Well since the vast majority of these are false....
I wonder where the fact that in many states, even up until the 80s, wives were considered the chattel of their husbands fits in with all your brainy logic lol
wives were considered the chattel of their husbands
False. That's just revisionism, and not even a very good one considering we have people who actually lived through those decades to back up how full of shit you are
Women are so privileged but they want more. They should never have had rights in the first place. Liberating them politically and sexually was the mistake which will destroy western civilization. Wet NEED shariah law NOW.
Who I originally responded to did, so that was kind of the whole point of this conversation, I can tell conversational comprehension is not your strong suit. Thanks for playing.
No, you said "you". That is a direct reference to the person you are talking to. The word you should have used was "he" or even the dreaded "y'all" if you wanted to incorrectly lump me in with the speaker you were referencing. I'm sorry you have problems with English. Rope can help.
so you aren't incel? you aren't a part of this group?
Rope can help.
sorry i'm not the self-victimizing pussy brigade you are used to talk to, i'm very happy and fond of life, so "roping" would be kind of pointless don't you think?
No, I'm not incel. Probably should go volcel considering all the problems it gets me into, but I'm not there yet. This place is a gold mine for top-kek shitposting. Just like my first comment to you about sacrificing virgins was a shitpost. (And a pretty obvious one at that) However you lacked the basic observational skills to see that.
Also, I never said who the rope would help. Judging by your inability to read, and your lack of a sense of humor, I can imagine that it would help those around you. Just because you are fond of your life does not mean that the people you interact with are fond of it.
should go volcel considering all the problems it gets me into
aaw, are all the ladies mean to you? or are you such a slayer that married women throw themselves at you and you get in trouble with all the "cuck" husbands? XD
However you lacked the basic observational skills to see that.
or maybe you are one of the shittiest shit posters, considered that?
Also, I never said who the rope would help.
feeling very clever are we?
Just because you are fond of your life does not mean that the people you interact with are fond of it.
you are absolutely right, but in this case, i'm sorry to disappoint you, people around me are also very fond of me being alive. sorry if you don't know how that feels, but i can tell you think you are a very good troll right? wrong, you are very bad at it, and i don't intent to waste time cleaving words with you without any intended conclusion. bye bye buddy boy. hope you trip on that rope of yours. sorry you couldn't "trigger" me like any good troll would have, but keep practicing and maybe you will become average one day...
and you unfortunately aren't even though you wish so hard for it, what a great non-response, what happened to the trolling attempt? not that fun when you are bad at triggering people and maybe get a little bit triggered yourself in the process?
and the most classic trait of the bad troll, gotta have the last word, only way you can get that false feeling of victory. how pathetic and predictable.
Nah, you are perfect just the way you are. I'm sure there is something there for worth. I mean, someone as oblivious as you had got to have something. You get triggered, then make a powerpoint about how not triggered you are. Then, you have to have the last word, so you say the other guy has to have the last word. I have only in my wildest dreams thought that someone as ignorant and self-aggrandizing as you existed.
You could stop replying, you could block me, you could do a lot of things. However, you chooses to keepses this up my precious. Don't worry precious, I will not let the evil hobitses take you away!
The little things you do, the simple gestures you make, the feelings and thoughts that you share with me. I adore the way you look, the way you move, and your infectious smile.
There are so many things to love about you!
Do you know I love it when you daydream and you think no one is watching?
Do you know I love the way your eyes sparkle when you tell a funny story?
Do you know that I love the shape of your ears?
Do you know I love to watch you sleep?
I could go on and on.
It's important to me that you know that I love you - and how much I love you.
So whatever it is that you are doing, thinking or saying, as you go about your day -- know that I am there with you, loving you.
Things could not be any better than having you in my life. You are my inspiration and my shoulder to cry on, you're the one who stands by me through everything and most of all, you make me know that I am loved. There is no one that completes me the way that you do. You mean everything to me.
