Incels need to work on their PR. Blackpilled people should start a communications department and hire some Chad advertising executives to get the message across.
ok, mb, let me rephrase that. Can you link a comment with a substantial number of upvotes that says that? Because, let's be honest, literally anyone can make an account and post anything on any subreddit. If a comment says that, but then gets downvoted or removed, it's not really indicative of incels as a whole, right?
I'm advertising for the blackpill whenever i can, whereever i can. All men must unite under the black pill. Meanwhile, join us over at r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen!
Most people agree with your underlying view. The problem is just the hate that comes from this sub. I know it's a coping sub, should be set to private, people are venting, all that. Doesn't matter - that's what people are objecting to, not your observations about reality.
To be honest - most people who've experienced being a teenager and beyond are already aware of what you call "the blackpill" - just not everyone has the same reaction as this community. That's it. Everyone is well aware of reality around them lol - it's pretty fucking hard not to be.
lol red pill is just a manual on how not to get into a relationship. It's basically a more scoped-out version of what PUA losers do. I don't doubt RPers get laid. But they don't get married. No one (girl) wants to marry into a relationship with those freaks.
Enlighten me. Also - it depends what you mean, I can list "cons" or negative aspects about any race. There's pros and cons to everything in life. Including your race, ethnicity and colour at birth. Everything has an effect. So in that sense, sure - there's things wrong with being white.
However - there's no wrong in being white.
It's not a choice, it's nothing we have control over. And by definition, if we have zero agency then we literally can not have done any wrong. Or any right. We can't have done anything if we have no agency.
And that is what I mean when I say there's nothing wrong with being white. I mean I've done nothing wrong, by being white. And since I've done nothing wrong, there's really no way you can insult or offend me. Because none of it will be personal and have anything to do with me at all.
I'd love to see you try and correct / challenge that statement, without sounding like a moron.
I said your initial sentence is not correctly formed. It doesn't actually make sense. It is invalid. You were unable to string together your words in such a way that they formed a grammatically correct sentence.
I was asking if you would be so kind as to please correct this ugly mess and perhaps replace it with an actual sentence, with real words, with the rules of grammar in correct application and ... well, I guess just generally make it so I can understand what you're trying to say to me. Because currently - all I can understand from this is that you've possibly had a mild stroke or some shit, I dunno.
reasonably. Although, recently as a result of heavy medication, I've basically lost my sex drive completely. So, I'm basically a born-again virgin until I get my shit sorted out.
honestly, most people know this, I think incels tend to take it harder because it affects them more. Alternatively, I think there is like a "threshold of attractiveness". Physical appearance will only matter to a certain point were people are not actively going to avoid you, after that, personality, talent, not being fucking insane, start to matter more.
You would be surprised how the sheeple will accept mostly anything if sugar coated. I got 20 downvotes for calling the gaming company blizzard out for focusing on breast cancer, when it is the most overfunded research area in cancer. A guy with a reply a few hours after me got over 200 upvotes for saying the exact same thing, because he threw in a personal sob story about his mom dying from lung cancer and formulating the sentences in a more idiot friendly way.
the halo effect is a widely known and scientifically proven psychological phenomenon. i’ve said it before that none of you are edgy or “blackpilled” because you get some retard sj redditors to argue with you online; it means nothing.
I also date ugly guys ... I love their personality xDD
Look, my boyfriend technically looks like a model. But usually I only like guys with green eyes - and he has brown eyes and that‘s why he‘s ugly, just like you incels teehee...
But even though he is soo ugly I still date him __
Look, my boyfriend technically looks like a model. But usually I only like guys with green eyes - and he has brown eyes -.- ....and that‘s why he‘s ugly, just like you incels teehee...
Dude how did you nail how girls type so accurately. You can tell how they try to express their emotions through typing.
Upvoting most of what's in this thread. While some normies and roasties will deny the whole ugly issue, some of us do that whole pity thing because we know ugliness is unmovable and what we feel for you is because we know you can't ever make people be endeared to you no matter what you do. We don't just come on here to give you really useless advice. We also come on here because we know your struggle is legitimate and we want insight into how it might be possible to be more sensitive to that.
Picture the world wide meltdown as used to be average woman loses most if not all of their orbiters and chad barely acknowledge the used to be above average looking woman existence anymore.
Some women legit loses 3 points without make up, the awakening would be brutal but eventually women would have to acknowledge their lookmatch. They would still have the upperhand and be the chooser the same way most mammals do but it wouldn't be nowhere as bad for men as it is today.
Absolutely EVERYONE knows that the black pill is true. They just refuse to accept it because they're fragile cucks who still hold on to the lies told by society. Shattering the world view of numale cucks would literally destroy them.
I mean honestly like really good looking guys aren't exceptionally rare?
