Former Incel here: People treat me like I am invisible unless I am with my girlfriend

144  2018-05-18 by HelpfulAttention

So I escaped inceldom about four years ago when I ended up getting lucky and meeting my long-term girlfriend through a mutual friend. I am a severely below average black guy standing at 5'7. She is by most people's standard very attractive None of my friends could believe I was with her.

What I notice is that people treat much better when I am out with her. Girls actually look at me and notice me more and some have even started conversations with me if they I am at an event with her. It's disgusting.

Whenever I am out by myself, it's like I dont even exist again. Girls walk right past me as if I didnt even exist.

TDLR: Women find you more attractive if you are desirable by other women (no shit)

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It's the bandwagon effect.

Women want what other women want.

Also by hanging out with your girlfriend, a girl knows you're getting laid so she can let her guard down.

Women want what other women want.

P R E S E L E C T I O N

Da. Ti si tako pametan.

if a women find a guy attractive i am sure other women will find the guy cute because well they are women too i dont believe in the red pill "women want something then other women want it too"

How many inches?

BBC theory is legit, boyo. Honestly, above average (NO HOMO)

Give me numbers

I don’t think bbc is what got me in. She had one other boyfriend before me that was a white dude and he had a bigger cock than me

HE WANTS VOLUMETRIC MEASUREMENT

1488 inches

Little dicklet

So this white geezer had a bigger dick than you and your weighing in at a whopping 14.8 inches? Something isnt adding up

It’s a joke. I’m 7.5 inches

6ix wide, 9ine long

IT SHOULDNT HAVE TAKEN JESUS TO GET THIS INFO OUT OF YOU

Do you think its true? I think its a myth and that Black/White guys are virtually equal in size. If there is any difference its no more than a few centimeters, if that. It's perpetuated by the porn industry because they make money off it. They wont show big dick White guys and Black women because that doesn't sell, because more men prefer WHite women over Black women.

a few centimeters, even millimeters, is everything

I don’t think bbc is what got me in.

"she likes me for my personality bro"

God damn it I got cucked again

BBC theory is legit, boyo

It's backed by statistics, niggers have on average bigger, longer dicks, not by much, but it is visible

Happened to me too. Even when I'm out alone though in my case. It's funny because when I'm single it's all I can do to get a number (unless I pursue interaction, 20% success there) But when I'm taken or otherwise preoccupied (friends with benifits) I get loads of attention by girls of all ages and type. My guess is it is a pheromone thing, like they can literally sense that you've been laying the wood lately and they must investigate what you got. Can be exhilarating, but difficult when you wanna stay faithful.

I feel you. I feel like I’m so ugly I will always be able to remain faithful. Also, she did me a service by ridding me of inceldom so there is no way I would ever cheat on her

Yeah I feel the same most of the time, being faithful is something I have strived to remain despite the "attention".

I guess it's just the idea that there are all these chicks that passed on me that now message me and shit that gets me. I mean strangers are fun, but something about the ones who rejected you crawling back that feels pretty damn good.

I'm a fatcel (6'3, 350lbs.) But I got pretty damn lucky in that my wife is small, sexy and older. Opposites attract I guess, but I attribute the success to the whole pheromone thing.

Damn you could physically get any girl you want if you know what I mean

Sorry for the late response, I'm at work.

True, but I'd rather not have to go through all that trouble. I'll just stay in my niche, small women who like a big "teddy bear" to make them feel safe and what not.

Sidenote, I saw you talking about bbc theory, do you use that primarily to get chicks? I'm native american so I find that actually helps a bunch with most women, except the ones who are inherently racist, and even then it's like a weird hate fetish for them.

Yeah if you are a good height and ethnic they are going to want that big cock. White girls that get BLACKED would never get it from some short black, it would have to be some athlete 6’8 bull

Too true, I've heard even landwhales wax poetic about them to the point of just being nasty. Like yeah, I'm packing some heat but damn I ain t 12 inches. In my area I have some great friends who are short (like 5"4) black guys but they seem to pull all kinds of hotties, maybe try the le swag approach? Also, being ethnic is nice to a degree, especially when I've met the parents a few times. ("Oh, go easy on the wine chief") shit gets so old so fast.

I'm a fatcel (6'3, 350lbs.)

Volcel. (well not cel, but you might not be incel tier looks wise with genetics)

We have no idea what facial structure you have. But you could have an amazing face or at least average. Average looking face with 6'3" height is good enough for most women usually anyways if you bodymaxx.

Women are dumb cunts, that's why. They are sheeps. Herd mentality.

So why do you wanna be with one then? Sour grapes dude

biology makes us desire them

Really? So you yourself only want to have sex with a woman because biology makes you want to? If so that's why your not getting laid. Incel is not a reason to be a misogynist. The deeper you fall down the rabbit hole of misogyny, the further you get away from getting puss in the first place.

Lmao coming from a woman who was in a sugar daddy relationship and was being given money for sex. I'm sure his personality was great tho, he prob took like three showers a day for the cherry on top

Hahaha judge if you want- he still looks good and there is nothing between us. No money goggles here.

