I did a Tinder experiment about a year ago before the atomic blackpill was released. Here are the results.

611  2018-05-23 by TruthInBlack

About a year ago, before the atomic blackpill was released, I used Tinder and Bumble with a Chad profile. I was going to do it for a week but this blackpill is just so bitter when you are experiencing it yourself, so I only did it for 3 days. Since I live in a college town, and most of the roasties here are college aged, I decided to gather data from 3 different cities over the 3 days that have femoids who aren't just between 18-22. I set my age range on both apps at 18-35 and I messaged femoids all throughout that age range.

 

These were the pictures that I used. I used various combinations of pictures but the picture with the dog was always my first picture. I named the guy Alec, because Alec is a fuckboy name and femoids love him. Also, Chad may have been too obvious.

 

During the 3 days hundreds swiped right on me. On Bumble, you can see how many femoids have swiped right on you who you did not match with. This number his 70 at one point. There were so many matches that I just couldn't keep up with all of them. I messaged only a fraction of the femoids I matched with.

 

Most femoids did not care about what I said. They were only concerned about the guy's looks. All of you already know that. I was able to get numbers from most of the femoids who I messaged. Some took a few more messages but eventually almost all of them came around, even though they knew I was only interested in sex.

 

When a femoid says that she isn't interested in sex, this just means that she needs the right Chad to come along and change her mind.

 

When I was doing this, I didn't want to make things too easy for Chad Alec. So I made my bio make me look as "creepy" and unappealing as possible. I learned 2 things. Most femoids don't even look at the bio. Only the pictures matter. Also, when they do look at the bio, they don't care about it at all. For example, when my bio said

6'2". I like women because they make my pee pee feel good.

this is how femoids reacted. There was at least one other femoid who reacted this way.

When my profile said

"6'2". Most of you can't cook, clean, or look after kids but I will gracefully accept the one thing you have to offer, which is your pussy. I will humiliate you by shoving my cock down your throat and cumming in your mouth and you'll like it."

(courtesy of /u/Incel910. I'm not sure if he's still around.)

this is how a femoid reacted. The irony here is even more painful because she is a single mother, a literal drain on society.

 

Eventually, I became tired of messaging these dumb bitches, so I decided to use one crude line to see how far it would take me. Here you go.

 

Femoids are truly degenerate. None are innocent like we were once led to believe. As I'm typing this I'm getting more messages from femoids agreeing to "pizza and fucking". This is truly disgusting. I will upload more screenshots if I have the chance but I am deleting these profiles soon. I have witnessed more than enough degeneracy over the past 3 days.

532 comments

Why is this not upvoted?

Sadly, it's not memey enough. This new chapter of inceldom is 6/10!

If you think you're a 6/10 incel, then I hate to break it to you...but you're not a 6/10.

Where the hell did that conclusion come from?

What do you mean by "The new chapter of inceldom is 6/10"? - It reads as if you're saying that 6/10 guys are incels these days?

A 6/10 isn't an incel, they're just lazy/incompetent/volcels.

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Because it's pathetic as hell to create a fake profile, lie to people, all to get some biased evidence from a hookup app? Jesus...if this person put that much effort into loving himself, I bet he'd be a much better person.

True, but he won't. Little slime probably is preoccupied with rubbing Mama's feet, especially in-between the toes, and around the ankles. To life like? I thought it was accurately put lol.

Who cares if its pathetic to you? Gtfo.

It's pathetic behavior. I hope you grow out of this.

I think it's pathetic that all these women would fuck a guy without knowing anything about him, even after explicitly saying they're not looking for hookups and also because his fucking pick up line is about eating pizza.

wow ust love yourself and your facial bone structure will change bro. FUCK OFF.

Um no.....spend more time loving yourself instead of wasting time making fake profiles on dating apps. If someone said to you "How was your weekend?" and the response was "i've been busy creating fake profiles on dating/hookup apps to ruin my self esteem!"...you'd be (rightly) viewed as someone with severe mental issues.

Yes dude because this will be certainly the answer a person will give when asked how was his weekend. The greater misconcenptions of you fuckers is to think that incels act IRL like they act here. Just read my post history, if I acted like this IRL I'd never bang all the chicks i've banged (unless if I were very attractive because women don't give a fuck about attractive guys behaviour)

You’re looking on the apps specifically made for people who only want sex. Of course you are going to get responses from women who only care about appearances and sex.

So if incels want to have sex, they need only to go on Tinder and be attractive.

Have you tried having a shower?

Should the shower have a therapist?

I mean I would recommend okcupid if you want a relationship

Okcupid is the same thing. I've tried it with my regular picture (no interest or dates) and then an attractive guy's, where I was spammed with interest. Not worth wasting your time.

👌

lmao. Been there 200 messages and 5-6 messages because some of the funny lines I tried got a chuckle and then ghosted in 2 replies by those foids who decided to engage. With tinder, 0 matches.

I suppose I shouldn’t just assume it’s better on a different app. I’ve never been on tinder, and my roommate used okcupid and the questions were cool. But then again, none of her matches panned out either. I retract my statement.

The sexism and creepiness wasn't a turn-off?

They certainly should be. But some people just don’t give a shit apparently.

"some"

I mean, I could say “many” but I would want to see the statistics. Some is arbitrary enough; anything more specific would need evidence.

True. I'll try and find some.

In the meantime, Fifty Shades of Grey and Twilight were written by women, for women. The former was condemned by actual BDSM members for going too far. The latter was the story of a creepy, obsessed stalker many times the age of his love.

Both have sold millions and millions of copies and multiple films have been made.

Fifty shades of grey was the worst book I’ve ever read an excerpt from. It sounds like it was written by a sixth grader. All the sex-starved mommies who liked it are as idiotic as they are deprived. The movie was less bad just because you didn’t have to read the godawful writing... But what I learned from that craze is that idiocy is prevalent. Didn’t really need more confirmation, but there it is.

The Twilight movies were shit, but the books were just standard teen romance. It’s an awkward shy girl being shown attention by a supernatural creature. She’s flattered and floored that somebody wants her and the story satisfies the protection desires of most females. It’s not particularly telling.

I don’t think you can measure much of anything based on these two examples. That women like sex and romance, I guess.

What's the primary romcom demo?

I am not sure exactly what you mean by that

It's over lmao. Both of those are about dangerous, dominant males who get away with a lot of creepy and sketchy shit because they're hot.

Fifty Shades of Grey should be condemned by everyone for many reasons. The twilight books are just the standard modern fairytale but with the prince being slightly of a darker nature and then usual.

Please don’t bring up feminists though, they will find a way to bitch about literally everything.

Sex and romance.

Lmaooo

Some? Hnmmmmmmm

you have no case

im not an incel but i browse because some of these posts are pretty entertaining.

you are fucking stupid. plenty of people on these apps are looking for actual dating. just check /r/tinder if you dont want to go through the trouble of looking through tinder itself.

people on there trying with all these witty bios, opening lines, which pictures to put and in which order, getting advice from others.

meanwhile put a bunch of pics of this guy, be a complete fucking degenerate and not even try to hide it, and get their # anyway.

The percentage of people who just want to get laid on tinder vs okcupid are definitely different.

the men want relationships, the women all want sex with chad

That has not been true in my experience. But maybe we each only have half of the picture.

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep better. Tinder is a casual sex app first, second, and third. Dating app fourth.

Gigantic cope, keep telling yourself that

none of that applies to incels.

U got eviscerated.

"I dont usually do this" must have been your warm personality bro

Yeah, my offers of pizza and sex made me seem like a funny and likable guy.

Indian janitor could have done the same with his pictures.

I don’t get it. I understand it. But I don’t get it.

Why are Indians disliked? Is it cuz the skin is not white? The heavy accent? Just short? What is it?

Sexually or socially?

I want all the details.

The Indian population is a tiny minority in most of the west. Indians are shorter than the average height and have different facial features and colouring from the average person (who is white). Therefore Indians are less attractive than average because people prefer the "normal".

This leads to Indians having less sex and relationships. Also the halo effect interferes with their social standing.

Obviously this is generalization and some Indians are attractive but thats not the overall case. I say this as an Indian btw.

Dravidian features are rather... well they’re not as streamlined as aryan features. Dravidians tend to be more round and I find that just unattractive.

Now socially, Indians have the worst of accents. I imitated it to a woman I met once and she told me, “stop please. You’re cool. Don’t do that.”

I literally could not contain myself. Top it all off, I’m Indian.

I’m not Dravidian looking, I have some Dravidian features. My ancestry is.. let’s just say it, I’m the descendent of Muslim Arabs.

Pictures?

I don’t do requests.

How I am supposed to confirm what you say you are then? if you don’t face pictures then do a hand/arm/ picture I am genuinely curious about how your skin looks

Its not bad socially. Sexually its bad. We are usually short and a lot of our features are masculine but weird.

It is a dozen things.

What are a few things that stick in your side?

Everything and everyone.

Indians are not sexy cause they are percieved as beta Nice Guys

Bit of a selection bias? You're on an app famous for hookups, and had fuckboi af pictures. I know plenty of girls that make fun of these 'fuckboy' looking profiles. So obviously the ones who swiped right wanted a quick thing. Shows that people like that exist (which no one ever doubted), but not that every girl is like that.

Very potent blackpill, should be up there with the better ones.

Also wtf why are whamen such total whores ?! How the fuck should I find a wife that doesnn’t have a nasty ass past?!

U dot

umm these are just whores on tinder, nothing surprising here. also while i'm at it, i'd like to point out that guys are shallow too, which for some reason doesn't get brought up in these discussions. so human beings are shallow, and you're not really bitter about that, more like bitter over not being chad yourselves

No bro it’s just bad that women all fucked 100 guys atleast before settling ?? No self respecting man wants that lollll

i think u guys may be too soft for this world :/ " And the meak shall rule the earth"... it's all prophecy! I can't believe women want to have sex with a college baseball star who looks like a model!!

The meek will inherit shit.

God meants Meeks, not meek.

How the fuck should I find a wife that doesnn’t have a nasty ass past?!

" I can't believe women have had sex before! Why wouldn't they remain a virgin on the chance that they meet ME! :( ...

It's like people are living their life and not even considering your feelings!! What assholes :( Life is unfair :( /u/Chadbutblackpilled

It’s like

Stop right there son

"How dare those meanie mean girls date men :( stoopid skanks :'( ... DONT THESE ROASTIES KNOW IM HERE TOO!! IN MY ROOM! MASTURBAITING TO RAPE PORN BECAUSE FUCK FEMBOTS :'( " - This sub

Wow relax bro, breath deeply. All I’m saying is I don’t want a women that used to be a slut to be my wife. Feel free to disagree bro. No need to get all weird here! Just relax friend

You know vaginas dont just lose elasticity due to having a lot of sex, vaginas dont just get loose lmao. They aren't like a tree where you can count the rings to see how old and used they are. There is no dick residue that stays inside a woman.... so with that said I'm wondering why do you give a fuck if a woman was whatever the fuck your definition of slut is?

