As an experiment, I took my little sister with me to the gym one day. Now the girls that usually ignored me want to talk to me. My sister gave me more social capital than I've gotten training there for years.
214 2018-05-20 by GymcellingisCope1
The run-down of what happened:
-I invited my 15 year old sister to come gymcel with me for a bit (she always wanted to, because she saw some of my lifts on Instagram and thought it was cool)
-Now, my sister is 5'3", 130-ish lbs. No incest (I'm not attracted to her), but she's objectively attractive. She looks much older than her age, has I believe D cup breast size, a very good hip-to-waist ratio and she stores fat in all the right areas. She also has a very symmetrical face.
-I on the other hand am 5'5", 145 lbs. Small frame, big Arab nose (we're both Arabs but she doesn't have an Arabic nose) and small chin. My only saving grace is that I have a decent amount of muscle mass. I'd say I'm objectively a 4/10. Despite this, my sister and I have a really good brother-sister relationship and she genuinely respects me.
-Not much happened at the gym. I took her around, taught her how to do some of the main lifts and we just talked with each other and teased each other as we always did, just some quality brother sister time. For those who didn't know, it looked like we were a couple.
-The regular gym thots who always ignored me and gave me dirty looks were just staring at us most of the time. These are the same ones who will leave a bench to go to another bench on the opposite side of the gym just because I was sitting close to them.
-The gym staff, who are mostly women, always ignored me (or looked at me while talking to their friends, a sign that they're making fun of me). As I left with my sister, they all said goodbye and to have a good day.
-Now the gym thots who saw us that day smile at me and want me to start conversations with them. They are much nicer to me now than they ever were before (they were extremely rude and cold before, even when I just ask them if they are using equipment).
The result is that my sister being around me has done more for my social value than two years of lifting ever did. Heck, it probably didn't even matter what I looked like; Those girls simply saw a goodlooking girl treat me as a human being, and now they want to treat me like a human being.
I'm not sure what lessons to take out of this, just thought I'd share what happened.
129 comments
1 birthmarkcel 2018-05-20
big blackpill
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
A bit of a hope pill for me. Maybe I can exploit this in a way.
But yeah it starts with one goodlooking girl giving you respect in public. That's all it takes for other women to join in.
1 birthmarkcel 2018-05-20
Take her everywhere now. Maybe you'll spend more time together at the gym and it'll extend to going to other places. Maybe try cinema?
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
I'll definitely be taking her to my gym every once in a while, it's a college gym where I currently work doing research.
Sure it costs around $10.00 every time to pay for her entrance, but holy crap, even one visit vastly improved how I socialize at the gym, so it's worth it.
1 guerillahubris00 2018-05-20
jfl at the downvotes. some roasties are getting really mad by this lmaoo
1 empatheticapathetic 2018-05-20
"just STAY INCEL PLEASE"
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-20
Taking your sister just for other females to pay more attention to you?
I mean, at least explain to her that she's gonna be your wingman as well, 'cause otherwise that's going to be a dick move.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
I won't do it often. Either way I hang out with my sister regularly. We go out once a week to get ice cream or get coffee, sometimes go to the mall.
She's the one that wanted to come with me to the gym.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-20
No, I understand, it just sounds like that.
1 selene_true_immortal 2018-05-20
seriously though dude, imagine if a 6'2 jacked dude flirted with her in front of you, if I had a sis, NEVER EVER WOULD I go out anywhere with her, Unless I was jacked enough to keep the creeps away from her.
U do realize she also might be checking out guys at the gym too right.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
She's 15. She's off limits.
And no, I was with her the whole time.
1 selene_true_immortal 2018-05-20
she may be off limits, but imagine if a guy much bigger than u hits on her, U would have to fight , u win, it disturbs her, u lose it scares her.
Also do u allow her to date or is it only u who should have a gf
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
That doesn't happen IRL unless you're at a club or bar. I've seen that happen at those venues often, but that doesn't happen at a gym.
Fortunately she has my dad and I as very strong male figures in her life, so she doesn't feel the need to date atm. She mostly gets dudes in her school to buy her stuff or give her free Netflix subscriptions.
1 selene_true_immortal 2018-05-20
Yikes, and this must further push u into a shell
Also would u allow her to date in the future or is it arranged marriage with Abdul or Kareem.
