Normies: "You have to talk to women to get a girlfriend." Also normies: "Don't talk to women with the intention of getting a girlfriend, that's creepy."

181  2018-05-16 by GymcellingisCope1

Wat do? Pls help.

332 comments

Play LDAR Scrolls

I only play turn-based strategy games.

Pokemon Black and Pill

Advance Wars I.n.c.e.l Rising.

Command and Coper

Red Alert: Incel's Revenge.

Civilization 4: Beyond the Rope

Total war: Rope II

Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 Cel

Do you seriously still play civ 4? We should play together sometimes

Civilization 5: Chads and Incels

Civ 5>civ4

Age of Ropes II

Incelization wins

I approve of this message.

Megaman Blackpill Network

Ropenite.

Elder Sign? Anybody here play boardgames?

My name's actually spelled Board_Gaming with a capital B and G.

Like the Notorious B.I.G.

fucking hell you really are on the spectrum

Play Warhammer 40k tabletop as the LDAR

have you tried showering?

Yeah just showered in the morning before I left for work.

Only once? There's your problem.

I knew it.

Femoids don't want us talking to females

It's over. Give up like me.

How about talking to women with the intention of being their friend, and genuinely wanting to get to know them as people?

A alot of us tried that, but the female demonic humanoids then proceeded to call the police on us for inducing trauma on them with out faces

Hey, TheBottomeOnePercent, just a quick heads-up:
alot is actually spelled a lot. You can remember it by it is one lot, 'a lot'.
Have a nice day!

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will u be my girlfriend?

Ok

Being short (5'5") with a babyface, girls who were around my age (this happened when I was around 18, I'm 21 now) didn't even see me as a man but as a child. I was automatically friendzoned. This allowed me to easily become friends with women, and I had a lot of female friends before I got blackpilled and realized their friendships were useless.

When women get in a group and talk about guys, they are absolutely cruel. They will criticize virtually everything about that guy; His nose, jawline, race sometimes, and height the most. Two different girls in one sitting shared a story about their supposed Tinder date who they ended up being grossed out at just because they were the same height as them, and mind you, they said this knowing that I'm just as tall as they are.

The only time they would want to hang out with me is if I was taking them somewhere and paying for it. Or if they wanted someone to listen to their stupid problems, like the drama they had with this other girl, or the fight they had with their boyfriend or their rant about fuccbois.

I didn't get much benefit from their friendship in exchange. They wouldn't do favours for me back, didn't go to my birthdays, didn't help me when I was in need of aid. When I opened up to one of them that I was having issues finding a girl to date she just said use Tinder and didn't offer to Wing-woman me. None of them invited me to any parties they went to or when they hanged out of a club, so no having female friends didn't increase my social status. When I asked one of them why, she said, "I wouldn't want to me seen in a party with you, but let's hang out at Froyos sometime! (Of course I'd be paying for that)"

The straw that broke my back was when I sat again with my "female friends" in a group, and they all ultimately agreed that guys shorter than them are little boys who really shouldn't bother trying. I didn't argue with them, but if that's what my own "Friends" really think about me, then are they really my friends?

At that point it didn't even feel like a friendship with them anymore. It felt like I was their tool, ATM and emotional tampon. AND the worst part of it all is that they didn't respect me either.

I slowly started talking with them less and less. A few tried texting me trying to repair our "FriendshipTM", and that they really enjoyed hanging out with me because I had a "Great PersonalityTM". I told them that nothing's wrong but I didn't hang out with any of them after that. I stopped saying hi to them on campus (they notice this, some asked me about it, I didn't respond).

Once they were out of my life I started to feel better about myself, as if I removed a parasite from my body. Long before I even knew what inceldom was, it was women that taught me that all they care about is looks, and not personality.

The best lesson they taught me was to have to self-respect and not befriend anybody that does not respect me.

Good for you cuz. Don let no nasty selfish female run up on you and dis you like dat. u ma boi for ditchin these trifilin as hoes ya hear?

Brutal blackpill

The straw that broke my back was when I sat again with my "female friends" in a group, and they all ultimately agreed that guys shorter than them are little boys who really shouldn't bother trying. I didn't argue with them, but if that's what my own "Friends" really think about me, then are they really my friends?

AWALT

Sounds like you had a few that weren't actually your friends. Then you got so sour about it the one's that actually cared for you got pushed away and ignored. The only way to guarantee no girl will ever be with you or like you is to shut them out completely.

I didn't find any that actually cared for me, dead srs.

All femoids are like this. I used to get treated like a tampon by these so called friends who would hit me up when they need something.

I swear I saw this comment yesterday or two days ago. Did you repost this?

ya.

Knew it. Still a good post. Kinda important to repeat it for sure.

it's pretty much my life story too.

Jesus Christ, this is literally the most soul crushing blackpill I have ever read. I would like to see one normie read this and accuse you of still having a bad personality or whatever.

It's a shitty story for sure.

But when you get knocked down, you gotta get back up again.

How many times can you possibly live through that, though? Is it really worth living a shitty life?

Only you can answer that.

But if you, me, Chad, my boss and a few guys from here went out for some beers after work (my boss paying) and a woman looked at us and generalized us a bunch of men all the same, all as bad as each other in all the same ways, that would be completely wrong yeah?

One of the biggest problems with incel doctrine is it's based on a flawed assumption that women aren't individuals, they are practically identical, and the way the last 100 of them you've encountered acted and thought is exactly the same as how all of the others out there will act and think.

One of the biggest problems with incel doctrine is it's based on a flawed assumption that women aren't individuals, they are practically identical, and the way the last 100 of them you've encountered acted and thought is exactly the same as how all of the others out there will act and think.

Obviously women are individuals, but like all individuals, it's possible to recognize a larger trend in the group. That's why stuff like statistics works. I forget when it was posted, but a while back there was a meme about something like "Hey, woman here, just to let you know not all women want the same guy!" and then showed a bunch of pictures of really attractive dudes of different races, some were "nerdy looking," but were still very conventionally attractive looking, etc.

I think it's a fair assumption to say that something like 99% of the population would prefer a nice slice of chocolate cake over a piece of durian fruit. Sometimes, people can be pretty uniform in their preferences. Obviously it depends, but I believe that this is the case for a lot of characteristics in dating. And a incels exhibit a lot of these characteristics that women dislike almost unanimously.

I think I'm fairly accurate in the following. Almost all women would prefer a taller guy over someone who is 5'2." Fortunately, I was blessed to be average height, but I feel really bad for guys who are very short and completely ignored by women. Almost all (younger) women prefer a guy with a full head of hair. I think you would be very hard pressed to find a 20 year old woman who finds bald guys more attractive than guys with a head of hair. And guess what? In their youth women have so many options, so why are they going to give an chance to a guy they don't find attractive when they can easily get with a more attractive guy? If you offered 100 Americans the option of eating an orange or eating balut, I think it would be obvious what 99 of those 100 would chose.

