If you're homeless it means your a bad person. One time I a homeless guy called me a cunt for not giving him change. That's why homeless people are homeless they're just assholes.

How does mental health issues factor into your analysis of homeless people?

I actually do hate the poor and homeless the same way I hate Incels

You are not entitled to a fucking house

The fact that our pathetic society is now this- mommy government needs to give you a house and a fucking girlfriend

Idiocy

Lmao did you actually imply that being nicer is better for keeping your house? The things you say aren't things real people say man. You clearly haven't grasped the essence of homelessness in the sense that its a combination of losing a job and or having bad luck in life. You don't just lose a house for not being nice. Fuck man how 2 Dimensional do you think.

Imagine being this low iq

What do you mean? There's tons of reasons end up in a financially unstable place without being an asshole. Like lending money to family, injury, obviously mental health problems play into homelessness, and to some extent incel life. But I generally thought this sub focused on unattractive people, with bad personalities DUE to their unattractive appearance. I think a victim complex is likely the biggest mental problem on the internet/this sub, Lately. And I never really liked the whole "look at how dumb this guy is for having a differn t optional, imma just agree with the majority and sit back on my high horse". C'mon bud

I actually have an IQ of 160 goml bro

Damn and you couldn't figure out this post is satire? I guess Einstein was right about iq

You're just mad I have a higher IQ than you. 1v1 me on OSRS if you really want to settle this debate like men

Lmao

Are you scared?? You know deep down that your inferior mind is no match for me. Stop being a beta cuck and let's have it

Oh I'm terrified

You do realise this guy has a 2 maxed out accounts, you gotta be crazy to take this guy on

My surgery money is on the line, what choice do I have

Whoosh!

Lmao did you actually imply that being nicer is better for getting a girlfriend? The things you say aren't things real people say man. You clearly haven't grasped the essence of inceldom in the sense that its a combination of being unattractive and or having bad luck in life. You don't just remain single for not being nice. Fuck man how 2 Dimensional do you think.

LMAOOOOO

These homeless people think they are entitled for a builder to build them a home. The builder has bodily autonomy and should not be forced to build homes for those he does not want to.

Poor people are not entitled to shit

Late stager bullshit at fine display

Incels demanding handouts

Garbage in garbage out

You are failures because of you

I said they aren't entitled to shit. Who knew that soy caused illetracy

You are poor because you are a failure

You are a cuck because you're a white knight

Just pay your mortgage bro

dude just get a job what's the problem lmao? My dad hired me when I was 18 and now I'm on 100k a year

Just have a rich dad bro

Fuck this meme

You are poor because you are a failure

Poor bait.

Just have your parents pay your rent bro. That's why I did.

Watch HGTV to understand home ownership.

Here's the difference:

Without sex, you aren't forced to surrender to the brute forces of nature, rain, heat, hail, snow, thunderstorms et cetera. Without a shelter, you are

Just live in the subway station bro

Here's the difference:

Without a home, you aren't forced to surrender to the brute forces of loneliness/social isolation, mockery, being seen as a subhuman, and dying alone. Without sex, you are.

You can have friends as an ugly person. Surround yourself with people who you are friends with and you won't be alone. Looks are a part of dating but not a part of friendship. If you can't find a friend then you have a genuinely bad personality.

I never said you can't have friends. But it seriously limits the way you can relate to your friends. Once you get to a certain age, nearly every guy your age is in a relationship. This makes it extremely difficult to get really close to them.

What married father of 2 wants to be best friends with an incel? What guy with a serious girlfriend is going to be able to spend time one-on-one with an incel? How is an incel going to spend time around a guy and his girlfriend/wife and possibly kids and things won't be awkward?

Just don't bring it up and talk about other things. Videogames music tv anything.

That's an acquaintance, not a friend.

If they have an SO, you're either not going to be seeing much of them, or you'll have to be the awkward 3rd person during any get together.

I have plenty of friends with SO and they don't spend every waking moment with them. They are still their own person.

