Reminder that you can groom yourself, get a nice haircut, get good hygiene, but next to guy with superior genetics you will ALWAYS look like shit.

161  2018-05-14 by INCELMAN2000

197 comments

The guy on the left looks photoshopped

I really hole he is

Nope. His name is nick Bateman.

framepill

A huge amount of male models and guys in that business use small amounts of steroids. Not saying that guy takes steroids.. but when you take a light dose of steroids your shoulders start popping and your back widens out. You start looking 2x as big even on a small dose.

I think that guys shoulders look gross tbh. Like someone pumped air into them

Cope

That's fair

youll take a narrow shouldered dude with bad posture over a broad shouldered dude

They're both in the exact same pose though like the only difference is one's way bigger

Hes not on steroids, his shoulders aren’t big (delts) it’s his clavicle that is very large and usually this is associated with being tall (frame). That’s why you sometimes see 6’2+ guys who still have a shit frame because they have a small clavicle. (Source I’m into bodybuilding)

There are different doses of steroids people take. Not everyone is Bradley Martin. I'm knowledgeable about bodybuilding and work in the fitness Industry so that's how I know this. He's likely on a very low dose of steroids. His shoulders are huge compared to anyone who isn't a bodybuilder and that's a fact.

Ok man. I’m on steroids I’m not some retard. Could he be on a low dose of steroids possibly? sure. However stop saying his shoulders are large from steroids. His clavicle is large making him look broad. You cannot change your bones from steroids. His delts are small. His arms are small. He does not look like he’s on steroids and if he was on it would be absolutely pointless to do any steroids in low dose because unless he cruises which is already a low dose of test he would shrink right the fuck back up in PCT and he’s already small as fuck so.

You sound jealous of the male model, this is some of the hardest coping I've ever seen on reddit before. I guess that's why this is the incel subreddit. Stick some more needles in your ass to make up for a tiny dick and low-T, lmfao.

You sound salty I called your unknowledgeable ass out and now have nothing to back yourself up. Lol my tiny dick? All I said was a grower and the fact you have to go into my post history shows how you already lost this argument BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW SHIT!!

As a fellow gymcel AAScel it's clear you're correct here. This is one of the most infuriating things about the blackpill; the average person can't see human attractiveness analytically enough to understand what we're saying. In this case it's as clear as day that the man in the photo simply has especially long clavicles which give him a fantastic shoulder-to-hip ratio. Normcucks cannot see this. There is no point talking to them on this topic. They are so inferior in this regard that it prevents them from comprehending their own inferiority.

Sometimes it just gets to me and I have to say something man... I know I know don’t argue with people who don’t even lift because they think they know everything, when they’ve been lifting for a year lol. The less you know the more you think you know, and the more you know you realize you know less.

https://ibb.co/eomLiy

^ that's a quick sketch overlaid on the image of Chad.

Red dot is his acromion process, the outermost aspect of the collarbone. Yellow is collarbone proper. These dots show the narrowest his shoulders could possibly be, that is, if he had all the soft tissue removed from his skeleton.

If he never exercised a day in his life, his shoulder would extend to the purple line courtesy of the bulk provided by the tendons of the rotator cuff, the deltoid and the overlying connective tissues + skin.

So, his gym efforts have given him exactly what? One centimetre of shoulder width on each side? Would this man be considered to have narrow shoulders if he'd never picked up a weight? Can he claim ANY responsibility at all for his shoulder width?

...and STILL normscum will claim this man's physique is fantastic because of his own efforts in the gym. Normcucks are literally subhuman.

Meanwhile us with average clavicles and height have to actually work our entire shoulder especially sides and rear just to appear wide... genetics are everything

It's over

It never began

clavicle

I'm not an Incel. But I'm 6'1" with a shit frame, tiny clavicle for sure.

For most of my adult life I was literally between 50-55KG (110-120lb). However, the last few years I put on some weight and now I look a bit more normal (75-80KG, 165-175lb).

I'm just starting to go to the gym now, hopefully to put on a little muscle. Unfortunately too much of my new weight is just a fucking gut from being an alcoholic.