Is your wife an ex slut? Is that why you're so defensive? Because honestly I bet 100% of this sub would want a gf with little to no sexual history. But let me guess, our standards are "too high" and we should lower them right? I wonder if you'd say the same to a fat girl complaining that "there's no good men left" 🤔

Lol well don’t hold your breath bud! Keep holding out for that lady with no sexual history 😂

I said little to none, you having trouble reading there champ?

My statement still applies lol. Only way you’ll ever get a woman (which you won’t ever in any aspect) with little to no sex history is when she lies to you about it.

But I have? I think you're projecting too much buddy did I hit a nerve or something?

Hahahaha the guy that made a fake tinder profile to see what it’s like to be liked says I’m projecting hahaha.

I think it's time for you to log off chief because I can see that a couple of words on a screen have obviously pissed you off and you're obviously upset

Yeh that’s the problem bro we know that is why we complain about it lol? Stop being so low iq your not even making a point here

You’re *

I love how you call me low IQ... then the very next word is misspelled 😂

Women are fucking trash

Well because having sex with people creates a connection, you share something weird I can’t explain but when I see a girl I’ve had sex with there’s always this weird tension. Now imagine you are walking to get groceries with your wife and you see 5 random dudes, all of which she slept with and you prolly dont even know ?!! Or even worse she slept with friends/colleagues before and you dont know about it. It’s about your honor as a man dude not about the fucking elasticity which i never said either you fucning autist. Life is about more then just practical things you know emotional value and stuff you fucking turbo autist gtfo

Aren't Slavic girls considerably less degenerate? Or do you live in West?

I live in france now and its shit

GET AN ALGERIAN OR NORTH AFRICAN GIRL THEY ARE LEES DEGENERATE

Slavic girls aren't less degenerate, as a Slavcel can confirm.

wow you're really triggered aren't you?

Oh yeah so much

Western civilization is fucked

The world burns

Lmao you are SEETHING, the amount of butthurt from this post is insane.

Lmao

wife that doesnn’t have a nasty ass past

Not today, son. Not tomorrow either.

Plenty of awkward girls who don't go for casual sex because reasons.

Or you could join some strict church and marry within it.

Just pretend to be religious, bruh.

You literally have to marry a 12 year old to not get a whore. And she'll eventually become one.

Join a church, I know many women who are saving themselves, but just know that they do oral, and sometimes anal.

It's over. step 1 be attractive. step 2 don't be ugly.

And don't be average looking either. ONS, FWBs and STRs are only for Chads.

Good stuff

lol at that slut "not everybody deserves her cunt"

Girls using app designed for causal sex want to have casual sex with attractive men.

News at 11.

22 million users, N of that size could be used to generalize entire human population.

Thanks for playing.

I have no idea what you're trying to say.

Then you're fucking retarded or wilfully missing the point

The point is AWALT

AWALT THE WHOLE WAY DOWNNN

All women want casual sex with attractive men?

Wow, that's some eye opening shit right there. Fucking event horizon pill.

Comparing selling cars to fostering interpersonal intimate communication is in the league of retardedness of its' own.

Yeah, that's not what I said at all. I'm simply applying his logic to another application that was built for a specific purpose.

Except neither Bumble nor Tinder weren't created as hook-up apps.

Tinder was literally created as a hookup app.

Bumble followed footsteps and tried to get the people looking for a real relationship. It's all shallow and is serves best as hook up apps.

Tinder was literally created as a hookup app. It was ruined by people looking for relationships.

Do you have a proof of this?

When it came out it was marketed as Grindr for straight people. If you don't remember the original marketing then I'm not sure where to point you.

While you're correct about Grindr, both apps are technically meeting apps. They were not expressly marketed as hook-up apps, point especially moot after stories of marriages by people met on Tinder began to appear.

So beta

Beta

It's dishonest to add additional text after you post a message. It makes me look dumber as if I'm avoiding your points.

Nothing I edited in my comment would have affected your reply.

That 22 million people are enough to make a statement about the entire population.

Er, no you can't because it's a non-random sample. If I surveyed users of hospice care I would find that life expectancy was way less than five years.

True randomness is impossible to achieve, however, I don't seem to recall if true randomness is used outside of math.

Well, in a mathematical sense true randomness is unachievable by any method for obvious reasons. For research a large random (quasi-random, for example drawn by a random number generator) sample is second only to a census, but as a practical matter you generally use selection techniques to get a representative sample. I guess I should have said "non-representative" instead of "non-random" to drive the point home.

That said, this is a very self selected sample and worse one that self selects according to a variable of interest (desire to hook up).

How do you account for people who use it to search for relationships?

You can't. That's the whole problem. if you knew the distribution of relationship goals on the service and in the general population you could correct for sample bias, but you don't.

But let's say the initial sample is unbiased and that people looking for long term relationships are as likely to use Tinder/Bumble as people looking for a hookup (a pretty generous assumption).

I'd argue that people who are interested in long term relationships are more likely to find them than people who are interested in hooking up, and that people who are in relationships are less likely to to be using the service at any given point. So starting from an unbiased sample, you'd pretty quickly hit a biased one.

So essentially, any appeal to dating apps cannot be used as a legit proof until someone comes up with a way to extract a correct an unbiased sample size of users who use it for/and for relationships, right?

Essentially, yeah, although I'd argue you could get closer to representative by pulling in dating services with different demographics (match.com, Coffee Meets Bagel, etc.) It's a little like trying to gauge the health of the general population by surveying people at a hospital.

Exactly. Thanks for actual, rational thinking that strives for accuracy instead of wanting to believe whatever stereotype that makes a weak mind happy.

While this goes beyond the scope of the "experiment" shown here, it's impossible to prove that by going out with any of the girls that messaged here would've resulted in guaranteed sex as well. I'm willing to assume that an amazing personoality wouldn't have been needed to achieve sex but it definitely would've required some work on OP's part. If anything, this experiment only really proved that a good-looking profile picture resulted in more messages and phone numbers... but how is that not even obvious?

if you knew the distribution of relationship goals on the service

Surveys of college students (still biased sample) estimate it to be approx 15% relationship seekers, 20% hookup seekers, 40% people just seeking validation (i.e. female users), and the rest "other".

Fun non incel related facts, true randomness is actually very possible to achieve. Many things in quantum mechanics are truely random, and this is frequently used to generate strings of random numbers for cryptographic purposes (look up one time pads, a mathematically unbreakable cryptographic process that depends on having a large amount of random numbers).

In stats you don't need a truely random sample, you just need to select your sample of the population in a way that who you select isn't correlated with what you're measuring. For example if you wanted to see what percentage of people have brown hair, it would be acceptable to sit in the DMV and just count how many brunettes walk through the door. That's not random at all, but it seems unlikely that your hair color would be related to when you go to the DMV. This can be very tricky though, for example maybe it's a very sunny day and all the gingers decided to stay inside. That's why random (pseudorandom really because there's no reason to get truely random numbers in stats generally) samples are used, because its much harder to mess up

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Lmao your understanding of statistics is hilariously limited.

As an actual master's student in statistics seeing idiots get stats wrong just gets funny after a while.

The offer extends to you as well. Put your money where your mouth is, prove me wrong. I'm no swine and I'll listen.

Okay, so the first assumption you make is generalizing from OP's post to the entire population of tinder users. One could reasonably say that the type of girl to match a dude with that bio isn't the general type, ánd we do not know his succes rate. So saying that all women would be like that is not a conclusion we can draw from this data, unless we have a way to ascertain that the type of girl who matches this dude is the general type on tinder. We need more information to validate this claim. (weak point)

Secondly, and this is a stronger point, you then extrapolate from this limited data of girls on tinder to all women. One can reasonably assume that the type of girl to have a tinder account is, in general, more open to fucking a hot dude from there than girls who are not on tinder or is generally sluttier. There is a reasonable suspicion of bias in your data, or that your sample space from which you draw your samples is different than the general population of women. So saying that every woman would hop on his cock while he's being a cunt is not a conclusion you can draw from this data.

So firstly the data you pull from the sample space may be skewed as there may be a type to try and hop on this dude's cock when he has a cunt bio, and then you have the second issue with women on tinder being different from the entire population. Also, 22 million is the size of the sample space, not of your sample. It is true though that a large sample space from which you pull reduces the chances of the data being differently distributed from the general population, however we have reasons to believe extrapolating may be difficult due to the possible samples in your sample space possible being differently distributed to the entire population based on (I believe, haven't taken a class on survey design yet and looking to avoid it) self-selection bias.

And lastly I believe the entire point is a bit moot (this isn't stats though) as guys are exactly the same way. I believe even more dudes would jump on the reverse.

Hope it's clear, english isn't my first language.

Point one: what do we define as "general type"? Point 2: So to be sure, if the distribution matches the distribution in population, we need to know psych and social profiles of users to see if they match? And we also determine whether certain pecular traits are common among those who use those apps.

Do I understand it correctly?

Point one: what do we define as "general type"?

Phrased that confusingly, what I meant is that the sample you draw from in conversing with matches (the girls who liked the profile and who he liked back) may be different from the general population (here I'm referring to the population as all the girls on tinder, not all women). Look at it in terms of something easier; let's say average scores on a test are 10 out of 20, and you stand outside the classroom and ask some people what they scored. Something that may happen is that people who scored badly refuse to answer and just walk away from you or refuse to answer, which leads to an overweighting of people who scored well. This could lead to a situation where, even with a high response rate, the mean you derive is wrong (e.g. 12/20). (this is called non-response bias). I get the feeling there's a very good chance something similar applies to the girls he matched with as well (in that girls looking for hookups would be, on the whole, more likely to match with a chad like him, especially with such a bio). So even when just extrapolating to tinder in general his findings may be skewed.

Point 2: So to be sure, if the distribution matches the distribution in population, we need to know psych and social profiles of users to see if they match?

I don't understand this question, Could you clarify?

The underlying principle is that of that if you want to generalise findings from a sample, something you need to watch out for is the sample space from which you draw. If this sample space is different from the general population you want to extrapolate to, your findings about the general population will be incorrect. There's a number of reasons why this could occur, one of which is the one I linked. To get around this, you would try and standardise your sample to the general population by for example underweighting and overweighting parts of your sample, which is a technique we see used in election forecasting as an example.

I don't understand this question, Could you clarify?

You actually, more or less, responded to my question.

To get around this, you would try and standardise your sample to the general population by for example underweighting and overweighting parts of your sample, which is a technique we see used in election forecasting as an example.

Do you actually mind expanding on this part?

You’re.. playing chess against a pigeon. You know that, right? These fucks don’t care about your logic.

Yeah, kinda figured. Even then, it's late and I don't feel like studying, and I genuinely enjoy teaching people stats. Even when these people would probably call me a chad and hate my guts when they met me irl.

Guess what, I actually listened.

Haha I can only imagine. It's a pet peeve of mine but you have far more knowledge there than I do

Thing is I've mainly seen econometrics and mathematical statistics up until now, so questions about general things like this and applied probability and combinatorics can still throw me for a loop as I'm awful in verbalising those concepts. I'm a lot better at communicating techniques or thoughts behind an analysis.

And hey, you're doing well enough to recognize it often enough for it to be a pet peeve! That's a whole lot better than the general population and even most journalists! :)

I have a bachelor's in economics so my background is a lot of econometrics and general statistics, I just never went further than that. And I agree, most journalists have almost no understanding of the subject.

