lol nice

8 mods and none of them gave a shit about the creator of their sub

Dark times indeed

Why did you left us with board_gaming as the head mod? Anyways, just utilize the sub you created as the only coping mechanism you have left. CBT is useless, as the therapists there aren't interested in hearing your problems. It's either that or meds to control your emotions. Anyways, if it makes you feel any better, I am a 5'3" man who has been a long time incel. Don't fret, you can always cope here with us.

That is what happens when you leave us with a female head mod. If you wanted our respect, you wouldn't have done that. Anyways, the only thing I appreciate from you is that you created this alternative sub from r/incels. Thank you for creating this sub.

XD

he's the first incel whose shitty personality is without a doubt the reason for his inceldom

Not a better personality than the person who mocks the guy who fucking created this sub they use every day.

Come on man don't be a cunt.

Congrats you killed someone.

Don't say that.

He knew what he was doing.

Board_gaming is right, you know?

It's just disgusting how you talked to someone on the verge of killing himself. Inceltears behavior.

You fuck u laughed at his face when he's about to die. Have some respect.

Famous last words

Fuck you.

Why? What triggered you?

You’re just laughing at a guy’s fucking suicide note

Read my first comment

u/Salvador66 what you do if you knew that a guy probably suicided because of you

Complain that he was short, of course.

I didn't cause his suicide. It's not my fault that his last comment was directed at me.

Yay me.

I got attention. Time to fish for more.

Make it about himself, given his track record.

Look I just dont understand how I am being blamed. I just asked him a polite question at the beginning.

And then you went on to basically “Anyways I’m short and no one can get worse than me”

OP: “this is probably my last post. I’m gonna kill myself”.

Salvador: “if you wanted respect, you wouldn’t have made what you thought the best decision at the time”.

OP: “please keep this at the top of the sub I created, I’m gonna suicide soon”.

Salvador: “I’m short but women say I’m pretty. Say, have you seen my selfies today?”.

That is what happens when you leave us with a female head mod. If you wanted our respect, you wouldn't have done that.

Go.

Fuck.

Yourself.

He’s talking to the creator of the sub he uses to draw attention to himself every single day.

And he can’t even show the tiniest bit of respect.

At the risk of drifting off into armchair psychology, his obvious narcissism probably prevented him from doing that.

You're a fucking attention whoring leech. Somebody needs to ban your fucking ass ASAP from this sub.

“a guy”

This is the creator of Braincels we are talking about. Not just some random guy,

You right you right.

Pushing the blame on Salvador isn't going to solve anything though

He also gave the sub to board_gaming. That is as close to incel Hitler as it gets.

lol

This comment hits me the hardest. I am sorry, brother. You deserved better.

Thank you u/GeneticCleansing for noticing our founder's thread.

It is sad that attention whoring femoid users gets like 100 comments and 50 replies from incels after posting in this sub, but our OG leader was brutally forgotten. It proves that we aren't really different from the female-worshipping cucks known as IT numales.

But thank you tho. You are different, and I really respect that :)

I agree. It sickens me that AA died thinking that nobody in his own sub cared (except those who wanted to troll him).

Fuck. Bro I am literally crying. No joke.

u/AnathematicAnarchist if you are reading this. I love you man. Femoids and normies are assholes. We don't really have anyone. WE are incels, but we have each other. Look bro this community, although truthful, has a lot of toxicity. The toxiccels are retarded.

But Me and a bunch of other rationalCels are truly sorry that we didn't see this. You created a wonderful platform for us to spread funny memes and dark humor posts. Thank you. If you are still alive, please talk with us. We want to listen :'(

I agree. I really hope he is alive and just taking a well deserved break from Reddit

He’s probably taking a break.

He seems angry no one read his thread. That indicates he wanted help more than to actually end his life. I doubt he has killed him self and is either in psychiatric care or simply taking a break from the internet.

If he does read any of this, I would seriously recommend buying a physical second hand copy of the power of now and reading at least the first chapter. Please don’t just write this off as some bullshit, I’m no normie. But the first chapter immediately deals with this idea of wanting to kill your self and how to change that. No patronising shit, no fake cures. Simply a coping mechanism that can be the first step to removing this feeling if that is what you truly desire, even for good.

If you are alive and read this, please try it. Good luck.

if you are reading this. I love you man. Femoids and normies are assholes.

"Femoid" doesn't sound very nice - it sounds like you don't like women that much anymore... does that make your celibacy at least half voluntary then?

Also since you love OP man and disregard femoids, maybe you could try to get a date with him and then you wouldn't be incel anymore? As long as he shared your passions for other incels over femoids of course.

It makes me angry that a fellow incel, someone who AnathematicAnarchist worked day in day out to help through his moderation of the sub, could kick him at his lowest point.

How can we honestly blame IT for this when we are just as bad?

I agree. It sickens me that AA died thinking that nobody in his own sub cared

Maybe incels aren't the nicest community in the world after all? He created a sub for a bunch of depressed self hating fuggos (their own assessment!) and was surprised he didn't receive love and sunshine? Well I'm not shrug

r/IncelTears bullied him more than any incel ever could have.

Well that's what Inceltears do, it's in the name. I didn't say he should've gone looking for sympathy from Inceltears either did I?

He didn't get any sympathy from ANYONE except incels.

It is true that many incels hated him for his actions, but there is literally NO normie who gave a single shit about him.

He could've gone to some kinda depression or suicide help group (incl. online) and if he didn't start ranting about femoids he wouldn't get rejected most likely.

Wait, where did AA rant about femoids?

I've no idea what he did lmao, but if you go to some normal mental support group and don't distinguish yourself as some kinda asshole or nazi or whatever, why would he've gotten rejected and refused support?

It is sad that attention whoring femoid users gets like 100 comments and 50 replies from incels after posting in this sub, but our OG leader was brutally forgotten. It proves that we aren't really different from the female-worshipping cucks known as IT numales.

HQ females are of great worth to a tribe; LQ male incels are not. It's just natural instincts, completely alright.

Every man that isn't MGTOW is more or less the same. Feels bad that he's done this though.

Shit I'm not even subbed and I feel bad.

I'm not even an incel and I feel bad. My condolences to you guys.

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When you get MOG'd by your own sub!

If that isn't proof that my life is utterly devoid of any value or worth, I don't know what is.

It's proof that the community you created is worthless, not that you are worthless.

Think about why you want to be part of the system before you go. This is your big mistake. You hate the system but you want to be part of the system and go to a modern day concentration camp full of feminist nurses that want to drug you and delude you? You should have resisted this false idea. And stop fucking whining about needing love and support. Nobody cares about you. Nobody. You need to be good looking. That's it. No love is needed in life, that's a false idea. Only face is needed. Love is overrated.

The same stupid fucking joke is at the top of the sub THREE TIMES and yet my goddamn suicide note, as the creator of the community, isn't even going to get noticed.

Oh no one one gave you attention. Tee hee.

Fuck you, i have no respect for you, you cunt

go suck a dick

st.blackops2cel revokes his blessings

https://youtu.be/G1b6XkwjaM0

CMon suicide is never the answer. I know things can be hard sometimes but theres people like me who understand and are there for you.

All they care about is money, it's a sad fact of life.

As a male, you're expected to help yourself, no one's going to come save you. I know it's unfortunate, but it's true. One thing I thought women were good for besides sex - emotional support, incel tears showed me wasn't the case.

I'm sorry you feel this way man, and I'm sorry there isn't anything any of us can do for you. I do hope you find your peace, however. And what ever you choose, I respect your decision.

Just know this, suicide is what they want you to do. Suicide give them that satisfaction, that they pushed you over the edge, and you were weak. So I ask you, are you really willing to give them that satisfaction, Or are you going to stay and fight?

Whatever you choose, I wish you nothing but the best. Just be sure this is truly what you want, to let them win.

you being a big ass bitch is responsible for your death

This is a fucking suicide note from the guy who created the sub you use every day

and you respond like this?

I don't agree with what he said, but shut up you whore. You're the one who should have died, not our beloved founder.

I don’t disagree.

Beloved? Doesn't seem so.

One person doesn't matter to society ,we are nothing but peons to them. Too many pleople in the world for them to care about one person. But I'd say tell your parents ,sounds like you are young. I know I've been through the hospitals and even called suicide hotlines,I've spilled my life and feelings on the internet,nobody cared ,and I'm still here. I'd say chase money also because money is power ,and I don't even have money. And keep going to the hospitals even if you annoy them. Fuck everyone

The system is fucked, but ending your life won't accomplish anything dude. It's time to let go of romantic love, discover equanimity, and practice meditation.

Incels can help change society for the better. We can end the obsession with romantic love, emforce monogamy and put women back in the kitchen.

And you wonder why you’re an incel.

FUCK OFF

Have you talked to your family abt your issues?

He's dead m8.

nah m8 ya gotta keep some hope.

probably talking to his great great grandfather right now.

Dont let the cunts win! Let every breath you take be an act of spite.

low iq post tbh

Really dude? This guy could’ve committed suicide and you respond by mocking him...

this sub since day one has just been making fun of people and telling them to kill themselves, y’all can’t act high and mighty now lmao

I’m not even a fucking incel dumbass

You are honestly disgusting.

it’s not really unknown that this sub, and incels in general are pretty toxic, no way around that

And this is relevant to AA fucking offing himself how, you actual piece of shit?

Pointing out the hypocrisy my man, you don't even know if he actually offed himself

Disgusting. Banned.

Go fall in a pit

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Become muslim

I've read that for some people, attempting suicide and being institutionalized helped them a lot because they were able to get the help that they needed.

Fuck man I hope you're alive. I wish I had seen this sooner.

Yeah, American society is cancer.

LMAO well this made my night. He actually blames others instead of taking responsibility for his own actions. It’s not societies fault he failed, it’s his fault for not putting forth the effort to do anything about it. Natural selection IMO.

Fuck America

You’re still ugly in every other country in the world lol

But feel free to move to japan and be rejected there too

The worst part is it convinces other countries that its a good thing and they adopt the framework

I saw a burger King in the old country and I wanted to burn it down lol

Not sure why downvoted but it’s true.

Not sure why downvoted but it’s true.

You guys would still get bullied in the EU, don't worry

Versus what? Every Incel, SJW and other group that revolves their lives around constantly blaming their problems on outside forces claims we need to "overthrow" this societal framework but can't actually point to any better alternatives. Why are people from almost everywhere on earth risking death and leaving everything behind to get to the USA?

All of these movements attract eternal losers because they convince them that none of their failings are their fault at all, it's society's fault. Incels are startling similar to the feminist lunatics and extreme leftists that have caused some of the actual decay to the family unit that Incels could legitimately complain about.

No

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How did I miss this thread. Sorry man :(

Unfortunately, he was mocked in the comments by the incels who saw him.

In his dying breath, he was being mocked by the people who he created a home for.

It’s almost as if the toxicity you guys pedal is... gasp.... unhealthy....

