Are you retarded I’m 3/4 circumcised because of medical reason when I was 8 and I still remember the most brutal pain I’ve ever experienced peeing like an hour after. It’s literally the only thing I remembe from that age and it HURTS LIKE A FUCKING BITCH U WOULDNT EVEN BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT PUSSY FAGGOT SOYCUCK
Circumcision there is usually done as a baby, but when it’s not it’s done as a coming of age ceremony. I’m not joking, you get your dick chopped in the morning and there’s a little party for you afterwards with donuts
Oh yeah I suppose if you clip an infants fingers off it would not traumatize them in any way, no sir. They wouldn't remember it afterall.
Studies have shown the opposite btw. Trauma in infancy can lead to higher rates of mental illness as an adult
I really dont understand how docs can say that circ causes no trauma, yet common sense is that you shouldnt put babies through a hell of a pain, or else you fuck up their brains.
I've never been able to get past the fact that wealthy people cut off a good portion of my dick for money, before I even had a chance to live.
I realized on my own what had been done do me and the significance of it since about the age of ten. Not a single day has gone by where I haven't at least for one brief moment become emotional over the injustice and egregiousness of the act of cutting off baby boy's penises (I'm on the smaller side too, so the last thing I needed was to have even less skin down there).
This really was the event which most fundamentally pitted me against society.
A lot of times it's done for "religious" reasons, although in the US it's become a thing for "cleanliness" reasons.
They should be left alone. The foreskin is there for a fucking reason. The only reason something should be done with it is if there is a medical reason to have something done.
I know, and it hurts the little buggers too. Plus there's a chance of things going wrong- open wound and dirty nappy is just asking for trouble really.
Circumcised Male, I couldn't possibly imagine being more sensitive than I am already. Maybe middle ground to prevent the foreskin choking your dong but enough left to feel stuff?
When confronted with this by the Urologist we were presented with two options: 1) Circumcision. 2) "Training" the foreskin by stretching it.
Option 1 would be an operation and cause 2 weeks of discomfort while the other would take years and still leave me at a risk for having infections due to that medical condition.
We choose option 1 and I don't regret it one bit. So yes it can be a matter of health. Maybe it doesn't happen often but it's still something that you have to consider.
Are you referring to circumcision on boys at a young age based on religious/other beliefs or are you talking adult circumcision based on preference?
Because the former, I agree, shouldn't be legal. The latter, however, I have no problem with. Adults can make their own choices regarding their body. It's none of my business how a man looks like down there, if he made that decision as an adult for himself if that's what he likes.
This is what happened to me and is what happens in most cases of circumcision (at least in the west).
Well that sucks. What ethnicity/religion if I may ask?
And regarding your original argument, I wouldn't say that no one cares about the issue. Many people do. The problem is that some cultures/ethnic groups genuinely believe that it's still the correct and good thing to do.
No one is "born" with phimosis. This happens when the foreskin is pulled back before it's ready to retract. You see, as a baby your foreskin is fused to the glans, similar to how your fingernails are held on. This is to protect it from feces and urine and shit. It doesn't start retracting until later in life when he child is much older.
Most parents do not know this, so they forcefully pull the skin back. Causing problems, chief among them is phimosis.
Yes, there are medical problems but those are very rare.
I actually hadn't bothered to read into the subject in the past years so I wasn't too informed, I simply recalled what the Urologist told me at 8/9 years old. But I did catch up on that a bit now. Thanks, I actually learned something.
Yeah, my wife is pregnant so we did a lot of research into it just in case we were having a boy. I'm VERY against it, and she was for but that changed after we researched it. Its pretty fucked.
No problem dude, the more you know! Im pretty bitter about it (it happened to me even I was a baby) so if I can educate people on the unnecessity of it, then I'm all too happy to do so.
It’s only a matter of health in places where clean running water can be hard to find. For those people, maybe circumcising actually is a good option. For the vast majority of places where circumcisions happen that isn’t the case
The main reason it became popular in the USA was that it was thought that masturbation turned a healthy person into a sickly, sex-obsessed one.
So they started it as an attempt to prevent young boys from masturbating, then it ended up being an aesthetic thing.
Now its a moneymaking thing, pushed by jewish owned hospitals who insist its required for the baby to be healthy. Every baby ends up profiting a hospital $1500 or more for the procedure, easy money.
a long time ago it was considered sanitary, but now that we have soap it isn't neccesary, around 200a.d. they started cutting like 75% off to assimilate with the greeks or god knows what, I've heard from pen and teller kids get parts of their dick snipped off sometimes and that most women prefer girth.