Just me and my 💕daddy💕, hanging out I got pretty hungry🍆 so I started to pout 😞 He asked if I was down ⬇for something yummy 😍🍆 and I asked what and he said he'd give me his 💦cummies!💦 Yeah! Yeah!💕💦 I drink them!💦 I slurp them!💦 I swallow them whole💦 😍 It makes 💘daddy💘 😊happy😊 so it's my only goal... 💕💦😫Harder daddy! Harder daddy! 😫💦💕 1 cummy💦, 2 cummy💦💦, 3 cummy💦💦💦, 4💦💦💦💦 I'm 💘daddy's💘 👑princess 👑but I'm also a whore! 💟 He makes me feel squishy💗!He makes me feel good💜! 💘💘💘He makes me feel everything a little should!~ 💘💘💘 👑💦💘Wa-What!💘💦👑
Right? The higher premium women have to pay is worth it considering they are exempt from the draft, first to be rescued in the event of a catastrophe, have shelters specifically for them in the event that they become homeless or abused, a heavy bias in the legal system (family and criminal court), and the diversity hiring quotas they benefit from.
I was not aware of that. Does it have to do with previous history of accidents it is it just a projection of statistics, since men tend to be more prone to accidents driving than women?
It's shitty too, but the thing about women having to pay more because uterus is such bullshit
yes, i know that, from a bussiness perspective, it makes sense, but it stops making sense from every other perspective. Like, only a private sector would charge for bringing life.
Sometimes this sub is so weird XD. Like, you guys seem to hate women, but also agree with some feminist stuff even if you don't know it, it for totally wrong reasons.
I'm not an incel, but abortion is the only right that I agree voids should have. Living is suffering, so you're doing good by killing a fetus.
On a unrelated note you fucking invaders are too much previsible. When I answered your comment I knew that your answer would be exactly this one, like wow what a surprise, incels are not all the same and the only thing they absolutely have in common is their inceldom.
And yes, most of the last are, in fact, party if a Patriarchal society. If you bother to listen to them more carefully you would find the Patriarchal system benefits women in some instances, even if it is because they are considered less capable or threatening than men.
in some situations yes, it benefits them, but at it's core it's about "using women", transforming them into a stock whose value is only their bodies, their ability to give birth. In a patriarchal society, women are commodities, exchange between families to strengthen bonds, for convinience, etc. Of course we are no longer marrying of women willy nilly, that's thanks to feminism, but it's not as if that fight is over. Their objective is to not be seen as a glorified incubator but as human beings. That's at the core of feminism, to my knowledge (not really an academic of feminism, just read about it from more sources than youtube).
That all assumes patriarchy exists, which of course, it does not. If anyone has been "used", its men. Considering they are the ones that have been drafted to fight the wars that build a society where women actually had the opertunity to ask said society for the right to vote (and notice that asking didnt even come with the reciprocal duty to register for the draft).
If feminisms objective is not to be seen a glorified incubator then congrats, women are much less disposable than men.
Of course, a rudimentary understanding shows that feminism was never about that. The whole movement was about secureing rights without reciprocal duties. Which is why first wave feminists were part of the White Feather Campaign.
patriarchal societies certainly existed. If your take is that in this societies most men were used in a similar way as women were, you would be correct. No matter if it was a man or a woman, the feudal lord owned them all. The point is that even in aristocratic circles, women were relegated to commodities, exchanged between families, with no independence.
And rights are not something that gets exchanged by duties. They are recognized as a basis not necessarily related to duties.
As for the white feathers campaing, I was not aware and I agree it is bullshit. It's not as if in the long run of feminism they were always right, it was a varied movement and, admitedly, wory over male issues regarding gender are a newer concept.
Patriarchal societes have existed, sure. That has exactly nothing to do with the modern, western world. Neither does the practice of arranged marriage (or even partially arranged mariage) have anthing to do with the modern world. But you would be absolutely incorrect to imply that all women in feudal civilization were treated as commodities. Aristocratic women were absolutly treated far better than common males, you could even make the claim that common females were treated better. After all, when the Mongols invaded, who do you think was sent to fight them? The man, or the women in their qipaos?
Rights have always been something exchanged for duties. Thats why men had to register for the draft if they wanted to vote. Right as a "just becuz" ideal is very, very recent.
