I always see ugly people wearing stylish and expensive clothes. The literal Chad at my workplace always wears the plainest looking clothes, and fucks the hottest girl in the office. The 5’3 guy wears designer shirts and t-shirts all the time. He still hasn’t seen a vagina in his life.
Both are genuinely nice guys. Both are well-educated. Both have well-paying jobs. The only difference is facial aesthetics and height.
So would a woman in a baggy tracksuit and a woman in a sexy tight fitting dress turn you on the same amount if they're of a similar body type?
Of course body shape matters but to say clothes don't matter is retarded
TBH, having good fashion can help Asiancels. Just look at KPOP, JPOP, and Asian fashion magazines. They may not have super aesthetic faces by western standards, but their fashion gives them sex appeals.
LOL at the guy-on-the-right's scrunched up torso and big head to shoulder width ratio. A team of the gayest fashionista men on the planet will never make him look sexually appealing to women.
Lol. In real life you wouldn't even look at him. I bet you're a 40+ mother that looks at the guy on the right as if it was your child. That's why you mothers keep saying to your ugly kids they're handsome. They need to take the blackpill.
You have women here telling you what they personally find attractive and you call them liars. Tell me oh wise one, what reason do they have to lie about that? Stupidity knows absolutely no bounds. Astonishing.
The reason is: this is how their brains were wired due to evolution. In prehistorical times men had the upper hand due to physical strenghth. The only way for women to survive, was to deceive, lie and hide their true nature. They were forced to do so, and became masters of manipulation. It is part of their brains, it is how their brains are hardwired. So, even if they don't need to lie now, they just do it. They hide the truth, hide their nature. They just lie, because that's how they are. It's their second nature. That's why we incels always say: never believe what a woman says, always look at her actions. This is the only way to know what women want, what their true desires are, what they have on their mind. Women aren't realy aware of the fact they are lying, it feels completely natural to them. That's why they alwas deny it. It is part of their brains.
Not sure why I'm bothering to say this, because its not like you guys will listen, but here goes:
Women are people, and we're all different. Making, and believing, sweeping statements about 50% of the population shows that you don't think of women as people. Especially when you ignore thousands of years as evolution.
No matter how ugly you are, you'll never be as unattractive as your statement. No matter how much you try to hide it, if you don't respect and value a person, they will pick up on it.
As a big believer in evolutionary biology, surely you must agree that humans are hard wired to flag people that might be a threat to you. Someone who does not think of me as a person, with my own needs, rights and boundaries is a threat to me, because they could hurt me. As the physically weaker gender, you can't afford to ignore those red flags (and in fairness, much of it is subconscious).
Just something to think about. I've never in my life thought 'eww that guy is ugly, I'm not going to speak to him'. Frankly if you're nice, polite and don't come across as a threat I'll talk to anyone. I have, however, thought 'I feel unsafe talking to that guy. I'll try not to engage with them'.
The only red flag for women is FACE. That's why they send loveletters to good looking murderers and psychopaths in jail. Look at all the Tinder experiments (Atomic blackpill), look up the halo and failo effect. As long as you're good looking as a male, you van het away with everything. FACE is the only thing that counts for women. Period. And yes, I generalize. That's the way scientists do it.
You never tried to understand. How do you explain the fact that good looking murderers and psychopaths get thousands of loveletters. How do you explain that women stay with their good looking abusers. How do you explain the atomic blackpill. You can't explain cause it's all about FACE. Simple fact. Your theory is just bullshit. It doesn't correspond with the real life facts. Now stop lying please. Be honest to yourself and the people around you. You are lying.
a good looking face goes a long way. sure. I'm not going to even try to dispute that. but both of the guys in the picture are conventionally attractive. the guy one the right is actually...really hot....I don't think he should be labeled "incel" just because he doesn't look like a white, heavily-made up prettyboy supermodel...?
also, your anthropological-biological argument is totally, entirely baseless and what little neurobiological evidence you could scrape up is pseudoscientific at best. Just because there are outlier phenomena (Stockholm Syndrome, Hybristophilia) that doesn't mean your arbitrary, hyperbolic assumptions about female and male brain functions are even close to correct....
also, I encourage you & anyone reading, to take some time to analyze yourself and your thought patterns. Developing a more rational & grounded thought basis is important when it comes to functional social abilities. I encourage you to look into the term "Confirmation bias" as well. Maybe take some Logic and Research Methods courses if you have the means to. It helps with grounding.
