I think there are evil traits on both genders, just different kinds of evil, because of the different physiologies of the two, for example, evil women lean more towards bulliying others and destroying their reputations and ruining lives and on the dude side I guess that would be violence and greed.
But I guess that's all misogynistic rambling cuz reeeeeeeeeeeeeee women are just violent as men and men falsely accuse people of things just as often.
Men are only beginning to wake up and see women for how they truly are.
People have been saying this for years. It's a nice thought, but... let's not take comfort in the (most likely false) hope that things are going to get better, it'll only make things hurt more as we realize how untrue it is. I personally accept that the world is shit, and take comfort in the fact that one day I'll die and I won't have to deal with this BS anymore.
I know too many dudes that are either pumping and dumping, absolutely unwilling to commit to women because they do not respect them at all, or absolutely avoiding romantic relationships as much as possible. When I was younger it was different, but things are definitely changing.
It's why women don't just reject you. Oh no. They want to humiliate you. Convince you to turn gay. Lock you in jail. Have someone kill you. Or tease you the point where you kill youself.
These are some of the most true words I've ever read here.
Like you said, women are unaware of themselves at least to the degree that would prevent them from feeling guilt sincerely.
Not as much die as much as not wanting you to reproduce. Why even care what women think of your sexual fitness anyway? Do what you enjoy and strive towards a goal. If you do that women won't humiliate you, I promise.
You aren't good socially then. People have treated me badly, what you do is joke it off or chastise and talk down to them. If you react poorly and take offense then will become a target. I can already tell you react by taking offense from this short conversation.
If you get humiliated a lot it means you take life too seriously and get sensitive about things. I know because I've been there. There's a couple characteristics people want in a social situation; easy-going, fun, and lighthearted. If you're sensitive, defensive, and intense people are going to pick on you. Incels (I used to be one) are generally too sensitive and too intense and that's why they have problems socially. Learn to joke, be lighthearted and focus on your goal and then you can never be humiliated.
Dear social god that happens to be commenting on braincels (fucking lol), doesn't matter how we react, 100 times later it's gonna get to you no matter how hard you try to make a joke out of it. You're gonna realize you're lying to yourself at one point saying you really don't care if you're repeatedly humiliated. It contradicts basic human needs. Meanwhile you sound like a bitch that lets others shit on your head.
The thing is if you get humiliated in the first place it's showing poor social skills, if you get one humiliation you have to bounce back. You don't want to be known as the guy that takes L's all the time. I don't know what life you're living where you get humiliated 100 times but that means you aren't staying in your lane. Learn your limits and don't be sensitive.
How? Humiliation means you didn't navigate the social situation properly. Second if a single person is insulting you or harassing you for no reason, it's a deficiency in them and not you. If multiple people are going out of their way to humiliate you, you have done something wrong.
Having a family used to be a primary goal, times have changed. You have to adapt, having a family is now considered a secondary supplementary goal. Your primary goal should be something that has to with improving society.
Sorry but a recent cultural shift can’t override literally billions of years of evolution. Reproduction has been the second most important thing behind mere survival for literally every organism ever. It’s baked into the cake of life to prioritize reproduction, and to be distressed and resentful if you are rendered incapable of it.
I mean you could always work hard and find a traditional girl who's reserved and wants to have a family. They exist. Not every women is a degenerate single mom.
That's been the case throughout history. The mechanism of evolution is inherently eugenic-like. Why do you think evolution is still a controversial subject even today? The religious types who think god created us get caught up in cognitive dissonance because reality is that we were forged through evolution.
Then we need to stop shaming the idea of eugenics and start selecting for men and women who are intelligent and kind. Else women are going to destroy the human species with their attraction to violent gorilla men, there's no reason women who are brainless and emotionally driven should have the steering wheel.
Governments do all they can by rewarding productive people and punishing destructive people. That's the reason law exists. The law is agreed upon rules to increase the productivity of their country.
I also said do something about it which could be a lot of things besides becoming a politician. Low IQ post by you for not understanding the main point.
Posting an opinion is different than whining. "Society is not doing all it can anymore. whaaaaa" That statement is just taking all the responsibility off of you, it's weak external locus of control whining. You are part of society and you can do something about it. Or you can sit on the outside and whine. Internal locus of control vs. external locus of control.
Governments do all they can by rewarding productive people and punishing destructive people
Bruh look at the imigration, refugee data in some of EU countries.. It's the exact opposite of what you're saying. Governments are doing the wrong things repeatedly pushed by the illusion of morality. Same goes with blatantly favoring women in every social aspect ever.
Just jerk of to clear your head if you need to. Contrary to nofaps opinion, if you are obsessed with sex and having sexual thoughts is bothering you, just masturbate. You need to be able to focus on a mission.
I just want the rope tbh. I also want to reproduce, even though I'm not entitled to it. I want to know what it feels like to hold another girl's hand, to cuddle with her, for us to love each other. Why does life have to be so cruel?
I agree somewhat. This is why women get pissed if they reject you then they see you with another woman of equal or greater attractiveness. They HATE you for being ugly and they want you to suffer.