Do no other normies have a Chad friend? Like compare how he is treated to how you're treated, then imagine how someone who looks like you relative to him in comparison to you probably goes through life.
Like I'm a pretty successful and presentable looking guy but legit nothing I see lurking here surprises me at all.
They still have sex and relationships with the majority of those men, 80/20 is cope(in the sense that it don't really matters to you) admit it, we are the sub 5 bottom trash.
What? I'm just acknowledging how it is for them. If you think a betabux will have the same relationship with a woman that a Chad would, then you're beyond retarded.
If you think a betabux will have the same relationship with a woman that a Chad would, then you're beyond retarded.
You are blowing out of proportion what normies life feels, yeah Chads are the millonaries of the sexual market, but there's a reason of why even blackpilled normies don't share the extreme disgust for today society like incels, thinking that all normans are getting cucked out there is a masive cope, almost all normies lost their virginities at 17 and have sex with at least 10 woman before settling, do you really think their lifes are somehow similar to incels in the struggle? fucking delusional
This is not a 80 Vs 20, this a 90 Vs 10%(At best), the vast majority of men enjoy having roasties liberated because they are getting more sex that they were capable of getting like, 40 years ago.
It's just that we are the losers of the sexual market.
The point for me is men cruelly judging women isn't a taboo. It's OK to complain about that with friends, write articles about it, etc but people are angry and defensive about the idea that women can do the same. This sub is an extreme to meet an extreme. Take away societys, women don't care how men look, mindset, and you take away this subs power.
Many still isn't the same as all. It's why generalized statements don't actually help when making points like this or trying to expose shitty behavior. There's always going to be the wild card in it that contradicts the idea that all men/women behave a certain way.
Some women have very high standards than some men do, again, it's a generalized study and statement. Unless one of those statistical charts are done against the literal entire population of the globe, using it as 'The Word of Law' is only going to make things depressing for you. It's a drop in an ocean in comparisons, the world is a vast place with a great number of people with tastes and opinions, preferences and desires.
But touching on something else you got there. "I would kill to date a fit girl as ugly as me." so you're saying she would have to be fit, she couldn't be average/heavy at all, right? Because by that very notion you're doing the same thing they are. Women are shallow, so are men.
She would have to be fit because I am fit, and sports is one of the main copes I have in life. I wouldn't mind if she was fat and wanted to get fit. I would date her and assist her to lose weight and get into sports.
Also, Yes men are shallow, but they have much lower standards than women, which gives a chance to much more women than men. You know this is true. Everybody does. It's always easier for a woman to find a date than a man of the same attractiveness.
Ok, so you've got standards and preferences, that doesn't qualify you as involuntarily targeted. That means you have standards and preferences, the women you're after dont share your opinions for one reason or another, call it looks, call it attitude, call it confidence, etc. But you also cannot say that you have no chance if you also refuse to remain open to less than perfect idealized women either.
As for the last bit, yeah I know that's true, as you said, everyone does. That doesn't make it unfair, it falls back into preferences and standards of self. If a guy doesn't want to stick his dick in someone he considers ugly, then a woman is no less wrong to not want to be fucked by someone she considers ugly either. It's tit for tat.
You said she has to be fit as you, meaning you refuse to date someone who's average/heavier than you, regardless if she has intentions to go to the gym or not 'because it's important to me'.
Which is more important to you, potential life long partnership with someone who appreciates you and cares for you because of the person you are, or someone that makes you look good as a couple when you're out together so you feel more validated in the eyes of other people.
As a unrelated toss in, I really hate the response time limit in this subreddit. I had this ready 9 minutes ago. -.-
A girl as ugly as me would absolutely NOT "make me look good as a couple" but I don't give a shit if she truly cares about me.
I don't refuse to date someone who is heavier than me, I refuse to date someone who doesn't wish to put effort into improving his physical health. It's a character trait. And there is NO double standard here. "Fatcel = volcel" is a popular saying among incels.
So you're more worried about how people view you as a couple than how you feel about her in a relationship/how she treats you?
See, this is the thing that strikes me as ironic. Incels, by the very idea, is involuntarily celibacy because of uncontrollable factors such as appearance, height, skin color, which makes them unable to land a girl for casual sex or long term relationships.
And yet by your own admissions, you're more worried about appearances than depth and character value. So why are you involuntarily celibate again?
damn so normies spell out all of this bullshit self improvement crap to us and then think it's fair that we have to date late thirties, obese single mothers because no other girl is interested in us, lol.
No other girls are interested, or your views on what women should be is so askew that you don't see the ones who are interested?