Also, does she know about ur incel situation and the trouble u have with girls.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
She thinks I look good but that's mostly from the mere exposure effect.
I'd only want her marrying a Muslim man ideally.
1 bobsbigbouy 2018-05-20
Yeah i know the feeling. I only want my sister to marry a white man.
1 LinksLight 2018-05-20
hey I've had a lot of goodlooking friends who didn't want to date me
1 Dellarie 2018-05-20
Sisterpill
1 PopLegion 2018-05-20
The only pill
1 DEPTHERROR 2018-05-20
Preselection so dumb foids can see you must have some value.
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-20
That's a pill with a bit of a reddish tint there bud
1 DEPTHERROR 2018-05-20
Well it doesn’t mean they will fuck him just that he isn’t a complete ogre and woman who is attractive finds him safe.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
Maybe I have a decent chance with the ones shorter than me, but at the very least both them and the girls taller than me don't treat me like a pariah.
1 MagratM 2018-05-20
This is why I say to get female friends. You're seen as less intimidating if you have women who are happy to be around you
1 PhucCheet 2018-05-20
Much less intimidating, but it doesn't necessarily mean attraction. They might just see you platonically.
1 MagratM 2018-05-20
Better than seeing you as an ugly possible rapist though, yes?
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
Who cares though? I want a romantic relationship not more platonic friends.
1 MagratM 2018-05-20
But if you have the platonic friends, you're then "safe" and can approach women with less apprehension about being rejected for being a creepy weirdo, or they will see you interacting with your platonic friend and decide that your personality makes up for your face.
Come on... Think about it positively. Don't just circle the negatives.
1 WinstonSmith-Corona 2018-05-20
Don't listen to the people who are minimizing what's happened, or putting the worst possible spin on it. You've seen a little piece of what the people who want you to succeed have been telling you—that it's possible to get attractive women to be nice to you. Sometimes you have to see things for yourself to understand, no?
1 YouAreWrongKid 2018-05-20
That just leads to you being friendzoned, possibly even more painful and frustrating.
1 MagratM 2018-05-20
Fine. Do nothing. Sit and rot. Never try anything just in case you fail.
1 YouAreWrongKid 2018-05-20
I've already made real suggestions on what Incels can do. The first step is to write off western White women as 99% of them are trash. I recommend they travel to Asia to meet women or become strict Muslims and have a Muslim wife guaranteed.
1 TheEndIsComing29 2018-05-20
The worst thing you can do as an Incel is make Female friends. You will always be hoping for it turn to something more and it won't, and that is a recipe for hate and resentment.
1 MagratM 2018-05-20
That's why I say make friends with someone you're not attracted to.
1 PhucCheet 2018-05-20
They still don't want to fuck you. However, now they see you can be normal and don't think of you as a creep. Social preselection.
Before they looked at you and saw some bitter incel who might shoot them up. After seeing you with your sister, they see you as friendly and approachable. It doesn't guarantee attraction, but it takes away the "creep" factor, which at least gives you a chance to approach and get to know them.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
Thus is likely the case, though I was not creepy before. I socialize with guys all the time at the gym, just never with the girls because they never wanted to.
1 PhucCheet 2018-05-20
Is an incel
Says this:
Have you even blackpilled bro?
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
Oh right, unattractive=creepy I forgot.
1 PhucCheet 2018-05-20
It's like you haven't even read r/braincels
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-20
lulz
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-20
my god manlets never learn do they
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
Nope.
1 movielover2018 2018-05-20
You can do this man.
1 JamesLucratif 2018-05-20
That sounds worse though. Cause now they think he gives a fuck what they think and will shit test him FOR NOOOOOTHING
Get off mAh swamp
1 Fingercel 2018-05-20
Red Pill's not entirely wrong. Hell, neither is Blue Pill. The real pill is mostly black, but with some blue and red coloring mixed in. More red than blue, I'd say.
1 Ultramegasaurus 2018-05-20
Women are so primitive
1 LooksMatterToWomen 2018-05-20
Preselection's basis in reality is dubious. What's really happening isn't "attraction", but a removal of the ugly guy's "creep" factor. Too many men confuse platonic friendliness with sexual desire.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
Yeah this is likely it.