This. Women will hate me even if I manage to walk in the street with a beautiful woman. They will say nasty things like “is she an escort?” Or “oh wow, you have a gf? Lol”. Even if I somehow get out of inceldom and get a girlfriend, none of the girls will believe me and will still be very suspicious of me. One time this girl thought that the girl I was walking to was my girlfriend and so I joked aprund and said “she’s my first” and the girl completed my sentence for me “and the last”.
"....they see you with another woman of equal or greater attractiveness." This sounds VERY familiar. Most incels aren't ugly below average, they just haven't found the right girl or enough confidence to sustain a relationship with someone.
Don’t let this one aspect ruin the rest of your life. It’s not great but it’s the best we got. Guys out there who are retarded, missing arms, plenty of shit worse than this.
Fuck escorts if you wanna (I do) and just do whatever else u wanna do.
Really? A Harvard study determined that women are evil? Please link it. The brainwashing is in the extreme group polarization among incels causing this ridiculous hatred for everyone with a vagina and everyone else without one for that matter because you can’t find holes to stick your dicks in.
I see what you're saying, but what I don't get is why you think this is a bad thing (other than the fact that you're just concerned about your own dick and nothing else)
Selectivity in mating is present in pretty much every species, evolutionary and biological instincts make us all want to propagate our species well, to be better, stronger, smarter.. Would you prefer that our species is only propagated by low-tier genetic having individuals until we eventually retard and weaken ourselves out of existence? We're actually the only species that cares enough to bother to keep low, or no value individuals alive and integrated into our society. You know what happens when a deformed, sick, or retarded animal is born out in the wild? The parents eat it, or abandon it to die. When human babies are born with deformities or horrible conditions the parents continue to love it and raise it and we waste tons of time and medical resources just to keep them alive. Human empathy (specifically female empathy - mother's love) is the only reason that some people even get to exist. If you were any other species, it would actually be far worse.
So, when you're talking about selectivity as it relates to something like the genetic makeup of, let's say, a small population. They are not selecting for the genes that are beneficial. For example, let's say foids select for a strong Chad. Guess what? Physical strength is not that genetically advantageous anymore because we have the invention of the forklift. In other words their selections are archaic. That's why the way they select is not beneficial
You're fuckin delusional if you think that girls are attracted to intellect. I don't even need to debate the specificities of Hawkings family. At best he's an outlier.
Intelligent women are attracted to intellect. He was probably the legit most unattractive man in existence, by your reasoning, he should have been incel, except he wasn't.
ALL of the nobel prize winners for last year in Physics (none of whom are attractive) have wives and children. Except the objectively least attractive one, Kip Throne, who actually had 2 wives.
Are they "outliers" as well? How many outliers do we have here?
The reality is that they are all high value men and there were women who saw that and paired with them.
Wow this is the lowest IQ comment in this entire thread. That has nothing to do with whether or not women are attracted to intelligence, for one.
In the absence of migration and with constant environment
This is not reality, this is describing a completely unusual situation for humans. We are a species that is constantly migrating... What is being described here is basically a whole bunch of inbreeding. No shit that would lower intelligence.
LOL @ thinking migration in this study has any relation to inbreeding. It's about controlling for the current US populations' trends without any major changes in demographics.
attributed to additive genes rather than shared environment.
Selection against high intelligence has been observed
throughout most of the 20th century in Europe and the
United States (Cattell, 1936, 1937; Lynn & van Court 2004;
Retherford & Sewell, 1988; van Court & Bean, 1985), where it
was probably present since the beginning of the fertility
transition in the 19th century (Notestein, 1936; Stevenson,
1920). We can estimate that without this selection effect the
average intelligence in these countries today would be up to 5
points higher than it is—about as high as the average IQ in
China today (Lynn & Vanhanen, 2006), where reproductive
differentials still favored wealth, literacy and presumably
intelligence in the early part of the 20th century (Lamson,
1935; Notestein, 1938)
Roastie getting toasty because your "female empathy" is getting exposed as pure female idiocy and selfishness lmao
You're diverting farther from the original topic to try to promote your own viewpoint of "wimmenz are evil" but the reality is still that if you were born any other species you wouldn't have to deal with being incel because your mother wouldn't have wasted the time and effort raising you. She would have instinctively known you were low value the moment you flopped out and would have done something about it.
I like how you responded directly to my previous post but are now trying to deflect the topic since you have no response to it anymore. Classic. The entire topic of this thread is females and genetic selection.
The only way a female could know if their incel son was a genetic failure at birth is if they came out completely deformed which doesn't apply to most incels. Your point here is just completely nonsensical since you've been driven into toasty roastie rage.
then I assume you're childfree, nothing good can come from the womb of a female who is so low-value she has nothing to do besides attain lightyears of ledditor karma. if you have a child lol, I can imagine the panic in your mind wondering if they're going to turn out incels every year they grow up
You think you're completely free from the incel problem but you don't realize that your daughter or granddaughter will produce incels down the line. You can't escape genetic karma, I guess you'll teach your daughter to kill her low-value sons if it comes to that.
