Women want guys who tower over them. Basically, if she thinks she can take you on in a fight, then you are a genetic abomination in her eyes.

92  2018-05-20 by Hodgey54

45 comments

That slight lean gives it all away, it’s 100% over for framecels.

I wish I was a framecel, I could easily escape incelhood just by going to the gym and eating more...

COPE, that dude on the right could take test and HGH for years of gymcelling and never look anywhere near as big as the dude on the left does. Muscle looks đź’© on a childlike frame.

little guy still frame mogs me

Lel, its over bud

Lincoln Clay young tbh..

Women want guys that mog them in every conceivable way. Height, looks, wealth, social status, strength etc. Maybe it's to make up for the absolute mediocrity of the average women, that perhaps they think their personal dearth can be compensated by letting a superior human fuck them and live vicariously that way. It sounds stupid, sure, but so are most gals when it comes to these things.

Yeah I sort of understand, I get it kind of plays into why most of them prefer to be submissive in the bedroom.

Like Patrice O’Neal famously said

“women don’t want to win. They want winners”

Women who were winners woldn't want an old, fat ugly guy.

Or, you know, maybe its basic biology and evolution in action.

Except the converse doesn't exist. Evolution or biology doesn't state such an immense need to be mogged 24/7 at the expense of personality traits conducive to child rearing. Evolution favors that which creates the most successful offspring, a noncommittal chad going around pumping and dumping (the only guys consistently mogging women so much) doesn't create successful offspring with healthy well being.

In both terms of quality and quantity a committed relationship with a looksmatch is more productive, it's why society has generally been built upon such monogamy for the majority of the populace nearly everywhere in the world for eons.

Cock carouselling and chad chasing, has literally no benefit other than satisfying short term tingles at the expense of long term stability. But because too many women are so fucking stupid they'd rather satisfy their undeveloped self-destructive primitive urges than something more beneficial in every aspect.

It would be as if men just started raping women, ignoring common decency and sacrificing long term stability and societal advancement for a short term nut. Except we can look past primitive sexual pressures because they're destructive, but too many women seem to be too stupid/weak to do the same. Yes, obviously women's variation of this is much less physical and direct, but that has more to do with women being weak than anything else.

Or, you know

just because you put that before your sentence doesn't make what you say any less worthless.

Needing a 6ft tall guy is a social construct. After 16, almost all boys 97% are stronger than every woman.

Yet the feminists demand total equality between all of us.

Feminity is noy mediocrity.

Society can convince you of the opposite but women are (mostly) feminine and men are (mostly) masculine and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

And being masculine is far from 100% genetic luck.

Feminity is not mediocrity.

No, not inherently at all. But when such a large amount of women display it, it can become interchangeable.

Society can convince you of the opposite but women are (mostly) feminine and men are (mostly) masculine and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Yes, true. Not really seeing the relevance but yeah.

I think it's cause they have the baby oven, and babies take a long time to make. So they're out of the game that long. Even chads when they marry, marry down. Women almost always marry up. Which is nature itself. So it's not necessity right or wrong. It just is.

So it's not necessity right or wrong. It just is.

Except it is wrong. They marry based on the bones in the face, the most irrelevant thing to child rearing. They have such an investment so they shouldn't let chad pump and dump.

They're not marrying the bones in the face. They crowd funded the decision of whos best to the guys, and we picked the Alpha. 2,3,4 etc. A lot of normal guys have the advantage of two normal parents and the love and support that that brings. And blind confidence at times. But blind confidence is better than non. Because a at least something gets done in times of distress.

It worked therefore it works. For thousands or millions of years. We were born, so it, or something like it worked for our parents and we benefited from it. (Unless one takes the approach"well I didn't want to be born" gfy)

As well, incels (physically mentally, or emotionally maimed) are no better for long term mates. Some of which are Prone to extreme ups and downs, inability to keep work or prone to extreme spending or physical ailments, addicted to various things including pornography and masturbating, which marriage doesn't fix. The lack of confidence brings on endless issues in a marriage and it's a lot of work to contend with. "What did you mean by that?" becomes the most common conversation every normal person gets sick of. As well the least confident person in a relationship is also prone to cheating, as a way to look for the value they always thought marriage would bring them but didn't.

They crowd funded the decision of whos best to the guys, and we picked the Alpha. 2,3,4 etc. A lot of normal guys have the advantage of two normal parents and the love and support that that brings. And blind confidence at times. But blind confidence is better than non. Because a at least something gets done in times of distress.

This is mostly unintelligible. It sounds like incoherent babbling about archaic prehistoric chads being possibly preferred back then so thats why women get to go for brain dead, irresponsible, violent and aggressive but attractive men now? Idk

It worked therefore it works. For thousands or millions of years. We were born, so it, or something like it worked for our parents and we benefited from it. (Unless one takes the approach"well I didn't want to be born" gfy)

You know what also worked? Forced monogamy. Sure, not while we were shitsmeared proto-apes, but when we actually settled and started to form civilizations. We currently live in a civilization, not some feral, hunter/gatherer, primitive society, so forced monogamy by that logic makes complete sense, and primitive chad chasing doesn't.

