"After the sexual revolution everyone will be able to enjoy casual sex"

180  2018-05-20 by NewLoadsOfFun

140 comments

Its over

I had tinder for almost two years. Let's just say that the only people who liked me back were A) less than ten, and B) less than one on the scale.

...How am I still alive?

Well, if you don’t want to date a girl who isn’t attractive, why should a hot girl date you?

true

what part of the country are you in? i'm pretty damn gross and i still managed to match with a few qts

Ontario, Canada. The level of entitlement from women here are intergalactic. This is coming from the experiences of some of my chad and chadlite friends.

Also, the roasties here are completely in a tier of their own.

So you had matches with women? Where is the problem? No offense but beggars cannot be chosers. Be happy with what you got and get to know those people.

Not in life, not in death will I ever beg.

And before the low IQ posts start pouring in, my post isn't me complaining, it's retelling my experience with the app to give others an idea of how bad we truly have it.

Spoiler: It never began for many of you.

JFL if you thought you had a CHANCE

I was in high school before girls had social media (MySpace was only just becoming a thing) and smartphones hadn't been invented. The internet and comics and science fiction were all supremely uncool back then. I honestly wonder sometimes.

Me too. Myspace barely started

No one ever said that.

So you're saying hypergamy is real then?

I'm saying that the point of the sexual revolution was not that everyone would get laid.

Then it was only for a select few to enjoy all the sex?

Yes I think that's what the whore is saying

Everyone has equal right to who they choose to sleep with. Equal opportunity does not mean equal outcome.

1.) That sounds like Libertarian talking points

2.) You are seriously dodging the question here

Does hypergamy exist or not? Yes or no

Bodily autonomy is not a libertarian ideal, it's one of the few paramount pillars of any free society.

"Hypergamy" as this sub defines it does not exist, considering you guys base the definition on subjective, immeasurable criteria, opinions, and feelings.

Bodily autonomy is not a libertarian ideal, it's one of the few paramount pillars of any free society.

As is many other stuff like freedom to choose how much you work for, who you hire and who you choose to serve at your business

How can you think it's okay for a society that a top percentage of men get all the sex and that's fine but when the question turns to wealth (a top percentage of people owning all the wealth" then it changes

"Hypergamy" as this sub defines it does not exist

Then explain why it isn't you dumb cunt

Counter point though is the compensation you get from labor, whether self-contracted or not, is bodily autonomy.
I think the correct response is certain autonomy is held as more sacred than other's, obviously rape is different than money redistribution.
Same with the idea of minimum wage (freedom of negotiation between individuals), and other laws. Only place this gets shady is externalities and natural resources and what a governing body can establish as private property.
But slut shaming lies no where in any of this argument of semantics.

As a libertarian leaning right winger, I think I might like your views on economic policy. Care to share them?

Everybody does not have an equal right to choose who they sleep with, well not without breaking the law. I would very much love to sleep with a prostitute to just get it over with before I go NBK but since the federal goverment needs control over every aspect of people’s lives I cannot do that because prostitutes are extremely hard to find without connections around here and since I am ugly I have very few honest connections I can trust. So no I do not have an equal opportunity, my only opportunity is illegal. Thanks

Hey, VodKA_1488, just a quick heads-up:
goverment is actually spelled government. You can remember it by n before the m.
Have a nice day!

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Bunny ranch in NV. You don't need connections to get seen there. Or travel to Europe. They have legal brothels in the Netherlands and Germany and in other countries like the UK prostitution is legal as long as its not in a brothel or on the street. There are legal brothels in New Zealand and prostitution is legal in Australia for the most part.

Fair enough. I don't dispute that. You have no right to force us to pay for all your casual sex and welfare though.

Sluts like to twist equal opportunity and equal outcome

only all women who want to get laid can get laid.

And all persons have total body autonomy under the law.

Opportunity does not guarantee success

If that is the case, then the government should allow assisted suicide for all incels.

Demanding someone else harm you is not body autonomy.

It is if you consent to it.

How is it harming me? I just want an easy way out? Assisted suicide is a lot less painful than other methods

If we all had equal opportunity prostitution would be legal This issue is no different than any economic issue, goverment regulations keep people from having equal opportunities. So many dirtbag commies and statists on reddit. Get rid of the state and you will have full freedom to solve your problems

Hey, VodKA_1488, just a quick heads-up:
goverment is actually spelled government. You can remember it by n before the m.
Have a nice day!