OK you've completely fucking lost it lol. You guys are supposed to be the intelligent and emotionally stable bunch too, huh? He makes one reasonable counterpoint and that's all it takes for you to throw an explosive temper tantrum talking about "ur lucky ur human cuz theyd sense u need to be killed in the womb!"
I missed the "completely" before deformed in his initial post but your point is still stupid. It's not nearly as easy to differentiate good from bad before any actual growth from the offspring. Most babies and kids are good looking with the exception of the extremely deformed.
extremely short-sighted comment as expected from a femoid.
women and their primitive brains don't select for anything except appearance. the next tesla will never pass on his genes because women haven't evolved past selecting for the caveman who has a bigger jawline and can thus beat up the other cavemen.
moreover if females actually had empathy then the subhuman females would realize that they shouldn't reproduce either, but every woman is told "U GO GIRL" and "you're entitled to love" regardless if they're genuinely mentally retarded and physically deformed, thus creating the next wave of incels.
We can't afford to be more selective, we already outnumber you cunts 107:100 until we hit our 50's. The only men that can afford to be selective are giga chads.
The fact that we decide our partners based on genetics is in itself outdated. We as a species already made natural selection obsolete by changing our environment to accommodate us in virtually every part of the world.
The last thing we have is sexual selection, which in itself is not needed because secondary sex characteristics do nothing for your survival; a tall man is actually at more of a risk given that we have firearms.
In the future, either we will figure out how to perform genetic engineering to make all of us conventionally attractive, or we will all transition to bionics, become cyborgs and get rid of our need to have sexual relations.
Just because something is obsolete doesn't mean it's not still biologically there.. we're still attracted to what nature intended us to be. We've created a world in which low value individuals can still survive.. but we still ultimately want our offspring to be high value
would you apply this philosophy of social Darwinism to society at large? If competition for mates is what it is, then why are so many women ALSO pushing for socialist policies that reduce competition and enable less talented, less superior competitors to survive? Unless you're a hardcore Trad Thot that believes in laissez-faire free market economies, low taxes and small gov't...
it is amazing to see how you're only okay with brutal competition in JUST the mating aspect of society, but nowhere else.
I have no idea what you're referring to specifically, you could not have been more vague.. the job market? Government? Hiring more unqualified women and poc? Keep in mind that I'm not a feminist in any sense of the word so if you're trying to apply me to feminist ideologies you're barking up the wrooong tree.
Or option 3, once we can emulate a human brain and know exactly how the brain works, we can change the brain to be attracted to everyone and not have standards
Honestly I only answered because I wished that my parents decided to kill me so that I didn't have to live a life like this. Why was I born? I'm living but I'm not living.
^ this is proof that women’s mentality will have kept us living in the Stone Age killing each other with clubs and sticks because someone is 1% more inferior than another.
Women want average and below average men to simply fulfill their role as the eager, good natured eunuchs that they're supposed to be, in exchange they'll hide their ever increasing contempt for us.
Most people have an automatic disgust when seeing ugly people in sexual(or even pseudo-sexual relationships like with sexbots) since it reduces the genetic quality of society.
That's simplistic dumb logic you used there. The reality is that women prefer incels to shut up and remain virgin because they want society to keep working for free for them and they dont want to face the fact that their pickiness is making life worse for everybody by reducing the motivation of men to work. They dont care that it's unfair, they just want the gravy train to keep coming so their only choice is to play the issue down and act like it's just worthless losers who need to clean up their act and that it's all their personal fault. They dont want to admit the hard truth that women being subjects to men is the way that nature intended us to work and how the bible intended us to live. They dont want to admit that their freedom is ruining society, literally. They dont and cant admit that it isn't even working for their own lives, it isn't making them any happier. It's a hard pill for anybody to swallow and women cant do it: that it would be best for them to be reigned by man, on all levels.
That's why roping is the worst action you take, its literally submitting in the ultimate form, letting them win by giving them the only thing you have...your life
Wow. Just wow if any of you actually believe this bullshit.
Guess what? No one cares about you unless they know you. Random women don't waste their energy wishing you were dead. You aren't that important.
But if you thought you weren't a deeply hated and persecuted minority then you'd have to accept that you don't matter to people unless you make an effort. And effort is what most of you want to avoid at all costs.
Its even worse than you think. Women don't want you to die, they forget about you 5 minutes after encountering you. They don't even waste any brain cells processing any memory of you.
No. The reason why women have an automatic in-group bias is because they collectively experience oppression from a dominantly male society. They all have personal experiences of gender-based oppression, so they are less likely to be distrustful of women.
That doesn't make any sense. Why wouldn't oppressed men have such a bias as well? Why would women who weren't oppressed have an in group bias? Would oppression really count for 100% in group preference?
this is just....so much dumb. so much dumb it hurts. it baffles me not only that people think like this, but that people would actually put this forward as a thing.
I know too many dudes that are either pumping and dumping, absolutely unwilling to commit to women because they do not respect them at all, or absolutely avoiding romantic relationships as much as possible. When I was younger it was different, but things are definitely changing.