Lol, what the hell are you talking about. The right guy has extreme negative canthal tilt, fat lips, thick nose etc. Yes, he would easily have a gf 30 years ago. But we're living in a time of hypergamy. I've been out with guys twice as good looking as him, and even they had a hard time finding a woman. He's invisible to prime women. Way too average for them. And i'm talking based on EXPERIENCE. You don't know anything about male experience. I'm living in one of the richest countries in the world and all that women want here is Chad, until they are post wall fainted flowers. The right guy has no chance or would be cheated on. You really don't know what you're talking about. You really don't.
I've also hooked up with guys MUCH less attractive than him, and I circulated the photo within my group of friends (a few "Stacies" and mostly "normies") and they all agree he's decently--very attractive. (Really depends on your taste in men. Not everyone is going to find everyone attractive, not everyone is going to find everyone ugly).
He's not Channing Tatum, I'll agree, but he's HARDLY Steve Buscemi.
I live in the US and go to a large public state university in the Midwest. I'd say the school I go to is a pretty average, good representation of folks in their 20s, and their behavior, at least in the US. (We're not weird and rapey like the South, and not quite as materialistic as the Northeast or West coast--I've lived in all of those regions, BTW). There literally are no "Chads" at my university. Nobody looks like Channing Tatum or Zac Efron or Ryan Gosling or whatever rich celebrity you guys choose to cling to. Maybe we're all just ugly LOL....
but....the "Chad" type, the guys who can pick up girls, they are pretty much your stereotypical frat guy. Douchey, cocky, and probably pretty shallow....but they're not even conventionally attractive in most cases. Like maybe ONE out of an entire FRATERNITY of 150 guys has looks that come close to the celebrities I see hailed/demonized as "Chads".
The US is one of the most ugly countries in the world. I was there a couple of times and I haven't seen so many ugly people in one country. You are deformed goblins. I wouldn't even call you human. It's uncomparable to a country like the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Australia, Italy, Switzerland. The US is a subhuman country, i didn't see one Stacy or chad there, while I live in an area full of chads. I'm a God in the US. You all have a deformed bonestructure and subhuman faces
It's true, huh. I was shocked cause i only knew the US from the movies. I ve been there 2 months in total and i swear i haven't seen one Stacey or chad. You go to Sweden and you have to look in the darkest corners to find a sub Stacey. They're all Staceys. I probably wouldn't have mental issues if I lived in the US. People are ignorant and cold though. There's no warmth in the US. People are living in their own world it seems. The only nice people were mexicans (mexican women working in hotels).
If you're from a Scandinavian country, I can bet my ass you'd hate your life in the US.
It's fucking awful here.
Our standards of beauty are also probably a LOT different than North/Western Europe too, and we glorify the looks of white women that emulate black features (big lips, "thick", etc).
Maybe you'd have better game getting girls, but the oppressiveness of late-stage capitalism and a failing government is seriously overwhelming. 90% of the US is also ugly landscape-wise as well and it's just a serious shithole to live in. Most of us want to escape to the places you've mentioned haha
Honestly, these guys think that every person on the planet who doesn’t look like Brad Pitt are doomed to be alone. Like they’ve never stepped outside their apartments even once in their life. There are ugly people out there hooking up every single day, and they’re just like “Nope lol that never happens you’re all lying to us lol”. JUST LEAVE YOUR FUCKING HOUSE AND OPEN YOUR EYEBALLS, the evidence is right there dumb-dumb.
I don’t think they necessarily think ugly men will be doomed to be alone, but rather they will just never get casual sex or hookup with women. They see lots of people, especially in college engaging in this, and they want to be a part of it.
The only red flag for women is FACE. That's why they send loveletters to good looking murderers and psychopaths in jail. Look at all the Tinder experiments (Atomic blackpill), look up the halo and failo effect. As long as you're good looking as a male, you van het away with everything. FACE is the only thing that counts for women. Period. And yes, I generalize. That's the way scientists do it.
I don’t think they necessarily think ugly men will be doomed to be alone, but rather they will just never get casual sex or hookup with women. They see lots of people, especially in college engaging in this, and they want to be a part of it.
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1 BRAHMINDEEPSTATE 2018-05-15
Just add a few feet of bone to your frame, bro.
