I'm not sure when you were a teen, but current health data suggests teens are waiting longer to have sex, and if they do engage in sex they're more likely to just stick to oral. Young people, on average, are also having less sex than previous generations.
Hmm, well it might have changed, it wasn't that long ago and it seems they're more sexual. But it wouldn't surprise me with how ruined kids are on porn though.
The prevalence of porn has actually increased sexual frustration. Seems counter intuitive, but there it is. Too much porn desensitizes people from what actual intimacy feels like. There is a disconnect between what we see on a screen and what we do with a partner. It creates unrealistic expectations when consumed in excess.
What you mean to say is that the Normies are having less sex than in the past since teenage girls now have access to Tinder and can all get straight to Chad. This means a few Chads are having all the sex while a 2018 Normie gets less sex by the age of 30 than a 1998 Normie had by the age of 20.
You've made quite a huge assumption. Young women are also having less sex than past generations, despite what you may think. It has more to do with the way we socialize (social media, dating sites as you suggested, education, etc) and engage in relationships. Young people are putting off relationships until later in life (including women) and engage in casual sex LESS than those in the 80s and 70s, INCLUDING WOMEN. I'm sorry empirical data does not support your slanted opinions.
Of course women are having less sex! Their partner counts are going down since they skip the Normies and go right to Chad. Did you even try to think this through before replying?
Its like that where I live. Christian people, lots of them, so oral sex in teens, penetrative sex in college. I know some girls that are still virgins actually.
Actually, that's part of their reasoning. lol Ridiculous, I know. The people surveyed for the data also viewed oral sex as less personal than traditional penetration. Concerns over unplanned pregnancies also played a role in the results, even when taking into account the availability of condoms.
This i totally agree. This subreddit calls me a roastie just because ive been with more than one man.
My count is three (including my partner right now) and no they dont interlap coz im not a sex crazed animal...also being busy with high school and college does a good job distracting you from your need to do stuff like that.
I’m going to give you some grammar lessons so we don’t have to translate everything you say into English. I’ll excuse abbreviated phrases like “tf” though.
ok i’m 18 and i’ve never Finish your sentence.
tf?? There should only be one “?” here.
just capitalise “just” bc some girls like to have multiple partners doesn’t mean all of them do?? There should only be one “?” here. like Several Capitalize “like” and de-capitalize “Several” dudes beat up their gfs You need an apostrophe before the “s” when pluralizing abbreviations. there’s are There is are? Remove the “‘s” in “there’s” several hotlines and centres for it but i don’t think all men are abusing pigs so like no Finish your sentence with a period. Remove the “like” in your sentence while you’re at it; you’re a person typing on the internet, not a valley girl talking in real life.
Also i don’t think it’s possible to have 50 partners without dying of something lol Finish your sentence with a period.
In the ghetto, maybe. I knew maybe one or two girls in my entire highschool who started off that early. But then again I'm just a woman taking a stroll in this infamous sub, I know you guys would find whatever way not to believe me.
Not sure about other people, but I would. Any penetrative intercourse, in my opinion, is intercourse. If it wasn't then gay people would technically be virgins, lol.
Yikes, bro, she is sips soy a strong AND independent, her body, HER plays on the nu-switch CHOICE. HOW DARE YOU imply she's a whore, - there's a reason you're virgin incel afterall. Maybe take a shower for once.
He's not going to have sex lol. He might not even raise his own kids. I know it's fantasy of yours to fuck around the world and find some beta loser to marry and use for his money, but don't push it as if it's a good thing lol
No because I'm not trying to sleep with a guy. If women cared about that there'd be less Chads, then then women would have to forgo sleeping with said Chads and we all know THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.
Nope, ever had custard/jam doughnuts from cooperative, they use the same nozzle for every doughnut to fill it up. A male has to spread his genes, it’s biology.
NO BECAUSE WE ARE NOT TRYING TO SLEEP WITH MEN. Most of aren't anyway. Sorry dumb liberal, we don't have to concern ourselves with things that don't effect us.
Disinterest. And I've been friends with a womanizer and had to stop in large part because of his womanizing. I think it's wrong what he did but it's pretty obvious that all those women were trying to equally use him to both their social status because he had money and good looks.
How many guys have you been with? Btw the average is 5-7 partners in a lifetime I believe so the girl in the OP is definitely waaaaay above average in terms of partners.
I guess when you said “And you guys call me a slut.” I assumed that everybody knew your number and still called you a slut. Otherwise, how would they even know?
Okay. Contrary to popular belief, people are individuals and your anecdotal evidence isn't proof of anything. I mean I don't even believe the poster if all they do is lay down all day and play with their phone, how do you even know these women?
all women did used to smoke tho all of society lying to them (giving them a blue pill) and saying it didn't cause cancer. I don't blame women (and men) who smnoked back then after being lied to. but nowadays we give you a black pill so you should stop believing blue pilled nonsense. just like you shouldn't smoke because people have known for years now it causes cancer.
Not an argument. "Everyone is unique" is simply false.
It's easier for women to find guys. Far easier. A guy has to go out and be funny, be confident, be masculine, be ripped be this and that. The well-dominated.disparity in matches and attractiveness
I never argued women don't have an easier time than men. I do challenge the assertion these women all have the personality of a cereal box and literally do absolutely nothing but lay around on their phone all day. If that is "all they do" how does op even know these women? Shit, I have no idea what most people I know do with 75% of their daily lives. Yet OP knows the hourly habits of multiple women?
The most important behavioral/personality trait for women is agreeableness.
That's it.
Step back and think really hard, and you'll realize that many of the girls you think are cool are really just extremely agreeable and willing to talk to you. Not remarkable in any other sense. Granted, most men aren't remarkable in any sense either personality wise.
OkCûpid and Tinder are not representative of most women in most situations. Humans have evolved to seek certain traits in partners depending on whether they want a short-term relationship or an LTR. For LTRs, women actually don't seek just looks -- they prioritize things like resources, the potential to gain more resources, social capital and certain personality traits. Yeah, I know, but it's true. For men, it's the opposite: for LTRs, they report that looks are the most important, although other factors matter as well -- just not as much. In the context of hookups or flings, women's standards become much closer to men's standards: they both prioritize looks.
(I don't know where the accent over the "u" in OkCupid came from, but I'll just leave it there. Why not?)
A lot of incels say that they don't prioritize looks, so they probably qualify as a subgroup that greatly differs from the averages found in these studies.
Tinder, in particular, creates a "hookup mindset." So, a lot of people here are looking at the Tinder experiments and thinking it's over. They don't realize that evolutionary psychologists have discovered that humans prioritize certain traits differently depending on whether they're looking for a romantic LTR or just a hookup. A lot of people here are hyperfocusing on environments where there's a hookup culture -- Tinder, bars, clubs, etc. They're hyperfocusing on these to the exclusion of environments where they'd actually have a chance.
The Tinder experiments are also very questionable. How do we know the authors didn't swap out the text in the bio? Why are only women's initial "hellos" shown? I actually detailed in another comment how to set up a very good Tinder experiment. I don't even have a smartphone, so maybe someone else will do it. There need to be 4 conditions, not just 2 (that is, Chad with evil bio, Chad with nice bio, incel with Dark Chad's bio, and incel with Good Chad's bio). The Evil Bio could mention child molestation. However, the bio text needs to not be so over the top that it looks like a joke or irony ("I'll ruin your life!" would be seen by most women as a joke, and the previous child molester Tinder experiment didn't make sense because the guy shouldn't have been out of prison yet). When women message Dark Chad, Dark Chad should immediately explain that he molested a young child and doesn't regret it, and that he's being serious and needs to inform her in case she's around kids. Then screencap your explanation and their reactions. Screencap messages for the other 3 conditions, too.
Boom: A blackpill not so easily dismissed, if it even turns out to be a blackpill.
So, why do I say that an incel would ever actually have a chance? Because a lot of incels look average or only just slightly below average. (Some are extremely unattractive or have deformities or birth defects, and I'm not denying that, but I am denying that most of you are in such an extreme situation.) If they keep trying Tinder and clubs, it's just not going to work, because women will be thinking about who's the most physically attractive instead of thinking about other factors, and they've got a million men to choose from. Yet average men have sex all the time. If you don't ever see average couples, it's probably because A) You don't go out much; B) You aren't noticing the average couples because the Chads and Stacys stand out so much more when you're in that hopeless mindset, and the sight of normal couples is not fully processed by the brain; or C) You're in high school and most of the couples involve Chad or Stacy or both, and that's because attractive people also tend to be socially precocious, so they start dating earlier.
Firstly, for your Dark Chad bio and conversation, why didn't you give him lines like "I just got out of prison for assault," "I've cheated on all my past girlfriends," "I beat the fuck out if my last girlfriend for talking shit, she deserved it anyway, " "Women are only good for fucking and nohing else,"
Those could be done, too, just as long as Dark Chad makes it clear that he isn't messing around. Lines like that could easily be interpreted as just shock value joking, which other people have criticized previous Tinder experiments for. A woman might not know that he's NOT just messing with her until deep into the conversation, which makes them a bit inconvenient.
I used child molestation as an example because another incel did a Tinder experiment with a child molester, and because just about nobody will jokingly announce that, and insist that, they molested a kid. It's also convenient because some places require you to inform other people of the molestation conviction if there's any chance that they have kids around. So Dark Chad could make an official statement at or very near the beginning of the conversation.
Your attempt at psychoanalysis is waayyy off, my dude. Other incels made Dark Chad profiles with molestation. They didn't just suggest them as examples, they went and made them. Its shock value is exactly what made it stand out to so many incels, and that's why those incels chose it. That's why I used it as an example. Are you going to go psychoanalyze the incels who made the original child molester profiles, too? Because I'm willing to bet that when they do it, you don't see anything wrong with it because they're just using the intensity of it to show how degenerate women are. If I do it for same reason -- its intensity -- you don't approve. Why the double standard?
And why the hostility toward conducting a well-designed experiment, instead of one that most non-incels don't believe because it's so badly designed and they see so many holes in it?
I keep hearing Jeremy Meeks' name over here. Who the hell is he? Some buff actor or something? I don't keep up with shit like that. Imma Google him now. (I haven't seen many movies or shows and I'm very out of the loop when it comes to pop culture.)
"For LTRs,.women have different priorities..." lurk more. The betabux meme is based off this. You should know this
I'm using actual research. As in, published scholarly articles in scholarly journals, because I'm a PhD student in evolutionary psychology and I have some damn standards. I'm not going to believe Reddit randos who don't understand the first thing about genetics and evolutionary biology over actual, well-conducted, thorough scholarly research. Memes are not research. One of the things that disappoints me about this community is that some people pretend to understand genetics and evolutionary biology when it's very obvious that they don't. If someone made an intelligent proposal, I'd definitely want to follow up on it and investigate it, though.
With that said... women in the West tend to look for short term relationships while they're young adults, so if you look in places that encourage hookup culture, you're fighting the fact that most of them will prioritize appearance and social dominance. It's also true that women tend to stop doing this later in life. It's also true that, on average, married couples (LTRs) have less sex as more time passes. (That's not a surprise on the evo psych side, as humans are probably more like serial monogamists, although that of course doesn't preclude some cultures from being polygamist or strictly monogamous). Also, hookup culture has become even more of a thing in the West, particularly with Tinder and the like. We don't know how it will turn out. But that doesn't make your meme science. We need actual research.
Why is it that guys, on average have to all but crawl over broken glass just to get laid?
They do not. I've seen plenty of average and even bad-looking, awkward as hell guys get laid and get girlfriends. Like, during my four year college days, I could literally hear the metronomic squeaking of bedsprings as bad-looking and awkward guys pounded girls. Not sorority girls, but still girls.
It will feel impossible if you're putting yourself in an unrealistic situation (trying to hit on a woman in a club when she's surrounded by a thousand Chads because that's what clubs are for, basically). I know this is tired advice, but it really does work for a lot of people. Go to an interest club. (This is how the majority of the awkward/unattractive guys I know found girlfriends.) Join a charity. Join a sports group. Get an adorable dog and take it walking where the ladies are. This has a very good chance of working out for you if you're average or a bit below average and can hold an interesting conversation. I won't claim that it will work if you're extremely unattractive or have a prominent birth defect or something of the like. That's a very sad reality, but I don't know how to fight it.
How is it any more well-designed? It's far less realistic. And in any case, even joking about anything close to this shit (beating up women, etc.) is going to get you disqualified if you have average looks.
Jeremy Meeks is known as the living embodiment of the blackpill. You've looked him up, you know what he's about. Trust me, they knew well he wasn't joking or just being "over the top."
The betabux meme agrees with you, that women focus more on the guy as a provider. The meme is based of what you're claiming about women. The implication is that women settle for a guy because he can provide and has a stable income.
I brought up the central incel thesis, that women are much worse at discriminating on looks. You haven't really answered this. Consider why the male incel population dwarfs the female one. Consider why, when everyone is focused in look, women do so much better than men on Tinder at all. Or other sites, or in bars and clubs.
Most of my friends are girls, I've spent hundreds of hours talking to girls and making them laugh. I've asked girls out in college. I'm not ugly, but I'm quite feminine looking, and I've failed in every endeavour.
I'm not claiming "all women," or 100%. Nor am I claiming that women are degenerate sociopaths at heart. Men overlook certain bad qualities in hot girls too. BUT women have a tremendous towards dating across and UP whereas men are happy to, on average, date across and DOWN.
And in any case, even joking about anything close to this shit (beating up women, etc.) is going to get you disqualified if you have average looks.
That's an assertion that needs to be tested. The atomic memes usually only show responses to Chad. Showing responses to the average or incel profile would make it a lot more powerful, because it would show the contrast. Most non-incels are smart enough to know that showing only Chad's results without comparing them to the average person or incel's results doesn't demonstrate anything except that women do in fact reply to those Chad bios. It doesn't say anything about the state of incels, which would be useful information. Thus the 4 conditions. How does a nice incel or normie do, compared to a Dark Chad?
But mostly, I'm hoping someone will set up an experiment where they make sure that the replying women know that Dark Chad is actually being serious and not employing shock value flirting, which is definitely a thing. Then capture their responses when it dawns on them that Dark Chad is not joking. None of the previous experiments I'm aware of did this. They mostly just capped "Hellos" and the like, which just leaves too many holes to poke into it.
BUT women have a tendency towards dating across and UP whereas men are happy to, on average, date across and DOWN.
The research agrees with this claim.
brought up the central incel thesis, that women are much worse at discriminating on looks. You haven't really answered this. Consider why the male incel population dwarfs the female one. Consider why, when everyone is focused in look, women do so much better than men on Tinder at all. Or other sites, or in bars and clubs.
Again, Tinder, bars, and clubs are environments that bring out womens' preferences and standards in relation to hookups. So, per the research, it's not surprising that women would focus more on looks in such settings. That's at least a good part of why they discriminate based on looks so hard. It's the setting you're in.