That is what pisses me off the most. I never wanted board gaming to be a mod. But I never ever gave him shit for it. It was his decision to make and even though I disagree strongly I still thought he was a cool dude. Imagine getting shit on by the members of the subreddit you created. Not only did he get shit from inceltears when he was unwell and other times. He got shit on here so much as well. I sure hope he isn't dead, This is actually too fucking cruel.

You can disagree with his decisions as a mod, I’m sure everyone has a quarrel with something that a mod has done.

But that’s part of life. It doesn’t take away from all the good contributions he has made to the sub, nor does it take away from his genuinely good nature. And it upsets me that he may have died thinking nobody in his own sub cared.

It is such a sad situation.

I have just found this thread by looking at the post history of u/AnathematicAnarchist.

By the looks of it, He has likely committed suicide 10 days ago. It greatly depresses me that his last words could very possible have been:

Edit2: Please don't let this fucking thread go unnoticed. I created this fucking sub, I deserve better than this.

If you have actually done it, then I am sincerely sorry. I could have done much more to help you than I did. I am sorry for the lack of support systems.

You have created a fantastic sub that I am honored to be able to moderate. If you are still alive - and I hope that you are - then please PM me and talk to me.

Holy shit. That. That is sad.

Rest in peace, u/AnathematicAnarchist

It's sad that he died, but I think you guys are remembering him with rose-tinted glasses. Remember, he didn't really care about our community

Rest in peace brother. Thank you for creating this sub.

He deserved better than for people to mock and insult him and refuse him support when he really needed it.

He deserved better than for people to mock and insult him and refuse him support when he really needed it

I seem to remember a man who took over our single online refuge and decided that it would be better as the seed of a communist revolution than a space for incels. His goal was the maximum number of eyes on this board, which meant allowing the place to be used as a hunting ground for bullying vulnerable members of our community - anyone could come here and harass someone who was having a hard time and AA would allow that to happen because it was great entertainment value for the normies and meant more of them would swarm in to have their fun, increasing his userbase.

What exactly did he build? The community existed before he came along, he just happened to be in the right place when /r/incels was banned. Look through his submission history for the memes he posted - does he really seem like a man with a finger to the pulse of this community? Did he actually contribute anything?

Look through his submission history for the memes he posted - does he really seem like a man with a finger to the pulse of this community? Did he ever have a genuine connection with this place? Did he ever organize community events or lead topical discussions or actually contribute anything to the culture of this sub? No.

This right here. It just always felt like he was never one of us.

God speed to his safety.

You're wrong. AA sure is a fan of marxism, so what? Marxism-rodgerism ftw. It's just political fun.

Also, I went through his history, and found none of what you descrive. As a matter of fact, it was literally the OPPOSITE. He was worried in the very beginning that the influx of normies would hurt braincels. He tried not to abuse the banhammer, but never ever did he enjoy the bullying of icnels for the sake of popularity.

While I welcome the fact that there are more threads and more users, of course, I think it's important to keep in mind that this is not a shitposting sub.

From one of is first threads. He has greatly contributed to braincels. He made the stickied creative writing thread that was tons of fun. Made tons of threads to follow braincels' progression. His memes were light and harmless. He kept in constant contact with the mods, added more. Helped braincels grow. He went multiple times on IT to defend this sub and got downvoted to oblivion each time. Got insulted, harassed over and over, but always came back from it. He wanted this sub to grow with good quality for us, for the incels in it to feel good.

You're trying to make him seem like a selfish fame hunter when he is the opposite. He gave months of work and promotion and discussions about the rules and mods of this sub to make sure we all had a good time here. Then he stepped down voluntarily and gave us everything he worked for and promoted for free. Your portrayal of him is slanderous and disgusts me. He was obviously not NT but he was always a good guy. He deserves better than this.

Mate, ask yourself why he didn't stop users flooding into this subreddit from elsewhere and bullying our users. Why, as the head moderator of this community, did he not remove the people who came from a subreddit dedicated to mocking us? People who posted here in such huge numbers that every single thread was full of their nasty comments?

Here's a clue:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/839hiv/11000_subscribers_heres_a_love_song_from/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/823t7y/2018_footage_of_reddit_normies_attempting_to_shut/?st=jhukmrmh&sh=a41fb9ff
https://old.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/84y9ll/babenet_when_rbraincels_reaches_12000_subs/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/7sglyx/in_honor_of_us_reaching_5000_subscribers_the/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/7qex82/me_when_rbraincels_reaches_4000_subscribers/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/7nherb/inceltears_cringeanarchy_sadcringe_and/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/7l3161/sadcringe_cringeanarchy_and_inceltears_when/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/7k13fi/staff_meme_inceltears_when_rbraincels_reaches/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/7cyh0f/staff_meme_inceltears_reaction_when_rbraincels/

WTF

He was happy that braincels was getting more users. He was happy that he created a space for us to enjoy ourselves, and celebrated our milestones.

You know what's really ironic? The last meme he posted to celebrate the 11k subs milestone is the song "Don't bother me".

He always banned harassers and abusers, he set up multiple rules to protect incels in here. You're lying and can't provide any proof.

He gave months of his work and promotion to us for free, he even stepped down as mod and gave us the entire sub for ourselves.

He always banned harassers and abusers

Literally a lie

RIP /u/AnathematicAnarchist. Nechayev did nothing wrong.

He didn’t win very many political points because

1) he’s a Manchurian Candidate 2) he put bbwgaming as a mod 2) fought with incels 3) applied rules inconsistently

This is a guy’s fucking suicide note. You should show him some respect regardless of whether you disagree with him or not.

You wanted his sub dead, you hypocrite.

I regret saying that.

I said it impulsively, without any regard to consequences or who I might hurt.

I was an idiot.

XD Nice try, Evilmortybot.

Do him and all of us a favour then. Leave and don't come back.

im hoping he checked into a physc ward. ive gone, if you go with an open mind they can be helpful. i also sent my friend to one via the police and hes doing better. i dont agree w/incel bullshit but I also dont agree w/sui

no fuck that they just made my problems worse, got a 6k bill in the mail with insurance

Rest In Piss

I’m so sad that Elliot Rodgers in the making killed himself

Fuck you

Oh sorry, I meant to say I’m extremely sad about this and I’m gonna go cry in the corner now as if I lost a member of my family.

This guy created this sub

Millions kill themselves everyday, but apparently because this guy “created” this sub I’m supposed to care despite the fact that he’s advocating for some sort of incel revolution whatever the fuck that means.

He created a fucking suicide note

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Um blow me loser

How the fuck did we miss this.

Should you have gone through with this, the only thing I can do is apologize for leaving you to your own devices in a time where you obviously needed someone.

Edit2: Please don't let this fucking thread go unnoticed. I created this fucking sub, I deserve better than this.

Reading this just drives that point home.

Thank you for creating a sub that has allowed me to vent during my darkest times. If it weren't for Braincels, I probably wouldn't be here right now.

I gave you a lot of shit for your decisions back in the day as I thought you were unreasonably stubborn, but having seen the assload of bullshit you guys had to deal with coming from all sides myself now, I came to appreciate everything you did for the sub and the userbase. Wish I could take back what I said now and told you that instead.

I would have been honored to have you back on the modteam some day in the future. I'll miss you brother.

Rest In Peace Buddy if you're gone. Thanks for giving me a place to vent.

I'm sorry man. I've known you since our days on og Incels. It's been more than a year. I'm sorry that people can't do better to help you. This shit sucks and noone deserves to do it alone. You're a valuable person and even if girls are too dumb to see it, I can assure you it's true. You've done a lot for this community and I agree that you deserve better than to be forgotten. If it were up to me I'd do anything to make you feel like a valued person. Sadly I don't think my words mean much. I hope you got the peace you were searching for.

u/AnathematicAnarchist

What happened bro?

Why you suicidal?

He has died. This thread needs to be locked.

therapy is a fucking scam and everyone who promotes it instead of helping to fix people's problem should die in a fire

What is helping then? What can be done to fix the problem?

nothing. Move to third world country and find a bride there.

Assisted suicide, showing the way to art or a craft, maybe more will come to mind. Anything is better than trying to brainwash a blackpilled one

I hope you get better brother.

He's dead. It's been 10 days.

I'm sorry that this happened... thank you for creating a space for us to engage in. Wherever you are, I hope you've found peace, my friend

"I created this fucking sub, I deserve better than this."

created sub deserve

dying a virgin What a loser

dying a virgin

What a loser

Fuck you

You sure got me there, incel.

I’m not even an incel dumbass

dying a virgin

What a loser

Anyone behaving like this twat right here will be permanently banned.

the blood of me and tens of thousands of other people like me is on America's hands for disregarding and throwing away the lives of genetic and social wastes.

Hoarding garbage is bad tho

Rest in Peace.

How the fuck did we miss this shit. Fuck

Board_gaming never stops browsing, do you really think she missed this one? It's far more likely that gaming turned a cold blind eye to his scream for help, knowing exactly what was going to happen. How many incels has she murdered now?

AA and I had a private discussion.

Fuck you

I think she is saying he is still alive

/u/board_gaming I assume he's alive and you're not sharing this information because you enjoy seeing incels suffer. Correct?

I think she's saying she had a discussion when the thread was posted.

you selfish whore. You had no right keeping this thread from us. You could've stickyied this 10 days ago when it was first posted.

So is he alive or not? Please do not play games and give non-answers.

At least let people know whether or not he's still here.

I don't have that information. He would not reveal much.

So that last time you talked him, was it before or after he made this post?

I’m sure it involved a lot of encouragement from you huh? Another one in the w column for you and IT? Sadists.

Is he alive or not?? Stop beating around the bush

is he fucking alive or not

Fucking resign. Right now.

Shutup

...don't even start shit. Just fucking stop.

Im new here, but seeing this... just god damn. I wish i had gotten to know you better before you did this. :( Atleast your at rest now man.

How did everyone miss this fucking thread? Reading the edits made me so sad.....Rest in peace bro....

Rest in peace friend

Please people, give yourself value outside of Internet. Get yourself guy friends with shared interest, they dont care if you ugly. Join a band, play games, shoot basketball. Really anything to get people to depend on you. RIP.

For all we know he’s already dead.

People do care if your ugly what bullshit advice

Friends dont. Ugly friends atleast. If your hobby does not include any women, most men dont actually care

Dude, if you have not done anything but still thinking about it contact me and let's talk. I've never used reddit before, I created an account to specifically answer to this thread. I don't know what is your problem exactly but we can talk about it. Don't give up, you're not alone.

yeah lets talk. Can you provide him with a >4/10 girl to marry? Can you promise she won't cuck him? Can you promise his kids won't have curly hair and protruded lips and brown skin? Can you promise his wife will love him? Can you promise she will fuck him at least thrice a week?

I’m a 7.5 maybe 8/10 female, but I’m black so he would never consider actually loving me.

I’m thinking about following his lead to be honest.

This world isn’t fair.

You're an 8/10 foid? What the fuck. Why are you going for sub 3/10 incels? Are you a mentalcel?

