Inceltears and any other dickhead who chooses to bully anyone are just small men with fragile egos. Bullies aren’t dominant people like they think they are. They’re weak and pathetic.

You're right, just like everyone here who wastes their days away holding "femoids" in contempt, even for things they argue are entirely natural for them to do, and repelling women away from them with their self loathing and hatred for everyone who looks like they're doing better than them.

???

i think you're confused, the reason why people post here is because they're ugly, and nothing can fix that (except a lot of $), so those ugly losers you saw in real life gather on here to discuss looks theory and aesthetics, also memes to help with their shitty lives.

A long term friend of mine is smaller framed than me, average in the face, and the last 2 years has struggled financially, he has no problem getting laid and attracting women who are interested in him because he's an engaging speaker and confident in what he does and what he has to offer to the world.

average in the face

well no shit he has no problem getting laid, you didn't think people on this subreddit are average did you? people who post here are ugly (under 3/10).

you didn't think people on this subreddit are average did you?

The one image I saw of an incel posted in this forum today was of a completely normal looking dude. I've seen some pictures of incels and I totally get it. I've also seen pictures of incels (alot actually) where I am like WTF dude you look completely normal. I think some members of this community have just convinced themselves if they aren't chad, they are incel.

the only "incels" who post their pics do it for validation, they know they're average to good looking to pos their pictures and fish for "omg fakecel you're not ugly" comments, no actual incel is good looking, only good looking dudes post their pics (hence lookism).

the x/10 scale is so nebulous and next to meaningless, there was a totally average looking guy who went from chubby to fit in one of those before/after shots and there were some dudes who insisted he was "hideous" and reaffirms how pointless it is for incels to work out.

I've seen people try to call completely average or somewhat cute looking girls they have some sort of thing against (imagining they are their caricature of a self unaware feminist often enough) an ugly sub 3/10 troll.

Looks matter to girls, therefore the x/10 scale is not "meaningless"

Have you seen the movie mask? (the one with Cher not Jim Carey). Can you look at that guy and honestly tell me personality, charisma and confidence would get that dude a girlfriend.

Don't get me wrong, I think a chunk of the incel community is delusional as I have seen a number of incel image dumps and have seen alot of very typical looking men. However some of them, saying "confidence, personality" etc. is laughable. If you claim that would work you are simply trying to be nice.

Hey, tsdobbi, just a quick heads-up:
alot is actually spelled a lot. You can remember it by it is one lot, 'a lot'.
Have a nice day!

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To be fair, we can override natural proclivities with discipline and effort. That's what makes humans capable of great feats.

The problem is that now we're only seeing one side having that discipline necessary to acheive this and the other side being entitled and just taking more and more, which kinda fucks up the whole system. I'll leave it to you to figure out which.

I wonder (((who))) could be behind this social engineering though.

Hey, A1C_SubZero, just a quick heads-up:
acheive is actually spelled achieve. You can remember it by i before e.
Have a nice day!

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Yeah totally if only men started taking responsibility for all the rage and hatred they feel to people they feel owe them something, maybe women would be even more open to loving and intimacy than they already are! Good points

Go to r/theredpill and browse there a little while. It's full of men who get laid while also saying all women cheat (they came up with the word AWALT), want to be dominated and that they should be treated like children. They also speak of hypergamy and the need for men to make more effort to get laid while women don't need to dk anything. Pretty much all are core blackpill. But they get laid, they get women even while believing these facts to be true. They may not be angry and raging but they certainly have a disdain for women.

lol my guy you're talking to me like I'm not intimately familiar with the whole Manosphere

They may not be angry and raging but they certainly have a disdain for women.

Most of the guys there are just like the bitter angry dwellers here, but haven't formally "given up" but still talk about how they struggle with intimacy even after applying redpill practices (because the malicious practices they advocate are less effective than standard pickup and net you some of the most emotionally damaged insecure women out there, reaffirming their pseudoscientific beliefs about women and that AWALT, because they repel quality women and humans in general with RedPill nonsense.

I am more sexually successful, in terms of number and consistency of sexual partners, than 90% of the browsers there, guaranteed.

People who bully ugly/short/disabled people because they can't find a girlfriend are just as disgusting as people who bully a rape victim.

There are definitely dominant bullies. People who have everything and probably don't even think about the fact that they do it. But then, there also people like this. Extremely weak people who manifest their insecurities by pretending to be above others, when they themselves know they are not.

If you wouldn´t bang her you´re volcel.

PERFECT

What statistics? I don’t see any statistics, just anecdotes.

r/Blackpillscience

And allot of times that one person doesn't even exist. The inceltears person is probably just figuring that their had to be someone who fits what their talking about

Yeah. They probably figure out of the 10 billion people on earth, one has to be a ugly 5'2 Indian who's dating a 10/10. They claim they are friends with him. I Sure their is ONE guy on earth like that, it's just everyone on inceltears is using the same guy as their "friend" lol

Yeah. They probably figure out of the 10 billion people on earth, one has to be a ugly 5'2 Indian who's dating a 10/10. They claim they are friends with him. I Sure their is ONE guy on earth like that, it's just everyone on inceltears is using the same guy as their "friend" lol

lol no one is claiming men of relatively low social value who are not traditionally attractive are having sex with a harem of beautiful women. Guys who have issues but know how to have fun and go dancing and genuinely want to have fun and share in the fun with those around them on the other hand can def have plenty of fleeting encounters with beautiful women.