Why are there so many incels now? Well, the modern environment is quite different from the one we evolved in. Men and women are 50/50, there aren't lots of men dying in wars or hunts. And men who would have otherwise died in childhood (for a variety of reasons, usually some sort of weakness, such as easy susceptibility to diseases) go on to become adults. And the majority of incels are young men in high school or their twenties. Therefore, they're still trapped in the hookup culture. Because, well, now we have an extended young adulthood to go along with an extended childhood, and hooking up is now considered okay by a lot of people.
Research suggests that women seeking LTRs place great emphasis on a mate's resources or potential to gain those resources, and because of the halo effect and a few other things, unattractive men are also more likely to work undesirable jobs and be poor, and people expect them to be poor losers, so they avoid them. There aren't arranged marriages. Fewer people are marrying anyway, and they're marrying at later ages (so the carefree hookup years extend throughout the twenties). So incels aren't considered viable for marrying, either. That is, if they're actually deformed or mentally disabled. Most incels think they're ugly as shit when they're pretty normal, maybe a bit below average. Many incels have a very strong negative bias towards themselves.
As for hooking up, the advent of apps like Tinder allows women to congregate around men who seem socially dominant (which is, on average, important to women in hookup settings). As I said, the literature supports this.
The problem is that many incels here are young adults, and because women marry later, there are more years for clubbing and hooking up. So you're stuck in a short-term relationship, hookup-oriented environment where women will usually seek the most dominant and attractive man they can find. You're stuck in it for years and years.
So, it can be hard to imagine that when women get into a more LTR mindset, they don't still have the same standards at heart. LTR standards are more about resources and personality, which can translate to the "beta buxx" meme. However, the meme carries the connotation that the woman secretly thinks you're pathetic and doesn't love you, just your money, and she only entered an LTR with you because she was afraid of "hitting the wall," and she will do anything she can to secretly fuck Chad behind your back. That's some weird projection shit that doesn't have anything to do with the actual research findings.
Maybe there could be a child molester version (to match the previous experiment) and another with something like spousal abuse. It would be interesting to compare the two versions, actually. What if the spousal abuser and the pedophile get the same number of responses?
I definitely don't think that people are incel because of what they post on the net. But yeah, that explains why it's pushed so hard over here. It's a pushback against IT.
I hope you realise how much suicide fuel this is.
You asked. I answered. You already knew what the answer would be, I'm guessing. I don't want to dump suifuel on you, but you literally asked me to explain it.
In other words, we should be dead, but instead here we are, to live a miserable existence. An even stronger incentive to rope. I can't believe this. This can't be happening.
I'm not saying you should be dead. This is an is vs. ought thing. Sickly and frail babies and children died back then. They just did. We didn't have the medical technology to save them. That doesn't mean that you morally should be dead, or that they morally should have died. It just happened because we didn't have the means to save them.
I don't know anything about you, but you may not have been sickly and frail as a child at all. If that's the case, this wouldn't even apply to you. Sickly and frail kids died, not average-looking and average-strength kids.
"Settling" doesn't mean that a woman secretly doesn't love you. I see this mistake all the time. Let's assume that women have evolved to "settle" if exposed to certain environmental or internal physiological cues. This doesn't mean the emotion is fake. Crying is an evolved signal, but sadness is not fake. Anger is an evolved response and signal, but anger is not fake. And etc. Honestly, it's rather silly to think that if a behavior has evolved, there can't be genuine emotion attached to it. I mean, damn... fear is probably the strongest example. We've evolved to engage in fight or flight behavior when threatened. So we engage in the behavior. Does it mean we aren't feeling scared? Of course not.
You asked, I answered. I'm sorry. I'll PM you later.
The reason I reacted so strongly is because, ostensibly, I saw you as someone trying to disprove the blackpill, and was answering you from that standpoint. So when you confirm like two-thirds of the blackpill
Hookup culture is a thing now, and it lasts throughout people's twenties. Hookup culture and hookup settings bring out women's preferences in regard to short-term relationships (social dominance and attractiveness are prioritized). Most incels are very young, in high school or in their twenties. So they're stuck for years in this culture where women congregate around the most attractive, dominant men they can find. That's why there are so many incels.
Also: No arranged marriages at fairly early ages (so hooking up is still going on throughout people's twenties). Fewer marriages in general. No men dying in wars or hunts. No men dying of disease or frailty in childhood -- they live on.
Online dating is proof of nothing. Women can select as they want in online dating - another person is literally a movement of your thumb away. It's not that easy irl, and meeting new, like minded people is harder than that, so women will chase people they like rather than only the ones they're blown away by.
I hope you did see it. I used to be like you, years ago. All I’m saying is that your personality may be part of the factor making them not want you, and that’s something you can easily improve. It seems widely accepted here that if you don’t have an attractive face, it’s hopeless. It’s just not true.
one of the reasons the rich push rugged individualism with their capitalism is the ydon't want workers of the world to unite. we're much more easier to control if we don't organize.
Do you know what data is? It's a collection of micro-anecdotes. What's the difference between saying "I know ten women who have notch counts above 100" and "I conducted a study asking 500 women what their notch counts were and ten of them responded above 100"? Data IS anecdotes.
That's not entirely true, as a girl, my hobbies also include Netflix, travel, and eating pizza. And by travel I mean looking at pictures of Paris on Insta, I've never actually traveled anywhere by myself.
Lol the thing is rewatching Friends or The Office for the 12th time, dicking around on snapchat or IG all day, and going out every night is perfectly acceptable, even encouraged for young women. Meanwhile I gotta juggle three hobbies, exercise daily, and focus on my career for the chance to betabux lmao. Fuck that
They'll rewatch sitcoms on netflix for the umpteenth time, and lay down on the couch using those two exact apps - and their lives are simple and filled with happiness.
You are delusional if you think their lives are filled with happiness. No one who seeks the amount of attention you are suggesting these women have is actually confident and needs validation. She’s not happy.
Uber cope - I'm unhappy, having to juggle the amount of shit I do to make myself interesting without having a nervous breakdown from piling that shit on top of 18 hours in Uni. A foid having life served to her on a silver platter by all her orbiters and doing nothing but whoring out on social media is possibly the happiest organism on earth, since her needs are covered and she spends the time on idle leisure instead of physically or mentally exhaustive activities.
The notion that we just have to improve our personality or find hobbies is ridiculous. It's a cope by society to cover up how fucked up it is.
It's because normies have already unconsciously accepted that it's easier for women. When they tell you to go to the personality gym they aren't saying that it will make it as easy for you as a woman (literally nothing will) they think that it will make it as easy for you as a chad - they've swallowed the blue pill so hard they legitimately believe personality is everything and that is all that separates one from getting a gf.
Wanna point me to your source for this broad "they" you're talking about?
5'9 150 lbs not very traditionally masculine guy who has struggled with lots of anxiety and OCD traits I've worked on through adolescence and adulthood here. Been sexually intimate with 50+ women (not that that's a good metric of any sort of success with intimacy anyway for anyone who doesn't call themselves a pick up artist) when 10 years ago I thought I was, like you guys, entirely undesirable by the vast majority of women in the world.
You ever have a floating thought that your self defeating narratives only serve to help you cope with your fears around intimacy or is that just another thing a normie who doesn't understand isolation and anxiety and delving into the internet for 8+ hours a day throughout adolescence to cope with the pain?
thank you for agreeing with me, you guys are all using these self defeating, bitter narratives to justify your fear of being intimate with and loving others. Wishing you well in taking the next step.
It's not even fear, I wish I could have a gf but every time I try to take the next step I'm viciously shot down and publicly humiliated for trying with even the least attractive women in my immediate surroundings. You don't get to a 37 IRL rejection count by being afraid of being intimate, you dimwit.
You don't get to a 37 IRL rejection count by being afraid of being intimate, you dimwit.
You kind of are proving my point my guy. My rejection count is somewhere far, far north of 300. 1000 doesn't sound quite right but depending on your metrics, that might not be far off. Keep going out there and getting rejected and being in integrity of yourself and leave women who aren't into you the fuck alone, and eventually you're gonna find someone who you connect with.
This is the thing I find ironic about them, they keep throwing out the words "fact" and "truth" then treat anecdotal evidence like its a 40 year long peer reviewed study.
These types of actions are common place in anyone who isn't interested in the truth of reality. They find whatever trivial evidence perpetuates the narrative they want to exist in and ignore everything else. It's a sad state of affairs.
Nah, even virgin girls like guys with low partner counts over virgin men. If we lived in a better world I'd wait til marriage, but I don't have that luxury.
It would if women wanted virgin men, but they don't.
You can't hold different sexes to the same sexual standards. It's like thinking guys like rich 6'3" muscular girls because girls like rich 6'3" muscular guys.
but it’s only you guys and radical religious people that care. being a virgin is not shameful. your perspective of men and women’s sexuality is, for lack of a better term, rooted in bullshit. sorry to be crass
wtf? i was literally just trying to tell u guys that i’m 19 and i have not slept with a ton of people. i was trying to be genuine and tell u that i don’t think it’s shameful to be a virgin. you’re so up yourself and u victimize urself so much that u can’t even see that i’m not even trying to offend.
every single one of you is ridiculous. we all know you just wanna be fucked and treated like an actual person and if you were you wouldn’t be so cynical. talk alllll the shit you want but at the end of the day at least i get physical contact with other human beings. something you guys will never feel because of how DELUSIONAL you are. ur all mentalcels at this point.
waiting till marriage is a leftover idea from religion. Religion wants to control as much of the population as possible, so saying premarital sex is a sin is how they tried to control their followers.
Fun fact, marriage used to be considered a damnable pagan sin in Catholicism, but when religious leaders realized people need to have sex to make babies and indoctrine them into the religion they decided to make marriage a holy sacrament. This didnt happen till 1184.
Now that the world is more intertwined we continue to step away from the idea that sex is sinful. Of course many individuals still believe this to be true and thats their right.
Having a preference for a persons sexual count or virginity is, in my book, very shallow and shows a lack of reasoning. I believe a person life before me was their own, i dont care to know exact details of their sexual conduct, as long as they're not a cheater (past cheating shows a lack of morals imo and i wont date a cheater) and as long as their std/sti/baby free im happy.
I actually preffer knowing my partner has had previous expirences, it gives me peace of mind that they wont be "curioud about other people" 5 years down the road, and its far far better imo to know that they really love you fully, not just becuase they dont know anything else.
to me, requiring a young virgin shows a lot of self doubt.
all i was trying to say was you say ALL women are whores no matter what. i’ve been in 5 committed relationships so i had sex with them. i’ve never had sex with someone i wasn’t committed to. i’ve never had friends with benefits. i’ve never slept around. i’m definitely not a whore no matter what you wanna call me
I’m don’t want to call you anything darling, I’m just always amazed that for women getting a boyfriend is like ordering pizza. Hell, even easier, they have to pay for pizza after all.
If you've had 5 relationships by the time you're 19 then there was nothing serious about that. You dumbass whore femoids are so fucking low IQ it's baffling.
like why are y'all these incels so mean?? you're not a whore its totes normal for people to have 5 serious relationship by age 19 and 500 by age 40. geez these guys are totes in the stone age LOL you go queen!!
Oh I forgot to include the big /S since femaloids are too dense.
You're getting pretty seriously bashed here, to be fair, 5 relationships of over a year at 19 means you've pretty much been in a relationship constantly since the age of 14. I absolutely disagree with the idea that you're a whore, but you should understand that most people here are men who haven't gotten so much as a kiss and they're in their mid twenties or older, can you imagine the loneliness and the torture of knowing you're completely undesirable? And girls your age with five times your n-count are not a rarity, if you have any amount of female friends you know this to be true.
its definitely not “insanely high”. everyone around me has had many more partners. especially when i was in high school. besides i’m turning 20 in a couple months and don’t see my count getting higher anytime soon.
I been telling you guys on here that are hopeful for a young White virgin wife, by the time these girls turn 18 many have been with 15-25 guys, by 19 its 25-50 because they have hit their college years, they are probably out on their own and can have as much casual sex as they want.
Yeah dude 400 pound whale I was with had a count of 5 at 22. You don’t know repulsive until you see the fat rolls hit each other after she took her shirt off.
Just a visitor to this sub - why are you guys obsessed with getting a white woman? Sure I get that you guys hate women in general and think all women are worthless, but why the additional racism?
Sure, there's a lot of racism towards black people. But for the most part it's still quite extreme to say that another race of people are animals. And you know which famous person openly thought black people were animals? Adolf Hitler.
Noones saying that they are animals moron. Were saying they have higher crime and std rates which is factually true, thus we dont want modern day white sluts that are coalburners and toxic feminists. Get it?
Im not. Im actually encouraging guys on here to forget White women and date non White women. Ive explained that most White women are toxic feminists or used goods now adays, as most White women think its trendy and cool to have casual hookups with black drug dealers
Thats all i have seen, i havent seen a post where anybody as yet to say a nice thing about any woman, in retrospect ive only been here 3 or 4 days but that's hours of reading material and alot of hatred toward us. I get it, i guess the majority of females have slept with a few men, i dont tend to ask or even socialise with them to be able to ask and i get it females are horrible and shallow and fucking cunts and youre sick of it but dayum its a whole other world over here, i know i dont belong here and im just a lurker getting an insight into this world...i aint even gonna apologise on behalf of women cos i aint apart of that world i dont wanna be.
I've got a lot of nice things to say about nice women. This just isn't the place. We talk about shitty women here. The people who come here to attack us are shitty women who are mad at us for being mad at shitty women
Ah i guess you know that makes sense, this is a place where you can all come to talk about how shitty women treat you shitty. Im not here to attack anyone, it actually worried me, i see that a lot of you are nerds and geeks (not a bad thing im a massive nerd and geek) and have a bunch of the same interests has me and i hated to think that if i ever went to a magic the gathering or dungeons and dragons game you'd all hate me when I'm a paranoid anxiety ridden anti social wreck as it is, then again to even see me out of the house would be a miracle. Thank you for the epiphany, literally.
if you guys could sleep with 50 people you were interested in, you would. why wouldn't you, if you had the opportunity to. what's out of the ordinary here?
I have friends, a GF and a family who loves me, I'm doing very good. Hating women is just something that I do here, IRL i'm a normie as a normie can be.
lumping everyone into 1 warped view that you have, doesn't really make any sense. all you're doing is generating a toxic view of a giant group of people because you disagree with a small few. you're missing out on a great experience, because of your attitude. I have pity for you, buddy.
weird, you'd think since I've been with more than 5 women, id at least have come across 1/5 personalities that match that one, but I havent. maybe there are more than 5. xD
I've met girls who like the office. I've never met a girl waiting for her jim or saying extremely cringey things like what you typed. you obviously got that from watching tv. you realize women are a lot different in tv shows, right?
No, Im saying just because a girl like the tv show, doesn't automatically mean she fits your "I love Jim" mold that you said earlier.
All it comes down to, dude, is that you're super angry. You are angry and unhappy with your life and you are using women as a scapegoat for all your problems. I get it, dude. I dealt with a very close family member who was going down this same rabbit hole.
