There is no organism on this earth more privileged than the young human female.
The society that has let them take full advantage of this with no consequences is not a society that will last . It's a society that will not last and the sooner we destroy it the better.
It is more likely that you will be a virgin saltily posting on reddit for the rest of your life than managing to destroy society and bring about government mandated girlfriends
Whatever you propose would probably infringe upon the right of women to be intimate with who they want as free individuals. As a soy consuming cuck I would have to agree with you that I am not in favor of curtailing these freedoms.
Let me guess; women get to ride the cock carousel and take advantage of their privilege to the fullest like in the OP, degeneracy like eating shit and drinking period blood or consenting to cuckoldry is empowering and healthy and whatever happens to the rest of society doesn't matter at all, the sexual revolution was a great thing and monogamy is oppressive.
I believe that monogamy is oppressive, though not for whatever reasons you might ascribe to me. I don't think it is natural for most people to be sexual attracted and want to be with one person for 30, 40, 50 plus years. I get bored fapping to the same woman more than 3 nights in a row. Of course, if people want to do it then it's OK with me.
Consuming shit and blood is disgusting but again if people want to do it in the privacy of their home and are not bothering anyone else then I don't care.
And as for your first point, I would say that the developments from the sixties up until the modern day have made it much easier for females to have more control in their sexual behavior. They can now use technology to more easily select for the men with genetic traits that are universally desired, like height, fair skin color, beautiful features. But you already know this. This has disenfranchised millions of men who weren't fortunate enough to posess them. Unfortunate though this may be, it has been the nature of women to do this for thousands of years, just as you as a male would look for big ass and titties. We are the victims of natural selection, a force that is unnatural to fight. All you can currently do is try to increase your appeal, because women do not owe every man sex, and to enforce otherwise would be tyranny. That is how I see it. And I would further add that you probably don't give a fuck about other things that people were born into that fuck them over in life, like people in third world countries that suffer so we can perpetuate our standard of living. They never had a chance at a good life. But you only care about what affects you, not being able to get a gf
Lol, you literally admit the blackpill is true and then defend the status quo just like I expected you to do. Women used to have sexual freedom and that predates civilization. When civilization formed, monogamy was enforced and the nuclear family was conceptualized. This is the backbone of all human progress. Before it, we were just apes barely managing to survive. There is too much shit to argue against here but basically you are admitting that my original comment was true except you are supposedly disagreeing with the fact that it will lead to disaster and the fall of civilization as a whole. You unironically think that 80% or whatever of men will be fine with living sexless lives while women form harems with the Chads and you are HAPPY that it's easier than ever for them to do this. You actually think this is sustainable and healthy.
I really haveno reason to continue this conversation with you as it won't lead anywhere. You're just another sex-positive liberal who doesn't give a shit and believes in absolute personal freedom no matter the consequences, whether long or short term.
You misconstrue or assume a bunch of things here, which I will labor to correct:
I am not happy that most women want to be with a minority of attractive men. I accept that it is natural for them to want to do this. It is literally natural selection. I don't want to force women into relationships they don't want to be in, it's stupid, counterproductive, and will lead to both unhappy men and women.
Monogamy did not arise in all civilizations, it is not a universal value that must be upheld. It is not "the backbone of all human progress." In all of the societies where monogamy was the norm, men and women would cheat on their spouse, as they felt it contrary to their nature to be true to one person. Also, some of the world's greatest philosophers, thinkers, scientists and artists, the people who actually push civilization forward, were incels, gay, or polyamorous. And do you really think as lifespans elongate that people in the future will want to stay with one man or woman, for hundreds or thousands of years?
If a man absolutely needs sex then he can pay for it. If he needs the comfort of a relationship he will not get it from a woman forced to mate with him at the barrel of a soldier's gun or the stroke of a politician's pen. The woman will resent him all the years of her life, and provide no emotional succor. This can be observed in east european societies that practice ritual bridal kidnapping. The woman cries for days after she is captured, and deteriorates into an emotionless zombie state that would shrivel my dick if I were her husband. This is the result of nonconsensual marriage, that no reasonable man should want.
Ahahaha WE WUZ KANGS polamory/gay edition. You are absolutely ridiculous and your claims have no basis in reality. Also the comments about Eastern Europe is some of the funniest and most untrue shit I've ever heard especially considering I have family there. Just fucking lol.
You should read Sex and Culture by J. D. Unwin if you actually want to educate yourself on the importance of monogamy and why it isn't oppressive and why restricted sexual freedom is crucial instead of spouting this dumb shit. Good riddance
Idk why facts you don't like make you so upset. I wrote all this to see if you could give me some insight I hadn't considered, and you respond with the typical right wing white guy in western civilization mindset. It is a fact that many civilizations existed and exist that do not enforce monogamy, but they don't count because they are not your preferred civilization or aren't advanced enough. The polyamorous Maori killed lions with only some sharpened sticks and their courage. Bridal kidnappings occur in Kyrgyzstan to this day; I am not exactly sure if it is an eastern European or eurasian nation or whatever, sorry to have bothered you so much about that, I was just bringing it up as a useful example of what happens to women when they are forced against their will to marry someone; they become like slaves almost, completely sapped of their emotional well being by a sadness that never goes away.
Restricted sexual freedom is the definition of oppressive, you are limiting a woman's freedoms so that a beta she doesn't really love can get married, who she'll probably cheat on at some point. You can't bring back the fifties and outlaw tinder or whatever the fuck. Society has evolved and is trimming the fat. I am sorry if you can't find a girl that wants to be with you, it's very sad, but forcing them to will not give you what you need, which is the comfort that comes with the honest love of a consensual relationship.
Idk why facts you don't like make you so upset. I wrote all this to see if you could give me some insight I hadn't considered, and you respond with the typical right wing white guy in western civilization mindset. It is a fact that many civilizations existed and exist that do not enforce monogamy, but they don't count because they are not your preferred civilization or aren't advanced enough. The polyamorous Maori killed lions with only some sharpened sticks and their courage. Bridal kidnappings occur in Kyrgyzstan to this day; I am not exactly sure if it is an eastern European or eurasian nation or whatever, sorry to have bothered you so much about that, I was just bringing it up as a useful example of what happens to women when they are forced against their will to marry someone; they become like slaves almost, completely sapped of their emotional well being by a sadness that never goes away.
Restricted sexual freedom is the definition of oppressive, you are limiting a woman's freedoms so that a beta she doesn't really love can get married, who she'll probably cheat on at some point. You can't bring back the fifties and outlaw tinder or whatever the fuck. Society has evolved and is trimming the fat. I am sorry if you can't find a girl that wants to be with you, it's very sad, but forcing them to will not give you what you need, which is the comfort that comes with the honest love of a consensual relationship.
Read the book, retard. Stop claiming women are oppressed under enforced monogamy and stop assuming it is literal slavery and that the women born under such a society would be today's empowered white feminist whores. I am not even "white" and I know first hand what non-Western life is like for women. I'm sick or arguing this shit with you, if you want to argue this further I recommend doing it with u/Detoxification-. He probably has more patience and is better at getting his point across than me. All this is doing is pissing me off since I can't believe "men" like yourself can be so cucked and pathetic.
Argument is pursuit of truth; if you're getting angry by hearing opoosing views it could possibly be because you are mad that they conflict with what you want to believe. If you could actually prove to me your views are correct instead of calling me a cuck I would agree with you instead of getting mad, because all I want is the truth. I don't have an agenda. And getting pissed off in a civil debate where I haven't insulted you (though you have to me) is a sign of an emotional, feminized man and I would recommend reducing your soy consumption.
This is the third time I've told you to read the book I mentioned and it is also the third time you're gonna ignore it. Also jfl at believing anger and aggression is feminine. Your incredibly cucked views and hatred of your fellow men is an actual sign of a purely soy-based diet. Say hello to your wife's boyfriend for me won't ya?
Lol why are you so upset bro. A man that cannot control his emotions is definitely lost in the soy sauce. And saying "read the book" doesn't win any arguments. If you read it then I would assume you could debunk the points I've made. But just relax, take a deep breath, step away from your keyboard and do something fun instead of arguing with me, since you don't want to honestly debate anything I've said. Life is too short for this shit man
It's also natural for undesirables to rape women in order to keep a diverse gene pool, are you saying that we should allow what's "natural" to rule over us because that's not oppressive as monogamy?
If monogamy is so oppresive then why do women who choose to marry end up having more succesful children?
And I would further add that you probably don't give a fuck about other things that people were born into....
Wow bro so enlightened. And yet you want ME to make a sacrifice, while you sit on your chair feeling smug and shit, Fuck that.
I agree with most of the things you said. But I want to add that I don't think that angry young white men will accept the new matriarchy without uproar. The monthly (weekly? soon daily?) school and mass shootings of young men are the first symptoms of the new anger of a prevalently male and rejected youth who has no hope that things will get better anytime soon. I hate the American gun policy and conservatives in general but they are totally right here: This thing is not about gun control.
no no you don't get it - it's all about the babe robots - THE ROBOTS!! every woman will be scared to mess around with Chad, knowing if she waits too long for that nice solid guy he'll settle down with a robot!
Yeah because men wanting to fuck us makes us so privileged, just ignore the fact that women have always been and still are oppressed and regarded as less than men in every way. You people seem to think that life is so easy for women because we can easily get sex, but most women don’t want this, and male attention is something we dread and actively try to avoid. Men wanting to fuck us often manifests as men stalking and harassing us and compromising our safety. Women are raped and killed because of this, it in no way makes us privileged and the fact that men are completely oblivious to this is ridiculous.
It really isn’t though, it’s the truth. I’m actually well aware of what oppression is, and nobody wanting to fuck you definitely doesn’t quality as oppression in any way
Surely you’ve heard the ways in which women are oppressed before? I’m assuming you simply disagree (even though it’s a fact) so me spelling it out for you is just going to result in you ignorantly trying to dispute and poke holes in what I’m saying, so what’s the point?
So you’re involved in this subreddit dedicated to hating women, yet you’ve never even come across an argument about how women are oppressed? I mean, google is free, I advise you to do your own research
i'm not sure how casually browsing this subreddit is proof of anything except chronic loneliness being destructive for young men. guys like these have little to no impact on the real world. they're just a fantastic buzzword for online news outlets to use.
if you want to bring shooting statistics using ideologies as the variable into this discussion then you've already lost that debate, unfortunately. not to sound like a condescending prick, but the numbers favor me in this case. i just wanted some personal examples from you, that's all.
Most oppressed people should be able to give examples of ways in which they're oppressed since it should be memorable. If women are oppressed in general it should apply to you, yet it seems you're unable to give specific examples. You're just another woman making up their oppression like 99% of feminists today.
Oh no I’m very aware of the ways in which women are oppressed, it’s just an argument I’m very tired of having with ignorant men online y’know? The fact that you’re asking me specifically for this information and not just doing your own research just shows that you’re determined to not accept this argument so I’m not going to waste my time trying to sway your opinion
You can't make an argument by telling the opposing side to "do research" since you're supposed to be supporting your argument with research. Or else it's a pretty weak argument. If you didn't want to argue with "ignorant men" you shouldn't have commented in the first place.
He must be too oppressed to respond for herself so I will: air-conditioning, manspreading, mansplaining, equal pay for equal work, making up 10% of suicides, of the homeless, of workplace deaths. I could go on for days.
Yeah okay slut, go claim that the beliefs of the vast majority of the world are equal to believing in a flat earth in any serious setting and you'll be laughed out. (that's right, only a small number of mostly western feminists cry about oppression)
Not being able to be a whore without getting called a slut isn't oppression either. Now fuck off back to crying about how hard it is to be sexually desirable and to live life on the absolute easiest of modes in existance. Remember ONE IN FOUR women are homeless!
You don’t seriously think the vast majority of the world believes the same things you do right? Normal people are disgusted and in disbelief that people can actually believe the things the people in this sub do. It’s laughable, people honestly do see you as on the same level as flat earthers. It’s baffling how idiotic you are
Have you ever been outside the West? Or even outside your own liberal bubble? The vast majority of human beings in the world are not feminists, sorry to tell you lmao
Yeah they aren’t feminists, I’m aware of that. That’s the problem lol, women are widely seen as less than men. They don’t have the same warped idiotic views you do though
Feminism is a female supremacy movement that is destroying society. They most certainly do have the same views as me at least regarding monogamy, you don't even know the rest of my views. Also, you're just fat feminist slut who should fuck off considering you're not even here to argue nor do you belong here
No matter how many times you claim that, it doesn't mean it's true. It's not even comparable. Feminism is literally about changing the core of society and to feminists it's good change to me and a lot of other people it's destruction. You are so fucking stupid it's unreal.
It is true, that’s how stupid you sound. Feminism aims for gender equality, how are you negatively affected by this in any way? Because women having control of their own bodies means nobody will fuck you?
Me enjoying makeup doesn’t make me a mindless cunt, it’s good to have a hobby that isn’t complaining about being a virgin ;) you really need to grow up, I feel sorry for you
You being a mindless cunt makes you a mindless cunt. It's astonishing how little self awareness you have and how much of a cunt you are for coming here and complaining about being sexually desirable to a bunch of guys who have never been shown any interest from the opposite sex. Go read that book and realize what it's really like or continue your feminist delusions of oppression, I really don't give a shit.