1 cookin_breakfast 2018-05-15
JFL at sub5's fashionceling. I feel embarrassment for them whenever I see them in public
1 WhyNotLayDownAndRot 2018-05-15
same, for some reason ugly asian manlets love spending $1000s on streetwear. i just laugh to myself whenever i see one
1 Hoeasss 2018-05-15
A lot of them fell for the fashion meme, Chad can wear a plain t shirt and some shorts and he'll still get Stacy. It's over
1 TheiWindFelt 2018-05-15
Leaf ricegum alone.
1 bengalsturntup5532 2018-05-15
Lol
1 EvilBananaManRD 2018-05-15
Why in the world would clothes make one sexier? Sexual attraction is about how you look without them.
Human bodies become aroused when they see a fertile, healthy potential partner. What evolutionary advantage would clothes have? It's so damn stupid.
1 Idk12344482305 2018-05-15
I always see ugly people wearing stylish and expensive clothes. The literal Chad at my workplace always wears the plainest looking clothes, and fucks the hottest girl in the office. The 5’3 guy wears designer shirts and t-shirts all the time. He still hasn’t seen a vagina in his life.
Both are genuinely nice guys. Both are well-educated. Both have well-paying jobs. The only difference is facial aesthetics and height.
1 kabloofy 2018-05-15
Clothes accentuate your evolutionary advantage e.g. a well tailored suit makes your shoulders look wider and your waist narrower
1 frankwashere44 2018-05-15
lol
1 shlunty 2018-05-15
So would a woman in a baggy tracksuit and a woman in a sexy tight fitting dress turn you on the same amount if they're of a similar body type? Of course body shape matters but to say clothes don't matter is retarded
1 everythingshewants7 2018-05-15
You don't understand. Body is what makes women desirable, FACE is what men makes desirable. Capiche?
1 EmperorXeno 2018-05-15
No one likes a slob. That's why.
1 Cock_Demon 2018-05-15
Yet drug addled wrecks like Pete Doherty are out there slaying supermodels.
1 BrittyPie 2018-05-15
Adding another item to the list of things incels have a totally irrational hatred for:
Really? I mean really ? How much further down this hole can you even fall? Is there anything you can’t find reason to hate? Jesus fucking Christ...
1 harambeazn 2018-05-15
TBH, having good fashion can help Asiancels. Just look at KPOP, JPOP, and Asian fashion magazines. They may not have super aesthetic faces by western standards, but their fashion gives them sex appeals.
1 serial_tab_opener 2018-05-15
LOL at the guy-on-the-right's scrunched up torso and big head to shoulder width ratio. A team of the gayest fashionista men on the planet will never make him look sexually appealing to women.
1 magical_elf 2018-05-15
You guys are nuts - they guy on the right is really cute! I think I'd prefer him to the guy on the left any day. And no, this is not sarcasm
1 EmperorXeno 2018-05-15
He's a decent looking fella.
1 finnanut27 2018-05-15
Tëèhéê
1 everythingshewants7 2018-05-15
Lol. In real life you wouldn't even look at him. I bet you're a 40+ mother that looks at the guy on the right as if it was your child. That's why you mothers keep saying to your ugly kids they're handsome. They need to take the blackpill.
1 BrittyPie 2018-05-15
You have women here telling you what they personally find attractive and you call them liars. Tell me oh wise one, what reason do they have to lie about that? Stupidity knows absolutely no bounds. Astonishing.
1 everythingshewants7 2018-05-15
The reason is: this is how their brains were wired due to evolution. In prehistorical times men had the upper hand due to physical strenghth. The only way for women to survive, was to deceive, lie and hide their true nature. They were forced to do so, and became masters of manipulation. It is part of their brains, it is how their brains are hardwired. So, even if they don't need to lie now, they just do it. They hide the truth, hide their nature. They just lie, because that's how they are. It's their second nature. That's why we incels always say: never believe what a woman says, always look at her actions. This is the only way to know what women want, what their true desires are, what they have on their mind. Women aren't realy aware of the fact they are lying, it feels completely natural to them. That's why they alwas deny it. It is part of their brains.
1 CommonMisspellingBot 2018-05-15
Hey, everythingshewants7, just a quick heads-up:
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1 magical_elf 2018-05-15
Not sure why I'm bothering to say this, because its not like you guys will listen, but here goes:
Women are people, and we're all different. Making, and believing, sweeping statements about 50% of the population shows that you don't think of women as people. Especially when you ignore thousands of years as evolution.
