Women really don't care about misogyny

35  2018-05-20 by everythingshewants7

  • They lived a perfectly happy life when they had no rights; nobody complained
  • Muslim women don't complain; in fact, when living in the free west, they choose islamic rules
  • Relationships with an abusive male are the most succesfull relationships and women are more loyal to these men
  • They send loveletters to highly violent men in jail
  • They loved Hitler

Really, why do they need all these rights and privileges for? They don't need it and they don't want it. Forced monogamy is just a small favor.

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They want to fuck abusive men while still being orbited and treated like a Queen by pathetic beta cucks

hitler supported welfare for women though

Women are easily swayed when it comes to politics whether it's right wing or left wing

People are in general, actually.

I said women, not people

They only care about looks.

Bones >

Ok, let's go back to those times, and you have a wife. As your property, she is now entirely your responsibility. Anything she does, any debt she accrues- it all falls on your shoulders, as the man. Are you prepared for that?

That's not the point, moron.

Indulge me. Would you want that sort of arrangement?

Once again, you missed the point. The point = women don't care about misogyny. They just don''t care.

It depends. Shitty sexist jokes or whatnot, I don't really care. If it actually affects my every day life, I do. Being told 'you're a woman, I don't expect you to understand' and that sort of thing pisses me off. Luckily I live in a country where we do have equal rights under the law- there are parts of society who don't believe that should be the case, but I can't be arsed to worry about them.

By the way, most women are embarrassed by third wave feminists bouncing up and down shrieking about the patriarchy, but who can't point to valid injustices. Life is much easier if you accept both men and women are a mixed bag and just treat everyone fairly.

You don't understand. Incels normally don't give a shit about political things. We normally don't even bother about your rights and most incels were liberals in the past, who also belived in love and that kind of delusion. We are mad as males because our needs aren't fulfilled and we get treated like shit. We get sick of women constantly chasing chads and lying about their intentions. Nobody cares about the sexual inequality in society, so now we come to the points we don't care about female rights anymore. We're living in one big lie and society is a farce.

What you've done there, though, is put yourself in a position where you can't possibly be contradicted. If a woman told you something you didn't already believe to be true you would call her a liar. No new information from a female point of view can ever reach you. I could tell you until the end of time about my own experiences and those of the women I know, but you'd disregard anything that didn't chime with your beliefs.

You've painted yourself into a corner- you're alone, but any woman who showed any interest in you would be assumed to have some sinister motive; there's no way for a potential girlfriend to even get close to you.

It may be a surprise to you but I have views about mens' rights when it comes to their children- a close friend on mine went through the mill with his ex, she didn't even really want full custody but some women see you as unnatural if you don't, it was peer pressure essentially. They're 50/50 now and it's going well but it took a lot of time and money to get there. The UK legal system is improving in that regard but there is a bias in the family court towards women, from both male and female judges. If something's unfair, it's unfair- no matter if it's happening to men, and not within the interests of my sex.

I've said this before but I have no quarrel with incels. I understand loneliness and frustration. The whole reason I started coming here is to try and correct some of the truly lunatic things some incels believe about women. Mostly it has been a waste of time, as you might guess.

That is right. Because i have never seen a woman back up her words in real life by actions. You women like to talk and talk about how good you are, loyal, caring, sensitive, empathic, etc. We see none of that in real life, none of this is backed by actions. All we see is arrogant, narcissistic big mouthed, entitled nasty women who lie all the time, and by lying, we mean you say A, but you do B. That's why we don't believe a word you say. It has nothing to do with miogyny, we just don't see what you all say to us and claim to be.

''You've painted yourself into a corner- you're alone, but any woman who showed any interest in you would be assumed to have some sinister motive; there's no way for a potential girlfriend to even get close to you.''

And this is one of the reasons we attack you. Because it is just not true. You don't know my real life. You don't know how i act towards women in real life. And i can assure you, they don't give a shit about who i am, as long as i look good.

''Mostly it has been a waste of time, as you might guess.''

It is a waste of time, and not for the reason you think it is, but because it's all talk no actions. Almost nothing women claim here has been proved in real life, nor by scientific research. Everything that is claimed, is disproved by scientific research. You all have the wonderful capacity to believe your own lies, while acting in a total opposite way. This two-faced snakeish behavior, we don't like it. You tell the truth, without coping and lying to yourself, and you ACT according to it, then we have no problem with you. Unfortunately, this is never the case.

