When have you ever seen this advice applied to women? Please link a thread where a “forever alone woman” is being told that she should go to the gym. All I have ever seen is them being told that they’re wonderful human beings and the right one will come along.
And they get scared that if they do anything other than exercise their flab will turn into huge masculine muscles so large that nobody can tell they are a woman and this will happen the second they touch any resistance exercise.
It is and it isn't. As with everything, there are actions one can take to mitigate being overweight, other health issues leave it out of the person's control, to a degree.
My point is, overweight women have and continue to be considered "less than" their more fit counterparts, facing in many cases the same obstacles an Incel might. Her intelligence and personality are almost all but ignored by other males. It goes both ways.
Are we pretending that ridiculing fat people is widely seen as socially acceptable like shiting on ugly dudes with the audacity to suggest their loneliness might have something to do with their looks and not their character?
Ridiculing someone for their weight or looks is not acceptable, it's being an asshole. As a society, we're promoting "anti-bullying" campaigns and there have been body-positive movements. However, what society wants to promote and what society actually does are two different things. Fat/Look shaming is not considered socially acceptable, but it is socially tolerated generally.
Body acceptance doesn't extend to dudes sorry. And yes it's totally acceptable to shit on an ugly dude, they're told constantly to just cope. Where as ugly women are told they're totally not ugly and men are pigs for rejecting them based on looks.
Who is blaming you for being surrounded by classic 80s movie bullies? You apparently live/work/socialize somewhere where it is socially acceptable for people to be awful to others for no good reason, if one believes your words. That sucks. If at all within your power, I'd try to gtfo. Sounds miserable.
Who is blaming you for being surrounded by classic 80s movie bullies?
You are, and nice way of diminishing bullying.
You apparently live/work/socialize somewhere where it is socially acceptable for people to be awful to others for no good reason
Yeah it's called capitalist society, and it built to be inescapable. Guess you think all those people in prison are just to lazy to escape c-c-c-c-cause you heard that some prisoners have so you know it's possible.
That sucks.
Fuck your patronizing concern trolling.
If at all within your power, I'd try to gtfo. Sounds miserable.
It's not within my power, and it's not something I brought on myself. Nice try you dumb liberal.
I'm not diminishing bullying, I'm describing it as I see it. I was personally tormented through my high school run. I still have lasting scars from that time in my life and I know I'll never fully recover from that. But now I'm of the mindset that life's too short to be surrounded by negativity. I've cut "friends" and family from my life I deemed toxic. I left my previous employer for the same reason.
Yeah it's called capitalist society, and it built to be inescapable.
So you're blaming capitalism for people being mean?
Fuck your patronizing concern trolling.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ok
Nice try you dumb liberal.
I'm not the one bitching about Capitalism.
I'm not diminishing bullying, I'm describing it as I see it.
By describing them as "Classic 80's Bullies" as in fictional caricatures that no one takes seriously yes, you are diminishing it. I'm just calling your bullshit like I see it.
But now I'm of the mindset that life's too short to be surrounded by negativity.
Again with this liberal bullshit, this systems works cause see, it worked for me! Fuck off, you're just trying to diffuse anger because it undermines your fairy tale, not out of any real concern.
I left my previous employer for the same reason.
WHAT PART OF CAPITALISM DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND, MANY PEOPLE CANNOT LEAVE SHITTY SITUATIONS EASILY.
So you're blaming capitalism for people being mean?
Yes, it's a big part of it. Social media is behind much of hyper gamy, Social media being a wholly capitalist enterprise. Also what's considered attractive is deeply tied to how much money you have.
¯_(ツ)_/¯ ok
You're still doing it.
I'm not the one bitching about Capitalism.
Liberals are pro capitalist moron, see Hilary Clinton.
WHAT PART OF CAPITALISM DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND, MANY PEOPLE CANNOT LEAVE SHITTY SITUATIONS EASILY.
Something something bootstraps
Also what's considered attractive is deeply tied to how much money you have.
It always has been. Nothing new there.
Liberals are pro capitalist moron, see Hilary Clinton.
Hillary is a Democrat. I wouldn't say she's a "liberal." Most liberals, going by their legislative efforts, support regulated economic policies. Not quite pure Capitalism. Are Conservatives no longer Pro-Capitalist???
Liberals and Conservatives are the fucking same on economic policy. The only thing that kind of part on is homosexuals. You can't even say Conservatives are racist and Democrats aren't. It's just Conservatives are OVERTLY racist, and Democrats aren't, but still actually racist.
WOW, 1 fucking issue they substantially disagree on, and abortion.
I could be wrong, but I have a different interpretation of what she’s trying to convey. I believe that in this scenario, the “women’s dating advice” is advice that a woman would give to an unspecified third party, and the “men’s dating advice” is advice that a man would give.
She’s not ironically implying that men have to work harder to date. She’s implying that women give complicated, practical advice, while men give advice that is entitled, overly simplistic, and ultimately unhelpful. It is a joke at men’s expense. But it’s not about the ease/difficulty of dating as determined by gender.
It’s just how everyone feels in our society. The other gender seems like they have it really easy. It’s why guys on here say the same thing as the woman on Twitter. It’s a universal feeling, but it’s not really true for either side, since both sides feel it about the other.
Step 1: Take a selfie
Step 2: Download tinder and upload the photo
Step 3: Have your pick from the hundreds of men you match with and who would be willing to take you out on a date.
That's literally it. Doesn't matter how you look or how much you weigh.
I know you guys always say fatcel is Volcel for guys and that is true but an overweight woman doesn't even have to worry about being incel. She will just get less male attention. But she still will get attention.
But I have female friends who also use tinder and they send me screenshots of the openers they receive from dudes. It’s pretty bad.