Women are seen as less than men because they biologically and physiologically are. Men didn't wholly decide one day to "opress" women, we forged that idea through millions of years of evolution, the stronger, faster man goes out to hunt and explore and the woman stays at home with the village/tribe. That's how it is in 99% of other species as well. The west is a cucked place that has shifted that power to the woman, and society will fall as a result of hypergamy.
Oh god no, I’m in no way a radical feminist. I don’t see how pointing out that the vast majority of violence towards women comes from men makes me a radical feminist, it’s just a fact.
Suicide is of course an issue, but men committing suicide more than women is not a result of a society in which men are oppressed and women aren’t. I brought up domestic abuse statistics to parallel your suicide statistics argument and to point out that either side can throw out some facts that prove their point, but you can’t just look at these issues alone and ignore the bigger picture. You could argue that men have it worse than women from suicide statistics alone, and I can argue the opposite from domestic abuse statistics.
Domestic abuse absolutely has to do with gender. The vast majority of abuse is perpetrated by men against women. On average, two women are killed by their partner/ex partner every week in the UK. 92% of defendants in domestic abuse prosecutions are male and 83% of victims are women.
Suicide is of course an issue, but men committing suicide more than women is not a result of a society in which men are oppressed and women aren’t.
yeah, right. as if someone literally killing himself has nothing to do with oppression. when depression, allegedly, is more common on females. which in reality society tells men not to talk about their issues, that's why women appear to have more depression than men, but i digress.
> I brought up domestic abuse statistics to parallel your suicide statistics argument and to point out that either side can throw out some facts that prove their point
that's not a fair comparison. abuse is never a gender issue. what are you gonna tell a sociopath who abuses his wife? a normal man won't abuses others. its not a gender issue, its a mental issue. men are more abusive for reasons i don't know. but i think men being abusive has something to do with social pressure. but that's just my assumption.
> You could argue that men have it worse than women from suicide statistics alone, and I can argue the opposite from domestic abuse statistics.
what about moms being more abusive toward children than fathers? wanna talk about that?
besides, i might bring up the argument that men and women become abusive because their mothers treated them bad when they were young.
if you are a feminist, then why don't you talk about the issues that both genders face, instead of defending women? both men and women suffer from issues that need to be brought up. but now feminism has turned out to be a group that only cares about women and forget men's issues.
“As if someone killing himself has nothing to do with oppression”
Yeah, it doesn’t. As you said, women experience depression around 20-40% higher than men, and and women want to commit suicide more than men do - in 2007 7% of women had attempted suicide compared to only 4% of men. The reason men actually succeed in committing suicide more than women is due to the method they tend to opt for. Women usually use nonviolent means such as overdosing (which is more likely to fail), whereas men often use guns or hanging (obviously more successful).
So that kind of defeats your whole suicide argument altogether.
“abuse is never a gender issue. what are you gonna tell a sociopath who abuses his wife? a normal man won't abuses others.”
Abuse is 100% a gender issue. Please refer to the statistics in my last comment.
“if you are a feminist, then why don't you talk about the issues that both genders face, instead of defending women? both men and women suffer from issues that need to be brought up. but now feminism has turned out to be a group that only cares about women and forget men's issues. “
The whole point of feminism is to bring women up to the same level as men. It aims for gender equality, and as women are oppressed we need to focus on these issues in order to level the field and make us equal. That isn’t to say feminism doesn’t care about men’s issues, because it absolutely does. The goal is gender equality, it’s just that society is currently tilted in the favour of men so that’s where the focus of feminism lies.
no, women don't experince depression heigher than men. men tend to hide their emotions and not talk about it since they would appear "weak" if they really did then the suicide rate would be higher for women. i bet men expreince depression more than women.
no, the method argument is a bad one because it only applies to a certian countries. hell, probably only for the US. the most used suicide method for BOTH men and women in the US is suicide by a gun. the second most used is hanging for men then overdose for women. if we look into the suicide by gun only, then we would find that men commit suicide moee.
lets take japan for example. where both genders use the same methods for suicide. and you'd still find men killing themselves more. women "attempt" more because they fail more. not to include that over dosing on pills and puking it immediaity is considered an attempt.
if that's the only aim for feminism, then its useless. because men are not privileged, nor are women. both are privileged on some aspects. but feminist tend to ignore that. how about fixing these issues insted of aiming to be as "privileged" as men?
yeah, feminist don't care about mens issues. that's why a lot people tend to not take feminisim seriously. because they only care about one gender and not the other.
Women do experience depression more than men, but even if this wasn’t the case and men were more depressed, this isn’t due to oppression in society. Depression is just a chemical imbalance in the brain, it doesn’t develop due to social circumstances.
Men are privileged. Feminism does care about men’s issues.
then what is it? is it either than men are naturally tend to be more depressed than women but they tend to hide it and that study is not reliable, or its that men are more oppressed in society which causes them to be depressed and commit suicide more?
depression doesn't develop due social circumstances? what? yeah, right. a lot of mental illnesses are caused due to social circumstances. depressions can be genetic and environmental.
again, both men and women are privileged in some aspects. and yeah, you are a radical feminist, you fail to see that women have privileges over men and vise versa. you are just one sided. tell me, in which aspect do you want women to be as privileged as men?
depression is linked to more than just depression, you know. people with autism may fall into depression. people with social anxiety may fall into depression. people who are isolated fall into depression.
You have never been oppressed. But one day you might be, when you push men too hard. Bring that up as a topic of discussion in your next Women's Studies course.
Believing as "fact" that women are oppressed just makes you delusional and ignorant. You are the most privileged group of people in all of human history.
Truly. What must it be like to live in a world where you get the cream of the crop, pick of the litter when it comes to dating, where vast majority of alimony settlements are in your favor, where you get equal rights without equal responsibility, where you can start a fight with a man because you're equal, but when he retaliates, he can't hit you because you belong to a special protected class of people, where you never have to know what it feels like to be completely unwanted by everyone in society, and still feel like you're "oppressed"? Do dragons and unicorns also flit around in this world of yours?
I'm a girl (not a troll, promise, I'm legit) and I have to ask why you didn't offer a rebuttal? I agree with the majority of what he said so I'm intrigued as to what I would need to read in order to educate myself.
I didn’t offer a rebuttal because it would be a waste of my time, what I say isn’t going to change his firmly cemented mindset. You seem more open minded though so I’ll engage with you.
“You get the cream of the crop, pick of the litter when it comes to dating”
While I agree that women typically have an easier time when it comes to finding dates, to claim that this makes us more privileged than men is just absurd. Dating is such a minuscule part of life and you cant ignore the endless ways that women are oppressed just to claim that because we can easily have sex, that makes us privileged. If you refer to my original comment, I outline that male attention can often be very unwanted, aggressive and even frightening for a lot of women. Also this claim ignores the fact that there are women who are “incels” or that men would deem unattractive who have never been on date etc. To claim that all women can easily obtain sex/dates is just not true, and even if it was, so what? Men wanting women for sex isn’t anything for us to celebrate.
“The vast majority of alimony settlements are in your favour”
This one is true, and I agree that women benefit from sexism within the legal system. As a feminist I would advocate for this to change. However, this is usually the only argument by misogynists that “women are actually more privileged than men” that actually holds up, and ignores the millions of other ways that men dominate society and benefit from women’s subordination, so to take this one victory and call it a day is pretty ignorant.
“You get equal rights without equal responsibility”
How? Women contribute to society just as much as men do, arguably even more so since we make up half the labour force and also have the added responsibility of still doing the majority of work in the home regarding housework, childcare and emotional labour.
“You can start a fight with a man because you’re equal, but when he retaliates, he can’t hit you because you belong to a special protected class of people”
This is another common argument by misogynists to prove that women have it easier than men. Feminists aren’t going around saying that it’s fine for women to hurt men but they can’t hurt us back because we’re not as physically strong or whatever. The fact is it’s illegal for anybody to attack anybody, it’s assault. Why are men so obsessed with this argument? The sheer mention of feminism usually results in a man saying “oh so does this mean we can punch women?” Which to me is pretty unnerving. Personally i don’t think it’s okay for anyone to attack anyone, and I will agree that legally women do seem to get the benefit of the doubt and are always assumed to be the victim of assault when they’re up against a man, even if they are the one who attacked first. This is unfair and the legal system needs to be changed, which feminism is all for. The legal system tends to view women as weak and always the victim, which is sexist even if it benefits women in some cases such as this. However this is another very small example of women being more “privileged” than men, and ignores the bigger picture of women being seen as less than men in every other way. In this thread alone men are saying they genuinely believe women are inferior to men, surely that proves that society is misogynistic in itself?
“You never have to know what it feels like to be completely unwanted by everyone in society”
I would argue that incels aren’t even “completely unwanted by everyone in society” and this view stems from their deep self hatred and self deprecating views, as the vast majority of society is unaware that such a group even exists. Even if incels were hated by society, it would be directly because they are a hate group in the same way as nazis or the kkk, so even then it’s not as if they’re oppressed.
Women have to struggle twice as hard as men to be taken seriously and to get anywhere in life. We can’t and don’t use sex to get anywhere, you are delusional. Women have accomplished countless things, all the facts are easily accessible, you just don’t want to face the truth because it doesn’t support your deluded world view about how women are supposedly privileged
If you are a young straight white woman in the best, you are probably one of the most privileged persons in the world. Only attractive or rich white men may be more privileged than you, even that is debatable. As it is with any privileged group, if you are part of the group, you can't really see the privilege can you? That's why you guys make up dumb shit like mansplaining, manspreading etc. Because you run out of things to feel oppressed about. Even black feminists are realizing this now and calling you out on your shit. That's why White FeminismTM is a thing.
You’re assuming I’m young, straight and white. I am aware that white western people in general are privileged. Of course I am more privileged than others, I’m not claiming that I’m not. But to ignore that society as a whole is patriarchal is just completely ignorant. Men have always been regarded as superior to women and men still benefit from this deep ingrained bias.
Which you probably are, just statistically speaking from the demographics of reddit. Most of the people here are ugly ethnic men. So you are not going to win the oppression game here lol. Humans are social creatures and forming meaningful loving relationships is a core tenet of what it means to be human. This is difficult for ugly men and laughably easy for most women. So women are absolutely privileged in this regard. Of course you can't see this, as I said above, you are blinded by your privilege. How can you understand someone's struggle if you have never experienced it? Can a white woman claim she is more oppressed than a black man?
I’m young and white, but not straight. I’m not claiming that I’m more oppressed than people of other ethnicities, I’m fully aware that as a white western person I am very privileged. Women are not privileged because men want to fuck us. Men physically wanting us and even wanting a loving relationship with us does not make us privileged, like I said this is often something women dread and try to avoid due to the millions of cases of men not taking no for an answer and stalking, harassing and often getting physically violent with women who just aren’t interested in them.
Women have to struggle twice as hard as men to be taken seriously and to get anywhere in life.
No. Women have to struggle twice as hard as women have historically done to achieve anything. What you experience as a dramatic struggle is just what men have done since the beginning of time. Men have always worked hard, while women shucked corn at home, also hard work, but of a different, less productive kind.
We can’t and don’t use sex to get anywhere, you are delusional.
This is totally wrong. Maybe you believe what you are saying, so let me inform you of something real that dominates women's experiences, whether they know it or not.
Men give women a pass because they are attracted to them. Smart women, in turn, use sex to move up. It's called the casting couch, or sleeping to the top. This is not something I made up. It exists. It's real. Many women take advantage of that.
Please do not be in denial about such basic facts regarding the relationship between men and women.
Women have accomplished countless things, all the facts are easily accessible, you just don’t want to face the truth because it doesn’t support your deluded world view about how women are supposedly privileged
Compared to men, subtracting for the sake of argument all of "women's work" like child rearing, women have collectively amounted to nothing. Almost no accomplishment by a woman has not been overshadowed by a similar, prior, or subsequent accomplishment of a man. Numerically, the accomplishments of women are a drop in the ocean of male accomplishment. Sad but true. Hate it but believe it.
And it's not that I want to rub your nose in it. It's that feminism has forced me to draw your attention to this. I refuse to listen to women articulate a false history while beating men down. I refuse mansplaining and toxic masculinity. I'm sick of cheap women's studies discourse that accuse men of being the source of everything bad, while women have collectively amounted to nothing.
No. Women have to struggle twice as hard as women have historically done to achieve anything. What you experience as a dramatic struggle is just what men have done since the beginning of time. Men have always worked hard, while women shucked corn at home, also hard work, but of a different, less productive kind.
This is just pure ignorance. Women have achieved countless things throughout history despite being actively oppressed by men and society, having the same rights as children and no more, being forbidden to achieve an education or job, being labelled as hysterical and institutionalised or even lobotomised for having our own opinions or disagreeing with our husbands etc. Despite all of this, the things women have achieved are incredible, and for you to dismiss this is just idiotic.