Honestly, that's something I struggle with too, I suck at some social cues. I can never tell when someone is flirting with me unless someone points it out to me after the fact. Been like that my entire life and I guarantee you for a lot of you it's the exact same thing. You aren't seeing the flirting, you aren't getting the signals and it sucks. But that's a You/Me problem, not a Them problem.
No other girls are interested, or your views on what women should be is so askew that you don't see the ones who are interested?
What are my views on women? I'm not a misogynist or anything, and I don't buy into a lot of the stuff posted here. Don't assume all incels are the same. I (personally) have not noticed girls interested in me. I have quite a small friend group, I don't fit in well with other people my age in the same area, etc. so I don't meet a lot of girls. The ones I do meet, I talk to at least a bit, but I've never gotten any indication of any interest.
I suppose it's possible that some girl I talked to a few times may have been interested in me, but I kind of doubt it. And even if they were, how would I have any way of knowing it? I don't think it's fair to assume I'm just missing signals.
I'm not saying it's a "them" problem, either. I don't really think it's anyone's fault that I have terrible social skills. I was just expressing my anger that people in IT tell us incels we need to improve all of the time, but then we're being shallow if we're not willing to settle with someone who doesn't care about their body, and is far older than us.
If I come across as an asshole, I do apologize. Getting through to the heart of a lot of social related issues requires taking a very blunt approach.
IncelTears is a troll faction if there ever was one, that's very true. I've been on there as well, afaik I haven't actually posted anything up there because everything I've seen from their perspective is really stupid. That's why I come here to see things from the source rather than hearsay. There is a lot of anger around here, but I do feel like a lot of it is also missplaced and childish ranting, but it builds up a following of like minded consensus because other people feel jaded and left out and that's a slippery slope.
No one should settle, however, you also have to be realistic as well. When you have people going around spouting nonsense about they deserve this and that, that they feel entitled to this and that, that becomes a dangerous mentality and that's a good reason why a lot of women straight up wouldn't want to be with someone like that.
If I come across as an asshole, I do apologize. Getting through to the heart of a lot of social related issues requires taking a very blunt approach.
IncelTears is a troll faction if there ever was one, that's very true. I've been on there as well, afaik I haven't actually posted anything up there because everything I've seen from their perspective is really stupid. That's why I come here to see things from the source rather than hearsay. There is a lot of anger around here, but I do feel like a lot of it is also missplaced and childish ranting, but it builds up a following of like minded consensus because other people feel jaded and left out and that's a slippery slope.
No one should settle, however, you also have to be realistic as well. When you have people going around spouting nonsense about they deserve this and that, that they feel entitled to this and that, that becomes a dangerous mentality and that's a good reason why a lot of women straight up wouldn't want to be with someone like that.
thank you. I wish more normies I encountered were as understanding as you. I agree that this community is doing more harm than good, but at the same time, it is naive to think that incels are incel BECAUSE of this community. We were incels before discovering this; our active participation in this community didn't suddenly make us "incel."
The problem is there is nowhere else for us to go. We were completely rejected by society. Where do we go for inclusion and camaraderie?
Nah, I get that the mantle of being an incel is a precursor to joining the incel online community. But because of the stigma that has become of BEING an incel, I would suggest a rebranding. Into what, I'm not entirely sure, but due to those extreme minds and attitudes and the representation they've caused through the old r/incels and places like incel.me, I would think that if anyone who does associate as it and wants to be taken more seriously and genuinely considered a normal person, who just happens to have hit some shitty dice in the game of life. Reinvention isn't a bad idea.
This is also why I've said on other occasions that those extreme attitudes need to be dealt with from within the community rather than having outsiders, like myself, come in and square off with them. It's the exact same thing that has to happen with Extremists in any community, be it religion or social networks. While all may not agree on the same ideals, all represent the whole by the way they talk and project themselves around here too.
So, you're mad because some men are weak willed and desperate for pussy but women aren't as desperate for dick? Shouldn't you be getting mad at other men for shitty standards and not women for theirs?
Or, I think I get this, because women aren't desperate for dick and can get it from literally anyone they want (case in point with that provided abomination that I shall never be able to unsee. Thanks for that.) ya'll think that ALL women should be down to fuck ANY guy just because some men have shown that they'll do the same.
Perhaps you feel you arent, but I can say with absolute certainty men can be just as shallow.
Hell there's a movie out about it with Jack Black. 'Shallow Hal'
It doesn't change the fact that a lot of men are desperate mongrels looking for anything to fuck, but that has nothing to do with standards, literally.
Perhaps you feel you arent, but I can say with absolute certainty men can be just as shallow.
Let's see some proof then
Hell there's a movie out about it with Jack Black. 'Shallow Hal'
Well unlike you I don't base my views on society based off of hollywood movies but instead actual [data](looks_ratings_101_nearly_all_studies_show_a)
It doesn't change the fact that a lot of men are desperate mongrels looking for anything to fuck, but that has nothing to do with standards, literally.