That's under the assumption that those openers and the users of this community are the same. It's really not. Most people here don't even get a tinder match. Some have even done experiments and were able to have conversations.
It’s not that easy for a chick to find a guy she’s into.
But it's not that easy for an actual ugly dude to find a girl that even gives him a chance. She'd be going off of assumptions and immediately writing off the ugly dude based on her bad experiences with other ugly dudes.
LOL what is the point of this post? So basically because not all women can get a chad life is harder for them? LMFAO.
If chad sent them those exact messages they'd be fucking soaking. Chad can literally say that he is a Nazi rapist and women will still message him first.
It’s not about getting a Chad. It’s about getting someone who doesn’t want to rape you or abuse you or just show up and stick it in you, cum, and leave as quick as possible. That’s appealing for a guy, or some guys, but that’s not what women naturally want. So the abundance of men offering that it like the abundance of women offering friendzones for ugly dudes. It’s ok, but it’s not really why you want, right? That’s how women feel when these guys bombard with their dick pics.
No chicks wants to bang those guys though. Cause they’re creeps or gross. Or rude. Or assholes.
Did it ever occur to you that those low-value guys might be on the chicks level? If a woman can only attract creepy, gross, rude, or asshole guys, maybe she deserves a creepy, gross, rude or asshole guy. Maybe she, herself, is a creep, or gross, or rude, or a cunt. Who's to say every woman is better than every suitor that chases her?
It's not that easy for a chick to find a guy she's into.
Gee, I wonder why! Probably because women's standards have shot out into orbit.
I have female friends who also use tinder and they send me screenshots of the openers they receive from dudes.
You don't even have to do that if you don't want to.
You go on Craigslist and you say "woman needs dick, send pictures with face" and it's like the "Heaven on Earth" scene from Rush Hour 2 but from your phone at home
How to get chad guide for women:
-Have a reasonably low BF%
-Be decent at fakeup
That’s basically it. This will get you plenty of quality no-ghost matches from chadlites at the very least.
That is very interesting. I agree with the premise of the being attractive makes life easier thing but I don’t think pulling data from some of the dating apps are really the best routes for relationship data. For hookup data sure but not for relationship data. That’s not what those apps are for.
Before or after the update of the messaging system? I haven't used it in a while, but I didn't see that many people on there who just wanted to hookup when I used it 1 year ago.
I used it about a year ago. I have a different perspective and experience as a female. This was my experience and it’s strictly anecdotal. But I mean it didn’t matter how good looking a guy was. If they messaged me it was to hookup.
I guess I’m the opposite. But that’s just me. I personally like to know someone a little bit first but all women want different things at different stages
I mean there is a happy medium isn’t there? Something that isn’t “let’s smash” but isn’t more than a sentence or two to get the conversation started? It’s not all or nothing.
When i catfished as an average girl i got like 70% decent first messages, amounting to about 200. To think any girl would complain about that (if i got a single message like the fake profile did) is beyond me.
Only some men use sites like OkCupid and POF. These sites mostly cater to people who are looking for relationships, not hookups. But men who managed to find a partner IRL (the majority of men) don't tend to create OkCupid profiles. So the men on OkCupid and similar sites do not constitute a representative sample of men as a whole. The same goes for women. Like men, only some women create OkCupid profiles -- the ones who didn't find partners IRL. They're not representative of women as a whole. People might also create profiles there because they're in an "open relationship" or polyamorous.
Tinder is the opposite. Tinder mostly caters to hookups, not LTRs. Not all women use Tinder (yes, it's true). The women who use Tinder are not a representative sample. They're women who are looking for hookups, which is not something that all women want -- and even for women who have done it before, the majority (anonymously) report that they didn't enjoy it and wouldn't want to do it again (I can provide references if necessary). The men who use actively/regularly use Tinder aren't representative, either. I could be wrong here, but I think that the majority of men who regularly use Tinder enjoy hookups and are "dominant" (possibly Dark Triad or Tetrad, although I wouldn't know) and rated as highly attractive. I'm not sure how the two are linked, but it's possible that highly attractive men become confident or even overconfident because of the positive feedback. Note that I'm distinguishing here between having a profile that you used for a little while and having a profile that you use all the time.
Another problem with Tinder is that people often don't bother to read the bios, or the super-offensive bios created in the Tinder experiments were taken as jokes (e.g., "I'll ruin your life!"). These are actually just alternative explanations that I've heard other people give. I personally am not sure how Tinder displays, because I've never used it and I don't have a smartphone right now anyway. But even if it displays decent-length bios along with pictures, the point that the bios could have been taken as dark or ironic jokes still remains.
I've heard that some of the frequently cited Tinder and OkCupid experiments were actually the result of the user subbing out something that is funny or not that bad (such a shoplifting candy or whatever) in their original profiles for something horribly offensive (e.g., multiple acts of child molestation and rape). I've also looked at the misogynistic and/or violence-promoting experimental profiles, and the bios were written to such a comical extreme that had I not known, even I would assume the author was joking.
I think that if we really want to validate the these experiments (which, again, don't necessarily reflect most people, so we'd be validating the experiments for those subgroups), we should go further. You (general you) should create a profile with an attractive man and make the original bio offensive and scary. I'm not sure whether there's a way to prove that someone has kept the bio text intact throughout the whole experiment, but if there is, that should be done as well. Then, when women message you, message them back and make sure that, in those messages, you warn them about your history after saying hello, etc. And not just a vague reference to criminal history -- list specific crimes and make it clear that you aren't just messing around. This would be easiest with child molestation, because you'd basically be required to inform the woman right off the bat in case she's around kids a lot. Again, it has to sound serious enough so that the woman realizes that the bio text isn't a joke. Then include screencaps of the women's reactions when you confirm that you're actually a multiply convicted child molester. That would be an unassailable black pill. The current pills are not very potent.