This is totally wrong. Maybe you believe what you are saying, so let me inform you of something real that dominates women's experiences, whether they know it or not.
Men give women a pass because they are attracted to them. Smart women, in turn, use sex to move up. It's called the casting couch, or sleeping to the top. This is not something I made up. It exists. It's real. Many women take advantage of that.
Please do not be in denial about such basic facts regarding the relationship between men and women.
How the fuck would you know what “dominates women’s experiences”? I am a woman, you aren’t. I know what women experience, you don’t. I am an attractive woman, and the struggle I have had to get men to take me seriously professionally is infuriating. They don’t “give us a pass because we’re attractive”, they see that we’re attractive and nothing else and act according to that. A woman can be 10x as qualified, adept and knowledgeable than her male counterparts but the man in charge will only see her physical appearance, and if he decides to promote us or whatever because of that, that doesn’t make us privileged, it’s sexist and infuriating and definitely not something women actively try to accomplish in order to succeed. No woman is trying to “sleep up to the top”, the fact that you genuinely believe such an ancient sexist idea just shows how absolutely ignorant you are to women’s experiences, so don’t fucking try to tell me you know about this more than other women, because you just look like a fucking moron.
I’ve already responded to your “women have accomplished nothing” bullshit so I’m not wasting my time doing that again. Please educate yourself, you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
How the fuck would you know what “dominates women’s experiences”? I am a woman, you aren’t. I know what women experience, you don’t.
So you agree with me.
I began these rants pointing out that women should not disparage men about their emotional lives. This was not a comment out of left field, but directed to the quote by bell hooks, in conjunction with the latest fad to accuse men of toxic masculinity on the grounds their emotions are stunted.
Now your point is, since I'm not a woman I can say nothing about the experiences of women.
The logic works both ways. Since you are not a man, do not presume to understand the emotional lives of men.
See how you lose the argument?
Despite all of this, the things women have achieved are incredible, and for you to dismiss this is just idiotic.
The feminist dismissal of men's emotional lives is idiotic because men have consistently done more with their emotions than women. We may disagree about the reasons why, but the facts are indisputable.
The idea men are badly formed women, living emotionally stunted lives, requiring immediate therapeutic intervention is feminist propaganda. And as you can tell by now, it is not appreciated. At all.
you just look like a fucking moron.
Nothing in my post insulted you personally, but you go there. That's you.
"Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. It'll just knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut about like it's won anyway”
Mmmm....I would say that young, white/white-passing (or at least somewhat conventionally attractive) females are one of the most privileged classes in the West. Definitely not true in other parts of the world, and not true for say, fat black women in America. (In terms of overall privilege, not just "sexual privilege").
Even fat black women have it easy in 2018. I see it all the time on dating apps. Fat black women wearing expensive ass clothes basically escorting but usually asking for handouts.. and they wouldn't be asking unless they were receiving them.
They don't have those jobs because they don't need them. Women have never learned to work hard for anything in life. That's also the reason why they don't contribute anything to society or human progress. The list of female Nobel Prize winners is shorter than the list of men who got their PhD in gender studies.
Was do so many incels like anime? By the way - most girls I know find guys watching anime as a pretty huge turn-off (since it's mostly sexualised children - and don't say it isn't).
Not a single one of the happy and successful people I know in my life would spend any of their valuable time harassing a group of the lowest rungs of society. Your life probably isn't very good.
I think making observations of the disparity between the experiences of a 19 year old thot and a 19 year old guy is very important for incels - it validates their experiences of neglect and isolation as being caused by something beyond their own agency.
Why you feel the need to insult and get mad at a group of already depressed men speaks to something broken inside of yourself. I hope you feel better soon (or rope, idgaf)
Unsure where the insult was but I should have guessed you’d try and play the victim somehow. You calling a girl you’ve never met a “thot” speaks for itself. Stop being so angry at people you’ve never met because you hate yourself
you said this to try place blame upon incels for being in their situation, to imply they are lazy or otherwise to blame for their situation which really demonstrates your lack of understanding as to what an incel is
thot
The girl is implying she sleeps with a range of men, both married, single and underage. What is your definition of a ho, exactly?
Didn’t know faggots had girlfriends but kinda rich coming from an incel. Dude you’re clearly disturbed. Posting for advice on painless methods of suicide? You’re clearly not happy and I’d honestly like it if you seemed help. Demeaning women in the internet won’t help you.
even realise how ugly the dudes a girl this scuffed has hitting on her are?
Probably more than the number of ugly girls hitting on me... but anything is more than 0. She's got it good, she's got it really good. I'd love to have ugly girls hitting on me all the time.
Don't paint her privilege as something "bad"; it isn't, and most of us would give everything we have to be in her position.
Wall just means as she ages her pools of Chad (and therefore self esteem) gets smaller as she ages. Not that she turns into a goblin at 30. Yeah a 30-year-old Chad may fuck her but why commit when he can also commit to other younger women.
It will not matter, she'll have had 20-30 years of happy and fullfilling romantic life by the time the "wall" hits. Now imagine the life of her incel looksmatch during all those years (assuming he doesn't rope early on). The wall is cope.
She already hit the wall since she was born, just look at how ugly she is...In a normal world she shouldnt get anyone other then obese ugly guys to hit on her...Yet she got hundred of guys which are good looking hitting on her...Thats just how fucked up our society and dating scene is.
Your country is going down the drain whilst I can move to Israel and marry up a frum wife. Have fun disappearing down the asshole of history, as you deserve ;)
Well it’s trauma for her because most of the guys who hit on her are not Chad. Maybe we can start a gofundme for her therapy until unwanted interest by men is made illegal
there's something very wrong with society when the contrast pertaining to quality (and ease) of life is so drastically different between a 19 year old male and a 19 year old female
I do just fine, thank you. I find myself agreeing with incel views on women though because I'm not a beta orbiter fuck like you who feels the need to encourage women to act like sluts. These bitches need to be patrolled.
I know 7-8/10 girls. They experience this, but below the level she is experiencing it. So I find it hard to believe a 4/10 girl experiences all of this.
Someone else explained it better elsewhere in this thread, but I'll give it my best: Men assume that a woman who's less attractive like the girl in OP will have lower standards and be less picky, so they're more likely to pursue her rather than someone else. What happens, then, when you have a bunch of unsuccessful guys who all think the same way? What happens is she gets a ton of suitors, and her ego skyrockets into Jupiter's orbit.
And then she has as much obiters and Jupiter herself...
Thanks, I see now. Makes a lot of sense. Someone else responded with Juggernaut's law. First time I heard of that, it's basically what you're saying.
It reminds me of the advice that it's better to approach attractive women because most other men are too scared to so. But I disagree because I know a lot of dudes who have no shame or fear and approach out of their league.
a lot of dudes who have no shame or fear and approach out of their league.
And this, combined with Juggernaut's Law, shows exactly why women can't be Forever Alone or incel, and why men at the bottom will remain incel and Forever Alone, because we will always have better-looking competition no matter who we pursue.
This happens because guys think that a less attractive woman won't be as picky, so you end up with a girl like this who is being approached by all guys thinking the same thing.
If a woman is below average height, has wonky teeth, Dumbo ears, this makes guys feel like they have a CHANCE with her, as opposed to if she were more "perfect", less flawed. So this means that even girls that are AVERAGE and BELOW still have guys hitting on them. You can't stop a woman's dating potential. She is like The Juggernaut. If she is a single mum, then more guys will think they are being her prince charming by rescuing her from all the "other bad, bad men out there". She is UNSTOPPABLE. Any flaw she has JUST MAKES HER STRONGER in the dating world.
"Go for your looksmatch." I tried arguing this on PPD and other places, and the morons don't seem to get it. Your looks-matched women, at most, will give you a LTR, and never allow non-Chad men to ride you as a part of the cock carousel. In other words, you are not a sexual being but a utility and a package deal kind of man.
Notice that no one here is trying to date this girl. She's bragging about dudes trying to play her. 17 year olds trying to get laid, 26 year olds trying to get laid, and 32 year olds cheating on their wives. Worse yet, she practically admits to going along with the 32 year old who "misses" her now.
Yes. She just doesn’t notice from the constant attnetion she gets. It’s women’s mania that men only want to fuck them. No, we are humans too, we want emotional connections too, despite the shit you say.
She is just sad no 10/10 Chad offers her undying commitment. The sad life of roasties. Rip.
She also referred to 26 year olds who would like to have her over for dinner. Of course, they only want to fuck her. That’s literally the only thing men are capable of, right?
I'm a 26 year old. If I'm interested in a woman I'll take her out. If I'm not, I'll invite her to my place for a drink. I don't know why you're all taking this as an insult to men. I didn't say that all men are like this. I said that she's not bragging about any sort of substantial interaction. I'm saying that this chick should be embarrassed to brag about this. I'm not defending her at all. The complete opposite actually.
You fucking white knight piece of shit trash. I'm so sick of you white knights. Women can do no wrong, right? M'lady. You go ahead and say married men are only looking for sex, but go ahead and clearly ignore guys in their mid 20s who have shown interest in her taking her to dinner, but yeah...all of them only want sex, right? Fucking idiot you are. Fuck off.
I didn't stand up for any women here. I said they say all of the things that you think they're saying but they aren't saying them here. Lots of women are into rape fantasies. But this isn't a rape fantasy in any way. It's a poem about a relationship ending. You are raging about nothing.
I didn't defend this woman for shit. I actually said that she's bragging about some shit that should be embarrassing to her. My point was that she is in the wrong here. You are raging about nothing.
I’m not going to downvote you because voting on comments in Reddit is fuckin gay but I will say that your comment doesn’t really make any sense and you come across as incoherent. Try contribute with something better structured in future.
maybe people should start learning when its time to settle. To be honest, if you think you're unattractive when looking in a mirror chances are some girls probably think like that too. just need to find the girls who are more compatible and suitable for your own looks and features :)
Im not sure what your comment has to do with the OP. Regardless, I consider myself to be attractive yet not a chad (I’m around a 6) yet a 6 female can easily attain a 9 chad. Therefore I have to slum it for a 1-2 and even those are liable to cuck for chad. Your comment misapprehends the inflation of female value in the sexual marketplace in the instagram age when any girl can pout and pose in pornographic, licentious indecency and attract a horny chad.
Should I ‘settle’ for an ogre of a woman just because I am not in the top 5% of men? Of course not. Should I be outraged at the ease with which roasties circumvent the natural order to bypass my average appearance? I believe so, especially when society reinforces this idea of female empowerment to the degree of enabling a harem world. ‘Settling’ will not resolve the issue for a lot of men either. Why should I settle for my looksmatch once she’s in her 30s and whithering - she hasn’t given me the beauty of her youth so why should I settle for the scraps that remain? No thanks. No, I’ll instead rage against this perversion of nature that operates in service of barren roastie pussy.
First of all, Its nice to see that you consider yourself attractive. I feel like thats the type of uplifting confidence some people on this subreddit need. Asides from that, I have a really hard time believing you'd have to settle for a 1-2. I consider myself to be above average too but definitely on the skinnier side. Even still, I have honestly never felt like I had to settle for an unattractive woman. I have been with girls from different types of races too (wanna taste all colors of the rainbow LOL) Sure, I can't just slide in a girls DM's who has over a thousand followers on her instagram but that's okay! Not every can haha. Asides from that I think that idea of all girls only wanting the top 4019% is men is a misconception. In my experience, majority if not all woman want their partners to be solely for them, why would they ever want to share one man? Mr.Lambert, I am sure that in the future when you've found yourself a nice girl, you'll look back at this and laugh at how much things can change in 1-2 years :)
So she gets lots of offers of sex/people trying to play her. That happenes to anyone with a vagina that seems easy to fool, especially young girls. How is that a good thing? None of these guys would ever want to date or commit to her.
Her face is so fucking bloated I thought it was a snapchat filter at first. If she really does look like that and she experiences what she does then it's literally over
I think she's full of shit to be honest. I'm not an Incel. I'm a million miles from what you lot call "Chad" - like not even fucking close. But I had some attention from girls when I was that age (in 30s) now.
I'm guessing each of those things she is saying refers to exactly one, specific example - and probably not all happening at same time either.
That's why she used exact numbers 17,26,32. And regarding the '32' - attracting dudes 30+ when you're a teenage girl is not really a brag.
I was probably a 5 or 6 outta 10 at that age (not a 'bad' looking face, but terrible body, but also tall). 6 foot, but skinny as a twig, like freakishly skinny (i've put on some weight now, 30kg since that age and I'm still skinny). I was 6'-6'1 somewhere around there and I weight 50-54kg - stick that in your BMI calc.
Anyway - I knocked back girls like that. There's no way her love life is going that great. Don't get me wrong, chicks - like her - get can sex whenever they want, that's just a perk of being a chick, a guy wanting to nut will pretty well fuck anyone. But - she'd have a hard time getting a good guy as a 'keeper'. Seriously.
The fact that she's posting this shit at all says a lot.
