IncelTears: "Screenshots of what a woman said on a website isn't proof of the degeneracy of women". Also IncelTears...

186  2018-05-16 by CelderSrolls

"Lets make a subreddit based around the premise of taking some cherrypicked screenshots that prove all Incels are terrible."

123 comments

They are bullies

Im a Chad, but I really dont like how everyone on r/inceltears is acting. Most of the people on their sub are pure human garbage IRL, & thats the place they meet to give themselves a an orgy of value handjobs.

You guys are not the victims of women, you are theirs.

if u say ur a chad, ur not a fucking chad dude

He posts on r/braincels, PewDiePie reddits, reality TV and sci fi reddits, and gets seriously butt hurt when people criticize his favorite shows and starts saying he's a krav maga expert and would whip you IRL. He's the epitome of incel.

If you are wondering why this is so late, he posted a lengthy stoopid diatribe at me 45 days after my post and I'm looking through his history to see what kind of insecure idiot I am dealing with.

Im a Chad

and im bruce lee

facts

I wouldn't say all incels are bad people. But I do think that this subreddit community does consistently post and upvote hateful content, and if you align yourself with a community like that, don't be surprised if you get lumped in.

why did u reply to me

Why not?

facts

facts

fucking facts man

I said facts why ain't he here discussin them

there are just too many facts for him to handle

drowning in facts

facts

Then discuss the aforementioned facts, not your own assumptions about incels.

Yes or no: are cherry-picked screenshots of out-of-context text blurbs that prove your point valid evidence?

Why don't you go hate on black people, men, Muslims or any other group where this applies to?

facts

You're supposed to hate evil you dumb bitch. You don't hate child molesters? Animal abuse?

Your logic. It's absolutely seamless, I must say

facts = hateful content REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Everyone likes to generalize, it goes both ways from what I’ve seen

At least we accept some of us generalise

Some of you do, yeah. A lot don’t seem to realize it though and they genuinely think that every woman on the planet is evil, which is inherently false.

On the other hand you have inceltears folks who think you you’re all evil, miserable people and others that understand certain things don’t apply to all or even most of braincel’s members, and are simply cherry-picked examples.

You’re generalizing by implying that none of them accept that they generalize.

This shit isn’t black and white like people want it to be.

>inherently false.

It's not inherently false. It's not even false.

I’m curious why you think that. What is it that makes all women evil?

The fact that they're clones; a bunch robotic liars. And it's to such an extent that they would rather die than have their façade unravel.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/8hjtqj/lies_women_tell/

A ton of stuff on that list doesn’t apply to a vast number of women. Have you ever actually talked to a female or are you just extrapolating from conversations you’ve overheard or media you’ve seen? When you actually sit down and have a one-on-one conversation a lot of the smoke and mirrors disappear. They’re expected by society to uphold an image of perfect sweetness so a lot of them just placate as much as they can. It makes life easier.

A ton of stuff on that list doesn’t apply to a vast number of women.

HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA. RIGGGGHHHHHTTTTTT.

Thanks for the quality comment, great insight and thought.

As if I'm going to bother with some IT cuck like yourself and just make fun of you. You women are incredibly stupid.

As if I'm going to bother with some IT cuck like yourself and just make fun of you. You women are incredibly stupid.

...says the glass house as it throws a stone.

Better make sure you're perfect before you start insulting other people ;)

Cute. Another IT cunt has arrived. The more the merrier you pathetic fools. The fact that you lurk constantly and post on our sub shows how you can't get away from us no matter what. Check my history out. I have nor ever will post on that piece of shit IT sub ever. You're a disgrace. Now get out.

I think I'll stay actually, thanks though! lol

You're an angry, sad person, and I pity you.

Says the femoid who comes from IT who makes fun of lonely virgins. Now THAT's pathetic.

Never posted or commented on IT so....

But it's okay for you to make fun of other people and use homophobic slurs right? I'm not saying IT is innocent, now that I've taken a look, but your case would be a lot more convincing if you weren't a spineless coward yourself.

So we get insulted all the time 24/7, and yet when we say several things back to fags from IT and the cunt women from there who all make fun of us, somehow we're all spineless cowards? Then what does that make IT?

Oh I'm sure...nothing, because you're just judging based on my comments.

Did you not read what I said? Some of the things they’re saying are super fucked up too. I don’t think many people would deny that. But two wrongs will never make a right. Full stop.

I’m sure that superiority complex is doing great things for you, eh?

Oh yeah, here it comes! Hey, tell me more how I don't get women because of my misogynist personality!