Just lol at cutting off part of your dick because it's "cleaner", when the only (((scientific studies))) that support it are ones that have conditions that specify things like not showering for two weeks and shit.
It's hilarious. Roasties and their cuck white knights scream "get your hands off our body" "my body my decision" but turn around and cut off part of their baby's penis for aesthetic reasons
Never thought of it like this before now. I’m open to changing my opinion, and I have a ton of questions if someone is willing to have a polite conversation.
So you try to promote women's reproductive rights and you think it's good to circumcise only male babies? What's your logic. Genuinely interested. Definitely don't want to be impolite or anything
This. People are free to do whatever they want to their bods, but leave the babies alone. When will humanity get this. Fucking r/aboringdystopia material.
I bet you did when you were a baby. You should have been nestled safely in your mother arms. Instead, you were strapped down to a board, having the most sensitive part of your body operated on without anesthesia, while you screamed in pain. Imagine the terror. A newborn has no concept that it's for its own good or that the doctor can be trusted. It's a brutal violation of its body. What a way to welcome a being into the world. Really sets the stage for happy, care free life.
And, yeah, there are studies that show that physical trauma to an infant can permanently alter the structure of its brain.
You really have no idea what it has done to you. Hey, but that's okay, because you don't see anything wrong with it.
They look weird because you're used to your own. Circumcised would look weird to you if you hadn't been. How can that not be obvious to you? Go to Europe and see if the women like your dick.
Thats just the way things are done now and if it means it only hurts babies who wont even give it a second thought for the rest of their life, it sounds fine to me.
The affect it has on ur brain is probably from repeated abuse
If I were to actually have children (I'm not) I would be faced with a dilemma when it comes to male circumcision.
I personally think the act is disgusting and completely inhumane, however since it is so popular I have also read stories about boys/men in America wishing they were circumcised because they were made fun of for not being circumcised.
I wouldn't want to cut a part of my child off from birth but I also wouldn't want to put him in a situation where he is shamed or made fun of by his peers.
I would spend a lot of time on forums asking men what they thought about it before making that choice. My first instinct is to not cut, but I would be open to changing my mind. Would also heavily consider the father's opinion, since he would know better than myself.
It's not a tough choice. If he wants to mutilate himself, let him do it on his own time.
That's like saying "I will face a dilemma - do I kill my son because he might be suicidal, or do I let him live and potentially suffer from depression?"
I said my first instinct is to NOT cut and that I think its completely inhumane. I just dont believe its completely black and white, especially since another parent with another opinion would be involved. However I would hope my partner would be on the same page.
I guess headlining my comment with the word "dilemma" was a wrong choice.
Yeah, and I was criticizing your - it's very black and white. If he hates his foreskin, he can always remove it. If he hates his, I dunno, arm, he can always cut it off too (yes - there are people out there with masochistic desires to mutilate their bodies, that doesn't mean you should cut off his arm in the offchance that he has it).
Yeah, I hear ya. You're not wrong at all and I appreciate the opinion.
My original comment was just exploring the side of the equation that someone may use to promote circumcision. Its not the side I am on. However I am open to hearing about why someone would want to circumcise their child.
The reason I say it isn't black and white is because there are people out there with different opinions than my own. Just because I think its completely wrong doesn't make it completely wrong, no matter how much I would like that.
How in the fuck would he be made fun of by his peers? Just don't. The people making up those stories about "being made fun of" are liars and probably roasties trying to trick women into mutilating their children.
This is what I would like to hear, more opinions from men on the matter.
I think circumcision is completely wrong.
But, I have heard that men have been made fun of for having their foreskin. I've seen men be glad they don't have a foreskin. I've seen men devastated they don't have a foreskin. I've seen men wishing they were circumcised and too scared to go through the procedure as an adult.
Of course most of these instances were online so I don't know their validity.
But, I have heard that men have been made fun of for having their foreskin. I've seen men be glad they don't have a foreskin. I've seen men devastated they don't have a foreskin. I've seen men wishing they were circumcised and too scared to go through the procedure as an adult.
don't you think this is an instance of the brainwashing regarding circumcision? imagine if female genital mutilation was common practice and it was a social norm and regarded as normal. it would be ridiculous to argue for fgm citing it being a social norm. wouldn't it make more sense to change attitudes regarding it and abolish the standards that make it commonplace in the first place altogether?
There is a lot of social brainwashing surrounding the matter. Its difficult to know what to think when a man says he is happy to be cut. Is he just brainwashed or is his opinion genuine?