Buuuuut - my face and shit does look a lot better now. I was seriously underweight before.

As a tall guy the number one thing you’ve got to remember is to keep your mental spirits up, because it’s going to be unfair. Your 5 pounds of muscle you gain is not going to be as noticeable as a man inches shorter than you. But i’m saying that because you have to keep at it and not get discouraged. You have to keep it in the back of your mind it’s still worth it to workout even if your physique isn’t looking as amazing as you’d like after your newb gains.

Thanks man! I appreciate it!

Regarding r/fitness - will do, thanks for the tip!

Really... interesting.. just .. checking for a friend, you know.

Cope

He has a large clavicle which is common in taller people and the taller you are the more likely it’ll be bigger but not always the case (aka genetic lottery still plays a part)

It's called going to the gym you dumb soyboy, maybe if you didn't have so much estrogen in your veins you would know what a muscle looks like

I don't really understand the point of this picture (like most incel things) since the guy on the left is still more than good looking enough to get laid regularly, or find a 'normal' woman to be in a stable relationship with, depending on what he's after. He reminds me of E from Entourage (maybe partially because he looks so small next to the Chad guy) and I knew several girls who thought that actor was cute.

I thought the whole damn point of being an incel is that cruel fate has decreed that you can't get laid *at all*. Not, 'life is so unfair, if I clean myself up I'll only get laid every week, unlike Hulk-Chad who gets laid every day!' If you look like the guy on the left and you aren't a total weirdo you'll do fine with girls.

Guy on the left's feelings towards guy on the right for winning the genetic lottery are likely similar to those of a guy making 100k a year towards a guy who won the real lottery - yeah maybe you're a bit jealous, but it doesn't suddenly make your life shit. Am I missing something here?

It's showing that no matter what we do, we'll never be good enough. Even if we looksmaxed tot he extreme, we'd still get cucked by foids who want Chad.

cucked

cope

> It's showing that no matter what we do, we'll never be good enough.

Good enough for what? To get laid? That dude can definitely get laid. Or is it about relationships? You're not actually sad enough to think that every guy who looks like the dude on the left is inevitably going to be cheated on, are you?

It's showing that no matter what we do, we'll never be good enough. Even if we looksmaxed tot he extreme, we'd still get cucked by foids who want Chad.

That guy would get cucked by the Chad mogging him if he was in a relationship.

Ok, so you do actually think this:

> every guy who looks like the dude on the left is inevitably going to be cheated on

So my next question then is, how can you think this despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary? The millions of average-looking guys (and due in the pic is above-average btw) who have perfectly happy lives with women they love?

I'll go back to my original point: if you look like the guy in the pic you can get laid on the regular or be in a loving relationship (no guarantee, but if you can't find love it won't necessarily be because of your looks). Millions of guys prove this to be true day in day out.

every guy who looks like the dude on the left is inevitably going to be cheated on

Not every guy. But most of them, yeah.

So my next question then is, how can you think this despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary? The millions of average-looking guys (and due in the pic is above-average btw) who have perfectly happy lives with women they love?

They get cheated on, but never find out. Women settle for a beta cuck for his money, but still dream about and crave Chads. The moment they have an opportunity to fuck a Chad, they do it.

I'll go back to my original point: if you look like the guy in the pic you can get laid on the regular or be in a loving relationship (no guarantee, but if you can't find love it won't necessarily be because of your looks). Millions of guys prove this to be true day in day out.

If I looksmaxed, i'd still get cucked. Just like that guy would've gotten cucked if his gf was in a room alone with the Chad on the right.

It's insane! Chad looks like a freaking giant lol! Loads of good-looking dudes, who frequently get laid, would be "mogged" by this cunt.

I'd like to know each of their dimensions (height, etc)

First off he probably started off tall (genetics), ate right, became a gymrat early in life, and maybe did some steroids along the way.

Translation :

" I TRIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FAR IN THE END IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER. I HAD TO FALL TO LOSE IT ALL".

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Fuck off with this normie bullshit.

lmao

So glad someone noticed this

THESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEAL

sad incel hours

SKIN

THESE

He knew to rope.