1 asdlkjpoiqwer0981234 2018-05-20
A classic PUA mistake
1 Vrishkin 2018-05-20
He doesn’t have value until someone affirms that he has value for them
1 AmericasMostUnwanted 2018-05-20
Women want men that other women want. Women were nice to me while I was trying to get a girls phone number. Little did they know that the slut rejected me.
1 Ultramegasaurus 2018-05-20
Women are so primitive
1 random1234lol 2018-05-20
This is the reason why I want female friends irl. Too bad that women don't want to be friends with subhumans.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
I have female friends in real life, but they never wanted to be seen with me in public unless there were four other people around. And they would never be as teasing and enthusiastic hanging out with my as my sister is, which is what women want to see.
1 RoastBeefEnthusiast 2018-05-20
iktf
iktf2
1 movielover2018 2018-05-20
Damn it that sucks. Fucking life sucks fml.
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-20
Buy some cocaine. Your new lady friends will pop up out of nowhere.
1 IncelistanWillRise 2018-05-20
Hook me up with your sister plz
1 uglyloser567 2018-05-20
Even incels don't want other ugly incels to be the SOs of their sister.
This is the true blackpill.
1 LECAGO 2018-05-20
is this the meta-blackpill?
1 mr4ffe 2018-05-20
Black 2.0 Pill
1 bcat124 2018-05-20
Femoids are so unaware of their behavior , it just boggles my mind. I bet all those femoids who suddenly became nice to you have no fukin clue that they treated you coldly before, and are not aware why they treat you better now.
Taking dating advice from a femoid is like taking evolutionary biology advice from a monkey.
1 uglyloser567 2018-05-20
Very true. They have the brain capacity of little children. This is why you should never have any women in any top leadership positions. They're just incapable. Look at the many examples like Marissa Mayer and Margret Thatcher. JFL is you think women can do shit in this world. I have zero respect for any women and I absolutely hate it when they speak in the office. Fucking retarded cunts.
1 Silver6Rules 2018-05-20
The comment fits the name. Congrats.
1 Imfuckingweird 2018-05-20
Your a fucking idiot. And the fact that women won't go near you is because you say shit like that. No amount of shaming is going to get you laid bud, that's not how it works.
1 uglyloser567 2018-05-20
Who said women don't go near me? I am more volcel than incel. But I abhor all those fucking creatures for all the bullying they have inflicted on me. I will do everything in my power to cause them pain.
1 Imfuckingweird 2018-05-20
Upvote
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-20
I mostly agree, but Thatcher was a hard-assed leader who made tough, often unpopular decisions. She saved Britain from almost certain financial ruin.
1 ibtem 2018-05-20
I think it's worse: They are aware of it but they see absolutely nothing wrong with it. You increased in value = you deserve more attention. They are like the coldest businessmen you can think of.
1 MyGrumpyVag 2018-05-20
Men do this too, just in slightly different ways.
I worked somewhere for four years as an overweight woman, and during the last year lost all the weight. Suddenly the men that would barely speak to me were asking me out and saying things like "I always thought you were funny!"
Yeah, cool dude. You "always" thought I was funny but now that I'm thin I'm worth talking to and worth asking out. They didn't seem to realize their change in behavior either, or how it would make me feel.
Cant be bitter for long when people do this though. Its natural to want to be around others you find worthwhile either in appearance, confidence, social standing, etc. and they were under no obligation to find me attractive based solely on my personality.
However unless you've been ignored/outcast/ugly/fat you dont know what its like.
When people say "everyone should work a fast food/retail job!" to gain perspective, I wish there was a course people could take on what its like to be ugly. Just try being unattractive and ignored for three months to see what its like.
1 ibtem 2018-05-20
right, I wouldn't have a problem with it either if the entirety of society hadn't done their damnest to brainwash me with that
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
A woman's automatic mode is guarded around any man's that's not attractive. They don't see it as wrong.
1 jotaro_kuj0 2018-05-20
Holii fuck.
1 thr0w123away456 2018-05-20
just-have-a-hot-sister theory
1 oksidasyon 2018-05-20
wish i had sis to fux
1 TfwNoMommyGf 2018-05-20
I've always wondered why women are instantly more attracted to men in relationships. Oh that's right foids are evil.