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1 qwep-mi 2018-05-17
Women are evil and they dont know it
1 Bradley_Haran 2018-05-17
lol that's a bit of a stretch imo
I think there are evil traits on both genders, just different kinds of evil, because of the different physiologies of the two, for example, evil women lean more towards bulliying others and destroying their reputations and ruining lives and on the dude side I guess that would be violence and greed.
But I guess that's all misogynistic rambling cuz reeeeeeeeeeeeeee women are just violent as men and men falsely accuse people of things just as often.
1 Intelligent_Card 2018-05-17
The blackest black pill is that women do know they're evil and choose to hide rather than change their ways.
Once you realize what women really are, everything makes more sense. Don't look at their words, look at their actions.
1 literallyarealperson 2018-05-17
Women are wonderful effect blinds men.
Men are only beginning to wake up.
1 Mr_Breast 2018-05-17
People have been saying this for years. It's a nice thought, but... let's not take comfort in the (most likely false) hope that things are going to get better, it'll only make things hurt more as we realize how untrue it is. I personally accept that the world is shit, and take comfort in the fact that one day I'll die and I won't have to deal with this BS anymore.
1 literallyarealperson 2018-05-17
I know too many dudes that are either pumping and dumping, absolutely unwilling to commit to women because they do not respect them at all, or absolutely avoiding romantic relationships as much as possible. When I was younger it was different, but things are definitely changing.
1 Orig_analUse_rname 2018-05-17
It will happen. And when it does...be ready for war.
1 toomanynames1998 2018-05-17
Poison running through my veins!
1 literallyarealperson 2018-05-17
These are some of the most true words I've ever read here.
Like you said, women are unaware of themselves at least to the degree that would prevent them from feeling guilt sincerely.
1 greeneyesloosethighs 2018-05-17
woah there Mr Rodgers, let's get you back into the common room
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
Not as much die as much as not wanting you to reproduce. Why even care what women think of your sexual fitness anyway? Do what you enjoy and strive towards a goal. If you do that women won't humiliate you, I promise.
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-17
I have a box full of lived experiences that would beg to differ.
1 Hoeasss 2018-05-17
Same with me
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
You can't be humiliated if you are truly going after a goal because you're too focused on achieving it that you don't care what other people think.
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-17
Other people can still humiliate me in front of others, me not caring doesn't change that it's still happening.
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
You can't control other people, you can only control your own reactions.
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-17
And my own reactions don't change the fact that other people still treat me like ass.
Are you being willfully dense?
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
You aren't good socially then. People have treated me badly, what you do is joke it off or chastise and talk down to them. If you react poorly and take offense then will become a target. I can already tell you react by taking offense from this short conversation.
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-17
A rather interesting statement to come from.a person who has never met me.
Because you totally know how I act irl. Lmao, can you be any more condescending?
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
If you get humiliated a lot it means you take life too seriously and get sensitive about things. I know because I've been there. There's a couple characteristics people want in a social situation; easy-going, fun, and lighthearted. If you're sensitive, defensive, and intense people are going to pick on you. Incels (I used to be one) are generally too sensitive and too intense and that's why they have problems socially. Learn to joke, be lighthearted and focus on your goal and then you can never be humiliated.
1 SoonelyDoodely 2018-05-17
Dear social god that happens to be commenting on braincels (fucking lol), doesn't matter how we react, 100 times later it's gonna get to you no matter how hard you try to make a joke out of it. You're gonna realize you're lying to yourself at one point saying you really don't care if you're repeatedly humiliated. It contradicts basic human needs. Meanwhile you sound like a bitch that lets others shit on your head.
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
The thing is if you get humiliated in the first place it's showing poor social skills, if you get one humiliation you have to bounce back. You don't want to be known as the guy that takes L's all the time. I don't know what life you're living where you get humiliated 100 times but that means you aren't staying in your lane. Learn your limits and don't be sensitive.
1 SoonelyDoodely 2018-05-17
You already contradicted yourself in the very first clause. I'm not even gonna read the rest, you're a joke.
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
How? Humiliation means you didn't navigate the social situation properly. Second if a single person is insulting you or harassing you for no reason, it's a deficiency in them and not you. If multiple people are going out of their way to humiliate you, you have done something wrong.
1 AyeThatsAGoodNagger 2018-05-17
What if what I enjoy is a relationship and my goal is to be a father?
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
Having a family used to be a primary goal, times have changed. You have to adapt, having a family is now considered a secondary supplementary goal. Your primary goal should be something that has to with improving society.
1 AyeThatsAGoodNagger 2018-05-17
Sorry but a recent cultural shift can’t override literally billions of years of evolution. Reproduction has been the second most important thing behind mere survival for literally every organism ever. It’s baked into the cake of life to prioritize reproduction, and to be distressed and resentful if you are rendered incapable of it.
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
Yes, I know, but that doesn't change the fact that your primary goal shouldn't be reproducing.
1 SophisticatedDalek 2018-05-17
Just fucking lol at becoming a cuck whose goal is to improve society and support Chad
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
I mean you could always work hard and find a traditional girl who's reserved and wants to have a family. They exist. Not every women is a degenerate single mom.