Even Chester decided to end it all...

Too soon😯

Every step that i take is another mistake to you

its over

Mogged to the depths of hell. That guy spontaneously combusted later that night

Mogged out of existence

Guys with "inferior" genetics get pussy too. If they didn't there would be no "inferior" genetics in our gene pool. Grooming yourself and maximizing your appearance only helps your chances.

nope. women are to blame for inferior genetics. They all go for Chad (who has superior genetics) so when chad pump and dumps the whole neighborhood its the ugly women the cause the next gen of incels

Arnold Schwarzenegger's son with his attractive ex-wife is an nonathletic fatty with man boobs. His illegitimate son with an ugly Mexican is attractive and athletic.

Your theory doesn't hold up.

fatty with man boobs

Hes volcel than for being fat

His illegitimate son with an ugly Mexican is attractive and athletic.

If you look at individual cases than its left up to chance, but In a macro scale the theory is true

Nope. He's incel because his genetics suck and those are the cards he was dealt. Self improvement is a scam and will only make you feel worse.

"but In a macro scale the theory is true"

Prove it.

My theory doesnt hold up in the middle east or india because their is no sexual selection their.

But in the west due to hypergamy and free sexual market all women date up no matter how ugly they are.

So ultimately they are the driving force behind the next gen of incels.

Also you have to consider than makeup and plastic surgery can make women look attractive to Chad but she could still have subhuman genetics.

That's not proof, that's just you expanding on your unproven idea.

Is that who does your thinking for you?

yes science

"gibb me sources"

Okay here

"durrrr is this who does your thinking for you"

Look, if you understood what "sources" mean in a conversation about anthropology and genetics you'd know that "browse /r/blackpillscience" is not a source or proof of a claim. Not only do I think it's unsupported but I don't think the person this guy understands his claim well enough to scrutinize it, hence why I accuse him of not thinking for himself.

He was married because of status

Who? Arnie?

Now switch their heads

I prefer the guy on the left.

Guy on the right looks like a fucking cartoon character.

teehee

Yeah yeah, I know, im a lying piece of shit.

At least you're self aware.

:)

That’s a load of crap lol. You know how fast you’d drop your panties if the guy on the right started hitting on you.

Nope.

A lot of women would, yeah, but hes not my type at all.

Hypergamy in 2018 lol. Reddit landwhale would refuse to date ripped 9.9/10 gigachad because he isn’t attractive enough for her.

You can attack me all you like, doesnt change the fact that I dont find over-the-top muscular men attractive.

The guy on the left is still great looking, whats wrong with him?

You calling the guy on the right over the top muscular is goddamn hilarious. I guarantee you are an obese landwhale.

Is he not? That dudes beefy as fuck. Guess I dont live in a city with a lot of men like that, because I rarely see anyone that large in real life.

Curious why you can guarantee im an obese landwhale based on what I said?

Is it unfathomable that a woman would prefer a thinner man?

The dude is at most in shape and hits the gym a couple times a week, over the top muscular is like 250-300 pounds 5%-8% body fat and that shit is rare as fuck. As the guy below me said he is way out of your league and that is the only reason you say you prefer the skinny little shit on the left.

Hey man she's right some women arent into that. I also prefer the body type she described over really muscular or large guys like the one on the the right. Its just a personal preference of mine and this other womans. And also how does that make her fat???? If i agree with her am i automatically fat too?

I can understand how you would find some pro bodybuilders unattractive due to their unusual bodies. But the right guy is just in shape and tall/broad-shouldered. You’re just coping because he is out of your range.

He is out of my range, youre not wrong there.

If in an alternate reality I were to have my pick of the top most attractive men I would pick, say, a thinner surfer body over the body builder type.

Many young women seek validation hard (bad home life growing up, bad father, etc.) and jump into bed with super hot men because they think it raises their worth and makes them feel pretty. They spend years afterwards chasing that "chad" dragon, thinking because they were once with a 10 they can always get a 10, overlooking the fact that that young chad was just using them.