Yeah okay slut, go claim that the beliefs of the vast majority of the world are equal to believing in a flat earth in any serious setting and you'll be laughed out. (that's right, only a small number of mostly western feminists cry about oppression)
Not being able to be a whore without getting called a slut isn't oppression either. Now fuck off back to crying about how hard it is to be sexually desirable and to live life on the absolute easiest of modes in existance. Remember ONE IN FOUR women are homeless!
You don’t seriously think the vast majority of the world believes the same things you do right? Normal people are disgusted and in disbelief that people can actually believe the things the people in this sub do. It’s laughable, people honestly do see you as on the same level as flat earthers. It’s baffling how idiotic you are
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1 WahmenMustDIe 2018-05-19
Life on EASY mode
1 DEPTHERROR 2018-05-19
In store demo mode.
1 AprilYi20 2018-05-19
console hacked god mode
1 cadet88 2018-05-19
I'm here on veteran and this chick plays life on recruit
1 RegisteredLolicon 2018-05-19
I play on realistic. Fucking 1hit kills from roasties
1 Zandonus 2018-05-19
They don't bother killing me, because i'm just that harmless.
1 EvilBananaManRD 2018-05-19
I don't even have a console and this chick has a beta beat the game for her.
1 LinksLight 2018-05-19
we're tiny Mario with broken pad buttons and she's on Yoshi with every single mushroom, water jet pack and racoon tail
1 Thataveragedude22 2018-05-19
I must be on hell mode then,even looking roasties kills me.
1 maskedcel 2018-05-19
Dimensional mode. Even breathing a molecule in the direction of a femoid does 50% damage.
1 Orig_analUse_rname 2018-05-19
Tutorial mode.
1 toomanynames1998 2018-05-19
This woman appears to be physically unattractive. For some reason men tend on foaming whenever an unattractive female appears. Disgusting.
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-19
Male thirst is a curse
1 Hoeasss 2018-05-19
I'm on ultra nightmare mode, can't even die once
1 Sniveling_Cur 2018-05-19
ironman
1 Petherow 2018-05-19
Tutorial mode
1 thumpar72 2018-05-19
tutorial island.
1 lonely_suicidal_cel 2018-05-19
She is using a bot to complete tutorial island
1 Trumpisagoldengod 2018-05-19
Yep, some people have it easy. Weird how homeless people bitch less about ppl being born into wealth then y'all do about looks though
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1 oksidasyon 2018-05-19
stacys play on arcade mode we on Ultra realistic simulator mod
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
There is no organism on this earth more privileged than the young human female.
The society that has let them take full advantage of this with no consequences is not a society that will last . It's a society that will not last and the sooner we destroy it the better.
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
Society thrown away to give a group of selfish 19 year old girls their tingles.
1 DirtyBristolBoi 2018-05-19
And people thought the Indians got screwed when they sold Manhattan...
1 singlemalelookingfor 2018-05-19
maybe if all men weren’t so horny for almost any female then females wouldn’t have it so easy in terms of sex? let’s stay strong brothers
1 Blekpill 2018-05-19
This is useless unless you're Chad
1 singlemalelookingfor 2018-05-19
decent women don’t need a chad if you treat them decently
1 Blekpill 2018-05-19
Until they ovulate
1 sleepingforever1 2018-05-19
Historians from the future are going to look at us like we were insane.
1 based_meme 2018-05-19
You mean technologically advanced aliens. We won't be around fully realize the femoid mistake.
1 butts_mckinley 2018-05-19
It is more likely that you will be a virgin saltily posting on reddit for the rest of your life than managing to destroy society and bring about government mandated girlfriends
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
Cope
1 butts_mckinley 2018-05-19
Am I wrong though? What is your guy's solution?
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
It doesn't matter what I say, you're fuelled up on soy and ready to defend m'ladies and the status quo so there's really no point in arguing with you.
1 butts_mckinley 2018-05-19
Whatever you propose would probably infringe upon the right of women to be intimate with who they want as free individuals. As a soy consuming cuck I would have to agree with you that I am not in favor of curtailing these freedoms.
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
Let me guess; women get to ride the cock carousel and take advantage of their privilege to the fullest like in the OP, degeneracy like eating shit and drinking period blood or consenting to cuckoldry is empowering and healthy and whatever happens to the rest of society doesn't matter at all, the sexual revolution was a great thing and monogamy is oppressive.
Something along those lines, right?
1 butts_mckinley 2018-05-19
I believe that monogamy is oppressive, though not for whatever reasons you might ascribe to me. I don't think it is natural for most people to be sexual attracted and want to be with one person for 30, 40, 50 plus years. I get bored fapping to the same woman more than 3 nights in a row. Of course, if people want to do it then it's OK with me.
Consuming shit and blood is disgusting but again if people want to do it in the privacy of their home and are not bothering anyone else then I don't care.
And as for your first point, I would say that the developments from the sixties up until the modern day have made it much easier for females to have more control in their sexual behavior. They can now use technology to more easily select for the men with genetic traits that are universally desired, like height, fair skin color, beautiful features. But you already know this. This has disenfranchised millions of men who weren't fortunate enough to posess them. Unfortunate though this may be, it has been the nature of women to do this for thousands of years, just as you as a male would look for big ass and titties. We are the victims of natural selection, a force that is unnatural to fight. All you can currently do is try to increase your appeal, because women do not owe every man sex, and to enforce otherwise would be tyranny. That is how I see it. And I would further add that you probably don't give a fuck about other things that people were born into that fuck them over in life, like people in third world countries that suffer so we can perpetuate our standard of living. They never had a chance at a good life. But you only care about what affects you, not being able to get a gf
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
Lol, you literally admit the blackpill is true and then defend the status quo just like I expected you to do. Women used to have sexual freedom and that predates civilization. When civilization formed, monogamy was enforced and the nuclear family was conceptualized. This is the backbone of all human progress. Before it, we were just apes barely managing to survive. There is too much shit to argue against here but basically you are admitting that my original comment was true except you are supposedly disagreeing with the fact that it will lead to disaster and the fall of civilization as a whole. You unironically think that 80% or whatever of men will be fine with living sexless lives while women form harems with the Chads and you are HAPPY that it's easier than ever for them to do this. You actually think this is sustainable and healthy.
I really haveno reason to continue this conversation with you as it won't lead anywhere. You're just another sex-positive liberal who doesn't give a shit and believes in absolute personal freedom no matter the consequences, whether long or short term.
1 butts_mckinley 2018-05-19
You misconstrue or assume a bunch of things here, which I will labor to correct: I am not happy that most women want to be with a minority of attractive men. I accept that it is natural for them to want to do this. It is literally natural selection. I don't want to force women into relationships they don't want to be in, it's stupid, counterproductive, and will lead to both unhappy men and women.
Monogamy did not arise in all civilizations, it is not a universal value that must be upheld. It is not "the backbone of all human progress." In all of the societies where monogamy was the norm, men and women would cheat on their spouse, as they felt it contrary to their nature to be true to one person. Also, some of the world's greatest philosophers, thinkers, scientists and artists, the people who actually push civilization forward, were incels, gay, or polyamorous. And do you really think as lifespans elongate that people in the future will want to stay with one man or woman, for hundreds or thousands of years?
If a man absolutely needs sex then he can pay for it. If he needs the comfort of a relationship he will not get it from a woman forced to mate with him at the barrel of a soldier's gun or the stroke of a politician's pen. The woman will resent him all the years of her life, and provide no emotional succor. This can be observed in east european societies that practice ritual bridal kidnapping. The woman cries for days after she is captured, and deteriorates into an emotionless zombie state that would shrivel my dick if I were her husband. This is the result of nonconsensual marriage, that no reasonable man should want.
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
Ahahaha WE WUZ KANGS polamory/gay edition. You are absolutely ridiculous and your claims have no basis in reality. Also the comments about Eastern Europe is some of the funniest and most untrue shit I've ever heard especially considering I have family there. Just fucking lol.
You should read Sex and Culture by J. D. Unwin if you actually want to educate yourself on the importance of monogamy and why it isn't oppressive and why restricted sexual freedom is crucial instead of spouting this dumb shit. Good riddance
1 butts_mckinley 2018-05-19
Idk why facts you don't like make you so upset. I wrote all this to see if you could give me some insight I hadn't considered, and you respond with the typical right wing white guy in western civilization mindset. It is a fact that many civilizations existed and exist that do not enforce monogamy, but they don't count because they are not your preferred civilization or aren't advanced enough. The polyamorous Maori killed lions with only some sharpened sticks and their courage. Bridal kidnappings occur in Kyrgyzstan to this day; I am not exactly sure if it is an eastern European or eurasian nation or whatever, sorry to have bothered you so much about that, I was just bringing it up as a useful example of what happens to women when they are forced against their will to marry someone; they become like slaves almost, completely sapped of their emotional well being by a sadness that never goes away.
Restricted sexual freedom is the definition of oppressive, you are limiting a woman's freedoms so that a beta she doesn't really love can get married, who she'll probably cheat on at some point. You can't bring back the fifties and outlaw tinder or whatever the fuck. Society has evolved and is trimming the fat. I am sorry if you can't find a girl that wants to be with you, it's very sad, but forcing them to will not give you what you need, which is the comfort that comes with the honest love of a consensual relationship.
1 butts_mckinley 2018-05-19
Idk why facts you don't like make you so upset. I wrote all this to see if you could give me some insight I hadn't considered, and you respond with the typical right wing white guy in western civilization mindset. It is a fact that many civilizations existed and exist that do not enforce monogamy, but they don't count because they are not your preferred civilization or aren't advanced enough. The polyamorous Maori killed lions with only some sharpened sticks and their courage. Bridal kidnappings occur in Kyrgyzstan to this day; I am not exactly sure if it is an eastern European or eurasian nation or whatever, sorry to have bothered you so much about that, I was just bringing it up as a useful example of what happens to women when they are forced against their will to marry someone; they become like slaves almost, completely sapped of their emotional well being by a sadness that never goes away.
Restricted sexual freedom is the definition of oppressive, you are limiting a woman's freedoms so that a beta she doesn't really love can get married, who she'll probably cheat on at some point. You can't bring back the fifties and outlaw tinder or whatever the fuck. Society has evolved and is trimming the fat. I am sorry if you can't find a girl that wants to be with you, it's very sad, but forcing them to will not give you what you need, which is the comfort that comes with the honest love of a consensual relationship.
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
Read the book, retard. Stop claiming women are oppressed under enforced monogamy and stop assuming it is literal slavery and that the women born under such a society would be today's empowered white feminist whores. I am not even "white" and I know first hand what non-Western life is like for women. I'm sick or arguing this shit with you, if you want to argue this further I recommend doing it with u/Detoxification-. He probably has more patience and is better at getting his point across than me. All this is doing is pissing me off since I can't believe "men" like yourself can be so cucked and pathetic.
1 butts_mckinley 2018-05-19
Argument is pursuit of truth; if you're getting angry by hearing opoosing views it could possibly be because you are mad that they conflict with what you want to believe. If you could actually prove to me your views are correct instead of calling me a cuck I would agree with you instead of getting mad, because all I want is the truth. I don't have an agenda. And getting pissed off in a civil debate where I haven't insulted you (though you have to me) is a sign of an emotional, feminized man and I would recommend reducing your soy consumption.
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
This is the third time I've told you to read the book I mentioned and it is also the third time you're gonna ignore it. Also jfl at believing anger and aggression is feminine. Your incredibly cucked views and hatred of your fellow men is an actual sign of a purely soy-based diet. Say hello to your wife's boyfriend for me won't ya?
1 butts_mckinley 2018-05-19
Lol why are you so upset bro. A man that cannot control his emotions is definitely lost in the soy sauce. And saying "read the book" doesn't win any arguments. If you read it then I would assume you could debunk the points I've made. But just relax, take a deep breath, step away from your keyboard and do something fun instead of arguing with me, since you don't want to honestly debate anything I've said. Life is too short for this shit man
1 DoshLaunderSpic 2018-05-19
It's also natural for undesirables to rape women in order to keep a diverse gene pool, are you saying that we should allow what's "natural" to rule over us because that's not oppressive as monogamy?
If monogamy is so oppresive then why do women who choose to marry end up having more succesful children?
Wow bro so enlightened. And yet you want ME to make a sacrifice, while you sit on your chair feeling smug and shit, Fuck that.
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Hey, DoshLaunderSpic, just a quick heads-up:
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1 butts_mckinley 2018-05-19
Rape is a natural occurrence among civilized humans wut
1 Hal_Inceldenza 2018-05-19
I agree with most of the things you said. But I want to add that I don't think that angry young white men will accept the new matriarchy without uproar. The monthly (weekly? soon daily?) school and mass shootings of young men are the first symptoms of the new anger of a prevalently male and rejected youth who has no hope that things will get better anytime soon. I hate the American gun policy and conservatives in general but they are totally right here: This thing is not about gun control.