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Not everybody but I did see some article of someone saying that the problem with incels is they contribute to slut shaming, and in the absence of slut-shaming incels would most likely get laid as women became more open.
Like it was actually trying to sell the idea of ventured self-interest to the incel community and pretty sure it was written on a liberal/feminist website.

I forgot where It was written but it was a good few pages long of an opinion so there was some dedication put towards writing it.

Not everyone is saying that, I did read this on some kind of feminist/liberal website that incels are harming themselves by slut-shaming, because in the absence of slut-shaming incels would most likely get laid. It was kind of selling itself as an appeal to incels, and the author did dedicate multiple pages to it so it was something she/he had ventured interest in as an idea clearly.
Whether you believe it is even a problem or not, it is still false.

, because in the absence of slut-shaming incels would most likely get laid

just fucking lol

Well it was paraphrasing a proposed hypothesis/theme

The issue is that sexually free women ruthlessly select for top tier bone structure. It's only in societies that don't subsidize women financially and shame them for slutting around that lower tier bone structure producers get laid.

If slut shaming was completely absent, Chad would get a ton more sex. That's all.

yes I'm aware

The sexual revolution started in a time when nearly everyone would eventually end up married (>97%). It was sold as everyone, not just women, having a larger pool of pre-marital sex partners. It was never framed as a replacement for societal normalcy, but rather as an addition; “you can still get married, but you don’t have to because there’s another way.” Everyone was still expecting to meet a wife and marry in their early 20’s, but along the way they could have sex with numerous partners. The modern dating world, where 14% of millennial men are sexless and women don’t marry until they’re in their 30’s, is the result.

Women’s liberation was sold to the public in the exact same context. The majority of women were housewives. They where promised that they could be a housewife or work; have their cake and eat it too. Now single income households are usually impoverished households.

Bingo

It's way more than 14%. Half of millennial and gen z men did not have sex last year.

Source?

Well more women entered the workforce when inflation made it necessary to do so. The liberation aspect wanted to close the societal gaps.

"After the sexual revolution everyone will be able to enjoy casual sex"
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Women have to sometimes placate men so that our lives aren't in constant danger.

If misleading men is what it takes for women to live in a sexually free society, then doing so is morally neutral at worst.

What a twisted way of thinking, btw you missed the word "ugly" after the first "men"

If you'd just come fourth with how much of a horrible and stupid person you are, you could live in a sexually free society, it turns out misleading someone actually misleads them, who knew?

!retard!<

MRAGCGAN

Nice try.

hahah ikr oh man some of the people on here

Casual sex is a fucking demon destroying society and the family structure tho

How so

It's destroyed purity for marriage and thrown the idea of pair bonding out the window. Westerners are really crazy if they think that this hedonistic chaos is better than having a fulfilling marriage with kids.

Yea youre right

you're braindead lmao

Not as braindead as throwing away the basis of human civilization and throwing society into an egalitarian nightmare in return to make your weewee feel good every once in a while without having to stick around.

That assumes that you can find a willing wife tho, and most of us here cannot

I'm from a country with arranged marriages where we shame loose women so cya loosers 😎😎😎

That would explain your views on marriage then.

That’s nothing to be proud of, dude.

Guaranteeing the right to reproduce is bad? Nigga that's basically the basis for civilization.

Nigga shaming women because they’re doing what you wish you could is bd

I guess we should just let people fuck each other until we all go crazy. The world is ending, why not have an orgy right?

Because free will is not such a big deal, amirite? If guys do it, no one cares but if women do it, the world is about to end. Get a grip on yourself man.

It's wrong if men do it too but it's not such a problem because women control access to sex.

So they control access but are to be shamed if they use their „power“? That’s bullshit.

Your defense of casual sex and the death of the family is deeply troubling.

No one stops you from having a family, there’s pleanty of women out there for you. But your demands that people are not allowed to do whatever they want to because you can’t deal with the way how the world is changing and your failure to adapt to that change properly is even worse. It’s none of your business what people are doing in their bedrooms.

The world is changing and not for the better. We don't live in vacuums. We are all part of a society and our actions determine what actions will be seen as correct. We need to act morally.