Im old enough and experienced enough to know that if a dude out of my range is hitting on me, something's up and his intensions are shit. I prefer men in my range. Plus I doubt I would have anything in common with a gym rat.

Sorry for the long comment, I just smoked a bowl and got to thinking :)

Idk who to believe.

Don't you think that's just your ego protecting itself? You're making all these assumptions about this guy solely based on his looks. First you said you don't find him good looking, but now you're saying that he's too good looking for you. Which one is it?

Both?

I could even say the fact that he's too good looking for me is a reason I don't find him good looking. I genuinely prefer men in my league so much that I dont even consider people above it as sexual interests at all. It makes life so much easier. However I am a little older, the lust for "chad" is stronger in younger women.

And I am making assumptions about this dude, you're right. When I see a man like that I assume he spends a lot of time at the gym, I assume he is interested in entirely different things and walks an entirely different path in life. These assumptions make him unattractive to me, personally. We are just too different, socially and on the surface to even try.

Which isnt to say its impossible for two people that are very different to be in a relationship, it just takes more work to make two completely different walks of life harmonize.

And also, like I said before, If in a magical land I had my pic of all the 10's out there (like if I were a 10 myself), I would choose an entirely different body type and look.

There are a lot of reasons at play.

I don’t think your looks are your problem, if you called a woman fat because she didn’t apply to your theory then it’s probably down to your personality that you’re a 30 year old virgin. Christ. And you have the nerve to blame others for your celibacy? Grow up.

I totally agree. Nothing worse than a guy who spends all his time lifting weights and drinking protein shakes.

T. A landwhale.

Lol nope. Not even close.

It’s just that I’ve known Guys like that - the only way someone can get that big is by spending hours upon hours at the gym and blowing their paychecks at GNC. I’d much rather be with a guy who I can hang back and watch Rick and Morty with. To tell the truth, the guy on the right kind of looks like he has acromegaly.

Not even close.

I bet

How is that even a response? Seriously?

That pic is tru

Im super stoned and that video just gave me the nostalgia feels. Thank you.

I know this picture might be discouraging for some of you incels, but you please do not lose faith in hygiene.

Washing and bathing are the most important ways of maintain good health and protecting ourselves from infections, illnesses and ailments. Maintaining cleanliness is also important for our self-confidence, physical and emotional well-being. The main purpose of washing is to remove dirt and odours [1]

But, be careful, Showering too much can mess with your skin, and even the way your body functions. The microbiome is the collection of bacteria, archeae, viruses, and other microbes that live in and on your body. We know that these little foreign critters are deeply important to your health. Without them, your immune system, digestion, and even your heart would lose function or fail entirely. [2]

Scientists say morning showers are actually better for you due to some interesting health benefits. Morning showers improve your blood’s circulation. The running water causes your blood to rush to your skins surface. Good blood circulation plays an important role in our health. Proper blood circulation contributes to the transferring of nutrients to ample parts of your body. When your body is lacking good circulation, conditions caused by trapped adverse molecules form. Some of these conditions include hypertension and varicose veins. This is why hydrotherapy, a therapeutic use of water, is a common tool to improve blood circulation. [3] Also look at the foods you eat. Food doesn't only affect how you eat, but also how perfumes soaks into your skin. Eating fresh foods, such as fruits, vegetable, and proteins, are idea to have a nice smell. Sugared drinks can also affect how you smell, especially the processed that is the reaches the pores. A sour smell is not nice. [4]

1) hygieneexpert.co.uk - Washing and Bathing

2) businessinsider.com -You're probably showering way too often

3) aromasenseusa.com - the importance of morning showers

4) vix.com - 11 secrets people who always smell good

You've gotta be a special kind of stupid to think people are gonna stop showering because of a meme.

I've started showering 10 times per day due to normy advice

Not special, that's just typical normie stupidity.

Kek.

Showers will give us chad faces foh sure nibba

You don’t need citations to claim that you should shower lol. We do already.

Lol? You actually think we stop grooming and showering because of this post?

U really typed all that retarded shit out?

Holy fuck, and this is coming from someone with an IQ of 90.