If her vagina isn't available I literally have no interest in whatever garbage comes out of her mouth. Women are like toilets, their only use is dropping a load in and getting plunged.

you deserve to be alone forever if that's what you think

Sure it's not my face?

Forgot to add to my toilet analogy... women are full of shit.

Face is irrelevant if you talk and think like that

Lol it has been many times proven that you can be a misogynist hitler loving racist nazi and still drown in pussy if you're attractive enough.

Yes, and thats the point. A lot of incels dont want to be in a relationship. They just want to be abusive assholes to women and still get laid. Fuck those guys.

Lol, just no, you're so dumb that I won't even bother.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/8fjhm8/triggered_brigaders_logic_is_hilarious/?utm_source=reddit-android ... ... ... Yeah i must be dumb. But on the other hand, you probably dont understand rhe difference between fantasy and real experiences, still; cognitive dissonance at its finest.

Kek.

Why would anyone want to be friends with femoid? They are all boring and you'd just have to listen about how she fucks with Chad every night.

All? Literally none of my girl friends talk about sex like that. They talk about cool ideas, interesting places, new tech, good food, politics... Have you really talked to enough girls?

Eh, there's decent women out there. They're rarer than men in my experience, though.

Becoming someone's friend takes time. Several months, maybe. And what if after all that time you find out you're not romantically compatible? How many women can you possibly screen that way per year. Two, three, maybe four? "Become their friend and see where things go from there" is the single worst romantic advice I know and the main reason why so many young guys are alone.

Well if you think of friendship as a "screening process" for relationships, then your intention is clearly not friendship. The main reason many young guys are alone is that they don't know how to naturally be around women, and this can be solved by simply being good friends with women. Most guys I've developed feelings for and pursued were guys who thought the same things I thought were cool and liked talking about them with me.

Well if you think of friendship as a "screening process" for relationships, then your intention is clearly not friendship.

Well...yea...that's exactly what I'm saying 0o
The point is that making friends and finding a potential partner are two separate processes. Friendships "advancing" to relationships does happen, sure, but it's often advised as the one and only way, which is nonsense. And it's especially bad advice for a lot of current young guys who were never taught how to express their natural, sexual side and in most cases, actually were taught to suppress it. So they will always act entirely platonic around women.

Could you be any dumber? Of course his intention isn't friendship. Why should a man pursue friendship if his intention is a relationship? You should get off this sub.

The main reason many young guys are alone is that they don't know how to naturally be around women, and this can be solved by simply being good friends with women.

I agree that this could be a good way to get comfortable around women but your initial comment read more as a suggestion on how to get dates/a girlfriend since clearly that's what the intention of most incels is.

Why haven't you answered my reply.

The main reason many young guys are alone is that they don't know how to naturally be around women, and this can be solved by simply being good friends with women.

Wrong, it's because they're unattractive.

I’ve dated guys who all my friends unanimously agreed were unattractive.

Handsome guys don't need to follow this bullshit.

So? Model chicks like Alexis Ren don’t have to pay for flight tickets. Beautiful people have life easier, thank you Captain Obvious. The rest of us have to work around that. 99% of the world has to try harder everyday, and you’re one of them.

Not in my reality, women have lots of advantages just for being women, being attractive is a plus for them.

Men have lots of advantages just for being men. Wouldn't you agree? Being attractive is a plus for anyone.

Sexually men have no advantage just for being men.

No I wouldn't agree. We make up the majority of workplace fatalities, homeless people, prison inmates, and rape victims. Yes, men in prison get raped more than women on the street. Go away.

Name me a single fucking advantage that a man has over a woman. There is no male privilege, only female privilege and good looking people privilege have. Get the fuck out of this sub you dumb whore. You are killing incels with your presence.

  1. Men don't have to change their name when they get married.
  2. If a man has sex and people know it, he's a stud. If a woman has sex and people know it, she's a slut.
  3. Men can be open about enjoying sex without people feeling automatically entitled to have sex with them.
  4. Men can be non-monogomous without people judging.
  5. Men are less likely to be harrassed on the street when walking to the supermarket.
  6. Men are less likely to be victims of domestic violence.
  7. Men outside of jail are less likely to be victims of rape.
  8. Men can stand in a crowded train and not worry about being groped.
  9. Men are not judged for keeping their body hair.
  10. Men can take their shirts off when they are feeling hot.

Need any more?

LMFAO.

Yes I’m sure none of these are as bad as not summoning up a girlfriend at the snap of your fingers.

So you would trade your life as a female in for my life as an incel?

Why? My point is that both sexes have their advantages and disadvantages. Welcome to Planet Earth. I just disproved your point that there are no benefits to being male.

Your whole lists consist of fucking memes. Like I’ve said before your presence is killing incels.

Which ones aren’t true? 1, 5, 6, 7 & 10 are facts. The rest are social norms.

  1. Men don't have to change their name when they get married.

Not a fact. Women don’t need to change their name when they get married.

  1. Men are less likely to be harrassed on the street when walking to the supermarket.

Do you refer to catcalling? I fail to see how this is a fact.

  1. Men are less likely to be victims of domestic violence.

Women in homosexual relationships suffer from domestic violence more often.

  1. Men outside of jail are less likely to be victims of rape.

The only thing you are right about.

  1. Men can take their shirts off when they are feeling hot.

So can women???

You really need to look up the definition of fact and privilege. I would think that you are a troll but you are just dumb.

Do you refer to catcalling? I fail to see how this is a fact.

65% of all women have experienced either being inappropriately touched on the street, followed, or forced to perform a sexual act.

source: http://www.stopstreetharassment.org/our-work/nationalstudy/

Women in homosexual relationships suffer from domestic violence more often.

Whether this is true doesn't matter since more women are in heterosexual relationships and more women are being physically abused than men.

So can women???

Society shuns the overt show of female nipples, if you haven't noticed.

The only thing you are right about.

No, but it's a pretty big thing, isn't it?

  1. Women aren't, either? What?

  2. Yeah, that's because it's actually a difficult task to have sex regularily with changing partners if you are a man. Furthermore, society shames men for being virgins for that exact reason, but female virgins aren't shamed. So yeah, men and women are dead even here.

  3. Yeah, and if they happen to not enjoy sex that much they'll get weird looks. See 2.

  4. See 2.

  5. Fair point.

  6. I remember seeing a statistic that said men commit more of the severely violent domestic abuse, while women do more "slightly violent" abuse. Maybe I can deliver that statistic when I'm home in a few hours.