Yes, worry over male issues is new, and the biggest resisters against this issue is feminist.
The approach is different. What I've seen is that proponents of male issues, MARs, are more interested in deconstructing whatever feminism has accomplished and not actually understanding or solving men issues. I was aware of the documentary, I have not gotten around to watch it mostly because listening to people I disagree with for an hour and a half seems excruciating, but I'll give it a go.
As I understand it reinterprets history as well being protected and coddled while men were disposed of as cattle or sacrificial lamb.
What? You have seen MRA's try to deconstruct the accomplishments of feminism and not actually care about mens issues?
How many men have you seriously seen say that they want to roll back the rights of women? Virtually none.
How many"my body, my choice" feminists have you seen who give a shit about male circumcision? Virtually none.
How many MRA's raise awareness and and fight male circumcision? Pretty much all of them.
>I was aware of the documentary, I have not gotten around to watch it mostly because listening to people I disagree with for an hour and a half seems excruciating, but I'll give it a go.
It shows both sides.
>As I understand it reinterprets history as well being protected and coddled while men were disposed of as cattle or sacrificial lamb.
It doesnt really talk about history past the 1970's or so. So no, not at all.
...you do know that it was MEN in Congress who created the draft, yes? And MEN who started the wars... I don't have the time to keep listing things off, but we live in a patriarchy where men control other men, as well as women. If you want women to have to sign up for the draft, too, why don't you ask your (likely male) congressperson to introduce a bill.
At any rate, whatever narrative you're trying to construct about men being oppressed by women is patently false.
Feminism is all about women (and their male advocates) wanting women to be taken as seriously in society and treated with the same respect as men. Conversely, that's what the patriarchy is – a system and society in which men's opinions, skills, etc. are valued more than women. And that's currently still the world we live in, even if things are changing and equality between the sexes is rising. That's it.
Well one problem seems to be objective evaluation of skills. If we lower the standards, then "treated with the same respect" means nothing. If we don't, then "treated with the same respect" is a lie, because "same" would mean "same" instead of different.
Another problem is where you think women are not "taken as seriously in society" as men. That's just you being a massive imbecile.
Tell that to the women who don't get taken as seriously as men in their careers. It's a massive problem. You're an imbecile for ignoring it. You're part of the problem.
Rape and statutory rape are different things you fucking moron. And getting laid at 15 is awesome. Virginity is a disease. Where he fucked up was when he got her pregnant.
(1) their power to influence men since antiquity using their sexuality
(2) NASA, government, Hollywood, Google are literally begging you to just show up and become astronaut, CEO, etc.
(3) movement supporting breast cancer and ignoring male-only diseases
(4) far lower number of women in blue-collar positions that actually do the shit to maintain civilization like laborer, watchman, plumbers, taxi drivers, mechanic, various technicians, army and cops to protect civilization.
4 reminds me of that women's march in Spain where all the women went on strike for the day and marched through Madrid chanting about getting longer maternity leave or whatever, and you can see (all male) construction workers fixing the sidewalks as all the women just march past them.
you know I never thought of it when I read all the stories about teachers porking their much younger students... but it is rape isn't it? never heard the media call it that.
The biggest advantage most women have is the safety net. They get to live their entire lives free of the fear that they could end up with nothing. They're less likely to be homeless, die, or kill themselves. They actually live longer. A couple year times billions of people equals billions of years more life they experience. But, they have the gall to whine about not enough women in STEM or the payment of Hollywood actresses. Fuck off.
should go volcel considering all the problems it gets me into
aaw, are all the ladies mean to you? or are you such a slayer that married women throw themselves at you and you get in trouble with all the "cuck" husbands? XD
However you lacked the basic observational skills to see that.
or maybe you are one of the shittiest shit posters, considered that?
Also, I never said who the rope would help.
feeling very clever are we?