Not saying it’s the cause but it definitely isn’t helping your case friendo

Oh yeah love that part. Hey say more baseless assumptions about me too.

Sorry, the way you put it sounded like you were admitting to having a misogynist personality. I wasn’t tying to attack you, yikes bro

It's called satire genius.

Do you not think I realize that upon your response? yikes bro, cool off

Clearly not, "Bro". Stupid annoying cunt.

My mere existence triggers you doesn’t it? I haven’t said anything to personally attack or offend you and yet you go off on me like I killed your cat. Figure your issues out and come back when you want to have a mature conversation.

We're so incredibly stupid. Yet your entire existence has no meaning because us women don't give you attention, right?

K. Makes sense.

Oh look a cunt has come to the rescue.

Ah yes, now I'm a cunt. Luckily for me, that doesn't offend me as you've never seen one to know what they look like.

it stinks.

Oh man! Got so butthurt that you proceeded to call me a virgin. JFL.

How adorable.

Just saying, babe ;)

Don't call me babe, you stupid cunt.

K, babe

LMAO, the hypocrisy.

"WAH WAH INCELTEARS GENERALIZES US"

"ALL WOMEN ARE ROBOTIC LIARS"

You CuckTears are the biggest faggots by far.

And you Incels are the biggest group of entitled misogynists, by far.

1) Baseless assumptions, faggot.

2) Oh yeah..entitled lmao.

"'Entitled' is a fairly meaningless word that does not accurately describe most of the incels on this sub or elsewhere on the Internet. On one extreme, the word 'entitled' is used to describe men how literally believe that they should be able to force women to date them. On the other extreme, the word 'entitled' is used to describe men who are merely frustrated or sad that they can't find anyone at all to date them. This type of frustration is reasonable, since sex and romantic relationships are regarded by many as one of the most fulfilling things in life. The problem with using the word 'entitled' for both categories of men is that it lumps them together, demonizing men in the latter category by comparing them to men in the former category. If you wish to criticize our views, please be more specific than merely calling us 'entitled.'"

  1. Because your assumptions were?

  2. AHAHAHAHA "Merely frustrated or sad" coming from the guy that calls all women incredibly stupid. Or called "LOL GENERALIZATION" to someone talking about Incels, when then you say all ""femoids"" are self-centered.

I'm not calling all virgins entitled. Those who are entitled are the ones that advocate for rape, get mad at people they know because they won't hook them up, or claim all females are stupid while wanting sex from them.

Wahhh wahhh wahhh I called females stupid on here! Wahhhhhhhhhh go say that entitlement somewhere else, FAGGOT.

awalt

Generalizing is wrong, but that's not quite what's happening here.

If you went to the She-Ra Man-Haters Club and posted stuff from there about how those She-Ra Man-Haters are jerks, you could pick evidence that was fairly representative of what that community thinks. At the same time, it should be obvious that you'd be making a huge logical error if you extrapolated from the She-Ra Man-Haters and said that those attitudes apply to all women.

You could go into a White Nationalist sub and grab posts that showed, fairly, that White Nationalists hate Jews and Blacks and so on. But it wouldn't make sense to ascribe those views to whites in general.

If Braincels was just a sub of guys hanging out, then it would be different. Instead, Braincels is a sub for guys who identify a certain way. It's a specific community defined by everything from its jargon to its views about how the world works. Sure, not all Incels hate themselves and think women are all sorts of garbage, but those general beliefs run through so many threads in here and on other Incel sites.

If Braincells doesn't want outsiders to define them a certain way, then that change needs to start from within. Right now, if you grabbed a post from IncelTears and compared it to the other threads in here and on other Incel forums, most would be fairly representative. Certainly, there are few if any threads in Braincels that show Incels have even the slightest respect for women in general.

All incel means is involuntary celibate. Stop attaching meanings that aren't there. You're saying that virgins inherently hate women which makes you stupid

Nazi just means "national socialist," but it DEFINITELY comes with the connotation of hating Jews, based on the actions and words of most Nazis historically. Incel have just meant "involuntarily celibate" to begin with, but now it comes with the connotation of hating women based on the words and actions of most people in this sub and other places on the net.

You don't like it? Then be an advocate for women on this sub and elsewhere. Until then, you're a part of the problem.

Words, including labels, have connotations and denotations. I think you understand that it's disingenuous to pretend that only the literal meaning of Incel should be used here when it's clear that people who use the word Incel for themselves do it to make themselves as part of a community that has certain characteristics.