If you truly believe that, I really feel sorry for you. I suppose the generous, intelligent, friendly women I know must all be a figment of my imagination. I can't even think of one occasion when I have treated anyone poorly because of what they look like, I must be demented I suppose.

Why is it that incels expect to be understood and considered and taken as individuals, yet you won't do this for women? This recent school shooting, you were all appalled that people might think he was an incel, yet you casually denouce women for their looks, intellect, morals etc all day every day, as one inseperable mass.

And I'm not saying any potential girlfriend can read you mind. What I mean is that you could meet the gentlest, most innocent girl and only see the arrogant liar you describe. You won't get close to a woman because you hate them too much to care about them.

We don't care about being understood. We all know you can't understand if you say something like this:

'You won't get close to a woman because you hate them too much to care about them.'

You're denying the blackpill, the truth. There is no point in arguing with people who don't understand that personality is meaningless. Every women says she finds personality important, yet all they want is LOOKS, cause that is how they ACT. This is the fundemental point. Everything else, the so called misogyny, etc. is futile. THIS is the fundemental point we make.

Jesus wept.

It's you who misunderstands me. You complain about being an incel- which is understandable- yet you say yourself that women are dreadful in every way. Does that not imply that you will never find a woman you would be satisfied with? As a casual lay perhaps, but not as a partner.

Let's face it, it's very convenient for you to say that women only care about looks, and that's why you can't get a girlfriend. That means that, short of getting surgery of some kind, you can't be blamed for your single state. Personality apparently has nothing to do with it, or humour, or charm, or kindness... so you don't have to develop any of those things. You can just sit back and bitch about women because it's all our fault. I'm sorry the vast majority of women can get laid while you find it difficult- I acknowledge that, although it makes no consideration of the quality of the partner- but storing this level of rage towards half the world's population isn't healthy for you or them.

I don't even care about relationships anymore. How could i ever take a woman serious again if i know all they want is money and looks. Instead, i invest in myself, i looksmaxx a lot, i make good money, i look healthy and fit, i get attention and looks from women, i have my own business, i have a great relationship with the females who work for me and my communication skills are very good. Everyone who works for me praises me for my communication skills. I'm also a very humorous person and although there was a time i hated my parents and i had a lot of conflicts with them, i care for them and try to be nice to them now, because I look better now and they treat me well. Now, I told you, you don't know me. You're just talking bullshit, repeating the same bullshit IT is feeding you. I don't need your pity, do you understand? I don't need anything from you. I Just expose your lying snakeish behavior when it comes to relationships and sex, and I enjoy doing that. You are nothing to me.

IT isn't the source of everyone who disagrees with incels.

If you really do have a good relationship with women yet believe all this shit, isn't it you who's being two-faced, living a lie? Because if I truly thought all men were morally barren scum, for example, it would be hypocritical of me to pretend I liked them to make my life easier.

Not at all. You don't understand life. People have different identities in life and that's how it is. I can respect a woman for the work she does for me. In fact, i think women are better workers than men. I can treat a woman like a woman in real life. I can make her feel like a princess if she wants, i can respect her personality - whatever that is. But i do not have to respect her true nature as a woman, her biological system. I know exactly how this system works. If a women asks me what I think about women in general, I just tell it like it is: they are not loyal, they want the best genes, they aren't interested in me as a person when it comes to relationships or sex with me, they only want face, they cheat because of hypergamy, et cetera. Cause it is what it is. I have experienced it and i know how it works.

I know I can't change your mind, but I wish you well. If it works for you, it works.

I'm in a different situation than most incels. I looksmaxed and it changed my life. Every single theory of the blackpill is true, i have experienced it myself, although you as a woman will never be able to admit it. Me personally, i need to take revenge on women when it comes to sex and relationships. I need to treat them like chad treated them, and like they treated me when i was uglier. They treated me like an object, an animal, all of them, even my own mother and sisters. I was nothing to them, only because of my face, not my personality, cause i'm the same person now. My ego could not accept that, i had to looksmaxx, to be a human to them. The only thing i still want to do is take revenge on women. I want to pump and dump them, dehumanize them during sex, like they dehumanized me during my life. Every single one of them treated me like shit. That's why we are angry at you, women, your awful nature. You have dehumanized us, we are not human to you, and then you all come here acting like a good person. We do not accept these lies. We expose it over and over again.

Confirmation bias plus thwarted rage, it's a heady mix. You say your own mother treated you like an animal. How?

No confirmation bias. My mother ignored me, verbally abused me, was constantly complaining about me, etc. After I looked better it stopped. Face is everything.

Or your mum's just a horrible bitch, ever think of that?