1 6969696970 2018-05-20
just fuck your sister dude
1 The_Real_Stannis 2018-05-20
I've got a similar story, except it was with some girl who's part of my big circle of friends. It seemed like she didn't like me from the start as she openly said to my friend how anti-social I was, even though I was in the room and heard what she said. Recently there was a rumour that I had a girlfriend (no, I don't actually have a girlfriend, this girl and I just talked a lot one day since we both do the same subjects and we're sort of friends, but not really) and suddenly this girl who was talking shit about me suddenly acted nice to me.
1 NutNotBusted 2018-05-20
A bitter blackpill right here
1 TruthbeTold9999 2018-05-20
The lesson is they think you either have a big dick or fuck like an animal now.. because good looking girls don't choose 5'5 manlets long term.
1 Jsm96 2018-05-20
Or short term.
1 andinuad 2018-05-20
Seinfield did an episode of that phenomena. Forgot what it is called, lol.
1 mr4ffe 2018-05-20
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1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-20
tell me when you find out what it's called
1 andinuad 2018-05-20
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1 broken__clocks 2018-05-20
Okay, I’m gonna give you some perspective as to why this probably happened... They saw another female. Simple. Women aren’t gonna approach a guy who is alone in the gym, maybe they don’t want it to seem like they are flirting or whatever. It doesn’t mean they necessarily assumed that you two were dating, it just makes you seem more approachable. Those women aren’t there to find a guy, they are there to work out. I think you are looking in the wrong place for a girl to date.
1 Throwaway1337145317 2018-05-20
Username checks out. This isn’t one of the two times you’re right.
1 broken__clocks 2018-05-20
🤔 How am I wrong? It’s just a guess but you haven’t provided any reasoning as to why you think I’m wrong.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
Doesn't explain why they talked to me even when NY sister wasn't there the next day.
1 JM645 2018-05-20
I think he's trying to say that you're no longer available to date, therefore no "risk" in talking to you now
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
Sounds about right.
1 eyewant 2018-05-20
Good clarification
1 broken__clocks 2018-05-20
Not really but whatever... 🤷🏻♀️
1 broken__clocks 2018-05-20
They now have established a connection with you so it isn’t as weird for them to talk to you.
1 foreignincel4 2018-05-20
nice brother bound i respect that, i miss my brother
1 Tardulv 2018-05-20
Stop wanting to bone your sister.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
I don't want to bone her, she's my sister.
1 jacketboundjester 2018-05-20
Dude don't be a dick.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-20
Hey, cretin, explain how you inferred that he wants to fuck his sister?
1 Nancy125 2018-05-20
why aren’t you attracted to it? I am attracted to mine
1 nachocheesie 2018-05-20
I know you put the incest disclaimer but... this is creepy as fuck.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
Well I had to make my point clear. I was only being objective in what she looked like. No, I am not attracted to her.
1 IncelistanWillRise 2018-05-20
How is that creepy? He was literally just describing her. Wtf? You're overly sensitive, gtfo cunt
1 nachocheesie 2018-05-20
In an extremely sexual manner, making it clear he looks at her as a sexual and romantic being.
1 IncelistanWillRise 2018-05-20
He made a point to specify that wasn't the case. Are you mentally retarded or can you just not read?
Describing her sexual appeal was a point he made to reinforce the message he was conveying. I really feel like I'm talking to a stupid little girl here. Do you understand or not? Got any literary comprehension, dumb bitch?
1 nachocheesie 2018-05-20
I mean... I can say I'm not violent and still punch someone. Actions speak louder than words.
It's fucking creepy he did it to his own 15 year old sister. The way he described her and the fact that he though about her like that to make a point among his fellow incels was incesty.
And I feel like I'm talking to incestous pedophiles in denial.
Got any critical thinking skills, prince charming who will absolutely not die alone? Or do you just take everything said to you at face value?
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
I can do that to any person. It doesn't matter here because nobody on this subreddit knows who I am in real life.
How many times do I have to reinforce the idea that I don't find her sexually attractive? I was only describing her to make a point.