Surely if FGM was as widespread and accepted in America many women would think they are happy to be circumcised because that's what they are told looks correct.
so you'd excuse an irreversible act you describe as "disgusting and completely inhumane" just on the basis of a hypothetical future scenario where your kid might get bullied that may or may not happen?
But like I said, Im just open to hearing other's thoughts on the matter.
I like staying open-minded about everything, particularly when the matter goes against something I consider a strong value. I think its beneficial as a human to remain open to discussion even when the chance of opinion conversion is nearly zero.
At the very least if I had a child and decided to not circumcise him I would be prepared to help him in a situation where he may face scrutiny later in life. I would be able to raise him better knowing what he may face as an uncircumcised man in America.
I grew up a minority heavy area in the United States, over 50% of them for sure were uncircumcised. You cut off a whole bunch of nerve endings and expose the glands, damaging their senstivity over time, as well as make skin much more restricted. For some much of Europe, which doesn't circumcise, hasn't experienced a penis crisis
My bad I just don't like the idea of having my genitals mutilated because of a culturally enforced idea of an aesthetic from narcissistic religious fanatics.
Look how tenaciously people argue for circumcision for no other reason that they have one. That's all it takes, no Jewish conspiracy needed. Plenty of doctors who aren't Jewish perform circumcision.
My bad I just don't like the idea of having my genitals mutilated because of a culturally enforced idea of an aesthetic from narcissistic religious fanatics.
what's bad is that they aren't willing to change it seems, I didn't get cut but I really am disturbed by the fact of not having my foreskin
they use it to make skin grafts, dude I don't want my foreskin on someone's face especially not like that, I've even heard some people say that it's not worthy of being called mutilation, I really wish we could stop this attitude towards it, like really is there any reason to actually do it? like any actual reason? making it easier to clean is dumb because it's really not hard to clean and you don't need to cut off skin to do that, less diseases doesn't work either because in places where this is more common stds are more common, religious reasons are also invalid to me because that's hurting someone who cannot consent (which is a reason to not have this done for any person that is less than 18 years old), man really I don't see any reason why it could be good
I have a son. I am vehemently against circumcision. How can I tout bodily autonomy and then make that kind of decision for him? I can't, that's sick. He was born perfect exactly the way he is and there is zero need for any part of him to be cut off. If he wants to make that decision when he's older, that's between him and his doctor. Routine infant circumcision should definitely be banned. I have heard so many stories in mom groups of little boys needing second third or fourth surgeries because their foreskin kept growing back and adhering to the glans. So, so sad. I would never knowingly want to put my kid through that. It's just fucked up. The good news is that it's getting less and less common. It's still seen as the "default" but in many areas of the US it's about 50/50.
But you know that circumcision for girls is a thing too, right? Cutting of the clitoris without anesthesia as a baby, being in constant pain for the rest of their lives, especially when they have intercourse or giving birth? That is proof that the world doesnt give a shit about women.
Adult circumcision is different from routine infant circumcision. Its nice youre happy with your circumcision, but many men resent the fact that the decision was forced upon them. Furthermore cutting an infant is more damaging than cutting an adult. The infant can't even retract his foreskin yet, so circumcision damages the head. With adults there is no issue, as the dick has pretty much fully grown too. I also know guys with botched circumcisions. The docs dont know how big your dick is going to get, so there is a chance he cuts too much off of the infants penis.
And now everyone that seen the top page will look through comment history and see this little number haha ;) but seriously it’s not a big deal glad you are open about it
Yeah, and I was criticizing your - it's very black and white. If he hates his foreskin, he can always remove it. If he hates his, I dunno, arm, he can always cut it off too (yes - there are people out there with masochistic desires to mutilate their bodies, that doesn't mean you should cut off his arm in the offchance that he has it).
This is what I would like to hear, more opinions from men on the matter.
I think circumcision is completely wrong.
But, I have heard that men have been made fun of for having their foreskin. I've seen men be glad they don't have a foreskin. I've seen men devastated they don't have a foreskin. I've seen men wishing they were circumcised and too scared to go through the procedure as an adult.
Of course most of these instances were online so I don't know their validity.
This. People are free to do whatever they want to their bods, but leave the babies alone. When will humanity get this. Fucking r/aboringdystopia material.
They look weird because you're used to your own. Circumcised would look weird to you if you hadn't been. How can that not be obvious to you? Go to Europe and see if the women like your dick.
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1 ChromeHomeDome 2018-05-20
It doesn’t hurt you. Sure it’s unnecessary and takes pleasure away but doesn’t actually hurt.