The world is turning not to the better? This is the longest period of time in human history with relative peace. The poorest are becoming a tad wealthier, more people are learning how to read and write, everyday there’s been steps made to fight the deadliest diseases. The world is becoming a better place, you have the impression that the exact opposite is happening because of the permanent stream of information through the internet 24/7. And besides that, who are you to define what’s morally right? You come up with morals, values and traditions if you can benefit from those things. The only people who seem to have a problem with casual sex is apparently a bunch of dudes who never happened to have had sex A minority. Don’t come with morals and family values while you call people betabux and make fun of their marriage. People have fought wars, were killed and suffered to have this amount of freedom they do have now but a bunch of unsatisfied virgins wants to destroy everything because they can’t get some action. This is not only ridiculous but a whole new level of egocentricity.

No, they thinks it's better than a crappy marriage with someone you never wanted but your parents pressured you into marrying.

Not the way it works, sweetie.

Of course it is. Lots of people still have happy marriages. People who couldn't pair bond, never did, they stayed together and made their spouse miserable because of social pressure.

You're not forced into arranged marriages. They're arranged, then you two get to choose to marry or not.

There's a lot of social pressure and if you're parents pay for your brothers to go to University and only pay for finishing school for you, while telling you that nothing is as fantastic as motherhood, what do you do? It's too late to change your mind after the maternal feelings fail to kick in.

It's a number of things, not just casual sex.

I think casual sex is a big part of it.

Marxism, Feminism, Multiculturalism, Islamisation, Mass immigration, Affirmative action, Diversity hiring, insane gender theories, Identity politics. All cancers. All killing the host. Take your pick.

Do you even know what Marxism is?

Gtfo commie.

Probably more than you do. Read the Gulag Archipelago or watch Yuri Bezmenov: Deception was my job.

Orwell was a communist, you know? He fought along the anarcho-syndicalists in catalonia against the fascists.

Then barely escaped with his life when the communists began purging their own while Franco's forces were encircling them. Read homage to Catalonia.

Sexual Marxism is a core component of our beliefs

Bro, how is Islam responsible whatsoever for the downfall of western society and the advent of casual sex? Blame Feminism for this shit

Islam is a cancer. Muslims are so triggered they slaughter cartoonists, attack American embassies because of a Danish cartoon and shot up half of Benghazi because of some dumb low budget films. Muslim men have also abused underage white girls in Britain on an industrial scale.

How is this related to the incel discussion or how Islam is responsible for all those woes in the West? I'm not saying there aren't some loonies amongst the religion (there's plenty!) though most Muslims who subscribe to the teachings of Islam are compassionate and do integrate into society. I'm not talking about savage migrants who do not assimilate.

Anyways, blame Feminism and your government for break down of Western culture, leave Islam out of this.

We're coming for Islam. Depending on the blood price to defeat its grip on the west i might well consider its TOTAL erasure from the world and history all together.

Omg why are you blaming us for the constant terrorist attacks just because they are entirely carried out by muslims and have been happening for a thousand years doesn't mean nothing

Hmm

I hope you mean 4th wave feminism, you know, the crazy-coloured-hair, all-men-are-rapists-by-birth-lunatics.

Feminism is cancer. I don't give a shit what wave it is.

Your comment is Aids then

We have Africans fucking monkeys and homosexuals to thank for that.

And apparently you too. Your sole contribution to the world.

Fuck off, alt-rightcel.

Heil hitler.

But industrial capitalist production started the downfall of "the family" by reducing the role of father figures way before the sexual revolution even started.

I agree

True. This is why I think societies need to keep traditions strong to keep sight of what's important: family. Industry and economy should serve us, but it seems to be going the other way around now.

That sounds like something someone would say when they're not getting casual sex.

Spoiler alert: its pretty nice.

lol

You aren't getting any either. At least, nowhere near as much as much as the average roastie is getting.

Lol ok

Im not one of y'all

You sure as fuck aren't Chad either, seeing how you spend your time shitposting on an incel forum.

Lol this post was on r/all, yall are just real easy to rile up

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“Family structure”

You mean where a good, handsome Chad finds a willing, submissive Stacy to settle down and have children, who they hope don’t turn into incels?