To me she's first and foremost my sister. She's an amazing young girl who I enjoy hanging out with. I don't even see her as a sexual being, but there's nothing wrong with me admitting that in the eyes of society, she would be a conventionally attractive woman based on how she physically looks.
Also, I described how I looked physically, why was that not creepy?
If I had a brother and said that he was 6'2", had a good jawline, a large frame and was muscular, would that be creepy?
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-05-20
Ignore outraged retards like that, they're just interested in flinging shit and screeching
1 IncelistanWillRise 2018-05-20
Ok I'm done here, arguing with normshits lowers my IQ.
Hey you're right I won't, cause I'm buying a wife later! Thanks for reminding me that I have a nicer lil trip to look forward to at the end of the year
1 nachocheesie 2018-05-20
Was that pathetic response supposed to trigger me? Who are you lying to, we both know you cannot afford one.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-20
Quit screeching like an idiot.
He's not incestuous. He was describing his sister's superior traits.
If you accuse the OP of being an incestuous pedophile one more time, you will be getting banned for harassment.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-20
He literally became clinical in his terms and you still consider him ogling his sister? What the fuck?
1 nachocheesie 2018-05-20
All of you are getting so defensive. Really speaks to something larger.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-20
That we find what you're saying offensive and stupid? That really is the larger message.
1 based_meme 2018-05-20
Just have a hot sister bro.
1 Pillowzombie1 2018-05-20
Fuck your sister
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
Nah
1 JesusFromTheSouth 2018-05-20
You are volcel if you don’t
1 modernbugman67 2018-05-20
Damn. Everyone at your gym sounds like a total piece of shit. At my gym everyone is nice no matter what you look like as long as your nice too.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
The guys are nice. The girls are not. They always have a guarded attitude unless 6'2" muscular white Chad is around.
1 mr4ffe 2018-05-20
At my gym there are some really bloated dudes with attitudes who like to walk around mean muggin and all that. None of them have been friendly whenever I've talked to them. Everybody else have been straight though.
1 Blackpilltales 2018-05-20
STATUS NUMBER ONE
1 flarkbraut 2018-05-20
Social proof is king.
Same reason a guy with a baby or a puppy will get more positive reactions from women than a guy on a motorcycle.
Remember to act aloof and focus your attention on helping your lil sis rather than the thots and they will see and respect that.
1 movielover2018 2018-05-20
Damn, thats a big black pill.
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-05-20
Preselection is real and brutal
1 annoying_seagull 2018-05-20
What exactly is preselection
1 Fernandonut 2018-05-20
LET ME GOOGLE THAT FOR YOU
1 based_meme 2018-05-20
It a signal to other women that this man has value, is not a threat, and is worth pursuing. Women preselect for many things, like attractiveness (this the absolute first filter), dominance, and resources. The first is automatic, the other two are done by engaging and talking with him. She'll roughly know your dominance level usually in the first five minutes. Preselection helps women because a lot of the heavy lifting and screening has already been done by another woman, like a seal of approval.
1 customerservicevoice 2018-05-20
Also, there's something charming about someone learning. She made you more approachable, yes, but not for the reasons you think.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
What reasons do you propose then?
1 customerservicevoice 2018-05-20
I just said? You were helping a 15 year old girl learn the ropes. That just makes you approachable. It really is that easy.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
Oh I see.
1 drunkandstoned420 2018-05-20
Lol, u sound like a fucking pussy. Get a life loser.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
>Tells others to get a life
>username: drunkandstoned420
1 hone_claws 2018-05-20
JUST GET A GIRLFRIEND THEORY LMFAO
1 drunkandstoned420 2018-05-20
Yup. Because I enjoy it and don’t give a fuck...at least I don’t bring my sister to a gym to increase my social capital lol that’s creepy af ...thats so weird to even think like that haha
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
As I said I only did it once as an experiment.
1 Sportacle 2018-05-20
Guys... slow down.. think about it a little bit and be reasonable and rational. The fact that you are hateful and jealous is already a reason to think you probably don't have a great personality to begin with. OP, It seems that you don't have any confidence in yourself, which is already an unattractive feature. With your sister that day you were probably glowing more and smiling more which is way more attractive than you walking around probably frowning because no girl is instantly jumping on your dick. I've seen plenty of "unattractive" dudes more confident in themselves get women.
