It’s not about getting laid, it’s about being marginalized socially based on our sexual attractiveness.

123  2018-05-15 by Pantycel

Why can’t people understand that?

I’m consistently underemployed and socially outcast at work because I’m ugly.

I’m not less capable of being a friend yet I’m prejudged to be a creep because I’m ugly.

I am not any less of a human just because you don’t want to fuck me.

72 comments

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This sub is the funniest sub out of all Reddit. JFL, at women who say that they appreciate humor and intelligence.

Yeah that's bs lie told by them.they give no shits about personality.

Tarzan is a feral human who doesn't know any language and yet Jane wanted to fuck him. Now if Tarzan looked like a typical normie or an incel Timothy then the British Dad would have shot him.

And Quasimodo never got the girl

If you think this is the funniest subreddit then you have a severely distorted idea of what humor is.

I'm sure your memes about how dumb and shallow "femoids" are will have that girl rolling on the floor on your first date.

Go back to IncelTears where you belong.

The amount of time you spend here is the cringiest thing I've ever seen on this sub. Please keep pretending you're a normie lul

I figure most here just wanna get laid

XD

This sub is more about lookism more than finding ways to get laid.

Shut up little man

What hurts you?

Sorry I didn’t mean it, just have a good personality and the right women will look your way. Don’t be like the misogynists on here won’t do you any good.

Oh great. Now you sound like a meme. Tell you what, I can't do anything due to my 5'3" height which is repulsive to women in general.

I’ve seen plenty of short men with girlfriends. Not to mention being short gives you an advantage of not seeming so intimidating to girls so it is easier for you to chat them up

BS. Let me be. I know it's already over for me. You told me to shut up little man. You hate short men!!!

Use Angus Young as a role model. Short. Ugly as sin. Worked on a skill til he got good at it. Is no longer ostracized.

I rather be myself than Angus Young. Being cute imo is better than having status and money. I am basically Chad amongst turbomanlets only.

Please understand, but I never seen a man who surpasses me in facial looks who is around my height. I would be considered a normie if I were 5' 10".

You said little man yourself you stupid fuck. But he could be so sexy and slay? So why is little an insult.

Lol you’re so full of shit. You literally opened up by mocking him for his height for absolutely no reason and now you go and tell him that his height isn’t a big deal?

I've seen plenty of idiots too. You're one of them

I started laughing when he said "Shut up, little man" It proves how people don't really take manlets seriously in society

Comments like that, even if they're jokes, will be perceived by most incels as mockery and cruelty. Some incels take remarks like that very seriously, and they'll dwell on them and think of them as further evidence that most people despise them, and despise them for their appearance. Frankly, I was quite taken aback at your comment myself. Hitting someone where it hurts most isn't cool. (But it's not like I'm a saint myself, so who am I to talk?)

lol little man nobody takes you seriously.

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My man you just need a good personality like me and girls will start liking you.

Anyways, why do you want me to shut up? I belong here, you toxic misandrist.

Aww, the wittle meany incels making you angwy?

Yikes

What i greatest crave is being capable of getting out of my house without being looked on as an walking abomination by the 95% of woman and the 50% percent of man alike, fuck, forced ostracization really fucks your mind off.

The post in general and this comment specifically just took the knife, stabbed me in the heart and twisted.

Too.

Goddamn.

Real.

this is what normies dont understand, we cant do shit about it and the hatred we get on a daily basis is fucking us up. we cant escape it.

They don't understand how ugly and doomed we are

Fakecels who keep posting their pics don't help either

Get out and meet people then and show them your fun side. Sitting stewing about it isn't going to get people to notice you.

HAHAHHAHAAH

I remember when she posted a thread yesterday about how she comes here to listen and learn from the people on here, and then posts this garbage less than 24h later

you expect a foid to be capable of learning?

she's here because she's a 40+ year old post wall mentally ill ugly woman, she's here to nurse a mentalcel chad back to health so she can bring him to live with her in her catpiss apartment.