And where most incels are created. Either being raised by a single mom or a roastie that married a week man after her fun.

raised by a single mom

My mother used to invite Chad over on Friday nights and I'd have to hear them fucking a few rooms over while terrified that he was hurting her and intending to hurt me next. The same woman taught me to be a meek submissive beta and forbade me from involvement in any activities which could have led to me gaining a male role model. My only childhood exposure to men was through an abusive stepfather and TV shows. Just lol at being raised by a single mother. It never began.

The pink sock

Complaining about Tinder not working for ugly people is like complaining about being unable to eat soup with a fork.

Wrong tool.

I'm all ears if you have a better solution

Rope

I second this

Make your life revolve around something else than the lack of intimacy

just play with lego bro

Fuck you.

Make your life revolve around sucking my cock you gay cuck.

No thanks

So you have nothing, cool

I probably still have more than you guys do, fight me

The way you worded it made it sound like you have a solution to the lack of intimacy problem but instead you just said something retarded

and I'd win easy in a fight against you normal

I had a solution: focus on something else, something more positive, that attracts other people and may lead to intimacy

I already do focus on other stuff and no it doesnt help

the legendary analogist is nowhere to be seen!

the legendary analogist is nowhere to be seen!

I agree except change people to men.

It's over.tinder only works for the elites.. we should ban it in america

I think some people are missing the point. We live in an age where women can have sex and not worry about getting pregnant. In theory, this would mean sex would be taken less seriously and people would be having more sex, but the end result, and I'm not the first to point this out, is something like 20% of the population is having the extra sex, while the rest have not seen any change or effect. Maybe someday the rest of us who are not part of the sexual revolution will have our own robot girlfriends, but right now we do not live in that future world where nobody is denied sex or a life partner to help increase their quality of life.

Tinder is more for hookups so it's more shallow than other dating apps. Try a different one

Everything can be for hookups when you're Chad

But you're not chad so get over it and find a site that works for you

There are no sites that work for sub 8 males

What qualifies someone as Chad?

Hahahaha

more shallow

All online dating websites & apps are shallow, retard.

I've had many many different types of fake accounts on both tinder and other sites. I noticed no real difference, other than there's MORE casual stuff on tinder, but the other type can be found as well.

lolll

The statistics actually say that 20% of men share 60% of the female population so it's far worse than just extra sex.

Interesting! Source?

Not everyone....

No one ever said that, or thought that for that matter.

The problem is not that you are ugly, but you have no qualities that interest them. Or like myself, just didn't fill it out. Barely got any likes in years. Went on 3 dates in many years. And a few more from OKC. It was always random.

But in the end, most of my likes were heavily overweight.

The problem is not that you are ugly, but you have no qualities that interest them.

I'm not claiming to be the most interesting man in the world but I have plenty of hobbies and things I enjoy talking about

Sexual revolition + smartphones = (its bad)

Casual sex and dating was promoted for the destruction of family unit.

I have a fantastic content on why casual sex and dating are wrong.I could post it but as usual quality content never makes it to front page.

If you guys want to see it then reply in comments ,I could post it.

Haha biggest lie ever!

everyone will be able to enjoy casual sex

More like: 20&#37; of men and 80&#37; of women.

LOL there was a guy on TV who explained that this is truly what they thought in the 60s but even in the hippie camps it quickly became apparent that the top 10&#37; were getting most of that love.

link?

Can't link to TV.

If that is the case, then the government should allow assisted suicide for all incels.

It's destroyed purity for marriage and thrown the idea of pair bonding out the window. Westerners are really crazy if they think that this hedonistic chaos is better than having a fulfilling marriage with kids.

If we all had equal opportunity prostitution would be legal This issue is no different than any economic issue, goverment regulations keep people from having equal opportunities. So many dirtbag commies and statists on reddit. Get rid of the state and you will have full freedom to solve your problems

just play with lego bro

Fuck you.

Make your life revolve around sucking my cock you gay cuck.

So you have nothing, cool

I probably still have more than you guys do, fight me

No one stops you from having a family, there’s pleanty of women out there for you. But your demands that people are not allowed to do whatever they want to because you can’t deal with the way how the world is changing and your failure to adapt to that change properly is even worse. It’s none of your business what people are doing in their bedrooms.