Now this may sound cruel but it is natural for woman and men to pair up that are similar in "attractiveness". You can't go to the gym and call everyone a thot because you are looking at 10s and expecting them to just somehow want you. I know life is tough but playing the victim is the weakest approach. There are probably women who are, using your words, "4/10" that would be more than happy to be in a relationship with you. And you have the Arab thing which is super interesting and some girls think it's hot so keep at it and keep your head up. Stop being a victim. Be more outgoing and stop thinking you just want to fuck every 10/10 you see. Have better intentions and be better than any shitty type of person. Maybe you have ignored a 4/10 girl at some point? Keep at it dude and keep working out.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
I know my league very well, to the point where I don't talk to girls I know are out of my league because there's no point. I'll never chat up a 5'8" white girl and ask her out because that's delusional.
No, I don't care that the girls at the gym don't want to fuck me. I'm just pointing out that they're friendlier to me now than they were in the past, just because of this incident.
I have only asked out girls shorter than me of my race, and nowhere near as fit too, still got rejected.
1 Sportacle 2018-05-20
I understand your frustration. I do. Try really hard to look within. Im also Arab and I know how stubborn we can be. You can't really change the world around you and I'm not saying you have to change yourself. But just saying "I don't even talk to girls out of my league cause there is no point" shows that you are acting like you're a lowly victim. You have to change your approach. Work on confidence. Talk to anyone you want to. If they don't like it and act shitty then they are probably a shitty person anyway. Why would you even want to talk to a shitty person. You should try to be patient and try to stop hating "thots". If they're rude then fuck them. But I'm thinking it has something to do with your approach, which is easily changed. If you have a more positive outlook you will eventually attract more people (maybe just as friends) but then it will increase your odds of finding that special girl that thinks you're a bad ass. And being a bad ass has nothing to do with what you look like, it has to do with your actions. Complaining and whining is unattractive.
1 geneticwaste43 2018-05-20
A woman not being repulsed by you skyrockets your sexual value. They do not initially know that she is your sister.
1 YouAreWrongKid 2018-05-20
Its like when a girl sees a cute puppy with you, she might briefly interact with you to see the puppy but I doubt it will last. Good on you though
1 JennySliptush 2018-05-20
They prob thought you were some creep gawking at them before you took her. After you took her they prob feel safer talking to you because 1. you're taken 2. they'll attribute your awkward creepiness as not a thing you do out of girl desperation, but rather as just a personality and body language flaw. Just don't mention that she was your sister, because if you do- you'll go right back to being treated like the creepo you prob are. Good luck!
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
So where do I go from here?
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-20
It showed you were safe to be around. Most wymyn see ugly men as potential rapists..Chad has no need to rape (although he sometimes does).
1 SignorSolitudine 2018-05-20
Chad raping is like Bernie Madoff the millionaire stealing from people to become a billionaire. Just assholes running up the score
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-20
Most millionaires are self-made...they didn't steal it. Most Chads have no need to rape, they get eyeballed constantly.
1 SignorSolitudine 2018-05-20
That’s my point
Bernie Madoff didn’t need to steal to go from legitimate millions to illegitimate billions, and all Chads don’t need to rape. But they do because they’re greedy and they can
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-20
The vast majority of men would never rape. Most rapists are ugly, anti-social types. Scroll some mug shots if you must. Chad MAY rape, but doesn't have to.
1 jjthehorse 2018-05-20
Just dont be creepy or too nice dont try too hard jsut let things happen. Concentrate on other things.
1 GREYnRED 2018-05-20
Damn. Bruh you just increased your SMV
1 Mr-Mercedes- 2018-05-20
Your sister was a good bro
All sisters with incel brothers should do this for them
1 DankIncel 2018-05-20
The lesson is: Roasties are vile.
1 hermopietrobon 2018-05-20
"Ugly sisters hate him"
1 Ms_Strafalarius 2018-05-20
Maybe it is because they think you have a girlfriend so you won't try to flirt with them, so they feel relaxed around you.
You know, some times girls avoid males that are "potential flirters" because we want to avoid these situations
1 Fernandonut 2018-05-20
I have a hard time believing you'd give a shit about a "flirter" if it was Chad.