Your toxicity and rage are warping your point of view and it really sucks. Instead of being somewhat happy with what you do have, your becoming more and more angry and toxic. I wish all the best for you and hope 1 day, something snaps you outta this.
also, first you said girls losing their virginity when they were 9. then you said when THEY were 12. not when you were 12. that's why I said "oh now it's 12?" so try following along to your own comments :)
The original comments make it pretty clear I was talking about girls my age were losing their virginity when they were 12 and girls now probably younger
But seeing as we are just going in circles and you're adding nothing to any meaningful conversation I'll just report you and be on my way
and that point is that some people have advantages over other people? yea, that's life. everyone has advantaged and disadvantages over other people. that's life. it's not fair, why should it be? just means people like you need to work harder to get what you want.
people in here complaining that other people are getting laid and they cant. because they are at a disadvantage. how "chads" have it so easy, etc.
you have advantages over people in poverty. you have advantages over people starving to death. you have advantages over millions and millions, if not billions of other people.
instead of looking up and being envious, look down and be be grateful
certainly, i agree with what your saying, this is a pretty unhealthy obsession and i think stems from my envious and maybe slightly narcissistic nature.
slightly off-topic, but we shouldn't accept economic inequality because 'life's unfair bucko' when our economic system is entirely created by us. i think we all have a duty to do our best to undermine capitalism and see to its end, if we want to pretend that everyone should be given a fair chance.
the same can not be said about our 'incel' situation, due it it being a primarily natural problem (aside from beauty standards portrayed by media and popular culture). i think for us, we just have to be grateful for the things we do have.
I think that's a really fair way of looking at it.
economy wise, I very much agree that something seriously needs to be fixed and CAN be fixed, for everyone, in North america, anyway, to live comfortably.
I'm sorry nature wasn't fair to you with genetics. the only reason I bring up being toxic and supporting toxicity is I've seen it destroy someone close to me and having all that hatred and anger, isn't worth it
I never said I condone it. I said it's life. you can't force people to be attracted to how someone looks.
I agree that hurtful posts about how incels look or how anyone looks, is not a nice way to act, but, acting this way about a 19 year old girls personal decisions, is just as evil and toxic
That’s a lot of people, geez.
Although if you compare the number of times she has had sex, it probably equals about the same number that would happen if she was in one long-term relationship for the same duration.
No what? And I don’t know, at first glance it just seems like a very large number and certainly well above the average, but then if you think about how being in a long-term relationship could lead to you having sex almost every day for years, it’s not actually more sex. It’s just different people. It could even be less sex.
I mean I was totally about to judge the hell out of her for that ridiculously high number, but then I thought about it and realized why the hell does it matter that it’s coming from many different people?
Just because I decided not to judge her for it doesn’t mean that’s what I want to do too. Everybody has different sex drives and emotional states. I am currently in a long-term relationship so I’m good.
You realise that you’re mocking a girl for the amount of people she had sex with whilst complaining you’re being judged for the amount of people you’ve had sex with?
I am 47 years old, not terrible looking, and I have had 2.
I did the girl I lost my virginity to once. I had a 5 year relationship where we did it a lot, that's it.
50 partners is a whore, pure and simple, I'm sorry but it is true.
Seriously? I'll send a pic bro, if that's what it takes.
I am 20 years out without a hug, a kiss, a handhold, or a fuck.
NOT A CHAD, women find me repulsive, and yes, I am 6 feet tall to the millimeter.
Dude, I'm new to this forum because someone told me about Incels at work because he thought I sounded like an Incel.
I never heard of you guys before 5/21/18.
I will make a positive contribution to this forum, if anything,
Because I was one of the lucky Incels to get fucked.
It took a lot of work, for both of the women I fucked, it's not easy,
But once I got past 30, chicks started treating me like
'CHUNK' from the Goonies movie..
You'll see. I hate 'em, with the best of 'em.
I guess that makes me 'Chad, King of THE INCELS'
With 2 notches on his belt.
I do feel sorry for you though, if that is what you want to hear.
I lost my virginity at 19 to my friends girlfriend, who was obviously a caring soul.
I gave her a backrub that turned into the hottest sex of my life.
How? Do you think I did that? As an Incel?
It took work, and that girl was a total whore [cute though].
BTW, I'm sportin' 5 inches on a good day, and yes, size matters to the ladies.
It's over for me, and I know it. I've been depressed most of my life, because I know, deep down
That I can't fuck a chick 'deep down'. And I wish more than anything that, that didn't matter, because I am a good and decent man.
Chads, are not good or decent, they are fuckpoles that women want.
Don't tell me, you can't face me.
I am, 'King of the Incels' already.
My God, if you virgins can't respect the advice of elders, where are you going to be in 20 years, like me?
Women, are driven by their vaginas to love and fuck the wrong men.
Is that our fault?
It is your duty, to be the right man who gets denied anyways.
It's what we do.
It is indeed OVER, but why are hot chicks denied you?
Because, women, are more than you, that's the Truth boyo.
They're better. They are prettier,
They, are sexy.
It's more about numbers THAN YOU THINK.
tHAT'S HOW i GOT LAID.
My first ex was a more than a 6 inch while my current partner is an exact 6 (meaning first ex has more length)
But the thing is first ex never made me orgasm. In a two year and a half relationship not once did he ever make me go to cloud nine.
Then my current partner came to my life, shorter yes but his length was the perfect fit for mine. My first ex i guess was too long(which made it hurt) and he only fuck to make himself cum. My current partner on the other hand as much as possible wants ME to orgasm first, if not he tries to make me cum multiple times after he had his (its easy to orgasm multiple times for a woman after having so once then have continuous stimulation)
No its not the length that makes you unable to find another woman. Maybe your personality changed maybe youre not as charming, approachable and friendly to women nowadays. Youre like a really tall guy right? Sometimes being so huge is intimidating for women, to make them accept you easier you have to show that youre not so big and scary.
From what i read in this comment thread you made..you probably became more introverted towards women which leads to no more interaction with any female...meaning no girlfriend.
Nah, there is no prostitues in my country or better worded it is illegal and don't know anyone who fucks for money. I'm gonna have to wait for 2-3 years and go in netherlands where is legal.
What i meant is i know a lot of sluts, who fuck normies too, for free, i'm just too ugly for her to fuck me.
learn to take criticism and ignore it if you know for sure it is not right. You don't have to take everything to heart or explain everything to anonymous people on the net. People will mock you for having sex twice because no incels here have ever even felt the touch of a woman (without paying for it as in some cases).
Woman here
Watching you guys eating each other's guts over who is chad and who is incel is particularly entertaining welcome to incel world that how tjings work here, dumbass.
This is a hate group. Incels come here to spill hate. What did you expect?
No one is going to say "well said" to you
We're talking about people who are are chronically depressed, sometimes to the point of wanting to commit suicide. Please have some human empathy and don't talk about suicidal people as if they're animals in a zoo.
A lot of them have been extensively bullied or mocked, and so they are distrustful. So they post pretty harsh things. The world hasn't been kind to these souls. That doesn't mean they're a hate group -- they're not even organized. Sure, some individual incels are hateful. But many aren't. You shouldn't try to paint everyone with the same brush when there are quite a few individual differences between people here. The public posts and comments are often memes and hyperbolic cynical statements. That doesn't necessarily mean that the people posting that hyperbolic stuff are hateful or even necessarily believe it. Really, it doesn't. Also, there are a lot of trolls and fake accounts that post shocking things so that they can be screencapped and posted on IT. I've talked to enough people here to know that this isn't really a hate group.
If you were hot, you could probably fuck one girl a week. That’s around 50 a year. Just because you’re bitter about not being super attractive doesn’t mean you should put down others because they are.
Yes, 50 partners is excessive. But I don't get you guys trying to play it off as average. I'm 19 and most women I know have had one, two, or none at all. It's not average to have fifty partners at this age, if ever. You guys are specifically and purposefully chasing the kind of women who you feel like you can easily pick apart and condescend. If only you guys actually tried to get to know someone without first assuming that she's already not good enough, then you wouldn't be involuntarily celibate.
fuck. fucking fuck my shit up fam. FUCK MY SHIT UP. JUST...
JUST.
FUCK. it's so over. Muhammad Ali RadiAllahu anh said "you think your wife is yours? die, go to heaven, visit your bedroom as a ghost a year later. you still think she's yours? I'm trying to get good with God so this afterlife will be peaceful for me"
Exactly. This is one of the many reasons you guys need to drop the whole virgin girl bulllshit. No such thing once a girl reaches around 15. An incel asking for a white virgin is literally a beggar asking for the holy grail.
And the occasional hook up if and when they happen. Or making peace with the fact that the girl you finally do get will have a past. Finding things you care about almost as much as ass and being in a relationship. If you build things or are some kind of artist you can still leave something behind that is part of your creation. I sound like a fucking hippy it's true. And psychedelic drugs, don't leave the earth without having had a few trips passed the vail.
She's not an exception.
I know a girl at work, she is 20, has had many, many fucks.
She's nice, but Jesus,
How many guys do you have to fuck, before you realize, men have feelings?
she's board_gaming, a femoid mod on braincels. No one likes her here. As a general rule, always downvote regardless of what she has to say. She also weighs 220 pounds. Just helping out a newfag.
I'm 47, I cannot believe most of the chicks I am seeing are sexually active, but they have fucked everyone. Everyone, that is not me of course.
I do indulge in Porn, however,
I know, a 14 inch, black cock fits inside a demure and beautiful white girl.
She, does not dream of anything less. BLACK PILL
Normie here. What's more Roastie guys, a girl that's fucked 40 individual guys once or a girl that has fucked 2 guys 500 times over a few years? Get the numbers out of your heads. Because
1: you will never find a virgin white girl of legal age.
2: if you did you're the last person she was saving herself for. If she's waited that long she's pickier than your average Stacie. There are no modest attractive women.
3: you're in no position to be picky. Just get some ass asap.
4: you can't hold it against them. They're only doing what you would do if only you could.
5: I believe most of you really want a virgin because you're afraid if you do get laid you'll just be rejected again because of your lack of experience. You don't need to worry about this. There's not that much to it. You've seen porn, just do that. Hell, if you even bother to care enough to try and do a good job you're already ahead of most of the guys they've fucked.
A whore who fucks lots of guys are much more prone to cheat. Each new dick she has meaningless sex with is basically she fucking the intimacy out of her pussy. After so many partners sex become something meaningless and then when she decide to marry someone sex will still be meaningless.
I really really wish I could find a comment made by an user here who explained it so good that I will always remember it. If someone can help me please. The comment is only a few days old.
I understand. So to you the obvious answer is the girl who only fucked 40 times but with 40 guys is more of a Roastie than the girl who fucked 500 times with 2 guys. I just want to get a better idea of what makes a Roastie. I actually agree, I just would never use the name Roastie.
Maybe she meant 50 times? I'm pretty black-pilled, but 50 different guys while still a teenager seems difficult to achieve without her lowering her standards well below Chad tier. Did you have regular exposure to 50+ Chads at that age? This chick is barely out of high school, and most male high school student's are very unattractive.
Idk she sounds like she’s lying to seem sexy and outgoing? Im 20 years old and i only had like 3 sexual partners including my current relationship..
First one is my first ex, second is some rebound guy who took advantage of my emotional vulnerability due to recent break up with first ex..third is my partner right now for more than a year and a half.
Sleeping around with that many people is like asking to die of a cocktail of stds
She probably fucked 500 guys. The other 450 were not counted because they were “mistakes” or “that happened” or “what goes on in A foreign country stays in another country” tee hee hee
Femoid - someone who cares - who touches her clit.
Femoid - Someone who can touch her clit.
Femoid - Someone makes 100Gs, or someone better looking can touch my clit.
It is, all about looks with Fembots.
I’m 19 and I’ve had sex with one man, my boyfriend. I have had one other man’s penis in my mouth but that was completely unconsenual, even if that counts all of 2 ppl. Idk where y’all are finding these girls.
The prevalence of porn has actually increased sexual frustration. Seems counter intuitive, but there it is. Too much porn desensitizes people from what actual intimacy feels like. There is a disconnect between what we see on a screen and what we do with a partner. It creates unrealistic expectations when consumed in excess.
The most important behavioral/personality trait for women is agreeableness.
That's it.
Step back and think really hard, and you'll realize that many of the girls you think are cool are really just extremely agreeable and willing to talk to you. Not remarkable in any other sense. Granted, most men aren't remarkable in any sense either personality wise.
Sure, there's a lot of racism towards black people. But for the most part it's still quite extreme to say that another race of people are animals. And you know which famous person openly thought black people were animals? Adolf Hitler.
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1 chillenyo2 2018-05-23
Haha why so few
1 NetscapeNavigator9 2018-05-23
Genius response tbh
1 FireAlarm911 2018-05-23
Absolutely haram
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
be
1 KhalilYousuf3 2018-05-23
/r/theWhitePill
1 RIP1488 2018-05-23
Allah Akhbar
1 General_Duggah 2018-05-23
(PUBG)
1 Madeon929 2018-05-23
Why are you even surprised? Most women start around 14-15 years old.
1 Luna4x0 2018-05-23
In your weird fantasy realm, and maybe in the 80s. Current stats show otherwise. Teenagers are more likely to engage in oral sex than penetration.
1 Madeon929 2018-05-23
I don’t know what your problem is...
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-23
Don't mind us, we've just been living on Earth these past years
1 A1C_SubZero 2018-05-23
That's pretty untrue. At least when I was a teen.
1 Luna4x0 2018-05-23
I'm not sure when you were a teen, but current health data suggests teens are waiting longer to have sex, and if they do engage in sex they're more likely to just stick to oral. Young people, on average, are also having less sex than previous generations.
1 A1C_SubZero 2018-05-23
Hmm, well it might have changed, it wasn't that long ago and it seems they're more sexual. But it wouldn't surprise me with how ruined kids are on porn though.
1 Luna4x0 2018-05-23
The prevalence of porn has actually increased sexual frustration. Seems counter intuitive, but there it is. Too much porn desensitizes people from what actual intimacy feels like. There is a disconnect between what we see on a screen and what we do with a partner. It creates unrealistic expectations when consumed in excess.
1 A1C_SubZero 2018-05-23
Oh yeah, I'm agreeing with you on that. Porn is awful for you. But that's a whole other post in itself.
1 bigman4004 2018-05-23
What you mean to say is that the Normies are having less sex than in the past since teenage girls now have access to Tinder and can all get straight to Chad. This means a few Chads are having all the sex while a 2018 Normie gets less sex by the age of 30 than a 1998 Normie had by the age of 20.
1 Luna4x0 2018-05-23
You've made quite a huge assumption. Young women are also having less sex than past generations, despite what you may think. It has more to do with the way we socialize (social media, dating sites as you suggested, education, etc) and engage in relationships. Young people are putting off relationships until later in life (including women) and engage in casual sex LESS than those in the 80s and 70s, INCLUDING WOMEN. I'm sorry empirical data does not support your slanted opinions.