  7. Fair point.

  8. That's the same thing as point 5. Which is a fair point, but no need to stretch it over 2.

  9. Uh what? If you can't grow a decent beard, you'll have to shave it. If you don't have shaved armpits, you will get comments too ime. Only about 5% of women prefer a natural bush down there. The only thing women have to shave that men don't is their legs. And I don't even want to start the discussion about whether it's harder to shave your face or your legs.

  10. No, men can't do that unless they're on a beach (at least in civilized countries like mine, maybe it's different in the US). In that case, women can do the same. Bikinis are a thing, y'know? Also, women can wear hot pants and dresses everywhere and men can't, if you really want to argue that bikinis are super bad.

Now compare those 2 points that are still valid to the laundry list of shit men are disadvantaged at that starts with custody court and ends with workplace deaths and homeless people.

Yeah, so that you can go pursue Chad and have his penis inside you twice a day while the guy who pursued friendship with you gets nothing.

I have never pursued Chad. I've only liked guys who had been my friends for years. They're not necessarily the most attractive guys out there and they definitely all under 5'6" but they're what I wanted. Because I knew they already cared about me and treated me well as a friend.

unicorn, here. Just be my platonic friend for years and then I'll settle for you.

That behavior will result in success maybe 1/10 times at best. For incels it's much lower.

brb befriending 100 females so that one might date in a few years from now.

This is a good way to get a friend, but that's where is ends.

There's a difference between the two.

Talk to women as if they are ordinary people. Learn to socialise with them without any intent. Don't go sharking, because that's not a good look.

Put it this way: obviously gay guy says hi as he passes. That's fine. Obviously gay guy runs across the street to stand in front of you looking all keen and saying hi? Less fine, because it's unwanted sexual attention. Spot the difference?

Talk to women as if they are ordinary people.

I never got this line. I what world do you live in where people treat women and talk to them 100% the same way they talk to men? Considering how men talk to each other, in most cased that approach will ironically get you labelled a horrible misogynist.

I talk to everyone the same. It just requires manners.

I talk to everyone the same.

You'd be the only one in the world to do that.

I'd offer for you to come and find out, but I suspect you're the other side of an ocean

Like a sex thing?

I can't do sex. It's probably why I treat everyone the same.

Then what are you good for?

Well, that kind of shows exactly how you view women- only for sex.

If you don't think there is any other use, then there's little point in talking to you at all.

Yes that's exactly what it means.

Why do you guys like to cry and play the victim so much?

Because women are more than just animated sex toys.

Is it playing the victim to want to be seen as a human being rather than just a collection of holes for you to pleasure yourself in?

I'm so tocuhed.

I'm sure you would be so upset if kept as a milk cow, wanked for your sperm only, and thought of as brain dead.

Oh. You already know how that feels, except you do your own wanking.

I'm sure you would be so upset if kept as a milk cow, wanked for your sperm only, and thought of as brain dead.

Yep, that's the life all modern women have to go through.

ROFL are you legitimately retarded?

You're the one viewing them as a set of holes only to be used for fucking, not me.

I didn't realize I was oppressing women by commenting on the internet. Women must be incredibly fragile.

I made the comment based on how you commented. I never even mentioned oppression, just use.

So what's your point then?

My point is that women are human beings, just like you are a human being. They are not sex toys just to be fucked.

My point is stop getting so buttmad over comments you read on the internet. See this is how I can tell you don't ever ghet laid.

I had a full and satisfying sex life up till my illness made it impossible. A good boning would leave me in agony.

I'm not mad. I'm currently in too much pain to actually really care, and I'm using these conversations as a distraction technique from the pain.

I bet it doesn't hurt as much as you think it does.

I bet you it fucking does, to the point where I have been prescribed a painkiller that is one step down from morphine, and my current painkillers are making it barely tolerable and I'm considering a trip to hospital to see if I can get morphine.

Not that you fucking care anyway.

Lol if you're in good enough of shape to come here and conversate with us then you've really got nothing to complain about. You don't know real fucking pain, you only know how to whine and beg for attention.

Oh, well, excuse me for being able to sit on a sofa and type, since I can pretty much function on my painkillers because I've used them for so long, because I'm resisting the morphine because it's fucking awful stuff to have to take regularly.

You have absolutely no fucking idea what sort of pain I'm in right now. If you want to feel it, may I suggest mincing one of your testicles in a garlic press?

excuse me for being able to sit on a sofa and type

Sounds like you have a tough life.

Given that I can't do much else, it's not exactly wonderful.

Sit on the sofa, take painkillers, get frustrated because moving hurts, rinse and repeat.

"moving hurts", give me a fucking breask.

Do you even know what's wrong with me? No you don't.

So give it a rest. You know absolutely fuck all about what I go through

You know absolutely fuck all about what I go through

I know you sure as shit love to complain about how hard of a life you have when you don't really have that ahrd of a life at all.

I have an illness that is slowly gluing my insides together with scar tissue. As my organs and intestines move, it pulls on the scar tissue, which hurts, and can tear the scar tissue, which hurts even more, and then causes more scar tissue to form as well as all the other stuff that is continuing to form. I also have solid and fluid cysts in my abdominal cavity formed from scar tissue. At the moment it feels like one of the cysts is tearing, and I am considering going to hospital because I am in that much pain.

I can still fucking type because it helps if I am concentrating on something other than just the pain, even if it's talking to a complete fucking dilbert like you.

There is no cure. There is no treatment other than stronger and stronger painkillers. They can do nothing other than emergency surgery in life-threatening situations, like if the scar tissue completely cuts off part of my bowel, or restricts blood flow to my organs causing ischaemia and necrosis, that could lead to sepsis and death. It will kill me in the end, and it's not going to be a pleasant, pain-free death.

Happy now, or do you still think I'm making it all up? Check my post history. I have described it in more detail more than once.

At least you lived a normal functioning life up to this point, to where you were able to have functioning relationships and participate in society. Even now you're able to type and use your brain functionally, you still operate as a human decently enough. What you go through is NOTHING compared to what a lot of other people have to go through, so quit. Your. Bitching.

Fuck off. All the guys here can function enough to peck at a pissing keyboard, including you, you tiny-brained parasite on society. Go and fucking whine at them.

I noticed you're backtracking on the "Oh, but you've had a life". Yeah, because I went out and looked for it, not sat swiping a fucking screen, you complete and utter wankstain.

Look at that entitled spoiled brat babyraging at me for pointing out her BS.

What BS? You're the one with the narrow-minded opinion that no one can possibly have it worse than an incel, not even someone in constant, debilitating pain with a terminal illness.

Well, that makes you trash. Incels, and even cretins like yourself have life on easy mode compared to the disabled and ill.

Now fuck off back under your rock, cretin.