As an actual master's student in statistics seeing idiots get stats wrong just gets funny after a while.

How /r/iamverysmart of you.

I love how insecure you are that you feel the need to try and tear down anyone doing better than you

Then prove me wrong. I might be an idiot but I can listen at least.

"I will speak no ill of anyone, and speak all the good I know of everyone" - rough paraphrase of Ben Franklin

Read a book called How to Win Friends and Influence People. It had a profound influence on my life. One of the key points it makes is to always assume the best intent of others. If you live your life needing proof that people aren't all terrible, you'll never be happy. Your entire approach to others will either be hostile or overly guarded. Try giving others the benefit of the doubt. I'm not good at doing this yet, but the mentality can be life changing.

I asked you to prove me wrong on data interpretation, not give me a life advice.

I'm not going to argue on the internet about stats of whether or not all women are awful people. This is not intended to be academic at all

Resignation accepted.

I mean... this is specifically an all beta/omega/zeta thread. 🤣

You went from /r/iamverysmart to /r/ican'tproveshit within 2 sentences.

Congrats bud, you set a world record in deflection.

xpost me then bruh

Just read a book, bro

22 million isn't even a full percent of the total female human population, it's about half a percent. Tinder is for sluts. You're applying sluts stats to normal people, do the math.

While I've been explained that I was confusing sample size with sample space, if it was the sample size that big, wouldn't it be enough for that kind of characterization?

Well, in politics, you only need about 1500 people to get a fairly accurate prediction of how an election will turn out.

1500 randomly selected people.

Yeah, it's pathetic really. This person went on a hookup app, and discovered that hot people get more attention. Um.....wow.....what a breakthrough!

No No No. That's not the problem. The problem is that hot MALES get ALL the attention. If we were getting some attention too, we wouldn't be incels. I don't want to have 100 whores under my belt, but I don't want to be always alone with 0 success.

It's not about their advantage, it's about their monopoly.

The problem is that hot MALES get ALL the attention.

Is it the problem though? Or rather is it the problem that can be solved?

Right. It's reality, not a problem. The alternative is forced relations, it's a concept they can't grasp.

Oh wow, so if a problem has no perfect solution it isn't a problem.

Fucking normies

Women aren't property, so men aren't "monopolizing" Women. You'd get women if you view them as people, listen when they talk and take an interest in what they're saying. Don't take advice from this site, as this site is full of complainers who think women are solely for sex.

I have plenty of female friends, some of them quite close. They have not given me the sexes you just promised.

Inb4 you say it's either because I come across too needy or I don't show interest sexually (never know which of these entirely opposite arguments you normies are going to use).

I'm not saying any of that. And thanks for the normie compliment, even though I'm a femoid (is that what you guys call us?). It's probably not you, it's just they aren't interested in you, in that way. Why not have them help you get a girl?

Dude you really don't get it do you? Any non obese girl simply has better options. I honestly cannot remember the last time a girl my age I know started a relationship with an average guy. And some certainly are below average themselves, though quite a few of them have said that they prefer average guys over pretty (they just don't know what average looks like).

So you're giving up? Not all women are like this. A lot of us like nice guys. I'm telling you, talk to your friends who are girls and have them help you. They know you more than me, they know your good traits to play up.

I'd rather pretend to be attracted to miniature locomotives than come out as romantically struggling.

I will have quite a decent degree, wage slave for experience in Germany a little and then go someplace where 15 year olds don't framemog me. Call that giving up all you want but it's better than trying to change your personality or showering.

A lot of us like nice guys.

What a load of crap. A lot of you say you like nice guys, but your dating patters show just the opposite.

Nah, I think we all are the problem. There are far too many men who want to have any women they can.

If women had it harder, they might be easier to get for the average guy. I'd be picky as well if I could choose from 100 women on tinder (and that's the reality for many girls there)

How can it be solved? Be hot?

What do you think is the solvable problem? Rope?

They'll be making realistic f-dolls within 5-10 years. Can you wait that long and save money?

How many of y'all would have sex with an "ugly" "incel" girl after treating her like a human being for a few god damn nights?

Almost all of us, me included. Women aren't like men, they're insanely hypergamous and have much higher standards. This whole problem is created by how choosy women are getting today.

hookup app

More like every dating app and initial impression of all time in the history of the universe.

Hey, I want to have a lot of success as the guy in the post hooking up. You said that hot people get more attention but how hot you have to be to get as much attention as the guy in the post? (or less but still a lot of attention).

Combine this with the idea that these hot men are now accessible to every girl...

and that girls (like most female mammals) will all fuck the alpha male of the 'group', and simply all carry that one guy's kids if possible...

And you have a completely fucked scenario where most of the male population has no future, no reason to strive anymore, and thus no reason to NOT do something violent and ERattic.

"you have a completely fucked scenario where most of the male population has no future, no reason to strive anymore, and thus no reason to NOT do something violent and ERattic."

Wow....lets hope your comment is noticed by the CIA. You know they actively monitor these incel pages now, right?

Same trend exists on OkCupid, a more serious dating app. Despite personal essays and thousands of personality questions, which was supposed to set the platform apart from others as deeper and less superficial, they found it's still 90% looks.

That’s not really how it works

You look at what the product is- that’s like asking how many people on pornhub are watching non-porn videos - it’s a choice, it does exist and is an audience and feature that is growing, but it is not the intended point of the site

Tinder and Bumble are casual dating sites, look at the dramatic less number on bumble- a reason for that is by its design it’s not AS casual as tinder, the slight more effort women need to do to choose people effects its customer base- buys its still designed to be a casual dating app

There are dating and forums designed for humans that don’t want to meet on hook up apps- often based around hobbies, religion or even shared mental illness - tinder is tinder

No it can't unless it's a random sample. You survey people in a hookup app, no fucking shit you'll find the vast majority of people there looking for sex only. LMAO, this experiment proved nothing of consequence outside of the app and it doesn't take a statistician to know that lol.

It's not a random sample, it's completely biased. You're mathing wrong.

I've been informed about my confusion but thanks.

You got a lot of upvotes. Guess a lot of people share your confusion and really just want to see a comment that supports their beliefs whether it's rational or not.

Many people upvote because it feels good. If you actually care about factuality and context, you can scroll down and see a detailed conversation about it.

It is interesting. I'm just learning about the Incel community. As an average looking guy with below average charisma I never had a problem maintaining physical relationships with women. Trying to figure out what the problem is here.

So you're basing the world around yourself?

I see the world from my perspective as we all do. Though i try to understand others, which is why I'm here.

that's still only .3% of the human population.

Thus we can't get casual sexual partners due to our inferior looks

There are plenty of unattractive chicks out there for you man. You just gotta know what league you're in and stick to it. If you want to get with hot women you either gotta be hot, rich, hilarious or any combination of the three. Or keep complaining because that's clearly workin

nice troll

Up next, is catfishing coeds a healthy hobby? The answer may surprise you! Stay tuned

If you believe that personality is important, then logically there is no such thing as catfishing.

Actively lying, where verbally or nonverbally, is catfishing. It also just makes you a horrid person, which is immediately unattractive.

It’s not lying, you’re the same person, just with different pictures? Looks don’t matter anyways, right? :)

Its 2018 Grandma all women are on tinder/bumble.

No one could approaches like they did back in your day, every college girl I know uses some form of internet dating site, and also all dating in 2018 starts with casual sex and fwb then transitions into serious LTR after a while. People don't ask Susy to mosey on down to the General Store and buy her a taffy as a first date anymore we are in a new time.

It just disproves this notion that women want men with good personalities. They don’t. Women want attractive men. QED for the millionth fucking time, and you still come here and say your platitudes.

And men want attractive women. That's how the world works.

Except one sex is honest about it and the other are lying cunts

What's your model?

Then would you please stop the bullshit about women looking for personality in a man, and that incels are alone because of their personalities? Thank you.

Fine, you’re alone cause you’re ugly. The women you’ve interacted with have not found you attractive. Are you happy now?

Satisfied. :)

Good luck with your face! Refunds would be nice tbh

Yes, finally someone tells the truth for once.

Do you actually go to Dartmouth? Such a fratty school seems like hell for an incel

Fall 2019

Taking a gap year?

Nope, I don't get out of the Army until May 25th 2019.

Oh cool! Hey at least you’ll be in great shape, and I know more than one hoe who’s gone after a guy just for his abs

Face > body

Eh it’s worth a shot. I don’t know a single guy who goes for the gym that doesn’t get laid, but I’ll admit that’s anecdotal

Probably not a good idea to try it, I don’t want to get MeToo’d.

I go to the gym just for the pussy. I have gotten laid by three different chicks over a six month period simply by going to yoga classes and striking up conversation. I’m not good looking, average, but I seem to be pretty good at flirting without seeming creepy.

No, but you're a cool normie.

I mean y’all are right about most of the dynamics of the modern day sexual marketplace. The rest of Reddit doesn’t like to hear it but looks are more important than ever and women have a far easier go at finding a partner. It’s just that y’all have some extreme individuals who advocate for rape and sex slaves and shit that give all incels a bad name.

Both sexes want someone attractive to pump and dump. Both sexes want someone attractive and personable to date.

Ok we already know this, but then please stop the crap about "personality" being the reason why we are Incels.

Except men have much much more lax standards and are willing to give basically all women a chance. Women on the other hand are wayyy too selective, their standards are out of this world.

Because they have men throwing themselves at them. Even the landwhales get tons of betas hitting on them. So they are like that because THEY CAN be like that. If you had all sorts of women hitting on you 24/7 you'd start upping your standards too. You act like it's so strange esoteric hidden reason why she has standards which it makes logical sense given how men are towards them.

Then you do admit that women are a LOT more selective than men, which makes the incels phenomena to be expected?

Why would I deny that? I think the 80/20 thing makes perfect sense. Women are holding out for their knight in shining amore more than ever. With things like IG/SNP/TW now all these women can clearly see the "pros" and "cons" of what other guys offer, and what other women are getting. Tech is making them more selective. More information and more options.

I 100% agree with that. The information age has expanded women's choice so much. That and the sexual liberation has allowed for women to be more selective and polarize the dating market.

Back in the day, chad had to get married young and commit, and women had to choose from the rest. Today, chad is an unapologetic fuccboi and women have all sorts of apps and social media to make sure they get with the best they can pull off. Making ugly men undateable, because there's simply always a better option. That's the blackpill.

You have to be 10x better than the average guy was +30 years ago. With all this tech they have more information to be selective and understand what they are "gaining" and "losing" in terms of a partner. Oh you aren't doing it for her?, well hey look at that she just got a Tinder/Bumble match from a dude that is better in 10 different areas that you lack. You have to be the apex or she'll just lose interest and move on to the next, because the options are so much more readily available.

Wasn't it you feminist cunts who pushed "body positicity" and screamed about unrealistic female body standards for the last 10+ years.

Now when men are willing to fuck whales you blame us? After literally brainwashing the western male population for the last decade through media?

Holy shit, bitter much? No amount of your pissiness is going to change anything about this current situation.

Holy shit, bitter much?