I’m black which means no man will ever love me. I am destined to be used for sex and discarded. Read: https://old.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/8nhigq/race_is_the_most_important_thing_only_white_chads/

so a mentalcel then.

no one cares.

Tupac cares, if don't nobody else care.

this is allowed but no botcel. isn't America great.

I am aware.

lol at femcels rating themselves 7s or 8s. you guys are a joke.

Hating me won’t make your situation better or mine worse. We are both worthless.

Good attitude 8/8

you just have high standards

Nope. You misunderstand me. I am not an incel, like all women I can easily get sex.

Being an unwanted woman is about being UNLOVABLE.

It is genetically impossible for any man to love a black woman, whether he’s incel or normie.

You all want white women primarily. Anything else is coping and settling. Black women are at the bottom of your list, so if you have to settle for us you resent us and hate us.

These are just facts. It has nothing to do with my standards. Being black makes me unlovable to all men.

eh, i've had a strong desire of hispanics over white.. if you're a fat cunt and burnt black then maybe i could believe you, lightskin blacks are desirable

Sure a few men may desire Hispanics or Asians or whatever over white, but MOST men see white women as the ultimate form of femininity.

The further she is from black the better.

its still possible, and im right here tbh. it may not come right away cause of certain circumstances but unless you're fat aswell then yeah you are right, i probably wouldn't. not the best combo

Man, I'm sick to fucking death of the dumbass narrative of equal suffering women keep pushing in this sub.

Boo fucking hoo you're black and hot, whore. Get the actual fuck out of here.

Die you worthless cretin, no one will miss you or care. I never said there was equality in suffering. Now go get fucked.

Oh that’s right... ha.

Ever think you incels are victims of your own mind? You guys always talk about how nobody else has problems and its all about how america is shitty to you. Then you call others victims of their own mind. Incels wouldnt be nearly as bad if they were self aware and stopped living in their own mind. Oh and go ahead and tell me I Don't understand just like how you tell others to fuck off when you dont understand their problems. So fucking pathetic

Bill Burr loves Nia

Saying because you are black you will never be loved means you are either

A) stupid as shit B)unaware that non-racist people exist Or C) little bit of column and alittle bit of column b

The co-founder of Reddit married Serena Williams. So..........

Money.

They both had money. So neither of them married the other for money

Post a pic and prove it

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fuck fuck fuck. am so sorry & hope you still around :-( yes you deserved better

dude, he is dead

Maybe if you worked out instead of spending all your time creating incel safe spaces you'd be happier

Fuck you

Incels suck as humans, and you neglected him at his worst time. I told you my friend was going to kill himself, and you all said buy him the rope, and don't do anything.

Fuck you all.

Not everyone here decided to troll him...

Even non-americans like myself know how cancerous the US is. Everyone knows that place is a third world country with first world technology.

Haha prefect description. Wish I didn’t have to walk around everywhere with a pistol but hey, ya never know when the third world is gonna catch up to you.

Exactly. 1st world nation with 3rd world population.

what does that even mean

You proved it is 3rd world

that makes no sense ?

I didn't say it made sense, just telling you what he means.

You said you need a gun because we have worry about the third world taking over, but needing to carry a gun around means it is the 3rd world. That is what he meant to tell you.

guns are not the problem

It's the fact you have to... Not the guns.

I dont need a gun and its protected under our 2nd amendment most people just like using them for fun

Bro I have guns, I am very pro 2A and I'm licensed to CCW. ** I am saying that is what he meant and the point you made was that there are third worlders here making it third world which is why you carry a gun.**

so its a racial thing for you

Is it for you?

There is white crime too, we aren't talking about third world, it is a crime problem not a third worlder problem.

all races have criminals, all races rob people, all races do violent assault/crimes

whatever go cry about being a victim somewhere else

Wait what, I'm not?

Where am I crying about being a victim? If you want use the chat feature with me but I am not a victim? Aren't you because you said you need to carry a gun to protect from the 3rd world people here?

All the smart curries are going there to develop and innovate, while amerimutts are sitting on their asses busy being the faces of their companies and taking all the credit

This is America

You are the mods of this board. It was your job to see this and respond accordingly. You failed.

Put him in the banner. Rip.

Fuck

How can we,though?

No idea. We will have to wait and hope he had an anxiety crisis and didn't do anything tragic.

you stupid morons, did you shadowban him? How did you miss this thread? I'm sure the subscribers wouldn't have if you had bothered to make it visible.

It was visible. Me and Von found it while looking through his post history.

Nobody else cares apparently. And that sickens me

I'm furious with myself for not seeing this post earlier. I'm told that it's because it was downvoted, but I'm still seething. It's been 10 entire fucking days and I only *just now* see this?

This sub is in pre-moderation mode for some time. I too have a post that sits on 1 upvote and 0 comments, it wasn't approved

I just messaged him. I hope he's still here.

He can get to a better place without relying on hospitalization in some terrifying institution. I wish I had shared my experiences on the hospitalization thread, because I've had a bad one, but I also had a really good one. Maybe if I had shared it, he wouldn't think that hospitalization will inevitably be terrifying and awful.

Most people aren't so out of hope that euthanasia is the best option. I hope that this is true for AA if he's still here.

It's over 4 dedcels

I think he did it, I contacted him after this originally went up. Still waiting in a reply 10 days later. F

OOPSIES! LOOKS LIKE ONE LESS WEAK-ASS FAGGOT FOR THE WORLD TO WORRY ABOUT SNAPPING AND GOING ON A MURDER SPREE!

What a TRAGEDY! Hahah

looks like he stopped taking his anti depressants 20 days before this post

Fuck you. Comments like this are why he’s suicidal.

my friends mom killed herself after she went cold turkey on her anti depressants. how is stating that wrong

Oh I’m sorry I didn’t see what you meant

Psychiatrists and therapists prescribing antidepressants have no fuckin idea what theyre doing. Most of them are SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors). Serotonin is a neurotransmitter that does A LOT of different things (affects mood, appetite, sexual drive, sleep, memory, digestion). But low levels have been linked to depression. So they prescribe these and what they do is inhibit the serotonin from being reabsorbed back into the synaptic clefts, which makes the effects of serotonin last longer.

The result? It temporarily curbs your feelings of depression, but it also fucks with other parts of your behavior as well which is why you hear people say they feel like a zombie when they’re on antidepressants. The other thing it does is causes your body to develop a “tolerance.” Basically, your body starts making even less serotonin which is why people usually have to up the dose of SSRIs after a while. If you continue to do this and then stop taking them cold turkey, you will experience a level of depression that feels inescapable and that you’ve never felt before. You’re basically being prescribed a drug which you develop a dependence on and whose withdrawal symptoms include suicidal levels of depression.

Yea, I've been on them before too- if you immediately stop taking them (like for example, you run out and have no refills) and just abruptly stop taking them, it can really fuck you up. Especially if you've been taking them for a long time.

When I finally stopped taking them, my doctor made a treatment plan to wean me off of them and also made me aware that they have a half life (all of them are different- some are 24 hours and some are like four days). I agree with you- they do WAY more harm than they do improvement. I honestly think behavioral therapy is more effective.

Literally one of the dumbest things you can do is to stop taking antidepressants at once. Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain. Anti-depressants help regulate that often severe lack of neurotransmitters, and when people decide to deprive their brain of medication they’ve been taking without slowly tapering you put yourself at severe risk for rebound depression and sucidal ideation.

Whether you acknowledge the benefits of modern medicine and how meds like this help keep you alive, or you’re a dumbass who thinks the government is feeding people mind control pills, you never, ever advise someone to stop taking shit cold turkey, especially if it’s for psychiatric purposes.

pretty bold move. didn't work out for him looks like

1-800-273-8255

Is that the national whorehouse hotline?

Is that the national whorehouse hotline?

Yeah, make fun of someone posting a suicide hotline that might help others. A perfect example of the fucking crab bucket mentality among some on this sub.

As if dropping the hotline number, taking up 20 seconds of your time, is something noble to do. It's usually dismissive and self ego lifting.

I thought bbw_gaming was becoming based for a second there.

Regardless of whatever self gratification (if any) might also be associated with the act of posting that number, there is no excuse for people here who are dismissive of suicide hotlines that might actually help people; because from what I've seen there is a cross section of people on this sub who literally get self gratification from encouraging others to commit suicide. And the mods here let them do it.

If anything that's gonna finally kill the incel subs altogether. Reddit and its admins are enabling af but once the media gets a whiff of this suicide culture they're gonna clean house like there's no tomorrow.

~some~ majority on this sub

Yes

Fuck off he's been dead for days go virtue signal elsewhere cunt

It is your moral duty to do everything in your power to abolish the current socioeconomic order by any means necessary.

120% correct

This is, in all probability, an attention-seeking troll thread. I've encountered many threads like this before, especially on incel boards, and they always turn out to be a hoax. If this person was serious about killing himself, he would have done so a long time ago and would not be broadcasting it to others.

This isn’t just a person. This is the creator of the sub.

Okay, you seriously need to get a grip and stop all of your virtue signaling. Stop immortalizing the dude — you’re not even an incel — as you’ve said. He’s not a hero. Like most incels, he was just an angry, bitter virgin with no ability to navigate the world socially and a complete misunderstanding of women.

F--k, you are a major loser.

Says the fucking incel LOL. I’ve fucked more women than I can count on both hands, I’m college educated and make sweet money. And above all, I’m happy and satisfied with life. How does that make you feel, princess?

PS: it’s the fucking internet you cuck, you don’t need to “censor your swears”, no matter how much mommy reminds you.

Mmmm. Oh my goodness is that silence rich.

It must suck so much dick to be such an ugly, utterly unappealing little loser that your only coping mechanism is to preach your hate of all women to a group of similarly pathetic beta boys.

The problem isn’t women. It’s you, cupcake. Enjoy being the equivalent of the ugliest human doormat 😂

Bro, I feel you on being proud of achieving happiness. I honestly don't understand incels. But we gotta help them so shit like this doesn't happen to anyone. He has family that will probably be sad.

Yes my nigga we need to get these niggas some pussy

Bro, calm down. Who cares if some incel calls you a loser? He obviously has serious mental issues and doesn't know what he's talking about. Instead of picking on him and re enforcing his shitty beliefs help him understand why his comment is dumb or leave him alone.

Fuck off moron. He was the creator of this sub. I've seen people making suicide posts on boards and it showing up in the newspapers the next day.

Hey piss off man this guy is the fucking founder of this sub. This isn't the time to be 'You are all being fooled and I am smart'

Man, this thread breaks my heart. You deserve so much more than this. On the offchance you're still alive, please reconsider . We appreciate you man, I was in a really dark place before finding this sub. I thought I was the only incel in the world and was at the verge of suicide myself.

Know that you are not the only one going through this, that many of us are struggling with suicidal thoughts and loneliness too. We can cope together. I am sorry that your thread had a negative response the first time. Some of us DO care.

No one can be blamed for this or should blame themselves. As far as I know, no one on here are friends in person. You have no control over what someone 1000 miles away does. I see people blaming each other and that’s wrong.