You forget you're in our space, whining ab out your non-problems expecting us to care. You fuck off back to your tear-soaked rock you diseased cunt.

Away and boil your head you cretin.

So how much time you think you've got left. ballpark?

No idea. Could be years, could be a week, could be months. Depends what the scar tissue does.

I shall await your comments about "the sooner the better" with the attention and care that such things deserve: ie none.

See, I have this pesky thing called empathy, which makes it hard to go down the conversational path you expect me tol. The one thing that makes it easier for me is knowing that I'm dealing with a terrible person on the other side, so yeah, fuck off and die.

Oh, you have so much empathy that you pooh-pooed my pain and negated my suffering because it didn't suit your narrative.

To sit here and function the way I am now, I have taken 1000mg paracetamol, 45mg codeine, 150mg tramadol, 500mg naproxen and 15mg buspirone. I'm still in pain.

See, I give a little, I tell you about my empathy and you still attack me. Fuck you then.

You said about your so-called empathy, despite not having shown any of it previously, then told me to fuck off and die. What were you expecting?

YOU're IN OUR SPACE FFS!

YOU'RE IN OUR SPACE FFS! It's like if you went to a caner subreddit and complained about your sprained ankle.

But my pain only came up late in the conversation because you had to interrogate about my lack of ability to fuck. Otherwise I would have said nothing.

interrogate about my lack of ability to fuck

That's no excuse. You're in our space.

It's an open sub on a public site. Get over it. You're the one badgering me here sweetie.

So you have at most a year left on this planet. Shucks.

Oh, I'm sure I put a plural on there.

Me personally I have about 60 years, give or take, so I'll be out there living my life experiencing the world for a long time, and I take good care of myself and eat my greens and have good genes, so yeah, I'll be doing pretty well myself. Existing in the world for many years. So yeah, it'll be smooth sailing for me. Sucks for you with your situation though.

And you could get run over by a bus tomorrow too.

Oh well.

Let's just agree that that would be a good thing for the both of us and call it a day.

Sure. It's 2am here, and I can't be bothered.

Fuck you cunt, don't talk to me that way. You just said you'd be happy if I got run over by a bus. Well I hope your death is a painful one.

I thought you wanted to quit, but no. Got to have the last, snide, word.

Are you dead yet?

you underestimate my degeneracy

Unlikely when it comes to you.

then milk me already you frick

Milk yourself. Don't be so fucking lazy.

give me milkies already mommy

Fuck off. I am not your "mommy" and nor do I lactate.

Infantilism is really not attractive to me at all.

say harsh things to me more mommy

baby needs milkies 🤰 🍼 👶

And they wonder why they're getting no pussy

Lol what other use women have? I can't think of one.

In that case- stay single. Please don't inflict yourself on any woman.

Too late I already did it a lot, will do it later on today.

Such a stupid "gotcha!" moment.

Thank you. It doesn't feel good to be approached just because a guy wants to fuck. It also makes us think you're acting like this around any other girl you meet. Might be selfish, but girls like to be treated special by a potential partner- right off the bat, without getting to know a girl, trying to get in her pants makes it seem like you're not interested in getting to know her at all.

Humor me this one. I made a friend (female) by going up to her in the cafeteria because she was always alone and I found her attractive. During that same conversation I found she was 5'10", and so utterly out of my league. I lost interest in dating her (I don't like impossible challenges) but I found her an agreeable person and now we've been good friends for a few months.

Am I a horrible bastard who only approaches girls because he wants to fuck? Because there is basically no reason to approach women you don't find attractive and put yourself at risk of getting branded a creep (thus utterly and decisively annihilating your entire damn life).

No, it doesn't make you horrible at all. I just think that a lot of people here seem to think the only way to get a girl is go straight in for it. Girls are massive overthinkers which you probably already know. I don't think approaching a girl because you're sexually or romantically interested is bad at all, but it should be understandable that it doesn't commonly just work like that and could easily backfire.

I'm not sure they get the idea though. One or two of them only see women as something to have sex with, not an actual living, breathing, feeling human being.

You treat everyone the same only if you have very severe autism

Or if you are brought up properly with good manners.

You're telling me you don't treat your father the same as the homeless guy who chases after people who don't give him change?

What kind of a monster are you?

Maybe try it before you shit all over it. It's a thing.

It's not how people behave at all, dipshit. Don't kid yourself. Have some self-awareness. If this was a subreddit dedicated to shitting on ugly men you'd be nowhere to be found. Ask yourself why that is.

I'd be nowhere to be found because I don't believe in shitting on people for how they look, but how they act. If you're trying to call me ugly, joke's on you. I'm tall, handsome, and get laid on the reg, fuckface. Just thought you could use some advice from a successful person.

....jesus christ you['re dumb. What I'm saying is that you wouldn't be in the subreddit sticking up for men the same way you're here sticking up for women. Treating the genders differently, that's the point I'm trying to make. Also nice "fuckface", wow, you really got me with that one.

If I saw someone on this sub making fun of people for being ugly, I would tell them to shut up, it's not helping. Make fun of them because they're misogynists. Your point doesn't hold up!

....first of all, no you wouldn't, second of all, there's plenty of subs like justneckbeardthings where people are constantly bagged on for their looks, and you paragons of empathy are nowhere to be found!

Maybe you are right, i dont think you should talk to anyone the way you talk.

I'm actually nicer than how most inceltears members behave.

You on this post: Someone: i cant do sex. You: so what are you good for.

Yeah. Nicer then most inceltear members. Sure.

Yeah. Nicer then most inceltear members. Sure.

this but unironically.

So, ... Yeah... Lack of selfawareness - check. Even if inceltears were that bad, you still are not nice at all it seems.

think the ultimate problem here and cause of all this misunderstanding is that you're a fucking retard.

Obviously. I dont see any misunderstanding here though.

I dont see any misunderstanding here though.

Case in point.

Sure. Please show me your superiour kindness and intelligence by explaining where the misunderstanding is.

Yeah. Nicer then most inceltear members. Sure.

He might just have no close friends. I talk to acquaintances the same regardless of gender, not at all the case with friends.

she’s a femoid so she’s just a cute tomboy instead of a creepy misogynist teehee

I talk women the same way I talk to men. If talk to men in a way that you can't speak to women without being labelled a misogynist, then you ARE a misogynist. Respect women even when they're not around. Good habit to get into if you want them to respect you back.

This is why you have no friends and spend your free time whining to everyone on this subreddit.

My best friend is a woman. I will be hanging out with her and a group of other friends later tonight. Projecting much? Have fun fapping in your mom's basement, loser.

And if somebody poked your woman friend's breast you'd react the same as if they poked your male friend's breast? Get real. How can anyone be so unaware of their own behavior?