Also, for the sake of thoroughness, the experiment really should include 4 groups:
Attractive men with nice bios
Attractive men with scary bios
Unattractive men with nice bios (exactly the same bio as for Nice Chad)
Unattractive men with scary bios (exactly the same bio as for Dark Chad)
(Should I make this a post? I'm hoping someone with Tinder will actually do it)
The people who come here to "kick em while they are down" need therapy too. Incels dont really bother anybody. The people who come here to constantly bother them, and give them power, are the real losers. Emotionally mature people dont spend hours online harassing others.
Go to a place where you'll spend your money in exchange of a normie's time where you'll tell your problems and he'll try to bluepill you again or turn you into a medicated zombie. In the end therapy doesn't work, years of it won't change your facial bone sctructre.
you know, women don’t just want to be in a relationship. They want to be in a good relationship which eventually leads to something more. Therefore they are picky, they want the best. A lot of you guys however just want to fuck a chick.
You femoids can't even be honest with yourselves about how much this matters.
Incel who wants physical relationships: disgusting.
Chad? You get the point. Shit even in your post just now you defended them: "...yeah, well at least he pretended to care!"
This shit seriously infuriates me
Does she not get own hypocrisy and lack of self awareness? This has literally nothing to do with misogyny, it's her own fucking contradictory words
1 in 3 women and have been victims of [some form of] physical violence by an intimate partner within their lifetime.
1 in 4 women and have been victims of severe physical violence by an intimate partner in their lifetime.
1 in 7 women and have been stalked by an intimate partner during their lifetime to the point in which they felt very fearful or believed that they or someone close to them would be harmed or killed.
Yea that selection works amazingly, congratulations.
It doesn’t sound entitled at all. You sound entitled: „Why would they choose someone better than me instead of settling with me?“
People wish the best option available. They deserve it because they work for it, as the tweet already said. It’s (y)our duty to become the best available option.
I didn't say anything even close to that. "Best", "better", "settling." Your attitudes and way of thinking are emotionally stunted. Good luck forming a happy, stable relationship when you constantly compare your partners to others and wonder if you could "do better."
Except reality is pretty much the opposite if that tweet. We had a poster here who bragged about being hypergamous and that men were the ones who have to work to prove their were worthy.
Sociation is quite an important contributer to mental health and, whether anyone wants to admit it or not, people don't like to associate with people that are so physically unattractive they barely register on an out of 10 scale. I think you are somewhat mixed up between niceguys and incels. Incels are people who know they have zero prospects of being in a relationship.
Wow you talk like a female. Why should this guys do something to change the equation when they know for sure it's over for them? And why does it bother you? And if you don't like how this community works just leave and never come back, you're being a little bitch coming here by your own choice and complaining that you feel offended by what you read.
Funny because you’re being the one sounding like a butthurt little girl. I‘m not offended, I’m somply trying to understand this group a bit better. No one forces you to talk to me.
Playing music, doing science, enjoying cooking, going to gym. Like nothing amazing but it gives topics to talk about. I play shit loads of video games but don't talk about this really unless they do to, bit shit but some people still have a retarded mentality about games being a waste of time (it is I guess but no more than many other hobbies).
Yeah, nothing special really. You don't have to have some outlandish talent or something to be interesting. I get a bit spectrumy when I talk about things I'm passionate about and some people like that I guess. Showing that you care about things is good.
Ah yes, drugs are always a help for helping things along :D
LMAO black guy is going off on this land whale, and some white knight cuck comes in to defend her. Funny thing is I guarantee the black guy gets laid more than the white knight whale defender.
This, but with the genders reversed. There are thousands of single guys who would gladly date this whore, but she haves no eyes for them and wants a chad who is ok with the idea of settling down. Disgusting as a female can be.
Everything a woman ever says that they think is unabashedly right only applies to Chad. Men are paid more? Only Chad is. Men have it easy in dating? Only Chad. Men think they are entitled? Yeah only Chads do because women let them feel that way by praising them every way they can.
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1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
Wait this is satire isn't it
Like...It's literally the other way around. The genders should be swapped.
1 Kwantuum 2018-05-23
It's too big to not be satire. But then, Poe's law.
1 SuicidalCel 2018-05-23
I looked up the tweet and the replies under it. It's not satire. She's just that low IQ.
1 AprilYi20 2018-05-23
Women literally never get told to go to the gym, hence why gyms are like 90 percent dudes.
1 shabangcohen 2018-05-23
Women get told to go to yoga/pilates/spinning classes
1 Idk12344482305 2018-05-23
When have you ever seen this advice applied to women? Please link a thread where a “forever alone woman” is being told that she should go to the gym. All I have ever seen is them being told that they’re wonderful human beings and the right one will come along.
1 CountyMcCounterson 2018-05-23
And they get scared that if they do anything other than exercise their flab will turn into huge masculine muscles so large that nobody can tell they are a woman and this will happen the second they touch any resistance exercise.
1 Luna4x0 2018-05-23
Are we pretending that fat women have never been ridiculed or viewed as the comedic relief?
1 JarlPaul 2018-05-23
Are we pretending that being fat isn't a choice?
1 Luna4x0 2018-05-23
It is and it isn't. As with everything, there are actions one can take to mitigate being overweight, other health issues leave it out of the person's control, to a degree.
My point is, overweight women have and continue to be considered "less than" their more fit counterparts, facing in many cases the same obstacles an Incel might. Her intelligence and personality are almost all but ignored by other males. It goes both ways.