No, she's not. This is just how nature works.

I mean this in the least patronising way, but... Grow up.

Men and women were both happier under that life

Why did it change then? If everyone was so happy.

Because no matter what you give them women never stop asking for more

Equality, you mean.

It's not like they had bad lives before. We had our roles and the had theirs. Everyone had a purpose in life.

If people are more happy under that system then that is the only metric that matters to me. If people were happier under equality then I would support equality. But we are not. Depression and suicides are at an all time high and it's only going up

What are you using for sources when you say 'people were happier'? And which country/countries are you talking about?

Equality doesn't exist and it never will. Equality is a buzzword. It's a lie. Be sad that feminism took off. Too many women destroying their ability to pair bond and then when they finally do reproduce it's after they've destroyed their brains and wombs through a lifetime of partying. Do you like the idea of having an autistic child that will end up posting here? Autistic or not will you tell em why daddy isn't married to mommy anymore or will you feed em a flowery cope like "...guess things just didn't work out :/"

Check out THIS Neuroscientist overhere! CNN BREAKING NEWS: INCEL DISCOVERS CAUSE OF AUTISM.

Civilization is always changing, that doesn't mean that new generations will appreciate the progress made on every front.

You miss my point. If people were happy under that system, as you claim, what motive did anyone have to change it? And don't blame women entirely, they wouldn't have been able do it on their own.

Maybe they weren't happy. I'd like to go back in time and ask them why they thought replacing the pillars of society with mindless materialism and hedonism was the path to greater happiness.

I doubt they thought they were. Changes to society are generally made gradually and often those who started it all have no idea where everything will end up. Once an idea or set of ideas are out in the public you have no control over how people apply them.

  • Suffrage movement
  • They can't complain, it's all they know and it's difficult for someone brought up in a very religious region to just drop it.
  • Nope
  • Nope, anybody who sends love letters to murderers are obviously insane, and it's in no way common practice
  • Most Germans loved Hitler, the circumstances of his rise to power gave him an increased social standing. And he didn't oppress women in any capacity. In conclusion- you're just sad

You are lying. In real life, all the most violent men have girlfriends. You are a liar. Violence is a HIGHLY desirable trait. My father beat the shit out of my mother and she's still with him. You don't understand female nature. You are a liar.

Go ahead, prove me wrong then. Slam a woman's head in a wall, I bet she'll jump on you so hard that you'd cum in your pants.

I already proved it. My father slammed my mother's head many times against walls. One day, he hit her so hard, he almost broke her nose. She's the most loyal white woman I ever knew. You see, the world is not how you want to believe it is. Nature and evolution have no morals, morals are a coping mechanism. Do you understand this fundemental principle? It's not because you think or want to believe the world is a fairytale, that it is a fairytale. Women like violent males because evolution made them desire it. It has evolutional advantages, do you understand?

I genuinely hope you made up that stuff about your mother getting beat up by your father in a feeble attempt to win an argument with a random person online, but if not, it sounds like she's is/was in a dangerous and abusive relationship. Violence can often make partners afraid of leaving, and some people are also led to believe it's normal. Assuming you weren't lying, do you know if this is still happening?

Do you think we incels make things up? No we don't. It is the truth. You just don't understand life. My father is old now. My mother is the one that runs the household now. She's happy. You don't understand female nature. If my father wasn't the one he was, the relationship would've never sustained and it would've ended into a divorce, with all other bad consequences. This is the truth. My mother would've never accepted any weakness in my father. He is a warm person, he was a good father, but if he was soft, if he was softer towards my mother, she would have destroyed him mentally. Cause that's how females are, especially my mother. My father hit me as well. Many times. I do not care at all, i have a good relationship with my father now. He took his responsibilities, he protected his family in many ways and cases and worked extremely hard. But yes, he hit us, and he hit my sisters as well. My sisters love him more than anyone else. We don't have any hate towards him. We understand he did it because he believed he did the right thing. We know nobody is perfect, we know his upbringing and his life wasn't always easy. But he did everything to be a good father and took his responsibilities as a father and man, despite his flaws. I would even go so far as to say we would have less respect for him if he wasn't so dominant sometimes. But he's not a monster. I'm not protecting him because he's my father, neither to back up my argument. This is how we feel about it. I'm Just telling the truth.

You don’t understand female nature child. Your mother likely stayed/stays with him and wears a cheerful enthusiastic mask for you, for her children, you do realize that? Her life is not ideal but she makes the best of it to give you the best possible life. She likely believed that this would be preferable to struggling to raise you alone in a broken home. Most women are likely attracted to big strong men who can defend them, it is not typical for women to want a violent maniac who would be an ever-present physical danger to her.

