Former Incel here: People treat me like I am invisible unless I am with my girlfriend
144 2018-05-18 by HelpfulAttention
So I escaped inceldom about four years ago when I ended up getting lucky and meeting my long-term girlfriend through a mutual friend. I am a severely below average black guy standing at 5'7. She is by most people's standard very attractive None of my friends could believe I was with her.
What I notice is that people treat much better when I am out with her. Girls actually look at me and notice me more and some have even started conversations with me if they I am at an event with her. It's disgusting.
Whenever I am out by myself, it's like I dont even exist again. Girls walk right past me as if I didnt even exist.
TDLR: Women find you more attractive if you are desirable by other women (no shit)
99 comments
1 norwood_victim 2018-05-18
It's the bandwagon effect.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-18
Women want what other women want.
Also by hanging out with your girlfriend, a girl knows you're getting laid so she can let her guard down.
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-05-18
P R E S E L E C T I O N
1 changeIsTheWay 2018-05-18
Da. Ti si tako pametan.
1 foreignincel4 2018-05-18
if a women find a guy attractive i am sure other women will find the guy cute because well they are women too i dont believe in the red pill "women want something then other women want it too"
1 throwawayricecel 2018-05-18
How many inches?
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
BBC theory is legit, boyo. Honestly, above average (NO HOMO)
1 throwawayricecel 2018-05-18
Give me numbers
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
I don’t think bbc is what got me in. She had one other boyfriend before me that was a white dude and he had a bigger cock than me
1 jesuz 2018-05-18
HE WANTS VOLUMETRIC MEASUREMENT
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
1488 inches
1 throwawayricecel 2018-05-18
Little dicklet
1 69lordjoe 2018-05-18
So this white geezer had a bigger dick than you and your weighing in at a whopping 14.8 inches? Something isnt adding up
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
It’s a joke. I’m 7.5 inches
1 circlingldn 2018-05-18
6ix wide, 9ine long
1 legitjuice 2018-05-18
IT SHOULDNT HAVE TAKEN JESUS TO GET THIS INFO OUT OF YOU
1 YouAreWrongKid 2018-05-18
Do you think its true? I think its a myth and that Black/White guys are virtually equal in size. If there is any difference its no more than a few centimeters, if that. It's perpetuated by the porn industry because they make money off it. They wont show big dick White guys and Black women because that doesn't sell, because more men prefer WHite women over Black women.
1 trevmon 2018-05-18
a few centimeters, even millimeters, is everything
1 trevmon 2018-05-18
"she likes me for my personality bro"
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
God damn it I got cucked again
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-18
It's backed by statistics, niggers have on average bigger, longer dicks, not by much, but it is visible
1 iB_Rezzed_Out 2018-05-18
Happened to me too. Even when I'm out alone though in my case. It's funny because when I'm single it's all I can do to get a number (unless I pursue interaction, 20% success there) But when I'm taken or otherwise preoccupied (friends with benifits) I get loads of attention by girls of all ages and type. My guess is it is a pheromone thing, like they can literally sense that you've been laying the wood lately and they must investigate what you got. Can be exhilarating, but difficult when you wanna stay faithful.
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
I feel you. I feel like I’m so ugly I will always be able to remain faithful. Also, she did me a service by ridding me of inceldom so there is no way I would ever cheat on her
1 iB_Rezzed_Out 2018-05-18
Yeah I feel the same most of the time, being faithful is something I have strived to remain despite the "attention".
I guess it's just the idea that there are all these chicks that passed on me that now message me and shit that gets me. I mean strangers are fun, but something about the ones who rejected you crawling back that feels pretty damn good.
I'm a fatcel (6'3, 350lbs.) But I got pretty damn lucky in that my wife is small, sexy and older. Opposites attract I guess, but I attribute the success to the whole pheromone thing.
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
Damn you could physically get any girl you want if you know what I mean
1 iB_Rezzed_Out 2018-05-18
Sorry for the late response, I'm at work.
True, but I'd rather not have to go through all that trouble. I'll just stay in my niche, small women who like a big "teddy bear" to make them feel safe and what not.
Sidenote, I saw you talking about bbc theory, do you use that primarily to get chicks? I'm native american so I find that actually helps a bunch with most women, except the ones who are inherently racist, and even then it's like a weird hate fetish for them.