He made Board_Gaming moderator which means she's now head of the sub and can do whatever she wants with it, including firing all other mods. Great job!

including firing all other mods. Great job!

She can't.

She can since she's the head mod. Or did they change the rules?

Or did they change the rules?

Any major decision like that would need to be voted on by a majority of the moderators to my knowledge. At least that's what I gathered from AAs post at the time.

She still could do that if she wanted, top mod has unlimited power over the other mods according to reddit rules.

That's not how it works sweetie

He made Board_Gaming moderator which means she's now head of the sub and can do whatever she wants with it, including firing all other mods. Great job!

The guy likely killed himself, and this is what you're concerned about?

Lacking in empathy much?

The thing he cares about most is this sub and he thinks he created a community. It's a big deal to him at least

Don’t blame the US blame the Jews. If we still had eugenics going you prob wouldn’t even be here. When you go martyr yourself do it in an international activist or banking organization. Maybe you could get someone important and be useful lol.

Or you could not go crazy and live another day on this godforsaken planet.

rest in piss

Rest in peace brother. May you find peace and joy in another life.

It's even more morbid that it took 10 days for anyone to notice. Like yeah dude we totally care about you, we care about you so much that one out of hundreds or thousands of us remembers you even exist once every 2 weeks or so. Poor guy. What a joke.

well, i just wanted to say thank you for creating this amazing subreddit, and you'll be missed.

he gave me his myanimelist account. i still have it 😢

Aw :(

Honestly it’s said that you more than likely made this begging for attention since all of your edits are “please notice me”

LOL

We'll avenge your death,you suicide won't be in vain

Why the fuck arent you the owner if your own sub??

Wasnt

Hmm?

You said arent. He is most likely dead. So it's wasn't

Wasn't is a weird word now that I think of it

May St. BlackOps2 guide you to your waifus

the amount of virtue signaling kek

I agree. AA hated incels.

"Should I maybe get off my computer and stop shitposting and enroll in social skills classes so I can make friends?"

"Nah let's just stay on reddit make a board for the next worst group of people on the Internet then dramatically kill myself"

You had choices to make your life how you wanted and you chose poorly

This is awful and it’s a real failure on the part of the community. I don’t blame the mods for missing it, though it is unfortunate. It’s fucked up that AA was taunted for this though. Despicable.

To the people who taunted him: you’re no better than IT

This thread has shown me that incels are just as uncaring as the rest of the world. It really is over.

Any reason why I'm being downvoted?

The truth hurts

fuck usa

Wait....is he dead? for real?

More than likely, sad to see him go.

Now, watch as Inceltears completely ignores this thread and continues telling incels to get therapy and meds. Disgusting. They should all drown in spoiled soy milk.

Nice try, faggot.

IncelTears actually are mourning him

So far I've just seen them circlejerk about how evil this sub is in general in most threads about it.

I truly weep for you brother. First, stagetail then blackpill99 and now you.

I give you my word that I will make the women pay for this. They will pay dearly.

u/board_gaming

u/board_gaming knows if he's alive she's just not telling anyone

Listen man, I’ve joined this sub awhile back and never really got to know you. But one day this flawed system will be overrun and we will find peace without having to wait for the next life. I promise you that.

Encore.

He’s absolutely right. america has one of the worst and THE worst for a first world nation. healthy care system in the world.

The health care system is as fucked as the judicial system which is as fucked as political system.

Americas “for profit” system at everything is really to blame. America is doing it wrong.

woke ass nigga b

I’m old man. This has sadly given m the opportunity to see the big picture.

I truly wish you are okay, I am not a supporter of incels by any means but nobody deserves being driven to suicide because of loneliness and depression.

u/board_gaming saw this post but she didn't tell anybody

It was part of her plan

She's a big girl

literally true. /u/board_gaming do you have anything you want to say to the friends of your victim?

I never posted here however I'm upset that he committed suicide. Being someone who has had a family member commit suicide I understand not to mock this and the people who are are fucked in the head. Also can you guys get this board gaming bitch removed as a mod or is she the only one?

Although it is sad that he wants to take his own life, I feel as though creating anarchy is hardly a rational response.

Try Europe

Innalillahi wa in a ilaihi rojiun

You will be Martyred, the Revolution is afoot and your soul will not go in vain. This socioeconomic system will be abolished and the genetic reprobate low IQ’s culled out as vengeance for your loss. Prepare to die Chads and Stacies 💀💀🔥🔥☣️☣️☣️☣️🤢🤮

Is this bait?

The folks on /r/inceltears would probably celebrate this, the disgusting cunts they are

They're actually mourning him

It's called virtue signalling, it's what makes a normie a normie.

I’ve realised that no one can win when it comes to incel logic, unless you partake in their anger. Everything else is despicable in their eyes. It’s a shame mental health services cost so much

Mental health services are a meme

Ok

Yeah because you guys were real solid support to him

This is the first time I've ever posted in this subreddit and likely the last, as I personally don't believe you should be attacked in your own sub.

I'll start off by stating outright that I'm an active IncelTears poster, in the interest of transparency. It's no secret that I call out hatred, sexism, racism, and calls for violence when I see them on this sub or other incel forums. But I am also a mental health therapist, and I know that there is a difference between calling out what people say and attacking them as a person. I have repeatedly told my fellow IT posters to treat incels with respect even while calling out hateful rhetoric.

I am heartbroken to see this post, truly. No one deserves to feel so poorly about themselves and their life that they choose to end it. No one deserves to have their calls for help go unanswered. And no one deserves to feel as if there is no help for them in their own community or because of a group opposed to them.

If you are reading this while dealing with depression, self-esteem or self-image issues, or thoughts of suicide, please reach out to crisis services. You can find help. I am more than happy to speak to anyone, IT or incel, and point them to local resources.

And I implore everyone on this forum: please do not keep advancing the rhetoric that therapy is useless or that therapy is harmful. I certainly understand the distrust of people who do not share your experiences, but therapy can save a life in this situation.

I have repeatedly told my fellow IT posters to treat incels with respect even while calling out hateful rhetoric.

They won't. If you're trying to reason with em from this end, they'll just dismiss you as another incel and tell you to fuck off.

They don't, and they won't.

You're right. There are plenty of IT posters who are there to be hateful, just as there are plenty of people on this sub that are here to be hateful.

But, much as incels are not a homogenous group, neither are ITs. There are many like me who are trying to make sure that IT doesn't become as hateful as the things we try to call out. It may be a fool's errand, but that doesn't mean we won't try.

it doesn't work for everyone.

Therapy can work for everyone, but it's important to note that the strongest determinant of whether therapy is successful is the relationship between therapist and client. Namely, whether or not both are invested in helping the client. I won't pretend all therapists are good therapists, but the vast majority are those that truly care about their clients, myself included. If you come to us for help, you will find it. But if you come to us expecting therapy not to help, it won't.

but the vast majority are those that truly care about their clients, myself included.

If you come to us for help, you will find it.

Multiple therapists, spread across half of my life at this point, and all I got out of it was more suicidal ideation and a drained wallet. Sorry to say, I'm personally gonna call bullshit on that.

But if you come to us expecting therapy not to help, it won't.

I had no expectations, outside of hopefully not waking up wanting to hang myself in a few years time.

I'm sorry that you haven't found what you're looking for. Therapy is an intensely personal process, and sometimes it doesn't work due to differences with your therapist or other variables. But if you keep at it, it will work. The research supports it.

I don't mean to sound like I'm chastising you, but I will insist that if you go in with no expectations or negative expectations, that's a recipe for unsuccessful therapy. You really do need to go into it with the expectation that it can be successful.

But if you keep at it, it will work.

Not very keen on trying again, to be perfectly honest.

The last time left me with a borderline addiction to Zanax, the subsequent withdrawal and a whole new sleugth of mental cracks due to how I was treated in the psych ward, opening up to a therapist about the suicidal ideation again would pretty much guarantee that I go back there since they are obligated to hospitalize me at that point under the law in my country.

I'd rather just cope via my social circle. Atleast I can trust them not to stuff me away for a few days, making the whole thing worse in the process.

Yikes. I hate the overuse of medication, personally. My treatment theory — and this is one that is gaining traction in the majority of the field — is to use medication as a support while therapy is provided, rather than throwing pills at someone (especially benzos like Xanax) and calling it a day. If you do seek treatment again, I'd encourage you to talk to your therapist upfront about their theory of medication before committing to services. That's a very valid reason to choose another therapist.

It doesn’t work because you and other therapists openly admit it won’t help me with my problem. Why can’t you see that?

Wow. That sure is a lot of replies. I can see you've definitely got some real pent-up anger.

I have to say, asking if therapy can help you get laid is the wrong question. That's not the purpose of therapy. Defining the success of therapy on whether or not you get laid isn't logical. It's like saying "I don't like grocery stores because I went there to buy a car and I couldn't."

If your only goal is to get laid, and that is the only problem you want help with, then it's true that therapy will not help you. But that is not the definition of success in therapy, and that does not mean that therapy is ineffective against the issues I have already described.

I have to say, asking if therapy can help you get laid is the wrong question.

“Get laid” you’re trying to de-value sex.

You have it backwards: we start the question “how can I get more good sex?” You said therapy. The burden is on you.

If your only goal is to get laid, and that is the only problem you want help with, then it's true that therapy will not help you.

It is t my only goal, but is my main one, and all goals including having much more good sex. Anyway you just confirmed that I should kill myself. you confirmed that therapy won’t help me. At this point suicide is the default if I can’t get help.

We aren’t talking about other issues. This is an incel sub. The problem is not enough good sex. If you want to talk about other problems then go to a general mental health sub.

No one here should listen to you. You’re intentionally misleading. You’re a troll.

I suggested therapy for the issues of low self-esteem and suicidal thoughts, for which therapy is verifiably effective. I have never suggested therapy is a valid solution to the lack of an enjoyable sex life. That's a straw man argument.

If you are having thoughts of suicide, I urge you to contact crisis services to talk to someone. Let me make myself abundantly clear: I do not condone or encourage suicide. Therapy can help with finding meaning in the world other than sex, as well as helping you improve your self-image, and therefore it can indeed help you... if those are goals you're willing to work toward. However, if you go into therapy and ask your therapist to help you get laid, you're likely to be disappointed with the outcome.

I believe you when you say that the only thing you would like to accomplish by being here is finding a way to have a more fulfilling sex life. But that is not what everyone is here for, and for those that are seeking other goals, therapy can be and often is an invaluable tool.

I can assure you, I am not here to troll. I am here to offer my condolences on the loss of someone who should have been able to find the exact help I am advocating for, and to encourage others in his situation to seek that help rather than take their own lives as well.

You're free to disagree with me, and you're free to believe anything you wish about me. I certainly can't stop you. But I urge you, as I have urged others, not to feed the rhetoric that therapy is either useless or harmful, because it could save a life.

Therapy isn’t effective for MY suicidal thoughts because they are due to not having enough good sex. You said therapy can’t help me have more good sex. So, therapy isn’t effective for my kind of suicidal thoughts. You leave me no choice but suicide. That is condoning suicide to me.