Don't fucking poke anyone who doesn't want to be poked! Also, this conversation was about talking, not touching, but my point still stands.

Uh huh. But if someone insulted your woman friend, hit on her, made her feel uncomfortable in any way, you'd go full on protector mode. If not then you're different than literally every other man in the world.

Yeah, and I'd do the same for my dude friends. I stick up for my friends. Period. It just so happens that I have to do this for my female friends more often, because there are creeps at bars who won't leave them alone. But yeah, someone insults one of my bros? That person is getting told to fuck right the hell off.

Look, you can either take advice from a mentally healthy, successful person, or leave it, but at the end of the day I must be doing something right, whereas you're definitely doing something wrong.

It just so happens that I have to do this for my female friends more often

case in point.

Again... you're an incel, and I get laid. Your opinion is irrelevant. Have fun staying a virgin forever.

Lol not even a virgin. Time to report your ass though, no virgin shaming.

Oh no. Whatever will I do.

Whine and continue to respond to me in a last desperate attempt to get the last word in.

Lol a classic white Knight cuck.

Absolutely hilarious. Are your female friends incapable of looking after themselves?

But what if a woman hits on one of your friends and your friend doesn't really like that?

Yeah, I’m with the people who don’t see the difference. Response depends only on if the person poked is upset about it. Why wouldn’t you give a shit when your guy friends get poked?

Would you beat someone up if your guy friend got poked and tried to play it off like it wasn't a big deal, because he was nervous from the weird experience?

What are you, some kind of faggot?

No, but you incels all seem to be real obsessed with Chad's dick!

We like studying human behavior/ Fuck us for finding certain subjects interesting, huh?

If only someone would fuck you for something.

Virgin shaming is against the rules. I'm not a virgin btw so you're about to be banned for accomplishing nothing.

Fakecel detected

no.

You are obviously replying to Mr_Breast in a different manner to other users. Yet apparently you talk to everyone the same irl? Do you treat someone who dislikes you as nicely as your friends? Quit your bullshit.

Oh boy, you obviously never stepped foot in a gym. You wouldn't believe the shit some men say about women.

Somehow women respect those misogynists enough to spread their legs for them, though. I really wonder why.

Probably their amazing personalities

You know, those people actually have entertaining personalities. And I would agree that this is important in dating.

"Entertaining" doesn't mean you're a good person though. That's why "It's your personality" can be right (not in the sense most normies use it obviously), but "It's because you're misogynistic" is always wrong.

Yeah I can agree with it to some extent, ted Bundy was probably charming (attractive too)

Respect won't get your dick wet lol

It will, you know.

No it won't.

From personal experience, I beg to differ

It simply means to talk women without the intention or sole purpose of getting their number / asking them out. To not see each woman you're attracted to as a potential partner or mate, but rather as a person you genuinely want to get to know. It requires you to really be energized in getting to know a person, and to be happy generating that connection (regardless of whether it leads to more than just friends or not).

And, if you think the stuff you would talk to women about would label you a 'horrible misogynist,' maybe it's time to do some self-reflection and evaluate your emotional health.

You're just playing dumb here. There are lots of different ways to group 'ordinary people' beyond just male and female, and you already talk to different groups in different ways. Do you talk to a 60 year old the same way as a teenager? To a teacher or boss the same way as to a friend? Of course not, but you're still treating them all as people, where you're talking to them about x because you want/need to talk to them about x. That's very different from treating a woman like a sex object where you're talking to her about x because you figure that's the best way to get laid.

Like talking to a man when he’s a stranger you just met, not like talking to a guy who you met at misogyny camp. I’m honestly curious how your social conversations with guys tend to go for you to think this.

How OI know you don't talk to real men. ^

I get what you're saying, but I think that's much more confined to men you know. If you're talking to a stranger of a similar age it shouldn't matter too much if theyre a man or woman. Common courtesy and general social decency apply. Looking at a woman solely as a prospective mate, etc is kinda like talking to a dude with money you're trying to borrow. In either situation, they can feel that shit and it comes across as preditory and sneaky. If you're feeling as though your looks are holding you back from intimacy imagine how someone feels that is pursued solely for their looks. Both of you may feel that you have more to offer based on your character, intellect, humor, etc. Talking to a woman without a goal of physical intimacy allows for those better traits to show themselves and find connection that's more meaningful than looks alone.

Talk to women as if they are ordinary people. Learn to socialise with them without any intent. Don't go sharking, because that's not a good look.

So even if you do have an interest it them, you should talk to them like you don't and wait for some other guy to ask her out. Also you miss 100% of the shots you don't take :))

Put it this way: obviously gay guy says hi as he passes. That's fine. Obviously gay guy runs across the street to stand in front of you looking all keen and saying hi? Less fine, because it's unwanted sexual attention. Spot the difference?

Because apparently for women every romantic advance from a man is automatically unwanted. Retarded analogy.

You are being wilfully obtuse.

Flirt with her all you want but don't complain when you get ghosted

Good social skills won't get you a girl alone. You need looks, they are the minimum requirement for entry.

If you become a familiar face, then it's your personality that comes to the fore, so you need to social skills to get an "in" in the first place.

True but then you become a bestie if she doesn't want to shag you to begin with lol. Attraction begins with the eyes, then you move on to speech, fact.

And if you're a bestie, then she will want to see you happy and will try to fix you up with a bird.

I'm failing to see a downside...

This does not happen if you are unnatractive. You will be glossed over. ESPECIALLY if she's attractive. She has attractive friends, why would she consider you?

Because women want to fix their friends up with girlfriends, and by then they will know that you have a decent personality.

I feel like a stuck record.

So do I, this is very unlikely to happen for an ugly truecel. I'm considered average and only my sister has hooked me up. Whenever this opportunity arose in my circles, guess who got it? A white chadlite, minimum.

I'd make friends with the girls anyway. If nothing else, you might get a friend with benefits out of it.

Cool, let's hang out.

I'm sorry, I don't befriend wymyn, I just date them. Think of me as the girl who gets upset that guys just talk to them to get into their pants, but just the opposite lol.

Well, you're daft then. Girls make the best friends if you want to find a bird.

I just date them.

lmfao you're delusional, setting an ugly man up with a friend risks their social standing, there's no way in the 7 heavens or the 7 hells a woman is gonna risk her reputation to hook an ugly bastard up with someone.

Oh get off your high horse, or get out of that pit you've dug for yourself. Either way, get into the real world and stop being such an ass.

Horses gallop at around 44 kph (27 mph).

Its over for non-horsecels

I am in the fucking real world, dumbass, not some frilly feel goodsy fantasy land you cucks seem to all be in.

Talking to the outcasts was the surefire way to torpedo your life back in high-school, and that hold even for uni. Now imagine not only talking to the autistic nerds, but trying to hook one up! I barely get invited to parties, what makes you think anyone would put their social life on the line to help and ugly nigger get a girlfriend?