1 Moist___ 2018-05-23
Kek, one can be controlled an one can't. No respect for lazy fatties, especially women
1 ButtsMacGillacuty 2018-05-23
Are we pretending that ridiculing fat people is widely seen as socially acceptable like shiting on ugly dudes with the audacity to suggest their loneliness might have something to do with their looks and not their character?
1 Luna4x0 2018-05-23
Ridiculing someone for their weight or looks is not acceptable, it's being an asshole. As a society, we're promoting "anti-bullying" campaigns and there have been body-positive movements. However, what society wants to promote and what society actually does are two different things. Fat/Look shaming is not considered socially acceptable, but it is socially tolerated generally.
1 ButtsMacGillacuty 2018-05-23
Body acceptance doesn't extend to dudes sorry. And yes it's totally acceptable to shit on an ugly dude, they're told constantly to just cope. Where as ugly women are told they're totally not ugly and men are pigs for rejecting them based on looks.
1 Luna4x0 2018-05-23
You know some really shitty people then.
1 ButtsMacGillacuty 2018-05-23
Liberals in a nutshell
Issues that effect me are systemic.
Issues that don't effect me are your own fault. TEE HEE.
1 Luna4x0 2018-05-23
Who is blaming you for being surrounded by classic 80s movie bullies? You apparently live/work/socialize somewhere where it is socially acceptable for people to be awful to others for no good reason, if one believes your words. That sucks. If at all within your power, I'd try to gtfo. Sounds miserable.
1 ButtsMacGillacuty 2018-05-23
You are, and nice way of diminishing bullying.
Yeah it's called capitalist society, and it built to be inescapable. Guess you think all those people in prison are just to lazy to escape c-c-c-c-cause you heard that some prisoners have so you know it's possible.
Fuck your patronizing concern trolling.
It's not within my power, and it's not something I brought on myself. Nice try you dumb liberal.
1 Luna4x0 2018-05-23
I'm not diminishing bullying, I'm describing it as I see it. I was personally tormented through my high school run. I still have lasting scars from that time in my life and I know I'll never fully recover from that. But now I'm of the mindset that life's too short to be surrounded by negativity. I've cut "friends" and family from my life I deemed toxic. I left my previous employer for the same reason.
1 ButtsMacGillacuty 2018-05-23
By describing them as "Classic 80's Bullies" as in fictional caricatures that no one takes seriously yes, you are diminishing it. I'm just calling your bullshit like I see it.
Again with this liberal bullshit, this systems works cause see, it worked for me! Fuck off, you're just trying to diffuse anger because it undermines your fairy tale, not out of any real concern.
WHAT PART OF CAPITALISM DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND, MANY PEOPLE CANNOT LEAVE SHITTY SITUATIONS EASILY.
Yes, it's a big part of it. Social media is behind much of hyper gamy, Social media being a wholly capitalist enterprise. Also what's considered attractive is deeply tied to how much money you have.
You're still doing it.
Liberals are pro capitalist moron, see Hilary Clinton.
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1 Luna4x0 2018-05-23
Something something bootstraps
It always has been. Nothing new there.
Hillary is a Democrat. I wouldn't say she's a "liberal." Most liberals, going by their legislative efforts, support regulated economic policies. Not quite pure Capitalism. Are Conservatives no longer Pro-Capitalist???
1 ButtsMacGillacuty 2018-05-23
Liberals and Conservatives are the fucking same on economic policy. The only thing that kind of part on is homosexuals. You can't even say Conservatives are racist and Democrats aren't. It's just Conservatives are OVERTLY racist, and Democrats aren't, but still actually racist. WOW, 1 fucking issue they substantially disagree on, and abortion.
1 hara-kiri-enthusiast 2018-05-23
Exactly what I thought. The genders are swapped.
1 Ruby-xy 2018-05-23
She is a comedian, so it is indeed a joke.
1 thehardertruth2000 2018-05-23
Is it a satire? Look at her pointy chin, 5/10 looks, etc. Her lifes work is putting makeup on and doing her hair.
1 pinkgoldrose 2018-05-23
Or open-up your world view and realize that for many people it is that way.
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
You know, if people actually challenged arguments here and didn't just give cheap platitudes, you'd have an easier time of it here.
1 r4risbullshit 2018-05-23
Lol and of course, she downvoted immediately instead of responding. I pulled you up back up.
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
Thanks man. Solidarity.
1 r4risbullshit 2018-05-23
...I can tell you the same thing?
1 pinkgoldrose 2018-05-23
Well yeah same for this place. What I meant is that the world is big enough for there to be
Simultaneously.
1 hugeostrichegg 2018-05-23
Okay. Which is more prevalent?
1 helpppppppppppp 2018-05-23
I could be wrong, but I have a different interpretation of what she’s trying to convey. I believe that in this scenario, the “women’s dating advice” is advice that a woman would give to an unspecified third party, and the “men’s dating advice” is advice that a man would give.
She’s not ironically implying that men have to work harder to date. She’s implying that women give complicated, practical advice, while men give advice that is entitled, overly simplistic, and ultimately unhelpful. It is a joke at men’s expense. But it’s not about the ease/difficulty of dating as determined by gender.
Just a guess, for what that’s worth.
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
But you go to r/AskMen or any advice subs and it's always "hit the gym, wear the best clothes, be confident, etc".
1 helpppppppppppp 2018-05-23
Yeah, I think she’s wrong. I just think that’s what she meant.
1 A1C_SubZero 2018-05-23
They have no self awareness
1 leiphos 2018-05-23
It’s just how everyone feels in our society. The other gender seems like they have it really easy. It’s why guys on here say the same thing as the woman on Twitter. It’s a universal feeling, but it’s not really true for either side, since both sides feel it about the other.