Just because you are fond of your life does not mean that the people you interact with are fond of it.
you are absolutely right, but in this case, i'm sorry to disappoint you, people around me are also very fond of me being alive. sorry if you don't know how that feels, but i can tell you think you are a very good troll right? wrong, you are very bad at it, and i don't intent to waste time cleaving words with you without any intended conclusion. bye bye buddy boy. hope you trip on that rope of yours. sorry you couldn't "trigger" me like any good troll would have, but keep practicing and maybe you will become average one day...
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1 mychemicalchristmas 2018-05-16
No comments tho. We suck.
1 Trumpisagoldengod 2018-05-16
Well since the vast majority of these are false....
I wonder where the fact that in many states, even up until the 80s, wives were considered the chattel of their husbands fits in with all your brainy logic lol
1 TwoGendersOneIncel 2018-05-16
False. That's just revisionism, and not even a very good one considering we have people who actually lived through those decades to back up how full of shit you are
1 Fogfroof 2018-05-16
Stupid bitch said the 80s lmaoo
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-16
which of them are false?
1 lonely_suicidal_cel 2018-05-16
80s? Are you low IQ or something
1 IncelistanWillRise 2018-05-16
Women are so privileged but they want more. They should never have had rights in the first place. Liberating them politically and sexually was the mistake which will destroy western civilization. Wet NEED shariah law NOW.
1 A1C_SubZero 2018-05-16
I mean, you're not wrong but you never go full sperg bro!
1 aryancel 2018-05-16
women made me muslim inshallah brothers
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
you would all be thrown from the towns highest building.
1 IdiotKnight 2018-05-16
So, Muslims sacrifice virgins?
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
nah, but they do kill the gays, also the ones in the closet.
1 IdiotKnight 2018-05-16
If they are in a closet that just makes it easier to kill them. It goes back to the old saying, "Just like shooting gays in a closet"
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
So don't wish for sharia if you and your little gang here wishes to survive.
1 IdiotKnight 2018-05-16
I can tell reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I never said anything about sharia. Thanks for playing.
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
Who I originally responded to did, so that was kind of the whole point of this conversation, I can tell conversational comprehension is not your strong suit. Thanks for playing.
1 IdiotKnight 2018-05-16
No, you said "you". That is a direct reference to the person you are talking to. The word you should have used was "he" or even the dreaded "y'all" if you wanted to incorrectly lump me in with the speaker you were referencing. I'm sorry you have problems with English. Rope can help.
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
so you aren't incel? you aren't a part of this group?
sorry i'm not the self-victimizing pussy brigade you are used to talk to, i'm very happy and fond of life, so "roping" would be kind of pointless don't you think?
1 IdiotKnight 2018-05-16
No, I'm not incel. Probably should go volcel considering all the problems it gets me into, but I'm not there yet. This place is a gold mine for top-kek shitposting. Just like my first comment to you about sacrificing virgins was a shitpost. (And a pretty obvious one at that) However you lacked the basic observational skills to see that.
Also, I never said who the rope would help. Judging by your inability to read, and your lack of a sense of humor, I can imagine that it would help those around you. Just because you are fond of your life does not mean that the people you interact with are fond of it.
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
aaw, are all the ladies mean to you? or are you such a slayer that married women throw themselves at you and you get in trouble with all the "cuck" husbands? XD
or maybe you are one of the shittiest shit posters, considered that?
feeling very clever are we?
you are absolutely right, but in this case, i'm sorry to disappoint you, people around me are also very fond of me being alive. sorry if you don't know how that feels, but i can tell you think you are a very good troll right? wrong, you are very bad at it, and i don't intent to waste time cleaving words with you without any intended conclusion. bye bye buddy boy. hope you trip on that rope of yours. sorry you couldn't "trigger" me like any good troll would have, but keep practicing and maybe you will become average one day...
1 IdiotKnight 2018-05-16
Lol. Your lack of being trigged shows so well with how much effort you put into all the replies.
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
Putting effort into things = being triggered
Riiiiiight, whatever you need to tell yourself to "cope" buddy boy XD
1 IdiotKnight 2018-05-16
Lol. You are funny. Boy.
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
and you unfortunately aren't even though you wish so hard for it, what a great non-response, what happened to the trolling attempt? not that fun when you are bad at triggering people and maybe get a little bit triggered yourself in the process?