As well, incels (physically mentally, or emotionally maimed) are no better for long term mates.

Some aren't some are. That's the thing. This has to do with ugly males, a feature which has nothing to do with LTRs success outside of female shallowness. The crux being that normie/chad looking men can be mentally and emotionally maimed yet bear children and still have brain-dead women running after them, looking for a LTR.

The lack of confidence brings on endless issues in a marriage and it's a lot of work to contend with.

Lack of confidence comes with ostracization in the romantic world. If we were married, not betabuxxed by some post-"wall" hag looking to use us as a safety net but actually married to a similar aged, experienced, etc. looksmatched girl, the foundation for the lack of confidence would be non existent. There are far too many stories about normie+ men who have every reason aside from their sex lives to be unconfident about, receiving confidence from their gfs due to their improved sex/relationship life.

"What did you mean by that?" becomes the most common conversation every normal person gets sick of.

And it's one that as an incel I've never used or seen other incels use. But a variation, "What's that supposed to mean" is immensely used by women who of course, never have issues attaining relationships. Almost like it's completely irrelevant.

As well the least confident person in a relationship is also prone to cheating, as a way to look for the value they always thought marriage would bring them but didn't.

LMAO yeah, because we ugly incels, drowning in the ZERO tinder/OKCupid/online dating matches and ZERO IRL attention/reciprocation etc. would just be overcome with the influx of women that literally never even looked in our directions. Uh huh, that makes sense.

See your issue is you're arguing from the perspective of a female, attractive male. These demographic groups possible confidence issues aren't caused by anything rational, or it's caused by non sex/relationship related things, maybe job performance, financial stress etc. and as such they seek refuge in the one area they do have success in: sex/relationships, causing them to cheat.

Listen, I have to go to sleep, work in the morning, etc. But in the mean time you need to lurk more. A lot of the issues with what you said is that it's fundamentally contrary to everything talked about on this forum. Look, read, stop trying to solve a problem you don't yet understand and actually just observe.

/r/BlackPillScience is a repository of studies and the like, scientifically proving a host of incel beliefs and perspectives. If for whatever reason in your lurking you find doubt in a concept being purported, look it up on there, chances are peer-reviewed scientific articles supports our claims, unlike the anecdotal hogwash that underpins the majority of blue-piled/IT taking points.

Cheers.

Nope. You say it has to do with ugly males. But ignore my edit comment about my 6'7 friend. He is wonderfully ugly. And happily married. And there are so many examples of ugly people getting together. It's the norm. And you can too!

See, your issue is you're arguing from the perspective of an entitled victim. You can go find some barely uglier, slightly weirder girl, and prob have a chance. Anything else would be an exception to the rule anyways. And I've seen very attractive women with ugly guys... And vise versa

Came out today the Texas shooter asked one of his female victims out many times in the last few months. She rejected him. As she should. She wasn't interested. And it's just funny, she sensed the emotional lunacy needed to break so easily. She could see he gets no respect from his male contemporaries. So why date the guy? And why would he aim up so high? He knows he's at the bottom, get that bottom stuff, that stuff is the best.

You can reject natural selection biology and science, to support your victim hood, it will never make it the absolute truth. That is somewhere on the middle usually. Best diversify your outlook. Oh right, you have all the answers and you're thrilled with life.

But ignore my edit comment about my 6'7 friend. He is wonderfully ugly. And happily married.

Right, just be 6'7, average height of an NBA player, less than 1 in 10000 men in the USA are that height, then you merit "a kinda large Italian woman. Thus, disproving: " You can go find some barely uglier, slightly weirder girl, and prob have a chance. " So, ugly men with fatties doesn't disprove blackpill, because looks aren't entirely face, height/frame matter as well, and NBA level height means women will risk their offspring being less good looking if it means the potential to inherit such height genetics.

Was speaking to 6'5 ogrecel. Who feels HES ugly in part of being too tall. Which is true. 6'3 is statistically a cutoff. Now I have you saying being super tall is a benefit. Maybe you can cheer up ogrecel what your comment about how "NBA level height means women will risk their offspring being less good looking if it means the potential to inherit such height genetics."

There ya go ogrecel, a fellow braincel says it should be easy for you.

And it's like this all over inceldom. One contradiction after another.

It's not that complicated guys. My ugly tall friend is married because he could demonstrate emotional stability needed to support people other than himself. A medium ranking among his buds. And he married down SLIGHTLY. But really I don't know, I like her. I was friends with her first actually.

Was speaking to 6'5 ogrecel. Who feels HES ugly in part of being too tall. Which is true. 6'3 is statistically a cutoff. Now I have you saying being super tall is a benefit

Well, he's not necessarily wrong, above 6'3 is where height has diminishing returns, and even negative returns if ugly enough, because you're so tall that you're always noticed, but 6'7 is NBA height and something else again.

https://pics.me.me/him-im-67-got-2-felonies-an-open-murder-case-10974497.png

He is 6'7" which more than makes up for his looks.