1 bigman4004 2018-05-23
Of course women are having less sex! Their partner counts are going down since they skip the Normies and go right to Chad. Did you even try to think this through before replying?
1 suicidal-pothead 2018-05-23
Can you show me where you saw this? Not even trying to debate to be honest because I suck at that, just genuinely curious.
1 Luna4x0 2018-05-23
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-016-0798-z
Several journals and newspapers covered the findings as well. You can Google some of them for different takes on the findings. It's very interesting.
1 suicidal-pothead 2018-05-23
Thanks, it sounds like it will be pretty interesting. Appreciate it.
1 eyewant 2018-05-23
Its like that where I live. Christian people, lots of them, so oral sex in teens, penetrative sex in college. I know some girls that are still virgins actually.
1 CountyMcCounterson 2018-05-23
Hmm
1 Luna4x0 2018-05-23
Actually, that's part of their reasoning. lol Ridiculous, I know. The people surveyed for the data also viewed oral sex as less personal than traditional penetration. Concerns over unplanned pregnancies also played a role in the results, even when taking into account the availability of condoms.
1 AyeThatsAGoodNagger 2018-05-23
ugh yeah I hate that, but many womem try to say shit like that. Whether they actually believe their own bullshit, I don’t know.
1 DiatribeDogma 2018-05-23
Is 50 supposed to be a lot?
1 Madeon929 2018-05-23
Are you joking?
That’s like the average now
1 AutismoCircus 2018-05-23
For a woman
1 liquidpapr 2018-05-23
Maybe? This woman is bragging about 50 in less than one year.
https://twitter.com/milkymorena/status/998523564704739329
1 sailorgangordie 2018-05-23
At least she fucked ricels and not whites.
1 BeeNeedsANewLife 2018-05-23
ok i’m 18 and i’ve never
tf??
1 Madeon929 2018-05-23
Wanna chat on snap?😉
1 BeeNeedsANewLife 2018-05-23
i honestly hope u aren’t being sincere
1 Madeon929 2018-05-23
😉
1 help_throwaway96 2018-05-23
you have a bad personality
1 Madeon929 2018-05-23
I know, boyo
1 AutismoCircus 2018-05-23
We all have one.
1 qwerty8008135 2018-05-23
We all do
1 AlixaOathkeeper 2018-05-23
This i totally agree. This subreddit calls me a roastie just because ive been with more than one man.
My count is three (including my partner right now) and no they dont interlap coz im not a sex crazed animal...also being busy with high school and college does a good job distracting you from your need to do stuff like that.
Life isnt only about sex people please
1 thatzombieoverthere 2018-05-23
You are a roastie.
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-23
3 partners is nowadays virgin, as they went extinct
1 Gorge_Zummerman 2018-05-23
Look at this roastie gettng toastie
1 Rhodri_Kraakman 2018-05-23
I’m going to give you some grammar lessons so we don’t have to translate everything you say into English. I’ll excuse abbreviated phrases like “tf” though.
tf?? There should only be one “?” here.
just capitalise “just” bc some girls like to have multiple partners doesn’t mean all of them do?? There should only be one “?” here. like Several Capitalize “like” and de-capitalize “Several” dudes beat up their gfs You need an apostrophe before the “s” when pluralizing abbreviations. there’s are There is are? Remove the “‘s” in “there’s” several hotlines and centres for it but i don’t think all men are abusing pigs so like no Finish your sentence with a period. Remove the “like” in your sentence while you’re at it; you’re a person typing on the internet, not a valley girl talking in real life.
Also i don’t think it’s possible to have 50 partners without dying of something lol Finish your sentence with a period.
1 AspieCel47 2018-05-23
All girls want multiple partners - they just aren't Chad enough to do it. 50 guys won't kill ya, the whore in you, will do that.
1 Socialismalwaysfails 2018-05-23
NO, but the difference is that these women asked to be hit.
1 PeskyCricket 2018-05-23
It's called using a condom, maybe some have enough morals to actually get tested before fucking. idk.
1 iEatsFood 2018-05-23
In the ghetto, maybe. I knew maybe one or two girls in my entire highschool who started off that early. But then again I'm just a woman taking a stroll in this infamous sub, I know you guys would find whatever way not to believe me.
1 Madeon929 2018-05-23
Women don’t count bjs right? Teehee.
1 iEatsFood 2018-05-23
Not sure about other people, but I would. Any penetrative intercourse, in my opinion, is intercourse. If it wasn't then gay people would technically be virgins, lol.
1 fukworld_2 2018-05-23
Why do you assume I am huge slut I am 19 and I only fucked 50 guys. Femoids are all disgusting.
1 KhalilYousuf3 2018-05-23
I have a 750,000 mileage car I want to sell IT cucks
1 JarlPaul 2018-05-23
Yikes, bro, she is sips soy a strong AND independent, her body, HER plays on the nu-switch CHOICE. HOW DARE YOU imply she's a whore, - there's a reason you're virgin incel afterall. Maybe take a shower for once.
1 help_throwaway96 2018-05-23
not on l has she fucled 50 guys but since she obly fucks one at a time she probably started at 12
1 redredwinesofine 2018-05-23
Sounds like you think she's "disgusting" because you're jealous of her.
1 Moist___ 2018-05-23
I also think cucks and fucking corpses are disgusting. Does that make me jealous of them?
1 -randee- 2018-05-23
Yes.
1 Kar98kSnipe 2018-05-23
Absolutely disgusting. Some cuck from IT will marry her too I bet lmao
1 Leilane_Sousa 2018-05-23
at least he is going to marry aomeone and have sex unlike who will die alone and bitter
1 Monkey_Jerk 2018-05-23
r/deadbedrooms
1 Leilane_Sousa 2018-05-23
and all of them have more sex than you ever had. Now go play your videogames
1 Kar98kSnipe 2018-05-23
Out roast beef cunt
1 AmIwrong92 2018-05-23
Triggered the roast beef flaps.
1 Monkey_Jerk 2018-05-23
nah
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
He's not going to have sex lol. He might not even raise his own kids. I know it's fantasy of yours to fuck around the world and find some beta loser to marry and use for his money, but don't push it as if it's a good thing lol
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
Christ. I never got that high in my 21 years of having sex...
And you guys call me a slut? LOL
1 Wasirthepussy 2018-05-23
Maybe if you stop posting on here and complaining how you don’t have that much cock maybe you would get more cock.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
But what would I do with it? I certainly couldn't do anything sexual.
Maybe I could use it as a coat hook or something.
1 Wasirthepussy 2018-05-23
You could use it to crush your nuts
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
I can't eat nuts any more. My digestive system gets a little annoyed if I do.
1 Wasirthepussy 2018-05-23
Seriously tho are you married? Imagine having a wife who’s fucked over 20+ people 🤢
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
Been married twice, but now single.
And what about having a husband who's no virgin? Same amount of disgust?
1 Chadbutblackpilled 2018-05-23
No cause i know for sure your roast is so disgusting pale gingerwhale
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
You have absolutely no idea what it's like.
And you dodged the question there. Surely a guy who has been a slut is just as disgusting?
1 ButtsMacGillacuty 2018-05-23
No because I'm not trying to sleep with a guy. If women cared about that there'd be less Chads, then then women would have to forgo sleeping with said Chads and we all know THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
Chads would still be Chads whether they were sleeping with a different girl every night or not.
1 Tarkakabhai 2018-05-23
Men and women are different.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
Not these days they're not. Equality and all that.
1 Tarkakabhai 2018-05-23
Biologically yes.
1 Wasirthepussy 2018-05-23
Nope, no matter how many chicks he fucks there’s no disgust, you lot are the gatekeepers, it’s your choice to let people in to your house.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
So you don't see it as disgusting for a guy to have fucked 50 women?
1 Wasirthepussy 2018-05-23
Nope, ever had custard/jam doughnuts from cooperative, they use the same nozzle for every doughnut to fill it up. A male has to spread his genes, it’s biology.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
It's being a man-whore.
1 Wasirthepussy 2018-05-23
Nope it’s shagging a lot of girls is seen as an achievement, in the biological view you’re a successful male.
1 Tarkakabhai 2018-05-23
Depends on the quality of women he has been with. Can average guy have sex with 50 women. Guys have to put effort while girls have to choose.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
I'm sure Chad manages.
1 Tarkakabhai 2018-05-23
Every woman can be a stacy but not every man can be a chad.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
Wrong again.
1 Tarkakabhai 2018-05-23
Okay my bad not every healthy women.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
Staceys are the pretty girls. They are the female version of the Chad.
1 Tarkakabhai 2018-05-23
How that landwhale got 4 lovers then? Most women can become pretty with exercise and make up.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
Which landwhale?
1 Tarkakabhai 2018-05-23
This one. https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/6005511/polyamorous-therapist-44-husband-fiance-two-boyfriends/amp/
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
Oh dear. A fat woman has people who love her. How awful....
1 Tarkakabhai 2018-05-23
No, the thing is she can get love but 20% of healthy males can not.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
So what do you do to find relationships? How do you go about it?
1 Tarkakabhai 2018-05-23
Just be fat sis.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
I meant you. As in what do you do?
1 Tarkakabhai 2018-05-23
Haha, I live in a hypocritical shit. I am not incel.
1 Tarkakabhai 2018-05-23
Just a virgin in non western country.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
So you're not trying to date then?
1 Tarkakabhai 2018-05-23
Not at the moment. My anger is at my society.
1 Tarkakabhai 2018-05-23
Dating is a new concept in my country.
1 Tarkakabhai 2018-05-23
If a woman is slim she becomes above average.
1 Tarkakabhai 2018-05-23
https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/8lqnlg/arent_woke_youtubers_such_lifefuel/
1 ButtsMacGillacuty 2018-05-23
NO BECAUSE WE ARE NOT TRYING TO SLEEP WITH MEN. Most of aren't anyway. Sorry dumb liberal, we don't have to concern ourselves with things that don't effect us.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
So different standards? Or just disinterest?
1 ButtsMacGillacuty 2018-05-23
Disinterest. And I've been friends with a womanizer and had to stop in large part because of his womanizing. I think it's wrong what he did but it's pretty obvious that all those women were trying to equally use him to both their social status because he had money and good looks.
1 SeacatsAndCicadas 2018-05-23
Because you are. I hope you get hit by a bus.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
You first. I want to make sure I know how to do it right.
1 ShadyAce25 2018-05-23
How many guys have you been with? Btw the average is 5-7 partners in a lifetime I believe so the girl in the OP is definitely waaaaay above average in terms of partners.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
Nobody knows that number but me, and that's how it will be staying.
1 ShadyAce25 2018-05-23
I guess when you said “And you guys call me a slut.” I assumed that everybody knew your number and still called you a slut. Otherwise, how would they even know?
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
They call all women sluts. Plus they know I've been married twice and converted four virgins
1 ShadyAce25 2018-05-23
Are virgins sluts too or are they like secret sluts or sluts in the making?
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
Virgins are virgins. It's what they do afterwards that counts.
1 lonewolf-20000 2018-05-23
what is your overall count?
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
Not relevant.
1 lonewolf-20000 2018-05-23
lol. why are you afriad to tell? am just curious. more than 5? more that 10?
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
I'm not afraid. I just don't tell. It's not like it's relevant any more anyway
1 lonewolf-20000 2018-05-23
why don't you tell? i won't judge you. i promise.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
Because I don't feel like it. No one else knows but me, and that's the way it's staying.
1 lonewolf-20000 2018-05-23
yeah, ok. sorry for asking.
1 mikepencetheincel 2018-05-23
“The past is the past honey 🍩🍩🍩🍩
1 sleepingforever1 2018-05-23
How is that even possible?
1 iamhopeless256 2018-05-23
Tinder
1 moggedbyall 2018-05-23
not just possible, its the norm
1 KekeBl 2018-05-23
Wow she is such a prude :O
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
Lol it's been over. Jfl @ when she said she's boring
Why the fuck isn't there a standard on women to be interesting
Btw, everyone should know this, we only got honesty from her because OP is chadfishing. I'd imagine she'd lie about her count to the beta buxx
1 showercel 2018-05-23
I know women who actually LDAR, that is lay down all day and play with their phone. This is seriously all they do, they don't have a single hobby.
And yet, they are all consistently in a relationship with 7+/10s.
The notion that we just have to improve our personality or find hobbies is ridiculous. It's a cope by society to cover up how fucked up it is.
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
Big fucking facts
1 zZacharyChad 2018-05-23
Fact overload.
1 chillenyo2 2018-05-23
Haha
1 azucel 2018-05-23
truthpill
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
Normies, answer this.
1 tsdobbi 2018-05-23
Okay. Contrary to popular belief, people are individuals and your anecdotal evidence isn't proof of anything. I mean I don't even believe the poster if all they do is lay down all day and play with their phone, how do you even know these women?
1 azucel 2018-05-23
wrong
1 tsdobbi 2018-05-23
I know a few woman that smoke....therefore all women smoke. Does that sound logical to you?
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
all women did used to smoke tho all of society lying to them (giving them a blue pill) and saying it didn't cause cancer. I don't blame women (and men) who smnoked back then after being lied to. but nowadays we give you a black pill so you should stop believing blue pilled nonsense. just like you shouldn't smoke because people have known for years now it causes cancer.
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
Not an argument. "Everyone is unique" is simply false.
It's easier for women to find guys. Far easier. A guy has to go out and be funny, be confident, be masculine, be ripped be this and that. The well-dominated.disparity in matches and attractiveness
1 tsdobbi 2018-05-23
I never argued women don't have an easier time than men. I do challenge the assertion these women all have the personality of a cereal box and literally do absolutely nothing but lay around on their phone all day. If that is "all they do" how does op even know these women? Shit, I have no idea what most people I know do with 75% of their daily lives. Yet OP knows the hourly habits of multiple women?
1 realmonkeycel 2018-05-23
have you met the average college girl lol
1 youjustabattlerapper 2018-05-23
The most important behavioral/personality trait for women is agreeableness.
That's it.
Step back and think really hard, and you'll realize that many of the girls you think are cool are really just extremely agreeable and willing to talk to you. Not remarkable in any other sense. Granted, most men aren't remarkable in any sense either personality wise.
1 Quixificent 2018-05-23
OkCûpid and Tinder are not representative of most women in most situations. Humans have evolved to seek certain traits in partners depending on whether they want a short-term relationship or an LTR. For LTRs, women actually don't seek just looks -- they prioritize things like resources, the potential to gain more resources, social capital and certain personality traits. Yeah, I know, but it's true. For men, it's the opposite: for LTRs, they report that looks are the most important, although other factors matter as well -- just not as much. In the context of hookups or flings, women's standards become much closer to men's standards: they both prioritize looks.
(I don't know where the accent over the "u" in OkCupid came from, but I'll just leave it there. Why not?)
A lot of incels say that they don't prioritize looks, so they probably qualify as a subgroup that greatly differs from the averages found in these studies.