1 IdiotKnight 2018-05-16
Lol. Keep going. Your attempt to appear unconcerned with my comments is working. I promise.
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
bye bye baby bird, sorry i couldn't give you what you where looking for.
1 IdiotKnight 2018-05-16
Aww. Gone already. Though our time together was short, I shall cherish it always. They grow up so fast now days.
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
and the most classic trait of the bad troll, gotta have the last word, only way you can get that false feeling of victory. how pathetic and predictable.
1 IdiotKnight 2018-05-16
Lol. And what do you call what you are doing now? Pot kettle black. You are so much fun!
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
i already told you buddy, not selling what you are looking for, talking about reading comprehension...
1 IdiotKnight 2018-05-16
Nah, you are perfect just the way you are. I'm sure there is something there for worth. I mean, someone as oblivious as you had got to have something. You get triggered, then make a powerpoint about how not triggered you are. Then, you have to have the last word, so you say the other guy has to have the last word. I have only in my wildest dreams thought that someone as ignorant and self-aggrandizing as you existed.
You could stop replying, you could block me, you could do a lot of things. However, you chooses to keepses this up my precious. Don't worry precious, I will not let the evil hobitses take you away!
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
triggered are you? look at all that effort for me not to even bother reading XD
1 IdiotKnight 2018-05-16
Loving you is so easy.
There are so many reasons why I love you…
The little things you do, the simple gestures you make, the feelings and thoughts that you share with me. I adore the way you look, the way you move, and your infectious smile.
There are so many things to love about you!
Do you know I love it when you daydream and you think no one is watching?
Do you know I love the way your eyes sparkle when you tell a funny story?
Do you know that I love the shape of your ears?
Do you know I love to watch you sleep?
I could go on and on.
It's important to me that you know that I love you - and how much I love you.
So whatever it is that you are doing, thinking or saying, as you go about your day -- know that I am there with you, loving you.
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
All that effort, so triggered XD
1 IdiotKnight 2018-05-16
No One Can Replace You
Things could not be any better than having you in my life. You are my inspiration and my shoulder to cry on, you're the one who stands by me through everything and most of all, you make me know that I am loved. There is no one that completes me the way that you do. You mean everything to me.
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
the triggering XD
1 IdiotKnight 2018-05-16
Just me and my 💕daddy💕, hanging out I got pretty hungry🍆 so I started to pout 😞 He asked if I was down ⬇for something yummy 😍🍆 and I asked what and he said he'd give me his 💦cummies!💦 Yeah! Yeah!💕💦 I drink them!💦 I slurp them!💦 I swallow them whole💦 😍 It makes 💘daddy💘 😊happy😊 so it's my only goal... 💕💦😫Harder daddy! Harder daddy! 😫💦💕 1 cummy💦, 2 cummy💦💦, 3 cummy💦💦💦, 4💦💦💦💦 I'm 💘daddy's💘 👑princess 👑but I'm also a whore! 💟 He makes me feel squishy💗!He makes me feel good💜! 💘💘💘He makes me feel everything a little should!~ 💘💘💘 👑💦💘Wa-What!💘💦👑
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
XD
1 IdiotKnight 2018-05-16
Rawr x3 nuzzles how are you pounces on you you're so warm o3o notices you have a bulge o:
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
XD
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-16
Yup. Being a woman is 10x easier than being a man in the 21st century.
1 IfIHadANidoran 2018-05-16
"never responsible for their actions"
This defines the left and feminists.
1 supermentalcel 2018-05-16
im still waiting for someone to point out just one thing that women are actually oppressed at in society
1 ManyDifferentThings 2018-05-16
intelligence
1 PartyInTheUSSRx 2018-05-16
This sub, if comments like yours are anything to go by
1 Mr_Breast 2018-05-16
Yes, ugly nerds in their basement are the true oppressors. How pathetic can you be if you genuinely feel oppressed by us?
1 imadethistoshitpostt 2018-05-16
Row Row fight the powah! One day we will be free from the shackles of ugly men having opinions.