High IQ comment

Uhm you really think people here do not shower? This joke in the picture is ridiculing people who give advice that "taking a shower will fix all your problems" Ofcourse we bathe we're not fucking savages.

I hope you're just baiting people, otherwise you're just being a dick

Yeah y'all need to wash your asses

giga-chad

You're really into dudes, aren't you?

Homophobe

Jackass

Loser

Lol

The fallacy here is you believe one has "better" genetics than the other and that attractiveness is purely an objective thing with metrics you can universally apply. Despite how much incels are told this by just about everyone who isn't incel, you refuse to accept it. Despite there being plenty of real world examples in the majority of human relationships, you just won't listen.

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Dude I'm not even gay or bi but it's obvious any girl would choose the guy on the right over the guy on the left.

I'll put this in terms you can understand since you are a kid. On the left, you have a dusty N64 and the only game it comes with is Pilotwings. On the right, you have a video game store. Understand now?

Unless you can read the minds of all women on the planet, I'm calling bullshit. Last girlfriend I had wanted me to stop working out cuz I'd get "all muscly" and she didn't like that.

There's nothing obvious about anything you said, including that shit analogy you attempted to couch your bullshit in. This is simply the lens incels like to view the world through so they can justify their terrible behavior.

Now give me my downvote, bitch.

Have you considered that maybe she didn't want you to get "all muscly" for fear that you might leave her for a hotter option.

I was about to comment that. It’s the female version of mate guarding.

She was pretty hot so, doubt it.

I have to say, I am definitely not an incel. I know theres a lot of those "I'm what you would call a chad" memes going around, but in my case it's actually true. The reason I posted the comment I did was not because I'm a deciple of the blackpill but mostly because I was surprised no one had raised the point yet and wanted to move the conversation along. This is hands down my favorite subreddit; The memes are hilarious, and the truth of some of the observations made here can be witnessed in everyday life. Wristcells is dumb as hell though. Anyways, the thing I find most annoying about this sub, is when dudes like you come in with your anecdotal, "exception to the rule" arguments and think your doing something good or productive. Don't bring that weak stuff in here. You're not saying anything new, or adding to the conversation, and the fact that you got any upvotes for your lack luster comments seems to have less to do with you making a point and more to do with people trying to upvotes the truth away so they don't have to acknowledge it. There is no power in denial, If you're truly interested in helping anyone ever, have a real honest dialogue about these clear patterns in society and stop throwing anomalies at it. To me, denying the experience incels today is akin being white and denying that there was white privilege, (not the idea that all whites have privilege, just the idea that all whites have the privilege of being white,) in the 60's. Ultimately you make this place less entertaining and useful.

Anyways, the thing I find most annoying about this sub, is when dudes like you come in with your anecdotal, "exception to the rule" arguments and think your doing something good or productive.

It may be anecdoctal, but it's far from an exception to the rule. Denial is the insistence that attractiveness can be measured in pure, well defined metrics. Denial is the compartmentalization of two sexes into specific categories. Denial is the assurance that you know everything about how women think, but can't seem to get laid by one. Denial is the refusal to see reality for what it is, and self reflect.

And please stop comparing incels to blacks. I am black, so you don't bring that weak shit in here. I give not a single fuck about your entertainment.

First of all, I never compared being incel to being black, don't think I ever mentioned the word black. I did however compared the denial of the incel experience to the denial of white privilege. Since you decided to bring it up though, I'm also black; not that it has anything to do with the point. If it makes you more comfortable though, I'll compare them to the homeless unless you're also that. Over half the homeless population is mentally ill, telling them to "just get a job" is like telling an ugly high schooler shit like work on your personality, when there personality is just fine. That's how you create some of the really fucked up dudes on here. It's just misinformation. Like when you smoke pot for the first time after going through the dare program, makes you think the whole thing is full if shit and makes the problem worse.

First of all, I never compared being incel to being black, don't think I ever mentioned the word black.

Fair enough. My fault.

If it makes you more comfortable, I'll compare them to the homeless

My point is, there's no point in comparing incels to any disenfranchised group of people because they are not disenfranchised by virtue of being incel. If homeless people had a forum where they advocated violence against the non-homeless and tried to justify attitudes and behaviors that kept them homeless,a good deal of people would be letting them to "just get a job".