Without sex we are forced to surrender to the brutal force of depression and loneliness.

Without sex, we are forced to surrender to the brute forces of lifelong psychological, emotional, and physiological damage that being Forever alone, forced incelibate, and socially invalidated thrusts upon us.

Shelter keeps people from starving and freezing to death but go off I guess.

I see lots of homeless people. They live just fine. You don't "need" a home to survive. You're just too entitled to improve yourself.

How the fuck does shelter keep people from starving?

Never knew i could eat shelter🙄🙄 but be a fucking retard I guess

Most of the homeless men I see are pretty much incels.

Just stop thinking about looking for a home and they will get a home!

Yeah, someday a home will find them! But if they're desperate to get a home, the home will pick up on it and not want the homeless person in it.

Ok but homeless people actually need to take more showers. Then they'd have a home.

Love this Catch-22.

This is the most retarded post in this sub's history

I see poor people who manage to get homes all the time. What's YOUR excuse?

They wouldn't be homeless if they showered three times a day.

...They do need to shower...

They wouldn’t be homeless if they got a fucking JOB

Like what you need

Thing is, a house is a thing to give someone. Sex is an activity between two willing partners. The woman needs to be willing to have sex with you and want to do so, otherwise it’s just rape.

Thing is, House has to be given willingly​ otherwise it's home invasion.

But the house isn’t a physically invasive and usually very intimate act. Sure there can be a lot of emotion wrapped up in the house. But it’s just a house. Sex is a lot more and you know it. When you say things like this women hear that to you women aren’t people and are more like objects.

Nobody cares what wamen think. What you are saying is Stealing is ok because it's not sex. There are plenty of Women who would have sex with random guys if they promised them house.

Women treat us worse than objects, they have too many rights.

Fell off my chair.

GOT EM exdeeeee

They should just take a shower and get a haircut and there will be jobs left and right

". Just watch movies in which people have home..... "

Despite your sarcasm, no one is entitled to a house, you don't need a house to live, and perhaps some aspect of a homeless person's personality led them to be homeless (work ethic, addictive personality, social recluse, etc.)

Why do social recluses deserve to be homeless? How is that a bad characteristic?

They don't deserve it (when did in say deserve?), it is just a result. A good social network can prevent someone from being homeless. Granted that is only one factor. All I'm saying is that personality traits (and thus, personality) can play a role in their homelessness.

it is just a result. A good social network can prevent someone from being homeless.

Fair enough.

This is absurd. The average life expectancy of homeless people in Australia and the UK is between 43 and 47 years, 39 years in Canada, and between 42 and 52 years in the US. In Western nations, homeless people are up to 40 times more likely than the general population to contract tuberculosis. There's even research which indicates that homeless women in the US are between 4 and 30 times more likely to die prematurely when compared with the general population of American women. It goes on and on.

In addition to that, there are all sorts of laws against vagrancy and loitering (these vary depending on where in the world you are), so that the freedom of mobility of homeless people is affected in a way that people with homes don't have to worry about. There are plenty of other things to, if you just think about it for five seconds you will be able to imagine some of them. Homeless people don't, for example, have the freedom to take their clothes off and walk around their house or, at the very least, their room naked. Homeless people have no place to store their food, they can't have a shower whenever they want, they can't accumulate many possessions (for fear of having their things stolen, and so on), etc. They're also more vulnerable to random acts of criminal violence.

How is not having a girlfriend or being able to find somebody who is willing to have sex with you even remotely comparable to any of that? Your freedom, physical health, and safety isn't being undermined as a result of you not having sex or having a girlfriend (except, of course, to the extent that you're not free to rape women, because this is an infringement upon the freedom of the women). But your freedom, physical health and safety are greatly compromised if you are homeless.

I literally can't believe what I'm reading, it genuinely defies credulity. I actually don't completely know if this post is meant to be serious or if it's supposed to be some kind of ironic, postmodern satire.

I bet lonely virgin men also area around the average life expectancy of 40-50. I hope anyone can find a source. It's on the same scale of Maslow's hierarchy for a reason.