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
It's far easier and requires less effort for a woman to get laid and get dates and so on. So...
1 Kar98kSnipe 2018-05-23
Femoids never were the logical gender
1 RaginAssholeThroaway 2018-05-23
Here is the actual dating advice for women:
Step 1: Take a selfie Step 2: Download tinder and upload the photo Step 3: Have your pick from the hundreds of men you match with and who would be willing to take you out on a date.
That's literally it. Doesn't matter how you look or how much you weigh.
1 based_meme 2018-05-23
No, really. It absolutely DOES NOT MATTER what you look like or how much you weigh, you WILL get plenty of matches.
1 harambeazn 2018-05-23
Thats the true blackpill
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-23
And any fucker who doubts it just create a faie tinder account with pics of a female and see for yourself.
1 Chaomayhem 2018-05-23
I know you guys always say fatcel is Volcel for guys and that is true but an overweight woman doesn't even have to worry about being incel. She will just get less male attention. But she still will get attention.
1 PMmeyourselftopless 2018-05-23
No chicks wants to bang those guys though. Cause there creeps or gross. Or rude. Or assholes.
It’s not that easy for a chick to find a guy she’s into.
1 r4risbullshit 2018-05-23
That's under the assumption that those openers and the users of this community are the same. It's really not. Most people here don't even get a tinder match. Some have even done experiments and were able to have conversations.
But it's not that easy for an actual ugly dude to find a girl that even gives him a chance. She'd be going off of assumptions and immediately writing off the ugly dude based on her bad experiences with other ugly dudes.
1 PMmeyourselftopless 2018-05-23
Dating apps in general only work for like the top 10-20 percent of dudes. It’s ONLY about looks in that arena.
You can be average looking and have zero matches. Absolutely.
1 jacketboundjester 2018-05-23
Awk my heart goes out to them. We can run a fucking benefit concert for the time when dating isn't dead easy for them.
1 randomination 2018-05-23
LOL what is the point of this post? So basically because not all women can get a chad life is harder for them? LMFAO.
If chad sent them those exact messages they'd be fucking soaking. Chad can literally say that he is a Nazi rapist and women will still message him first.
1 leiphos 2018-05-23
It’s not about getting a Chad. It’s about getting someone who doesn’t want to rape you or abuse you or just show up and stick it in you, cum, and leave as quick as possible. That’s appealing for a guy, or some guys, but that’s not what women naturally want. So the abundance of men offering that it like the abundance of women offering friendzones for ugly dudes. It’s ok, but it’s not really why you want, right? That’s how women feel when these guys bombard with their dick pics.
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
Is that so?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/8lln2t/i_did_a_tinder_experiment_about_a_year_ago_before/
1 leiphos 2018-05-23
But isn’t this is the one that was shown to be photoshopped...? There were a few of these going around and they were all shown to be fake.
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
This isn't just one guy and one experiment. Catfishing is a common pastime on this subreddit.
1 mikepencetheincel 2018-05-23
“gross”
Aww poor Stacy :( she has to filter out the subhumans matching her, so much work!
1 PMmeyourselftopless 2018-05-23
The guys who want to have sex with her dog. Gross shit like that.
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-23
Did it ever occur to you that those low-value guys might be on the chicks level? If a woman can only attract creepy, gross, rude, or asshole guys, maybe she deserves a creepy, gross, rude or asshole guy. Maybe she, herself, is a creep, or gross, or rude, or a cunt. Who's to say every woman is better than every suitor that chases her?
Gee, I wonder why! Probably because women's standards have shot out into orbit.
At least they receive anything at all. At least they match with people. That's not pretty bad. What's pretty bad are the screenshots of my Tinder. They look sorta like this, 24/7: https://i.pinimg.com/236x/18/b4/93/18b493204bacbe0c4abd757e8cc0742c--ui-design-error.jpg
1 PMmeyourselftopless 2018-05-23
Tinder isn’t for dudes that aren’t in the top tier of looks.
1 SignorSolitudine 2018-05-23
You don't even have to do that if you don't want to.
You go on Craigslist and you say "woman needs dick, send pictures with face" and it's like the "Heaven on Earth" scene from Rush Hour 2 but from your phone at home
1 cookin_breakfast 2018-05-23
Want a chance at locking down an LTR with a 7+/10? One extra step: don't be a fatty
1 bcat124 2018-05-23
Even that seems like an unfair standard to many women. JFL at human mating dynamics.
1 cool144 2018-05-23
nope. fat girls can get 7/10+
1 changeIsTheWay 2018-05-23
Lol no. You're taking it too far. Do you realize the number of 7+/10s men in the population compared to the number of "just low body fat" people?
1 mikepencetheincel 2018-05-23
How to get chad guide for women: -Have a reasonably low BF% -Be decent at fakeup That’s basically it. This will get you plenty of quality no-ghost matches from chadlites at the very least.
1 changeIsTheWay 2018-05-23
Not to ltr
1 dontcomplain1 2018-05-23
BBW_gaming on suicide watch
1 rest_me123 2018-05-23
Step 3 isn’t even a step to do, it happens on its own.
1 CommunityCollegeHogg 2018-05-23
I love how they act like they're victims.
1 FirstPresentation 2018-05-23
fuck this bitch
1 NewestNightmare 2018-05-23
What planet do these people live on I’m so fucking confused
1 rest_me123 2018-05-23
Venus I guess.
1 DankIncel 2018-05-23
Meanwhile in reality, it is men that end up being Incels and not women.
1 DankIncel 2018-05-23
By "men" she means Chads
1 MgtowEuphoria 2018-05-23
80% of men were considered ugly on OkCupid. That means another sizeable percentage were viewed as "plain" and a minute percentage who are Chads.