1 dumb_intj 2018-05-20
Then why do babies scream in pain when the most sensitive part of their genitals are forcibly removed?
inb4 "if you cant remember it it didn't happen XD"
1 ChromeHomeDome 2018-05-20
If you can’t remember it it didn’t happen. That’s the concept of pain, isn’t it?
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-20
So if I drug and rape a woman then it never happened because she can't remember it
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-20
Seems legit
1 El_Tigrex 2018-05-20
Woah bro why you jumping to rape so fast all he's talking about is mutilating a baby
1 1122334wy 2018-05-20
tell that to the people who lost their dicks because of botched circumcisions
1 Chadbutblackpilled 2018-05-20
Are you retarded I’m 3/4 circumcised because of medical reason when I was 8 and I still remember the most brutal pain I’ve ever experienced peeing like an hour after. It’s literally the only thing I remembe from that age and it HURTS LIKE A FUCKING BITCH U WOULDNT EVEN BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT PUSSY FAGGOT SOYCUCK
1 PM_ME_TENDIE_STORIES 2018-05-20
I know a Korean dude who was circumicised at puberty. Apparently he couldn't masturbate for 8 months because of the pain.
1 SignorSolitudine 2018-05-20
Same things happen in some parts of Indonesia
Circumcision there is usually done as a baby, but when it’s not it’s done as a coming of age ceremony. I’m not joking, you get your dick chopped in the morning and there’s a little party for you afterwards with donuts
1 DrillWormBazookaMan 2018-05-20
Gotta be a troll or an idiot.
1 HydradenitisSuppura 2018-05-20
Oh yeah I suppose if you clip an infants fingers off it would not traumatize them in any way, no sir. They wouldn't remember it afterall. Studies have shown the opposite btw. Trauma in infancy can lead to higher rates of mental illness as an adult
1 eyewant 2018-05-20
I really dont understand how docs can say that circ causes no trauma, yet common sense is that you shouldnt put babies through a hell of a pain, or else you fuck up their brains.
1 dumb_intj 2018-05-20
What's circumcision? Do you mean Male Genital Mutilation?
1 spicy_fries 2018-05-20
The most evil thing is the world is killing a baby.
Just below that is clipping a baby's dick. What kind of sick fuck would do that?
1 Mr-Mercedes- 2018-05-20
Honestly I wish they would have just killed me.
I've never been able to get past the fact that wealthy people cut off a good portion of my dick for money, before I even had a chance to live.
I realized on my own what had been done do me and the significance of it since about the age of ten. Not a single day has gone by where I haven't at least for one brief moment become emotional over the injustice and egregiousness of the act of cutting off baby boy's penises (I'm on the smaller side too, so the last thing I needed was to have even less skin down there).
This really was the event which most fundamentally pitted me against society.
1 ShrekSouffle 2018-05-20
No offense, but it’s really not that big of a deal. Nearly all guys, myself included, don’t give a shit.
1 jacques4801 2018-05-20
Thank you! I thought I was the only one. Niggas are being dramatic as fuck for no reason 🙄
1 yaogauiasaurus 2018-05-20
I refused to have my son circumsised. Just seems unnatural to me. So I'm going to go ahead and give myself a pat on the back.
1 MagratM 2018-05-20
A lot of times it's done for "religious" reasons, although in the US it's become a thing for "cleanliness" reasons.
They should be left alone. The foreskin is there for a fucking reason. The only reason something should be done with it is if there is a medical reason to have something done.
1 A1C_SubZero 2018-05-20
False
1 PM_ME_TENDIE_STORIES 2018-05-20
The Jewish doctors convinced everyone that it was good for their health as a means to normalize their deviant, backwards religious practices.
1 MagratM 2018-05-20
It's a barbaric practice that should be stamped out.
1 suicidal-pothead 2018-05-20
Right. And it's not even hard to keep it clean lmao, so I don't know why people use that point.
1 MagratM 2018-05-20
Plus it deadens the sensation a lot because the glans is permanently exposed and rubbing on clothing and stuff, so it makes sex feel different.
1 suicidal-pothead 2018-05-20
Right. Gosh its such a shitty practice, but I don't think it will ever go away. I'm not against it if you want it, but fuck, it's a baby.
1 MagratM 2018-05-20
I know, and it hurts the little buggers too. Plus there's a chance of things going wrong- open wound and dirty nappy is just asking for trouble really.
1 Marcadius_ 2018-05-20
Circumcised Male, I couldn't possibly imagine being more sensitive than I am already. Maybe middle ground to prevent the foreskin choking your dong but enough left to feel stuff?
1 MagratM 2018-05-20
A normal foreskin won't choke anything.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-20
Half-blind human here, I couldn't possibly imagine seeing more than I already do.