Out in the real world low-tier normies still get more female attention than even the most attractive mentalcel. There are no mentalcel chads, just fakecels who think mild anxiety makes them a mentalcel.

agreeably so, but even the hypothetical idea of a mentalcel chad is enough for this hambeast to invade this space -_-

after all, she's clearly not here to make an actual effort to understand. -_-

I've listened. I've learned. I know people need to get out and get some friends. Proper friends aren't concerned with looks.

This is so dumb. How the fuck could I have a fun side?! Get out WHERE?! And do what?! You really really really don't get this shit man.

It wasn't aimed at you.

Who was it aimed at?

The OP, obviously, given that he's already said he is a funny person.

I do agree,I got a great sense of humor. Hell I try to laugh much as possible. Some of most funniest comedians really have depression.

It's really not, it's about whether you're fun to be around, put out a good energy. Not this crybaby, I'm ugly, low self-esteem bullshit. You guys sit here and make fun of yourselves constantly. You also wish death on other people because they were born better- looking. These are horrible traits to have, and self-sabotaging to be honest. Embrace who the fuck you are and build on your strengths. It's impossible not to. I see ugly people with good looking people all the time. Stop making excuses and grow the fuck up.

Chicken and egg. Fun to be around requires confidence that has most likely been demolished, and with no hope of coming back. Try being 'fun' when you're like that.

I see stupid people all the time, as evidenced right now

So you're solution is to sit around and complain? Confidence can be built through developing a skill. Confidence doesn't directly come from looks. Labeling theory in crime suggests that if you call a kid a bad kid, it becomes a self- fulfilling prophecy. Your mind is completely warped with negative thoughts about yourself, so just imagine what a piece of shit you'll be over time if you keep up this mentality. Yet, you want to reject real criticism and call me stupid? If you do the same thing you've always done, expect the same results you've always received.

You know nothing about me. I have more skills than you, am smarter than you and could split your head. Do you think this subreddit is a group consciousness where every person is responsible for the rhetoric?

You are stupid as fuck coming in here with your worthless platitudes and expecting to change anything. Get a grip

Split my head? Is this the part where you snap and turn into Edmund Kemper and murder a bunch of women or drive a van through a bunch of people because they won't have consensual sex with a crybaby?

No I'm just letting you know that no matter which way you try to insult me it won't work - because I'm better than you in every way

He's trying to tell you that true confidence and happiness comes from inside, not from external validation. Good it's a start with you thinking your better then him because even though it's really fucking arrogant to say, it's still positive.

The problem is you guys think so negatively about everything and then expect positive results. This isn't how it works in life, positivity breeds more positivity, whatever you focus on grows. You focus on your lack of looks or lack of women, your gunna feel like shit, and get shit results. You get off this forum and start focusing on work, progress, not comparing yourself to others, and find gratitude over the littlest things is when life will begin to change.

Lol

You focus on your lack of looks or lack of women, your gunna feel like shit, and get shit results.

Chicken and the egg, dipshit. Which came first?

Go out for halloween dressed as an egg so nobody can see your face. Find a woman dressed as a chicken. Ask her who she thinks will cum first?

Go away.

You go away, you won't get laid on here bud lol

No shit. That's what I have my gf for (a relationship I only got into after getting my face fixed).

Now go away.

Or just revert to your usual tactics and say "you owe me sex because you were born with a vagina and I'm FUCKING NICE GOD DAMN BITCH!!!" with rage in your eyes.

You going to throw some more accusatory bullshit my way, asswipe?

Read the flair.

Once you fucking weirdos started attacking me for giving real advice is when you turned me into a heartless cunt. If you guys could have an intellectual discussion, I wouldn't care to troll you. You do it to yourselves

Once you fucking weirdos started attacking me for giving real advice is when you turned me into a heartless cunt.

I didn't do jackshit so you're being an utter cunt for no reason. Good on you.

If you guys could have an intellectual discussion, I wouldn't care to troll you.

I don't have intellectual discussions with cunts.

You do it to yourselves

Repeat, I didn't do jackshit. Keep up with the accusatory bullshit and you can take a break from the sub if that's what you want.

I won't be back here don't worry, It's been an amusing week after discovering what an Incel is all about but I'm starting to feel like a loser by association. Every day is a pity party on this sub. I'll get less pussy just by letting any of this bullshit into my subconscious. Take care Vol-Cels.