No money goggles here

thats nice of you

also you

I was in a sugardaddy relationship

Lmao is this real life? Hopefully he choked you when he was fucking you just so you couldn't say anymore retarded shit like this.

Would you be happy if all incels killed themselves?

Absolutely not! That's crazy! I think everyone has a right to be happy. I'm more of the spectrum of love and acceptance of all. I don't hate or pity incels. I feel like you guys should be given a break honestly. I think society puts too much pressure on males and females to be up to some stupid standard to get laid.

I’m a volcel, I choose to not be involved in mainstream societal dating because everyone is toxic and superficial.

Well- volcel is different. isn't it?

Volcel is voluntary celibacy. I have had sex and girlfriends before. Now I retreat from society and hope to meet my snowflake outside of the toxic mainstream dating world.

I knew the definition. I honestly do hope you find what makes you happy, whatever that maybe. I can be called names on Reddit. No sweat to me. I've done what's made me happy all the while not hurt anyone in the process. I've always been open and honest, but not in a cunt way. I've never cheated or been mean to a partner without provacation. I've never been hung up on what society deems acceptable or beautiful. So when people look up my comments and sling mud on a totally different sub- I think it's petty. To make a haste judgement that I am shallow, or dumb. No. I'm of average appearance but the other things I bring to the table have always been well received. That SD relationship refered to something that ended and remains an awesome friendship.

Hey, freakylittlesecrets, just a quick heads-up:
refered is actually spelled referred. You can remember it by two rs.
Have a nice day!

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Think of it in a biological way. They definately have a herd/sheep mentality. It is how they are wired. Men can be social but it is usually to let off steam. Then it is back to acrual shit that matters. Women are social to improve their status amongst the herd. The issue is this is all that matters. 60% of women don't work. Compared to 95% of men. Even less work full-time...No darling it's not a glass ceiling, theor is no wage gap. It's your biological make up and choice not to do so, and your goals in life differ.

Hey, Dickyknee85, just a quick heads-up:
definately is actually spelled definitely. You can remember it by -ite- not –ate-.
Have a nice day!

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They are "dumb cunts" and are easily manipulated like that and yet you can't figure out how to get one of them to go on a date with you. So what does that make you?

They're manipulated by their on kind you dumb fuck stop putting words in his mouth you moronic sack of useless shit.

So then if millions of women were to get manipulated into an abusive relationship, you would admit they were easily manipulated? Well, just look at the stats for abusive relationships and there you go. We’re talking literally hundreds of millions of women who have gotten into a relationship with a guy who proceeds to abuse them.

According to IncelTears, not saying misogynistic things on the internet is a prerequisite to getting a girlfriend, however not beating the daylight out of your girlfriend is apparently not a prerequisite.

Thank you fryxtz!

black guy

Only reason you were able toe escape inceldom. White privilege in the incel world is complete bullshit, just like it is everywhere else.

Affirmative action has gone too far

If you are a 6ft + ogrecel you can pull asian and some blacks bro.

only if he has a good face on the ogre body

Just be white theory is legit. I wouldn’t be incel if I was white.

White incels definitely have it easier than ricecels/currycels

In what reality?

Are you saying that currycels have it better than white incels?

White people set the beauty standards for most of society. Even in countries like India, people with "whiter" features are treated better than those with more stereotypical Indian features (facial structure, eyes, darker skin).

Your average white normie can still manage to get a gf as long as he isn't an extreme manlet or severely deformed (also curries are much shorter than white people on average). Your average curry normie is an incel when in the environment of nearly all women.

People in general find white people more attractive than curries, who are stereotyped as creeps, especially if they look very Indian.

Un north america though, brown people are loved and admired.

I doubt they find you desirable, it's probably just that you're taken so you're safe to talk to (you're less likely to assume she's interested and start hitting on her). It's common female behavior.

Never said they found me desirable lol. I already know I’m ugly

your tldr suggested otherwise

I keep saying this: Women have the veto power over who is welcome in society and who isn't.

The incel's grievance isn't that he can't get laid, but that he feels like his sexual eviction means that he is not welcome in society in general.

That one, critical first girlfriend makes a tremendous difference in how other women see you.

The incel's grievance isn't that he can't get laid, but that he feels like his sexual eviction means that he is not welcome in society in general.

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On TV they keep saying we just want sex and should go gay.

I'm glad someone else understands the ramifications of rejecting a portion of men.

I'm a 58 year old incel, so my life experience and decades of reflection on the Incel Question give me some insight into what is really going on here.

I think there is some truth in that, depending on the situation. But there are still a lot of people who get laid who are not accepted in society. It really depends if the woman who has the veto power, is accepted within society.

This is massive lifefuel for me as an ethnic. What race is she btw? And how tall is she?

She is half black half white. She is about 2 inches shorter than me 5’5

Mulatto Chics are pretty hot.