No matter how ugly you are, you'll never be as unattractive as your statement. No matter how much you try to hide it, if you don't respect and value a person, they will pick up on it.
As a big believer in evolutionary biology, surely you must agree that humans are hard wired to flag people that might be a threat to you. Someone who does not think of me as a person, with my own needs, rights and boundaries is a threat to me, because they could hurt me. As the physically weaker gender, you can't afford to ignore those red flags (and in fairness, much of it is subconscious).
Just something to think about. I've never in my life thought 'eww that guy is ugly, I'm not going to speak to him'. Frankly if you're nice, polite and don't come across as a threat I'll talk to anyone. I have, however, thought 'I feel unsafe talking to that guy. I'll try not to engage with them'.
1 everythingshewants7 2018-05-15
The only red flag for women is FACE. That's why they send loveletters to good looking murderers and psychopaths in jail. Look at all the Tinder experiments (Atomic blackpill), look up the halo and failo effect. As long as you're good looking as a male, you van het away with everything. FACE is the only thing that counts for women. Period. And yes, I generalize. That's the way scientists do it.
1 magical_elf 2018-05-15
I tried, I really did
1 everythingshewants7 2018-05-15
You never tried to understand. How do you explain the fact that good looking murderers and psychopaths get thousands of loveletters. How do you explain that women stay with their good looking abusers. How do you explain the atomic blackpill. You can't explain cause it's all about FACE. Simple fact. Your theory is just bullshit. It doesn't correspond with the real life facts. Now stop lying please. Be honest to yourself and the people around you. You are lying.
1 randomeiffel 2018-05-15
dude, you need to get a serious reality check.
a good looking face goes a long way. sure. I'm not going to even try to dispute that. but both of the guys in the picture are conventionally attractive. the guy one the right is actually...really hot....I don't think he should be labeled "incel" just because he doesn't look like a white, heavily-made up prettyboy supermodel...?
also, your anthropological-biological argument is totally, entirely baseless and what little neurobiological evidence you could scrape up is pseudoscientific at best. Just because there are outlier phenomena (Stockholm Syndrome, Hybristophilia) that doesn't mean your arbitrary, hyperbolic assumptions about female and male brain functions are even close to correct....
also, I encourage you & anyone reading, to take some time to analyze yourself and your thought patterns. Developing a more rational & grounded thought basis is important when it comes to functional social abilities. I encourage you to look into the term "Confirmation bias" as well. Maybe take some Logic and Research Methods courses if you have the means to. It helps with grounding.
1 everythingshewants7 2018-05-15
Lol, what the hell are you talking about. The right guy has extreme negative canthal tilt, fat lips, thick nose etc. Yes, he would easily have a gf 30 years ago. But we're living in a time of hypergamy. I've been out with guys twice as good looking as him, and even they had a hard time finding a woman. He's invisible to prime women. Way too average for them. And i'm talking based on EXPERIENCE. You don't know anything about male experience. I'm living in one of the richest countries in the world and all that women want here is Chad, until they are post wall fainted flowers. The right guy has no chance or would be cheated on. You really don't know what you're talking about. You really don't.
1 randomeiffel 2018-05-15
I've also hooked up with guys MUCH less attractive than him, and I circulated the photo within my group of friends (a few "Stacies" and mostly "normies") and they all agree he's decently--very attractive. (Really depends on your taste in men. Not everyone is going to find everyone attractive, not everyone is going to find everyone ugly).
He's not Channing Tatum, I'll agree, but he's HARDLY Steve Buscemi.
I live in the US and go to a large public state university in the Midwest. I'd say the school I go to is a pretty average, good representation of folks in their 20s, and their behavior, at least in the US. (We're not weird and rapey like the South, and not quite as materialistic as the Northeast or West coast--I've lived in all of those regions, BTW). There literally are no "Chads" at my university. Nobody looks like Channing Tatum or Zac Efron or Ryan Gosling or whatever rich celebrity you guys choose to cling to. Maybe we're all just ugly LOL....
but....the "Chad" type, the guys who can pick up girls, they are pretty much your stereotypical frat guy. Douchey, cocky, and probably pretty shallow....but they're not even conventionally attractive in most cases. Like maybe ONE out of an entire FRATERNITY of 150 guys has looks that come close to the celebrities I see hailed/demonized as "Chads".