1 Ms_Strafalarius 2018-05-20
Nope. I just want guys to leave me alone "chad" or not.
1 UselessBrakes 2018-05-20
The lesson is: women feel more secure around men that other women have approved as "not a desperate psychopath".
Is is difficult for most men to completely understand this, but almost all women have experienced being threatened or stalked by aggressive/desperate men. And such men are also the leading cause of death amongst young women. This is heavily imprinted into womens instincts, as being weary of men could litterally save their lives. Even if the risk of any man being dangerous is very small, women will not risk getting unwanted attention from him unless they have some clear evidence that he is not dangerous and is capable of respecting/handling rejection.
So women who go to this gym regularly are afraid of seeming too friendly with a guy (especially one who does not seem to have much luck with girls, and hence is likely to be more desperate/hard to get rid of if he catches an interest). These girls dont want to risk having to switch gyms in order to shake this man off or having to take big percautions in order to stop the man from stalking/hurting them.
When a man has another women with him it tells the girls two things. 1) The chance of him being aggressive/dangerous is very low because otherwise this woman would not be hanging out with him and 2) he is likely not to be desperate/likely to not take no for an answer, as he already is able to get girls.
This makes it more "safe" to show normal nice behaviour but it does NOT neccesarily mean that these girls are interested in you. They might just try to show normal courtacy.
Most people wish other people well, but women are sometimes to "wary" of men (especially desperate or unsocial-looking men) to risk it. When signs diminish the likelyhood of a man being a "threat" down towards zero the women drop their guard and act nicer.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
This is a catch 22 situation then.
Women are wary of men who aren't successful with women, but to make women unwary of me I have to be sexually successful.
This is just another way of telling me to be attractive.
1 UselessBrakes 2018-05-20
True, but there are ways to get out of the loop.
The first step is to try and truly understand the world from a womans perspective. Instead of taking everything women do and say personally, try to identify the logical reason why they act like they do.
Two of the main motivators in women are 1) fear/anxiety and 2) the instinct of trying to maximize their own (and thier hypothetical offsprings) chance of survival and success. In most cases fear is the strongest, and this is why you should first try to eliminate any signs that could indicate that you are not a 100% safe person to be around. Having female friends or any healthy friendships is a great white flag. Desperation and/or resentment towards women is one of the biggest red flags, and women can spot it from miles away.
I sometimes see an attitude towards women in her as immoral/lying/incapable of love/subhuman etc. Needless to say, this is EXTREMELY counterproductive. As a result of the instincts described above women can smell resentment (danger) from miles away. ANY sign of it, and they will put their most defensive attitude on or flee in the opposite direction.Women are very afraid of it (and probably with good reason).
After you have eliminated all the red flags of danger, you should concider what qualities you can offer that will help a female (and your hypothetical offspring) to survive and succeed. This is a hardwired instinct in women, so it works even for those who dont want kids. If good genes (in the form of good looks, good health and intelligence) is not one of your qualities, concider what skills and useful personality traits you have/can aquire. Work on improving and showing theese.
Showing your skills (almost like a peacock) is very important. Telling a woman that you are intelligent, hard working and loyal is not going to help unless she can clearly see the evidence of these qualities. Women easily see through bragging/acting like you know something that you dont, so focus on creating actual proof of your value. Abilities like leadership, social skills, craftmanship, sports etc are good. If you excell in almost any field and get attention for it, chances are that you will get noticed by a girl who cares about exactly those qualities. If you have a strength, any strength that is in some way useful, work on that and show it to the world.
Actually, focus a on bringing A LOT of attention to whatever positive traits you have. Perform, speak up, publish and claim your space. Being noticed by lots of girls means that the ones that might find you interesting will find you (this is why anyone famous, even criminals, are able to get girlfriends).
My last tip is to realize a boring, yet true fact of life (call it a gray pill). You might not be able to get you dream girl this way, despite your efforts. So if you cant get the one you "love", your only option is to try and love the one you can actually get. If you are an incel chances are you are not your future girlfriends first choiche either. That is not necessarily so bad, but it is an important thing to realize.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
PM me. I belueve you severely underestimate me. I have friends, and I have accomplishments.