A lot of incels have no real problems to solve. They're angry and bitter. I get that. But they chose than anger and bitterness; chose to internalize it.

Yeah or just that she wanted to be the hot one and not feel intimidated.

Haha fucking hell the soy is unreal

That's because you're short and ugly. You became a big bobble goblin. It's all about FACE and HEIGHT.

Anh girl would choose the right? Nah. I would choose the guy on the left and there's a couple more people who said this too. Guy on the right is unattractively huge.

Yeah.. until you are near him and your instinct to get fucked by the most powerful male comes into play. Like you have any fucking control over that. Hmm, yeah... I bet 2018 will be the year women are able to mind-game evolution out of history... no bitch.

You are SOOOO dumb! That's hilarious. I've come across many good looking dudes, my boyfriend looks more like the dude on the left for sure. I think that's better than a ducking mutant. You literally don't know shit about anything that goes through a woman's head. Yeah I'm sure some people prefer the right, but don't sit here and say ALL women would choose the right cuz that's not true.

Yo if someone is already so fucking retarded that they'd say what that guy is saying and mean it, there's no way in hell you're ever going to change his mind lmao

True. I usually don't argue with people on here but every once in a while I try and it never works out lol.

Usually people on here have a fundamental lack of logic and critical thinking skills

You don't have to worry about it, because he would never even look at you lol. He's 6'4" by the way, certainly not mutant height; he just looks like a mutant because he mogs the other man in every possible way

I don't care if he wouldn't look at me. He's weird as fuck looking.

Love when a fat chick pretends like she has options

I'm nowhere near a whale. Not even close. Again, as I showed someone else, you can look if you want but I don't give much of a fuck. I'm skinny.

You are not skinny. You do look like a man though. Man jaw fucking brute.

Lmao! Whatever you say bud.

that hunk o' meat on the right looks awful to me and the thinner, slimmer guy looks a whole lot nicer.

Source: woman

How large of a source are you?

Translation: both passed the looks barrier, now it’s time to make a distinction based my personal taste

I agree, poor choice of picture, both guys look at least ok.

Ballpark that age

teehee

Sour grapes.

Genetics?

Nice try Darwin. Anybody who goes into a gym can see that 80% of the idiots in there don't know squat (pun intended) about how to work out or grow muscle properly.

It's just airheaded idiots throwing they heaviest weight around they can. Sure, that will get you muscle, obviously, it's just not real muscle.

Do some research and have a good workout routine that focuses on each muscle properly. Combine that with good form and you can piss all over 'genetics'.

Use ya brains.

Most of those foo are on some form of steroids

what are their heights?

5’11 and 6ft

I still haven't fucking learnt :(

Lol lies that dude on the left is 5' 12" and the guy on the right is like 7'

The real life mogging machine

Nah man. You're just looking for an excuse to not try. Plenty of girls perfer people like the guy on the left, but even more girls wouldn't care if you had a good personality.

1 percent is not plenty.

If I have genuine female friends I surely must have a good personality, no?

I don't know, I don't know you. I'm not saying you don't, but it's not like having a decent personality means specific people will automatically wanna date you. I've been single my entire life because I just haven't found the right person yet. Your friends aren't obligated to date you.

First you said that females wouldn’t care if someone looked like the guy on the left if he had a good personality. Personality is the most subjective thing ever but if females call me their best friend I surely don’t have a horrendous personality, at least for those particular people. So why does nobody want to date me?

No? I just haven't ended up in a relationship yet. Tbh I'm just pretty shy and if I'm honest probably don't put myself out there enough. There's a million reasons for you to not be in a relationship yet but because I don't know you I cannot detirme what might the reason.

There's a million reasons for you to not be in a relationship yet but because I don't know you I cannot detirme what might the reason.

It’s not complicated at all. I’m ugly, that’s all. You can cope however you want but it’s what girls tell me.

Then you're going after the wrong girls.

Cope. AWALT.