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
Yeah if you are a good height and ethnic they are going to want that big cock. White girls that get BLACKED would never get it from some short black, it would have to be some athlete 6’8 bull
1 iB_Rezzed_Out 2018-05-18
Too true, I've heard even landwhales wax poetic about them to the point of just being nasty. Like yeah, I'm packing some heat but damn I ain t 12 inches. In my area I have some great friends who are short (like 5"4) black guys but they seem to pull all kinds of hotties, maybe try the le swag approach? Also, being ethnic is nice to a degree, especially when I've met the parents a few times. ("Oh, go easy on the wine chief") shit gets so old so fast.
1 changeIsTheWay 2018-05-18
Volcel. (well not cel, but you might not be incel tier looks wise with genetics)
We have no idea what facial structure you have. But you could have an amazing face or at least average. Average looking face with 6'3" height is good enough for most women usually anyways if you bodymaxx.
1 NutNotBusted 2018-05-18
Women are dumb cunts, that's why. They are sheeps. Herd mentality.
1 freakylittlesecrets 2018-05-18
So why do you wanna be with one then? Sour grapes dude
1 trevmon 2018-05-18
biology makes us desire them
1 freakylittlesecrets 2018-05-18
Really? So you yourself only want to have sex with a woman because biology makes you want to? If so that's why your not getting laid. Incel is not a reason to be a misogynist. The deeper you fall down the rabbit hole of misogyny, the further you get away from getting puss in the first place.
1 cmonmanjuststop 2018-05-18
Lmao coming from a woman who was in a sugar daddy relationship and was being given money for sex. I'm sure his personality was great tho, he prob took like three showers a day for the cherry on top
1 freakylittlesecrets 2018-05-18
Hahaha judge if you want- he still looks good and there is nothing between us. No money goggles here.
1 cmonmanjuststop 2018-05-18
thats nice of you
also you
Lmao is this real life? Hopefully he choked you when he was fucking you just so you couldn't say anymore retarded shit like this.
1 normalguywhoagrees95 2018-05-18
Would you be happy if all incels killed themselves?
1 freakylittlesecrets 2018-05-18
Absolutely not! That's crazy! I think everyone has a right to be happy. I'm more of the spectrum of love and acceptance of all. I don't hate or pity incels. I feel like you guys should be given a break honestly. I think society puts too much pressure on males and females to be up to some stupid standard to get laid.
1 normalguywhoagrees95 2018-05-18
I’m a volcel, I choose to not be involved in mainstream societal dating because everyone is toxic and superficial.
1 freakylittlesecrets 2018-05-18
Well- volcel is different. isn't it?
1 normalguywhoagrees95 2018-05-18
Volcel is voluntary celibacy. I have had sex and girlfriends before. Now I retreat from society and hope to meet my snowflake outside of the toxic mainstream dating world.
1 freakylittlesecrets 2018-05-18
I knew the definition. I honestly do hope you find what makes you happy, whatever that maybe. I can be called names on Reddit. No sweat to me. I've done what's made me happy all the while not hurt anyone in the process. I've always been open and honest, but not in a cunt way. I've never cheated or been mean to a partner without provacation. I've never been hung up on what society deems acceptable or beautiful. So when people look up my comments and sling mud on a totally different sub- I think it's petty. To make a haste judgement that I am shallow, or dumb. No. I'm of average appearance but the other things I bring to the table have always been well received. That SD relationship refered to something that ended and remains an awesome friendship.
1 CommonMisspellingBot 2018-05-18
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1 Dickyknee85 2018-05-18
Think of it in a biological way. They definately have a herd/sheep mentality. It is how they are wired. Men can be social but it is usually to let off steam. Then it is back to acrual shit that matters. Women are social to improve their status amongst the herd. The issue is this is all that matters. 60% of women don't work. Compared to 95% of men. Even less work full-time...No darling it's not a glass ceiling, theor is no wage gap. It's your biological make up and choice not to do so, and your goals in life differ.
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1 fryxtz 2018-05-18
They are "dumb cunts" and are easily manipulated like that and yet you can't figure out how to get one of them to go on a date with you. So what does that make you?
1 sfcel 2018-05-18
They're manipulated by their on kind you dumb fuck stop putting words in his mouth you moronic sack of useless shit.
1 rileymils 2018-05-18
So then if millions of women were to get manipulated into an abusive relationship, you would admit they were easily manipulated? Well, just look at the stats for abusive relationships and there you go. We’re talking literally hundreds of millions of women who have gotten into a relationship with a guy who proceeds to abuse them.
According to IncelTears, not saying misogynistic things on the internet is a prerequisite to getting a girlfriend, however not beating the daylight out of your girlfriend is apparently not a prerequisite.
1 freakylittlesecrets 2018-05-18
Thank you fryxtz!