So you're trying to say you're entitled to things if lacking them meant it would "undermine your freedom, health and safety"? Is that what you're saying? That's your argument?

Firstly, I never actually said that people are entitled to things if lacking them undermines their freedom, health and safety. What I argued, specifically, is that not having a home is not comparable to not having a girlfriend in terms of the kind and degree of harm which is thereby suffered. In other words, you're having a bit of a Cathy Newman moment.

Having said that, however, I do happen to think that you are entitled to things if lacking them undermines your freedom, health and safety, insofar as they are things that other people could provide you with without similarly risking their own freedom, health and safety. If a child is drowning in a body of shallow water and you stand there and let them die simply because you don't want to get your shoes wet, you have murdered the child by the omission of an act. You're responsible for the foreseen consequences of your choices. Whether the choice is to omit an act or to commit doesn't seem relevant.

Have any of you payed attention in a economics class? The first things I learn't were people's needs and wants.

Needs: Air, Food, Water and Shelter.

Wants: Literally everything else(including sex).

You don't need sex to live, but you do need shelter, whether it be a bus stop, under a bridge or a apartment.

whether it be a bus stop, under a bridge or a apartment.

So you're saying homelessness isn't a real problem because they can just live under a bridge?

Are you saying not having sex is a problem because you can just deal with it.

bro

Shelter can be a sleeping bag in a street

It's almost like I said this in my comment.

If you said it in your comment then you haven't made any points.

You could hit the Olympics if you stretched as much as your logic.

You need to watch some movies about homeowners bro

strong independent home-owning leads lmao

You don't need a house to live.

true

You don't need a house to live.

true also

Maybe if homeless people sought mental help, they could finally get a house and a job etc.?

Y’all really out here shitting on homeless people who couldn’t catch a break or ran into hard times because nobody would touch any of you with a 10 foot pole?

There’s definitely something that all of you could do that would make everyone happy.

"""""y'all"""""

"boo-hoo, i'm a virgin that's just as bad as not being able to afford food, sleeping in an alleyway and probably dying in the winter" And yeah, i know "get off our sub normie REEEE i have autism"

Maybe they should build themselves a home

Lol this is so stupid. Being homeless and not being able to get paid are completely different things

Of course not, but you work your ass off throughout life to get a good job, good money and to be able to afford things like a house. They're long terms goals which you work for. Getting laid isn't a life long objective needed to live comfortably.

I don't have to. You've got a bit of a fucked up mindset if you're genuinely comparing the two

Would you rather be jobless and homeless with consistent sex or have a nice home and somewhere nice to sleep and not have sex? I'd defo choose the latter.

No girl is entitled to bang you, nor is anyone entitled a house. But what's your point?

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Of course not, but you work your ass off throughout life to get a good job, good money and to be able to afford things like a house.

Yeah, and yet you can't work for sex, there is nothing you can do, you are just fucked if you don't have looks...

No you're not. Looks isn't everything at all. Looks dad's but personality lasts forever (Mostly). I know many people considered ugly and unfortunate but are liked by many people and are really popular because they're just such lovely people! And I've known many ugly people get hot girlfriends. You clearly are just being nice for sex and nothing more. Because if you were genuinely nice, and not creepy and too forward to quickly.

People who think looks are everything are typically the dickheads that get shit relationships and wonder why nothing ever works out.

Looks isn't everything at all

No but it's the most important and without it women won't give you a moment of time.

You clearly are just being nice for sex and nothing more. Because if you were genuinely nice, and not creepy and too forward to quickly.

Nope, I get rejected before even acting nice.

People who think looks are everything are typically the dickheads that get shit relationships and wonder why nothing ever works out.

Probably because they have had bad enough looks to know that looks are the most important thing.

Its most definitely not the most important. Maybe if you plan on shagging a girl on a 1 night stand, but if you see the girl every day then you have a chance to show her what a nice guy you may be, as long as it's genuine kindness. And even then, there's no obligation for her to have sex with you. So if she doesn't, tough shit, move on. But hey, you're a nice girl so there's no reason you can't maintain a friendship.