I have never suggested therapy is a valid solution to the lack of an enjoyable sex life. That's a straw man argument.

You deceptively change the subject / question, and then say therapy is the answer.

If you are having thoughts of suicide, I urge you to contact crisis services to talk to someone.

Will the solve my problem of not having enough good sex? If so, how?

Therapy can help with finding meaning in the world other than sex

If that is good enough for me, then why isn’t it for you? How about you abstain from sex and just go to therapy to find meaning in other things?

I don’t have a self image problem. Regardless we are only talking about my problem, not having enough good sex. Therapy can’t help me with that so I the best thing for me to do is suicide.

... and to encourage others in his situation to seek that help rather than take their own lives as well.

The only thing that will stop me from suiciding is having much more good sex NOW. Where is the help for me? You aren’t encouraging me to get help, you are encouraging me to be controlled, manipulated, and generally be a slave or prisoner.

when your problem is not having enough good sex, then therapy is useless and harmful. u/NawtAGoodNinja a therapist, confirmed right here folks.

At this point, I am going to stop responding to you, because you are quite literally twisting my words and it's abundantly clear that you aren't actually looking for a discussion.

The bottom line is this: If you are suicidal, you need to seek therapy. It is proven to be effective against suicidal ideation, depression, and self-image issues.

If the only problem for which you are seeking a solution is a lack of sex, there are also resources for that. To deny the effectiveness of a tool for solving one problem by stating that it is not effective for solving another problem is a straw-man argument. No one uses a hammer to flip their burgers, but no one denies its use as a construction tool because it is not useful to a chef.

If you're looking for a solution to a lack of sexual activity, you know where to look. If you're looking for a solution to suicidal tendencies, or depression, or self-image issues, you also know where to look.

Aww, boo hoo, go take your toys home if you want. People can read this and decide for themselves. You’re the one twisting words: the problem is not enough good sex and you bait and switch to other problems.

I am suicidal because I can’t get enough good sex. The only way therapy would be “effective” isn’t going to solve my problem.

If the only problem for which you are seeking a solution is a lack of sex, there are also resources for that.

Which are ...?

To deny the effectiveness of a tool for solving one problem by stating that it is not effective for solving another problem is a straw-man argument.

Funny how you twist my words. I never made that claim. I said you were side-stepping the important problem.

The only thing that will stop me from being suicidal is much more good sex immediately, or dying. The only option available to me is the latter, so that’s what I’ll do. This therapist drove me to kill myself.

If you would like to have an honest conversation about resources that can help you, I am glad to continue this conversation, and I encourage you to contact me if you are seriously considering suicide. I'm more than happy to speak with you about anything you would like, including how therapy can realistically help you.

However, this conversation has seen you deny the usefulness of therapy due to seeking a goal for which therapy is not effective. That is the simple truth, and it is misleading to utilize that argument and then conclude that therapy is ineffective for all issues. While you are correct that therapy and/or a therapist cannot and will not help you find a sexual partner, therapy is effective for a multitude of other issues. The fact that you do not wish to seek therapy for those issues is not evidence that other people do not wish to seek therapy for those issues, and it is not evidence that other people cannot be helped by therapy.

I hope you do contact me if needed. I am available to talk just about every day, and will gladly help you if you're interested.

What are the resources that will give me more good sex immediately?

If sex is all you're looking for, there are a number of resources that will allow you to have sex. You know precisely what I'm talking about, as I see from your comment history you've tried them before. I tend to agree with several other posters with whom you've discussed this topic, that if seeking sex and receiving sex from those resources did not solve your problem, there are other underlying issues that should be addressed.

I don’t know what you’re talking about. I also explained that sex was a necessary detail of what I am looking for, if what I need to get NOW, otherwise I will kill myself. You need to give me specific women who will ha e sex with me, and not for money. You said you would direct me to local resources, where are they? Who are they? Broken promises just make me want to kill myself even more.

No, I did not tell you I would give you resources for sex. I told you I would give you crisis resources.

It is not my job as a therapist to find a sexual partner for you. We have discussed this at length. If you want to talk about actual mental health resources, they are still available. You know where to find sex if you want it. That is your responsibility, not mine.

It is your responsibility, or you will be responsible for my death. Up to you.

If you make the decision not to seek crisis resources when offered, and then commit suicide, that is your responsibility. If you truly are suicidal, utilize those resources.

I should alert you that I have contacted crisis resources on your behalf and reported your threats of suicide to the appropriate authorities. Protocol dictates that when I engage someone that is suicidal and they refuse to utilize crisis resources but continue to insist they will self-harm that I contact appropriate resources to ensure that person's safety.

At this point, for your safety and for mine, I am disengaging this conversation.

This is why suicidal people don't talk to therapists

You have 30 minutes to send me the contact info for women who will fuck me without having to give them money. If you don’t provide that information in that time frame then I will kill myself. You’re choice

No, the decision of whether to commit suicide is yours.

Have you ever seen The Matrix? Remember that scene where Neo asks Morpheus if mastering his powers will allow him to dodge bullets? Do you remember what Morpheus's response was?

"When you're ready, you won't have to."

Nawt is trying to tell you that therapy may not help you get sex, but it will help you realize you don't need it. You're a hammer, and every problem you see is a nail. You see a problem and an obvious solution. But therapy will help you realize you're not a hammer and not every problem's a nail. You think sex is your problem? No, YOU are the problem. Work on that, and you won't need sex to live.

Nawt, sorry for stepping on your toes in this conversation, he just doesn't seem to understand it in the way you're trying to explain it. I apologize if this isn't helpful, this will be my only post in this discussion.

Therapy can work for everyone,

How many lottery tickets did you buy today? Anyone can win the lottery.

But if you come to us expecting therapy not to help, it won't.

You know what differentiates real thing from a fucking hoax? Real thing does not depend on your beliefs. Hammer hits the nail regardless of belief, surgery works regardless of belief, even psychiatric medications works without need of belief. But with "therapy" it is so different. You expect from patient utter devotion toward you, not unlike religious cult kind of demands. Are you sure you do not asking too much?

And I see it everywhere, really. On fucking reddit these fuckers who do not even have the capacity and empathy to understand problems of others have the only answer to everything: therapy, always therapy, no matter what therapy. It feels like some weird religious chant. And its almost like they even know deep down that you and you kind are fucking charlatans, and just pushing broken people out to the trash your field is.

Therapy is a glorified placebo.

You expect from patient utter devotion toward you, not unlike religious cult kind of demands.

Not at all. I expect the patient to have utter devotion to themselves and to the process.

There's a difference between, say, surgery and therapy. Namely that surgery has an effect on physical structures in the body, whereas therapy is an entirely mental process. Given that everyone's personality is different, and that no two people's goals are exactly the same, it makes perfect sense that a person's subjective experience of therapy is central to whether it is effective or not.

A mental health therapist who participates in a sub that actively makes fun of this sub, yet advocates for therapy. I’m sure you’d be very understanding of their plights, seeing as how you mock them in your spare time.

I’m not against therapy because I believe having someone to talk to can be cathartic, but you’re a fucking joke and the EXACT reason why people in this sub have had bad experiences with therapy.

I do not mock the people. I mock the ideology, and I am very open with that fact. I call out hatred, misinformation about mental health, and calls for violence, because I feel very strongly that everyone is worthy of human dignity. That includes women, racial and sexual minorities, and yes even incels. You can take a look at my comment history for proof: I've gotten myself into hot water with other IT posters because I advocate not bullying or mocking.

That said, feeling that your therapist is not empathetic with you is a perfectly valid reason to seek services elsewhere. In fact, I encourage it.

So you’d be cool with mocking say feminism, BLM, and LGBT as long as you’re not mocking the people?

I'm okay with calling out hatred and discrimination, regardless of the source, yes. There's a big difference between calling out hateful ideology and actually denying people basic human dignity.

What exactly do you think "incel ideology" is?

Based on the posts I have seen while lurking this forum and others, I can note a few defining features that almost everyone in this community shares.

1. A belief that incels are "subhuman" in some way. This can be expressed as a problem with one's physical appearance, one's romantic success/potential, one's race, one's sexuality, and so on and so forth. I'm fully aware that many people are speaking satirically when they say this, but many people are not, and it's a running theme within many incel posts.

2. Vitriol directed at the people assumed to have wronged incels. Most commonly this is directed at women, but again, this can be directed at sexually successful men ("Chads", "Tyrones", etc.), so-called "normies", parents, the government, God, etc. This is probably the most visible running theme in incelism, and it's usually the basis for posts found on IncelTears and TheBluePill and the like. I suspect for most people, this is a coping mechanism to deal with their low self-esteem. It's much easier to point at "Chad" or "Stacy" and say "There's the problem!" than to engage in introspection and self-improvement. As with the first theme, a fair amount of these posts are satirical, but most are not. In the extreme, these posts can include calls for violence against various groups, most notably women or IT posters.

3. A running rhetoric that therapy and other methods of "coping" are somehow a bad thing. This is possibly the most dangerous ideology found in incelism. This is the founding idea that nothing incels can do will help them be more sexually/romantically successful, and they should accept their fate as being the outcast "subhuman" they believe themselves to be. This is what incels use to force others to accept their ideology, and anyone who expresses the idea that therapy, or empathy, or even finding ways to take care of oneself without self-loathing is considered to be a "fakecel" or "volcel".

In the interest of transparency and expressing the same respect to this community that I preach others should show, I have to be upfront and say that I fully disagree with all of these points, but as a therapist I can understand how they develop and why they are upheld. It's my contention that it's important to call out these fallacious beliefs, especially when they can lead to someone being harmed--and that includes when incels are expressing thoughts of suicide.

You literally just psychoanalyzed incels based on their memes. They are satire.

Incels believe they look like shit and there is very little they can do to change that, as they were born that way. Most of them have tried changing and it didn't work. In the meanwhile they are watching the "Chads", or more socially active, better looking men, engage in ridiculous amounts of interaction with the opposite sex, while they are shunned, solely because they are ugly.

They are not placing the blame anywhere. They have accepted their situation. They don't hate Stacey and they don't hate Chad either. They would do the exact same things in their shoes. Mostly they hate normies who reject their reality, the very reality they have lived their entire life.

I agree that if you are unhappy and even suicidal, you should get professional help, but what exactly are you going to tell an incel that will make women desire him to any point?

Oh I'm sure that much of the content on this sub, and plenty that IT screenshots and mocks, is satire. IT engages in satire as well, especially the meme that we're all cucks.

But the sheer volume of these kinds of posts, as well as the language used and the fire with which people are insulted when they express a dissenting view tells me that there are many people on this sub that actually believe these types of things. I have to push back on the idea that this whole sub is satire.

I also have to agree that appearance is important. It's a psychological fact that more attractive people get more social leeway in a variety of situations, sexual activity absolutely included.