1 sfcel 2018-05-16
More like how more privileged can they be if a bunch of shitpost on some corner of the internet is the extend of their "oppression".
1 sfcel 2018-05-16
Thank you for proving op's point.
1 Rotciv_IRL 2018-05-16
Favored in healthcare???? They have to pay the uterus tax in most insurance, sir. It's more expensive for them.
1 lonely_suicidal_cel 2018-05-16
Jfl that's a lie
1 Rotciv_IRL 2018-05-16
I was almost sure that in US it's the same as in my country. It's such bullshit for women here.
1 lonely_suicidal_cel 2018-05-16
Boohoo, cry me a River foids
1 BF8211 2018-05-16
Right? The higher premium women have to pay is worth it considering they are exempt from the draft, first to be rescued in the event of a catastrophe, have shelters specifically for them in the event that they become homeless or abused, a heavy bias in the legal system (family and criminal court), and the diversity hiring quotas they benefit from.
1 trevmon 2018-05-16
uterus tax lol
you could just close your legs and stop having so much sex
1 Rotciv_IRL 2018-05-16
Ir counts for wanted pregnancy too. They have to pay extra because women get urgent, so it's costlier for the insurance company to secure women.
1 Dingus_Incel 2018-05-16
Men, especially young men, have to pay more for car insurance.
1 Rotciv_IRL 2018-05-16
I was not aware of that. Does it have to do with previous history of accidents it is it just a projection of statistics, since men tend to be more prone to accidents driving than women? It's shitty too, but the thing about women having to pay more because uterus is such bullshit
1 FireAlarm911 2018-05-16
No, it's not just for having a uterus, it's for all the medical costs having that uterus entails
1 Rotciv_IRL 2018-05-16
yes, i know that, from a bussiness perspective, it makes sense, but it stops making sense from every other perspective. Like, only a private sector would charge for bringing life.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-16
Bringing an ugly male to life should be triple charged and punished with prison time because of the suffering the mother is causing to her son.
1 Rotciv_IRL 2018-05-16
just make abortion legal, problem solved.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-16
I agree!
1 Rotciv_IRL 2018-05-16
Sometimes this sub is so weird XD. Like, you guys seem to hate women, but also agree with some feminist stuff even if you don't know it, it for totally wrong reasons.
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-16
I'm not an incel, but abortion is the only right that I agree voids should have. Living is suffering, so you're doing good by killing a fetus.
On a unrelated note you fucking invaders are too much previsible. When I answered your comment I knew that your answer would be exactly this one, like wow what a surprise, incels are not all the same and the only thing they absolutely have in common is their inceldom.
1 Rotciv_IRL 2018-05-16
We are speaking in another post, I always say the same, because it's true!
1 blackpillnormie 2018-05-16
Or because it's what you believe.
1 Rotciv_IRL 2018-05-16
And yes, most of the last are, in fact, party if a Patriarchal society. If you bother to listen to them more carefully you would find the Patriarchal system benefits women in some instances, even if it is because they are considered less capable or threatening than men.
1 daodepijiu 2018-05-16
Patriarchy is oppressive because it benifits women.
1 Rotciv_IRL 2018-05-16
in some situations yes, it benefits them, but at it's core it's about "using women", transforming them into a stock whose value is only their bodies, their ability to give birth. In a patriarchal society, women are commodities, exchange between families to strengthen bonds, for convinience, etc. Of course we are no longer marrying of women willy nilly, that's thanks to feminism, but it's not as if that fight is over. Their objective is to not be seen as a glorified incubator but as human beings. That's at the core of feminism, to my knowledge (not really an academic of feminism, just read about it from more sources than youtube).
1 daodepijiu 2018-05-16
That all assumes patriarchy exists, which of course, it does not. If anyone has been "used", its men. Considering they are the ones that have been drafted to fight the wars that build a society where women actually had the opertunity to ask said society for the right to vote (and notice that asking didnt even come with the reciprocal duty to register for the draft).
If feminisms objective is not to be seen a glorified incubator then congrats, women are much less disposable than men.