Not at all, my mother never wore a mask, she exposed her feelings without any shame. She suffered from my father's domination, and we told her many times she could file a divorce if she wanted. She wasn't innocent herself as well. She often times provoked my father, she's provocative and was testing my father's weaknesses many times. That's what women do. My father had to do what he had to do, otherwise she would have monkeybranched.

'it is not typical for women to want a violent maniac who would be an ever-present physical danger to her.'

I tell you, these are the most stable relationships in the western world. Violence is a desirable trait, and you know why? Because women want to be dominated. If my father didn't act the way he acted, she would have taken advantage of him. You either are the dominant one or the passive one in a relationship. And you better be the dominant one. I know men in different relationships: their women dominate them. And these men are completely terrorized by their girlfriend or wife.

Women aren't innocent. You either dominate them, or they dominate you. That's how it works in real life.

Wow you've been really messed up by your experiences to the point you struggle to form a healthy relationship. I'm sorry for what you went through but I wish you would realize it is not an ideal, successful, or stable relationship. No woman reading your account of your parents' relationship is going to be jealous of your mom.

I know how they are because my own mom stays in a relationship with a violent man. Me and my brothers hate his guts and wish he would die in agony, and put some distance between ourselves and our parents. I'm in a relationship with a man of 10 years who has never once struck me or raised his voice to me, or me to him, and if we did the relationship would be over.

Please see a therapist. I'm not being condescending. You deserve the chance to be able to recover and empty your head of this toxicity and self sabotage.

What don't you understand? My father is the best father I could have ever wished for. He apologized for his behavior in the past but he didn't have to me. We understand his temper. We're all ok with him and my parents are both very happy now, enjoying their holiday at the moment. A person can make mistakes, nobody is perfect. You should respect my opinion about him and my mother's opinion. Discussion closed.

Well I don't. I intend to tell everyone seeking advice to get out of relationships like your mom is in. There is greater happiness out there than what she's got. Sorry.

You are a fool that doesn't understand reality cause you're completely brainwashed. Every relationship is different. People are free to choose whoever they want to be with. Even a so called abusive man can be a good man with good traits. Everyone has got his own choice and responsabilities. If someone doesn't want to be with him, they can leave him anytime they want. It's very simple and people should take responsabilities. You're victimizing people that aren't victims or don't feel victims. They have CHOICE. Do you understand this very basic concept? No you don't, cause you're brainwashed.

They have choice, doesn't mean their choices are the ones resulting in the most happiness for themselves or their families. Just because your mom made A choice, doesn't mean it was the best one or even a good one. You've rationalized a lot but you've failed to convince anyone but yourself that there's anything desirable about the way your family lives.

I wish you the best but hope you find your way to something better in life than what your parents have.

You're describing domestic abuse. Trust me, I know what that's like, and it's atrocious. I just wish your mind wasn't so warped to the point where you don't recognize it. I spent too many years denying it in my own life.

What? Who said i don't recognize it. I even described it in details and then you say i don't recognize it. What are you talking about. It is what it is, and nobody in my family cares anymore, so what is your point? You think there's somekind of deeper freudian coping mechanism or whatever. My mother, me and all other familymembers are free persons. If we want to feel rage and take revenge on my father, we will do it. If we want to cut the ties with my father, we will do it. The fact that we won't do it, should tell you enough. I already told you: my mother is a free person, nobody is forcing her to stay with my father. She's completely free and financially independent. You're brainwashed by the media, life is way more nuanced than you want to portray.

You don't recognize it as domestic abuse, or at least you have indicated that you don't potentially up until now. Do you recognize it as such?

Read my words: I do recognize it as domestic abuse. You all think there is somekind of psychological wound that needs to be healed because of that. Fact is nobody cares about it in my family. I don't care about it at all, and that's not a coping mechanism. Children were hit for centuries, and now in the 21st century it's suddenly a big problem. It's all subjective. What do i have to say to you other thant that i do not feel a victim about it. My father did the things he had to do, and that's the way it went. He thought it was the right thing to do cause that's what was teached to him when he was a child. I hit him in the face when i was 14 year old, and then it was all over. I'm not a victim, i mentally hurt him many times myself. We have equalized, there's nothing to blame him for anymore. 'The past is the past'. He's a good man. He never cheated, never drank alcohol, never tried to manipulate us, he was a good storyteller, loved his children and did everything he could to give us a good life. It had no effect on who i became. The only thing that had an effect on me was when i was bullied at school. The children at school hit me on a daily basis, they even tried to burn me once with fire. That probably had an impact on me. But i don't really care about it anymore. The thing with my father, it had no impact on me.