That being said, it is also a psychological fact that while appearance is the most obvious and one of the most important factors in social acceptance, it is not the only factor that matters. This is where the meme of "Just take a shower bro" and "Just go to the gym bro" comes in, but at the heart of those memes is a seed of truth. To use incel terminology, people absolutely can increase their sexual market value by means other than altering their appearance.

Moreover, it is my opinion--and I freely admit that it is opinion--that there are very, very few people that are so hideous that they cannot find any kind of romantic or sexual success. I disagree with the idea that women are so shallow that they can only be attracted to the "top 20%" of men.

Finally, the point of therapy is not to make a person sexually attractive, or to him something that will make women like him. The point of therapy is to increase self-esteem, confidence, and reframe negative worldviews. In short, the focus of therapy is on the patient themself, not the object of the patient's affection.

people absolutely can increase their sexual market value by means other than altering their appearance.

No one dissagrees with that. The problem is that it rarely increase their sexual market value enough to make a difference. You are a shill for false hope. An inslaver of incels.

that there are very, very few people that are so hideous that they cannot find any kind of romantic or sexual success.

Define “success.”

The point of therapy is to increase self-esteem, confidence, and reframe negative worldviews. In short, the focus of therapy is on the patient themself, not the object of the patient's affection.

Right. Therapy won’t help me. You admit it. I don’t need to “reframe” my “negative worldview” I need an attractive woman to swallow my cum. The problem is I can’t have enough sex. You don’t get to tell me my problem is invalid.

Suicide is my only option

I need an attractive woman to swallow my cum.

I know it's been said over and over and over but you can bang whores. I had a friend who was born with FAS and some kind of mild down-syndrome. He was, in short, a gremlin. Eyes pointed in separate directions, teeth growing sideways through his gums, the works.

This guy fucked. He fucked A LOT. He probably had more women than the Captain of the Univeristy football team. Literally hundreds of women. He had been doing it for years.

I used to grill him about it because I was super curious about his thought process. He was very candid, said something like "I know I can't get girls, but I can pay for them." The dude probably fucked like Ron Jeremy with the amount of experience he had.

He found it therapeutic. He was never lonely. He said they talked to him like he mattered and he appreciated that it was honest from the beginning. It wasn't a pretty girl talking to him for pitty, or her own amusement. He was in control of the interaction.

I absolutely advocate this practise. Try it.

I’ve already tried it, it isn’t a viable solution for me

If you had NSA sex with a whore and it did not satisfy your need then your need isn't sex.

It wasn’t NSA, the strings were that I had to give her money

I meant emotional strings. I will correct that.

The path you are choosing to walk down isn't helping you.

There are other options and I hope that you can come to a place where you can explore them.

Fuck you

Well i think that you could say any of those or other special interest groups have radicals who promote hate and discrimination, but you choose to specifically mock the incels for some reason.

Maybe you should reflect on why this is.

You're absolutely correct. There are hateful people in every group you can name, even those that are accepted by the general public as the """good guys""". I really do try to call out hatred wherever I see it, though I'm by no means perfect.

My reason for engaging the incel community so frequently is that I find the volume of posts dedicated to discrimination of women, racial and sexual minorities, and especially each other to be very troubling. While I stand by what I said earlier--that there are hateful, rude people in every community, and that includes incels--I'm under no illusions that everyone in this community is that way. I'm especially troubled by the rhetoric that therapy is a bad thing, and the active attempt to keep people whose lives could be saved by talking about their problems from seeking that help. Many people who identify as incel come here because they feel they have nowhere else to go, that they are vilified by the people around them. When they get here, to see posts that express the idea that there aren't even people in this community that care, and advocate for avoiding one of the most powerful tools to combat suicidal thoughts and low self-esteem, it hits pretty close to home. That's why incelism is such a frequent target of mine.

This is also why, though I know there are many here who doubt it, I spoke truly when I said that I'm heartbroken to read this thread. This was someone who could have found the help he needed, but when he called out for help there was no one there, from either of our communities. And that's worse than anything said in anger on either of our subs. A person is dead because he sought one single helping hand and couldn't find it.

You mock the ideology, what of being a lonely male virgin outcast?

You are seriously either deluded or you're trolling. I hope it's the latter because if you actually believe that you can sympathetic towards the people here while taking part in a sub set up to obsessively bully the people here then you're so far up your own ass that you'll never manage to crawl out.

This is a question that I've already answered in full in my other comments. I'll direct you to those for your answer.

I'd also appreciate if you would refrain from personal attacks, as I've advocated for others to avoid personal attacks against you both in this sub and in IT.

Again, you’re missing the point: therapy is an answer to the wrong question.

No your missing the point. It isn't just about therapy, it's about most peoples idea on this forum that any kind of self improvement or anything that isn't insanely negative or self-loathing is bad and automatically makes you not part of the group of incels. This is toxic behaviour and you suck people that may have once had hope and a chance into this vortex of negativity and false beliefs that are very hard to pull yourself out of.

You are a faggot.

Heartbroken my arse. You'll have forgotten his user within half an hour of logging off.

"If you are reading this while dealing with depression, self-esteem or self-image issues, or thoughts of suicide, please reach out to crisis services. You can find help. I am more than happy to speak to anyone, IT or incel, and point them to local resources."

-The help doesn't exist. Men are disposable and treated with contempt for seeking help. Mental health services are run by women for women.

-The help doesn't exist. Men are disposable and treated with contempt for seeking help. Mental health services are run by women for women.

Well, I'm living, breathing proof that that's not true. I'm a male therapist and I treat primarily male patients. I can tell you with complete honesty that no one in this field treats their clients with contempt. It's true that there's a major stigma against men needing to seek therapy--the toxic masculinity you hear thrown about so much these days. And that's a real shame. I speak out against that, too, when I see it. Men can be emotionally vulnerable and experience emotional pain just as women can. And therapy helps both genders when that does happen.

You sound like a male feminist. What's it like to be disrespected by both genders? There is no toxic masculinity just an all out war on masculinity which begins in school. Starts with normal healthy boys being shoved on Ritalin because they don't behave as well the girls.

How dare you gaslight me by telling me no one in your field treats clients with contempt. I've been on the receiving of psychiatric malpractice. I developed PTSD in a psychiatric institution as a result bullying from staff. There is no justice. The internet is littered with people who've had horrendous experiences with mental health services.

There is nothing you can offer an Incel and i'd advise all incels to stay the fuck away from parasites like you. You cannot and will not help us because you refuse to acknowledge our legitimate grievances against a society that wants us enslaved or dead.

I am a male feminist, I suppose, in that I support equality between the genders as I do between races, sexualities, religious choices, and the like.

You have made several false statements, which I'm going to choose not to address due to my belief that you've simply made this comment to pick a fight. If I'm wrong about that, and you truly do want to have a meaningful discussion with me, please correct me and I'll gladly engage in that discussion.

I am sorry that your experience with your psychiatric care was enough to develop PTSD. I do not doubt that it was traumatic for you, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your belief that all therapy is like that which you have described. As a therapist, I am fully aware of the fact that psychology and psychiatry are evolving fields, and we are continually discovering ways in which we can improve the process and effectiveness of therapy, from new drugs to new therapeutic techniques to variables that affect the therapeutic setting. I also know that the field of mental health, especially in America, is atrociously underfunded and misunderstood, and that making mental health a focus of our political policy and social activism will make great strides toward improving the field.

That said, I must insist that therapy is not always like that you have described. From the small amount of information you've given, I can infer that it was likely an inpatient setting and that the situation you found yourself in was one of feeling powerless. Most therapy is conducted in an outpatient setting, and is collaborative between the therapist and patient. Therapeutic theories that involve the therapist being the only authority figure and in essence ordering the patient to undergo certain techniques, like Freudian psychoanalysis, have long been debunked.

I also must address your telling others to avoid therapy. I was sincere in my apology that your experience with therapy was not only unhelpful but actively harmful, but to tell others that may be struggling with depression, suicidal thoughts, and other psychological issues to stay away from therapy is dangerous and may lead to more people meeting the same fate as your moderator. If he had been able to find a therapist that could help him, he may still be alive.

AnathematicAnarchist was seeing a therapist who was 'nice' but AA ultimately felt he was unable to help. I'll say again you cannot help us if you fail to acknowledge our legitimate grievances. It goes far beyond simply not getting laid. Incels are routinely discriminated against. The ugly are less likely to be hired, are paid less, less likely to be promoted, more likely to be bullied in the workplace, more likely to be on the receiving end of medical practice and more like to victims of miscarriage of justice all because our faces don't fit. I'd also wager that ugly kids receive less help at school and we often get the shit kicked out of us. Hell, even ugly babies receive less professional care from nurses.

I've heard this bullying justified as "thinning the heard". There is a eugenic undercurrent to human behavior which people simply refuse to acknowledge. It's most likely a symptom of the just world fallacy.

Why is it toxic masculinity if both women and men shame men?

I am also a mental health therapist

Lmao now you've contributed more to the death of the mentally ill than saved them, nice job.

I doubt that very much, given that I work with severely mentally ill and severely depressed people every day. Many of them have expressed to me that I have helped them avoid harming themselves at one time or another.

You are the reason I will never see a therapist. I would rather die than speak to one when most of you are the same trash who mock us.

Well, I would hope that you would not generalize therapists, as incels don't like to be generalized.

But even beyond that, as I've said multiple times in this sub and IT, I do not mock people. I do not personally attack people for the things they say. I can and will call them down when the things they say are hateful or violent, but I maintain my respect for them as a person. You may call me a liar--other people have--but it is true and it's a fact I'm proud of.

Not only that, but therapy is not predicated on the personal life of the therapist.

I am honestly curious, is there a single documented case of therapy solving incel?

I am from the other side. I would like to see your culture (modern culture) wiped off the face of the Earth. I don't care much about suicide because, having been incel, I know that an incel life isn't a life worth living. The real choice isn't between death and groaning on reddit. The real choice is between solving incel and not solving incel. Most incels here are morons who prefer groaning to solving incel. Incel can be solved by rejecting modern culture and working outside of it. I contributed to several incels solving their problem in this way including a former mod of /r/incels. Any incels who are interested in this approach can go to /r/WhitePill.

Well, that I cannot honestly speak to. I myself have never treated someone who specifically referred to themselves in session as 'incel', though I suspect that some of my clients may know the term or may even be active on this sub as we speak. But because none of my clients have ever told me they identify as incel, and because I have not sought information from co-workers or anyone else on whether they have treated incels, I cannot say for certain whether or not there are verified cases of incels being helped by therapy.

I can say, however, that I have treated both men and women who sought my services for the exact type of therapy that incels would benefit from: specifically, help with extremely low self-image, suicidal ideation, and non-existent self-worth related to being chronically unsuccessful in romance. Some of these clients also exhibited the same type of coping that I've referred to elsewhere in this thread: becoming hateful, violent, and/or aggressive toward the people they perceive have wronged them. In these cases, I am happy to say that yes, my therapy and that of other therapists I have spoken to has been successful at improving their quality of life and reframing the way they see the world.