Have you considered that your face is not the issue here?

ur just wrong and stupid. The last thing a girl would do is set her unattractive guy friends with their girlfriends.

And you don't know a thing about women as a whole.

take the blackpill you fool. Women aren't that hard to understand. Theres a genetic filter, and it makes complete sense that the bottom 10% will not make the cut. You don't try to rationalize that poverty will get better for people in africa right? So why force a belief that everyone will find someone

I refuse to be a total pessimist even if you want to.

Why force a belief that incels will always be incels when only time will tell?

Except for all people who just straight up ask girls out.

Lots of things can change after that, but you're too focused on tinder stats.

Physical attraction isn't one of them. This isn't a Tinder stat, there was a study about this posted recently.

I read it.

My boyfriend of three years and I were friends for more than a year before we started going out. There was no "just straight up asking" about it... we took the time to get to know each other, hanging out at game night and getting to know each other's personalities . And in fact, when it was "asking" time - I walked up and asked him to leave with me.

This single template you all have for how relationships work just doesn't make sense.

This comment is true, they are entirely different things you go out and talk to women with the underlying possibility that you might get a date but at the same time you don't behave as if thats the case unless shes putting off strong vibes.

Your comment is absolutely true.

Thank you.

Normies: Talk to women as if they are ordinary people. Learn to socialise with them without any intent.

Also normies: Don't complain about the friendzone if you didn't make your intentions clear early on in the relationship.

I generally advocate making friends with girls you're not sexually attracted to for that very reason. If you do that, then you'll be a lot more natural in speaking with them rather than being tongue-tied with someone you fancy. Your personality then gets a chance to come to the fore with no ulterior motive.

Assuming people don't already do that?

And there's still an ulterior motive if you're using girls as practice to get a girlfriend, even more so.

You're making friends with women with the ulterior motive of getting a larger social circle, but also giving yourself some practice in socialising with the opposite sex. A friend can give you pointers and help you over any obstacles.

Maybe it's because I've never really had female friends but I find this hard to do. I'll eventually develop some sort of attraction to a woman with continued exposure. Sort of like the Walrus-Mermaid theory in HIMYM. It's hard to be friends with girls even if I don't find them sexually attractive. Maybe it's just me and I'm not looking in the right places but I feel that most people around me don't have the same interests and aren't open enough for me to share my interests and to have an "equal" conversation. I've met maybe one or two girls these past few years that I could really talk to and feel like I'm having a conversation with and they're not just talking at me and I'm not just talking at them.

The two female friends that I have I don't really have attraction to. i recognize that they're beautiful or whatever and I don't think that will happen again. I feel like any female friend will be a one sided relationship. And I don't mean me longing for them or vice versa, I mean either them or me putting in all of the work to maintain a conversation or friendship. Not to mention, I don't really want to be "friends" with anyone who I can't 100% be myself with all of my dark humor.

I can understand where you're coming from. You should be able to be yourself around your friends.

Have you looked to see if there are any groups or societies centred around your interest, because then you would have that thing in common with someone you meet there. It would certainly help open a few conversational avenues.

I've gotten some advice along those lines on IT and I will try to explore it but I have a lot of anxiety and don't like standing out. I'll break out into sweat if I walk into class late. I'm black and a lot of my interests, let's say they don't have much of a black population, and I don't really like sticking out. I know it won't matter to them or in the grand scheme of things but it wouldn't do well for my anxiety if I'm anxious in a meeting and breaking down in uncontrollable sweat because I'm thinking about how I stand out and then about the sweat.

I think the first thing you need to address would be your anxiety. Perhaps if you can get a friend to go along with you to start with, you will at least have some backup?

A good thought but no friends to really do that with. I only have one guy friend to hang out with at moment's notice and we don't really have the same interests.

You could ask if he'll go along with you just the first time so you don't feel so isolated as the new person. I'm sure he wouldn't mind doing that for you?

He wouldn't. I just don't like along people to do things that i don't think they're interested in. We both like video games but i never ask him to play because we don't play the same ones. I'll see if there's something that might interest him and i both. Thank your

No problem, and good luck :)

Don't complain about the friendzone at all.

“48 upvotes”

RIP men

It's OK. People have been downvoting it in the interim.

Nice way straight into orbiterville/friendzone.

Not necessarily.

Ive always and continue to do this. No woman has ever expressed romantic feelings or been interested in me.

Talk to women as if they are ordinary people. Learn to socialise with them without any intent.

Good way to get friends, but what next?

It means you now know how to talk to women and they're not going to be intimidating. You can also get tips from female friends on how best to approach other girls.

Just talk to them as you would anyone else. Hitting on them right away is not what you want to do if your looking for a relationship.

I have several female friends that I've talked to and treated exactly like men. Just being friendly with women doesn't guarantee that you'll land in a relationship. You also have to be attractive.

It won't, but you don't want to scare them off by acting creepy. From experience you want someone that shares your interests and values for a long term or life long relationship. I have been with my wife for 20 years and she is my best friend also. We started out just talking and the relationship grew from there.

There's not much of a guarantee on relationships anyway

Point is, it's a start. Treat women as equals, don't lust after every one you speak too, and hopefully one day you'll find one who likes you back.

What day will that be?

I grew up being friends with women. The fact that I got to know so many women and treat them as people for years and not one of them was interested in me romantically demonstrates that just being friends with women doesn't guarantee that one will like you.

Awww, sorry about that bud. You're right, it's no guarantee. Maybe do some work to figure out why you kept getting friend-zoned? People can sometimes be fine as friends but demonstrate a lot of behaviors that are huge dating turn-offs. I used to get friend-zoned a lot back in the day until I figured out how to carry myself in a way that made women see me as bf material.

And working out isn't a cope! You don't have to be buff, but taking care of yourself is a huge sign to women that you have self-respect, work ethic, etc.

(also, get off this sub, it's not doing you any favors. the ideas that get spread on here are just making it harder for all of you to get laid)

hope that helps!

I already gymcel

no woman gives a crap if you work out. I've seen so many reject the muscled ugly guy for the tall skinny cute guy.

Get the fuck of out this sub you utter moron. You are killing incels.

Lol

TBH Gymcelling I think it's pointless engaging with Normies in an attempt to argue the obvious. It's a stereotype in so many comedy movies and sitcoms that the sex-less guy hangs around women as a buddy listening to their problems and helping them choose clothes. If all that society didn't sink into klausdahaus' awareness I doubt any post from us will.

But then you will get "friendzoned", and people will tell you "But you have to make your intentions clear from the start!".

Which one is it?

This.