Well you're talking to one who isn't. You could find someone but with this attitude you certainly won't. Self fulfilling prophecy.

So you would date any guy regardless of how he looks? Lmao.

Yes. It's sad that that is a commical to you. Of course I have preference in terms of physical appearance, but I'd be happy to disregard literally all of those for the right person. I mean like, I need a person to have good hygiene and that's physcial, but that visual.

Where are you from?

Midwest US.

Which state?

How is that relevant?

I’m trying to hook you up with an incel.

I'm not putting my location online.

Lmaoooooooo apparently all girls are the wrong girls

The majority of my close friends are girls and I think maybe 3 of them value appearance half as much you seem to think all women do.

I actually think the other guy’s cuter.

teehee e e h e e

K.

Yeah, just cute.

Fine, he’s overall better looking than the other guy.

You guys are idiots, the guy on the left obviously has a worse personality than chad.

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Guy on the left is hotter tbh

teehee

Nope im serious

If you don't agree with our percpetion of the world, you're LYING!

I remember somewhere in r/incels last year that Bateman was wearing shoulder paddings in that interview.

You can see how kinda fake his shoulders look. They’re almost perfectly circular.

don't talk to me or my son ever again

Eh, the left guy still looks fine. Obviously he looks worse, but it’s not like he’s gonna turn into a 0/10.

I have nothing but vitriolic hatred for all chads.

Left needs a tan and jaw implants

Holy framemog

Let's be honest: I think Bateman looks a little bit too mutant on this pic, so I can understand why women would prefer the guy on the left. They guy on the left looks good as well. In fact, if I was a woman, I would choose the guy on the left as well. Bateman doesn't look very good facially on this pic. Sure, the guy on the left looks smaller, but I think he looks sexier then Bateman in a way, at least on this pic. Now, in real life, with all the hormones and stuff, and in clubs, where women only choose based on looks and height, Bateman obviously has an adventage.

objectively incorrect

yeah, i saw the video now and bateman mogs him.

Out of curiosity - how tall do you reckon each of these guys are? Chad seriously looks like a fucking giant here.

The manlet is probably 4' 12"

umm.. that's literally 5', not sure if you're joking or what :/ ?

Anyway - that's what I'm trying to figure out - like is he a "manlet" - or is the other guy just a fucking giant? Or maybe a bit of both?

Nick Bateman is 6'4". The perspective is fucking with this a bit, the other guys looks 5'8 or 5'9".

Yeah, if he's 6'4 then that sounds about right.

where is this from?

“There will always be someone better might as well stay in this basement forever” No both of those guys fuck.

He's probably not incel though, lol.

I actually find the guy on the left more attractive than the guy on the right..... but I’m glad y’all assume.

That's not proof, that's just you expanding on your unproven idea.

Is that who does your thinking for you?

1 percent is not plenty.

Lol nope. Not even close.

It’s just that I’ve known Guys like that - the only way someone can get that big is by spending hours upon hours at the gym and blowing their paychecks at GNC. I’d much rather be with a guy who I can hang back and watch Rick and Morty with. To tell the truth, the guy on the right kind of looks like he has acromegaly.

If I have genuine female friends I surely must have a good personality, no?

Sometimes it just gets to me and I have to say something man... I know I know don’t argue with people who don’t even lift because they think they know everything, when they’ve been lifting for a year lol. The less you know the more you think you know, and the more you know you realize you know less.

Nope. His name is nick Bateman.

I'm not putting my location online.

That's fair

Too soon😯

First of all, I never compared being incel to being black, don't think I ever mentioned the word black. I did however compared the denial of the incel experience to the denial of white privilege. Since you decided to bring it up though, I'm also black; not that it has anything to do with the point. If it makes you more comfortable though, I'll compare them to the homeless unless you're also that. Over half the homeless population is mentally ill, telling them to "just get a job" is like telling an ugly high schooler shit like work on your personality, when there personality is just fine. That's how you create some of the really fucked up dudes on here. It's just misinformation. Like when you smoke pot for the first time after going through the dare program, makes you think the whole thing is full if shit and makes the problem worse.