Lmao, who actually uses 'incel' as a sort of brand label. Perhaps you can provide me with an example, but I've never heard of a group of people who came up with some name for a club which they eagerly wished to escape, and in which there is no sense of pride in being a member of. I can see why people would label themselves Christians, Black Panthers, the specific name of some sports club, or book club, etc. These sorts of societies and their labels represent choice. It's something you want to belong to.

Now I understand we (struggling males) don't have to comment on incel forums, but there still is a contrast between a word that just describes our unfortunate situation in life and a group we wish to belong to. It would be like if a bunch of underpaid factory workers (who had no better employment options obv) made a forum called 'underpaid factory workers', perhaps shortened it to 'underpaid-factos' or some shit (incel is of course short involuntarily celibate).

The word incels is merely a very broad description of the state of our sexual lives. That's it.

Lmao, who actually uses 'incel' as a sort of brand label, like we're some legitimate organization. Perhaps you can provide me with an example, but I've never heard of any group that came up with some name for a club which they eagerly wished to escape, and in which there is no sense of pride in being a member of. I can see why people would label themselves Christians, Black Panthers, the specific name of some sports club, or book club, etc. These sorts of organizations/societies and their labels represent choice. It's something you want to belong to.

Now I understand we (struggling males) don't have to comment on incel forums, but there still is a contrast between a word that just describes our unfortunate situation in life and a group we wish to belong to. It would be like if a bunch of underpaid factory workers (who had no better employment options obv) made a forum called 'underpaid factory workers', perhaps shortened it to 'underpaid-factos' or some shit (incel is of course short involuntarily celibate). And all they did was hangout, talk shit with each other, and complain about their bosses, company, and wealthy people.

The word incels is merely a very broad description of the state of our sexual lives. That's it.

Wow this comment is so high IQ and thoughtful that I had to stop and take a sip of water, no joking.

Yeah, nobody wears the 'incel label' as a badge of honor

Nobody tells people, even anonymously, "I'm an incel" referring to any specific online forum.

We're simply involuntarily celibate males (we struggle to obtain sex and relationships), and so we go to places where we can talk to other guys who struggle in the same way.

Now you're just doing damage control with a straw man lol

Do tell.

damage control with a strawman = assuming that we call ourselves incels because we hate women

All right. Fair enough.

What you're saying, if I understand correctly, is that you don't want to be lumped in with the others—you basically don't want to be guilty by association.

I agree that that's unfair, but is it realistic to expect anything else given the circumstances?

When I was 17, I would have met the denotative meaning/technical definition of being an Incel.So let's say I’m 17 and I decided to "hang out" with a bunch of people who also fit the definition of Incel. And let's say maybe a third of the group espouses views that I don't agree with. But I keep hanging out with them because we can talk about other stuff like just how shitty it is to not be able to get laid.

Over time, though, outsiders come to see the group as not just virgins, but virgins who believe awful things about women. Sure, it might only be a third of the group that says these things, but they're loud and they're not afraid to be in your face about it.

Within a month, people are just calling us "That Group of Virgins" or TGoV for short. And, eventually, they are looking at the group and saying "That Group of Virgins are really awful." It's unfair, but that's what people do.

To make things worse, the hateful rhetoric within TGoV has ramped up. The group has grown and now a solid half of TGoV consistently share ideas that I don't agree with.

But I choose to stay among them, and I never do or say anything to curb the views that I disagree with and that I know outsiders find disgusting. I find a few other groups with which I can share my sexual woes, and I hang out with them, too; however, I also keep coming back to TGoV. I could choose to abandon them, but I don't.

Soon, outsiders are mocking TGoVs. They're lumping us all together, assuming that all of us TGoVs must agree with the ones who say the most horrible things.

Among outsiders, the term TGoV becomes synonymous with "self-loathing virgin misogynist."When that happens, I can be outraged and complain that it's not fair because the term TGoV "is merely a very broad description of the state of our sexual lives." I can say "Not all TGoVs!" But what do I accomplish by that?

If I take that course, I reveal I was more upset by people unfairly generalizing about me than I was about people unfairly generalizing about women. I show that I might not be a misogynist myself, but I'm at least implicitly tolerant of those who are. I make it clear that the only problem I'm interested in addressing is the one that hurts my feelings.

Which brings us back to whether or not it's fair or accurate for IncelTears to clip the worst of what Incels post and generalize it towards the whole. And the answer is that, if they're wrong, it's only by a matter of degree.

Rightly or wrongly, Incel has come to mean more than just "person who can't get laid."

Getting upset about the definition is just a battle of semantics. Plus it's also close to being an example of the Persuasive Definition fallacy.