That means your average female in 2018 doesn't view 90% of men to be real or human beings.
1 Katiemarie993 2018-05-23
Or that most of the guys using okcupid are just ugly guys...
1 Mr_Breast 2018-05-23
Post an example of what you consider ugly.
1 lonewolf-20000 2018-05-23
yeah. right. the thr fenale counterpart isn't....hmmm...
1 Ploard 2018-05-23
The OkCupid experiment also used pictures of random men on social media, same result.
1 Katiemarie993 2018-05-23
That is very interesting. I agree with the premise of the being attractive makes life easier thing but I don’t think pulling data from some of the dating apps are really the best routes for relationship data. For hookup data sure but not for relationship data. That’s not what those apps are for.
1 circumventthisfgt 2018-05-23
K thanks for stopping in you can go now.
1 Ploard 2018-05-23
Have you ever used OkC? People don't spend hours writing their profile and answering questions just to hook up.
1 Katiemarie993 2018-05-23
Yes and almost everything guys sent me was just about hooking up. And a lot of the girls I know use it for fwb not relationships.
1 Ploard 2018-05-23
Before or after the update of the messaging system? I haven't used it in a while, but I didn't see that many people on there who just wanted to hookup when I used it 1 year ago.
1 Katiemarie993 2018-05-23
I used it about a year ago. I have a different perspective and experience as a female. This was my experience and it’s strictly anecdotal. But I mean it didn’t matter how good looking a guy was. If they messaged me it was to hookup.
1 Ploard 2018-05-23
Well, the girls I know complain more about "all the cringey long ass messages" than hook up requests... so idk...
1 Katiemarie993 2018-05-23
I guess I’m the opposite. But that’s just me. I personally like to know someone a little bit first but all women want different things at different stages
1 Ploard 2018-05-23
They were complaining about the number of those "cringey long ass messages".
1 Katiemarie993 2018-05-23
I mean there is a happy medium isn’t there? Something that isn’t “let’s smash” but isn’t more than a sentence or two to get the conversation started? It’s not all or nothing.
1 baruseu 2018-05-23
When i catfished as an average girl i got like 70% decent first messages, amounting to about 200. To think any girl would complain about that (if i got a single message like the fake profile did) is beyond me.
1 r4risbullshit 2018-05-23
And now you're just proving that looks really matter.
1 Quixificent 2018-05-23
I see a lot of selection biases get ignored.
Only some men use sites like OkCupid and POF. These sites mostly cater to people who are looking for relationships, not hookups. But men who managed to find a partner IRL (the majority of men) don't tend to create OkCupid profiles. So the men on OkCupid and similar sites do not constitute a representative sample of men as a whole. The same goes for women. Like men, only some women create OkCupid profiles -- the ones who didn't find partners IRL. They're not representative of women as a whole. People might also create profiles there because they're in an "open relationship" or polyamorous.
Tinder is the opposite. Tinder mostly caters to hookups, not LTRs. Not all women use Tinder (yes, it's true). The women who use Tinder are not a representative sample. They're women who are looking for hookups, which is not something that all women want -- and even for women who have done it before, the majority (anonymously) report that they didn't enjoy it and wouldn't want to do it again (I can provide references if necessary). The men who use actively/regularly use Tinder aren't representative, either. I could be wrong here, but I think that the majority of men who regularly use Tinder enjoy hookups and are "dominant" (possibly Dark Triad or Tetrad, although I wouldn't know) and rated as highly attractive. I'm not sure how the two are linked, but it's possible that highly attractive men become confident or even overconfident because of the positive feedback. Note that I'm distinguishing here between having a profile that you used for a little while and having a profile that you use all the time.
Another problem with Tinder is that people often don't bother to read the bios, or the super-offensive bios created in the Tinder experiments were taken as jokes (e.g., "I'll ruin your life!"). These are actually just alternative explanations that I've heard other people give. I personally am not sure how Tinder displays, because I've never used it and I don't have a smartphone right now anyway. But even if it displays decent-length bios along with pictures, the point that the bios could have been taken as dark or ironic jokes still remains.
I've heard that some of the frequently cited Tinder and OkCupid experiments were actually the result of the user subbing out something that is funny or not that bad (such a shoplifting candy or whatever) in their original profiles for something horribly offensive (e.g., multiple acts of child molestation and rape). I've also looked at the misogynistic and/or violence-promoting experimental profiles, and the bios were written to such a comical extreme that had I not known, even I would assume the author was joking.
I think that if we really want to validate the these experiments (which, again, don't necessarily reflect most people, so we'd be validating the experiments for those subgroups), we should go further. You (general you) should create a profile with an attractive man and make the original bio offensive and scary. I'm not sure whether there's a way to prove that someone has kept the bio text intact throughout the whole experiment, but if there is, that should be done as well. Then, when women message you, message them back and make sure that, in those messages, you warn them about your history after saying hello, etc. And not just a vague reference to criminal history -- list specific crimes and make it clear that you aren't just messing around. This would be easiest with child molestation, because you'd basically be required to inform the woman right off the bat in case she's around kids a lot. Again, it has to sound serious enough so that the woman realizes that the bio text isn't a joke. Then include screencaps of the women's reactions when you confirm that you're actually a multiply convicted child molester. That would be an unassailable black pill. The current pills are not very potent.
Also, for the sake of thoroughness, the experiment really should include 4 groups:
Attractive men with nice bios Attractive men with scary bios Unattractive men with nice bios (exactly the same bio as for Nice Chad) Unattractive men with scary bios (exactly the same bio as for Dark Chad)
(Should I make this a post? I'm hoping someone with Tinder will actually do it)
1 Ploard 2018-05-23
The OkCupid experiment also used pictures of random men from social media, same result.