1 butts_mckinley 2018-05-19
Real recognize real playa
1 LinksLight 2018-05-19
no no you don't get it - it's all about the babe robots - THE ROBOTS!! every woman will be scared to mess around with Chad, knowing if she waits too long for that nice solid guy he'll settle down with a robot!
http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/features/interviews/julie-higginson/julie_higginson_2.jpg
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
Yeah because men wanting to fuck us makes us so privileged, just ignore the fact that women have always been and still are oppressed and regarded as less than men in every way. You people seem to think that life is so easy for women because we can easily get sex, but most women don’t want this, and male attention is something we dread and actively try to avoid. Men wanting to fuck us often manifests as men stalking and harassing us and compromising our safety. Women are raped and killed because of this, it in no way makes us privileged and the fact that men are completely oblivious to this is ridiculous.
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
Yeah life on easy mode truly is oppression :( it totally sucks being hit on by subhumans when Chad is the only one I want :((
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
Denying the fact that women are oppressed just makes you delusional and ignorant. You’re on the same mental level as a flat earther or an anti-vaxxer
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
Haha that's an absolutely fucking ridiculous claim and you know it. You don't even know what oppression is you fucking piece of shit.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
It really isn’t though, it’s the truth. I’m actually well aware of what oppression is, and nobody wanting to fuck you definitely doesn’t quality as oppression in any way
1 sonoffuck 2018-05-19
not the same guy but can you explain how you’re oppressed on a day-to-day basis just to give everyone an idea
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
Surely you’ve heard the ways in which women are oppressed before? I’m assuming you simply disagree (even though it’s a fact) so me spelling it out for you is just going to result in you ignorantly trying to dispute and poke holes in what I’m saying, so what’s the point?
1 sonoffuck 2018-05-19
i don’t disagree or agree since i have never seen it take place. just wanted to get some examples.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
So you’re involved in this subreddit dedicated to hating women, yet you’ve never even come across an argument about how women are oppressed? I mean, google is free, I advise you to do your own research
1 sonoffuck 2018-05-19
i'm not sure how casually browsing this subreddit is proof of anything except chronic loneliness being destructive for young men. guys like these have little to no impact on the real world. they're just a fantastic buzzword for online news outlets to use.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
Yeah because the shootings don’t count as this subreddit having an impact
1 sonoffuck 2018-05-19
if you want to bring shooting statistics using ideologies as the variable into this discussion then you've already lost that debate, unfortunately. not to sound like a condescending prick, but the numbers favor me in this case. i just wanted some personal examples from you, that's all.
1 12AaronJones21 2018-05-19
Most oppressed people should be able to give examples of ways in which they're oppressed since it should be memorable. If women are oppressed in general it should apply to you, yet it seems you're unable to give specific examples. You're just another woman making up their oppression like 99% of feminists today.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
Oh no I’m very aware of the ways in which women are oppressed, it’s just an argument I’m very tired of having with ignorant men online y’know? The fact that you’re asking me specifically for this information and not just doing your own research just shows that you’re determined to not accept this argument so I’m not going to waste my time trying to sway your opinion
1 12AaronJones21 2018-05-19
You can't make an argument by telling the opposing side to "do research" since you're supposed to be supporting your argument with research. Or else it's a pretty weak argument. If you didn't want to argue with "ignorant men" you shouldn't have commented in the first place.
1 Chadbutblackpilled 2018-05-19
Ok so when was the last time you were opressed? Can you describe what exactly happened?
1 ledditorxD 2018-05-19
A sub 7 whistled at her.
1 sfcel 2018-05-19
You mean just happened to exist in her immediate vicinity.
1 Sun_Praiser_420 2018-05-19
Or how about you actually answer his question instead of saying "go research".
1 PanderjitSingh 2018-05-19
He must be too oppressed to respond for herself so I will: air-conditioning, manspreading, mansplaining, equal pay for equal work, making up 10% of suicides, of the homeless, of workplace deaths. I could go on for days.
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
Yeah okay slut, go claim that the beliefs of the vast majority of the world are equal to believing in a flat earth in any serious setting and you'll be laughed out. (that's right, only a small number of mostly western feminists cry about oppression) Not being able to be a whore without getting called a slut isn't oppression either. Now fuck off back to crying about how hard it is to be sexually desirable and to live life on the absolute easiest of modes in existance. Remember ONE IN FOUR women are homeless!
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1 rachulll 2018-05-19
You don’t seriously think the vast majority of the world believes the same things you do right? Normal people are disgusted and in disbelief that people can actually believe the things the people in this sub do. It’s laughable, people honestly do see you as on the same level as flat earthers. It’s baffling how idiotic you are
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
Have you ever been outside the West? Or even outside your own liberal bubble? The vast majority of human beings in the world are not feminists, sorry to tell you lmao
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
Yeah they aren’t feminists, I’m aware of that. That’s the problem lol, women are widely seen as less than men. They don’t have the same warped idiotic views you do though
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
Feminism is a female supremacy movement that is destroying society. They most certainly do have the same views as me at least regarding monogamy, you don't even know the rest of my views. Also, you're just fat feminist slut who should fuck off considering you're not even here to argue nor do you belong here
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
“Feminism is a female supremacy movement that is destroying society” = “the earth is flat and vaccines cause autism”
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
No matter how many times you claim that, it doesn't mean it's true. It's not even comparable. Feminism is literally about changing the core of society and to feminists it's good change to me and a lot of other people it's destruction. You are so fucking stupid it's unreal.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
It is true, that’s how stupid you sound. Feminism aims for gender equality, how are you negatively affected by this in any way? Because women having control of their own bodies means nobody will fuck you?
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
Read Sex and Culture if you want to know why sexual freedom is disasterous or fuck off back to talking about makeup like the mindless cunt you are.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
Me enjoying makeup doesn’t make me a mindless cunt, it’s good to have a hobby that isn’t complaining about being a virgin ;) you really need to grow up, I feel sorry for you
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-19
Is that virgin shaming I detect?
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
No no, there’s nothing wrong with being a virgin, it’s the entitlement and blaming everyone else for this that’s the problem
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
You being a mindless cunt makes you a mindless cunt. It's astonishing how little self awareness you have and how much of a cunt you are for coming here and complaining about being sexually desirable to a bunch of guys who have never been shown any interest from the opposite sex. Go read that book and realize what it's really like or continue your feminist delusions of oppression, I really don't give a shit.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
Sure pal
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-19
Lol I can only wish you breast cancer.
1 Moist___ 2018-05-19
Women are seen as less than men because they biologically and physiologically are. Men didn't wholly decide one day to "opress" women, we forged that idea through millions of years of evolution, the stronger, faster man goes out to hunt and explore and the woman stays at home with the village/tribe. That's how it is in 99% of other species as well. The west is a cucked place that has shifted that power to the woman, and society will fall as a result of hypergamy.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
You genuinely believe that women are just inferior to men?
1 Moist___ 2018-05-19
Biologically and physiologically yes, I do.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-19
Lol women are incomplete humans, a incomplete version of men.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
How? We are the same species as you. Our biological sex changes nothing.
1 lambcel 2018-05-19
More than half of us are minorities which automatically makes us far more opressed than you'll ever be.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-19
Women are inferior.
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-19
just look at the suicide stactics.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
How about domestic abuse statistics?
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-19
oh so you are one of these kinds of feminists.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
One of what kind of feminists?
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-19
tha radical ones.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
Oh god no, I’m in no way a radical feminist. I don’t see how pointing out that the vast majority of violence towards women comes from men makes me a radical feminist, it’s just a fact.
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-19
then why did bring up domestic abuse as if suicide is not an issue? domestic abuse has nothing to do with gender.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
Suicide is of course an issue, but men committing suicide more than women is not a result of a society in which men are oppressed and women aren’t. I brought up domestic abuse statistics to parallel your suicide statistics argument and to point out that either side can throw out some facts that prove their point, but you can’t just look at these issues alone and ignore the bigger picture. You could argue that men have it worse than women from suicide statistics alone, and I can argue the opposite from domestic abuse statistics.
Domestic abuse absolutely has to do with gender. The vast majority of abuse is perpetrated by men against women. On average, two women are killed by their partner/ex partner every week in the UK. 92% of defendants in domestic abuse prosecutions are male and 83% of victims are women.
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-19
yeah, right. as if someone literally killing himself has nothing to do with oppression. when depression, allegedly, is more common on females. which in reality society tells men not to talk about their issues, that's why women appear to have more depression than men, but i digress.
> I brought up domestic abuse statistics to parallel your suicide statistics argument and to point out that either side can throw out some facts that prove their point
that's not a fair comparison. abuse is never a gender issue. what are you gonna tell a sociopath who abuses his wife? a normal man won't abuses others. its not a gender issue, its a mental issue. men are more abusive for reasons i don't know. but i think men being abusive has something to do with social pressure. but that's just my assumption.
> You could argue that men have it worse than women from suicide statistics alone, and I can argue the opposite from domestic abuse statistics.
what about moms being more abusive toward children than fathers? wanna talk about that?
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/kids/why-arent-we-talking-about-abusive-mums/news-story/629b48b93abd22be2b63f1344c0c5de6
https://mkg4583.wordpress.com/2009/09/01/mothers-abuse-children-3-times-more-than-dads-federal-hhs-statistics/amp/
besides, i might bring up the argument that men and women become abusive because their mothers treated them bad when they were young.
if you are a feminist, then why don't you talk about the issues that both genders face, instead of defending women? both men and women suffer from issues that need to be brought up. but now feminism has turned out to be a group that only cares about women and forget men's issues.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
“As if someone killing himself has nothing to do with oppression” Yeah, it doesn’t. As you said, women experience depression around 20-40% higher than men, and and women want to commit suicide more than men do - in 2007 7% of women had attempted suicide compared to only 4% of men. The reason men actually succeed in committing suicide more than women is due to the method they tend to opt for. Women usually use nonviolent means such as overdosing (which is more likely to fail), whereas men often use guns or hanging (obviously more successful).
Source: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2015/jan/21/suicide-gender-men-women-mental-health-nick-clegg
So that kind of defeats your whole suicide argument altogether.
“abuse is never a gender issue. what are you gonna tell a sociopath who abuses his wife? a normal man won't abuses others.” Abuse is 100% a gender issue. Please refer to the statistics in my last comment.
“if you are a feminist, then why don't you talk about the issues that both genders face, instead of defending women? both men and women suffer from issues that need to be brought up. but now feminism has turned out to be a group that only cares about women and forget men's issues. “ The whole point of feminism is to bring women up to the same level as men. It aims for gender equality, and as women are oppressed we need to focus on these issues in order to level the field and make us equal. That isn’t to say feminism doesn’t care about men’s issues, because it absolutely does. The goal is gender equality, it’s just that society is currently tilted in the favour of men so that’s where the focus of feminism lies.
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-19
no, women don't experince depression heigher than men. men tend to hide their emotions and not talk about it since they would appear "weak" if they really did then the suicide rate would be higher for women. i bet men expreince depression more than women.
no, the method argument is a bad one because it only applies to a certian countries. hell, probably only for the US. the most used suicide method for BOTH men and women in the US is suicide by a gun. the second most used is hanging for men then overdose for women. if we look into the suicide by gun only, then we would find that men commit suicide moee.
lets take japan for example. where both genders use the same methods for suicide. and you'd still find men killing themselves more. women "attempt" more because they fail more. not to include that over dosing on pills and puking it immediaity is considered an attempt.
if that's the only aim for feminism, then its useless. because men are not privileged, nor are women. both are privileged on some aspects. but feminist tend to ignore that. how about fixing these issues insted of aiming to be as "privileged" as men?
yeah, feminist don't care about mens issues. that's why a lot people tend to not take feminisim seriously. because they only care about one gender and not the other.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
Women do experience depression more than men, but even if this wasn’t the case and men were more depressed, this isn’t due to oppression in society. Depression is just a chemical imbalance in the brain, it doesn’t develop due to social circumstances.
Men are privileged. Feminism does care about men’s issues.
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-19
then what is it? is it either than men are naturally tend to be more depressed than women but they tend to hide it and that study is not reliable, or its that men are more oppressed in society which causes them to be depressed and commit suicide more?
depression doesn't develop due social circumstances? what? yeah, right. a lot of mental illnesses are caused due to social circumstances. depressions can be genetic and environmental.
again, both men and women are privileged in some aspects. and yeah, you are a radical feminist, you fail to see that women have privileges over men and vise versa. you are just one sided. tell me, in which aspect do you want women to be as privileged as men?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norah_Vincent
you should look into this to give you a woman's prospective after putting herself in a mans shoes.
depression is not environmental:
http://depressionhurts.ca/en/about/causes.aspx
depression is linked to more than just depression, you know. people with autism may fall into depression. people with social anxiety may fall into depression. people who are isolated fall into depression.
1 hirayama_ronin 2018-05-19
You have never been oppressed. But one day you might be, when you push men too hard. Bring that up as a topic of discussion in your next Women's Studies course.
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-19
Believing as "fact" that women are oppressed just makes you delusional and ignorant. You are the most privileged group of people in all of human history.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
If you seriously believe that then you truly are an absolute idiot
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-19
Truly. What must it be like to live in a world where you get the cream of the crop, pick of the litter when it comes to dating, where vast majority of alimony settlements are in your favor, where you get equal rights without equal responsibility, where you can start a fight with a man because you're equal, but when he retaliates, he can't hit you because you belong to a special protected class of people, where you never have to know what it feels like to be completely unwanted by everyone in society, and still feel like you're "oppressed"? Do dragons and unicorns also flit around in this world of yours?