The Lost World by Conan Doyle - 1912

She sat with that proud, delicate profile of hers outlined against the red curtain. How beautiful she was! And yet how aloof! We had been friends, quite good friends; but never could I get beyond the same comradeship which I might have established with one of my fellow-reporters upon the Gazette,—perfectly frank, perfectly kindly, and perfectly unsexual. My instincts are all against a woman being too frank and at her ease with me. It is no compliment to a man. Where the real sex feeling begins, timidity and distrust are its companions, heritage from old wicked days when love and violence went often hand in hand. The bent head, the averted eye, the faltering voice, the wincing figure—these, and not the unshrinking gaze and frank reply, are the true signals of passion. Even in my short life I had learned as much as that—or had inherited it in that race memory which we call instinct.

His last name was just Doyle. Conan was his middle name.

corrections like this are why you do not have sex (sorry couldn't resist)

It's just always the opposite of what you're doing because it's impossible to imagine the world is just shit, it has to be your fault.

Shh, don't say it out loud. Their brains might explode from the cognitive dissonance.

Which one is it?

whichever one suits their bullshit at the same moment. It has always been like this. And when you force them in front of their own hypocrisy they immediately pull out their joker and proudly inform you that "no one is entitled to a relationship" and that "no wonder no woman wants you with your creepy attitude".

Mission accomplished!

I always treated everyone the same, even people I was romantically interested in. Which is why they were never aware of my feelings.

What they are trying yo say is that if you are ugly, you must expect that a female that is benevolent enough will choose as your betabux when you are 30, provided that you get rich enough to override your uglyness

Normies literally can be themselves. They say shit like this because it actually is weird to creep on a girl. It's similar to how women say obviously wrong things about how relationships work... they never have to think about it to that level. Normal people don't.

The reason incels are seen as abnormal is just that it's abnormal to not partner up in college. We are the leftovers. For guys operating within a normal social circle (read: access to women who don't have to use Tinder), Normal Guy Game actually works.

If you are single in your 20s though you are then competing with Chads and are gonna get smoked. That is the incel's real problem.

Maybe stop going for the girls "Chad" goes for and you'll have better luck.

Do people actually believe in the "nerdy girls don't go for Chad" meme?

Reality isn't a meme, dude.

I'd reconsider that, because it seems like you've been getting memed your whole life.

Do you really believe that "chads" will hook up with any girl?

Of course not. Women who can't get Chad usually just stay celibate with very occasional bouts of sex with a Chad who's having an off night. Of course they'll never touch a beta no matter how many years they go without.

how do you tell "chad" girls from "incel-friendly" girls klausdahaus?

Nerdy and alternative girls only move in exclusive circles, is not an easy task to get close after high school

Where is the pronoun bot when we need it?

Stop talking about women as if they are objects with a sticker that you can read to decide if she is suitable or not.

How does swallowing your own medicide feels like?

What prevents incels from having a social circle?

Being ugly led me to be ostracized during my early years which led me do have under developed social skills which prevent me to have a social circle and the cycle continues. No kid wants to associate themselves with the ugly losers.

And I wasnt the only one, all the pariahs were the ugliest ones.

I DON'T TALK TO WOMEN. FRANKLY SPEAKING WOMEN IN COLLEGE ALSO DON'T WANT TO TALK TO ME

ON RARE OCCASIONS THE GIRLS WOULD ASK ME ABOUT ASSIGNMENTS/TOPICS DISCUSSED IN CLASS/COMING EXAMINATIONS I KEEP THE TALK STRICTLY RESTRICTED TO THE ABOVE TOPICS .IF THEY EVEN BRING UP ANY TOPICS OTHER THAN THE ABOVE I HAVE TWO STOCK REPLIES DEPENDING ON THE PLACE OF DISCUSSION

1)Inside the classroom :"LETS FOCUS ON THE CLASS"

2)Outside classroom "I HAVE WORK I GOTTA GO".

IF I need to know any thing about doubts in class,assignment I always ask the concerned teacher

IN THIS ERA OF #METOO EVEN TALKING TO GIRLS IS A RISK.

This. Women for the most part only wanted to talk to me to help them in their assignments. After that they ghosted me srs.

I agree

Lol are you serious?

What part of my post did you find a joke?

THIS IS PRACTICAL ADVICE

NO NEED FOR ANY UNNECESSARY CONFRONTATION WITH WOMEN.

You don't have to do anything, it'll just happen!

years later

"Wow did you really expect wymyns to fall onto your lap?"

R O P E

If you talk to lots of women, you will sooner or later meet someone who likes the way you make them feel.

But if you go around treating every single woman you talk to as introducing yourself as a potential boyfriend, THAT is weird and off, don't do that.

It's a bit subtle, but you have to master subtleties like this ;-)

But if you go around treating every single woman you talk to as introducing yourself as a potential boyfriend

I don't do that. I have never done that. I talk to girls the same way I talk to guys.

Cool, you're well on your way to having things work out for you.

tell that to them

There's a story on there called Escaping FA, every incel should read it!

Not true.

talking to women like men is just so that you're comfortable with them.

to get women you need game

you need to learn how to flirt

basic social skills have you talk about mundane things with ease.

women enjoy talking with friends so you need to add extra flair to get her to like you

make a joke, smile, have good body language, and be confident

no NOT say "uh", stutter, crack your voice, panic, or anything like that

it will RUIN your appearance to her and she'll friendzone you if you didn't creep her out

if you are confident, calm, and funny/witty she will enjoy talking to you

poke fun at her with a smile and she will poke back if she likes you

make sure to make your intentions known or else you'll get friendzoned as she'll then lose attraction and see you as a friend

don't say any overly sexual thing unless you have her laughing and smiling a lot and she touches you or you're a chad

again just maintain good body language and stay calm

make her laugh

make her ENJOY being around you

that is the biggest part

ENJOYMENT

if she enjoys being around you and her body language and tone reflects it then you can ask her out to solidify in her mind that you don't want to be her friend but her boyfriend/sexual partner for a night

you need to let her know that you want to date her or else you get friendzoned

it takes many tries and sometimes you never succeed because its a dice roll but for most it will eventually work

this is of course after you looksmax

This comment is the whole ball game. If you can do this its just a numbers game really you will finsd someone

I don't get so many opportunities... Fml

Go to coffee shops with communal seating arrangements and just wait for the opportunity to arise to have an innocent conversation, or go to a bar, or hell even go on a dating app

No coffee shops in my country. Last time i was in a bar there were absolutely no girls. Even if there is some, they always come with their boyfriends. I'm too ugly for a dating app. My only options are prostitutes 4life...

Where do you live just curious?

One of the balkan countries, don't wanna tell much

You are albanian I am assuming?

No

The 2nd part has been said by no one, ever.