1 UselessBrakes 2018-05-20
I am just speaking in general terms. If you have loads of friends and accomplishments then I dont think you have to be an incel. Are you very young? Are you very shy/not outgoing? Are your accomplishments useful and are they evident to a great number of females?
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
PM me I'll show you
1 bobsbigbouy 2018-05-20
Thirsty as fuck. Stop kissing that cunt's meat curtains.
1 bobsbigbouy 2018-05-20
Leading cause of death, women aged 20-24 is accidental injury. Homicide is 3rd at 7.5%. Homicide is also male's aged 20-24 3rd leading cause of death, but that's at 18.2%.
1 TakeOnMe-TakeOnMe 2018-05-20
Seeing you with a woman is basically the social equivalent to being vetted.
1 AmericasMostUnwanted 2018-05-20
Anytime I'm a regular at a place like a gym, school, local food store, and I take my better looking brother there once and then go back the other times by myself, I only have convos when people ask where my brother is.
1 zZacharyChad 2018-05-20
TFW you enter into a relationship and suddenly a couple of foids in the same social circle start calling you cute. TFW you score a foid way out of your league and another high smv foid friend of yours gives her nasty looks and says nasty things to her. Wymyn's behavior changes drastically depending on whether you can score one or not. It's also affected by how attractive the chick is. They operate on a hive mind like the borg LMAO.
1 KolaDesi 2018-05-20
Did you use to chat a little with all these people (and no, asking about equipement is not chatting)? Because being totally ignored after many weeks sounds very strange. In my experience those people who are worth only a greeting are the very very weird ones.
Anyway, I guess that after they've seen you be social with someone (who's your sister in this case) they found you more approachable.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
I'm always social at the gym with guys. Guys at the gym know me very well and typically come up to me and chat for a bit. I'm far from being socially awkward.
Girls on the other hand avoid me and do not make conversation.
1 KolaDesi 2018-05-20
Oh well, I don't know what happened then relatable to my experience. I tried.
1 LinksLight 2018-05-20
not trying to be normie here, but sometimes people just want an opening to trust someone, or see something worth knowing in someone. As in, you care for your sis.
Serious question, have you tried doing that kind of "teasing" with female friends you're attracted to? I always thought that was one of my drawbacks in dating, (other than looks), I come from a kind of serious family and didn't know how to "play fight" like all my friends dating did.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
Nah I've never teased any girl that wasn't family for risk of getting #MeToo
1 Fernandonut 2018-05-20
Good call. Not worth the risk.
1 deathlyhapa 2018-05-20
social proof is everything.
1 Throwaway1337145317 2018-05-20
Username checks out. This isn’t one of the two times you’re right.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
I don't want to bone her, she's my sister.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
Doesn't explain why they talked to me even when NY sister wasn't there the next day.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
Yeah this is likely it.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-20
I can do that to any person. It doesn't matter here because nobody on this subreddit knows who I am in real life.
How many times do I have to reinforce the idea that I don't find her sexually attractive? I was only describing her to make a point.
To me she's first and foremost my sister. She's an amazing young girl who I enjoy hanging out with. I don't even see her as a sexual being, but there's nothing wrong with me admitting that in the eyes of society, she would be a conventionally attractive woman based on how she physically looks.
Also, I described how I looked physically, why was that not creepy?
If I had a brother and said that he was 6'2", had a good jawline, a large frame and was muscular, would that be creepy?
1 IncelistanWillRise 2018-05-20
Ok I'm done here, arguing with normshits lowers my IQ.
Hey you're right I won't, cause I'm buying a wife later! Thanks for reminding me that I have a nicer lil trip to look forward to at the end of the year
1 jacketboundjester 2018-05-20
Dude don't be a dick.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-20
Hey, cretin, explain how you inferred that he wants to fuck his sister?
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-20
Quit screeching like an idiot.
He's not incestuous. He was describing his sister's superior traits.
If you accuse the OP of being an incestuous pedophile one more time, you will be getting banned for harassment.
1 asdlkjpoiqwer0981234 2018-05-20
A classic PUA mistake
1 YouAreWrongKid 2018-05-20
I've already made real suggestions on what Incels can do. The first step is to write off western White women as 99% of them are trash. I recommend they travel to Asia to meet women or become strict Muslims and have a Muslim wife guaranteed.