And getting upset about being lumped in with misogynists is a hollow complaint—if not outright disingenuous—when the person in question seems to have no problem with misogyny even if they’re not being misogynist themselves.

At the end of the day, misogynistic comments comprise a sizable portion of various Incel forums. If there are Incels on those forums who don’t hate women, the best that can be said about them is that they’re indifferent to all the misogyny that surrounds them.

You could go into a White Nationalist sub and grab posts that showed, fairly, that White Nationalists hate Jews and Blacks and so on. But it wouldn't make sense to ascribe those views to whites in general.

Instead, Braincels is a sub for guys who identify a certain way. It's a specific community defined by everything from its jargon to its views about how the world works.

I don't see how these two are different. Each is a sub for people who identify in a certain way, a specific communities defined by it's views and jargon.

Yeah, I worded that poorly. I meant to say that the two are the same (other than the obvious content differences).

Typical retarded comment from some retarded IT user.

Ironic

Again, typical retarded comment from some retarded IT user who has no idea what she is talking about.

And who the fuck are you? Saving m'lady? Pathetic loser.

Ironic

M'lady.

Do tell.

If you don't understand why it's a retarded comment, then you're indeed retarded as I originally stated.

Generalizing is wrong

The FIRST thing this retard said, and yet what does he go and do? Generalize all incels. Lmfao. Dumb ass.

Either you're literally unable to read the rest of the sentence that you're quoting from—and therefore also unable to understand what the post is saying—or you know you've lost if you address the argument fully. But do keep up the name calling if it makes you feel better.

"gEnEraLiZInG iS wRoNg"

Proceeds to generalize after the first sentence. Just lol at you, you low IQ.

“Generalizing is wrong” is not the first sentence. Please let me know if you’d like further assistance digging your hole.

"gEnEraLiZInG iS wRoNg"

Just curious: how old are you?

Old enough.

Oh well.

Isn't it kind of hypocritical that you think it's unfair for someone to blanket a generalization about incels based off cherry picked screen shots when that's literally what this sub does every single day about women? Lmao

Now I don't agree with IT at all. I kinda agree that that sub is a massive bully culture. I don't think being an incel inherently makes you a bad person.

However, I do think that /r/braincels consistently posts and upvotes hateful content. If you associate with a subreddit like that, don't be surprised if people lump you in.

r/woosh

OP is kinda mild looking through his history, though he does seem to share the same sentiments as most incels in this sub. Not the worst offender, but is still bad.

can u do the same with me

Haha we should all just comment on his things trying to get roundups of ourselves. Like one of those shit Facebook quizzes

lmfao let's do it

OP also posted a misogynistic joke, which I would classify as hate.

Lol.

You didn't like my toasie roastie joke? But it was such good word play between hot lookwise and hot temperature wise.

Everyone loves good wordplay!

I'm curious, what does roastie mean to you?

It's just a term dude. Don't really look into it the much.

A term for what?

Sluts

All of Reddit is hate.

No its not

IT is pathetic for wasting its time on you guys I’m an ally

IT: THATS NOT A SOUUUUUURCE REEEEEEEEEE

I came here from IncelTears, figured there's no way a group getting such a terrible rap could be as vile as people make out.

Changed my mind after seeing that 90% of comments on literally any post are either racist, misogynistic, invites violence/abuse/hate or is just out right cruel. You all had a chance after your previous sub was banned to prove to people you aren't how they make you out, fucked that up didn't ya

Gtfo retard

With pleasure.

Fuck yes. Even BG is throwing the hate.

reeeeeeee

You all had a chance after your previous sub was banned to prove to people you aren't how they make you out, fucked that up didn't ya

And you all got called out on subredditoftheday. Go figure.

Ok now leave nobody wants you here anyway

Shut the fuck up you communist faggot shithead.

Somebody sounds insecure

The hypocrisy.

Inceltears actually is the worst.

They are fake as well

Women are worthless my nigga

The people on inceltears are subhuman

VERY HIGH IQ POST

Source?

High IQ

I honestly think you guys are hilarious and have an awesome sense of humor. I’d be friend with you guys IRL.

cherry picked lol as if every post on this board isn't shit. Like, I almost think this is worse than incels.me because you guys think you're funny in some way

r/woosh

Says the femoid who comes from IT who makes fun of lonely virgins. Now THAT's pathetic.

Wow this comment is so high IQ and thoughtful that I had to stop and take a sip of water, no joking.

A term for what?

And you Incels are the biggest group of entitled misogynists, by far.