman and the rest of them say hi. It’s not that straight forward as ‘stand up for yourself’, when the repercussions could be devastating.