1 sabadr 2018-05-20
But labia isnt there for a reason so all women should get a labia plasty teheee
1 MadManMonkey 2018-05-20
Well sometimes its a matter of health, tho
1 A1C_SubZero 2018-05-20
Very rarely, if ever.
1 I_DIG_ASTOLFO 2018-05-20
I was born with Phimosis (NSFW).
When confronted with this by the Urologist we were presented with two options: 1) Circumcision. 2) "Training" the foreskin by stretching it.
Option 1 would be an operation and cause 2 weeks of discomfort while the other would take years and still leave me at a risk for having infections due to that medical condition.
We choose option 1 and I don't regret it one bit. So yes it can be a matter of health. Maybe it doesn't happen often but it's still something that you have to consider.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-20
Obviously, if you need to be circumcised, then you should. I was referring to those that were circumcised for the hell of it.
1 I_DIG_ASTOLFO 2018-05-20
I mean, for the hell of it?
Are you referring to circumcision on boys at a young age based on religious/other beliefs or are you talking adult circumcision based on preference?
Because the former, I agree, shouldn't be legal. The latter, however, I have no problem with. Adults can make their own choices regarding their body. It's none of my business how a man looks like down there, if he made that decision as an adult for himself if that's what he likes.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-20
Yes, this is what I am referring to. This is what happened to me and is what happens in most cases of circumcision (at least in the west).
1 I_DIG_ASTOLFO 2018-05-20
Well that sucks. What ethnicity/religion if I may ask?
And regarding your original argument, I wouldn't say that no one cares about the issue. Many people do. The problem is that some cultures/ethnic groups genuinely believe that it's still the correct and good thing to do.
1 A1C_SubZero 2018-05-20
I know a lot about circumcission actually.
Phimosis happens, but it's pretty fucking rare if the peepee is taken care of properly.
How old were you?
1 the_left_is_stupid 2018-05-20
I had phimosis as a kid!
Applied Eleuphrat cream (sp?) to the dick and pulled it back a little each day. No stress.
It’s like extracting all your teeth because you’re worried you might need a filling.
1 A1C_SubZero 2018-05-20
No one is "born" with phimosis. This happens when the foreskin is pulled back before it's ready to retract. You see, as a baby your foreskin is fused to the glans, similar to how your fingernails are held on. This is to protect it from feces and urine and shit. It doesn't start retracting until later in life when he child is much older.
Most parents do not know this, so they forcefully pull the skin back. Causing problems, chief among them is phimosis.
Yes, there are medical problems but those are very rare.
1 I_DIG_ASTOLFO 2018-05-20
I actually hadn't bothered to read into the subject in the past years so I wasn't too informed, I simply recalled what the Urologist told me at 8/9 years old. But I did catch up on that a bit now. Thanks, I actually learned something.
1 A1C_SubZero 2018-05-20
Yeah, my wife is pregnant so we did a lot of research into it just in case we were having a boy. I'm VERY against it, and she was for but that changed after we researched it. Its pretty fucked.
No problem dude, the more you know! Im pretty bitter about it (it happened to me even I was a baby) so if I can educate people on the unnecessity of it, then I'm all too happy to do so.
1 timoppenheimer 2018-05-20
how old were you?
were you forcibly retracted prior to this?
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-05-20
Keyword sometimes
That doesn't excuse the countless other times it's done for no other reason than retarded "tradition"
1 SignorSolitudine 2018-05-20
No it’s not
It’s only a matter of health in places where clean running water can be hard to find. For those people, maybe circumcising actually is a good option. For the vast majority of places where circumcisions happen that isn’t the case
1 HydradenitisSuppura 2018-05-20
Not even then. Circumcision was pushed as a "aids prevention" in africa and it did nothing but make the problem worse.
1 MadManMonkey 2018-05-20
Acctually my foreskin was to small for my head to fit through confortably. So for me it was medically
1 I_DIG_ASTOLFO 2018-05-20
Phimosis is the term
1 GuyFromDaStore 2018-05-20
The main reason it became popular in the USA was that it was thought that masturbation turned a healthy person into a sickly, sex-obsessed one.
So they started it as an attempt to prevent young boys from masturbating, then it ended up being an aesthetic thing.
Now its a moneymaking thing, pushed by jewish owned hospitals who insist its required for the baby to be healthy. Every baby ends up profiting a hospital $1500 or more for the procedure, easy money.
1 thumpar72 2018-05-20
i wanna puke
1 ayobeslim 2018-05-20
a long time ago it was considered sanitary, but now that we have soap it isn't neccesary, around 200a.d. they started cutting like 75% off to assimilate with the greeks or god knows what, I've heard from pen and teller kids get parts of their dick snipped off sometimes and that most women prefer girth.