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
Please educate yourself
1 bunnylajoya8 2018-05-19
I'm a girl (not a troll, promise, I'm legit) and I have to ask why you didn't offer a rebuttal? I agree with the majority of what he said so I'm intrigued as to what I would need to read in order to educate myself.
1 sfcel 2018-05-19
Be careful she'll accuse you of having "internalized misogyny"
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
I didn’t offer a rebuttal because it would be a waste of my time, what I say isn’t going to change his firmly cemented mindset. You seem more open minded though so I’ll engage with you.
“You get the cream of the crop, pick of the litter when it comes to dating” While I agree that women typically have an easier time when it comes to finding dates, to claim that this makes us more privileged than men is just absurd. Dating is such a minuscule part of life and you cant ignore the endless ways that women are oppressed just to claim that because we can easily have sex, that makes us privileged. If you refer to my original comment, I outline that male attention can often be very unwanted, aggressive and even frightening for a lot of women. Also this claim ignores the fact that there are women who are “incels” or that men would deem unattractive who have never been on date etc. To claim that all women can easily obtain sex/dates is just not true, and even if it was, so what? Men wanting women for sex isn’t anything for us to celebrate.
“The vast majority of alimony settlements are in your favour” This one is true, and I agree that women benefit from sexism within the legal system. As a feminist I would advocate for this to change. However, this is usually the only argument by misogynists that “women are actually more privileged than men” that actually holds up, and ignores the millions of other ways that men dominate society and benefit from women’s subordination, so to take this one victory and call it a day is pretty ignorant.
“You get equal rights without equal responsibility” How? Women contribute to society just as much as men do, arguably even more so since we make up half the labour force and also have the added responsibility of still doing the majority of work in the home regarding housework, childcare and emotional labour.
“You can start a fight with a man because you’re equal, but when he retaliates, he can’t hit you because you belong to a special protected class of people” This is another common argument by misogynists to prove that women have it easier than men. Feminists aren’t going around saying that it’s fine for women to hurt men but they can’t hurt us back because we’re not as physically strong or whatever. The fact is it’s illegal for anybody to attack anybody, it’s assault. Why are men so obsessed with this argument? The sheer mention of feminism usually results in a man saying “oh so does this mean we can punch women?” Which to me is pretty unnerving. Personally i don’t think it’s okay for anyone to attack anyone, and I will agree that legally women do seem to get the benefit of the doubt and are always assumed to be the victim of assault when they’re up against a man, even if they are the one who attacked first. This is unfair and the legal system needs to be changed, which feminism is all for. The legal system tends to view women as weak and always the victim, which is sexist even if it benefits women in some cases such as this. However this is another very small example of women being more “privileged” than men, and ignores the bigger picture of women being seen as less than men in every other way. In this thread alone men are saying they genuinely believe women are inferior to men, surely that proves that society is misogynistic in itself?
“You never have to know what it feels like to be completely unwanted by everyone in society” I would argue that incels aren’t even “completely unwanted by everyone in society” and this view stems from their deep self hatred and self deprecating views, as the vast majority of society is unaware that such a group even exists. Even if incels were hated by society, it would be directly because they are a hate group in the same way as nazis or the kkk, so even then it’s not as if they’re oppressed.
1 hirayama_ronin 2018-05-19
You just don't get it.
The point is, all 90% women have to do in life is open their legs and they get a hearth and home.
Men have to struggle.
And that is why, Princess, women have never accomplished anything in life.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
Women have to struggle twice as hard as men to be taken seriously and to get anywhere in life. We can’t and don’t use sex to get anywhere, you are delusional. Women have accomplished countless things, all the facts are easily accessible, you just don’t want to face the truth because it doesn’t support your deluded world view about how women are supposedly privileged
1 RaginAssholeThroaway 2018-05-19
If you are a young straight white woman in the best, you are probably one of the most privileged persons in the world. Only attractive or rich white men may be more privileged than you, even that is debatable. As it is with any privileged group, if you are part of the group, you can't really see the privilege can you? That's why you guys make up dumb shit like mansplaining, manspreading etc. Because you run out of things to feel oppressed about. Even black feminists are realizing this now and calling you out on your shit. That's why White FeminismTM is a thing.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
You’re assuming I’m young, straight and white. I am aware that white western people in general are privileged. Of course I am more privileged than others, I’m not claiming that I’m not. But to ignore that society as a whole is patriarchal is just completely ignorant. Men have always been regarded as superior to women and men still benefit from this deep ingrained bias.
1 RaginAssholeThroaway 2018-05-19
Which you probably are, just statistically speaking from the demographics of reddit. Most of the people here are ugly ethnic men. So you are not going to win the oppression game here lol. Humans are social creatures and forming meaningful loving relationships is a core tenet of what it means to be human. This is difficult for ugly men and laughably easy for most women. So women are absolutely privileged in this regard. Of course you can't see this, as I said above, you are blinded by your privilege. How can you understand someone's struggle if you have never experienced it? Can a white woman claim she is more oppressed than a black man?
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
I’m young and white, but not straight. I’m not claiming that I’m more oppressed than people of other ethnicities, I’m fully aware that as a white western person I am very privileged. Women are not privileged because men want to fuck us. Men physically wanting us and even wanting a loving relationship with us does not make us privileged, like I said this is often something women dread and try to avoid due to the millions of cases of men not taking no for an answer and stalking, harassing and often getting physically violent with women who just aren’t interested in them.
1 hirayama_ronin 2018-05-19
No. Women have to struggle twice as hard as women have historically done to achieve anything. What you experience as a dramatic struggle is just what men have done since the beginning of time. Men have always worked hard, while women shucked corn at home, also hard work, but of a different, less productive kind.
This is totally wrong. Maybe you believe what you are saying, so let me inform you of something real that dominates women's experiences, whether they know it or not.
Men give women a pass because they are attracted to them. Smart women, in turn, use sex to move up. It's called the casting couch, or sleeping to the top. This is not something I made up. It exists. It's real. Many women take advantage of that.
Please do not be in denial about such basic facts regarding the relationship between men and women.
Compared to men, subtracting for the sake of argument all of "women's work" like child rearing, women have collectively amounted to nothing. Almost no accomplishment by a woman has not been overshadowed by a similar, prior, or subsequent accomplishment of a man. Numerically, the accomplishments of women are a drop in the ocean of male accomplishment. Sad but true. Hate it but believe it.
And it's not that I want to rub your nose in it. It's that feminism has forced me to draw your attention to this. I refuse to listen to women articulate a false history while beating men down. I refuse mansplaining and toxic masculinity. I'm sick of cheap women's studies discourse that accuse men of being the source of everything bad, while women have collectively amounted to nothing.
Women have something to prove. So prove it.
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
This is just pure ignorance. Women have achieved countless things throughout history despite being actively oppressed by men and society, having the same rights as children and no more, being forbidden to achieve an education or job, being labelled as hysterical and institutionalised or even lobotomised for having our own opinions or disagreeing with our husbands etc. Despite all of this, the things women have achieved are incredible, and for you to dismiss this is just idiotic.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women%27s_firsts
https://www.factmonster.com/science/inventions/inventions-women
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventions_and_discoveries_by_women
Men give women a pass because they are attracted to them. Smart women, in turn, use sex to move up. It's called the casting couch, or sleeping to the top. This is not something I made up. It exists. It's real. Many women take advantage of that.
Please do not be in denial about such basic facts regarding the relationship between men and women.
How the fuck would you know what “dominates women’s experiences”? I am a woman, you aren’t. I know what women experience, you don’t. I am an attractive woman, and the struggle I have had to get men to take me seriously professionally is infuriating. They don’t “give us a pass because we’re attractive”, they see that we’re attractive and nothing else and act according to that. A woman can be 10x as qualified, adept and knowledgeable than her male counterparts but the man in charge will only see her physical appearance, and if he decides to promote us or whatever because of that, that doesn’t make us privileged, it’s sexist and infuriating and definitely not something women actively try to accomplish in order to succeed. No woman is trying to “sleep up to the top”, the fact that you genuinely believe such an ancient sexist idea just shows how absolutely ignorant you are to women’s experiences, so don’t fucking try to tell me you know about this more than other women, because you just look like a fucking moron.
I’ve already responded to your “women have accomplished nothing” bullshit so I’m not wasting my time doing that again. Please educate yourself, you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
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1 hirayama_ronin 2018-05-19
So you agree with me.
I began these rants pointing out that women should not disparage men about their emotional lives. This was not a comment out of left field, but directed to the quote by bell hooks, in conjunction with the latest fad to accuse men of toxic masculinity on the grounds their emotions are stunted.
Now your point is, since I'm not a woman I can say nothing about the experiences of women.
The logic works both ways. Since you are not a man, do not presume to understand the emotional lives of men.
See how you lose the argument?
The feminist dismissal of men's emotional lives is idiotic because men have consistently done more with their emotions than women. We may disagree about the reasons why, but the facts are indisputable.
The idea men are badly formed women, living emotionally stunted lives, requiring immediate therapeutic intervention is feminist propaganda. And as you can tell by now, it is not appreciated. At all.
Nothing in my post insulted you personally, but you go there. That's you.
Think about how you look
1 rachulll 2018-05-19
"Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. It'll just knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut about like it's won anyway”
1 hirayama_ronin 2018-05-19
All you've got left is ad hominem.
1 vh__31 2018-05-19
Completely agree with you everyone here are a bunch of sad fucks.
1 randomeiffel 2018-05-19
Mmmm....I would say that young, white/white-passing (or at least somewhat conventionally attractive) females are one of the most privileged classes in the West. Definitely not true in other parts of the world, and not true for say, fat black women in America. (In terms of overall privilege, not just "sexual privilege").
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
Nah I disagree
1 randomeiffel 2018-05-19
Eh, there are parts of the world where young girls get acid thrown at them for trying to go to school, just because they are girls.
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
There are parts of the world where all able-bodied men are killed to cripple a country's military
1 randomeiffel 2018-05-19
Blegh yeah. Mandatory conscription is absolutely fucked.
1 191132 2018-05-19
that happens because they were being sluts
1 blojee 2018-05-19
This
1 HtpoHzwgBuuu 2018-05-19
Two minutes later:
1 191132 2018-05-19
No
1 TruthbeTold9999 2018-05-19
Even fat black women have it easy in 2018. I see it all the time on dating apps. Fat black women wearing expensive ass clothes basically escorting but usually asking for handouts.. and they wouldn't be asking unless they were receiving them.
1 Trumpisagoldengod 2018-05-19
Yea, that's why all of our world leaders and ceos and politicians are overwhelmingly female right, cause their so privileged lol
1 Hal_Inceldenza 2018-05-19
They don't have those jobs because they don't need them. Women have never learned to work hard for anything in life. That's also the reason why they don't contribute anything to society or human progress. The list of female Nobel Prize winners is shorter than the list of men who got their PhD in gender studies.
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-19
you do realize some companies purposely hire women, right?
1 random1234lol 2018-05-19
this is the life of a bloated sub5 female
unbelieveable
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-19
Bloated? Lol
1 King-Of-Virgins 2018-05-19
Yeah bloated what are u retarded oR something? Duuuuuuu
1 geneticSubhumanTrash 2018-05-19
A corpse left in a tropic sea is bloated after 2 days. That is fucking Mrs Michelin right there.
1 CrawlOuttaLove 2018-05-19
KEK
1 KV-n 2018-05-19
K E K
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1 Orig_analUse_rname 2018-05-19
So imagine a 19-year-old white Stacy's life. Just lol at being a 19, male, ethnic in 20XX.
1 JKDB12 2018-05-19
Ha ha kill me please
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-19
No wonder they're on their phones all the time.
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-19
This is literally exactly why
1 erectbepis 2018-05-19
Whats wrong with being ethnic
1 AlexGos 2018-05-19
The year is 20XX, everyone plays fox.
1 dontcomplain1 2018-05-19
This actually triggers me, holy fuck
1 jewishsupremacist88 2018-05-19
when backpage was still around, a girl like her could easily make $500 or so a night sellin that ass.
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-19
Sure - to creepy old dudes.
1 empatheticapathetic 2018-05-19
No to anyone. Market sets the demand.
1 heyitsfranklin6322 2018-05-19
It’s not. She’s full of lies
1 nachocheesie 2018-05-19
Maybe personality and social skills do matter after all!
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-19
and am here an 18 year old crying my self to sleep. GG life.
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
I was you at 18. I'm in my 30s now. I wish I could say it gets better but I don't want to lie.
1 RegisteredLolicon 2018-05-19
Suifuel for days ty
1 snubbe123 2018-05-19
At least he has time to improve himself. It's over for us oldfags.
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
There's no improvement, only cope.
1 jewishsupremacist88 2018-05-19
damn. harsh..but true.