Tinder, in particular, creates a "hookup mindset." So, a lot of people here are looking at the Tinder experiments and thinking it's over. They don't realize that evolutionary psychologists have discovered that humans prioritize certain traits differently depending on whether they're looking for a romantic LTR or just a hookup. A lot of people here are hyperfocusing on environments where there's a hookup culture -- Tinder, bars, clubs, etc. They're hyperfocusing on these to the exclusion of environments where they'd actually have a chance.
The Tinder experiments are also very questionable. How do we know the authors didn't swap out the text in the bio? Why are only women's initial "hellos" shown? I actually detailed in another comment how to set up a very good Tinder experiment. I don't even have a smartphone, so maybe someone else will do it. There need to be 4 conditions, not just 2 (that is, Chad with evil bio, Chad with nice bio, incel with Dark Chad's bio, and incel with Good Chad's bio). The Evil Bio could mention child molestation. However, the bio text needs to not be so over the top that it looks like a joke or irony ("I'll ruin your life!" would be seen by most women as a joke, and the previous child molester Tinder experiment didn't make sense because the guy shouldn't have been out of prison yet). When women message Dark Chad, Dark Chad should immediately explain that he molested a young child and doesn't regret it, and that he's being serious and needs to inform her in case she's around kids. Then screencap your explanation and their reactions. Screencap messages for the other 3 conditions, too.
Boom: A blackpill not so easily dismissed, if it even turns out to be a blackpill.
So, why do I say that an incel would ever actually have a chance? Because a lot of incels look average or only just slightly below average. (Some are extremely unattractive or have deformities or birth defects, and I'm not denying that, but I am denying that most of you are in such an extreme situation.) If they keep trying Tinder and clubs, it's just not going to work, because women will be thinking about who's the most physically attractive instead of thinking about other factors, and they've got a million men to choose from. Yet average men have sex all the time. If you don't ever see average couples, it's probably because A) You don't go out much; B) You aren't noticing the average couples because the Chads and Stacys stand out so much more when you're in that hopeless mindset, and the sight of normal couples is not fully processed by the brain; or C) You're in high school and most of the couples involve Chad or Stacy or both, and that's because attractive people also tend to be socially precocious, so they start dating earlier.
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
Deleted my comment. Hold on.
1 Quixificent 2018-05-23
Those could be done, too, just as long as Dark Chad makes it clear that he isn't messing around. Lines like that could easily be interpreted as just shock value joking, which other people have criticized previous Tinder experiments for. A woman might not know that he's NOT just messing with her until deep into the conversation, which makes them a bit inconvenient.
I used child molestation as an example because another incel did a Tinder experiment with a child molester, and because just about nobody will jokingly announce that, and insist that, they molested a kid. It's also convenient because some places require you to inform other people of the molestation conviction if there's any chance that they have kids around. So Dark Chad could make an official statement at or very near the beginning of the conversation.
Your attempt at psychoanalysis is waayyy off, my dude. Other incels made Dark Chad profiles with molestation. They didn't just suggest them as examples, they went and made them. Its shock value is exactly what made it stand out to so many incels, and that's why those incels chose it. That's why I used it as an example. Are you going to go psychoanalyze the incels who made the original child molester profiles, too? Because I'm willing to bet that when they do it, you don't see anything wrong with it because they're just using the intensity of it to show how degenerate women are. If I do it for same reason -- its intensity -- you don't approve. Why the double standard?
And why the hostility toward conducting a well-designed experiment, instead of one that most non-incels don't believe because it's so badly designed and they see so many holes in it?
I keep hearing Jeremy Meeks' name over here. Who the hell is he? Some buff actor or something? I don't keep up with shit like that. Imma Google him now. (I haven't seen many movies or shows and I'm very out of the loop when it comes to pop culture.)
I'm using actual research. As in, published scholarly articles in scholarly journals, because I'm a PhD student in evolutionary psychology and I have some damn standards. I'm not going to believe Reddit randos who don't understand the first thing about genetics and evolutionary biology over actual, well-conducted, thorough scholarly research. Memes are not research. One of the things that disappoints me about this community is that some people pretend to understand genetics and evolutionary biology when it's very obvious that they don't. If someone made an intelligent proposal, I'd definitely want to follow up on it and investigate it, though.
With that said... women in the West tend to look for short term relationships while they're young adults, so if you look in places that encourage hookup culture, you're fighting the fact that most of them will prioritize appearance and social dominance. It's also true that women tend to stop doing this later in life. It's also true that, on average, married couples (LTRs) have less sex as more time passes. (That's not a surprise on the evo psych side, as humans are probably more like serial monogamists, although that of course doesn't preclude some cultures from being polygamist or strictly monogamous). Also, hookup culture has become even more of a thing in the West, particularly with Tinder and the like. We don't know how it will turn out. But that doesn't make your meme science. We need actual research.
They do not. I've seen plenty of average and even bad-looking, awkward as hell guys get laid and get girlfriends. Like, during my four year college days, I could literally hear the metronomic squeaking of bedsprings as bad-looking and awkward guys pounded girls. Not sorority girls, but still girls.
It will feel impossible if you're putting yourself in an unrealistic situation (trying to hit on a woman in a club when she's surrounded by a thousand Chads because that's what clubs are for, basically). I know this is tired advice, but it really does work for a lot of people. Go to an interest club. (This is how the majority of the awkward/unattractive guys I know found girlfriends.) Join a charity. Join a sports group. Get an adorable dog and take it walking where the ladies are. This has a very good chance of working out for you if you're average or a bit below average and can hold an interesting conversation. I won't claim that it will work if you're extremely unattractive or have a prominent birth defect or something of the like. That's a very sad reality, but I don't know how to fight it.
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
How is it any more well-designed? It's far less realistic. And in any case, even joking about anything close to this shit (beating up women, etc.) is going to get you disqualified if you have average looks.
Jeremy Meeks is known as the living embodiment of the blackpill. You've looked him up, you know what he's about. Trust me, they knew well he wasn't joking or just being "over the top."
The betabux meme agrees with you, that women focus more on the guy as a provider. The meme is based of what you're claiming about women. The implication is that women settle for a guy because he can provide and has a stable income.
I brought up the central incel thesis, that women are much worse at discriminating on looks. You haven't really answered this. Consider why the male incel population dwarfs the female one. Consider why, when everyone is focused in look, women do so much better than men on Tinder at all. Or other sites, or in bars and clubs.
Most of my friends are girls, I've spent hundreds of hours talking to girls and making them laugh. I've asked girls out in college. I'm not ugly, but I'm quite feminine looking, and I've failed in every endeavour.
I'm not claiming "all women," or 100%. Nor am I claiming that women are degenerate sociopaths at heart. Men overlook certain bad qualities in hot girls too. BUT women have a tremendous towards dating across and UP whereas men are happy to, on average, date across and DOWN.
1 Quixificent 2018-05-23
How is it less realistic?
That's an assertion that needs to be tested. The atomic memes usually only show responses to Chad. Showing responses to the average or incel profile would make it a lot more powerful, because it would show the contrast. Most non-incels are smart enough to know that showing only Chad's results without comparing them to the average person or incel's results doesn't demonstrate anything except that women do in fact reply to those Chad bios. It doesn't say anything about the state of incels, which would be useful information. Thus the 4 conditions. How does a nice incel or normie do, compared to a Dark Chad?
But mostly, I'm hoping someone will set up an experiment where they make sure that the replying women know that Dark Chad is actually being serious and not employing shock value flirting, which is definitely a thing. Then capture their responses when it dawns on them that Dark Chad is not joking. None of the previous experiments I'm aware of did this. They mostly just capped "Hellos" and the like, which just leaves too many holes to poke into it.
The research agrees with this claim.
Again, Tinder, bars, and clubs are environments that bring out womens' preferences and standards in relation to hookups. So, per the research, it's not surprising that women would focus more on looks in such settings. That's at least a good part of why they discriminate based on looks so hard. It's the setting you're in.
Why are there so many incels now? Well, the modern environment is quite different from the one we evolved in. Men and women are 50/50, there aren't lots of men dying in wars or hunts. And men who would have otherwise died in childhood (for a variety of reasons, usually some sort of weakness, such as easy susceptibility to diseases) go on to become adults. And the majority of incels are young men in high school or their twenties. Therefore, they're still trapped in the hookup culture. Because, well, now we have an extended young adulthood to go along with an extended childhood, and hooking up is now considered okay by a lot of people.
Research suggests that women seeking LTRs place great emphasis on a mate's resources or potential to gain those resources, and because of the halo effect and a few other things, unattractive men are also more likely to work undesirable jobs and be poor, and people expect them to be poor losers, so they avoid them. There aren't arranged marriages. Fewer people are marrying anyway, and they're marrying at later ages (so the carefree hookup years extend throughout the twenties). So incels aren't considered viable for marrying, either. That is, if they're actually deformed or mentally disabled. Most incels think they're ugly as shit when they're pretty normal, maybe a bit below average. Many incels have a very strong negative bias towards themselves.
As for hooking up, the advent of apps like Tinder allows women to congregate around men who seem socially dominant (which is, on average, important to women in hookup settings). As I said, the literature supports this.
The problem is that many incels here are young adults, and because women marry later, there are more years for clubbing and hooking up. So you're stuck in a short-term relationship, hookup-oriented environment where women will usually seek the most dominant and attractive man they can find. You're stuck in it for years and years.
So, it can be hard to imagine that when women get into a more LTR mindset, they don't still have the same standards at heart. LTR standards are more about resources and personality, which can translate to the "beta buxx" meme. However, the meme carries the connotation that the woman secretly thinks you're pathetic and doesn't love you, just your money, and she only entered an LTR with you because she was afraid of "hitting the wall," and she will do anything she can to secretly fuck Chad behind your back. That's some weird projection shit that doesn't have anything to do with the actual research findings.
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
Yeah deleted my comment again. Just give me a sec.
1 Quixificent 2018-05-23
Maybe there could be a child molester version (to match the previous experiment) and another with something like spousal abuse. It would be interesting to compare the two versions, actually. What if the spousal abuser and the pedophile get the same number of responses?
I definitely don't think that people are incel because of what they post on the net. But yeah, that explains why it's pushed so hard over here. It's a pushback against IT.
You asked. I answered. You already knew what the answer would be, I'm guessing. I don't want to dump suifuel on you, but you literally asked me to explain it.
I'm not saying you should be dead. This is an is vs. ought thing. Sickly and frail babies and children died back then. They just did. We didn't have the medical technology to save them. That doesn't mean that you morally should be dead, or that they morally should have died. It just happened because we didn't have the means to save them.
I don't know anything about you, but you may not have been sickly and frail as a child at all. If that's the case, this wouldn't even apply to you. Sickly and frail kids died, not average-looking and average-strength kids.
"Settling" doesn't mean that a woman secretly doesn't love you. I see this mistake all the time. Let's assume that women have evolved to "settle" if exposed to certain environmental or internal physiological cues. This doesn't mean the emotion is fake. Crying is an evolved signal, but sadness is not fake. Anger is an evolved response and signal, but anger is not fake. And etc. Honestly, it's rather silly to think that if a behavior has evolved, there can't be genuine emotion attached to it. I mean, damn... fear is probably the strongest example. We've evolved to engage in fight or flight behavior when threatened. So we engage in the behavior. Does it mean we aren't feeling scared? Of course not.
You asked, I answered. I'm sorry. I'll PM you later.
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
The reason I reacted so strongly is because, ostensibly, I saw you as someone trying to disprove the blackpill, and was answering you from that standpoint. So when you confirm like two-thirds of the blackpill
1 Quixificent 2018-05-23
Basically:
Hookup culture is a thing now, and it lasts throughout people's twenties. Hookup culture and hookup settings bring out women's preferences in regard to short-term relationships (social dominance and attractiveness are prioritized). Most incels are very young, in high school or in their twenties. So they're stuck for years in this culture where women congregate around the most attractive, dominant men they can find. That's why there are so many incels.
Also: No arranged marriages at fairly early ages (so hooking up is still going on throughout people's twenties). Fewer marriages in general. No men dying in wars or hunts. No men dying of disease or frailty in childhood -- they live on.
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
In other words, a slightly toned down blackpill, but still weapons-grade suicide fuel. Good to know.
1 Quixificent 2018-05-23
Googled Jeremy Meeks. Meh. I'm sticking with my original childhood crush on Jeff Goldblum, Jurassic Park style.
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
C h a o s
We can't all run Jewish intellectual stutter game.
1 Quixificent 2018-05-23
That's the game that works best on me :(
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
Cope, none of us can master his sense of timing.
1 pkfighter343 2018-05-23
Online dating is proof of nothing. Women can select as they want in online dating - another person is literally a movement of your thumb away. It's not that easy irl, and meeting new, like minded people is harder than that, so women will chase people they like rather than only the ones they're blown away by.
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
It's not AS easy, but it still applies because the fundamental ground rules don't change.
1 pkfighter343 2018-05-23
Extremely mildly applies. I'm mildly successful on tinder and extremely successful in real life.
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
And I'm unsuccessful on both. Women will still go after dominant, attractive men.
1 pkfighter343 2018-05-23
I hope you did see it. I used to be like you, years ago. All I’m saying is that your personality may be part of the factor making them not want you, and that’s something you can easily improve. It seems widely accepted here that if you don’t have an attractive face, it’s hopeless. It’s just not true.
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
You have this belief that people can sense our venting and memes online.
Most of my friends are girls. I've no issue making them laugh. Many people with overtly sexist or misogynistic views don't have an issue getting laid.
If they aren't attracted to you in the first place, it's an uphill battle.
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
Zucchini levels of low IQ
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
Also: I can't take anyone seriously if you refer to people as "individuals" in the 21st century
There are no such thing as individuals or individuality, only subjects and subjectivity
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
one of the reasons the rich push rugged individualism with their capitalism is the ydon't want workers of the world to unite. we're much more easier to control if we don't organize.
1 showercel 2018-05-23
"Anecdotal evidence for me but not for thee"
1 bigman4004 2018-05-23
Do you know what data is? It's a collection of micro-anecdotes. What's the difference between saying "I know ten women who have notch counts above 100" and "I conducted a study asking 500 women what their notch counts were and ten of them responded above 100"? Data IS anecdotes.
1 realmonkeycel 2018-05-23
That's not entirely true, as a girl, my hobbies also include Netflix, travel, and eating pizza. And by travel I mean looking at pictures of Paris on Insta, I've never actually traveled anywhere by myself.
1 RegisteredLolicon 2018-05-23
This is 80% of foids
1 realmonkeycel 2018-05-23
Lol the thing is rewatching Friends or The Office for the 12th time, dicking around on snapchat or IG all day, and going out every night is perfectly acceptable, even encouraged for young women. Meanwhile I gotta juggle three hobbies, exercise daily, and focus on my career for the chance to betabux lmao. Fuck that
1 showercel 2018-05-23
This is what I'm talking about.
They'll rewatch sitcoms on netflix for the umpteenth time, and lay down on the couch using those two exact apps - and their lives are simple and filled with happiness.