1 SophisticatedDalek 2018-05-17
Yeah maybe overseas. Just fucking lol at signing a marriage contract with an American woman.
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
Then give up on women if you think the situation is hopeless.
1 SophisticatedDalek 2018-05-17
It's not. Only in the US and West Europe until it crashes under the financial burden of feminism.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-17
You and your American exceptionalism. Human nature is the same everywhere.
1 SophisticatedDalek 2018-05-17
I know. The difference is the level of which women's shitty behavior is subsidized by the government vs. controlled by society.
1 SoonelyDoodely 2018-05-17
Coming from the guy who said ''who cares what others/ society thinks about you, if you're dedicated enough you're not gonna care"
Just fucking lol at your ass. As though people won't want to have families because society is changing. Stupid hypocrite.
1 Mr_Breast 2018-05-17
Women are pro-eugenics confirmed?
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
That's been the case throughout history. The mechanism of evolution is inherently eugenic-like. Why do you think evolution is still a controversial subject even today? The religious types who think god created us get caught up in cognitive dissonance because reality is that we were forged through evolution.
1 Mr_Breast 2018-05-17
Then we need to stop shaming the idea of eugenics and start selecting for men and women who are intelligent and kind. Else women are going to destroy the human species with their attraction to violent gorilla men, there's no reason women who are brainless and emotionally driven should have the steering wheel.
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
Governments do all they can by rewarding productive people and punishing destructive people. That's the reason law exists. The law is agreed upon rules to increase the productivity of their country.
1 Mr_Breast 2018-05-17
Society is not doing att it can anymore, and it's getting worse.
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
Then become a politician/do something about it or you can keep whining, your choice.
1 Mr_Breast 2018-05-17
Appare3ntly you're not allowed to have an opinion on politics if you're hnot a politician.
Low IQ post my dude.
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
I also said do something about it which could be a lot of things besides becoming a politician. Low IQ post by you for not understanding the main point.
1 Mr_Breast 2018-05-17
Apparently you're not allowed to post opinions on the internet for the purpose of discussion at all, you could be "out there doing something".
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
Posting an opinion is different than whining. "Society is not doing all it can anymore. whaaaaa" That statement is just taking all the responsibility off of you, it's weak external locus of control whining. You are part of society and you can do something about it. Or you can sit on the outside and whine. Internal locus of control vs. external locus of control.
1 Mr_Breast 2018-05-17
Nobody here is whining then. If anything, you're projecting. There was no "whaaaa" anywhere to be found.
1 trevmon 2018-05-17
never use this excuse to censor
1 SophisticatedDalek 2018-05-17
The US subsidizes having children out of wedlock, divorce, and staying in abusive relationships with responsible men's money.
1 trevmon 2018-05-17
law is good but can be improved
1 SoonelyDoodely 2018-05-17
Bruh look at the imigration, refugee data in some of EU countries.. It's the exact opposite of what you're saying. Governments are doing the wrong things repeatedly pushed by the illusion of morality. Same goes with blatantly favoring women in every social aspect ever.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-17
No, I don't trust you. Anytime anyone ends their sentence with "trust me", I'm reaching for a gun.
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
Well you can't be humiliated if you're going after a goal because you're too focused on your goal to become humiliated.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-17
Are you sure we're still talking about romantic dejection?
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
No, a women isn't a goal, a goal is something you strive for that makes you successful in another way than romantically.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-17
So you're advocating giving up?
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
Give up on women if it's not working, work towards a different goal.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-17
1 GloryMountain 2018-05-17
Just jerk of to clear your head if you need to. Contrary to nofaps opinion, if you are obsessed with sex and having sexual thoughts is bothering you, just masturbate. You need to be able to focus on a mission.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-17
You LARPer or something? Who are you LARPing, some kind of redpiller?
Who says anything about just sex?
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-17
I just want the rope tbh. I also want to reproduce, even though I'm not entitled to it. I want to know what it feels like to hold another girl's hand, to cuddle with her, for us to love each other. Why does life have to be so cruel?
1 1122334wy 2018-05-17
high iq post
1 FireAlarm911 2018-05-17
I agree somewhat. This is why women get pissed if they reject you then they see you with another woman of equal or greater attractiveness. They HATE you for being ugly and they want you to suffer.
1 jesuz 2018-05-17
Sounds more like the fact that someone they rejected as 'beneath' them ended up with someone at their level may have threatened their self image.
1 FireAlarm911 2018-05-17
True. Never thought about it like that
1 not_good_looking 2018-05-17
This. Women will hate me even if I manage to walk in the street with a beautiful woman. They will say nasty things like “is she an escort?” Or “oh wow, you have a gf? Lol”. Even if I somehow get out of inceldom and get a girlfriend, none of the girls will believe me and will still be very suspicious of me. One time this girl thought that the girl I was walking to was my girlfriend and so I joked aprund and said “she’s my first” and the girl completed my sentence for me “and the last”.
1 Princenimij 2018-05-17
"....they see you with another woman of equal or greater attractiveness." This sounds VERY familiar. Most incels aren't ugly below average, they just haven't found the right girl or enough confidence to sustain a relationship with someone.