1 BLACCEL 2018-05-23
Ahh, now it makes sense. Thank you.
1 chillenyo2 2018-05-23
She just doesnt know it
1 NetscapeNavigator9 2018-05-23
Women’s dating advice is never something like ‘find a guy you like and ask him out’.
It’s always: do nothing and wait for a man to appear and make your life interesting.
They have to make it so hard for themselves.
1 4mags1 2018-05-23
check out this idiot replying to this
this is what he looks like. if you saw this pencil neck on the street you would think that his name would be like ned or ethan.
https://imgur.com/L2FqyYl
1 Toolman890 2018-05-23
lmao all women do is talk shit
1 chillenyo2 2018-05-23
Its their sport
1 futmut 2018-05-23
She is basically reverting the roles...is men that has to do all that shit to get a used up ugly whore😉
1 horribleone 2018-05-23
"go to therapy"
what the fuck does that mean
1 EmbiidistheGOAT 2018-05-23
it's something you should probably do if you frequent this sub lmao
1 incelthrowawayteehee 2018-05-23
Embiid trash
1 300C 2018-05-23
The people who come here to "kick em while they are down" need therapy too. Incels dont really bother anybody. The people who come here to constantly bother them, and give them power, are the real losers. Emotionally mature people dont spend hours online harassing others.
1 r4risbullshit 2018-05-23
You mean people like you?
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-23
Go to a place where you'll spend your money in exchange of a normie's time where you'll tell your problems and he'll try to bluepill you again or turn you into a medicated zombie. In the end therapy doesn't work, years of it won't change your facial bone sctructre.
1 Ryzasu 2018-05-23
This but ironically
1 Kevioli 2018-05-23
you know, women don’t just want to be in a relationship. They want to be in a good relationship which eventually leads to something more. Therefore they are picky, they want the best. A lot of you guys however just want to fuck a chick.
1 Vectoramous 2018-05-23
who gives a shit what women want.
1 Kevioli 2018-05-23
People who want to be with women
1 BuildAChad 2018-05-23
Not Chad.
1 maskedcel 2018-05-23
"I'm so tired of fuccbois" gonna leave that there.
1 Kevioli 2018-05-23
Not like they pretended at least to care about women
1 maskedcel 2018-05-23
The difference? Attractiveness.
You femoids can't even be honest with yourselves about how much this matters.
Incel who wants physical relationships: disgusting.
Chad? You get the point. Shit even in your post just now you defended them: "...yeah, well at least he pretended to care!"
How do you know we don't? Like honestly? Do you know all of us personally?
No.
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-05-23
This shit seriously infuriates me
Does she not get own hypocrisy and lack of self awareness? This has literally nothing to do with misogyny, it's her own fucking contradictory words
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-23
She's trolling.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-23
Well they don't care but still femoids go after them.
1 Idk12344482305 2018-05-23
Yea that selection works amazingly, congratulations.
1 BeatMaleFeminists 2018-05-23
Sounds entitled. Maybe they should stop and ask themselves why they deserve "the best"?
1 Kevioli 2018-05-23
It doesn’t sound entitled at all. You sound entitled: „Why would they choose someone better than me instead of settling with me?“ People wish the best option available. They deserve it because they work for it, as the tweet already said. It’s (y)our duty to become the best available option.
1 BeatMaleFeminists 2018-05-23
I didn't say anything even close to that. "Best", "better", "settling." Your attitudes and way of thinking are emotionally stunted. Good luck forming a happy, stable relationship when you constantly compare your partners to others and wonder if you could "do better."
1 Salusa-Secundus 2018-05-23
Except reality is pretty much the opposite if that tweet. We had a poster here who bragged about being hypergamous and that men were the ones who have to work to prove their were worthy.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-23
Good relationship = relationship with a chiseled Chad.
1 Kevioli 2018-05-23
-> relationships with incels =/= good
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-23
Yes, Einstein it's the reason this community exists. Are you a female?
1 Kevioli 2018-05-23
No. So tell me what your precious community is doing to change that equation?
1 _THE_END_IS_NIGH_ 2018-05-23
We aren't here to change anything as it isn't impossible to change female psychology.
This sub exists because we have given up.
1 Redandwhitedishtowel 2018-05-23
You've completely missed the point of this sub. It is for people who have completely given up and lost all hope of ever being attractive to women.
1 Kevioli 2018-05-23
Why the fuck would you need validation of women? Go and so your own shit. You weren’t born just to fuck some bitches.
1 Redandwhitedishtowel 2018-05-23
Sociation is quite an important contributer to mental health and, whether anyone wants to admit it or not, people don't like to associate with people that are so physically unattractive they barely register on an out of 10 scale. I think you are somewhat mixed up between niceguys and incels. Incels are people who know they have zero prospects of being in a relationship.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-23
Wow you talk like a female. Why should this guys do something to change the equation when they know for sure it's over for them? And why does it bother you? And if you don't like how this community works just leave and never come back, you're being a little bitch coming here by your own choice and complaining that you feel offended by what you read.
1 Kevioli 2018-05-23
Funny because you’re being the one sounding like a butthurt little girl. I‘m not offended, I’m somply trying to understand this group a bit better. No one forces you to talk to me.
1 Mest666 2018-05-23
WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
1 Toodarkalltogether 2018-05-23
I guarantee you, in the history of romantic and sexual relationships between men and women, there has never, ever, been a man who has thought or said
"She's hot and seems nice but she doesn't have any skills, so I dunno..."
No man on earth has ever been attracted to a woman because she juggle or play the fucking tuba. What is this madness.