1 Katiemarie993 2018-05-23
You are delusional if you think their lives are filled with happiness. No one who seeks the amount of attention you are suggesting these women have is actually confident and needs validation. She’s not happy.
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
cope she's very happy, ignorance is bliss after all
1 guerillahubris00 2018-05-23
KEK what a cope
1 CursedCel 2018-05-23
Uber cope - I'm unhappy, having to juggle the amount of shit I do to make myself interesting without having a nervous breakdown from piling that shit on top of 18 hours in Uni. A foid having life served to her on a silver platter by all her orbiters and doing nothing but whoring out on social media is possibly the happiest organism on earth, since her needs are covered and she spends the time on idle leisure instead of physically or mentally exhaustive activities.
1 unfurledwarrior5150 2018-05-23
What’s wrong with this when me and my girl aren’t together I’d rather her be doing that than cheating.
1 KV_2018 2018-05-23
brutal blackpill, I'd never thought of it like that... high IQ comment
1 BF8211 2018-05-23
Lmao
1 randomination 2018-05-23
It's because normies have already unconsciously accepted that it's easier for women. When they tell you to go to the personality gym they aren't saying that it will make it as easy for you as a woman (literally nothing will) they think that it will make it as easy for you as a chad - they've swallowed the blue pill so hard they legitimately believe personality is everything and that is all that separates one from getting a gf.
1 KetamineBananazs_27 2018-05-23
Wanna point me to your source for this broad "they" you're talking about?
5'9 150 lbs not very traditionally masculine guy who has struggled with lots of anxiety and OCD traits I've worked on through adolescence and adulthood here. Been sexually intimate with 50+ women (not that that's a good metric of any sort of success with intimacy anyway for anyone who doesn't call themselves a pick up artist) when 10 years ago I thought I was, like you guys, entirely undesirable by the vast majority of women in the world.
You ever have a floating thought that your self defeating narratives only serve to help you cope with your fears around intimacy or is that just another thing a normie who doesn't understand isolation and anxiety and delving into the internet for 8+ hours a day throughout adolescence to cope with the pain?
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1 showercel 2018-05-23
Cope
1 KetamineBananazs_27 2018-05-23
thank you for agreeing with me, you guys are all using these self defeating, bitter narratives to justify your fear of being intimate with and loving others. Wishing you well in taking the next step.
1 CursedCel 2018-05-23
It's not even fear, I wish I could have a gf but every time I try to take the next step I'm viciously shot down and publicly humiliated for trying with even the least attractive women in my immediate surroundings. You don't get to a 37 IRL rejection count by being afraid of being intimate, you dimwit.
1 KetamineBananazs_27 2018-05-23
You kind of are proving my point my guy. My rejection count is somewhere far, far north of 300. 1000 doesn't sound quite right but depending on your metrics, that might not be far off. Keep going out there and getting rejected and being in integrity of yourself and leave women who aren't into you the fuck alone, and eventually you're gonna find someone who you connect with.
1 randomination 2018-05-23
I'm not even an incel, I'm just not a blue pill faggot like you.
1 KetamineBananazs_27 2018-05-23
lol what is a "blue pill faggot?"
You didn't answer my original question.
1 DankIncel 2018-05-23
kek. I might use this in the future.
1 showercel 2018-05-23
Just fuck my society up fam
1 Ruby-xy 2018-05-23
I am boring and not a slutty, only sleep with one at the time thehe... Around 50
1 BananaPancakeCove 2018-05-23
This is just the majority of millennial voids. I have asked 2 19 yo voids their notch count and it was 20.
1 craftsntowers 2018-05-23
You asked 2 people out of millions and assume that is an accurate stat to claim "majority". Sounds legit.
1 tsdobbi 2018-05-23
This is the thing I find ironic about them, they keep throwing out the words "fact" and "truth" then treat anecdotal evidence like its a 40 year long peer reviewed study.
1 craftsntowers 2018-05-23
These types of actions are common place in anyone who isn't interested in the truth of reality. They find whatever trivial evidence perpetuates the narrative they want to exist in and ignore everything else. It's a sad state of affairs.
1 Idk12344482305 2018-05-23
Have you finished sucking each other
1 tsdobbi 2018-05-23
Not yet, it takes awhile because we've both been laid way too many times.
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
great personality
1 r4risbullshit 2018-05-23
Funny, I say the same thing about you people. Except there's much more snark coming from you IncelTears users.
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
agreed. it's on average way more than 20
1 LtTom 2018-05-23
not like you'll ever find out
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
already known for sure
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-23
Cuz they lie
1 batsalad 2018-05-23
u guys are annoying. i am 19. my count isn’t even in double digits.
1 dullsite 2018-05-23
If it's more than zero, you're a whore.
1 batsalad 2018-05-23
it’s 5. because i’ve had 5 serious relationships. how am i a whore?
1 dullsite 2018-05-23
Because if you have sex outside of marriage, you are a whore.
1 batsalad 2018-05-23
serious relationships as in lasting more than a year. you plan to wait until marriage to have sex?
1 dullsite 2018-05-23
I would if women preferred men that didn't have sexual experience.
1 batsalad 2018-05-23
but we don’t care.
1 dullsite 2018-05-23
Nah, even virgin girls like guys with low partner counts over virgin men. If we lived in a better world I'd wait til marriage, but I don't have that luxury.
1 batsalad 2018-05-23
sooo once you have sex outside of marriage that’s not gonna make you a whore?
1 dullsite 2018-05-23
It would if women wanted virgin men, but they don't.
You can't hold different sexes to the same sexual standards. It's like thinking guys like rich 6'3" muscular girls because girls like rich 6'3" muscular guys.
1 batsalad 2018-05-23
but it’s only you guys and radical religious people that care. being a virgin is not shameful. your perspective of men and women’s sexuality is, for lack of a better term, rooted in bullshit. sorry to be crass
1 dullsite 2018-05-23
Ask the mods how many people they've banned for making fun of virgins here.
My perspective is rooted in data.
1 batsalad 2018-05-23
was just trying to make u guys feel a little better but fuck me
1 REEEeeeeeeeeeecel 2018-05-23
nty you're fucking disgusting
1 batsalad 2018-05-23
ur mean
1 jacketboundjester 2018-05-23
You've done nothing but justify it.
1 batsalad 2018-05-23
wtf? i was literally just trying to tell u guys that i’m 19 and i have not slept with a ton of people. i was trying to be genuine and tell u that i don’t think it’s shameful to be a virgin. you’re so up yourself and u victimize urself so much that u can’t even see that i’m not even trying to offend.
1 jacketboundjester 2018-05-23
Honestly it's just fun watching the wheels reverse before the wagon tips over. You can act like you believe a word you say but you know it isn't true.
1 batsalad 2018-05-23
every single one of you is ridiculous. we all know you just wanna be fucked and treated like an actual person and if you were you wouldn’t be so cynical. talk alllll the shit you want but at the end of the day at least i get physical contact with other human beings. something you guys will never feel because of how DELUSIONAL you are. ur all mentalcels at this point.
1 jacketboundjester 2018-05-23
And thus are true colours are revealed! Capote red and bullshit brown!
1 REEEeeeeeeeeeecel 2018-05-23
you're trolling, used as a cum dumpster by 5 different dudes at 19 like what the fuck
1 batsalad 2018-05-23
and when i was a virgin i literally didn’t care, i just wanted to lose my virginity to someone i loved and he was also a virgin.
1 dullsite 2018-05-23
You're not exactly my target demographic, in case you forgot.
1 Idk12344482305 2018-05-23
when did that happen exactly if I'm not too intrusive?
1 destiny-draw 2018-05-23
If my math is correct. She says she is 19. She says she has had 5 partners who were all a year long relationship. So based on that...14.
1 Idk12344482305 2018-05-23
14 at most, all of those relationships were at least one year long...
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
just lol at asking an incel if he will wait till marriage for sex
like we have a choice
1 ilikeyourhair 2018-05-23
waiting till marriage is a leftover idea from religion. Religion wants to control as much of the population as possible, so saying premarital sex is a sin is how they tried to control their followers.
Fun fact, marriage used to be considered a damnable pagan sin in Catholicism, but when religious leaders realized people need to have sex to make babies and indoctrine them into the religion they decided to make marriage a holy sacrament. This didnt happen till 1184.
Now that the world is more intertwined we continue to step away from the idea that sex is sinful. Of course many individuals still believe this to be true and thats their right.
Having a preference for a persons sexual count or virginity is, in my book, very shallow and shows a lack of reasoning. I believe a person life before me was their own, i dont care to know exact details of their sexual conduct, as long as they're not a cheater (past cheating shows a lack of morals imo and i wont date a cheater) and as long as their std/sti/baby free im happy.
I actually preffer knowing my partner has had previous expirences, it gives me peace of mind that they wont be "curioud about other people" 5 years down the road, and its far far better imo to know that they really love you fully, not just becuase they dont know anything else.
to me, requiring a young virgin shows a lot of self doubt.
1 AbuIncelAlAustrali 2018-05-23
you had sex at 14, confirmed degenerate whore
1 batsalad 2018-05-23
yes, with a 14 year old virgin. is he a degenerate whore?
1 thumpar72 2018-05-23
the fact that two 14 year olds have fornicated makes me want to drill a hollow through my brain stem with a glock.
i fucking hate this world
1 Idk12344482305 2018-05-23
5 serious relationships at 19. Women truly live in another realm.
1 batsalad 2018-05-23
all i was trying to say was you say ALL women are whores no matter what. i’ve been in 5 committed relationships so i had sex with them. i’ve never had sex with someone i wasn’t committed to. i’ve never had friends with benefits. i’ve never slept around. i’m definitely not a whore no matter what you wanna call me
1 Idk12344482305 2018-05-23
I’m don’t want to call you anything darling, I’m just always amazed that for women getting a boyfriend is like ordering pizza. Hell, even easier, they have to pay for pizza after all.
1 No_longer_content 2018-05-23
lol zing
1 RegisteredLolicon 2018-05-23
Jesus fuck you're so dense. If we all don't make sure to say a percentile below 100 you all ree like a bunch of fucking mongoloids.
1 NoNefariousness6 2018-05-23
Call me a mean ugly incel, but 5 commited relationships under 19...doesn't sound like there was a lot of commitment there heh
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
so committed she cheated on 4 different chads
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
Lmfaoo yooo I'm dying. This thread kills me
1 f9d8hv3sl 2018-05-23
Really makes you think.
1 TruthInBlack 2018-05-23
If you've had 5 relationships by the time you're 19 then there was nothing serious about that. You dumbass whore femoids are so fucking low IQ it's baffling.
1 batsalad 2018-05-23
like i said, “serious” as in lasting longer than a year.
1 Loser_irl 2018-05-23
like why are y'all these incels so mean?? you're not a whore its totes normal for people to have 5 serious relationship by age 19 and 500 by age 40. geez these guys are totes in the stone age LOL you go queen!!
Oh I forgot to include the big /S since femaloids are too dense.
Putrid WHORE.
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1 Skillful_Hedonist 2018-05-23
Christ, it's such a relief that you will never breed.
1 Kwantuum 2018-05-23
You're getting pretty seriously bashed here, to be fair, 5 relationships of over a year at 19 means you've pretty much been in a relationship constantly since the age of 14. I absolutely disagree with the idea that you're a whore, but you should understand that most people here are men who haven't gotten so much as a kiss and they're in their mid twenties or older, can you imagine the loneliness and the torture of knowing you're completely undesirable? And girls your age with five times your n-count are not a rarity, if you have any amount of female friends you know this to be true.
1 batsalad 2018-05-23
i wasn’t trying to invalidate their feelings i was just trying to say not everyone is a hoe. but to them, we are and i’m okay with that lol.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-23
5 at 19 is insanely high.
1 batsalad 2018-05-23
its definitely not “insanely high”. everyone around me has had many more partners. especially when i was in high school. besides i’m turning 20 in a couple months and don’t see my count getting higher anytime soon.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-23
it's over
1 thumpar72 2018-05-23
five at 19.
holy shit. you live in an alternative universe.
mind if i ask how long you have been just single at a time? pure honesty only if you answer.
1 showercel 2018-05-23
J U S T
1 Bahmanis 2018-05-23
fucking hell, just end it
1 KarmaGang 2018-05-23
The absolute state of modern women
1 DirtyBristolBoi 2018-05-23
In awe at the sluttiness of this lass.
1 YouAreWrongKid 2018-05-23
I been telling you guys on here that are hopeful for a young White virgin wife, by the time these girls turn 18 many have been with 15-25 guys, by 19 its 25-50 because they have hit their college years, they are probably out on their own and can have as much casual sex as they want.
1 Strasseritebil 2018-05-23
Even this fat ugly girl I slept with pissed has had 5 by 20. And she's repulsive
1 chiggerslayer200 2018-05-23
Yeah dude 400 pound whale I was with had a count of 5 at 22. You don’t know repulsive until you see the fat rolls hit each other after she took her shirt off.
1 iEatsFood 2018-05-23
Just a visitor to this sub - why are you guys obsessed with getting a white woman? Sure I get that you guys hate women in general and think all women are worthless, but why the additional racism?
1 Socialismalwaysfails 2018-05-23
Because beastiality is a crime and morally wrong
1 iEatsFood 2018-05-23
Wow. You're not only a misogynist but a Nazi also. And you wonder why no one wants you.
1 Socialismalwaysfails 2018-05-23
I hate to break it to you, but the majority of the world hates blacks. Even other blacks.
1 iEatsFood 2018-05-23
Sure, there's a lot of racism towards black people. But for the most part it's still quite extreme to say that another race of people are animals. And you know which famous person openly thought black people were animals? Adolf Hitler.
1 YouAreWrongKid 2018-05-23
Noones saying that they are animals moron. Were saying they have higher crime and std rates which is factually true, thus we dont want modern day white sluts that are coalburners and toxic feminists. Get it?
1 tuesdayrain 2018-05-23
No, people hate blacks who act like thug drug dealers, but the same can be said for any race. There's nothing with black people who act civilized.
1 tuesdayrain 2018-05-23
No, people hate blacks who act like thug drug dealers, but the same can be said for any race. There's nothing with black people who act civilized.
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-23
I'd date a black/indian/arab/asian/latina/white woman, but i can't attract anyone.
1 YouAreWrongKid 2018-05-23
Im not. Im actually encouraging guys on here to forget White women and date non White women. Ive explained that most White women are toxic feminists or used goods now adays, as most White women think its trendy and cool to have casual hookups with black drug dealers
1 ElderScrolls6Norwood 2018-05-23
Over for Australian Incels.
1 ButtsMacGillacuty 2018-05-23
How is that even possible at 19, even if you start at 14. Is she doing multiple dudes at once? And 50 was an estimate, so it's likely higher.
1 Tarkakabhai 2018-05-23
10 guys per year or 1 guy for 5 weeks bro approx.