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-17
Give us euthanasia. We clearly don't belong
1 Orig_analUse_rname 2018-05-17
You belong. Women just shouldn't be allowed to choose. It's arbitrary and sets civilization back.
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-17
no thanks, just kill me, let the world be
1 empatheticapathetic 2018-05-17
Don’t let this one aspect ruin the rest of your life. It’s not great but it’s the best we got. Guys out there who are retarded, missing arms, plenty of shit worse than this.
Fuck escorts if you wanna (I do) and just do whatever else u wanna do.
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-17
I fuck hoes too lol, the last one i fucked gave me an std
now i rot and wait for it to kill me
1 empatheticapathetic 2018-05-17
Lol. I got an std a few years back. Got over it quick but antibiotics made me feel sick
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-17
fuck getting this checked, if it's harmless, so be it, if it ain't, bring it on
1 aldjfh 2018-05-17
Good perspective my dude
1 ImGoingHomeForThis 2018-05-17
The power of brainwashing ladies and gentlemen. Please get help.
1 escapetheinceldom 2018-05-17
Cuck.
1 ImGoingHomeForThis 2018-05-17
I’m crying
1 escapetheinceldom 2018-05-17
Good.
1 trevmon 2018-05-17
good
1 Orig_analUse_rname 2018-05-17
Explain to me how that's brainwashed? It's literally a Harvard study.
1 ImGoingHomeForThis 2018-05-17
Really? A Harvard study determined that women are evil? Please link it. The brainwashing is in the extreme group polarization among incels causing this ridiculous hatred for everyone with a vagina and everyone else without one for that matter because you can’t find holes to stick your dicks in.
1 Ralph-Hinkley 2018-05-17
They all post greatly upvoted pictures of attractive males though, does that say anything?
1 Voltage917 2018-05-17
It says waaaaaay more than they think it does..
1 Inceloid 2018-05-17
Such ER fuel, femoids are a plague
1 anonmymouse 2018-05-17
I see what you're saying, but what I don't get is why you think this is a bad thing (other than the fact that you're just concerned about your own dick and nothing else)
Selectivity in mating is present in pretty much every species, evolutionary and biological instincts make us all want to propagate our species well, to be better, stronger, smarter.. Would you prefer that our species is only propagated by low-tier genetic having individuals until we eventually retard and weaken ourselves out of existence? We're actually the only species that cares enough to bother to keep low, or no value individuals alive and integrated into our society. You know what happens when a deformed, sick, or retarded animal is born out in the wild? The parents eat it, or abandon it to die. When human babies are born with deformities or horrible conditions the parents continue to love it and raise it and we waste tons of time and medical resources just to keep them alive. Human empathy (specifically female empathy - mother's love) is the only reason that some people even get to exist. If you were any other species, it would actually be far worse.
1 SkinnyPoorAndIncel 2018-05-17
High IQ comment tbh
1 sleepingforever1 2018-05-17
We're better off not existing, what you describe as empathy I see as cruelty.
1 Orig_analUse_rname 2018-05-17
So, when you're talking about selectivity as it relates to something like the genetic makeup of, let's say, a small population. They are not selecting for the genes that are beneficial. For example, let's say foids select for a strong Chad. Guess what? Physical strength is not that genetically advantageous anymore because we have the invention of the forklift. In other words their selections are archaic. That's why the way they select is not beneficial
1 anonmymouse 2018-05-17
Stephen Hawking has a wife and 3 children..
women are out there reproducing with the most intelligent males as well.. you're just not one of them
1 Orig_analUse_rname 2018-05-17
You're fuckin delusional if you think that girls are attracted to intellect. I don't even need to debate the specificities of Hawkings family. At best he's an outlier.
1 anonmymouse 2018-05-17
You're fucking delusional.
Intelligent women are attracted to intellect. He was probably the legit most unattractive man in existence, by your reasoning, he should have been incel, except he wasn't.
ALL of the nobel prize winners for last year in Physics (none of whom are attractive) have wives and children. Except the objectively least attractive one, Kip Throne, who actually had 2 wives.
Are they "outliers" as well? How many outliers do we have here?
The reality is that they are all high value men and there were women who saw that and paired with them.
1 bitterasianvirgin 2018-05-17
In the absence of migration and with constant environment, genetic selection would reduce the average IQ of the US population by about .8 points per generation.
What were you saying?
1 anonmymouse 2018-05-17
Wow this is the lowest IQ comment in this entire thread. That has nothing to do with whether or not women are attracted to intelligence, for one.
This is not reality, this is describing a completely unusual situation for humans. We are a species that is constantly migrating... What is being described here is basically a whole bunch of inbreeding. No shit that would lower intelligence.
so.. next?
1 bitterasianvirgin 2018-05-17
LOL @ thinking migration in this study has any relation to inbreeding. It's about controlling for the current US populations' trends without any major changes in demographics.