I won't be back here

Trust me, I'm making sure of that.

Every day is a pity party on this sub. I'll get less pussy just by letting any of this bullshit into my subconscious.

And more accusatory bullshit. Strike three, bye.

Just letting you know that you're also posting here. Which by your logic means that you're just as capable at doing the things you've described

I'm not trying to insult you, it's called constructive criticism. You're just being defensive and sensitive about it, which is fine. You're frustrated, I get it. Your entire existence and well being is dependent on one thing: being desired by another person. The second you stop blaming it on external sources and focus inwards is the day your life will begin to change. You're the one threatening to assault me and claiming you're better in every way. So, if that's the case, sorry for attempting to give advice but this is why you're not succeeding.

You are insulting me by offering worthless platitudes and offering this disgusting rhetoric. I have spent a lot of time on improving myself; and improved I have.

My entire existence is not dependant on that one thing thank you. Stop projecting yourself onto me. I live for my work and my passions.

I do not apologise for desiring a mate as to do so is human, and I do not wish to treat myself as a non-human. I will reserve that treatment for hypocrites and abusers which you've shown yourself to be.

that's fantastic, If what you just said is true, you should have no issues, take care of yourself

If what you just said is true, you should have no issues

....aaaaand that is where you're wrong.

They're all unimaginative, heartless fucks

It's not constructive. You just simply don't get it. You never got it. You've never had a friend like me, never had a family a close family member like me. If you did, you'd get it.

I just discovered Reddit not long ago and kept seeing the word Incel, so I had to research it. I watched documentary recommended called shy boys. I was hooked then I got sucked into the depressing rabbit hole of incels and find it fascinating. So when stuff pops up in my news feed, sometimes I feel compelled to give advice. I'm married with 2 kids on modified duties at work with nothing better to do right now

This, what you'r doing here, is not advice.

Comparing an anonymous person on Reddit to a mass murderer is not "constructive criticism." It doesn't matter whether he made a violent threat -- you know it's idle, since you're anonymous to him as well. (I'm not excusing the threat; there are people out there who would take that seriously and be frightened. However, I'm willing to bet you aren't one of them, and I'm not of the mind that two wrongs usually make a right.)

Some incels are very sensitive to both overt and implied insults. And the comment I'm replying to is definitely stuffed with overt insults. I don't see how you can claim that you weren't trying to insult him when you implied that he's going to turn into masss murderer or serial killer, and called him a crybaby.

The "because they won't have consensual sex" part may be true for the person you're talking to, but a lot of incels actually aren't focused just on sex. It's something else. Think about it. If all they wanted was sex, they could go to a prostitute or escort (but even ones who can afford it often refuse). If all they wanted was an orgasm, they could masturbate. For these incels, I think the issue is often about feeling loved, wanted, and validated.

Sometimes, I have to be harsh to get a point across because putting it lightly doesn't seem to work. The issue is nobody can love want or validate anybody else until you do it yourself. The biggest turn off is somebody who is sulking in misery with no ambition or self-respect. Why choose the ugly depressed guy when there are plenty of ugly happy guys to choose from.

The issue is nobody can love want or validate anybody else until you do it yourself. The biggest turn off is somebody who is sulking in misery with no ambition or self-respect.

Are you new here? Do you need to be reminded of the way women act around attractive guys with awful personalities?

The problem with incels is they interacted with 3 women their whole life, and then generalize an entire gender thinking every woman must think that way. Then they retreat to their room and spend hours and hours on reddit judging themselves, and chads, and stacies, and normies, and tyrones and whoever else you include in your little made up vocabulary. You sit there in fear judging everyone negatively, until you're depressed and then blame everything on your shitty looks or shitty social skills with no ambition to work on these things. It's not all about looks, but go ahead and stick with your "limiting" beliefs about life. It's pathetic.

solution is to get far right sharia law in place

Confidence comes from social success. And what if those negative thoughts are measurably accurate? The fact is you need a string of events in your life that has to happen in order to become normal. The more you miss the farther you become from when is considered socially acceptable.

depends on how ugly and we will always be at the bottom of everything

hunter eyes = fun to be around

How on earth would we able to be fun around? Or to "put out good energy"?! All our lives we've been bullied and made fun of, while even the smallest normal interactions fail because of the lack of social skills and anxiety that has been put on us by society... Maybe we don't really have strengths. Maybe our past experiences make it impossible to act in a way that can make people even for a minute believe we're normal.