Of course, a rudimentary understanding shows that feminism was never about that. The whole movement was about secureing rights without reciprocal duties. Which is why first wave feminists were part of the White Feather Campaign.
1 Rotciv_IRL 2018-05-16
patriarchal societies certainly existed. If your take is that in this societies most men were used in a similar way as women were, you would be correct. No matter if it was a man or a woman, the feudal lord owned them all. The point is that even in aristocratic circles, women were relegated to commodities, exchanged between families, with no independence. And rights are not something that gets exchanged by duties. They are recognized as a basis not necessarily related to duties. As for the white feathers campaing, I was not aware and I agree it is bullshit. It's not as if in the long run of feminism they were always right, it was a varied movement and, admitedly, wory over male issues regarding gender are a newer concept.
1 daodepijiu 2018-05-16
Patriarchal societes have existed, sure. That has exactly nothing to do with the modern, western world. Neither does the practice of arranged marriage (or even partially arranged mariage) have anthing to do with the modern world. But you would be absolutely incorrect to imply that all women in feudal civilization were treated as commodities. Aristocratic women were absolutly treated far better than common males, you could even make the claim that common females were treated better. After all, when the Mongols invaded, who do you think was sent to fight them? The man, or the women in their qipaos?
Rights have always been something exchanged for duties. Thats why men had to register for the draft if they wanted to vote. Right as a "just becuz" ideal is very, very recent.
Yes, worry over male issues is new, and the biggest resisters against this issue is feminist.
Watch The Red Pill, by Cassie Jaye.
1 Rotciv_IRL 2018-05-16
The approach is different. What I've seen is that proponents of male issues, MARs, are more interested in deconstructing whatever feminism has accomplished and not actually understanding or solving men issues. I was aware of the documentary, I have not gotten around to watch it mostly because listening to people I disagree with for an hour and a half seems excruciating, but I'll give it a go. As I understand it reinterprets history as well being protected and coddled while men were disposed of as cattle or sacrificial lamb.
1 daodepijiu 2018-05-16
What? You have seen MRA's try to deconstruct the accomplishments of feminism and not actually care about mens issues?
How many men have you seriously seen say that they want to roll back the rights of women? Virtually none.
How many"my body, my choice" feminists have you seen who give a shit about male circumcision? Virtually none.
How many MRA's raise awareness and and fight male circumcision? Pretty much all of them.
>I was aware of the documentary, I have not gotten around to watch it mostly because listening to people I disagree with for an hour and a half seems excruciating, but I'll give it a go.
It shows both sides.
>As I understand it reinterprets history as well being protected and coddled while men were disposed of as cattle or sacrificial lamb.
It doesnt really talk about history past the 1970's or so. So no, not at all.
1 Dingus_Incel 2018-05-16
Truth. MRA's are actually fighting for equality. Feminists want more privilege.
1 klausdahaus 2018-05-16
...you do know that it was MEN in Congress who created the draft, yes? And MEN who started the wars... I don't have the time to keep listing things off, but we live in a patriarchy where men control other men, as well as women. If you want women to have to sign up for the draft, too, why don't you ask your (likely male) congressperson to introduce a bill.
At any rate, whatever narrative you're trying to construct about men being oppressed by women is patently false.
1 daodepijiu 2018-05-16
Except thats not how faminist define patriarchy. They define it as a system in which men as a class, opress women as a class.
I never said I wanted women to sign up for the draft nor did I say women oppress men.
1 klausdahaus 2018-05-16
Feminism is all about women (and their male advocates) wanting women to be taken as seriously in society and treated with the same respect as men. Conversely, that's what the patriarchy is – a system and society in which men's opinions, skills, etc. are valued more than women. And that's currently still the world we live in, even if things are changing and equality between the sexes is rising. That's it.
1 daodepijiu 2018-05-16
Women, by and large, are treated better than men. And that is not the deffinition of patriarchy by a academic feminist standard.
1 ManyDifferentThings 2018-05-16
Well one problem seems to be objective evaluation of skills. If we lower the standards, then "treated with the same respect" means nothing. If we don't, then "treated with the same respect" is a lie, because "same" would mean "same" instead of different.