Beyond that, there is no small amount of research that suggests that common treatments like cognitive-behavioral therapy and acceptance therapy are effective at treating this type of issue as well.

I can say, however, that I have treated both men and women who sought my services for the exact type of therapy that incels would benefit from: specifically, help with extremely low self-image, suicidal ideation, and non-existent self-worth related to being chronically unsuccessful in romance.

I didn't have any of these issues when I was incel, and neither did any of the incels that I helped. Of course there could be selection bias here, namely that those incels open to my approach would be incels who do not suffer from these issues. But the point I want to make is that you are mistaken if you believe that ALL incels suffer from these things. Those incels that I helped suffered from the issues described in this article:

https://caamib.wordpress.com/the-story-of-your-incel-an-inconvenient-truth/

But the point I want to make is that you are mistaken if you believe that ALL incels suffer from these things.

You're absolutely right. I'll retract my statement that implies all incels experience those problems. I still believe that the majority do, but in the absence of any kind of meaningful research to support that, I have to agree that you're correct. My apologies for engaging in the same type of generalizations I've been preaching against!

But did they start having the amount of sex they wanted with the people they wanted? Otherwise, you didn’t really help them.

I am happy to say that yes, my therapy and that of other therapists I have spoken to has been successful at improving their quality of life and reframing the way they see the world.

Were they helped by learning to cope with their shitty lives or were their problems actually solved?

I have an incel friend (who isn't sexist or whatever) who went to therapy for a year. Says he feels better about himself but that it still sucks to be reminded every day that he's ugly and doesn't attract anyone. So from this I take it you just get better methods to cope with how shitty your life is. It still remains shitty though.

https://caamib.wordpress.com/2015/06/28/cutting-off-the-head-of-psychiatry/

You're a POS for posting on inceltears, youre trying to smear us by assuming everyone here is a pedo or that we are violent, youre the reason he killed himself

fuck off faggot

I'll start off by stating outright that I'm an active IncelTears poster

But I am also a mental health therapist

You are trash.

If you are reading this while dealing with depression, self-esteem or self-image issues, or thoughts of suicide, please reach out to crisis services.

What a fucking joke. They’re not going to find a woman who will have sex with me (at least one who won’t demand payment). How are they going to help me? Make your case. Be specific.

We both know you won’t make a good argument. Therapy is worse than useless, it is predatory. It is about turning you into a salve.

I'd like to talk with you or anyone else having these issues as well. You seemed absolutely closed off to the idea that you will find someone someday.

Fuck off faggot

but therapy can save a life in this situation.

if only it could add a few millimeters to my jaw bones

Pretty sure you screenshot a comment I made about getting raped and set it up for mockery at inceltears.

So why dont you go jump in front of a bus you fucking waste of life.

Jesus Christ, what a shithead.

I seem to have found the post in question, in which you do not mention that you have been raped, but say "Women are vile manipulative rapist".

In addition, the reason I screenshotted the list in question is because the OP (a different poster than you) co-opted Little Red Riding Hood to imply that women are rapists. You'll note that neither of the assertions made by you or OP are accurate, hence the screenshot and the post.

THERAPY IS USELESS. FUCKING DUMB BITCH. DESTROY THE SYSTEM THAT WANTS TO KILL YOU.

says the one who says "abuse is a choice you make as a woman." :(

I am also a mental health therapist

Somebody find out where this cocksucker lives and report him/her to his/her psychiatry board.

Not incel but I'm gonna have to agree with the other poster who said that your offer for help is kind of a joke. It reads like a Trump supporter offering help to undocumented immigrants. Even if that person opposes racism and just wants tighter borders, any immigrant would be justified in telling them to fuck off.

I am heartbroken to see this post, truly.

Are you heartbroken enough to stop posting on IncelTears? I doubt it. Go fuck yourself, hypocrite.

I do not intend to stop calling out hate speech on this subreddit or others, no.

That does not mean I am not heartbroken to learn that someone has taken their own life due to hate speech. I have addressed this in both subreddits. My hope, foolish though it may be, is that the insulting rhetoric from both subs will be reduced in light of this tragedy.

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Lol at this virtue signaling cuck/roastie

fuck man this sub got fucking cancer with all the edgy trolls and lurkers we need to do something because we just lost one of ours fuck

Good riddance

What the fuck man

/u/VonMagnar

RIP /u/AnathematicAnarchist. He fought and possibly died for the rights of incels.

Consider it food for thought you merciless ITs. For each Elliot Rodger and whatever the name of the Toronto attacker was, there are dozens or hundreds of /r/AnathematicAnarchist who are simply tired of people piling to mock their weaknesses and telling them that they are less of a man for being an Incel.

not dozens anon, thousands. People all over the world suicide commit suicide for the similar reason. Elliot Rodger and the likes are exceptions and not the norm. ER was also delusional that he was good looking. Most depressed ugly people are self aware about looks. ER wasn't that.

ER was also delusional that he was good looking.

There was nothing that wrong with his looks though. Plenty of uglier people have girlfriends, even full blown azns have white girls. His approach and mentality were wrong and made him repulsive.

Do you think you deserve sex or something? Killing innocents because you haven't been laid seems insane, no?

Reading all of the comments and how angry AA seemed to be in general...is it possible that he/she has back up accounts that they can use as to continue to use reddit etc but under a different name? Maybe they just got sick if the whole thing. Maybe they just wanted to see what people would say thinking they are gone and the reasons for that. Just because it's been ten days of not using the AA account may not mean that's the end. Maybe it's just a fresh start. It could be a lot of things. But hopefully they are alright and if not then I'm truly sorry.

there needs to be a support either group, network, guide, or something for incels or just people on the margins.

there needs to be a support either group, network, guide, or something for incels or just people on the margins.

What was his problem? He couldn't find a job or what?

He couldn’t get laid...that was literally his supposed problem.

Wow. And he blamed whole society for it?

I don't think that's the whole point of the subreddit (although there are some people that would do that maybe)

JFL

Holy fuck, rest in peace you sweet sweet prince.

😢😢😢😢😢😢

One down.

:(

Active IT lurker and occasional poster here. Whatever you all may think of that is fine.

I just want to say this deeply saddens me. I know thoughts and prayers don't mean a lot to people nowadays, but I sincerely hope he didn't carry it out.

If so, rest in peace.

IT killed this man.

You and I disagree there, but I am deeply sorry for his death. I have in the past been disrespectful and mocking if incels at times. I know nobody gives a shit, but I'm sorry for that.

I will cease engaging in any bullying or mocking posts from here on. I will continue to downvote the cruelty I see.

This will likely be the last thread here I comment on. You guys deserve your space and I will do my part to not interfere further.

I am deeply sorry for his death.

You helped bully a man to death. You don't feel sh_t.

I honestly didn't feel like it was bullying aymt the time, but I do regret the negativity I helped propagate in any small way. Like I said, I am done with it permanently and I will give you all your space.

Lmao, you keep up the good fight brother!

jfl 'i'll do my part and downvote the cruelty i see' fucking hell bruv

Here's you and your high horse, Mr. IT.

https://imgur.com/yPEuLfQ

Care of /u/Westcoastincel

What a great moral crusade you are on!

No moral crusade at all. I just realize I was wrong and I do feel bad for what I did to contribute in any way. I will no longer be participating in any hateful dialogue against incels.

don't give yourself too much credit you cunts. Incels have real life problems and we blame IT cucks for fun. In all honesty we don't really care about soyboys and cuckolds. People aren't incels because of braincels or IT bullying. These subs exist because incels do.

How is cyberbullying even real nigga, just close your eyes lmao

Sad, but it's not America's fault women don't want to sleep with you.

Truth

ITS YOUR DUTY TO GO FULL ER BEFORE RETURNING TO THE ETERNAL VOID

Good riddance, lmao. I'd pull the trigger myself on you wastes of space.

Fuck you

Hopefully he was trembling when he put the gun in his mouth from his inherent cowardice, so the bullet didn't kill instantly and he was stuck there, half his face blown off, wondering where he went wrong. Maybe he even considered the idea it was his own fault he was such a despicable and unlikeable person, so vapid and uninteresting that he had no goal in life but to have sex, which he couldn't even accomplish. It's pretty pathetic.

Again, fuck you.

Well, in that case at least somebody wants to fuck me, unlike you, am I right?

I am not even incel.

Well then, I don't see why you should be opposing something as base as natural selection. It's even more efficient now - the weak are removing themselves from the gene pool!

Fuck you triggered me. Time to abuse hookers

why?

/u/VonMagnar

lol this guy was a cuck

Why don't you go to Thailand and bang a few hundred cheap sluts? It may change your mind/help your mental state. I hear that there are brothels that STD test their ho's ...

Bet IT are celebrating right now

I'm part of the IT sub and honestly were not celebrating we did not want someone to commit suicide, we understand that it's fucked up that he did and that some members of both this sub and IT were mocking him is extremely fucked up. But take me for instance this is honestly one of the most depressing things ive read and I honestly wish that me or someone was able to prevent this.

Bullshit IT users understand that it's "fucked up." They wouldn't have bullied him in the first place if they knew how fucked up it was. You didn't even try to stop them, you're just as bad as them.

Sir I joined the community a couple days ago. Also how are they "bullies"

how are they "bullies"

LOL. Don't be obtuse.

Didn't give me an answer I see

Horror story after horror story... From people who are alive. Get help.

For all we know he’s dead.

Although I am not a member of this community or really understand its mindset, I do have to say I'm sorry that you felt no one could help you.

If anyone else is feeling or having suicidal thoughts, or just wants to talk feel free to PM me or contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline.

Rest In Peace.

I'm an outsider. I've got family that I care deeply for that are incels or might edge into that territory as they get older. Odd, a bit autistic in some cases, but genuinely good people I care deeply for.

I'm just here because I heard about your admin and I'm from r/incelswithouthate and I'm not an admin there or anything, but I can say eithout reservation what I know we are all thinking:

You're not subhuman. You are human beings who deserve the chance to love yourself and the chance to earn the love of someone special. You deserve to live. You matter to someone.

Its okay to be angry. Its better to not be, but its better to be angry and alive than dead.

If you're feeling suicidal, please get help. Come talk to us. Talk to anyone.

There are horror stories about the US psychiatric care system, but they are in the vast minority of cases and anecdotal details about negative interactions are usually reported and shared more often than positive ones in any situation.

I'm sorry for your loss.

I hope you finally is in peace. This is the ultimate point of being a incel. Having courage to commit suicide, i hope i finally gain this same courage too my friend.

Rest in peace

Do you need someone to talk to?

I don't like to speak for others but I can honestly say if you have been depressed for more then a year then you are done talking. You have said the same things over and over and nothing changes. It's like walking through quicksand. All people say is "talk about it" and we do, we would be literally insane to keep repeating ourselves and expecting new results. That being said if you are depressed just look at how far you have come, one more day right? Until tomorrow and it's just one more day again, you can handle a day so just take each day as it comes. Don't think too far ahead, you made it this far don't give up.