You’re reframing an idea to fit your narrative. What was likely said was “don’t be a creep when talking to girls”. It’s likely you have no idea what that means.

It has been said by 30% of commenters on the "I have beeen rejected 1000 times" /r/confessions thread

It's a balancing act.

I realize that in the incel universe things are black and white. In reality, you have to actually read social situations to determine what is and isn't appropriate.

Incel ideology revolves around unchangeable rules that guarantee success or doom you to failure. Those rules aren't real. They may reflect certain general trends but they are not 100% guarantees.

I literally just had a conversation with a feeeemale on another thread where she said this. When I probed about the contradiction, she had no response.

Just talk to women like friends. If you have other intentions, there is too much pressure. Become friends first, and other things can happen later. Do not rush things. Women want companionship first.

Not an Incel and in my experience, that simply doesn't work majority of the time.

What do you think works better?

Well firstly I never suggested rushing into anything, unless you are as you lads (I'm assuming you're an Incel but I could be wrong) would call a "Chad" or you are incredibly lucky to score a chick who also wants to rush things I.e jump right into bed, but normally she'll make that known to you more or less outright.

My approach works when it works but I've of course struck out, we all have. I don't think mine is much different from other people's. You gotta have a good mixture of friendliness and flirting. Human beings normally size up a person the moment they meet them, and there's a good chance she has for you pondered the question "would I fuck him?" You have to make your intentions known early, but in a subtle way. Ya know, flirting. Based on their reactions to my flirtatious behavior I then decide whether or not the person is receptive and worth pursuing. This requires a bit of wit, a bit of finesse a bit of a sense of humor. Then eventually if things are progressing ask them out.

Here's the thing though, if you try too hard this can turn them off from the idea since you're trying to force it prematurely. But if you let up too much, not flirt enough, she'll eventually think of you as just a friend as that initial interest has now began to fade.

I wish I had the answers for everyone boyo. All I can tell you is to not give up searching, and experiment with yourself and your style.

Normies aren't IT cucks. 😒

Ignore women, and make lots of money. Get and stay debt-free. Then, LDAR.

No escortcel?

I'd rather flush money down the terlet, than give it to a chick. I spend money on musical equipment and tools, nothing else.

So u rather never put ur dick in a vag?

I got divorced 2 years ago from a super-crazy schizo Adderall addict. Of course, in the beginning, I had no idea. The whole thing took a lot out of me, I was suicidal. Single life is so peaceful..I play music in 3 bands, have lots of work, life is pretty good. Since the divorce I've had two 'encounters', both were kinda meh. At the moment I don't really care.

So, you've had plenty of sex, i hadn't. So u just jerk off or low libido?

Libido is fine..but the thought of having a new roastie complicating my life just kills it for me.

So just hook-ups?

just talk to people like they're people. There's no secret code or combination of words that will make someone want to be in a relationship with you. Try to figure out what you need to develop about yourself that will allow you to reach a point where women are no longer "potential girlfriends" and simply just people, who merit no greater or lesser attention/worry. And more so, try to analyze your rationale for finding a girlfriend. What fulfillment are you seeking, and how can you learn to give that to yourself? Remember, significant others enhance happiness, but they do not create it for us. Nor is it there responsibility to.

Read this thread. I grew up being friends with women, legit friends without wanting sex in return.

Just being friends with a woman doesn't guarantee a relationship.

Fr

My thoughts exactly

Red pillers: “you have to let her know you’re interested in her or she’ll get bored”

This only works with looksmaxed normies and chadlites. Chad never even had to think about how to get a women

This is the funniest sub i've seen on reddit and i still have no clue why.

Show em dick. They say they hate it but they love it. Chad can do it so can I

If only there was a way to establish a relationship with people without there being an underlying goal of fucking them... Oh wait, I think that's called friendship.

I already do that. Read the whole thread.

You're not entitled to people reading everything you write. :)

You're right. I'm not entitled to that.

I knew it.

Yeah, and I'd do the same for my dude friends. I stick up for my friends. Period. It just so happens that I have to do this for my female friends more often, because there are creeps at bars who won't leave them alone. But yeah, someone insults one of my bros? That person is getting told to fuck right the hell off.

Look, you can either take advice from a mentally healthy, successful person, or leave it, but at the end of the day I must be doing something right, whereas you're definitely doing something wrong.

Face is irrelevant if you talk and think like that

If you become a familiar face, then it's your personality that comes to the fore, so you need to social skills to get an "in" in the first place.

Well if you think of friendship as a "screening process" for relationships, then your intention is clearly not friendship.

Well...yea...that's exactly what I'm saying 0o
The point is that making friends and finding a potential partner are two separate processes. Friendships "advancing" to relationships does happen, sure, but it's often advised as the one and only way, which is nonsense. And it's especially bad advice for a lot of current young guys who were never taught how to express their natural, sexual side and in most cases, actually were taught to suppress it. So they will always act entirely platonic around women.

I'd make friends with the girls anyway. If nothing else, you might get a friend with benefits out of it.

Could you be any dumber? Of course his intention isn't friendship. Why should a man pursue friendship if his intention is a relationship? You should get off this sub.

interrogate about my lack of ability to fuck

That's no excuse. You're in our space.

Total war: Rope II

Obviously. I dont see any misunderstanding here though.

Sure. Please show me your superiour kindness and intelligence by explaining where the misunderstanding is.

Yeah. Nicer then most inceltear members. Sure.

Only you can answer that.

But if you, me, Chad, my boss and a few guys from here went out for some beers after work (my boss paying) and a woman looked at us and generalized us a bunch of men all the same, all as bad as each other in all the same ways, that would be completely wrong yeah?

One of the biggest problems with incel doctrine is it's based on a flawed assumption that women aren't individuals, they are practically identical, and the way the last 100 of them you've encountered acted and thought is exactly the same as how all of the others out there will act and think.

Not necessarily.

Do you seriously still play civ 4? We should play together sometimes

Civilization 5: Chads and Incels

Civ 5>civ4

Horses gallop at around 44 kph (27 mph).

Milk yourself. Don't be so fucking lazy.

I am in the fucking real world, dumbass, not some frilly feel goodsy fantasy land you cucks seem to all be in.

Talking to the outcasts was the surefire way to torpedo your life back in high-school, and that hold even for uni. Now imagine not only talking to the autistic nerds, but trying to hook one up! I barely get invited to parties, what makes you think anyone would put their social life on the line to help and ugly nigger get a girlfriend?

No escortcel?

Lol

And you don't know a thing about women as a whole.

take the blackpill you fool. Women aren't that hard to understand. Theres a genetic filter, and it makes complete sense that the bottom 10% will not make the cut. You don't try to rationalize that poverty will get better for people in africa right? So why force a belief that everyone will find someone