No shit, captain obvious. No amount of anything is gonna change anything about this current situation.

It's no wonder you are incel.

Then stop flooding the market. Guys will fuck anything that moves. It's basically a labor surplus with guys willing to work any job and girls hiring. It's not the employer's fault that they have so many workers to choose from.

True, but how are we going to get 3.5 billion people to stop doing something?

And men want attractive women.

Because thats all you have to offer is your looks. You're useless at everything else.

Wahhh women won't sleep with me even though that's all they're good for wahhhh.

I have absolutely no empathy for a mysoginist who whines that they can't get attention for women. None.

Its pretty easy to get female attention. Women are stupid and will open their legs to anything that stirs up their feelings.

I don’t get why you’ve been downvoted for speaking the truth.

I love this excuse from normies, where they openly admit how we're right about how looks is the only thing that matters but try to spin it to make us seem wrong lololol lololol

Lmao exactly. Its the perfect nick young meme

there are unattractive women out there fucking unattractive men every day. just accept you're not going to get hot Becky and find yourself someone with low enough standards

Lmao do you know how many 0/10s have rejected me because of how I look?

Since apparently we get to use anecdotes as evidence now.

You're gonna have to fuck a downie. Normies ain't gonna stop thinking incels want to fuck models unless one of us gets into a relationship where we have an exorbitant advantage in mental power over our partner.

I've had shreks turn their nose up at me.... I did some light flirting and quickly got push-back.

This just in: Normies admit that what incels have been complaining about is true after all.

or girls don’t talk to you because you call other people normies and constantly insult every single girl you know and generalize them and likely hate all women so even if you found a girl that liked you she’d probably lose interest due to your severe loathing of women

Lmao I can easily talk to girls. Ding ding you're wrong.

We don't act like this in real life.

Are you sure?

Yes, I'm sure. Do you constantly call every unattractive guy in real life an incel?

You guys are probably so awkward and socially oblivious that you can't even tell your misogyny bleeds through.

Nope

Don't worry I believe you

That's weird. I'm wondering why you think that OP's vicious misogyny in his messages didn't turn off all the potential dates.

Don't project your estrogen infused emotions onto us just because you can't keep your feelings in check in front of people.

You know us all so well, don't you? :)

I think you're confusing a casual passing comment with something more than it is, although I guess that's my fault. If you're worried about me I literally got a girl's number today for a date after chatting her up at a bar, so hopefully I'm okay.

Like the other people said, the way incels act in person and online is very different, and they usually don't dislike women.

Only with the top % of men . that's why those men sleep around with women every weekend while the avg guy doesn't have access to casual sex. And u wonder why men are becoming radicalized.

Yep, the 80/20 rule. Women can be selective because they can basically go up to any random dude and have sex with him. And if they fuck an alpha or ~alpha, they will just start turning their nose up at anything that isn't that. Until they hit the wall and smell out a good beta provider.

If tinder is just for hookups then why do so many women have "No hookups" on their bio then?

Many of the women I slept with off Tinder had "no hookups" in their bio.

You believe "No hookups"? hahah that's cute.

Not really just refuting her point

Some of them genuinely mean that, and others actually mean that they don't just want to be pumped and dumped, but would be open to casual sex after you get to know each other first. The best way to find out who's who is to ask (as in "What brings you to Tinder?"). If they say "I don't know" or "Just looking to see where things go" or basically don't say they're there to find a relationship, then there's a good chance they're dtf.

Additionally, it could be a basic filter kind of like wearing a fake jewel ring on their ring finger to discourage randos.

Yup I agree with this 100%. They may hope to filter out creeps who open up with sexual pickup lines and can't talk about anything else, but might actually be interested in casual sex with someone they can get to know that acts like a normal person.

That way the blame shifts to the guy. She isn't a slut. It just "happened". Basic female logic.

Obtuseness isn't cute. The point isn't that the hot ones get the attention. The point is that a mans behavior and language are perceived as creepy or desirable solely based on his looks and nothing else. There are no creeps, misogynists, badboys or confident smooth talkers. There are only ugly guys and hot guys. That is the point

Yet they will make their future hubbies wait months or years and give false rape acussatioms against ugly men.

If you can't get a job anywhere who is more likely at fault- all the employers or you?

If you can't get a job because of your looks, whose fault is it?

Dude, there's more to life than casual sex or even relationships. Wtf...

I want to have a lot of success as the guy in the post hooking up. You said that hot people get more attention but how hot you have to be to get as much attention as the guy in the post? (or less but still a lot of attention).

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I really don’t get what incels are trying to prove that most girls won’t own up to themselves. A hot guy wants to hook up? I would say half are gunna tease them online and half would actually do it. Who the fuck cares? Are you just upset cause he’s better looking and can get girls without a personality? Some girls just wanna fuck, have fun, and not give a thought into what kind of “personality” a guy has... just like a lot of men. Get over it.

some girls

a lot of men

You're not even trying to hide your bias.

Fucking rekt.

I would say that guys care a lot more about personality than femoids

I am just curious. If you went on Tinder as yourself, and had these same replies, would you meet the girl and sleep with her? Why is it such a bad thing for two young people to want to have sex because they find each other attractive?

I won't. I hate casual sex

Then what is your perfect female, seriously? A beautiful girl, who doesn’t know she is beautiful, understands the male gender (as you see fit), is a virgin, and good personality? Anything I’m missing? Good luck with that. I don’t expect men to live up to fantasy expectations.. physically or mentally... do you expect women to?

Virgin is a must not because I think its immoral to fuck for religious reasons or some shit hell I don't even think that girls should not have casual sex I could not care less.

The problem is that they get broken far far beyond repair when they spend their prime time fucking chads. Getting pumped and dumped etc.

I'm sorry but they automatically disqualify for 'wife material' because they.

And yes, the she is beautiful and she does not know it is PERFECT because then she won't be a fucking entitled bitch will respect her man and so on.

I know its impossible to find that AWALT and unicorns doesn't exist

Someone who isn't into casual sex.

If not being a whore is so impossible, then you're basically admitting foids are fucking skanks.

Well he wouldn't have so many matches and the bitches would nake him play the dating game to sleep with him. Chad just needs to ask and pussy falls from the sky

I fucking would. But what's wrong is I'm ugly as fuck AND DIDNT CHOOSE TO BE THIS WAY. Meanwhile Chads who didnt have to do jack shit and got blessed with good genes get laid all goddamn day while I go for years or decades without sex

So the whole world should remain celibate so you’re not angry? Pay for an escort then cause the world isn’t gunna change I’m sorry to say

No, but we should show the world how shit datinng is for ugly men, and have women finally shut the fuck up about how hard they have it because they can’t fuck chad. Maybe people could show some sympathy towards incels instead of demonizing them.

No, I should get laid. I'd love to pay for sex but unfortunately it's illegal and I don't even know how to find a prostitute

I should just kill myself right?

Kill yourself because of the opposite sex? I don’t get these incel threads at all. I spent 3 years as a drug addict feeling bad about myself because I was alone, feeling like an outcast and no one wanted me. But why do you all blame the world and the every female on it? I don’t blame anyone for being alone.

I don't blame anyone too. I'm just tired of evying girls cause they can have lots of sex.

I guess that’s the cruel part of how the genders were made. Men want sex much more then women, but can’t get it. While women can get it, but don’t want it as much.

You dumb fuck, why do you think we have to repeat the blackpill everyday. Because you dumb fucks just deny it or underestimate it, like you do. Looks are the ONLY thing women go for, unless it's for settling with a betabux. If they can't get chad, they settle for less than chad and feel miserable and hate their boyfriend.

I’m not denying it. I’m just asking what the big deal is? Because people want to have sex with each other when they find that other person attractive? I don’t know who would deny that. You don’t have to get so angry. It just seems like jealousy to me. I don’t get jealous of other girls I know that sleep with guys more then me or have boyfriends when i don’t. So what is the issue with you guys? Yea sure being lonely sucks, i know, but blaming it on a whole gender is hilarious and ridiculous.

Are you a woman?

You could sleep with 200 guys in a year if you wanted. Only very attractive men can do this.

The big deal is they lie about it, and try to make it seem like it's our fault we can't get laid.

"Women don't care about looks as much as men!" "Your problem is your personalityyy."

Because you are still able to go on tinder and get a boatload of male attention from your looksmatch while these healthy young men have empty inboxes. THERE IS NO STANDARD LOW ENOUGH FOR THEM. THEY GET NOTHING. THEY LOOSE. GOOD DAY SIR.

I hear where you are coming from... but then why bash girls that have sex on here? If its with you its okay? but if its with the guy in the tinder profile she’s a slut and so is he? I’m not debating about looks or personality, because i agree that looks always win. So everyone on here is just bitter at the world for not looking the way society deems fit?

We are bitter because womens standards in 2018 are astronomically high. A fat woman expects Chad, an ugly woman expects chad, a 40 year old post prime whore expects Chad, an average plain jane white bitch with the body shape of a wooden board like you expects Chad.

You would rather die than date a man at your looks level, you will not settle for anything at LEAST several points above you on the looks scale. That is what we're mad about.

I havent had anyone want to actually date me and be in a relationship so i cant agree. And i dont see how insulting me gets you anywhere or gets you sympathy from anyone other then other incels. I never came on this board insulting anyone. I was generally curious why the fuck you are all so pissed off just because people prefer better looking guys over you. Society is not going to change for you. So either pay for sex or be pissed off all the time i don’t know

Typical female logic, What a pretentiously asshole thing to say.

"Just pay for it dude, women shouldn't have to change"

Yeah typical female logic coming from a female thats in the exact same boat as many on here of constantly being alone and never being in a relationship but just has a foot set in reality and doesn’t blame a whole gender because they are unwanted.

Bullshit. There's not a single guy here who wouldn't give for a chance at you being their girlfriend. You're alone because you have a predisposition of only wanting guys that are 3+ levels above your looks match. You could literally hop on tinder right now with only the single ugliest picture of yourself and you'd still get matches quite regularly. There are no difficulties of being a women in 2018, especially not when it comes to dating. Stop fooling yourself.

I’m not fooling myself. I don’t see how getting matches on Tinder means anything. I’ve tried and all that is on there that I have talked to are guys looking for a hookup. I’ve been surrounded by girls my entire life that have been in relationships or have always had a guy with them and I have not. I’ve never been in a relationship or asked out on just a regular date and I’m an average looking 25 year old. Loneliness is killer, especially when you are surrounded by people who aren’t. I turned to drugs and alcohol, then tried to be the upstanding smart girl and got a degree... tried to be every type of person that someone would want but that doesn’t fix the problem. This whole thread just seems crazy to me and actually upsetting. I don’t think anyone should have to feel like I do and I’m sure many people on here do to. But calling women parasites and scum, etc. and other users only wanting virgins is fucking insanity. I don’t go around holding grudges against any guys that dont want to date me. So excuse me, its not bullshit. There’s qualifications for everyone. I’ll let you know when I get asked out on a date though, no matter “what level” they are on.

As a woman to looksmaxx you literally just need to lose weight and have a healthy BMI and you can get a above average looking guy with a good job who worships the ground you walk on.