I lucked out. No different than winning the lottery, tbh

Are you rich?

She makes more money than me currently. Both recent grads

Cope you still invisible they trying to cuck you

Huh?

fact

Hi Twin.

Yeah when I had a girlfriend I thought I was a chad now but it didn't go like that. When I was dumped in weeks life became miserable one again.

Yeah I am always prepared to become an incel again. I know that nothing is certain so I still currently focus on bettering myself

you should follow red pill tactics. they actually work if someone is good looking enough to get a girl in the first place which you apparently are. in order to keep her from cheating you need to treat her like sht.

Great idea. Whaever I have been doing for the past four years obviously hasnt been working. I am start treating her like shit

Just lol if you are a low status male. Might as well just rope tbh

It’s over, boyo

You don't say!

I've noticed the same thing here, I'm 38, incel, but I've managed to get a couple of relationships in the past, the first being at the age of 24. Neither of them lasted more than a month or two. But what I noticed, the first girlfriend was out of town, I literally dropped everything to move out there to her in an area where nobody knew me. So they did not know of my prior inability to attract women. Well, my gf at the time was actually pretty hot. And because I was with her, other women would approach me. I also got to see the type of stuff women say about incel men behind their backs (one of our friends was an incel guy).

My 2nd gf (at the age of 27) was back in my hometown, when I moved back, and people who previously knew me as "that quirky guy who doesn't get chicks," when I would walk down the road holding hands with her, you could literally feel the heat coming off of the normies, they'd literally come out on their porch to scowl. Relatives would belittle me about having a girlfriend because it came so much easier to them, they still viewed me as lesser than them....

Been incel/MGTOW ever since.

People are horrible. In this superficial society, people only care how you look and what you have.

I also got to see the type of stuff women say about incel men behind their backs (one of our friends was an incel guy).

examples?

I can't remember, it's been like 14 yrs ago, but she'd always put him down when it was just me and her at the house.

I've never really been incel, but I've noticed the same thing. When I'm walking my dog alone, people rarely even make eye contact with me. When I walk my dog with a girl I'm dating, we get smiles and "hello" and a lot of time people will even stop to talk. Waitresses are nicer, uber drivers are nicer, etc. That's actually one of the toughest parts about breaking up. Not only do you lose your girlfriend, but you become invisible again to the general public.

This may all be true but it's also the fact that you're out with another person and obviously in a more social and engaging modality, so of course people and women are going to talk to you more. Also these women and people engaging you are probably engaging her first because everyone knows women like to gab amongst each other, so naturally they start talking to you as well

preselection is legit

This is so true. When I'm out by myself no one cares to interact with me, but if I go out with my SO people will at least do so because they want to keep the conversation going with her primarily. I'm a short white guy even. Usually every substantive question not about the weather or something else generic is asked to her or us simultaneously, with whoever is asking making eye contact with her. Women already have more social power with both sexes, but being the less attractive friend or SO multiplies it imo

That just isn't accurate, sorry. People generally are attracted to confidence, and it's likely you feel more confident around her.

The halo effect of her looks o you. When will you start realize that everything in this society is fake and nobody really gives a fuck about you or anyone else.

Girls walk right past me as if I didnt even exist.

And? Unless I meet someone I know or the person appears to want to talk I don't acknowledge their presence and behave as if they weren't there.

This is completely normal behavior in most cities.

It's not that you're more "attractive" when she's around, but that women aren't afraid you're gonna hit on them. An ugly guy with a girlfriend is still ugly, just not seen as creepy.

I always thought that was true. It's good to hear you have escaped inceldom though.

I think it has a lot to do with confidence. I've never really had a girlfriend before, but after I lost my virginity (at age 21) I was on a roll for a while. I agree that "Just be confident" is retarded and very hard for the average person to do. Confidence comes from being successful and feeling validated in my opinion. I think it's just something women can sense somehow. Like they know somehow that you're getting laid and more women will be interested in you.

Having women around you means you are safe to engage on. It's like having a child. I don't think it has anything to do with you seeming more attractive.

I don’t really talk to them doe and they just keep attempting to talk and interact with me and touch my arm and shit. Idk it’s weird

girlfriend "former" incel

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Men are ignored and treated like a reject if they aren’t with anyone.

Women receive attention whether or not they are attached.

Female privilege. Care to comment inceltears?

Well glad fellow incel found his unicorn at least. Good for you man.

Thanks mane. I hope everyone in this community makes it

Please teach me how to escape inceldom.

Luck the fuck. I did t have to have enough confidence to approach her in the first place

Try wearing a wedding band. Seriously.

Women are competitive, if they see a non-single man they think to themselves "I wonder if I can steal him away from her"

Very true. I had a female friend who had a best friend that send her boyfriend nudes and would try to fuck him. It’s disgusting.

Sometimes thats a loyalty test too.

Da. Ti si tako pametan.

Volcel is voluntary celibacy. I have had sex and girlfriends before. Now I retreat from society and hope to meet my snowflake outside of the toxic mainstream dating world.