You learn not to give a fuck what others think. That's dependency on external sources for validation. Validation comes from within. Embrace what you've been given. If it's not look you can improve, improve personality, physical health, mental health, style, the way you treat people. Travel, get experiences, learn shit. I had severe social anxiety for about a year when I switched jobs. It goes away over time. I get you've been conditioned to be negative, in a sense, but at the same time, you can take a new approach and rewire your brain. Try becoming dependent on only yourself on happiness for a little while. Do things that your future self would thank you for. Eat something healthy today, maybe a little exercise, read a book, join a new hobby. Just take one small step at a time. You'll be surprised how quickly you develop momentum, and begin to enjoy taking care of yourself. That leads to self-worth. That will give you a more confident look in your eyes and a different energy. Sitting around in misery is counterproductive.

No, validation comes from social success. It's what society puts on you. I know it's cool to act like you don't care what people think. But you do. Maybe no consciously, but it still drives you actions.

improve personality

That is exactly what I'm talking about. To have a personality improvement you need willing participants to interact with. Some of us, like me, have never EVER had that. I am simply not capable of that "because of the lack of social skills and anxiety that has been put on us by society".

Travel, get experiences, learn shit.

How the fuck could I travel? When I can't even do the most basic things socially? Get what experience? "Got to a place to stand around, not look at people(because you can't) don't talk to people(because you can't), and then forget about it in a month anyway(because your memory is crap)?

Fact: I never had normal real life conversation. I can't even begin to imagine what people say to each other when they "hang out"(or even what that really means).

I had severe social anxiety for about a year when I switched jobs

I've had severe never ending social anxiety for all my life. I'm also 26 and never had a job because of it.

Eat something healthy today

Been doing that half my life.

maybe a little exercise

You can check my post history for nudes. I'm in a decent shape. I've been exercising all my life(only ever at home, I'd never ever ever ever ever excessive around other people)

read a book, join a new hobby

Don't like reading books, I have trouble following them, because I' simply don't care what they're about. Never had a hobby. I don't even know what it really is.

You'll be surprised how quickly you develop momentum

I did that stuff, I don't gain any momentum. it only ever gets worse. Just more and more proof for my subhuman nature with "one small step at a time" lol.

Sitting around in misery is counterproductive.

It's also the only thing that doesn't make things worse. I have a lifetime of irrefutable proof.

I just realized that most Incels are basically Volcels that need hours and hours extensive counseling. My brother lives in my moms basement and has excuse after excuse of why he can't hand out resumes and get a job. Talking to him is like talking to a brick wall, and so is talking to incels. Suit yourself and complain and make excuses your whole life. You're a misery addict.

I don't have excuses. I have facts. Trial and error. I can't "send out resumes and get a job" because I can't do interviewees. I can't look people in the eye. I can't talk to people. My mind literally goes blank and no sound comes out. That is what happens when you're forbidden to interact with people as a child and your parents don't even talk to you.

I have never had a conversation in real life. Not about anything. And you expect me to be able to do ANY of these?! I don't know the words to use.

Counseling is not a thing outside of the western world.

Well I am sorry for your misfortune, I don't really know what else to say. I just know spreading negativity, and demolishing your own self worth is not the answer. Hopefully, you find love in the future.

So what you're saying is that life isn't fair?

What an amazing new concept you've stumbled onto! Everything you've said can basically be said about lower class people the world over. I volunteer with homeless ppl and they don't bitch half as much as y'all do.

Dude it’s just low hanging fruit at this point for you, huh? Not sure what’s more pathetic, the guys on the internet who whine and complain about not getting laid, or the dude who spends all his time going to their subreddit to harass them.

See, I don’t get it.