1 Korangar_Begins 2018-05-23
Maybe not skills, but I've broken up with someone partly because of their lack of hobbies or engaging life outside of work. Boring people are boring
1 jacketboundjester 2018-05-23
And what makes you so exciting?
1 Korangar_Begins 2018-05-23
Playing music, doing science, enjoying cooking, going to gym. Like nothing amazing but it gives topics to talk about. I play shit loads of video games but don't talk about this really unless they do to, bit shit but some people still have a retarded mentality about games being a waste of time (it is I guess but no more than many other hobbies).
The cooking bit seems to have helped most I think
1 jacketboundjester 2018-05-23
So you're a normal person? Again what makes you exciting? At least when I get drunk I'm interesting!
1 Korangar_Begins 2018-05-23
Yeah, nothing special really. You don't have to have some outlandish talent or something to be interesting. I get a bit spectrumy when I talk about things I'm passionate about and some people like that I guess. Showing that you care about things is good.
Ah yes, drugs are always a help for helping things along :D
1 jacketboundjester 2018-05-23
Way to show disrespect to those on the spectrum.
Oh boy sarcasm about my alcohol intake only the sebillionth time I heard that.
If you use phrases like "Fuck the haters" it's safe to assume you are obnoxious.
1 Korangar_Begins 2018-05-23
I'm not being disrespectful. I am diagnosed, I just meant it as when I fail to 'act normal' which I partly always do in many situations.
I was being serious, i think drugs are great as a social lubricant and I use them.
I know, this is what I said. The ones who put up with or accept it have become friends.
1 jacketboundjester 2018-05-23
So being on the spectrum means you aren't normal huh? Good for you.
1 Korangar_Begins 2018-05-23
No but thats what society says a lot. Sorry I was just trying to make a point.
1 jacketboundjester 2018-05-23
So you just go along with society then? Whatever that point was you failed.
1 Korangar_Begins 2018-05-23
It makes life easier for sure
1 DoobiousSoul 2018-05-23
Are you saying being autistic doesn’t necessarily make you weird, or that being weird doesn’t necessarily mean you’re autistic?
1 jacketboundjester 2018-05-23
Let'sgo with option 2.
1 Smkeybare555 2018-05-23
I agree. I’ve stopped hanging out with cute girls before because they have no life goals, skills, or ambitions, just sleep in and party.
1 dontcomplain1 2018-05-23
???
1 rileymils 2018-05-23
Projecting.
1 rileymils 2018-05-23
https://i.imgur.com/AGDGGRp.png
LMAO black guy is going off on this land whale, and some white knight cuck comes in to defend her. Funny thing is I guarantee the black guy gets laid more than the white knight whale defender.
1 throwaway43503460340 2018-05-23
Like clockwork
1 rileymils 2018-05-23
I've always wondered why so many women love saying this.
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-05-23
They love to emasculate and belittle men because they absolutely despise weak men
1 rileymils 2018-05-23
Yet they complain about toxic masculinity, when they are the ones perpetuating it.
1 lemonman456 2018-05-23
The only toxic masculinity is fragile masculinity.
1 hidden_penguin 2018-05-23
I'd buy that guy a beer.
1 Hal_Inceldenza 2018-05-23
Black guys are based as fuck. They have POC privilege and they always use it to shut down SJWhales.
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-05-23
?????
It's literally the other way around. Is she memeing?
1 r4risbullshit 2018-05-23
If there's anyone putting women on a pedestal, it's these fuckers.
1 Anon-Kundere 2018-05-23
But it works both ways, it's called self-improvement
1 Luna_Tuna_456 2018-05-23
Sure, but it is more often applied to males, as females are the "gate-keepers" to sex.
Simple biological fact based on the logistics for reproduction for both genders.
Men will be more likely to work to obtain optimum body aesthetics to appeal to the opposite gender.
And more likely to strive for status and social clout (via profession, social behavior, or skill to get you famous, art/music or sports for example).
This is pretty consistent with theory about human sex behavior theories regarding mate selection and game theory.
1 changeIsTheWay 2018-05-23
Low IQ twitter poster.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-23
This, but with the genders reversed. There are thousands of single guys who would gladly date this whore, but she haves no eyes for them and wants a chad who is ok with the idea of settling down. Disgusting as a female can be.
1 niveasoftt 2018-05-23
Holy shit found u/pinkgoldrose on twitter
1 niveasoftt 2018-05-23
Everything a woman ever says that they think is unabashedly right only applies to Chad. Men are paid more? Only Chad is. Men have it easy in dating? Only Chad. Men think they are entitled? Yeah only Chads do because women let them feel that way by praising them every way they can.
1 zZacharyChad 2018-05-23
What a crock, all they need to do is not overeat and just show up lol, fuck outta here.
1 MansplainingisaCrime 2018-05-23
People: No wonder you can't get laid if you spend your days on incel message boards instead of improving yourself.
The same people: Spend their days beefing on Twitter, complaining about unachievable female beauty standards
1 trevmon2 2018-05-23
other way around
1 GreatAmericaTrump 2018-05-23
Seriously, how is this possible? Do women just lack empathy or something, how is it possible to be so disconnected from reality?
1 minoxidilcel 2018-05-23
im starting to be convinced that women being the "empathetic gender" is just a meme.
1 AntiAbleism 2018-05-23
Women and soyboys have no empathy for ugly socially awkward men.
1 TurboTrashman 2018-05-23
Does she have dyslexia?
1 DarkCels 2018-05-23
this is maybe the most retarded thing i have ever seen
1 welfareleechandproud 2018-05-23
What the fuck? These women aren't living in reality.
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-23
Oh I get it: she has dyslexia.