1 Mr_Breast 2018-05-18
Only reason you were able toe escape inceldom. White privilege in the incel world is complete bullshit, just like it is everywhere else.
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
Affirmative action has gone too far
1 TheiWindFelt 2018-05-18
If you are a 6ft + ogrecel you can pull asian and some blacks bro.
1 trevmon 2018-05-18
only if he has a good face on the ogre body
1 Hopecel 2018-05-18
Just be white theory is legit. I wouldn’t be incel if I was white.
1 apoptosiscel 2018-05-18
White incels definitely have it easier than ricecels/currycels
1 Mr_Breast 2018-05-18
In what reality?
1 apoptosiscel 2018-05-18
Are you saying that currycels have it better than white incels?
White people set the beauty standards for most of society. Even in countries like India, people with "whiter" features are treated better than those with more stereotypical Indian features (facial structure, eyes, darker skin).
Your average white normie can still manage to get a gf as long as he isn't an extreme manlet or severely deformed (also curries are much shorter than white people on average). Your average curry normie is an incel when in the environment of nearly all women.
People in general find white people more attractive than curries, who are stereotyped as creeps, especially if they look very Indian.
1 Mr_Breast 2018-05-18
Un north america though, brown people are loved and admired.
1 vanillatearbear 2018-05-18
I doubt they find you desirable, it's probably just that you're taken so you're safe to talk to (you're less likely to assume she's interested and start hitting on her). It's common female behavior.
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
Never said they found me desirable lol. I already know I’m ugly
1 vanillatearbear 2018-05-18
your tldr suggested otherwise
1 advancedatheist 2018-05-18
I keep saying this: Women have the veto power over who is welcome in society and who isn't.
The incel's grievance isn't that he can't get laid, but that he feels like his sexual eviction means that he is not welcome in society in general.
That one, critical first girlfriend makes a tremendous difference in how other women see you.
1 Mr-5-5 2018-05-18
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On TV they keep saying we just want sex and should go gay.
I'm glad someone else understands the ramifications of rejecting a portion of men.
1 advancedatheist 2018-05-18
I'm a 58 year old incel, so my life experience and decades of reflection on the Incel Question give me some insight into what is really going on here.
1 normalguywhoagrees95 2018-05-18
I think there is some truth in that, depending on the situation. But there are still a lot of people who get laid who are not accepted in society. It really depends if the woman who has the veto power, is accepted within society.
1 sailorgangordie 2018-05-18
This is massive lifefuel for me as an ethnic. What race is she btw? And how tall is she?
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
She is half black half white. She is about 2 inches shorter than me 5’5
1 Currycell92 2018-05-18
Mulatto Chics are pretty hot.
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
I lucked out. No different than winning the lottery, tbh
1 sailorgangordie 2018-05-18
Are you rich?
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
She makes more money than me currently. Both recent grads
1 chadbhava 2018-05-18
Cope you still invisible they trying to cuck you
1 -1-2-3-4-Fif- 2018-05-18
Huh?
1 chadbhava 2018-05-18
fact
1 TheiWindFelt 2018-05-18
Hi Twin.
1 phakahn 2018-05-18
Yeah when I had a girlfriend I thought I was a chad now but it didn't go like that. When I was dumped in weeks life became miserable one again.
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
Yeah I am always prepared to become an incel again. I know that nothing is certain so I still currently focus on bettering myself
1 trevmon 2018-05-18
you should follow red pill tactics. they actually work if someone is good looking enough to get a girl in the first place which you apparently are. in order to keep her from cheating you need to treat her like sht.
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
Great idea. Whaever I have been doing for the past four years obviously hasnt been working. I am start treating her like shit
1 dontcomplain1 2018-05-18
Just lol if you are a low status male. Might as well just rope tbh
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
It’s over, boyo
1 KarlEss 2018-05-18
You don't say!
1 Ji6S4W 2018-05-18
I've noticed the same thing here, I'm 38, incel, but I've managed to get a couple of relationships in the past, the first being at the age of 24. Neither of them lasted more than a month or two. But what I noticed, the first girlfriend was out of town, I literally dropped everything to move out there to her in an area where nobody knew me. So they did not know of my prior inability to attract women. Well, my gf at the time was actually pretty hot. And because I was with her, other women would approach me. I also got to see the type of stuff women say about incel men behind their backs (one of our friends was an incel guy).