1 niveasoftt 2018-05-20
Just lol at cutting off part of your dick because it's "cleaner", when the only (((scientific studies))) that support it are ones that have conditions that specify things like not showering for two weeks and shit.
1 Korangar_Begins 2018-05-20
No, it's evidence that religion and tradition have a stronger grip over people's opinions and government policy than common sense.
1 CaligulaWasRight 2018-05-20
Can we sue the doctors who did it? If theirs not a medical reason it is wrong.
1 acoverover1 2018-05-20
The fact that "statutory rape" exists is proof that (((society))) HATES men.
1 Rohn7 2018-05-20
Women who bitch about their "reproductive rights" being taken away, while at the same time 100% endorse penis mutilation are the pinnacle of feminism
1 SmellyDanglyLabia 2018-05-20
It's hilarious. Roasties and their cuck white knights scream "get your hands off our body" "my body my decision" but turn around and cut off part of their baby's penis for aesthetic reasons
So damn hypocritical
1 JarlPaul 2018-05-20
cucktears brigading? How is this getting downvoted?
1 quakins 2018-05-20
The labia guy is a troll account
1 keythrowaway2 2018-05-20
Do women really do this? I've never actually seen it. It's definitely fun to get angry about the idea of it though.
1 AnodyneIntrospection 2018-05-20
Yes they do.
Source: Am female, and do this.
Never thought of it like this before now. I’m open to changing my opinion, and I have a ton of questions if someone is willing to have a polite conversation.
1 keythrowaway2 2018-05-20
So you try to promote women's reproductive rights and you think it's good to circumcise only male babies? What's your logic. Genuinely interested. Definitely don't want to be impolite or anything
1 timoppenheimer 2018-05-20
find me on google hangouts (tim oppenheimer, image of ezra miller) if you want to talk about this in a hangout
1 INCELIUS-DANKUS 2018-05-20
You should specify child circumcision, people should be allowed to circumcise themselves as an adult
1 eyewant 2018-05-20
This. People are free to do whatever they want to their bods, but leave the babies alone. When will humanity get this. Fucking r/aboringdystopia material.
1 01101111_01110111 2018-05-20
Im circumsized and i dont see anything wrong with it
1 eowsley8 2018-05-20
that's because you're that way, and because I'm not, I do see things wrong with it
1 balloonanusanimals 2018-05-20
I bet you did when you were a baby. You should have been nestled safely in your mother arms. Instead, you were strapped down to a board, having the most sensitive part of your body operated on without anesthesia, while you screamed in pain. Imagine the terror. A newborn has no concept that it's for its own good or that the doctor can be trusted. It's a brutal violation of its body. What a way to welcome a being into the world. Really sets the stage for happy, care free life.
And, yeah, there are studies that show that physical trauma to an infant can permanently alter the structure of its brain.
You really have no idea what it has done to you. Hey, but that's okay, because you don't see anything wrong with it.
1 01101111_01110111 2018-05-20
Lol Im glad they did it tho. Uncircumcised dicks look weird af. Most girls wont do anything if it isnt
1 balloonanusanimals 2018-05-20
They look weird because you're used to your own. Circumcised would look weird to you if you hadn't been. How can that not be obvious to you? Go to Europe and see if the women like your dick.
1 01101111_01110111 2018-05-20
Thats just the way things are done now and if it means it only hurts babies who wont even give it a second thought for the rest of their life, it sounds fine to me.
The affect it has on ur brain is probably from repeated abuse
1 balloonanusanimals 2018-05-20
Okay, so hurting babies is no longer wrong. Gotcha.
1 01101111_01110111 2018-05-20
Lol yup, just hurt all the babies bro, thats my point here
1 Luna_Tuna_456 2018-05-20
A lot of nerve endings cut off for one
1 MyGrumpyVag 2018-05-20
If I were to actually have children (I'm not) I would be faced with a dilemma when it comes to male circumcision.
I personally think the act is disgusting and completely inhumane, however since it is so popular I have also read stories about boys/men in America wishing they were circumcised because they were made fun of for not being circumcised.
I wouldn't want to cut a part of my child off from birth but I also wouldn't want to put him in a situation where he is shamed or made fun of by his peers.
I would spend a lot of time on forums asking men what they thought about it before making that choice. My first instinct is to not cut, but I would be open to changing my mind. Would also heavily consider the father's opinion, since he would know better than myself.
Luckily I'll never have to make the choice.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-20
It's not a tough choice. If he wants to mutilate himself, let him do it on his own time.