Men are so sex starved in 2018 due to tinder making even fat ugly women chase chad we will do anything for pussy feom a healthy normal looking girl work a normal BMI. It's impossible to be incel as a woman with a BMI in the normal range.

LOL i can’t compete with these posts anymore. I workout all the time and weigh 140. Since I’ve been able and wanting to date I have been alone and never had the opportunity to not be alone unless it was a guy asking to come over and fuck. And im not exaggerating... i mean zero. And ive tried putting myself out there by going out, hobbies, traveling, etc. its embarrassing that i dont even want to tell anyone that i know. And i get the same shit from my family and friends, “the right one will find you! Better yourself!” I just dont see how bashing women allows either of the genders to find a meaningful relationship. Sure i can go on tinder and i probably could have a one night stand, but who truly wants that? People want relationships that mean something.

Since I’ve been able and wanting to date I have been alone and never had the opportunity to not be alone unless it was a guy asking to come over and fuck

Stop chasing Chad then, DATE AT YOUR FUCKING LEVEL. Chad sees you as a quick pump and dump you aren't attractive enough to lock him down in a long term relationship, you aren't Stacey. Go for fellow normie males at your looks level, they will be fucking ecstatic that you want to date them and they will treat you like a queen.

But you won't do this. You will continue getting pumped and dumped by 6'2 handsome but sexist Trump voting fratboy chads off Tinder and ignoring the 5'9 nice guy liberal normie pining after you. It's a story as old as time itself.

Lmao what are you even saying? Are you reading anything I am writing? As in NO ONE, ZERO, not one person... i can’t magically make a guy want to date me no matter what he looks like. I have never met a 5’9 normie liberal guy that wanted me. What should i do? Scan the streets and go up to every average looking guy and demand they treat me like a queen cause our physical features are compatible? I read some of this shit on here and fully understand you guys and then other stuff just blows my mind on how ridiculous you sound. I’m agreeing with your struggles but somehow you want to twist it and say that all I do in my spare time is fuck tall, hot, Trump supporters and turn down nice, shorter, average looking guys. I haven’t had the opportunity to do either so check yourself again.

Step 1) download the dating app Bumble and make an account

Step 2) find a man. If you have a half decent personality and arent a feminist masculine bitch you can easily get a normie and maybe even a Chadlite if your lucky because having a good personality actually matters for females and isn't a meme.

Yea... everything is my fault i suppose but with this advice “that i have obviously never tried before” will surely work. Thanks. You got the dating game figured out. Can’t wait to find my Chadlite on Bumble! Yay!

There having been dating site experiments using 400lb obese women with hairy chests who get tons of men trying to smash.

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168948903&pagenumber=1

If you can't get sex and a long term relationship as a woman using online dating you are shooting for Chad's while being not being Stacey. You are like a high school kid trying to play in the NBA, stay in your league thot and you will have no trouble.

Thanks for the insults and the advice. You are one smart guy.

No argument... So you admit I'm right.

Unless your actually telling me you made a Tinder account and not a single man wanted you.

No that was sarcasm. I was on POF and Tinder. Met 1 guy off Tinder that didn’t just message me for sex... never replied to me after I didn’t kiss him the first night we went out for an hour for drinks even after saying I wanted to see him again. Went out on 3 dates with 3 different guys on POF, never got any responses from 2 after telling them I was interested. Went out with the third guy a few more times and neither of us seemed to have any chemistry and kind of both stopped talking to one another. You don’t have every single female figured out. But of course I’m sure you are going to tell me I did something wrong again, which maybe I did I don’t know. But I’m sure you can relate to believing there is something wrong with you when no one wants you. Because it sucks. Or that doesn’t work for me because I’m a girl?

PoF is for weird people and you went on one single date on Tinder with some Chad who didnt want to wait for sex cause he had so many options so you quit the app.

Just lol, meanwhile an average looking guy struggles to get 1 match a month.

You admit that guys still we're willing to hook up with you, correct? Guys here can't even manage that. Can you really blame some of the guys here for wanting virgins? It's been shown time and time again here that no woman will be understanding of a guy who's still a virgin in his 20's. It would be a lot more comfortable and easier to start a sexual relationship with someone who's in the same boat.

Besides that, why should any guy have to be ok with girls who literally sleep with 3 different guys in a given week? For some people, sex isn't looked at as something you casually do. Some view It as an intimate ritual. A bonding of bodies between two people who love each other. There's a reason why monogamy and waiting until marriage we're the norms until recently. Values have changed, for better or worse depending on who you ask.

Incels are in a very dark place, facing the harshest of realities. The thought of being a man unfit or in the eyes of a female unworthy of her blessing to continue his lineage is DEEP. It's not an issue that should be taken lightly or scoffed at. Women laughing at the genetic failures of our species is rubbing salt into an already badly grievous wound. Kudos to you for being alone all this time and not turning as sour as some of us here. But you're experience past, present, and future just isn't comparable to ours.

I understand where you are coming from.... i just don’t get how all the women hating helps it. Not finding a meaningful relationship sucks and being alone has caused me to do some damaging things to myself. Yea its different because men and women are different, but I’m pretty sure loneliness feels the same all around. Just cause I can get a Tinder guy to have sex with me, which i do not, does not make the unloved feeling go away. Anyway, I was just curious about people on here and thanks for responding without calling me a dumb whore.

Sure thing, good luck to you.

The fact you take that for granted shows how much more dire our situation is than yours

Ok you win. Wasn’t trying to say who has it worst, just trying to have a conversation.

I don't feel any sympathy for a normal looking woman who says she can't find a relationship

You probably view average looking guys as "creeps" and would hate dating one

I’m not looking for sympathy. I don’t blame my loneliness on anyone. But I guess you know me. Was trying to find some common ground here but I guess not.

Okay good, you can fuck off now thanks

"I was generally curious why the fuck you are all so pissed off just because people prefer better looking guys over you."

I was generally curious why the fuck black people were all so pissed off just because people prefer white people over you.

Haha your comment makes absolutely no sense.

You could literally pull out your phone and get laid right now if you wanted to. You have NO FUCKING CLUE how it feels to be an incel

Men do the exact same LMAO

It means we're right when we say looks are everything and personality isn't. If only Normies would admit to this we could all rope in peace.

I agree with you on that.

Well that was literally the whole point so feel free to apologize for the condescending tone you decided o adopt in your initial comment.

Well no that’s not the whole point which is why I’m commenting on here. If the issue was just that looks mean everything and some people can’t even play the game of dating I’d 100% agree and sympathize. But no, on just about every post there are men bashing and blaming women and praising/idealizing virgins. It is insanity and unrealistic. So I won’t apologize. I’ll agree when someone is right and obviously disagree when I don’t believe they are.

Putting the question of the merits or lack thereof of the ancillary views which you describe, I guess my question is, why do you care? You admit that we’re talking about people who were denied participation in the game as a result of the circumstances of their birth, so what difference does it make to you that they choose to express bitterness towards the people who get to play.

At the end of the day it’s just shouting in to the void.

It means nothing

Because for people that take a lot of time bashing women and saying they are worthless parasites they then in turn define their whole identity on the fact that they can’t have sex with them. I guess I was just trying to find some logic on a topic that I think affects a lot of people, male and female, and wanted to discuss about it. My mistake when I believe I can find logic on reddit subs like this.

TL:DR gurlz jus wan have funn TEEHEE

The point that all women will deny, in as few words as possible, is this: male behavior is assessed as creepy or arousing based solely on his looks.

what a dumb whore.

Get over it.

No u.

I want to have a lot of success as the guy in the post hooking up. You said that hot people get more attention but how hot you have to be to get as much attention as the guy in the post? (or less but still a lot of attention).

OP, you glorious autist this is excellent. Nice work.

Thanks. I posted this a year ago on the original subreddit but I believe that it's time for the new group of incels to see this potent blackpill.

Okay switch it to a lot lol

Absolutely insane

I’m going to assume that these girls you are messaging with are either average or below. Any girl that’s average or below would certainly indeed hook up or smash with a guy that’s waaaay beyond their league. That’s a huge validation and ego boost for any of these girls which will last for decades.

Now my point is that if any of these girls would be a true Stacy (above average looking) you wouldn’t receive these thirsty responses as quickly and you would definitely have to work harder to get their numbers even with those pictures you’ve been using.

Your assumption is wrong. They were all really attractive. Even that 4'3" girl had a really pretty face.

Don't underestimate femoid thirst when Chad is present.

Let me explain what I base my assumptions on.

You said you did this experiment during a timeline of 3 days. The amount of true Stacie’s using the apps during the 3 days are already a low percentage. Now you mentioned that you received hundreds of likes, by own experience I can tell you that the amount of Stacie’s would only be a handful of those hundreds of likes.

Now you’d be lucky if she even responded since she’s already texting with the few male modes on the apps. You’re using a really attractive guy but the pictures are shit.

TL;DR True Stacy only goes after model chad

Average/ below looking girl goes after chad

Average/ below looking girl goes after normie (lucky)

There are exceptions.

Let me explain what I base my reality on.

I saw their pictures. You didn't.

Then post their pictures. Prove me wrong.

??? Did you even read the post? I did this a year ago. It's hilarious that you're dumb enough to think I'd still have all the original pictures.

fraudcel

NUCLEAR COPE

His cope has passed beyond the event horizon

LOL someone is coping hard.

cope > rope

lmao at these black pill denying anons. I've done a similar experiment. Try it yourself. I've seen the same results on fucking facebook.

Not denying the black pill at all. All I’m saying is that this experiment is frauded.

the experiment is the black pill anon. Looks = personality!

brutal

3 days of being a Chad, I could not cope man. How do you not feel guilty, when chicks are throwing their pussies at you, how?

It's because they're throwing their pussies at him that he doesn't feel guilty. He doesn't even have to try.

Which is basically how the average or even basic looking woman feels because she has betas throwing themselves at her.

this is why in other cultures women are beat on their wedding night

Lol wheres that happen?

You are a legend for doing this man. Firm handshakes

Why would you go through all that just to feed your depression?

Moron.

It's a service to the community dumbass

They do it to prove a point.

The difference between incels and other average men is that those men lie to themselves while incels sees things like they really are. And the reality is depressive.

LMFAO how arrogant are you. My wife would leave me for the rock at the drop of a fucking dime and I damn sure know it. I'd also leave her for Michelle Rodriguez's or Mila Kunis. Pull your head out your ass and stop focusing of the negatives there's more to life. And nuturing your current mindset will only ensure your own isolation. Nobody wants to be around that negativity.

Your wife is a whore then. Thank god my GF is not like your wife.

LMFAO arrogant and can't even stick to his own beliefs. Yes y'all really are hopeless. Good day sir

Yeah retard. Still you can't point one stance of rape in this sub.

Who the hell brought up rape. LMAO why so bitter.

Why would scientists do experiments proving that global warming exists if it's just going to be bad news for everyone?

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this is on the same level as the nuclear blackpill. Great job anon. Thanks for posting. Lmao at the cucks who fall for the whores who 'are not looking for a hookup' or who 'ain't a pump 'n dump'. If it breathes, it is a roastie.