I’m sorry. Guess I’m a Normie and Tyrone. I play FFXIV and have a Switch and PS4, I friend request people who I like and I don’t know what they life is like but when we play games or talk on discord. I don’t think “oh what if he a creep and ugly?” I go to anime conventions and comics cons and have have a really good experience and time with the so co creepy and ugly guys. Not once did I say “what a ugly MF”

I’m sure I get a lot of hate from people who hate black people but that doesn’t matter to me. So are you letting those people dictate your life? Cuz I get it, I wouldn’t want to constantly have people say this “nigger....” but at the same time I’m like fuck them call me a nigger, call me stupid it’s my life and I love it regardless of what people say.

Yes. Exactly this. People need to have fun again and stop worrying about everything. Do what you love and take things for what they are.

Most things in life come unexpected.

Do what you love and take things for what they are.

But what if never has ever been much fun? What if you've been humiliated, made fun of, and bullied all your life? To the point where you can't develop hobbies and interests?

Kids are shit. And we all find friends online to talk, play and chat with.

School isnt everything.

hahahaha, school? You think I'm talking about school? You really have no idea about what true social outcast if like haha

You are not the fucking hunchback of notre dame. Yes, I don't know what you life's like (I guess you are talking about yourself anyway) however, I was bullied, never had friends (I still just have one friend). But I found my way. Stayed true to myself and kinda pulled through. I got my hobbies and a job I like. I am not leading the perfect life but I am happy and I am proud of myself because I stayed true like a wolf wearing wolf-pants.

Then you just shouldn't talk about this stuff. I'm 26 and I never had job or a hobbies because my mind literately stopping me from that.

I never had a single real life social interaction go well all my life.

Then how do you live? How do you earn money for rent, food or leisure?

What do you do every day?

Then how do you live?

Live with parents.

How do you earn money for rent, food or leisure?

I don't. Also, I don't have "leisure" lol.

What do you do every day?

Nothing. I reddit. Look at stuff. Go to sleep. Repeat. I'm never bored, when you grow up without stimulation, you never get bored. You only get bored because a normal childhood makes you expect to do stuff. When your mind and body doesn't expect that, boredom is an impossibility.

nice.

I gotta say you write quite good. And you stayed polite even though I was kinda a douche.

Thank you for the answers. I think I won't post anymore on this sub :x

Nevermind. Checked your profil and saw your nudes. You're fake as fuck.

Fake? How so?

You write good and have a decent body + a good clothing style. No way any of the shit you replied is true.

Yes, cheap H&M shirts are a "good clothing style" lol. I've been exercising most of my life. I'm still only 145lbs and 5'8". What an achievement.

Of course I write good. Written English is my only form of communication. It says nothing about my life-long anxiety or complete lack of IRL social skills. Or that I can't formulate normal sentences in real life(especially not in my native, which English is not)

What's wrong with H&M lol :D

Then get a job or a hobby where you have to write stuff or communicate with people online... If you even want a job.

Use your strenghts and the stuff you "learned" in front of the PC/Smartphone

What's wrong with H&M lol :D

H&M makes low quality, at best edgy-boring clothes on the back of modern day slave labor.

Goes to Reddit

Only post on incel stuff

Clams he loves nothing. No hobbies or interests

Yeah he’s fake

To me it's about getting laid tbqh

Get a prostitute then

also being laid tho

humans need touch

Honestly actual sex is terrifying, and no way I could go through with it. I'd probably have a heart attack. I want the social acceptance part of it. Honestly, if I could meet a chick who asexual and get in a kind of relationship with her, it'd be the biggest relief to hear I won't have to have sex.

When you can't even betabux because you don't meet the looks threshold to have your efforts rewarded professionally

I just realized that most Incels are basically Volcels that need hours and hours extensive counseling. My brother lives in my moms basement and has excuse after excuse of why he can't hand out resumes and get a job. Talking to him is like talking to a brick wall, and so is talking to incels. Suit yourself and complain and make excuses your whole life. You're a misery addict.

Well I am sorry for your misfortune, I don't really know what else to say. I just know spreading negativity, and demolishing your own self worth is not the answer. Hopefully, you find love in the future.

What's wrong with H&M lol :D

Then get a job or a hobby where you have to write stuff or communicate with people online... If you even want a job.

Use your strenghts and the stuff you "learned" in front of the PC/Smartphone