Anyone can escape inceldom.

64  2018-05-17 by peekurchoo

It's been 2.5 years since I've been made aware of blackpill/redpill/PUA/lookism/sluthate/whatever ideology. At one point all I did was sit on forums and rant, but I realized coping =/= actually solving the problem. I currently am a 4/10 facially (people legit think I have down's syndrome), but in the past 2.5 years I figured out exactly what surgery I needed and logistics, and then I worked to make enough money to pay for it. I'm currently scheduled for a LF1 + LF3 + BSSO + implants next month.

This is not a post to brag, it's a post to make some people aware that it doesn't have to be Chad memes forever. Find out what you need, make money, become good looking.

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Are we going to see some before and after pics?

After I get surgery, I promise I will follow through with another post like the guy with the rhinoplasty/chin implant did.

If you ask the mods I'm sure they would make an exception

/u/Board_Gaming mommy make an exception for this guy

Milkies? 🥛

send the pictures to me and i'll post them for you to spite the censorous mods -_-

after all, at that point they wouldnt be selfies anymore :2

Some people are anxious and also incapable of accumulating the money. But congrats

I have extreme anxiety that hinders me in 'normal' workplaces i.e. retail. It's taken me some time but I've found several jobs where I can make the money without being so anxious.

Ya, but you can't get girls being anxious

I personally have a select few things that makes my anxiety manifest. I think once you learn what triggers your anxiety, it's quite easy to control it instead of let it control you. That being said, I still am slightly anxious around girls, but probably not any more anxious than they are around guys they find attractive.

Wrong

How long does it take to recover and be healed from surgery? It seems like it would be hard to hold a job and have surgery if it takes a while to recover or be able to go out in public.

This is an issue I am currently still trying to solve. I will probably put in a 2 weeks notice for my job before I go under the knife.

I've been curious about the LF3, but I thought they won't perform it for cosmetic reasons?

Where there's a will, there's a way! I'll provide more details on that when I make my follow up post.

I wish you success on the surgery man

Thank you!

cant fix low iq, manletism, and ethnicity

That's a self fulfilling prophecy if you're speaking personally.

? it's a self-fulfilling prophecy to be short and brown??

No. It's a self fulfilling prophecy if all you do is use that statement as a cope to give up hope that there are women willing to have sex with you being short and brown instead of actively trying to prove that your race and height are not your limiting factors. As I mentioned in one of my other comments, I believe that while race/height matter, facial aesthetics are the final selling point.

I did prove that race and height were the limiting factors by making a fake Chad account on Tinder and saying the exact same things. Checkmate!

PS: face can be changed. height cannot

I'll give you that for being on Tinder lol but Tinder =/= real life

The real women from real life responding to my Chad profile were not bots.

How tall are you btw? You realize leg-lengthening surgery is extremely dangerous and only gives you about 2 inches, right? Even with LL and lifts the tallest I could ever get is 5'9" until I took my shoes off and then I'd be 5'7". Maybe you should just spend your money on prostitutes and save yourself a lot of hassle.

I'm 5'11. While I can't really understand being shorter than that, I still believe having a good face can override other bad physical factors. You may have ran that test on Tinder, but try having a 5'5 with a good face approach 100 girls in real life, I feel like it'd go a bit differently.

The thing is, I do have a good face. The proof of that is gay guys hit on me constantly (because height is not a requirement for them) and in another Tinder experiment I did where I did not mention my height while only showing close up shots. I went to bars and shit all throughout my 20s and I hit on far more than 100 chicks with no success. I ended up losing my virginity to a prostitute.

That's super-great that you're above average height dude. But it's over for heightcels. Don't blame the victim.

Not true. One of my friends is a 5'6"-5'7" man-whore, picking up girls and banging them left and right. He does have great charisma, face and muscles tho.

You're trying to negatively influence someone else's life to justify your own (self-inflicted) suffering. Are you aware of this?

I was trying to positively influence his life by informing him that face is irrelevant if he doesn't have the height to go with it, but fortunately he's over 6' with shoes so no worries for him.

Are you under the impression that no one under a certain height can get a date?

Are you under the impression that MtF trannies are real women?

If I can pull women as a tranny, what does that say about you? 🤔

Dude you’re wrong by saying anyone can get out of being an incel, and I’m not even incel. Given how selective women are in western society, a man born with sub par height, intelligence, body structure, and race can’t do much, or anything really, to fix himself. A woman can literally put on makeup and attract men no matter how terrible she is physically and emotionally. Men don’t have that option. You’re lucky enough to afford plastic surgery, while many others cannot. You’re also lucky enough to have other redeeming qualities (like race, height) that allow you to live a normal life once your surgery is complete. Again, others don’t have those qualities.

Yeah it's amazing how racist women are in general. Right now in a Muslim city but the Muslim locals never swipe back. My Tinder activity are just Russian ladies and a few other westerners in my area but the number of Tinder profiles seems to be like 12.

I did not account for race/height in the making of this post. This is partially because I consider the true condemning factor of inceldom to be one's facial aesthetics. This is simply my belief on what constitutes inceldom, doesn't mean I'm right.

But I do agree that I'm lucky to have made it here.

I agree with most but intelligence is cope mate. Femoids don't care whether or not you have a Nobel Prize, in fact it can even be repulsive for them. Only thing they look for is a gigachad they can exhibit at their inst*gram, everything else is negotiable.

You’re right. Intelligence doesn’t really help you, but I was trying to say that a severe lack of intelligence can hurt you. Like if you’re half retarded, it’s going to be hard to make money to afford plastic surgery.

Dont reproduse u fking idiot. That will only produce suffering. To your kids and u when ur slutty wife divorce rapes you after the uggos are born

I forgot to mention I'm also scheduled to get a vasectomy. I also don't plan on getting married for a while, but thanks for the consideration.