I made a facebook account a couple of years ago. I had a profile picture of chad face I found deep from some website and I made sure the reverse search didn't work on google. I friended only college girls from all over the US (and some women). I made sure all the profiles were authentic and regularly purged out bots and shieet. I got locked out a few times and had to identify pictures before logging in. I had a work around for that (using another facebook to look up names in the options and find the face). I added around 1500-2000 women (absolutely no males). I could talk to any whore I wanted about any random thing in the world and they'd listen. At worst they'd unfriend me. But I could talk so comfortably with them. A married with kids woman was also down to meet and fuck. I finally got locked out and was prompted for govt ID. I don't have any workaround for that. I have the login info but can't do anything about it.

All the old ladies say i'm handsome, no young said that to me to this day.

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Nicely done!

Pizzacels on suicide watch.

"Just be yourself!! Looks don't matter!!"

I'm linking this shit to every god damn fucking person who tells me this

I hate women more than anything else on this earth

metoo

The female sexuality is the ruin of humanity.

Autismcel

“Just get a good bio bro” “Just have game bro”

Alec=Chad Alek=Melvin

this post is going to be passed down to many generation as an atomic blackpill. you did well.

Idk how many generations you think this will be passed down on, given that this community is for people who can't find a woman to fuck them 🤷‍♂️

we will find some one.

Hopefully, then maybe you guys can grow tf up and stop with the nonsense of "No woman wants to fuck me wahhhh"

atm no woman does. and if you were in my shoes then you'd feel shitty about it yourself.

I thought I was gonna die a virgin. For about 3 years of dating and going on Tinder dates, I could not get anything. I don't have any particular reason or thought as of why nothing ever came out of it aside from maybe I was ugly. Maybe my personality sucks. Who knows?

Then I met the love of my life. I had so much baggage from my previous two relationships that I am still amazed how my current SO put up with how I was. She was understanding, she consoled me when I cried, she makes me feel like I'm the only one in her world. On our 4th date, I told her I loved her (which was a very shitty move to pull on such an early relationship), and she was very weirded out LOL, but she came around to it because she felt the same way about me.

We literally have the same opinions over the important stuff (politics, do we want kids, etc) which is good to take away tension that could arise from differences. We have a few difference of opinions that don't matter too much (like how she's a Christian who barely practices and how I'm an atheist, or how she hates pineapple on pizza, while I love it, etc.). We are both ambition-driven people. I love being a chef and playing music. She's still working on her degree in the medical field.

What is my point in all of this? If I can find someone, anyone can. I was and still am a little overweight (about 30-40 pounds. I haven't checked in a while since I've been busy with work and moving), a narcistic asshole whose personality didn't match their looks, and a bisexual atheist in The South of America. I'm also another minority but I kinda don't wanna identify myself lol. Point is, probably no one else wants me here in The South at least. I think everybody deserves a chance at happiness and even tho I am more cynical and more or less an asshole to groups/communities like these, I still hope you guys find a chance to fulfill your dreams/desires.

Take care.

I think while you're reading through these you gotta consider what would happen if someone who wasn't an 8+ said these things. It must be easy to forget basic courtesy as a chad

The more I browse this sub lads the more I realize how fucking true all of this is. This post is exactly my tinder experience and I always thought it was the same for everyone until my friends said “Yea, I have 0 matches” or “Ya I got 1 match a day”

You know what I’m ashamed to say this but I’ll say it anyway. You all have made me realize 80-90% of what this sub says is true as fuck in 2018 USA. I’ve just never thought of it because I was blessed enough to be born tall and good looking. Damn man idk what to say really.

I wish you guys would ban all the vile and cruel posts like “rape women, fuck her, kill em” - you’d get a LOT more serious attention then

I wish you guys would ban all the vile and cruel posts like “rape women, fuck her, kill em” - you’d get a LOT more serious attention then

where they at doe

I wish less of those posts too. That way maybe we could show how skewed the dating scene is towards women.

This sub is about the black pill Mr. Chad.. these rape posts are not welcome here.

On my social media all the girls keep talking about incels being rapists and psychos and I’m thinking “why are you conveniently ignoring the valid points they make??”

Don’t ever call em out using your real name or in person. That shit will ruin your life.

The Turks have a saying. “If you’re going to speak the truth, make sure you have one foot in the stirrup.”

For the people that don’t know what a stirrup is, they saying means be ready to drop a truth bomb and book it like the fucking wind.

Yeah, I never will do that man haha. I know how vicious these girls are

For the people that don't know what a stirrup is,

tfw romecel

tfw cattle ranchcel

Can you point at least one stance of rape in this sub? just ONE

This is like this for everything, not just incels, but also MRA and anything "man".

Every community has its cancer and its deviant extremists, but somehow the feminine community's extremists are "not representing the whole" but when it's a masculine community, it is representing the whole.

Look on the side bar of the sub, it literrally says to report stuff like that.

Exactly, and it’s weird because a lot of my friends are not even ugly, just normal, and they get low matches with decent pics. Nuts how picky they are

I wish you guys would ban all the vile and cruel posts like “rape women, fuck her, kill em”

Over and over people talk about these supposedly post and I see them nowhere, perhaps you need to stop listening to bullies like IT and make your own opinion like you just did.

Have you had a lot of sex? I'm jealous of your youth

I have but I have a gf now since the last year

i actually like this simply for the sake of the experiment, but not for your conclusive results

Thanks for the OC, OP. Good work.

Just further proof that women are virtue signaling subhumans. Women are so narcissistic and sociopathic that they can't even admit simple and obvious things like "looks mater more than anything else".

Reminder, women project the version of themselves that they want society to believe is real (the "IM A PROUD WOMYN YOU HAVE TO RESPECT ME PERSONALITY ABOVE ALL ELSE NO MYSOGINISTS" fiction) while in actuality they have zero respect for themselves and will fuck a literal serial killer of women if given the chance so as long as he was a chad.

This is why I laugh at all the mentalcels in this sub who still worship women. Worshipping literal subhumans, that's about as low as it gets.

99.9999% of femoids are liars, fakes, phonies and 100% full of shit.

It's not an exaggeration, they REALLY ARE that bad. They're sociopaths. They're voids. They'll suck the life out of YOU and the cum out of Chad, that's all they do.

MeToo

Lol. Who takes a picture of themselves jogging?...like that?

I dont see why yall sperging so hard on this.

  1. This is not news.
  2. Men would do the same if the positions were swapped. Who wouldnt want to sleep with someone theyre attracted to? Source: im a man.

Dont hate the players, hate the game.

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I don’t know why you are coming to this sub every day contributing the same shit, fucking retard.

I don't know why you let strangers trigger you so easily. This is the internet bro. Chill out :)

Fuck off, retard.

Apologies as that wasn't my intentions. I encourage you to seek professional help.

I encourage you to fuck off. That’s the only type of help I need. You don’t know how I feel being a fucking circus freak and you normies can’t even leave my online community alone although it’s the only place where I feel normal. Not even online I’m entitled to being treated like a human. I’m only entitled to being bullied to suicide.

I recommend using other incel platforms such as that one incel website. I dont think reddit can provide you with what you need.

Also, I highly doubt you are as ugly as you say. What is your ethnicity and height?

Men are much more lax and give a chance to every woman. I myself, and a lot of other dudes I know, swipe on 99% of profiles on tinder. No woman ever does that. My female looksmatch has a completely different dating experience than I do

I see where you're coming from with that logic, however, it's flawed because the perspectives are different.

The example you gave is that you and your friends will swipe yes to almost every girl. However, that is due to your deprivation of pussy for x years. Essentially, you and your friends only swipe right so easily because you don't have an abundance of hot bitches orbiting you. Your perspective has always been scarcity.

Now try to view this from a average girl's perspective. Since puberty she's probably had a bunch of suitors trying to get in her pants. Why would someone who has such an abundance of options lower their standards in dating?

I mean you can see this in an actual Chad population too. They have a huge selection of bitches. The real Chads I know don't fuck with uglies. These guys don't give the ugly fatties a chance.

At the end it's just supply and demand. That's why I don't understand the women hating on this sub. The reason women are so "picky" is because men are so thirsty. Men artificially inflate the value of pussy. Source: I'm a man and I'm quite thirsty.

Sorry dude, I and pretty much everyone I know only swipe right on the one's we're sexually attracted to. Women are whores, men are fuccbois, that's life.

“Personality”

This is the real Atomic Blackpill.

Guys look at my last post edit. Consider moving to italy, out of 120 matches, 60 femoids were decent human being.

So you catfished? How do you know they/someone wasn't catfishing you or playing along?

The mental gymnastics you normies employ would win a gold medal

I'm not normal. I'm strange. Maybe I was thinking out loud. I should be more quite.

Yeah dude, there are only catfishes on tinder. How can you lie to yourself in such an extent just to keep your flawed views?

Amazing experiment can't wait for the control where you switch the sexes.

Sure, switch the sexes and even make her a butt ugly freak of a woman, and you'll get the same amount of messages as an attractive man.

Women have it so easy lmak

Yes do it and watch your theory crumble as only men of equal attractiveness will message. While I'm here it honestly sounds like everyone is mad at woman for what society Deems as an average man. It's basically the Barbie argument for women except women actually went to the core issue. Y'all do realize you can just join a feminist movement right? It's the exact same banner just a shit ton less hate.

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Are people still making a big deal about y'all? It's been in the Oxford dictionary for something like 20 years LMAO imagine if people made this big of a deal about every single other contraction in the English language.

Yes do it and watch your theory crumble as only men of equal attractiveness will message.

https://lookism.net/Thread-Why-online-dating-is-easy-for-women-Pig-Woman-Experiment

Already been done ya mong, and the men were considerably more attractive.

While I'm here it honestly sounds like everyone is mad at woman for what society Deems as an average man.

Yeah, since you know, they're the ones who decide what's sexually attractive In a man.

It's basically the Barbie argument for women except women actually went to the core issue.

Yeah, the core issue being men had too high of standards, and so they raised men who didn't have that high of standards. So now, that needs to be done to women.

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do realize you can just join a feminist movement right?

Oh you mean the movement that tells men they can be who they want, yet all the supporters still only fuck men who exhibit toxic masculinity? Why would I join any group when it's explicitly lying about caring for me?

It's the exact same banner just a shit ton less hate.

Lmao no feminist on earth wants to admit that women have privileges over men, so no, they don't have the same banner at all

LOL feminists are hateful as fuck.

Please I've actually had this conversation conversation with a large number of feminist and pretty much they've all agreed with your Susanne and are willing to fight for it. It's just in this little bubble that you guys actually believe they're hateful.

Yeah kill all men is such a loving statement

LMAO what Fringe feminist following are you following. And can I get a link I'd love to interact with them much the way I interact with this group. I don't know who you hang around but my entire social circle consist of feminist and non have shared this sentiment in the least.

killallmen trended on twitter lol.

If Twitter is where you get all your opinions from than you just answered all the questions I have on how someone can become bitter enough to join this group. The feminist your referring to are the equivalent of a volcell (hope I used the term right) reality is vast majority of feminist just want to fight for equality, they don't care for you. They just enjoy rebelling against "the man" (and I can't believe I'm explaining this, but I know someone is going to say this ; the man is a term for whoever is in power [as in being against the man does not equal being against all men]).