1 BLACCEL 2018-05-19
My last hope. Gone. Imma kill myself after I watched the anime I still wanna watch asap
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
But what about all the anime yet to be made? Surely you could live on just for that
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-19
Was do so many incels like anime? By the way - most girls I know find guys watching anime as a pretty huge turn-off (since it's mostly sexualised children - and don't say it isn't).
1 FourIsANumber 2018-05-19
if chad liked anime. girls would like anime
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-19
They might pretend to like it, but they still wouldn't like it. If anime was about socialising little boys, would you like it?
1 FourIsANumber 2018-05-19
I don't watch anime.
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-19
Good stuff
1 FourIsANumber 2018-05-19
women only like chad.
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-19
Dude, all men and women fantasize about 10s of whatever sex they're attracted to. Why would anyone fantasize about anything less than a 10?
1 FourIsANumber 2018-05-19
I don't fantasize about 10s.
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-19
Regardless, I'm sure you can understand my point.
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-19
Let me guess, 4s?
1 FourIsANumber 2018-05-19
Cpt Bugman
1 FourIsANumber 2018-05-19
I fantasize about people with good personalities.
1 BLACCEL 2018-05-19
Idgaf what wymn think it's over for me either way.
And no it's not mostly sexualised children. It's partly sexualised children.
1 BLACCEL 2018-05-19
That's true.
In the end I'll probably live till fucking 60 cause of my anime addicition.
1 CrawlOuttaLove 2018-05-19
I used to be an incel just like you. Then I started showering and working on my personality.
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-19
could work. who knows.
1 CelderSrolls 2018-05-19
I used to be an Incel like you, until I took a shower to the knee.
1 CrawlOuttaLove 2018-05-19
I used to be an Incel like you, until I took genetics to the face.
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-19
This actually made me kek out loud, ty for that.
1 CrawlOuttaLove 2018-05-19
❤️
1 -RB26DETT 2018-05-19
Absolutely based
1 chillenyo2 2018-05-19
hows it feel to be a product of feminist revenge that you had no part in young man?
1 suicidal-pothead 2018-05-19
Hey, me too. It's a great way to spend what are supposed to be the best years of your life.
1 papa_blesss 2018-05-19
I love this sub. Bunch of outta shape dudes angry that girls don’t like them and their shitty personality
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
I swim 2k every day. Stop projecting your being fat onto us thx.
1 papa_blesss 2018-05-19
Sweet sentence. Hey let me know when shit talking girls online works out for you, bud.
1 rileymils 2018-05-19
Not a single one of the happy and successful people I know in my life would spend any of their valuable time harassing a group of the lowest rungs of society. Your life probably isn't very good.
1 papa_blesss 2018-05-19
Yet you’re also on this sub?
1 sfcel 2018-05-19
sub zero IQ
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-19
Absolute zero IQ, most likely.
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-19
He hit levels of low IQ i didn't think possible
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
I think making observations of the disparity between the experiences of a 19 year old thot and a 19 year old guy is very important for incels - it validates their experiences of neglect and isolation as being caused by something beyond their own agency.
Why you feel the need to insult and get mad at a group of already depressed men speaks to something broken inside of yourself. I hope you feel better soon (or rope, idgaf)
1 papa_blesss 2018-05-19
Unsure where the insult was but I should have guessed you’d try and play the victim somehow. You calling a girl you’ve never met a “thot” speaks for itself. Stop being so angry at people you’ve never met because you hate yourself
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
you said this to try place blame upon incels for being in their situation, to imply they are lazy or otherwise to blame for their situation which really demonstrates your lack of understanding as to what an incel is
The girl is implying she sleeps with a range of men, both married, single and underage. What is your definition of a ho, exactly?
No? Fuck off faggot.
1 papa_blesss 2018-05-19
Didn’t know faggots had girlfriends but kinda rich coming from an incel. Dude you’re clearly disturbed. Posting for advice on painless methods of suicide? You’re clearly not happy and I’d honestly like it if you seemed help. Demeaning women in the internet won’t help you.
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
................................................ you're posting in r/braincels you fucking mong.
1 TwoGendersOneIncel 2018-05-19
Who hurt you?
1 RegisteredLolicon 2018-05-19
Op please seek help !!! Generic normtard #302916 says so!!
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-19
Wow so original. Fuck off motherfucker, why do you come to a place that offends you? Fucking masochist.
1 UniversallyDespised 2018-05-19
lmao you think everything men do is to get pussy? You’ve revealed that you’re fat and thirsty af
1 papa_blesss 2018-05-19
Ahhh checkmate you’ve got me. I’m fat and thirsty af. Can I have some tips on how to pick up please?
1 UniversallyDespised 2018-05-19
yeah, spend your time doing something constructive other than virtue signalling to a bunch of strangers on the internet
1 geneticwaste43 2018-05-19
Go throw yourself in a river you fat fuck
1 DirtyBristolBoi 2018-05-19
My son got a degree in electrical engineering and now he makes 6k figures.
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
Is your son also an incel? I'm sorry to hear that.
1 DirtyBristolBoi 2018-05-19
No, he's actually married to a very sweet young lady. She even makes them homemade bacon.
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
Okay, I don't understand the reason for your post then but congrats to your son.
1 ivanttobealone 2018-05-19
are you Ken M does she save money on bacon by making her own by crushing hot dogs with a rolling pin
1 DirtyBristolBoi 2018-05-19
We are all Ken M this blessed day.
1 retsamyob 2018-05-19
Congrats on passing on the brains of your better half.
1 Dellarie 2018-05-19
The fuck do we care you autist
1 DirtyBristolBoi 2018-05-19
My paster says autism is just kids being discourteous. Kids need to mind there manners.
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-19
Your paster is clearly a learned man. How did he learn so much about kids?
1 DirtyBristolBoi 2018-05-19
He's self-trained from bible reading. This is in fact the only legitimate way to learn the rules of child-rearing (John 7:11).
1 bengalsturntup5532 2018-05-19
Oh look a old Frank visits
1 DirtyBristolBoi 2018-05-19
Not to brag, but my son works for Yahoo and we get all our news articals for FREE!!!! :-)
1 LORD-THUNDERCUNT 2018-05-19
Literally none of the people who post their selfies here are out of shape men. Most are actually in great shape. Just ugly faces.
1 GuyWithPineapple 2018-05-19
Most incels are average looking only single because 8 percent of women go for 20 percent of men.
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-19
80*
1 yodubsmaneo 2018-05-19
You want a Nintendo Switch?
1 xtsv 2018-05-19
You're projecting, fat cunt.
1 allcel 2018-05-19
Fuck off, don't even bother posting here when you don't understand at all who we are past some normie meme.
1 electrogeek8086 2018-05-19
We know who you are. You're just a bunch of losers women haters who blame them for your shitty lives.
1 allcel 2018-05-19
You know man, I'm going to upvote that because you're completely right
1 FuckYourselfUCunt 2018-05-19
Like do you retards even realise how ugly the dudes a girl this scuffed has hitting on her are? They'd make you guys look attractive.
1 sfcel 2018-05-19
One can only try to comprehend the trauma inflicted to this poor woman by having subhumans hitting on her. #MeToo
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-19
bitch even if a deformed lady hit on me i would be quie happy actually. fucking ungrateful kids these days smh
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-19
Probably more than the number of ugly girls hitting on me... but anything is more than 0. She's got it good, she's got it really good. I'd love to have ugly girls hitting on me all the time.
Don't paint her privilege as something "bad"; it isn't, and most of us would give everything we have to be in her position.
1 Hellthug2 2018-05-19
TriHards cx smh
1 bcat124 2018-05-19
The funeral of her male looksmatch is set for tomorrow.
1 SmokeyMcBlunt 2018-05-19
Savagery.
1 GuyWithPineapple 2018-05-19
just wait until the wall comes lmao
1 yodubsmaneo 2018-05-19
Wall is cope. Most don’t get hit hard enough to make them extremely ugly
1 chillenyo2 2018-05-19
wall isnt cope. the gender ratio does take its effect, however this occurs at 35, she has roughly 16 easy years ahead
1 GuyWithPineapple 2018-05-19
brutal pill
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-19
I think it's more like 45+ when they can't bear child and become full useless.
1 Orig_analUse_rname 2018-05-19
Wall just means as she ages her pools of Chad (and therefore self esteem) gets smaller as she ages. Not that she turns into a goblin at 30. Yeah a 30-year-old Chad may fuck her but why commit when he can also commit to other younger women.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-19
It already looks like she's hit the wall tbh
1 geneticwaste43 2018-05-19
She is the wall
1 f9d8hv3sl 2018-05-19
It will not matter, she'll have had 20-30 years of happy and fullfilling romantic life by the time the "wall" hits. Now imagine the life of her incel looksmatch during all those years (assuming he doesn't rope early on). The wall is cope.
1 futmut 2018-05-19
She already hit the wall since she was born, just look at how ugly she is...In a normal world she shouldnt get anyone other then obese ugly guys to hit on her...Yet she got hundred of guys which are good looking hitting on her...Thats just how fucked up our society and dating scene is.
1 futmut 2018-05-19
And she is extremely ugly aswell...man what an amazing time to be alive...thirsty motherfuckers who ruin the game for everyone😂
1 chillenyo2 2018-05-19
whilst theres the internet it wont change
1 weasling 2018-05-19
You're a bunch of sad fucks. Noone loves, noone every will and that's exactly how it should be. Disgusting assholes.
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
Suck my cut Jewish dick you German faggot.
1 weasling 2018-05-19
Because no girl ever will? You'll die alone buddy :-*
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
Your country is going down the drain whilst I can move to Israel and marry up a frum wife. Have fun disappearing down the asshole of history, as you deserve ;)
1 weasling 2018-05-19
You won't find a wife. You'll die alone.
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
Ok german cuck, go back to your video games and airsofr now. Play games whilst your people vanish from the world forever :))
1 weasling 2018-05-19
Will do. Might play some video games with my girl friend.
You just stay here in your hate-filled filter bubble. Have fun living in agony. Have fun dying alone. You deserve it.
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
The kind of hate-filled sentiment I'd expect from a nazi. Don't forget to prep your gf's bull properly later.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-19
Wow fucking nazi.
1 Cissnowflake 2018-05-19
Well it’s trauma for her because most of the guys who hit on her are not Chad. Maybe we can start a gofundme for her therapy until unwanted interest by men is made illegal
1 xtsv 2018-05-19
Lmao, I mog her to oblivion and I'll never get anywhere as much attention from the opposite gender.
Women really do live life on easy mode, regardless of what they say.
1 f9d8hv3sl 2018-05-19
Not even 9/10 chads get as much attention as average women. It's over.
1 harambeazn 2018-05-19
Thats true lol.
1 chillenyo2 2018-05-19
there's something very wrong with society when the contrast pertaining to quality (and ease) of life is so drastically different between a 19 year old male and a 19 year old female
1 Dellarie 2018-05-19
Life on game master mode
1 normalguywhoagrees95 2018-05-19
Her face looks like a giant clam.
1 Mr_M0t0m0 2018-05-19
If her idiotic observation is true, then that sure is sad. The thirst is real among simps.
1 Zippy1avion 2018-05-19
I think those 32 year olds are more interested in studying her Fetal Alcohol Syndrome than dating her.
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-19
Wtf she isn't even pretty....that's the inflated price of roast beef
1 TurboTrashman 2018-05-19
Her face is more wide than it is tall.
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-19
She looks like a bullfrog.
1 Panseared_Tuna 2018-05-19
A fucking nasty goblina too. Yuck!
1 RepresentativeZombie 2018-05-19
I wonder why you people aren't popular with women.
1 Panseared_Tuna 2018-05-19
I do just fine, thank you. I find myself agreeing with incel views on women though because I'm not a beta orbiter fuck like you who feels the need to encourage women to act like sluts. These bitches need to be patrolled.
1 tropical_cockonut 2018-05-19
Holy shit. Suicide fuel for teencels
1 eyewant 2018-05-19
She is lying, this has gotta be a meme
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
Seems entirely possible what with tinder etc
1 eyewant 2018-05-19
I know 7-8/10 girls. They experience this, but below the level she is experiencing it. So I find it hard to believe a 4/10 girl experiences all of this.
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
Any girl can have this if she wants it with tinder and instagram etc
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-19
Juggernaut law
1 eyewant 2018-05-19
Thanks. First time Ive heard of that.
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-19
Someone else explained it better elsewhere in this thread, but I'll give it my best: Men assume that a woman who's less attractive like the girl in OP will have lower standards and be less picky, so they're more likely to pursue her rather than someone else. What happens, then, when you have a bunch of unsuccessful guys who all think the same way? What happens is she gets a ton of suitors, and her ego skyrockets into Jupiter's orbit.
1 eyewant 2018-05-19
And then she has as much obiters and Jupiter herself...
Thanks, I see now. Makes a lot of sense. Someone else responded with Juggernaut's law. First time I heard of that, it's basically what you're saying.
It reminds me of the advice that it's better to approach attractive women because most other men are too scared to so. But I disagree because I know a lot of dudes who have no shame or fear and approach out of their league.
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-19
And this, combined with Juggernaut's Law, shows exactly why women can't be Forever Alone or incel, and why men at the bottom will remain incel and Forever Alone, because we will always have better-looking competition no matter who we pursue.