1 RawrXDOwO 2018-05-23
9 guys in 5 orgies, 4 tinder Chads and 1 betabux
1 HumbleCel 2018-05-23
"I usually only sleep with one person at a time" = "I've only been double-teamed a few times"
1 BadgerTimeo 2018-05-23
28 and count is 0 unless you ask as many females as there are to you incels, your research is null and void.
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
Why do you think we're calling all women whores? Don't you know we're kinda hoping there are modest women out there for us, at least of us are
1 BadgerTimeo 2018-05-23
Thats all i have seen, i havent seen a post where anybody as yet to say a nice thing about any woman, in retrospect ive only been here 3 or 4 days but that's hours of reading material and alot of hatred toward us. I get it, i guess the majority of females have slept with a few men, i dont tend to ask or even socialise with them to be able to ask and i get it females are horrible and shallow and fucking cunts and youre sick of it but dayum its a whole other world over here, i know i dont belong here and im just a lurker getting an insight into this world...i aint even gonna apologise on behalf of women cos i aint apart of that world i dont wanna be.
1 CommonMisspellingBot 2018-05-23
Hey, BadgerTimeo, just a quick heads-up:
alot is actually spelled a lot. You can remember it by it is one lot, 'a lot'.
Have a nice day!
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1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
I've got a lot of nice things to say about nice women. This just isn't the place. We talk about shitty women here. The people who come here to attack us are shitty women who are mad at us for being mad at shitty women
Btw alot is spelled a lot
1 CommonMisspellingBot 2018-05-23
Hey, itsbeenover, just a quick heads-up:
alot is actually spelled a lot. You can remember it by it is one lot, 'a lot'.
Have a nice day!
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1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
Oh you fucker
1 BadgerTimeo 2018-05-23
Ah i guess you know that makes sense, this is a place where you can all come to talk about how shitty women treat you shitty. Im not here to attack anyone, it actually worried me, i see that a lot of you are nerds and geeks (not a bad thing im a massive nerd and geek) and have a bunch of the same interests has me and i hated to think that if i ever went to a magic the gathering or dungeons and dragons game you'd all hate me when I'm a paranoid anxiety ridden anti social wreck as it is, then again to even see me out of the house would be a miracle. Thank you for the epiphany, literally.
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
Lol hun, that's nerdy as fuck
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
Deleted account huh...not surprised. This is duplicitous behavior that I expect regularly from women lol
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
kek you got caught in a lie
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
Facts
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-23
Women are subhuman
1 tionsquest 2018-05-23
So 100+
1 dontcomplain1 2018-05-23
Partner count: ~ 50
ITS OVER
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
if you guys could sleep with 50 people you were interested in, you would. why wouldn't you, if you had the opportunity to. what's out of the ordinary here?
1 _THE_END_IS_NIGH_ 2018-05-23
We can't.
The Point.
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
the point looks more like dragging a girl through the mud for sleeping with people, not that you can't sleep with people.
if your point is, "we can't sleep with people", why are you attacking someone who can? that makes little sense.
1 _THE_END_IS_NIGH_ 2018-05-23
Trust me, we aren't being modest.
This is an anonymous forum she will never see. Hardly attacking.
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
so meaningless complaining, for the sake of complaining. I guess I understand. xD
1 Fogfroof 2018-05-23
Sort of like what youre doing now. Complaining about others "complaining"
Must have triggered your whore brain.
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
pointing out that your constant repeat of the same post, isn't really complaining.
I'm sorry your points make no sense.
I guess it kind of sucks when your biggest "logic", kind of makes no sense and gets defeated so easily. XD
by a whore brain, to boot!
1 Fogfroof 2018-05-23
You were complaining.
Your rebuttal was weak.
Your a whore on a incels subreddit.
Lol
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
you're*
don't worry, anger always makes people's arguments weak xD.
good try, though.
1 Fogfroof 2018-05-23
A spellbot whore on a incel forum
Lol
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
when your argument turns to insults, you've lost the argument. :)
1 Fogfroof 2018-05-23
It started off as insults you idiot.
Lol.
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
true, you never had an argument that made any sense. thanks for pointing that out.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-23
You're dumb as a female can be.
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
that feeling when you're so disconnected from reality and the opposite sex, that you assume anyone disagreeing with you is female.
good try though. xD
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-23
I assume that every dumb and retarded poster is a female.
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
you must live a very lonely life :( if you ever wanna chat or game or something, get at me
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-23
I have friends, a GF and a family who loves me, I'm doing very good. Hating women is just something that I do here, IRL i'm a normie as a normie can be.
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
right. xD
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
venting is good for mental health
being bullied is not
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
venting is good for mental health.
building a toxic community to fuel each other's depression and hatred for society, isn't really that good for you, tbh.
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
IT is the toxic community, should be banned
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
so, another community is toxic and that somehow negates the toxicity here?
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
yes cuz this one isn't toxic unless you think reality is toxic which I might agree with
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
publicly shaming someone because of their personal sexual history, seems pretty toxic to me.
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
not public plus that is ok compared to shaming them for being a virgin
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
I didn't realize that Reddit isn't a public forum?
you're right though, other people being toxic = toxic. you being toxic =/= toxic. good point
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
it's not this is all anonymous
we're not toxic tho just stating facts which is always ok
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
so by your logic, stating facts is always ok?
so a woman calling you an ugly incel, is ok. because it's true?
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
that's not ok cuz it is lookism and is as bad as racism
you should be forced to looksmatch
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
you just said stating facts is always right.
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-23
Or pointing out how fucked up our society has become
Seriously 9 year old girls are losing their virginity now the the class Chad
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
I'm sure you have witnessed this and experience it, right?
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-23
Knew of girls losing their virginity and doing drugs when they were 12 in my class
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
oh now it's 12?
lumping everyone into 1 warped view that you have, doesn't really make any sense. all you're doing is generating a toxic view of a giant group of people because you disagree with a small few. you're missing out on a great experience, because of your attitude. I have pity for you, buddy.
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-23
Yeah back when I was 12, pay attention
Now it's probably 9 knowing how whores minds work
Women are not unique, they have like 5 different personalities in total. Seriously the most boring things to talk to
Like?
Normie rhetoric 101
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
I'm sure you're an expert on females personality. I imagine you've dealt with a ton of them at an extremely personal level.
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-23
Looking for my Jim Halpert (Office is the best show btw)
My hobbies include eating, sleeping, stressing out, and netflix bingeing LOL
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
weird, you'd think since I've been with more than 5 women, id at least have come across 1/5 personalities that match that one, but I havent. maybe there are more than 5. xD
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-23
lol, you never met one girl that liked the Office?
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
I've met girls who like the office. I've never met a girl waiting for her jim or saying extremely cringey things like what you typed. you obviously got that from watching tv. you realize women are a lot different in tv shows, right?
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-23
So you're arguing with me and have no point? Cool
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
No, Im saying just because a girl like the tv show, doesn't automatically mean she fits your "I love Jim" mold that you said earlier.
All it comes down to, dude, is that you're super angry. You are angry and unhappy with your life and you are using women as a scapegoat for all your problems. I get it, dude. I dealt with a very close family member who was going down this same rabbit hole.
Your toxicity and rage are warping your point of view and it really sucks. Instead of being somewhat happy with what you do have, your becoming more and more angry and toxic. I wish all the best for you and hope 1 day, something snaps you outta this.
:)
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
also, first you said girls losing their virginity when they were 9. then you said when THEY were 12. not when you were 12. that's why I said "oh now it's 12?" so try following along to your own comments :)
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-23
I said girls now are losing it at 9 not when I was 9 you mongoloid lol
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
you said girls are losing it at 9. I said and you've experienced this of course? and you said they were losing it at 12! and I said oh now it's 12?
you must lie a lot. you can't even keep your own comments in order. xD
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-23
Yes
When I was 12 yeah
"Knew of girls losing their virginity and doing drugs when they were 12 in my class"
No it's probably like 9 now
Is English your first language?
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
I think you should go back and re-read the original comments because obviously English isn't your first:)
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-23
The original comments make it pretty clear I was talking about girls my age were losing their virginity when they were 12 and girls now probably younger
But seeing as we are just going in circles and you're adding nothing to any meaningful conversation I'll just report you and be on my way
1 Bahmanis 2018-05-23
i dont blame her at all, if i had the opportunity i certainly would
it's just that i dont have the opportunity and she does, which illustrates a wider point
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
and that point is that some people have advantages over other people? yea, that's life. everyone has advantaged and disadvantages over other people. that's life. it's not fair, why should it be? just means people like you need to work harder to get what you want.
1 Bahmanis 2018-05-23
tell that to a person born into poverty.
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
that's what I'm saying.
people in here complaining that other people are getting laid and they cant. because they are at a disadvantage. how "chads" have it so easy, etc.
you have advantages over people in poverty. you have advantages over people starving to death. you have advantages over millions and millions, if not billions of other people.
instead of looking up and being envious, look down and be be grateful
1 Bahmanis 2018-05-23
certainly, i agree with what your saying, this is a pretty unhealthy obsession and i think stems from my envious and maybe slightly narcissistic nature.
slightly off-topic, but we shouldn't accept economic inequality because 'life's unfair bucko' when our economic system is entirely created by us. i think we all have a duty to do our best to undermine capitalism and see to its end, if we want to pretend that everyone should be given a fair chance.
the same can not be said about our 'incel' situation, due it it being a primarily natural problem (aside from beauty standards portrayed by media and popular culture). i think for us, we just have to be grateful for the things we do have.
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
I think that's a really fair way of looking at it.
economy wise, I very much agree that something seriously needs to be fixed and CAN be fixed, for everyone, in North america, anyway, to live comfortably.
I'm sorry nature wasn't fair to you with genetics. the only reason I bring up being toxic and supporting toxicity is I've seen it destroy someone close to me and having all that hatred and anger, isn't worth it
1 Bahmanis 2018-05-23
im sorry that that someone close to you was overburdened with toxicity. its horrible to feel yourself slowly losing touch with reality.
i hope ill have the willpower to quit this sub and more importantly these thoughts. thanks for responding
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
if you ever need someone to chat with or vent to, always feel free to hit me up.
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
life isn't fair but society can make it fairer
do you tell black people to stop whining about racism, no govt can help make it fairer for them.
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
do you condone racism? is it really that different attacking someone for their race than you attacking women for their personal sexual history?
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
no but you do condone lookism which is the same as racism
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
I never said I condone it. I said it's life. you can't force people to be attracted to how someone looks.
I agree that hurtful posts about how incels look or how anyone looks, is not a nice way to act, but, acting this way about a 19 year old girls personal decisions, is just as evil and toxic
1 thumpar72 2018-05-23
i WOULDNT. IM MUSLIM. I WANNA MARRY MY WIFE.
1 lonewolf-20000 2018-05-23
holy fuck this shit triggers me
1 Leilane_Sousa 2018-05-23
hahahaha
1 sychosomaticBlonde 2018-05-23
That’s a lot of people, geez. Although if you compare the number of times she has had sex, it probably equals about the same number that would happen if she was in one long-term relationship for the same duration.
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-23
No. And why would that matter?
1 sychosomaticBlonde 2018-05-23
No what? And I don’t know, at first glance it just seems like a very large number and certainly well above the average, but then if you think about how being in a long-term relationship could lead to you having sex almost every day for years, it’s not actually more sex. It’s just different people. It could even be less sex.
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-23
It's different partners that is the problem. No shit the amount of sex in a ltr is greater than random hook ups
1 sychosomaticBlonde 2018-05-23
I mean I was totally about to judge the hell out of her for that ridiculously high number, but then I thought about it and realized why the hell does it matter that it’s coming from many different people?
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-23
Then go ahead be a pornstar, u'll make plenty of $$$$$
1 sychosomaticBlonde 2018-05-23
Just because I decided not to judge her for it doesn’t mean that’s what I want to do too. Everybody has different sex drives and emotional states. I am currently in a long-term relationship so I’m good.
1 sheepshoops 2018-05-23
Fake and gay
1 liquidpapr 2018-05-23
I feel like this belongs here. https://lookism.net/Thread-Black-Pill-just-find-a-girl-in-college-bro-THE-FINAL-ENDPILL-SHUT-IT-DOWN If you do the math she's averaging a new guy about every week.
/u/Toolman890, /u/BananaPancakeCove, /u/ButtsMacGillacuty
1 tionsquest 2018-05-23
Fuk this gay earth
1 mikepencetheincel 2018-05-23
Being a slut means over 100 lays by the time you’re out of high school now. She’s been fucking from 13-14 up most likely.
1 AggresiveCuck6 2018-05-23
It's going to be impossible to find a virgin when you are older unless you are very religious.
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-23
Even though i know a lot of religious girls who are sluts
1 roloem91 2018-05-23
You realise that you’re mocking a girl for the amount of people she had sex with whilst complaining you’re being judged for the amount of people you’ve had sex with?
1 wont_tell_i_refuse_ 2018-05-23
R
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-23
Being a virgin is not a bad thing but being a whore is
1 Kookerpea 2018-05-23
What is a respectable number?
1 REEEeeeeeeeeeecel 2018-05-23
0
1 Kookerpea 2018-05-23
I think its 5
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-23
5 is okay for todays world, >10 is a slut. 50 is disgusting slut, 100-200 or above is just a cum rag
1 Kookerpea 2018-05-23
Yep. I agree
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
5 is too high broski
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-23
For me it is. But i can't choose
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
Si, you can. Be number 6, but don't give her her first ring
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-23
I'm never gonna give her ring
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
You shouldn't give her shit, ever
1 UserN-me 2018-05-23
Two types of people are named Dakota, actresses and strippers.
Meanwhile society says, “You gotta pump those numbers way up, Those are rookie numbers!”
1 AspieCel47 2018-05-23
I am 47 years old, not terrible looking, and I have had 2. I did the girl I lost my virginity to once. I had a 5 year relationship where we did it a lot, that's it. 50 partners is a whore, pure and simple, I'm sorry but it is true.
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
agreed but get outta here chad
1 AspieCel47 2018-05-23
Seriously? I'll send a pic bro, if that's what it takes. I am 20 years out without a hug, a kiss, a handhold, or a fuck. NOT A CHAD, women find me repulsive, and yes, I am 6 feet tall to the millimeter.
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
chad confirmed
1 AspieCel47 2018-05-23
Dude, I'm new to this forum because someone told me about Incels at work because he thought I sounded like an Incel. I never heard of you guys before 5/21/18. I will make a positive contribution to this forum, if anything, Because I was one of the lucky Incels to get fucked.
It took a lot of work, for both of the women I fucked, it's not easy, But once I got past 30, chicks started treating me like 'CHUNK' from the Goonies movie..
Don't call me a Chad again.
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
ok chad
1 AspieCel47 2018-05-23
You'll see. I hate 'em, with the best of 'em. I guess that makes me 'Chad, King of THE INCELS' With 2 notches on his belt. I do feel sorry for you though, if that is what you want to hear. I lost my virginity at 19 to my friends girlfriend, who was obviously a caring soul. I gave her a backrub that turned into the hottest sex of my life. How? Do you think I did that? As an Incel?