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/03/a-twitter-hashtag-probably-doesnt-prove-feminists-want-to-kill-all-men/359493/

Hell if you want further proof just look at how the world views incels vs feminist. At this point feminist organizations literally have a say in today's legislation and regulations meanwhile incel is labeled a terrorist group. You should really ask yourselves why. Especially when a majority of Congress looks like they can be incel members.

The answer is incels use bitter ham fisted tactics while feminist specifically targeted all media that created a unrealistic standard of beauty. They protested, took insults, invested in lobbyist. Meanwhile incels are most popular for Targeting specific women on social media, and creating memes that suggest an unattractive man has a right to sex simply because he's "a nice guy" as if attractive nice guys don't even exist.

Where's your response roastoid

Sorry was busy having a life what are you going on about?

Lmao youve posted multiple comments on this subreddit between when you conviently disappeared from this thread and now, don't even start with ylthe "I have a life" bullshit lmao you ran away

Ah I see your confusion. I don't obsess over every thread I comment. I usually open this app in line or on break go through reply a couple then go on with my day. I'm so sorry I've insulted you by forgetting about you. Please do go on with your perfectly valid point.

Lmao so you admit that I'm right that women have it incredibly easy with online dating, and that you were wrong about ugly women only getting matched with equally ugly men? Hmm?

That depends on your definition of easy. What your referring to isn't a looks thing. It's a cultural thing and we're only in the beginning stages of it dying. Unless your rediculously hot girls are much less likely to break that rule ( twas much worst when I was younger). Replys however are something different. I think my average rating as far as looks is a 4/10 can't disagree I am 5'5" with 25% percent body fat and hairy as fuck, also crippling social anxiety in crowds larger than 3. When I first started online dating I was lucky if I had 1 reply a month. It pissed me off and I remember thinking much like you do. Then on one of these dates I asked about her experience and I quickly realized she had the opposite issue.

Her message box was flooded. Not only that the majority were perverted assholes. I know your probably thinking EXACTLY or that you wish those were your issues. But I learned long before that happiness doesn't work that way, it's extremely relative and how you feel often has the most effect on how you act.

So from her perspective (and when you read this remember most women large or small {unless their hardcore gym babes} cannot out power a fully grown man) the vast majority of men on the site are there for sex and it's up to get to separate the two. Even if they're not acting perverted the others hinted at the nature. I can't even imagine the mental and emotional exaustion that comes with reading through those messages. Most every girl said after a week they barely used the app.So I changed my search settings to only new profiles. No lie I went from 1 date a month to 3 a week.

That's me personally

Come one you can't honestly believe this. Men on tinder will fuck anything

Obviously, the amount of matches is only made possible by the guy's looks, but crude comments or no, you obviously know how to talk in the "right" manner. For instance, I have a problem with speaking in a too formal manner, and when I do crude language is going to come off as very out of place. Not saying that would significantly hinder me if I were a Chad, but it might be more interesting to see if you'd get as many numbers if you acted insecure and socially inept instead.

Thank fuck for this, I did the same but u couldn't be assed taking screenshots. The behaviour on these apps is absolutely abhorrent

Is it that absurd to think that people can choose others just on looks alone? Does it hurt your feelings knowing that because your all ugly manlets you’re going to have to settle with a piggy flatso?

That’s life. Deal with it.

Finally a normo admits that women do not care about personality and never have. Also, the piggy fatso is also reserved for hot men, so we don't get that either

Because you sound like little bitches. It’s the way it is. Women only want the best next thing. They don’t settle. Be yourself and live by the same principal. You’ll all find love some day.

Women only want the best next thing

Be yourself and live by the same principal.

You’ll all find love some day.

These three things are in contrast with each other. If women want the next best thing, then they'll never want an ugly man, no matter how much I "be myself" (who the fuck else am I gonna be??). And if they'll never be with an ugly man, then how the hell will I find love some day?

You normies can't even think properly but you're over here telling us what to do? Lmao what

I really think he can't understand your comment, his IQ is very low.

Becuase you sound like little bitches.

Look at this fake ass e-thug. Faggot.

absolutely brutal mate

lol... the coffee slut actually fell for the "you're special, I won't treat you like I treat other girls"

... ... ... lol

All the time I've spent agonizingly ruminating on what to say or what I must have done wrong... Time to get the gun I guess, it hurts to live.

If you were attractive enough you wouldn't have to think at all about what to say. For the average men women act like cats, if you approach them too fast they run away

Hasn't facebook upgraded recently with some hookup features.

Read an article online that will surpass all dating/hookup apps.

How tall did you declare on your profile?

So pathetic hearing people create fake profiles on those apps. You act like you've made some amazing discovery, that HOT people get more attention. Um, well no shit.

Another normie admits that we are right for believing that women don't care about personality yet treats us like we're in the wrong somehow.

You're dumb like a female. This experiments are not to prove that hot people get attention, it's to prove that no matter how racist, misogynist, nazist or anything you are, women will offer their cunts to you if you are good looking.

Damn....you really hate women! Get some therapy, please! And stay away from women!

Too late, My GF is sleeping at my side right now. I only hate them online, I can't openly do it IRL so I act cool and they never notice.

I want to have a lot of success as the guy in the post hooking up. You said that hot people get more attention but how hot you have to be to get as much attention as the guy in the post? (or less but still a lot of attention).

god i'm just sitting here thinking of all the other things you could have done with your time instead of some setting up some experiment to prove what we all already know about good looking people getting special treatment

I wonder what would happen if you posted this on the tinder subreddit, that place is dumb as shit

They would just agree with it and say that he is really good looking and can get away with that stuff and that life isn't fair. Then they would say that there's no point obsessing over it cause the only thing you can do is improve yourself as much as possible, which is logically the best choice. Some will say that those girls aren't being serious and are just being playful, but this is just a coping mechanism, they would clearly fuck him on the first date if he was fairly neurotypical. You will also have some cucked soy-boys who will call him out for exposing this more primal side of female nature.

Legit ragefuel.

Women are garbage.

TLDR; girls care about looks as much as guys do. Earth shattering experiment here

If personality can’t tear you down it can’t build you up.

you are fucking stupid

It’s an app to hook up with people. What results would you expect

youre are retarded, for one men have to be funny, witty, and really handsome to get anywhere near the amount of responses women get

women dont have to be that attractive, they just have to decide whether to spread their legs or not

Well not in my experience, but keep up the name calling and bitterness towards women. That should get you where you wanna go

"well not in my experience" thats such a stupid argument and a weak one at that

i dont care if im bitter or not, its the truth, id rather be right than a stupid fuck like you

Good point. Enjoy your life

If your an incel on low income then they should be a welfare program that provides sex workers and escorts for us all so we can get laid for free because been an incel is a disability. It's not our fault we are born short and ugly.

Guys have more to offer than looks.

Women are the shallow sex.Think about it? Men will mate with most women but women will only mate with the top 20% unconditionally.

women just have towering standards. men will happily date a 4/10, for women its chad or bust, as you can see on tinder. women are not sexually attracted to non chad men.

The sample is extremely biased, tinder is made up of people who want quick sex.

This “experiment” is extremely invalid.

That's weird, if it's for quick sex, why is the phrase "not looking for hookups" so common? Hell one of the women OP talked to had that in her bio.

You're not calling these women liars are you?

Your are right, It’s common, but not a majority of women on tinder. The fact that most women are on tinder for hookups still stands.

And why are women's standards for hookups different than their standards in general?

On a platform as large as tinder that gives users as many options as it does, horny sex-seekers can afford to be picky. People choose what they find to be eye candy, swipe right, and move on.

I think we are confusing women’s standards for hookups on tinder with their standards in general.

The original point of the comment I made was not to be a white knight, but to simply state that this is not the greatest place for op to test his hypothesis. I do agree that many women do have unrealistic expectations for men, and am not debating that.

On a platform as large as tinder that gives users as many options as it does, horny sex-seekers can afford to be picky. People choose what they find to be eye candy, swipe right, and move on.

In real life women are bombarded by horny sex seekers as well, women talk about it all the time.

I think we are confusing women’s standards for hookups on tinder with their standards in general.

Because a woman's standards for hookups shouldn't be higher than their standards for a full fledged relationship to someone they commit their entire life to. That doesn't even make sense.

The original point of the comment I made was not to be a white knight

Lmao of course it was, don't kid yourself

but to simply state that this is not the greatest place for op to test his hypothesis.

I think it's a great place for it, so that women can see just how easy it is for them.

I do agree that many women do have unrealistic expectations for men, and am not debating that.

Good, I'm glad you're not, that would be a crazy argument to get ib

Make an average guy profile and start acting like this guy acted and let's see if women will still be so nasty. They won't.

i don't get it. how are men any different on apps when it comes to good looking girls? literally zero difference

Lmao no, ya mong, women swipe right on the hot men they want, men swipe right on every single woman they see.

Women have guaranteed matches, men have a fraction of a percentage chance at a match.

wrong. men don't actually swipe on every women, unless you're mega desperate

Attractive men obviously don't, lmao, every other man has too. It's why tinder made it so that you have to pay for more swipes lol

men have chances, women have choices

Roasties are rotten.

Women are trash.

I'm a man and I don't even want "casual sex", I actually VALUE things like personality, character, I'm skeptical and need to size up a girl, and it's rare I even like one. Looks do matter but not enough for me to risk a baby or STD with one I don't like as a person.

Voids? All they care about is looks and Chad. Fucking empty worthless garbage subman sociopath low-IQ subhumans.

To be fair, another study was done with a Trixie and they put degenerate stuff up on here profile and thirsty memoids still came in droves

This dude definintely has had to have seen his photos floating around, must feel good to be the epitome of chad lol

Out of the 70+ matches, a handful of them turned into potential dates? Are we ignoring all the women who probably turned him down or were upset with the disgusting messages? What about all the women who probably swiped left because they thought he sounded like a fuckboy?

You people have worms in your brain

Your last comment just proves the point of this sub.

What, that some people are willing to ignore shitty behavior because of someone's appearance? Are men not also capable of this? Are the literally dozens of women who ignored his messages, or the women who responded negatively, being taken into account here?

Women are more selective on looks, so it's going to be more of an issue with women.

You mentioned girls getting inundated with messages. Dating life on easy mode.

That's almost unthinkable for a guy, excerpt maybe a legit Chad.

They need to make BlackPills prescription medication. Im getting addicted and overdosing. This is some potent strain OP.

Dude how tf did people even match with you with those 2012 Instagram filters? Jesus people are gullible as fuck

Also do you have uncensored pics of the 4’3 girl? Was she legit a midget ?

She was joking, whoosh right over your head

She wasn't joking. She really was 4'3". I don't have the picture anymore but one of her pics was in a bathroom (because she's a trashy whore) and her tits were just above the sink.

And as we all know, all human mating is conducted via Tinder or at nightclubs where people fuck in the bathroom. All of it. Not one exception. If you can't get a date from Tinder your life is over.

All of this is totally, 100% true and no exceptions exist.