1 eyewant 2018-05-19
I like the way you worded this.
Nature is truly a bitch
1 chillenyo2 2018-05-19
Sweet coping
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-19
This happens because guys think that a less attractive woman won't be as picky, so you end up with a girl like this who is being approached by all guys thinking the same thing.
Then her ego launches out of orbit.
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
Actually my mistake and what happened with my ex. RIP.
1 Mrplum 2018-05-19
This phenomenon is known as juggernaut law.
1 hirayama_ronin 2018-05-19
Please define Juggernaut Law.
1 Mrplum 2018-05-19
If a woman is below average height, has wonky teeth, Dumbo ears, this makes guys feel like they have a CHANCE with her, as opposed to if she were more "perfect", less flawed. So this means that even girls that are AVERAGE and BELOW still have guys hitting on them. You can't stop a woman's dating potential. She is like The Juggernaut. If she is a single mum, then more guys will think they are being her prince charming by rescuing her from all the "other bad, bad men out there". She is UNSTOPPABLE. Any flaw she has JUST MAKES HER STRONGER in the dating world.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-19
High IQ
1 bittterpilll 2018-05-19
I've known about this phenomenon but didn't know it had a name, thanks!
1 lonely_suicidal_cel 2018-05-19
Damn, it is really over for me
1 hirayama_ronin 2018-05-19
Great definition. Thanks.
1 oftheinfinite 2018-05-19
"Go for your looksmatch." I tried arguing this on PPD and other places, and the morons don't seem to get it. Your looks-matched women, at most, will give you a LTR, and never allow non-Chad men to ride you as a part of the cock carousel. In other words, you are not a sexual being but a utility and a package deal kind of man.
1 YouAreWrongKid 2018-05-19
She looks average as fuck and bloated yet has her pic of Chads, yet the queers on inceltears will tell you that women have things hard. Lmao
1 CountyMcCounterson 2018-05-19
Nowadays 18 year old girls date 25+ only while the 18 year old boys sit in their rooms watching twitch streams
1 OPFUG 2018-05-19
Cunts fucked
1 hitman6actual 2018-05-19
Notice that no one here is trying to date this girl. She's bragging about dudes trying to play her. 17 year olds trying to get laid, 26 year olds trying to get laid, and 32 year olds cheating on their wives. Worse yet, she practically admits to going along with the 32 year old who "misses" her now.
1 subhumanforever 2018-05-19
Are you seriously that retarded?
1 hitman6actual 2018-05-19
What part of my comment do you disagree with? Do you think any of these guys value her beyond sex?
1 Idk12344482305 2018-05-19
Yes. She just doesn’t notice from the constant attnetion she gets. It’s women’s mania that men only want to fuck them. No, we are humans too, we want emotional connections too, despite the shit you say.
She is just sad no 10/10 Chad offers her undying commitment. The sad life of roasties. Rip.
1 hitman6actual 2018-05-19
Guys want more than sex. But not these guys and not from her. She's bragging about married men who clearly just want (more) sex.
I'm a man. I obviously know that men want more than sex. But these married men are not looking for emotional connections from this girl.
1 Idk12344482305 2018-05-19
She also referred to 26 year olds who would like to have her over for dinner. Of course, they only want to fuck her. That’s literally the only thing men are capable of, right?
1 hitman6actual 2018-05-19
I'm a 26 year old. If I'm interested in a woman I'll take her out. If I'm not, I'll invite her to my place for a drink. I don't know why you're all taking this as an insult to men. I didn't say that all men are like this. I said that she's not bragging about any sort of substantial interaction. I'm saying that this chick should be embarrassed to brag about this. I'm not defending her at all. The complete opposite actually.
1 subhumanforever 2018-05-19
Everything.
You fucking white knight piece of shit trash. I'm so sick of you white knights. Women can do no wrong, right? M'lady. You go ahead and say married men are only looking for sex, but go ahead and clearly ignore guys in their mid 20s who have shown interest in her taking her to dinner, but yeah...all of them only want sex, right? Fucking idiot you are. Fuck off.
1 hitman6actual 2018-05-19
I didn't stand up for any women here. I said they say all of the things that you think they're saying but they aren't saying them here. Lots of women are into rape fantasies. But this isn't a rape fantasy in any way. It's a poem about a relationship ending. You are raging about nothing.
1 hitman6actual 2018-05-19
I didn't defend this woman for shit. I actually said that she's bragging about some shit that should be embarrassing to her. My point was that she is in the wrong here. You are raging about nothing.
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-19
I assume this went completely over your head.
1 hitman6actual 2018-05-19
I'm not talking about why this should make you feel good. I'm talking about why this should make her feel bad.
1 nuriri 2018-05-19
r/thathappened
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-19
Yes, it must be SO HARD to be wanted. God, I couldn't imagine a worse fate!
1 harambeazn 2018-05-19
What the fuck? the average male doesnt even get that much attention as this bloted girl
1 frenchyisverycool 2018-05-19
What the fuck is wrong with you guys? Do you have no self awareness whatsoever? Downvote me, I dare you, that’ll devalue my point.
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
I’m not going to downvote you because voting on comments in Reddit is fuckin gay but I will say that your comment doesn’t really make any sense and you come across as incoherent. Try contribute with something better structured in future.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-19
Lol you don't have a point, low IQ af.
1 sfcel 2018-05-19
r/madlads
1 Mr_StealYoGirl69 2018-05-19
she looks disgusting. JFL at how she thinks she is hot becauae of all the validation.
1 firmiiiiiip 2018-05-19
jfc it's OVER for subhuman men in 2018
1 AstralRequiem 2018-05-19
maybe people should start learning when its time to settle. To be honest, if you think you're unattractive when looking in a mirror chances are some girls probably think like that too. just need to find the girls who are more compatible and suitable for your own looks and features :)
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
Im not sure what your comment has to do with the OP. Regardless, I consider myself to be attractive yet not a chad (I’m around a 6) yet a 6 female can easily attain a 9 chad. Therefore I have to slum it for a 1-2 and even those are liable to cuck for chad. Your comment misapprehends the inflation of female value in the sexual marketplace in the instagram age when any girl can pout and pose in pornographic, licentious indecency and attract a horny chad.
Should I ‘settle’ for an ogre of a woman just because I am not in the top 5% of men? Of course not. Should I be outraged at the ease with which roasties circumvent the natural order to bypass my average appearance? I believe so, especially when society reinforces this idea of female empowerment to the degree of enabling a harem world. ‘Settling’ will not resolve the issue for a lot of men either. Why should I settle for my looksmatch once she’s in her 30s and whithering - she hasn’t given me the beauty of her youth so why should I settle for the scraps that remain? No thanks. No, I’ll instead rage against this perversion of nature that operates in service of barren roastie pussy.
1 AstralRequiem 2018-05-19
First of all, Its nice to see that you consider yourself attractive. I feel like thats the type of uplifting confidence some people on this subreddit need. Asides from that, I have a really hard time believing you'd have to settle for a 1-2. I consider myself to be above average too but definitely on the skinnier side. Even still, I have honestly never felt like I had to settle for an unattractive woman. I have been with girls from different types of races too (wanna taste all colors of the rainbow LOL) Sure, I can't just slide in a girls DM's who has over a thousand followers on her instagram but that's okay! Not every can haha. Asides from that I think that idea of all girls only wanting the top 4019% is men is a misconception. In my experience, majority if not all woman want their partners to be solely for them, why would they ever want to share one man? Mr.Lambert, I am sure that in the future when you've found yourself a nice girl, you'll look back at this and laugh at how much things can change in 1-2 years :)
1 UselessBrakes 2018-05-19
If you are a 6 then you are not attractive, you are average
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
I was going to write 'not unattractive' tbf
1 lonely_suicidal_cel 2018-05-19
6 isn't average, 8 is nowadays
1 CaligulaWasRight 2018-05-19
life on tutorial mode.
1 iQ9k 2018-05-19
In the profile pic they ain't even look that spectacular or special. Life on ~ CONSOLE MODE
1 UselessBrakes 2018-05-19
So she gets lots of offers of sex/people trying to play her. That happenes to anyone with a vagina that seems easy to fool, especially young girls. How is that a good thing? None of these guys would ever want to date or commit to her.
1 geoffreylambert 2018-05-19
Why are you creating a fictitious scenario wherein she is a victim here? She knows exactly what she's doing. Jesus Christ.
1 ThisIzWhyYourAInzel 2018-05-19
Brutal her male counter part would be a virgin
1 ledditorxD 2018-05-19
This is the kind of attention a sub4 bitch has. It's over.
1 themostbeta 2018-05-19
Ragefuel
1 frankwashere44 2018-05-19
What is a snapstreak?
Some whore on tinder mentioned it. A sequence of snaps sent back and forth? Is it necessarily nudes or what?
1 666Throwaway_666 2018-05-19
Do you guys seriously think this is the norm? I arguably mog her and I’ve never had a male show interest in me irl in my entire life.
1 iQ9k 2018-05-19
Her face is so fucking bloated I thought it was a snapchat filter at first. If she really does look like that and she experiences what she does then it's literally over
1 BananaPancakeCove 2018-05-19
she has the sexual prowess of an Egyptian queen in 2018.
1 harambeazn 2018-05-19
yass slay queen
1 removestopwatchplz 2018-05-19
yo omg so these people wanna socialize with me and i should feel appreciated but nah ima post about it on twitter xD tee hee
1 KingOfCorinth 2018-05-19
It's a pathetic teenage humblebrag. No need to let it get you bent out of shape.
1 millionairegrind 2018-05-19
males need to stop giving this much attention to women tbh
1 darnforgotmypassword 2018-05-19
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
suicide fuel
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-19
what's a streak?
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-19
Also - she never said it was hard. You should probably at least mock her for the things she said, not the thing(s) you've decided she's thinking.
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-19
I think she's full of shit to be honest. I'm not an Incel. I'm a million miles from what you lot call "Chad" - like not even fucking close. But I had some attention from girls when I was that age (in 30s) now.
I'm guessing each of those things she is saying refers to exactly one, specific example - and probably not all happening at same time either.
That's why she used exact numbers 17,26,32. And regarding the '32' - attracting dudes 30+ when you're a teenage girl is not really a brag.
I was probably a 5 or 6 outta 10 at that age (not a 'bad' looking face, but terrible body, but also tall). 6 foot, but skinny as a twig, like freakishly skinny (i've put on some weight now, 30kg since that age and I'm still skinny). I was 6'-6'1 somewhere around there and I weight 50-54kg - stick that in your BMI calc.
Anyway - I knocked back girls like that. There's no way her love life is going that great. Don't get me wrong, chicks - like her - get can sex whenever they want, that's just a perk of being a chick, a guy wanting to nut will pretty well fuck anyone. But - she'd have a hard time getting a good guy as a 'keeper'. Seriously.
The fact that she's posting this shit at all says a lot.
1 SnowMan878 2018-05-19
2/10 landwhale with 3 cucks
1 ForceFetusKing 2018-05-19
imagine having zero people messaging you.
1 cannuckgamer 2018-05-19
Uhm... is she just joking? Or in need of some meds?
1 cookin_breakfast 2018-05-19
Bring back slut shaming
1 jacketboundjester 2018-05-19
I'll guess I have to stop going after girls slightly younger than me now.
1 papa_blesss 2018-05-19
Ahhh checkmate you’ve got me. I’m fat and thirsty af. Can I have some tips on how to pick up please?
1 DirtyBristolBoi 2018-05-19
No, he's actually married to a very sweet young lady. She even makes them homemade bacon.
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
It doesn't matter what I say, you're fuelled up on soy and ready to defend m'ladies and the status quo so there's really no point in arguing with you.
1 sonoffuck 2018-05-19
not the same guy but can you explain how you’re oppressed on a day-to-day basis just to give everyone an idea
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-05-19
Yeah okay slut, go claim that the beliefs of the vast majority of the world are equal to believing in a flat earth in any serious setting and you'll be laughed out. (that's right, only a small number of mostly western feminists cry about oppression) Not being able to be a whore without getting called a slut isn't oppression either. Now fuck off back to crying about how hard it is to be sexually desirable and to live life on the absolute easiest of modes in existance. Remember ONE IN FOUR women are homeless!
1 CommonMisspellingBot 2018-05-19
Hey, jaghatarhonor, just a quick heads-up:
existance is actually spelled existence. You can remember it by ends with -ence.
Have a nice day!
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1 rachulll 2018-05-19
You don’t seriously think the vast majority of the world believes the same things you do right? Normal people are disgusted and in disbelief that people can actually believe the things the people in this sub do. It’s laughable, people honestly do see you as on the same level as flat earthers. It’s baffling how idiotic you are
1 FourIsANumber 2018-05-19
if chad liked anime. girls would like anime
1 BLACCEL 2018-05-19
Idgaf what wymn think it's over for me either way.
And no it's not mostly sexualised children. It's partly sexualised children.
1 butts_mckinley 2018-05-19
Real recognize real playa
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-19
just look at the suicide stactics.