That's like saying "I will face a dilemma - do I kill my son because he might be suicidal, or do I let him live and potentially suffer from depression?"
1 MyGrumpyVag 2018-05-20
Did you read my whole comment?
I said my first instinct is to NOT cut and that I think its completely inhumane. I just dont believe its completely black and white, especially since another parent with another opinion would be involved. However I would hope my partner would be on the same page.
I guess headlining my comment with the word "dilemma" was a wrong choice.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-20
Yeah, and I was criticizing your - it's very black and white. If he hates his foreskin, he can always remove it. If he hates his, I dunno, arm, he can always cut it off too (yes - there are people out there with masochistic desires to mutilate their bodies, that doesn't mean you should cut off his arm in the offchance that he has it).
1 MyGrumpyVag 2018-05-20
Yeah, I hear ya. You're not wrong at all and I appreciate the opinion.
My original comment was just exploring the side of the equation that someone may use to promote circumcision. Its not the side I am on. However I am open to hearing about why someone would want to circumcise their child.
The reason I say it isn't black and white is because there are people out there with different opinions than my own. Just because I think its completely wrong doesn't make it completely wrong, no matter how much I would like that.
1 HydradenitisSuppura 2018-05-20
How in the fuck would he be made fun of by his peers? Just don't. The people making up those stories about "being made fun of" are liars and probably roasties trying to trick women into mutilating their children.
1 MyGrumpyVag 2018-05-20
This is what I would like to hear, more opinions from men on the matter.
I think circumcision is completely wrong.
But, I have heard that men have been made fun of for having their foreskin. I've seen men be glad they don't have a foreskin. I've seen men devastated they don't have a foreskin. I've seen men wishing they were circumcised and too scared to go through the procedure as an adult.
Of course most of these instances were online so I don't know their validity.
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-05-20
don't you think this is an instance of the brainwashing regarding circumcision? imagine if female genital mutilation was common practice and it was a social norm and regarded as normal. it would be ridiculous to argue for fgm citing it being a social norm. wouldn't it make more sense to change attitudes regarding it and abolish the standards that make it commonplace in the first place altogether?
1 MyGrumpyVag 2018-05-20
I completely agree with you.
There is a lot of social brainwashing surrounding the matter. Its difficult to know what to think when a man says he is happy to be cut. Is he just brainwashed or is his opinion genuine?
Surely if FGM was as widespread and accepted in America many women would think they are happy to be circumcised because that's what they are told looks correct.
Im so glad I'm not having kids.
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-05-20
so you'd excuse an irreversible act you describe as "disgusting and completely inhumane" just on the basis of a hypothetical future scenario where your kid might get bullied that may or may not happen?
1 MyGrumpyVag 2018-05-20
Ultimately, no.
But like I said, Im just open to hearing other's thoughts on the matter.
I like staying open-minded about everything, particularly when the matter goes against something I consider a strong value. I think its beneficial as a human to remain open to discussion even when the chance of opinion conversion is nearly zero.
At the very least if I had a child and decided to not circumcise him I would be prepared to help him in a situation where he may face scrutiny later in life. I would be able to raise him better knowing what he may face as an uncircumcised man in America.
1 Luna_Tuna_456 2018-05-20
I grew up a minority heavy area in the United States, over 50% of them for sure were uncircumcised. You cut off a whole bunch of nerve endings and expose the glands, damaging their senstivity over time, as well as make skin much more restricted. For some much of Europe, which doesn't circumcise, hasn't experienced a penis crisis
1 Stoic_Stranger 2018-05-20
I'm happy to have a circumcised penis that doesn't look like a monster.
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-05-20
(((good goy)))
1 ddeet2 2018-05-20
I'm happy to not have my penis mutilated by Jewish doctors trying to normalize their agenda.
1 Stoic_Stranger 2018-05-20
I would love to grab a beer with you and just listen to you talk.
1 balloonanusanimals 2018-05-20
cool it with the anti Semitic remarks
1 ddeet2 2018-05-20
My bad I just don't like the idea of having my genitals mutilated because of a culturally enforced idea of an aesthetic from narcissistic religious fanatics.
1 balloonanusanimals 2018-05-20
Look how tenaciously people argue for circumcision for no other reason that they have one. That's all it takes, no Jewish conspiracy needed. Plenty of doctors who aren't Jewish perform circumcision.
1 ddeet2 2018-05-20
My bad I just don't like the idea of having my genitals mutilated because of a culturally enforced idea of an aesthetic from narcissistic religious fanatics.