It took work, and that girl was a total whore [cute though].
1 AspieCel47 2018-05-23
BTW, I'm sportin' 5 inches on a good day, and yes, size matters to the ladies. It's over for me, and I know it. I've been depressed most of my life, because I know, deep down That I can't fuck a chick 'deep down'. And I wish more than anything that, that didn't matter, because I am a good and decent man.
Chads, are not good or decent, they are fuckpoles that women want.
1 AspieCel47 2018-05-23
I'm looking for one Incel on this forum, to reply - 'Well Said!',
1 AspieCel47 2018-05-23
I took 'The Black Pill' in 2000.
1 AspieCel47 2018-05-23
Don't tell me, you can't face me. I am, 'King of the Incels' already. My God, if you virgins can't respect the advice of elders, where are you going to be in 20 years, like me? Women, are driven by their vaginas to love and fuck the wrong men. Is that our fault? It is your duty, to be the right man who gets denied anyways. It's what we do.
1 wont_tell_i_refuse_ 2018-05-23
It's over
1 AspieCel47 2018-05-23
It is indeed OVER, but why are hot chicks denied you? Because, women, are more than you, that's the Truth boyo. They're better. They are prettier, They, are sexy. It's more about numbers THAN YOU THINK. tHAT'S HOW i GOT LAID.
1 IRideParkCity 2018-05-23
Lmao well said my dude.
Guys don't call him a Chad again.
1 AlixaOathkeeper 2018-05-23
My first ex was a more than a 6 inch while my current partner is an exact 6 (meaning first ex has more length)
But the thing is first ex never made me orgasm. In a two year and a half relationship not once did he ever make me go to cloud nine.
Then my current partner came to my life, shorter yes but his length was the perfect fit for mine. My first ex i guess was too long(which made it hurt) and he only fuck to make himself cum. My current partner on the other hand as much as possible wants ME to orgasm first, if not he tries to make me cum multiple times after he had his (its easy to orgasm multiple times for a woman after having so once then have continuous stimulation)
No its not the length that makes you unable to find another woman. Maybe your personality changed maybe youre not as charming, approachable and friendly to women nowadays. Youre like a really tall guy right? Sometimes being so huge is intimidating for women, to make them accept you easier you have to show that youre not so big and scary.
From what i read in this comment thread you made..you probably became more introverted towards women which leads to no more interaction with any female...meaning no girlfriend.
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-23
I can't even get a whore to fuck me, that is the defenition of incel
1 13139 2018-05-23
What? they won't take your money?
WTF, you ought to complain to the Whore Board about this, unacceptable behavior against someone who doesn't beat women.
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-23
Nah, there is no prostitues in my country or better worded it is illegal and don't know anyone who fucks for money. I'm gonna have to wait for 2-3 years and go in netherlands where is legal.
What i meant is i know a lot of sluts, who fuck normies too, for free, i'm just too ugly for her to fuck me.
1 moggedbyall 2018-05-23
learn to take criticism and ignore it if you know for sure it is not right. You don't have to take everything to heart or explain everything to anonymous people on the net. People will mock you for having sex twice because no incels here have ever even felt the touch of a woman (without paying for it as in some cases).
1 Leilane_Sousa 2018-05-23
hahaha not incel enough? Pathetic
1 Leilane_Sousa 2018-05-23
lol
1 Leilane_Sousa 2018-05-23
woman here Seeing you guys eating each others guts is particarly amazing . Welcome to incel world, "chad". That's how things work here
1 Leilane_Sousa 2018-05-23
kisses from IT
1 Leilane_Sousa 2018-05-23
Woman here Watching you guys eating each other's guts over who is chad and who is incel is particularly entertaining welcome to incel world that how tjings work here, dumbass. This is a hate group. Incels come here to spill hate. What did you expect? No one is going to say "well said" to you
1 firmiiiiiip 2018-05-23
roastie got toasty
1 Leilane_Sousa 2018-05-23
hahahaha this guys arguing who is incel enough are toasty. I'm chilling
1 firmiiiiiip 2018-05-23
the beef is sizzling
1 13139 2018-05-23
Man, you're making me salivate.
I haven't eaten a steak in years.
1 Quixificent 2018-05-23
We're talking about people who are are chronically depressed, sometimes to the point of wanting to commit suicide. Please have some human empathy and don't talk about suicidal people as if they're animals in a zoo.
A lot of them have been extensively bullied or mocked, and so they are distrustful. So they post pretty harsh things. The world hasn't been kind to these souls. That doesn't mean they're a hate group -- they're not even organized. Sure, some individual incels are hateful. But many aren't. You shouldn't try to paint everyone with the same brush when there are quite a few individual differences between people here. The public posts and comments are often memes and hyperbolic cynical statements. That doesn't necessarily mean that the people posting that hyperbolic stuff are hateful or even necessarily believe it. Really, it doesn't. Also, there are a lot of trolls and fake accounts that post shocking things so that they can be screencapped and posted on IT. I've talked to enough people here to know that this isn't really a hate group.
1 bearown 2018-05-23
If you were hot, you could probably fuck one girl a week. That’s around 50 a year. Just because you’re bitter about not being super attractive doesn’t mean you should put down others because they are.
1 iEatsFood 2018-05-23
Yes, 50 partners is excessive. But I don't get you guys trying to play it off as average. I'm 19 and most women I know have had one, two, or none at all. It's not average to have fifty partners at this age, if ever. You guys are specifically and purposefully chasing the kind of women who you feel like you can easily pick apart and condescend. If only you guys actually tried to get to know someone without first assuming that she's already not good enough, then you wouldn't be involuntarily celibate.
1 4bricks 2018-05-23
Fuck my fucking life. Fuck. Even if I did find a wholesome girl, I'd never even believe the number she gave me. I'm so fucked. Fuck.
1 thumpar72 2018-05-23
fuck. fucking fuck my shit up fam. FUCK MY SHIT UP. JUST...
JUST.
FUCK. it's so over. Muhammad Ali RadiAllahu anh said "you think your wife is yours? die, go to heaven, visit your bedroom as a ghost a year later. you still think she's yours? I'm trying to get good with God so this afterlife will be peaceful for me"
biggest blackpill EVER.
1 SaintKines 2018-05-23
Exactly. This is one of the many reasons you guys need to drop the whole virgin girl bulllshit. No such thing once a girl reaches around 15. An incel asking for a white virgin is literally a beggar asking for the holy grail.
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-23
So what's left? Making greens, fucking escorts and watch the world burn?
1 SaintKines 2018-05-23
And the occasional hook up if and when they happen. Or making peace with the fact that the girl you finally do get will have a past. Finding things you care about almost as much as ass and being in a relationship. If you build things or are some kind of artist you can still leave something behind that is part of your creation. I sound like a fucking hippy it's true. And psychedelic drugs, don't leave the earth without having had a few trips passed the vail.
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-23
We all trip on DMT just before we die, except when ur brains explode.
1 qwerty8008135 2018-05-23
Just accept it
1 13139 2018-05-23
Ignorance is bliss, just hope there's no photo evidence of her past sins.
1 Mest666 2018-05-23
more pics, mofo
1 LtTom 2018-05-23
Ya'll are so socially fucked lol
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-23
Oh thanks for pointing it, Einstein.
1 GreenTeaOnMyDesk 2018-05-23
"Dakota"
Name checks out
1 CaligulaWasRight 2018-05-23
Thats fucked up. 50 guys at age 19.
1 Board_Gaming 2018-05-23
I can't believe this is most girls. She has to be an exception. No women I know have ever had that many boyfriends.
1 AspieCel47 2018-05-23
She's not an exception. I know a girl at work, she is 20, has had many, many fucks. She's nice, but Jesus, How many guys do you have to fuck, before you realize, men have feelings?
1 moggedbyall 2018-05-23
she's board_gaming, a femoid mod on braincels. No one likes her here. As a general rule, always downvote regardless of what she has to say. She also weighs 220 pounds. Just helping out a newfag.
1 AspieCel47 2018-05-23
newfag. That is awesome. information - that's the last thing I need.
1 moggedbyall 2018-05-23
why does only diarrhea come out your mouth? Or is it that do you only speak out of your fat ass?
1 Board_Gaming 2018-05-23
I only speak truth.
1 moggedbyall 2018-05-23
kek the more you comment, the more I get to downvote. It's silly but it's fun.
1 Board_Gaming 2018-05-23
And I'm not going to care no matter how many times you do it.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-23
LOL BOYFRIENDS? They were probably just ONS...
1 XenoditReborn 2018-05-23
that's why age of consent should be lowered to 14. It's impossible to find a legal virgin adult girl nowadays
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-23
That would only inflate n-counts more. U r virgin coz u r ugly, don't u get it?
1 anonymousvirgin88 2018-05-23
I haven't even had a 5 minute conversation with 50 females, let alone having had sexual intercourse with that many.
L I F E O N T U T O R I A L M O D E
1 darkdarkDog 2018-05-23
This is hurtful to read jesus christ....
1 EricKingCantona 2018-05-23
Normal people do not give a single fuck about any of this.
What is your count?
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-23
They should, there is evidence that shows the higher a woman's body count is the higher the chance of divorce
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
There are plenty 'normal' people in this thread who think it's too much
1 fashi0n4ble 2018-05-23
Not common
1 throwaway73728274 2018-05-23
Well fuck. I can’t seem to imagine anyone around my age fucking, but yet here is some proof (I’m trusting this isn’t faked).
1 AspieCel47 2018-05-23
I'm 47, I cannot believe most of the chicks I am seeing are sexually active, but they have fucked everyone. Everyone, that is not me of course. I do indulge in Porn, however, I know, a 14 inch, black cock fits inside a demure and beautiful white girl. She, does not dream of anything less. BLACK PILL
1 SaintKines 2018-05-23
Normie here. What's more Roastie guys, a girl that's fucked 40 individual guys once or a girl that has fucked 2 guys 500 times over a few years? Get the numbers out of your heads. Because 1: you will never find a virgin white girl of legal age. 2: if you did you're the last person she was saving herself for. If she's waited that long she's pickier than your average Stacie. There are no modest attractive women. 3: you're in no position to be picky. Just get some ass asap. 4: you can't hold it against them. They're only doing what you would do if only you could. 5: I believe most of you really want a virgin because you're afraid if you do get laid you'll just be rejected again because of your lack of experience. You don't need to worry about this. There's not that much to it. You've seen porn, just do that. Hell, if you even bother to care enough to try and do a good job you're already ahead of most of the guys they've fucked.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-23
A whore who fucks lots of guys are much more prone to cheat. Each new dick she has meaningless sex with is basically she fucking the intimacy out of her pussy. After so many partners sex become something meaningless and then when she decide to marry someone sex will still be meaningless.
I really really wish I could find a comment made by an user here who explained it so good that I will always remember it. If someone can help me please. The comment is only a few days old.
1 SaintKines 2018-05-23
I understand. So to you the obvious answer is the girl who only fucked 40 times but with 40 guys is more of a Roastie than the girl who fucked 500 times with 2 guys. I just want to get a better idea of what makes a Roastie. I actually agree, I just would never use the name Roastie.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-23
I don't use it IRL for obvious reasons.
1 DirtyBristolBoi 2018-05-23
Maybe she meant 50 times? I'm pretty black-pilled, but 50 different guys while still a teenager seems difficult to achieve without her lowering her standards well below Chad tier. Did you have regular exposure to 50+ Chads at that age? This chick is barely out of high school, and most male high school student's are very unattractive.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-23
LOL a woman can fuck one guy day yes day no and in 100 days (3 months and 10 days) she'll have fucked 50 guys. It's easy for this roasties.
1 qwerty8008135 2018-05-23
How attractive is she?
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-23
Does it matter? She's got a wet warm hole between her legs, that's what matters.
1 Katetothelyn 2018-05-23
I thought 3 at 20 was high.. damn lol
1 tropical_cockonut 2018-05-23
Teen girls are sluts for chad. Islam will prevent further degeneracy
1 AlixaOathkeeper 2018-05-23
Idk she sounds like she’s lying to seem sexy and outgoing? Im 20 years old and i only had like 3 sexual partners including my current relationship..
First one is my first ex, second is some rebound guy who took advantage of my emotional vulnerability due to recent break up with first ex..third is my partner right now for more than a year and a half.
Sleeping around with that many people is like asking to die of a cocktail of stds
1 iamhopeless256 2018-05-23
This isn't even that surprising to me.
1 Weeajew_ 2018-05-23
how tr did u even get her number lol
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-23
Chadfishing
1 not_good_looking 2018-05-23
She probably fucked 500 guys. The other 450 were not counted because they were “mistakes” or “that happened” or “what goes on in A foreign country stays in another country” tee hee hee
1 AspieCel47 2018-05-23
Femoid - someone who cares - who touches her clit. Femoid - Someone who can touch her clit. Femoid - Someone makes 100Gs, or someone better looking can touch my clit. It is, all about looks with Fembots.
1 peachtealouis 2018-05-23
I’m 19 and I’ve had sex with one man, my boyfriend. I have had one other man’s penis in my mouth but that was completely unconsenual, even if that counts all of 2 ppl. Idk where y’all are finding these girls.
1 MagratM 2018-05-23
I can't eat nuts any more. My digestive system gets a little annoyed if I do.
1 Chadbutblackpilled 2018-05-23
No cause i know for sure your roast is so disgusting pale gingerwhale
1 Wasirthepussy 2018-05-23
Nope, no matter how many chicks he fucks there’s no disgust, you lot are the gatekeepers, it’s your choice to let people in to your house.
1 Luna4x0 2018-05-23
The prevalence of porn has actually increased sexual frustration. Seems counter intuitive, but there it is. Too much porn desensitizes people from what actual intimacy feels like. There is a disconnect between what we see on a screen and what we do with a partner. It creates unrealistic expectations when consumed in excess.
1 realmonkeycel 2018-05-23
have you met the average college girl lol
1 VarsVanVliet 2018-05-23
so, another community is toxic and that somehow negates the toxicity here?
1 Bahmanis 2018-05-23
im sorry that that someone close to you was overburdened with toxicity. its horrible to feel yourself slowly losing touch with reality.
i hope ill have the willpower to quit this sub and more importantly these thoughts. thanks for responding
1 youjustabattlerapper 2018-05-23
The most important behavioral/personality trait for women is agreeableness.
That's it.
Step back and think really hard, and you'll realize that many of the girls you think are cool are really just extremely agreeable and willing to talk to you. Not remarkable in any other sense. Granted, most men aren't remarkable in any sense either personality wise.
1 Moist___ 2018-05-23
I also think cucks and fucking corpses are disgusting. Does that make me jealous of them?
1 iEatsFood 2018-05-23
Sure, there's a lot of racism towards black people. But for the most part it's still quite extreme to say that another race of people are animals. And you know which famous person openly thought black people were animals? Adolf Hitler.
1 tuesdayrain 2018-05-23
No, people hate blacks who act like thug drug dealers, but the same can be said for any race. There's nothing with black people who act civilized.