1 everythingshewants7 2018-05-15
The US is one of the most ugly countries in the world. I was there a couple of times and I haven't seen so many ugly people in one country. You are deformed goblins. I wouldn't even call you human. It's uncomparable to a country like the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Australia, Italy, Switzerland. The US is a subhuman country, i didn't see one Stacy or chad there, while I live in an area full of chads. I'm a God in the US. You all have a deformed bonestructure and subhuman faces
1 randomeiffel 2018-05-15
HAHAHHAHAHHA omg
ur not even wrong tho
1 everythingshewants7 2018-05-15
It's true, huh. I was shocked cause i only knew the US from the movies. I ve been there 2 months in total and i swear i haven't seen one Stacey or chad. You go to Sweden and you have to look in the darkest corners to find a sub Stacey. They're all Staceys. I probably wouldn't have mental issues if I lived in the US. People are ignorant and cold though. There's no warmth in the US. People are living in their own world it seems. The only nice people were mexicans (mexican women working in hotels).
1 randomeiffel 2018-05-15
If you're from a Scandinavian country, I can bet my ass you'd hate your life in the US. It's fucking awful here. Our standards of beauty are also probably a LOT different than North/Western Europe too, and we glorify the looks of white women that emulate black features (big lips, "thick", etc). Maybe you'd have better game getting girls, but the oppressiveness of late-stage capitalism and a failing government is seriously overwhelming. 90% of the US is also ugly landscape-wise as well and it's just a serious shithole to live in. Most of us want to escape to the places you've mentioned haha
1 lonely_suicidal_cel 2018-05-15
Teehee
1 Hoeasss 2018-05-15
TEEEEEHEEEEE
1 BrittyPie 2018-05-15
Honestly, these guys think that every person on the planet who doesn’t look like Brad Pitt are doomed to be alone. Like they’ve never stepped outside their apartments even once in their life. There are ugly people out there hooking up every single day, and they’re just like “Nope lol that never happens you’re all lying to us lol”. JUST LEAVE YOUR FUCKING HOUSE AND OPEN YOUR EYEBALLS, the evidence is right there dumb-dumb.
1 not_good_looking 2018-05-15
Your definition of ugly is a guy who looks like a male model. Guys who are truly ugly are invisible to you.
1 BrittyPie 2018-05-15
Okay. Thanks for telling me how my brain works.
1 dylang92 2018-05-15
I don’t think they necessarily think ugly men will be doomed to be alone, but rather they will just never get casual sex or hookup with women. They see lots of people, especially in college engaging in this, and they want to be a part of it.
1 BlackSamoorai 2018-05-15
Both mog me
1 e_z_p_z_ 2018-05-15
They both look like shit
1 Keebay17 2018-05-15
I'd smash
1 randomeiffel 2018-05-15
is the guy on the right supposed to be ugly/incel?
1 RedPillMGTOW 2018-05-15
Without the nigg nog lips he´s a 5,5 or maybe even 6.
1 sunflower201 2018-05-15
yeah he should have put on a better head that day
1 Picopeso 2018-05-15
Let me guess, /r/MFA?
1 harambeazn 2018-05-15
The reason he looks bad in the right pic is because he barely has a chin and a jaw, and he has shitty hair
1 soyboycel 2018-05-15
If you're arab and have black admixture it's over.
1 AAAbullshitdetector 2018-05-15
Maybe you guys should work out your fucking reardelts so your shoulders are slouched forward like a monkey all the time.
1 everythingshewants7 2018-05-15
You don't understand. Body is what makes women desirable, FACE is what men makes desirable. Capiche?
1 not_good_looking 2018-05-15
Your definition of ugly is a guy who looks like a male model. Guys who are truly ugly are invisible to you.
1 everythingshewants7 2018-05-15
The only red flag for women is FACE. That's why they send loveletters to good looking murderers and psychopaths in jail. Look at all the Tinder experiments (Atomic blackpill), look up the halo and failo effect. As long as you're good looking as a male, you van het away with everything. FACE is the only thing that counts for women. Period. And yes, I generalize. That's the way scientists do it.
1 dylang92 2018-05-15
I don’t think they necessarily think ugly men will be doomed to be alone, but rather they will just never get casual sex or hookup with women. They see lots of people, especially in college engaging in this, and they want to be a part of it.