Prior to Tinder people were just assigned mates by the gods, but Tinder introduced actual choice in mating which had never existed before. And within a few years every woman on earth had an account and only 10% of men ever had sex again.

This is literally what a sizable portion of you morons believe.

I am glad you are slowly being enlightened.

You are partly right. Before online dating became the new normal women had limited choices and every average male had a reasonable chance to attract a potential partner. Now women have a Chadalogue where every attractive male from her city is listed.

It's still the minority of women using online dating.

No matter what metric you use, the majority of people aren't hooking up via Tinder. That's a fact.

And you think this new Internet thing which is so popular right now is just temporary. And it won't progress even more and completely dominate most parts of our social dynamics?

What's your point? That Tinder has somehow permanently changed the way humans interact? It hasn't. There's a subset of people who want NSA sex with strangers. Those people are being served.

It is still not the majority of people. It never will be.

Just because an option is available does not mean all women will adopt it as their sole means of interaction.

This is why you have as good a picture as possible

I hate life so fucking much.

As if we needed more evidence that the personality meme is just that: a tired meme made up by coping normies, dishonest females and white knights.

Fuck 'em all. :)

The irony of this entire sub is it creates a bubble that feeds and nurtures a attitude that will only further garentee a life devoid of love or sex. If I knew of this group back when I thought like you guys I honestly may never have grown out of it.

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Where on the looks scale would you say the women who responded like that were? My immediate thought was that they must have been desperate.

But with a bio that ridiculous, you had to know that no girl interested in anything more than sex would give you a chance (rightly so). One girl called it hilarious because it actually seems like it's just a suggestive joke; a way for you to playfully announce you were looking for sex. You attracted the female version of the male you were pretending to be. Why is that surprising or upsetting?

This "experiment" proves nothing except that horny people look for other horny people. What would be more telling is if you had two profiles (a Chad who sounds like a real douche nozzle and a normie who sounds like perfection), and posted them on a site that is ostensibly focused on something else (a specific religion, hobby, ideology, profession, etc.), and you had an overwhelming preference for the Chad despite being the opposite of what the women purportedly want. Ex: Chad is Christian on a Jewish dating site, Chad has terrible grammar on a site for educated people, Chad has a serious arrest record on a site for law enforcement, and so on, while the normie is the poster child for that particular site. Choosing Chad over the normie there is significant.

To be clear, I'm not saying that you wouldn't experience ANY of what you did with Tinder. But it shouldn't be nearly as bad. It post wouldn't be as dramatic, but your argument would appear far more credible. I don't know if that, and getting people to understand and treat you better, is actually the goal, though. If it isn't, then maybe it makes sense to be theatrical rather than realistic, and to go to town firing up the base.

Normies:

Look means NOTHING it's all about personality and charisma you misogynistic rapist.

Also normies:

WELL OF COURSE GIRLS WANT SEX WITH ATTRACTIVE MEN LOL YOU DUMB OR WHAT THIS IS COMMON SENSE XD MORE NEWS AT 11 numaleface

One is in reference to a one night stand, one is in reference to finding a life partner. There are different needs for different jobs.

No... looks are important for both one night stand and life partner.

cucktears losers on suicide watch.

Dude used a hookup app and wonders why people want to hook up. Mindblown.

You're forgetting that most if not all of the women on there want to hook up with a very select few of guys.

So?

Leaving guys like me alone and virgins for years which will lead to our deaths. Voids are indirectly murdering incels and yet you bitch at us for hating them.

TIL that people die because of their virginity.

People who don't have sex regularly actually do die earlier, so lmao

Why don’t you use this as a pick-up line? „Have sex with me or we will eventually die“

lmao @ this nigga

I’m not a nigga, bro

as you say my nigga

Yeah, nigga

my nigga

I think you misunderstand the reason why women say that they don't want casual sex. It comes down to two reasons and neither is very manipulative.

1: They need a back out card. Men are very insistent and rarely give up if they've been given some bait. The "I'm not looking for sex" is an easy way to do that.

2: It heightens their sexual market value. By reducing the supposed amount of sex they are dishing out, they also increase its value. Artificial scarcity, so to speak, which therefore makes her trading power that much better.

But men do absolutely the same, if you were to make a fake stacy profile asking dudes for pizza and fucking, everyone would say yes.

Low IQ experiment smh.

But men do absolutely the same, if you were to make a fake stacy 4/10 profile asking dudes for pizza and fucking, everyone would say yes.

Low High IQ experiment

FTFY

You got me

You can also catfish guys with hot girl pics on Tinder, so wouldn’t it be true the other way around too? I’d like to see that. And see how guys respond to horrible shit. It’s not just women who care about looks. Also, they aren’t all shallow like that. I don’t see how this is a revelation. It’s all about looks on apps like Tinder anyway. You can’t read personality by swiping through pictures. You shouldn’t use it to calculate your worth. It’s obvious that attractive people are going to get more matches.

excellent work.

I'm going to blackpill all of my friends.

"I like baseball, dogs and anal" wow I have learned much from this post thank you for the information.

NUCLEAR BLACKPILL !!!!!!!!!

These are always fucking great. Looks and status are everything.

"None are innocent like we were once led to believe" Man that is so god damn true, I can't count how many girls I knew and thought they were "innocent" girls, boy was I wrong, sometimes I wish I never heard some stuff about some of them..... Then again maybe I'm just naive.

Easy guys, set the rope down for a minute. Like a couple of the other normies pointed out, you went to a Whorehouse and found whores. That does not ALL WOMEN make. Pull that shit on Christian mingle or fucking Jdate.com and you got something. It was well done and hilarious though, I'll give you that much. Fucking sluts, Jesus. Could a guy be more vapid?

I mean, you're on Tinder and Bumble, which are hook-up apps. It's not surprising women are attracted to good-looking men and men are attracted to good-looking women. That's how life has always been.

Well then maybe the experiment needs to be done on sites POF and OKCupid? He will still get the same results either way... I'll put my bottom dollar on it. The worse thing you can do is make excuses for those shallow whores and thats the problem with the West now. The problem that men are turning a blind eye for the crimes women commit and wome not accepting responsibility for their actions. The same way for instance that women should be to blame if their boyfriends beat them or mentally abuse and that its not because she drools for the risky violent bad boy/thugs is it.

Huh? Dude, I'm saying it's a site for hooking up. You can run that same "experiment" on OKcupid, POF, etc. You'll get the same results (as you say). I'm not making excuses for women, I'm stating it as a fact, good-looking people want to hook-up with good-looking people. Hell, non-good-looking people want to hook-up with good-looking people. It's life bro...

Fuck you rouse... dont brainwash these incels in to inferring that sexual attraction is on a equal basis because it's not. Men will mate with majority of females but women won't fuck a unconditionally unless he's the top 20%. Men are less shallow and capable of mating with women beneath them and that's including Chad. Believe it or not that it's Chad who actually mates with a variety of women off tinder from ugly females to beautiful females so don't give me any of your shite. An yes i am calm when i say all this even if it's a rant. This system is so oppressive to men that men are too blind and ignorant to realise.

Honestly just think of the opportunities that can change the system we live in to a place that suits everyone and i have the secret ingredient... A government welfare program that provides sex workers/escorts for incels on low income. Ohhh man it would be fucking beautiful! The choice and selection of hot females to mate with, honestly what a fucking dream!

Brainwashed? I'm not the one suggesting the government provide sex workers for people who aren't getting laid. I'm not the one blaming my problems on other people I have no control over. Life doesn't owe you anything and neither does the government.

Should this be posted on Inceltears? It's actual hard evidence that they can't argue with!

Imagine being Chad. Life would be so awesome.

Cope, Tinder is a pile of trash

I get plenty of matches and females writing me first, but I still cant get laid. Life is a fucking joke you faggots !

Prove it

Brutal blackpill

Its just so sick women lie that they dont care about looks, height and genes when obviously they do. I'm not feeling disgusted that women only want the Chad Thunder Cock and local violent bad boy/thug...I feel disgusted that even though women do this right in front of us, they still lie. I mean all I want is women to admit that they're shallow whores.

gas femoids ASAP

atomic blackpill

Which one?

6'2". I like women because they make my pee pee feel good.

this is how femoids reacted. There was at least one other femoid who reacted this way.

I laughed so hard I chocked on my cereal.

I call bullshit.

This is the new counter culture

Honestly the funniest part is how OP uses a very attractive guy and still his autism shows in his messages. Going on Pizza dates? what are you 13 year old kid? You go to a bar num nuts.

That's exactly the point. IT losers claim that it's our personalities holding us back but I was able to get numbers even with my autistic personality because I was using Chad's pictures. Looks are all that matters. Personality is a meme.

You’re actually pretty smooth.

I did this for 4 hours now. I lost all motivation to live :(

must be your personality bro

just be an asshole, man!

You really spit game there with that compromises line.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day

Comparing selling cars to fostering interpersonal intimate communication is in the league of retardedness of its' own.

I wish you guys would ban all the vile and cruel posts like “rape women, fuck her, kill em” - you’d get a LOT more serious attention then

where they at doe

I wish less of those posts too. That way maybe we could show how skewed the dating scene is towards women.

This sub is about the black pill Mr. Chad.. these rape posts are not welcome here.

What's your model?

Look on the side bar of the sub, it literrally says to report stuff like that.

Ok you win. Wasn’t trying to say who has it worst, just trying to have a conversation.

Another normie admits that we are right for believing that women don't care about personality yet treats us like we're in the wrong somehow.

Exactly, and it’s weird because a lot of my friends are not even ugly, just normal, and they get low matches with decent pics. Nuts how picky they are

You're dumb like a female. This experiments are not to prove that hot people get attention, it's to prove that no matter how racist, misogynist, nazist or anything you are, women will offer their cunts to you if you are good looking.

Yea... everything is my fault i suppose but with this advice “that i have obviously never tried before” will surely work. Thanks. You got the dating game figured out. Can’t wait to find my Chadlite on Bumble! Yay!

I wish you guys would ban all the vile and cruel posts like “rape women, fuck her, kill em”

Over and over people talk about these supposedly post and I see them nowhere, perhaps you need to stop listening to bullies like IT and make your own opinion like you just did.

Have you had a lot of sex? I'm jealous of your youth

I want to have a lot of success as the guy in the post hooking up. You said that hot people get more attention but how hot you have to be to get as much attention as the guy in the post? (or less but still a lot of attention).

Its just so sick women lie that they dont care about looks, height and genes when obviously they do. I'm not feeling disgusted that women only want the Chad Thunder Cock and local violent bad boy/thug...I feel disgusted that even though women do this right in front of us, they still lie. I mean all I want is women to admit that they're shallow whores.

Huh? Dude, I'm saying it's a site for hooking up. You can run that same "experiment" on OKcupid, POF, etc. You'll get the same results (as you say). I'm not making excuses for women, I'm stating it as a fact, good-looking people want to hook-up with good-looking people. Hell, non-good-looking people want to hook-up with good-looking people. It's life bro...

Yup I agree with this 100%. They may hope to filter out creeps who open up with sexual pickup lines and can't talk about anything else, but might actually be interested in casual sex with someone they can get to know that acts like a normal person.

killallmen trended on twitter lol.