While I definitely didn't exactly like your work as mod, I really hope this isn't true. I hope you're still alive and okay. I hope this is just fake and a way of you needing to escape here for a while

lol what a fag.

Hahahaha let’s make fun of a fucking suicide note

Fuck you.

Good riddance, degenerate.

Nobody deserves to feel that way regardless of what he believed. As somebody struggling with depression for over 15 years, I know how insignificant you feel in an ER trying to get some fucking help. The system has failed many others.

I’m a 29 year old woman and I’ve been following incels for a long time out of curiosity/fascination. Anyone celebrating, insulting or happy about this loss can go fuck themselves.

You are an individual organism . Your death dosent affect other people. Stop being an attention whore if you really wanna killyourself just do it

Fuck you

Good fucking riddance. The world doesn’t need fuckers like you.

IncelTears, ladies and gentleman

Nah, just a human being that doesn’t understand like people like you live by hating everyone and blaming others for their problems. Get a grip, life sucks - get the fuck over it and conquer the shit that makes you fucking hate yourself.

You're garbage.

Fuck off faggot

Fuck you

Hey guys, look what I found

https://imgur.com/yPEuLfQ

He made a post on inceltears and got mocked for it, how are they not being held responsible for his death ?

Important find.

Fuck this degenerate country and fuck my parents for bringing me here and making me into a ricecel

B Gaming should've never accepted taking over, this place was AA's project. She should've showed him how much his presence is appreciated here.

American culture views people like me as garbage and has no intention of improving our lives.

Fuck the system. The system is responsible for your pain and suffering. It is your moral duty to do everything in your power to abolish the current socioeconomic order by any means necessary.

So true.

This could have been written by me. It doesn’t make any difference, no one will help me and I should kill myself just like him.

/u/Board_Gaming did this

...and nothing of value was lost.

Do you guys not see an inherent problem here? This guy specifically asked for this not to go unnoticed, and the few incels who saw this when it was posted downvoted it and mocked him. Hmmm

I see it but I get told I’m just virtue signaling

Dude the new PoE league is about to start. Bad timing.

Dude, no I care about you and I feel so helpless because I don't want you to die. I don't know you personally but just know that I care, even if that sounds like bs and trust me I can sorta understand because I used to be suicidal and sad for a variety of reasons but I can't fully understand your situation. Please man I just want to know you are ok, even though you have probably heard that In hundreds of other comments. I can't stand it man, I just need to know you are ok.

You let normies invade this sub...

Good riddance. One down, thousands to go.

Cue a horde of worthless cocksuckers who compain about "virtue signalling" losing their shit over this comment. Here's the newsflash, no one gives a fuck about you child porn hording, mass murder fetish having inbreds. Keep following your "leaders". Keep fucking off the face of this earth.

Fuck you. Incels are not like that.

Really? The guy from Houston with a terra fucking bite worth of child porn said he was an incel too, just like that other inbred from Toronto who killed a bunch of people, or the one that shot up a school a month ago. I wonder when he's gonna off himself? Or people in that prison will do it for him? Don't fuck you me bitch ass motherfucker, your life is in the shitter because no one would fuck you, learn to live with that.

I am not even incel

Then don't defend incels you dumb fuck cause it makes you look like one. Just cause one of them killed themselves doesn't mean they automatically became better people. These are still the lifeless fucks who hoard child porn, harass and threaten women online and dream about sucking Nazi dick. I'll be ecstatic if this trend of these fucks killing themselves goes on till there's none of em left. And before you go on about respecting the dead, have you seen any of the posts made by this scumbag before he offed himself? Go have a look then.

Yeah I'm sure a bunch of mostly shy, high inhibition male virgins are this much of a big menace to society.

Also this isn't r/truecels. No one wants to fuck children, here. And there aren't many neo-Nazis here, either. There are quite a bit of Indian men that post here. Muslims, too. Not very alt-right tbqh fam

Who gives a fuck about this sub being a liter version of mega inceldom? You're all the same shit stick out of the same litter with a variation in skin colors and level of cuntbaggery. Also I love how putting yourself with Bob and vegene incels somehow makes you think of yourself being less racist even though all of you are equally disgusting bootlickers made out of the same material. Fuck you and your entire lot, "former incel" my ass.

And how is this productive? Just throwing an autistic shitfit about this? What exactly are you accomplishing by stomping on people you feel superior to?

Jesus, far left people are just as worse as far right people.

I love how you worthless fucks who daydream about mass subjugation of women and minorities are taking a high ground cause one to you offed himself. Suck my dick worthless piece of shit, even the dogshit on my lawn is superior to anyone who has ever posted anything unironically on this shithole of a sub. And don't give me that both sides bullshit no one in DA FUR LEFT has asked for removal of people from their homes at worst they just want you lot to chemically castrate yourselves. And y'know why that might just be necessary in near future.

Man, either you end up deleting these comments or people from other subs see what a genuinely unpleasant person you are.

Also, your rant is completely coherent and you type like an epileptic having a seizure. Go to bed.

I assure you, absolutely no one gives a shit about who's being mean to a bunch ill-bred, inbred incels. Dead or otherwise. Most people prefer them dead anyway.

Charming.

/u/VonMagnar we got another one

he was right, they dont give a fuck about us. all he needed was one person who cared and would be his friend and hang out with him, or take him out on a date. thats it.

No it's not

I really think it would be best if this thread got locked

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Downvoted.

wow, gj mods. you killed the creator of the community

Medicine and therapy only takes you so far. If you are so damaged still that you cannot recover from this, you are finished.

The norman does not understand this kind of mental suffering. At the point that AA, myself, and others are probably at is the point of no return.

I have some of the best insurance you can get. I have gotten all the help in the world at nearly no cost to me. It does not reverse the inner hell we all live.

I hope AA found some secret to beat this and is alive and well, but I know the truth, and I say RIP.

I and many others will probably join him someday.

The system is responsible for your suffering, so why do you want to be part of the system. Idiot. Nobody should have empathy with you. You should take your responsabilities to improve the parts of your life you can improve, especially hardcore looksmaxxing, and stop believing in the system that wants to kill you; that is, psychiatry and all the shrinks. They don't want to help you, they want to kill you.

Edit: this guy already committed suicide probably. He was too late to read the truth, namely that he thought somebody should have saved him, but these people are part of the SYSTEM, so how could you be saved by the system? He should have turned away from the system.

Oh my gosh. Please still be alive. I don’t know what to do, but call the Suicide prevention hotline please. 1-800-273-8255. Or call anybody or anything that would help. Suicide isn’t the answer. Please. Don’t do it. It’s not worth it. I’ve attempted myself. I almost left my little brother behind. If you need to talk then please PM someone or even me if you need help or to just talk. I’ll respond whenever possible and I’ll try to help you get better or if not me then someone you can trust. But please don’t do it. Your life is just as precious as anyone else’s.

You post on JNBT and IT, you're part of the problem.

I dunno what JNBT stands for,but it doesn’t matter right now. This guy is suicidal and really needs help. You telling me I’m part of the problem doesn’t change anything. Right now my concern is his guys life. He deserves to live like everyone else does and even if he’s going through something hard right now doesn’t mean it won’t change and I want to help him. His life has just as much meaning as everyone else.

Aw man, I wish I'd seen this thread before you went, I enjoyed throwing shit at you over the last few months, you gigantic piece of shit.

This is great news

Is this official yet? I mean, how many people know this guy IRL?

Also, the reason mental health is in the crapper in America is because there's no money to be made in helping depressed or mentally ill people. There's only money to be made by selling them medicine that makes them dependent and worse than they were before.

My current psychiatrist is perfectly nice but I don't think he can help me So, I figured maybe I should come clean to my parents and go to a hospital so they can help me Horror story after horror story of how disgustingly unhelpful American emergency rooms and psych wards There's nobody who can help me. My family can't save me, the hospital won't give a shit about me, and I'm incapable of helping myself. This is because American culture views people like me as garbage and has no intention of improving our lives. If there was a single fucking person on the planet who could help me, I wouldn't have to kill myself.

Boo hoo. The only person that can help you in this world is yourself. You are the only person responsible for your own happiness on this Earth. Not your parents, not society, not Santa Clause, not even God. Least of all a wife/girlfriend. Welcome to the real blackpill. Read Marcus Aurelius and git gud.

My only wish now is that I become a martyr for the people like myself who have spent decades under the boot of a cruel and merciless tyrant known as the United States of America.

Wow, edgy. Life in America, so bad. Move to Europe. At this moment you're posting on an electronic device, so if you can afford one of those in a first world country you're pretty well off. Nick Vujicic was born without arms or legs yet made a career as a motivational speaker and found a pretty wife. Stephen Hawking fathered children as a paralyzed cripple with a genetic disorder, then got a new woman. What's your excuse?

It has nothing to do with america it has everything to do with nature.

i hope you did it in the wilds so nobody has to waste money burying your virgin corpse

Thread locked due to brigading and harassment.

Fuck you.

Read my first comment

And this is relevant to AA fucking offing himself how, you actual piece of shit?

yeah lets talk. Can you provide him with a >4/10 girl to marry? Can you promise she won't cuck him? Can you promise his kids won't have curly hair and protruded lips and brown skin? Can you promise his wife will love him? Can you promise she will fuck him at least thrice a week?

lol

its still possible, and im right here tbh. it may not come right away cause of certain circumstances but unless you're fat aswell then yeah you are right, i probably wouldn't. not the best combo

Well that's what Inceltears do, it's in the name. I didn't say he should've gone looking for sympathy from Inceltears either did I?

You and I disagree there, but I am deeply sorry for his death. I have in the past been disrespectful and mocking if incels at times. I know nobody gives a shit, but I'm sorry for that.

I will cease engaging in any bullying or mocking posts from here on. I will continue to downvote the cruelty I see.

This will likely be the last thread here I comment on. You guys deserve your space and I will do my part to not interfere further.

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I’ve already tried it, it isn’t a viable solution for me

I dont need a gun and its protected under our 2nd amendment most people just like using them for fun

Aww, boo hoo, go take your toys home if you want. People can read this and decide for themselves. You’re the one twisting words: the problem is not enough good sex and you bait and switch to other problems.

I am suicidal because I can’t get enough good sex. The only way therapy would be “effective” isn’t going to solve my problem.

If the only problem for which you are seeking a solution is a lack of sex, there are also resources for that.

Which are ...?

To deny the effectiveness of a tool for solving one problem by stating that it is not effective for solving another problem is a straw-man argument.

Funny how you twist my words. I never made that claim. I said you were side-stepping the important problem.

The only thing that will stop me from being suicidal is much more good sex immediately, or dying. The only option available to me is the latter, so that’s what I’ll do. This therapist drove me to kill myself.

It wasn’t NSA, the strings were that I had to give her money

not dozens anon, thousands. People all over the world suicide commit suicide for the similar reason. Elliot Rodger and the likes are exceptions and not the norm. ER was also delusional that he was good looking. Most depressed ugly people are self aware about looks. ER wasn't that.

Do you think you deserve sex or something? Killing innocents because you haven't been laid seems insane, no?