Nice, positive attitude đź‘Ť good luck with the surgery and all that comes after.

No reputable surgeon in America will perform a Lefort-3 for cosmetic reasons. Unless you go to a third world country your not getting it done.

Generally speaking, you are correct in regards to a surgeon that considers the risks (both ethical and physical). Mine is actually a modified LF-3. Something I should have clarified earlier. I am in the US.

The only way to eldorado is surgery

You can't get taller.

Gl OP. Plastic surgery is excellent and with the right surgeon it’ll make a huge difference on your appearance.

I had a chin implant put in because of my recessive chin 2 years ago and it looks so much better. I have so much more confidence now.

Here’s a pic of it for those curious

https://imgur.com/a/5a8FXLV

I paid $4200... was worth it and more.

You look pretty decent tbh. How tall are you? Why are you an incel? Genuinely curious

Im 6’2”. I’m not an incel, though I was when I was 19. I’m doing fine now, but sometimes I still read these forums and occasionally try to help out some guys who are willing to listen/not too far gone.

I can appreciate that. 6’2” is such a blessing though

Massive difference. How has it impacted your dating life?

It’s hard to say. I was an incel until I got my first gf at 19 from tinder. I got the chin implant soon after we started dating. I was off the market for 3 years until we somewhat recently broke up.

afterwards I had much better luck on tinder/bumble but I also had been lifting for 3 more years and was way more muscular, which also had a significant impact.

surgery looks great dude, dare i say $4000 great

Thanks mate

Looks good man! Glad you went through with it.

Damn. Low tier normie / incel to upper tier normie / Chadlite.

How did this make your ramus and the rest of your jaw so much stronger? Was this a wraparound implant?

Many incels are in third world countries or living in poor households(or worse, both) can you give a solution for that?

My advice is limited. I've traveled to several third world countries and I know what you're talking about. My best friend came here from Dominica (pretty third world), and he has been through hell and high water, but he's finally working on a degree on a full ride to college. So my advice, try to get out of your 3rd world country through all and any means then start from the bottom and work your way up until you're financially stable. But this is just my .02$

wat is lf1lf3bsso bro?

Jaw surgery.

volcel if you don't know those procedures

Or dumcel? I can handle that.

Right now and last year there were only like 12 women near me on Tinder. Sometimes I wish I could move to USA and then get to swipe on the 1,000+ active women. When I used the GPS Passport on Tinder Gold I was able to score a crazy number of matches in places like Ukraine but work takes me to shitholes where women haven't heard of Tinder and they can't really speak English.

Good luck with surviving the LF3.

JFL tbh

LF3 isn't really that dangerous if it's surgery.

I hope the surgeries work out just as intended boyo. Hope you would ascend and I wish you the best of luck.

cant wait to see your incel to incel transformation.

I'm currently scheduled for a LF1 + LF3 + BSSO + implants

LF3

No, you aren't. Stop lying

This a bad idea OP, don't do it.

Ey man, I basically need the same surgeries ( modified lefort 3, not sure what you're getting), how much money is this going to cost you? Also, why lefort 3 instead of midface distraction osteogenesis?

The LF3 itself is a pretty penny, but hospitalization for it alone costs 50,000. I didn't really explore the option of midface distraction osteogenesis, but to be honest I can't really imagine that.

Damn, that ain't cheap, I'm hoping 100k will be able to cover it all. Also, what implants are you getting? Orbital rims?

Gonial/ramus implants. As I said in my post, this is a 2-part op because all the stuff I need to be done would take too long in a single surgery; first surgery is fixing my bad forward growth. Second surgery is polishing the first and widening my chin/jaw + implants. Also I think if you've got 100k you're good to go.

Sounds good, I hope your endeavor is successful.

Lol have fun getting your maxilla and jaw cracked apart and held together with screws/plates. Big chance of nerve damage, infection, bleed, poor cosmetic outcome, months of eating through a straw, just to be a 4.5/10 JFL look what the roasties have done to us. LOOK WHAT THEY MADE US GIVE

no amount of money, facial surgery can help a REAL incel

fuck off normie

You assume everyone here isn't out trying

I am on tinder/okc, approach women when deemed appropriate, and do as much as possible to maintain and improve appearance ( though I am ugly)

Here is where to vent and talk about how shit the dating game is for men below 8/10

Bro, you are going to hurt. I had a BSSO done at the start of this year, and that motherfucker was painful, can’t imagine what a LF 3 is going to be like.

You misspelled "rope."

Stop lying, firstly no cosmetic surgeon would recommend a LF1 coupled with a LF3, let alone go through with them. Secondly, if you don’t have an underbite those surgeries will make you look like an ape. Thirdly, if you had that much money you wouldn’t be an incel.

How long do you need to be in braces before and after for this? That's the main deterrent to me doing this shit

You look pretty decent tbh. How tall are you? Why are you an incel? Genuinely curious

Massive difference. How has it impacted your dating life?

My advice is limited. I've traveled to several third world countries and I know what you're talking about. My best friend came here from Dominica (pretty third world), and he has been through hell and high water, but he's finally working on a degree on a full ride to college. So my advice, try to get out of your 3rd world country through all and any means then start from the bottom and work your way up until you're financially stable. But this is just my .02$

Looks good man! Glad you went through with it.

The LF3 itself is a pretty penny, but hospitalization for it alone costs 50,000. I didn't really explore the option of midface distraction osteogenesis, but to be honest I can't really imagine that.

Damn. Low tier normie / incel to upper tier normie / Chadlite.

Sounds good, I hope your endeavor is successful.

How did this make your ramus and the rest of your jaw so much stronger? Was this a wraparound implant?