I wish I was 6'7"

Nope. You say it has to do with ugly males. But ignore my edit comment about my 6'7 friend. He is wonderfully ugly. And happily married. And there are so many examples of ugly people getting together. It's the norm. And you can too!

I'm sure you think that. But I guarantee they are not nearly as ugly as you think, additionally they're probably white which serves as a backup.

See, your issue is you're arguing from the perspective of an entitled victim.

Nice accusation. Arguing from any other perspective doesn't make sense. Would you say someone poor complaining about their plight is doing so as an "entitled victim".

You can go find some barely uglier, slightly weirder girl, and prob have a chance.

See, this is what I mean when I say lurk more. Ugly girls consistently want at least lower teir normie men. I have seen a few guys with my looks level with girls but they are always white.

And it's just funny, she sensed the emotional lunacy needed to break so easily.

No she didn't. The gal was probably above average looking and the shooter was a fat badly trimmed lump. If women could sense mental aberrations abusive relationships would never exist as women would "sense" them before entering. Unless you're saying they ignore red flags due to looks.

he could see he gets no respect from his male contemporaries. So why date the guy?

Lol, because giving some down on his luck guy a chance could turn things around for him? What time of brain dead hiveminded bs is caring about where other people place their fickle respect? Dude was chubby and probably a bit weird, that's enough to garner a lack of respect.

And why would he aim up so high?

Because he was a reactionary volcel. He looked average amd I guarantee he could pick up some ugly girl, some self-hating white worshiping asian. I don;t have that luxury.

You can reject natural selection biology and science, to support your victim hood, it will never make it the absolute truth.

What natural selection/biology am I rejecting?

That is somewhere on the middle usually. Best diversify your outlook.

Lmao where do you think I was before looking into the blackpill relatively recently? I believed all the stuff you said and more until I looked at it critically and found it lies incongruous with every other facet of reality. Too many blue-pilled normie ideas make no sense, too many exceptions and examples of holes.

Oh right, you have all the answers and you're thrilled with life.

I am actually. Literally every other aspect of my life I'm immensely content with and an identifying characteristic for me IRL is my happiness and cheerfulness. This is the one aspect of my life that's missing something, and a lifetime of bluepill justifications never made sense. I put myself out there, showered, dressed well, etc. yet it was all irrelevant, made no difference no matter who I talked to. Yet I saw more attractive dudes do much *less self improvement and still succeed, I saw sloppy, weird, unfit white guys get with asian/indian girls and all that made no sense with the bluepilled platitudes. Yet it made complete sense with the black-pill. Looks>personality so that explains the former situation, and many women, especially east and south asians, are self-hating white worshipers which explains the latter situation. It all lies completely congruous to the black pill.

Edit: checked out black pill Science. It's like fat vs sugar. Smoking and not smoking (50's). Peer reviewed.. tabloids.

Theres a lot more than just that on there, it's just buried. And compared to the anecdotes you and every other normie uses? Yeah it's more than enough.

Women are children. Children want the best looking, coolest, most successful parents.

Chad wants that tight twink ass. That roastie is just his fag hag

That looks like me.

Most girls cannot take on even the smallest manlet in a fight.

But they do want a man that can potentially beat up other men.

this

Not only they artificially (temporary) "improve" their looks through cosmetics (surgery is a better solution), therefore increasing their standards for their partner, but also strictly preferring to date up.

By cosmetics they reduce the pool of potential men because they are now wanting more, but also wanting more than their looks-match.

First increase the level of your looks-match and they demand more.

How absurd. 80/20 is explained by this shit.

high iq. Dont forget that society doesnt even call them out on the lie that is their face. Guys only act shocked when they see girls without makeup because it doesnt consiously occur to them when they see girls with makeup that their face has been artificially improved.

Facts

Lol. Of course she won't lean towards the ugly one.

Subconscious expression of attraction. It’s over for manlets.

i get enjoyment from mogging white manlets,

That guy could hug both of them

I feel for that dude, it's over for him

Well, they are totally right. Who needs some leak little fucktwat who gets carried away by the wind?

How tall are They?

5 11 and 6ft

guy on the right is 4 foot 2

Gymcelling manlets are not someone I would like to engage in a fight with.

Roasties’s obsession with height is linked to their desire to feel feminine.

The ultimate black pill is that foids want to smash every form of traditional gender roles except the ones that magnify their sexual arousal & highlight their femininity.ironically enough these expectations are the ones they have the most control over, and the ones they have the least desire to change.

Damn the tall guy looks like me, height and all.

Based on the fashion and the fact that she has a genuine smile I'm going to guess this pic was taken before smartphones and dating apps became ubiquitous. I miss those days.

"Basically, if she thinks she can take you on in a fight, then you are a genetic abomination in her eyes." this funny because I used to say to my friends that I only liked guys that I feel I can fight and win. hahaha Guys that are too big used to overuse manliness as a way to """"seduce""" but I just thought it was ridiculous???