You've said a few times that he did what he had to. Why do you think he had to do this?

Because that's how he was raised himself. He tried to put boundaries and sometimes he hit us, cause he thought that was the way to raise his children. And maybe he was right. There is no perfect way to raise children. It was normal to hit children in past centuries. Nobody made a problem about that. It's only now that people think it's a problem, cause morals are subjective and time-bound. It becomes a problem when people are told they are victims. I do not consider myself a victim of that at all, it's no big deal. I shared this story to make another point, it wasn't my intention to talk about myself and personal life.

You've explained why he thought it was normal. You haven't explained why he had to.

Because i'm not Freud. Maybe he was frustrated? Lifeproblems, stress? High testosterone? What does it matter.

You've said that he had to, but you haven't explained why. Right now you're offering potentially explanations for why he might have had to, but I'm asking for you to explain why you're under the impression he had to.

You're asking the same question because you think i'm unconsciously hiding something for myself. But fact is, I already answered that question. He had to do it, because that was the powerbalance that made the marriage between my mom and him survive. If the powerbalance was slightly different, if he was less dominant, if my mother was more dominant, the marriage wouldn't have survived. This was the stabilizing factor that made the marriage survive for more than 35 years.

I'm just trying to understand you. Nothing more. Why do you believe there's no middle ground between a female-dominant relationship and domestic abuse on the part of your father?

Probably not in this relationship. I think my mother would've left him. My father is not ugly, but he's also not the best looking guy. He looks alpha though, he has also a very strong character. He had bad finacial times. If he wasn't so dominant, my mother woul've left him. There was a time he had no money cause he went bankrupt. Why should a woman stay with a man who's bankrupt. He needs to offer something to sustain the relationship. I think being dominant and occasionally violent saved the marriage, besides his strong character. It doesn't have to be like that with every relationship. But every relationship has a certain powerbalance. If this balace is disturbed, it falls apart. Most relationships aren't healthy. At least, the underlying factors that sustain the relationship, are wrecked.

You've proposed a question, why would she stay with him given that he's not the best looking, he has a strong character, and went through bad financial times? Your answer to this is because he's abusive, but I'm looking for an explanation for why you think this is the correct explanation. I'm also looking for you to explain why there is no middle ground between a female-dominant relationship and domestic abuse.

Suffrage movement

Hahahahahaha... oh wait this wasn't a joke?

Could I get a fact-check on points 1, 2, and 3 please?

Why not point 4? Point 4 is enough to prove my point.

You didn’t answer my question

We don't care about being understood. We all know you can't understand if you say something like this:

'You won't get close to a woman because you hate them too much to care about them.'

You're denying the blackpill, the truth. There is no point in arguing with people who don't understand that personality is meaningless. Every women says she finds personality important, yet all they want is LOOKS, cause that is how they ACT. This is the fundemental point. Everything else, the so called misogyny, etc. is futile. THIS is the fundemental point we make.

I already proved it. My father slammed my mother's head many times against walls. One day, he hit her so hard, he almost broke her nose. She's the most loyal white woman I ever knew. You see, the world is not how you want to believe it is. Nature and evolution have no morals, morals are a coping mechanism. Do you understand this fundemental principle? It's not because you think or want to believe the world is a fairytale, that it is a fairytale. Women like violent males because evolution made them desire it. It has evolutional advantages, do you understand?

It's not like they had bad lives before. We had our roles and the had theirs. Everyone had a purpose in life.

If people are more happy under that system then that is the only metric that matters to me. If people were happier under equality then I would support equality. But we are not. Depression and suicides are at an all time high and it's only going up

Equality doesn't exist and it never will. Equality is a buzzword. It's a lie. Be sad that feminism took off. Too many women destroying their ability to pair bond and then when they finally do reproduce it's after they've destroyed their brains and wombs through a lifetime of partying. Do you like the idea of having an autistic child that will end up posting here? Autistic or not will you tell em why daddy isn't married to mommy anymore or will you feed em a flowery cope like "...guess things just didn't work out :/"

I'm just trying to understand you. Nothing more. Why do you believe there's no middle ground between a female-dominant relationship and domestic abuse on the part of your father?

People are in general, actually.

Or your mum's just a horrible bitch, ever think of that?