Another problem is where you think women are not "taken as seriously in society" as men. That's just you being a massive imbecile.
1 klausdahaus 2018-05-16
Tell that to the women who don't get taken as seriously as men in their careers. It's a massive problem. You're an imbecile for ignoring it. You're part of the problem.
1 ManyDifferentThings 2018-05-16
lol
1 FreeThomasMair 2018-05-16
[Note: This is what feminists actually believes]
1 efficientglove 2018-05-16
How many people posting here are "net taxpayers"?
Tf is wrong with you.
1 Dingus_Incel 2018-05-16
Thats literally all feminists do. "We WUZ QUEENZ N SHIEET!"
1 efficientglove 2018-05-16
Dude, stop taking credit for other people you dipshit.
You are so fucking pathetic. Wow dude you are born a male! only 1 in 2 are so skilled!
You haven't done shit. You don't pay shit in taxes.
YOU DO NOT GET TO COMPLAIN.
you are a loser. Plain and simple.
1 medalarm 2018-05-16
Damn, who hurt you?
1 Idk12344482305 2018-05-16
I contribute more tax to the state than most men. I get almost nothing out of it outside of services that are provided to everyone.
1 RobotCockRock 2018-05-16
Women can get pregnant from RAPING men now?
1 Incelvester 2018-05-16
I'm sorry, what were you saying?
1 RobotCockRock 2018-05-16
Rape and statutory rape are different things you fucking moron. And getting laid at 15 is awesome. Virginity is a disease. Where he fucked up was when he got her pregnant.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-16
just lol if you're born a male in 2018.
god damn. i was 1 fucking chromosome off of living the dream.
1 lonely_suicidal_cel 2018-05-16
Imagine being this low IQ
1 igorovitch 2018-05-16
so true (3
1 kholaris 2018-05-16
You missed many important points like
(1) their power to influence men since antiquity using their sexuality
(2) NASA, government, Hollywood, Google are literally begging you to just show up and become astronaut, CEO, etc.
(3) movement supporting breast cancer and ignoring male-only diseases
(4) far lower number of women in blue-collar positions that actually do the shit to maintain civilization like laborer, watchman, plumbers, taxi drivers, mechanic, various technicians, army and cops to protect civilization.
1 BF8211 2018-05-16
4 reminds me of that women's march in Spain where all the women went on strike for the day and marched through Madrid chanting about getting longer maternity leave or whatever, and you can see (all male) construction workers fixing the sidewalks as all the women just march past them.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-16
Lmao
1 awake283 2018-05-16
you know I never thought of it when I read all the stories about teachers porking their much younger students... but it is rape isn't it? never heard the media call it that.
1 Dickyknee85 2018-05-16
Pedophilia to be precise.
1 awake283 2018-05-16
Yea. Media sugarcoats that big time. Its literally pedophilic rape...which sounds awful (obviously).
1 balloonanusanimals 2018-05-16
The biggest advantage most women have is the safety net. They get to live their entire lives free of the fear that they could end up with nothing. They're less likely to be homeless, die, or kill themselves. They actually live longer. A couple year times billions of people equals billions of years more life they experience. But, they have the gall to whine about not enough women in STEM or the payment of Hollywood actresses. Fuck off.
1 shockinghillaryquote 2018-05-16
Fuckin Voids have it so easy
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
aaw, are all the ladies mean to you? or are you such a slayer that married women throw themselves at you and you get in trouble with all the "cuck" husbands? XD
or maybe you are one of the shittiest shit posters, considered that?
feeling very clever are we?
you are absolutely right, but in this case, i'm sorry to disappoint you, people around me are also very fond of me being alive. sorry if you don't know how that feels, but i can tell you think you are a very good troll right? wrong, you are very bad at it, and i don't intent to waste time cleaving words with you without any intended conclusion. bye bye buddy boy. hope you trip on that rope of yours. sorry you couldn't "trigger" me like any good troll would have, but keep practicing and maybe you will become average one day...
1 Black__philip 2018-05-16
All that effort, so triggered XD