The full article contains more juicy blackpills such as:
Roastie getting toasty because your "female empathy" is getting exposed as pure female idiocy and selfishness lmao
1 anonmymouse 2018-05-17
You're diverting farther from the original topic to try to promote your own viewpoint of "wimmenz are evil" but the reality is still that if you were born any other species you wouldn't have to deal with being incel because your mother wouldn't have wasted the time and effort raising you. She would have instinctively known you were low value the moment you flopped out and would have done something about it.
1 bitterasianvirgin 2018-05-17
I like how you responded directly to my previous post but are now trying to deflect the topic since you have no response to it anymore. Classic. The entire topic of this thread is females and genetic selection.
The only way a female could know if their incel son was a genetic failure at birth is if they came out completely deformed which doesn't apply to most incels. Your point here is just completely nonsensical since you've been driven into toasty roastie rage.
1 anonmymouse 2018-05-17
Nah, women can just biologically sense a low value male.
1 bitterasianvirgin 2018-05-17
then I assume you're childfree, nothing good can come from the womb of a female who is so low-value she has nothing to do besides attain lightyears of ledditor karma. if you have a child lol, I can imagine the panic in your mind wondering if they're going to turn out incels every year they grow up
1 anonmymouse 2018-05-17
I have a daughter, so no I don't have to worry about inceldom at all.
1 bitterasianvirgin 2018-05-17
You think you're completely free from the incel problem but you don't realize that your daughter or granddaughter will produce incels down the line. You can't escape genetic karma, I guess you'll teach your daughter to kill her low-value sons if it comes to that.
1 asdlkjpoiqwer0981234 2018-05-17
OK you've completely fucking lost it lol. You guys are supposed to be the intelligent and emotionally stable bunch too, huh? He makes one reasonable counterpoint and that's all it takes for you to throw an explosive temper tantrum talking about "ur lucky ur human cuz theyd sense u need to be killed in the womb!"
1 anonmymouse 2018-05-17
Not in the womb, silly.. after birth.. can't you read?
1 asdlkjpoiqwer0981234 2018-05-17
I missed the "completely" before deformed in his initial post but your point is still stupid. It's not nearly as easy to differentiate good from bad before any actual growth from the offspring. Most babies and kids are good looking with the exception of the extremely deformed.
1 not_good_looking 2018-05-17
Stop deflecting, he proved you wrong. Women don’t select for good traits, they select for bad ones.
1 not_good_looking 2018-05-17
You are a hypocrite, just up there you called for all “physically inferior” males to be wiped out.
1 SoonelyDoodely 2018-05-17
Teehee just be one of the most famous people in the history of humanity volcel til you aren't 🙈
1 not_good_looking 2018-05-17
You are a hypocrite, just up there you called for all “inferior” males to be wiped out.
1 bitterasianvirgin 2018-05-17
extremely short-sighted comment as expected from a femoid.
women and their primitive brains don't select for anything except appearance. the next tesla will never pass on his genes because women haven't evolved past selecting for the caveman who has a bigger jawline and can thus beat up the other cavemen.
moreover if females actually had empathy then the subhuman females would realize that they shouldn't reproduce either, but every woman is told "U GO GIRL" and "you're entitled to love" regardless if they're genuinely mentally retarded and physically deformed, thus creating the next wave of incels.
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-17
that's so key, if we were really trying to select properly, then the subhuman foids wouldn't reproduce either
1 uezo 2018-05-17
I don't think so. Anybody who's a famous scientist would have an easier time even if he's ugly as sin as a betabux provider.
We're just trash and genetically inferior in our looks. We're not that smart either so we're screwed.
1 not_good_looking 2018-05-17
Nope. Go to Silicon Valley sometime, you will see his point.
1 Hopecel 2018-05-17
The problem is that ugly women still reproduce and pass on their genes.
1 anonmymouse 2018-05-17
That's men's fault really.. learn to be more selective guys!
1 TopKekketus 2018-05-17
We can't afford to be more selective, we already outnumber you cunts 107:100 until we hit our 50's. The only men that can afford to be selective are giga chads.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-17
The fact that we decide our partners based on genetics is in itself outdated. We as a species already made natural selection obsolete by changing our environment to accommodate us in virtually every part of the world.
The last thing we have is sexual selection, which in itself is not needed because secondary sex characteristics do nothing for your survival; a tall man is actually at more of a risk given that we have firearms.
In the future, either we will figure out how to perform genetic engineering to make all of us conventionally attractive, or we will all transition to bionics, become cyborgs and get rid of our need to have sexual relations.
1 anonmymouse 2018-05-17
Just because something is obsolete doesn't mean it's not still biologically there.. we're still attracted to what nature intended us to be. We've created a world in which low value individuals can still survive.. but we still ultimately want our offspring to be high value
1 JohnnyDildonics 2018-05-17
would you apply this philosophy of social Darwinism to society at large? If competition for mates is what it is, then why are so many women ALSO pushing for socialist policies that reduce competition and enable less talented, less superior competitors to survive? Unless you're a hardcore Trad Thot that believes in laissez-faire free market economies, low taxes and small gov't...
it is amazing to see how you're only okay with brutal competition in JUST the mating aspect of society, but nowhere else.