1 lonely_suicidal_cel 2018-05-20
The way women defend male genital mutilation is awful. Absolutely fuck all of them.
1 M16-andPregnant 2018-05-20
Only people who care about circumcision are those who aren't circumcised lol
1 eowsley8 2018-05-20
what's bad is that they aren't willing to change it seems, I didn't get cut but I really am disturbed by the fact of not having my foreskin
they use it to make skin grafts, dude I don't want my foreskin on someone's face especially not like that, I've even heard some people say that it's not worthy of being called mutilation, I really wish we could stop this attitude towards it, like really is there any reason to actually do it? like any actual reason? making it easier to clean is dumb because it's really not hard to clean and you don't need to cut off skin to do that, less diseases doesn't work either because in places where this is more common stds are more common, religious reasons are also invalid to me because that's hurting someone who cannot consent (which is a reason to not have this done for any person that is less than 18 years old), man really I don't see any reason why it could be good
1 the_left_is_stupid 2018-05-20
I am SO FUCKING GLAD I wasn’t mutilated.
1 captvic 2018-05-20
I would never rob my son (hypothetically) of sexual pleasure circumcision is awful I can't believe they allow it still.
1 Practical_Fig 2018-05-20
I have a son. I am vehemently against circumcision. How can I tout bodily autonomy and then make that kind of decision for him? I can't, that's sick. He was born perfect exactly the way he is and there is zero need for any part of him to be cut off. If he wants to make that decision when he's older, that's between him and his doctor. Routine infant circumcision should definitely be banned. I have heard so many stories in mom groups of little boys needing second third or fourth surgeries because their foreskin kept growing back and adhering to the glans. So, so sad. I would never knowingly want to put my kid through that. It's just fucked up. The good news is that it's getting less and less common. It's still seen as the "default" but in many areas of the US it's about 50/50.
1 mittrinilli 2018-05-20
cutfags on suicide watch
1 therealjaster 2018-05-20
I dunno, I'm glad I am circumcised... Not just seems gross to me for some reason...
1 Kevioli 2018-05-20
But you know that circumcision for girls is a thing too, right? Cutting of the clitoris without anesthesia as a baby, being in constant pain for the rest of their lives, especially when they have intercourse or giving birth? That is proof that the world doesnt give a shit about women.
1 keythrowaway2 2018-05-20
There's a reason the guys in this thread are single/dating very submissive asian women
1 Kevioli 2018-05-20
Yeah you’re right
1 jacques4801 2018-05-20
I didn’t get circumcised until I was 16. It’s not a big deal at all. 🙄
1 pepman33 2018-05-20
Circumcised your trumpet.
1 eyewant 2018-05-20
Adult circumcision is different from routine infant circumcision. Its nice youre happy with your circumcision, but many men resent the fact that the decision was forced upon them. Furthermore cutting an infant is more damaging than cutting an adult. The infant can't even retract his foreskin yet, so circumcision damages the head. With adults there is no issue, as the dick has pretty much fully grown too. I also know guys with botched circumcisions. The docs dont know how big your dick is going to get, so there is a chance he cuts too much off of the infants penis.
1 Sevendevils777 2018-05-20
And now everyone that seen the top page will look through comment history and see this little number haha ;) but seriously it’s not a big deal glad you are open about it
1 Sevendevils777 2018-05-20
So do you still play the trumpet
1 sabadr 2018-05-20
But female genital mutilation is ok??
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-20
Yeah, and I was criticizing your - it's very black and white. If he hates his foreskin, he can always remove it. If he hates his, I dunno, arm, he can always cut it off too (yes - there are people out there with masochistic desires to mutilate their bodies, that doesn't mean you should cut off his arm in the offchance that he has it).
1 MyGrumpyVag 2018-05-20
This is what I would like to hear, more opinions from men on the matter.
I think circumcision is completely wrong.
But, I have heard that men have been made fun of for having their foreskin. I've seen men be glad they don't have a foreskin. I've seen men devastated they don't have a foreskin. I've seen men wishing they were circumcised and too scared to go through the procedure as an adult.
Of course most of these instances were online so I don't know their validity.
1 eyewant 2018-05-20
This. People are free to do whatever they want to their bods, but leave the babies alone. When will humanity get this. Fucking r/aboringdystopia material.
1 balloonanusanimals 2018-05-20
They look weird because you're used to your own. Circumcised would look weird to you if you hadn't been. How can that not be obvious to you? Go to Europe and see if the women like your dick.
1 MagratM 2018-05-20
A normal foreskin won't choke anything.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-20
Half-blind human here, I couldn't possibly imagine seeing more than I already do.