Source? Who is "they" some dude you argued with on the internet once who was trying to contradict you?

haha what does LARP have to do with anything? But yeah i guess it's better to work at a job where you're disrespected and go home and browse reddit where you go to reaffirm your contempt for society and repeat the cycle the next day. People who talk about having "fun" and enjoying yourself and having fulfilling moments where you're living life authentically the way you want to be are just dim witted Chads and Stacies going out climbing mountains and seeing exotic cultures across the world like any of that matters

Climbing mountains and traveling is not that far outside the realm of most people's possibilities.

maybe if you're a boomer or pampered by boomer parents that's true

I am in fact the kid of well off boomers, but the most prolific travelers I know aren't rich at all. It's just what they like to do. A bunch of my more blue collar friends decided they didn't like the scene here so they moved to Colorado. To climb mountains. Travel is easier for some than others, but it's not the territory of only "social media stars."

These guys are basically communicating they think adventure and fulfilling new experiences are for some elite class of "social media stars" they view as something they could never do or be and resentfully view and dismiss from afar.

I suspect a lot of times, they think because they had a temporary dry spell in high school they think they've walked in our shoes and can give us advice, sometimes they may be exaggerating or even just flat out lying so gain leverage in an argument.

I suspect a lot of times, they think because they had a temporary dry spell in high school

You aren't wrong. I fall into that category. The thing is I was really fat when I was younger and was a social outcast and obviously couldnt get laid if my life depended on it. I knew with work and effort I could change that though and I did, I understand many incels have an issue that isnt so easily fixed. Before I went away to college I dropped the weight, and honestly going to a place nobody knew me before it was a whole different world. I was 19 when I went away to college and literally lost my virginity the first weekend there. I joined the Army NG in college too, got into even better shape. I was a straight up chad from 20-25. Literally wasn't even a question if I would end up with a girl going out to the bar or a house party. I have a pretty attractive face I will admit that. Which has kept me competitive in my 30's after putting some weight back on after I got out of the Army and thinning hair.

Yeah that and the constant (overt and covert) shaming, mocking, ridiculing, bullying (and despite popular perception, admitting to bullying deosn't make a man weak, a man could be the toughest sob in the entire place but he's still one man against a hoard, also there are different kinds of bullying, not all direct and physical). So many of the "nice" people (even family members and shit) talk to me like I am a child, I am 38 and fully independent.... I could keep on all day with this though.

Honestly, I cope through smoking weed and going hermit, I get drunk on the liquor bottle a few times a week. And I live the hermit life. Bury myself in research, and in hobbies. I've got Aspergers, this can't really be undone (I have beaten the odds a couple of times in my 20's but I've been back to being incel ever since, neither of those relationships lasted longer than a month, the first one I had to leave (long story)). Ofc what I did then would never work today.

The reverse is also true.

Statistics has to be one of the most misunderstood things in the world.

Some people just do not get it.

"90% of shark attacks happen in shallow water. No shit, thats where the people are."

I know plenty of bald Indian janitors that get tons of pussy

I have this one friend who's a 1/10 and not incel because he respects women! They love his personality and confidence to play D&D and LoL. He's still a virgin, but everyone loves him.

D&D is pretty mainstream now.

Have you been to r/cuckold?

Unsure how that is related.

"This is why you're incel, teehee"

And every single time you point out that the vast majority of men are not incel and are having sex and relationships...

Incel: Look at our Tinder studies!!!! Disproven!!! Cuck!!!!

Most men don't have the problems that you all claim are universal to modern dating. The world simply isn't the way incels describe it. Men everywhere are fucking. If you aren't, don't blame women and claim that all men are actually in the same boat as you. We aren't.

But 60% of women aged 18-35 are shared by 20% of men in the same group, how could all men be having sex if the 80% are sharing the remaining 40%?

I'd love to see the statistics for that.

By the way, your OkCupid stats or any Tinder experiments don't count.

So what does a reputable research organization have to say about this?

I suspect I'll be waiting a very long time considering you just pulled those numbers out of your ass, and you know it.

No-one blames women you moron. The blame is on losing the genetic lottery. Incels dont expect women to be attracted to them. For the sake of all our brain cells please just stop posting

Based

Every time I talk to one of them I want to bang my head against a wall

Yeah, I'm done arguing with these people. Let them stew in their willful ignorance.

My eyes are open, and these fuckheads want to indoctrinate you back into closing them.

Lol.

same could be same of /r/braincels

Ewww

they'll squawk 'source' and if you provide them with source they either disappear or twist it irrationally to some bizarre conclusion, then you'll see them again later squawking 'source?' about the same shit. these people have zero interest in a debate about the truth, they just want to shut down, shout out and silence any opposition.

If someone tells you exceptions exist then its obviously the case that they respect your potential enough to assume you could be exceptional as well.

This is literally you guys though lol

IncelTears: Look I'm helping by arguing! Here's some made up anecdotal evidence.

Incels: Fuck off

IncelTears: Omg why won't you accept my empathy?

D&D is pretty mainstream now.