My 2nd gf (at the age of 27) was back in my hometown, when I moved back, and people who previously knew me as "that quirky guy who doesn't get chicks," when I would walk down the road holding hands with her, you could literally feel the heat coming off of the normies, they'd literally come out on their porch to scowl. Relatives would belittle me about having a girlfriend because it came so much easier to them, they still viewed me as lesser than them....
Been incel/MGTOW ever since.
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
People are horrible. In this superficial society, people only care how you look and what you have.
1 im11andwhatisthis 2018-05-18
examples?
1 Ji6S4W 2018-05-18
I can't remember, it's been like 14 yrs ago, but she'd always put him down when it was just me and her at the house.
1 kejflk34jlkd 2018-05-18
I've never really been incel, but I've noticed the same thing. When I'm walking my dog alone, people rarely even make eye contact with me. When I walk my dog with a girl I'm dating, we get smiles and "hello" and a lot of time people will even stop to talk. Waitresses are nicer, uber drivers are nicer, etc. That's actually one of the toughest parts about breaking up. Not only do you lose your girlfriend, but you become invisible again to the general public.
1 AeriaGlorisHimself 2018-05-18
This may all be true but it's also the fact that you're out with another person and obviously in a more social and engaging modality, so of course people and women are going to talk to you more. Also these women and people engaging you are probably engaging her first because everyone knows women like to gab amongst each other, so naturally they start talking to you as well
1 minoxidilcel 2018-05-18
preselection is legit
1 Ade-lele 2018-05-18
This is so true. When I'm out by myself no one cares to interact with me, but if I go out with my SO people will at least do so because they want to keep the conversation going with her primarily. I'm a short white guy even. Usually every substantive question not about the weather or something else generic is asked to her or us simultaneously, with whoever is asking making eye contact with her. Women already have more social power with both sexes, but being the less attractive friend or SO multiplies it imo
1 gracefacespacecase 2018-05-18
That just isn't accurate, sorry. People generally are attracted to confidence, and it's likely you feel more confident around her.
1 everythingshewants7 2018-05-18
The halo effect of her looks o you. When will you start realize that everything in this society is fake and nobody really gives a fuck about you or anyone else.
1 13139 2018-05-18
And? Unless I meet someone I know or the person appears to want to talk I don't acknowledge their presence and behave as if they weren't there.
This is completely normal behavior in most cities.
1 LooksMatterToWomen 2018-05-18
It's not that you're more "attractive" when she's around, but that women aren't afraid you're gonna hit on them. An ugly guy with a girlfriend is still ugly, just not seen as creepy.
1 suicidal-pothead 2018-05-18
I always thought that was true. It's good to hear you have escaped inceldom though.
1 FireAlarm911 2018-05-18
I think it has a lot to do with confidence. I've never really had a girlfriend before, but after I lost my virginity (at age 21) I was on a roll for a while. I agree that "Just be confident" is retarded and very hard for the average person to do. Confidence comes from being successful and feeling validated in my opinion. I think it's just something women can sense somehow. Like they know somehow that you're getting laid and more women will be interested in you.
1 Nobodykers 2018-05-18
Having women around you means you are safe to engage on. It's like having a child. I don't think it has anything to do with you seeming more attractive.
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
I don’t really talk to them doe and they just keep attempting to talk and interact with me and touch my arm and shit. Idk it’s weird
1 ordinaryotaku 2018-05-18
k
1 not_good_looking 2018-05-18
Men are ignored and treated like a reject if they aren’t with anyone.
Women receive attention whether or not they are attached.
Female privilege. Care to comment inceltears?
1 SadIncel84 2018-05-18
Well glad fellow incel found his unicorn at least. Good for you man.
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
Thanks mane. I hope everyone in this community makes it
1 lonely_suicidal_cel 2018-05-18
Please teach me how to escape inceldom.
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
Luck the fuck. I did t have to have enough confidence to approach her in the first place
1 StoopidSeksyFlanders 2018-05-18
Try wearing a wedding band. Seriously.
1 GuyFromDaStore 2018-05-18
Women are competitive, if they see a non-single man they think to themselves "I wonder if I can steal him away from her"
1 HelpfulAttention 2018-05-18
Very true. I had a female friend who had a best friend that send her boyfriend nudes and would try to fuck him. It’s disgusting.
1 GuyFromDaStore 2018-05-18
Sometimes thats a loyalty test too.
1 changeIsTheWay 2018-05-18
Da. Ti si tako pametan.
1 normalguywhoagrees95 2018-05-18
Volcel is voluntary celibacy. I have had sex and girlfriends before. Now I retreat from society and hope to meet my snowflake outside of the toxic mainstream dating world.