By you saying that, it sounds like you're just throwing yourself on the girl before she has a chance to learn your name. Maybe you're approaching them wrong? Don't expect anything you won't feel hurt. Just go with the flow and if it doesn't work, move along.

I can think of so many real life examples that disprove that point. Like I said, people who purely go for looks tend to have the worst relationship. I'd much rather have a less attractive, but genuinely nice, carding person to go outnwith rather than some hot bitch. Straight up

but if you see the girl every day then you have a chance to show her what a nice guy you may be, as long as it's genuine kindness. And even then, there's no obligation for her to have sex with you. So if she doesn't, tough shit, move on. But hey, you're a nice girl so there's no reason you can't maintain a friendship.

We aren't going to be seeing the same girl everyday, what about the guys who don't work somewhere that's overflowing with women? And no, validating an entitled cunt is not something worth while.

By you saying that, it sounds like you're just throwing yourself on the girl before she has a chance to learn your name. Maybe you're approaching them wrong? Don't expect anything you won't feel hurt. Just go with the flow and if it doesn't work, move along.

Well I have to throw myself at women like that, they won't talk to me at all otherwise. I already just expect rejection. If I go with the flow I'm not going to meet anybody.

I can think of so many real life examples that disprove that point.

So anecdotal evidence beats scientific evidence?

Houses can tell if you complain about being homeless to your in-group. Just get out there and stop being hateful, and maybe you'll get a home, bruh!

I feel. All they are incels

I knew a guy who was homeless and mentally ill. He knew he wasn't entitled to housing, that's why he got up, got a job, shaved, showered, and now he lives in an apartment he shares with 6 other people. Now he's not homeless like you loser! Maybe if you got off your fucking ass and found work, you wouldn't be spending your days sleeping on pavement? You're not entitled to a fucking house! You expect taxpayers to just walk over and help you find housing? Give me a fucking break! You need to try and focus on improving YOURSELF before you think you deserve housing!

Boi, shelter is one of life's most basic requirements. Dying of exposure under a bridge is a sign of not having adequate shelter.

Top tier thread. Normies BTFO and flailing angrily.

To people who rebuke Maslow with "sex isn't required to live" -- neither is shelter. Homeless folk are proof of that.

NOT HAVING A HOUSE ISNT THE SAME AS NOT SHOVING YOUR DICK IN A WOMAN

Yea, im not, we aint even entitled to life but we got it. I also happened to get a house, im lucky, never had a girl, but im alive fed clothed i have a house and internet and a laptop and a phone and a free education. Im very lucky, and so are all of you, i dont complain and hate women because ive never had one.

Homeless people can get a job.

LMAOOOO JUST REPLACE HOUSE WITH WOMAN, HOMELESS WITH INCRLS AND THERE YA GO

I'm not an incel so they can't paint you guys all bad for this but I couldn't give a runny shut about homeless people.

It's impossible to starve in America. You don't need a house to live, and if you REALLY wanted 3hots and a cot, go get arrested. They have medical care in prison too.

"Just get a job and get a place of your own, bro! Also, just stop using dem drugs, brah!"

you’re just a cunt

Actually shelter is considered one of the basic human needs. Also, home is where you make it.

Not having a house means not having a bed to sleep on,being more susceptible to the elements and possible physical injury,most likely not having cable to kick back and forget your everyday life or internet to talk to like minded people.

Not having sex is....well just that. Come on guys, don't go there.

You can have friends as an ugly person. Surround yourself with people who you are friends with and you won't be alone. Looks are a part of dating but not a part of friendship. If you can't find a friend then you have a genuinely bad personality.

whether it be a bus stop, under a bridge or a apartment.

Lmao

Maybe they should build themselves a home

They don't deserve it (when did in say deserve?), it is just a result. A good social network can prevent someone from being homeless. Granted that is only one factor. All I'm saying is that personality traits (and thus, personality) can play a role in their homelessness.