1 anonmymouse 2018-05-17
I have no idea what you're referring to specifically, you could not have been more vague.. the job market? Government? Hiring more unqualified women and poc? Keep in mind that I'm not a feminist in any sense of the word so if you're trying to apply me to feminist ideologies you're barking up the wrooong tree.
1 AgileCauliflower 2018-05-17
Or option 3, once we can emulate a human brain and know exactly how the brain works, we can change the brain to be attracted to everyone and not have standards
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-17
This too.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-17
Honestly I only answered because I wished that my parents decided to kill me so that I didn't have to live a life like this. Why was I born? I'm living but I'm not living.
1 anonmymouse 2018-05-17
Maybe the animal world is less cruel after all :/
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-17
Can you kill me and bury the body? I don't want to live anymore.
1 anonmymouse 2018-05-17
:(
1 not_good_looking 2018-05-17
^ this is proof that women’s mentality will have kept us living in the Stone Age killing each other with clubs and sticks because someone is 1% more inferior than another.
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-17
So basically ugly people should shut up and deal with it.
Grrreat.
1 anonmymouse 2018-05-17
Sorry. I thought we dealt in reality here..
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-17
And reality sucks for people on the lower end of attractiveness.
1 trevmon 2018-05-17
yep also why other guys bully us, it's subconscious but they want us out of the genepool
1 endmysuffering1 2018-05-17
its over
1 DixonCheese 2018-05-17
This is just silly.
Women want average and below average men to simply fulfill their role as the eager, good natured eunuchs that they're supposed to be, in exchange they'll hide their ever increasing contempt for us.
1 MPaulina 2018-05-17
Wait, this subreddit isn't satire?
1 cockmasterzzzzz 2018-05-17
low IQ
1 finnanut27 2018-05-17
Every fucking time
1 babuchat1805 2018-05-17
I kinda think that seeing all women as evil won't get you any of them
1 AgileCauliflower 2018-05-17
I'm not gonna get women anyway even if I didn't think they were evil, so might as well think they're evil.
1 mikepencetheincel 2018-05-17
Most people have an automatic disgust when seeing ugly people in sexual(or even pseudo-sexual relationships like with sexbots) since it reduces the genetic quality of society.
1 ibtem 2018-05-17
That's simplistic dumb logic you used there. The reality is that women prefer incels to shut up and remain virgin because they want society to keep working for free for them and they dont want to face the fact that their pickiness is making life worse for everybody by reducing the motivation of men to work. They dont care that it's unfair, they just want the gravy train to keep coming so their only choice is to play the issue down and act like it's just worthless losers who need to clean up their act and that it's all their personal fault. They dont want to admit the hard truth that women being subjects to men is the way that nature intended us to work and how the bible intended us to live. They dont want to admit that their freedom is ruining society, literally. They dont and cant admit that it isn't even working for their own lives, it isn't making them any happier. It's a hard pill for anybody to swallow and women cant do it: that it would be best for them to be reigned by man, on all levels.
1 Ralph-Hinkley 2018-05-17
Yea, you lost me there.
1 rovad_ 2018-05-17
That's why roping is the worst action you take, its literally submitting in the ultimate form, letting them win by giving them the only thing you have...your life
1 Orig_analUse_rname 2018-05-17
And thats why I DON'T advocate for suicide. Taking action is always bettER than that.
1 rovad_ 2018-05-17
Lol thats throwing your life away all the same
1 Build_that_Bear 2018-05-17
Wow. Just wow if any of you actually believe this bullshit.
Guess what? No one cares about you unless they know you. Random women don't waste their energy wishing you were dead. You aren't that important.
But if you thought you weren't a deeply hated and persecuted minority then you'd have to accept that you don't matter to people unless you make an effort. And effort is what most of you want to avoid at all costs.
1 Rhodri_Kraakman 2018-05-17
>random women don’t waste energy woshing you were dead.
“what is inceltears?”
1 GuyFromDaStore 2018-05-17
Its even worse than you think. Women don't want you to die, they forget about you 5 minutes after encountering you. They don't even waste any brain cells processing any memory of you.
1 iamhopeless256 2018-05-17
Women want all non Chad's dead
1 accdg-to-Aristotle 2018-05-17
No. The reason why women have an automatic in-group bias is because they collectively experience oppression from a dominantly male society. They all have personal experiences of gender-based oppression, so they are less likely to be distrustful of women.
1 Orig_analUse_rname 2018-05-17
That doesn't make any sense. Why wouldn't oppressed men have such a bias as well? Why would women who weren't oppressed have an in group bias? Would oppression really count for 100% in group preference?
1 silvyrphoenix 2018-05-17
this is just....so much dumb. so much dumb it hurts. it baffles me not only that people think like this, but that people would actually put this forward as a thing.
so dumb
1 TheMedsPeds 2018-05-17
Lol I can’t believe people this insane exist.
1 ImGoingHomeForThis 2018-05-17
I’m crying
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-17
So you're advocating giving up?
1 literallyarealperson 2018-05-17
I know too many dudes that are either pumping and dumping, absolutely unwilling to commit to women because they do not respect them at all, or absolutely avoiding romantic relationships as much as possible. When I was younger it was different, but things are definitely changing.