If we are s bunch of disgusting mongrels (nice racism btw) who will fuck anything then how is that not related to "our standards"
That's bs, look around you, go to the mall, go to a park, go somewhere offline and pay attention to the world at large and see how many couples you see that are idealistic perfect people. Everyone has flaws of some kind.
Don't use Tinder examples or the shit you see on Reddit as your world view to create opinions, it's a keyhole against the whole picture. You have to be in the world to actually see it for what it is.
That's bs, look around you, go to the mall, go to a park, go somewhere offline and pay attention to the world at large and see how many couples you see that are idealistic perfect people. Everyone has flaws of some kind.
There are two types of men who are part of a couple: Attractive ones, and men who were attractive when they met and got uglier because they aged.
And anyway, we're not talking about mere "flaws." We incels don't even count as men to females because of the way we look.
Again, that's bs, go into the world and you'll see couples where men aren't what you would define as attractive with women who are, or arent. Or women who aren't attractive with guys you may consider are. And that's because beauty/attraction is in eyes of the beholder. What one person finds attractive, another person wont. What one person finds endearing and cute, another finds quirky and weird.
>Again, that's bs, go into the world and you'll see couples where men aren't what you would define as attractive with women who are, or arent.
Yeah, because they AGED. They used to be attractive. Every time.
> Or women who aren't attractive with guys you may consider are.
Yes, because men don't have the same outrageous standards as women.
>And that's because beauty/attraction is in eyes of the beholder.
Utter nonsense. If it were subjective, we wouldn't have sex symbols with overlapping features.
>You don't count as men to what women?
Nope. When women talk about considering guys who aren't "conventionally attractive"/"aren't the best looking guys," they aren't picturing guys who look like us. If they saw what we looked like, they would go, "...oh. Shit, I forgot about people who look like you."
So you absolutely and without question deny that ugly couples exist who aren't old. Interesting.
BS, yes men have outrageous standards for women. All men? No. Do all women have outrageous standards/expectations for all men? No they dont. Do some? Absolutely, on both sides.
It's not nonsense, you've just been one of the millions of other people who have been subject to the push of specific ideal male/female body image, grooming styles, clothing styles that you're right there with so many others who believe that. I'm a nudist, do you know how many nudists are super model level? Very, very few, especially here in the Western side of the world. Go to a nudist beach or a nudist resort where it's mandatory and see what you've got. Old, young, fat, skinny, toned, flabby, smooth skin, rough skin, hairy, smooth, white, black, asian, etc. It's all there and you know what? Oh and yes, small and big dicked people and guess what, even the small dicked men have women too. Nudism blows the whole body image thing out because you aren't trying to make up for something by covering yourself up, so yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Just like how you can find one person attractive for skin tone, hair color, ethnicity and someone else may not.
Maybe because 'guys like you' hide off online and in the shadows and dont make yourselves as visible. Because you're ashamed of the way you look. If you take yourself out of the equation then you can't be considered part of it by default. This goes back to, I do not believe in the entire 'Incel' idea.
And the funny thing is, that's an issue propagated by Men, not women.
If a lot of men weren't so desperate to get their dicks wet by anything with a hole and a pulse (sometimes) then a lot of women wouldn't feel so empowered to be able to be so selective about it either.
That's a valid point - that's actually why I don't believe many of you are legitimate and are just trolls or looking for 'lulz'. Thing that bugs me about that is there very well could be some easily impressionable people who come through here looking for genuine advice about relationship issues and instead they get a bunch of guys all telling them they're screwed, they should rope, they shouldn't even bother trying anymore and join the bandwagon.
Most incels are trolls about the really obvious stuff i.e. "roastie" comments, if you don't look like this in 2018 it's over, etc. I have it on pretty good authority that most people here don't act this way in real life, considering I've never heard any stories about people meeting self proclaimed "incels" irl. In my opinion, the average incel probably is very quiet, shy, and awkward in real life. I say this on some authority from being in incel/4chan type communities for a while, and also from how I percieve my own behavior. The average incel probably has had poor romantic success because of a mix of bad social skills and poor looks.
I never understood the attitude argument/"you're incel b/c you post on a misogynist board" arguments because we only discovered this place AFTER being rejected by girls for years. It's not like we were completely well adjusted and stumbled upon /r/braincels and now we're woman hating sociopaths.
Normies like me know, of course, that looks matter. You'd have to be naive not to see that.
We don't blame it on women, because it's not women's fault. Men are just as shitty in this way. If anything, women deal with more prejudice than men for their looks.
That is not true. Ugly women can still get hookups and dates. Women have higher standards than men. Ugly men have it much worse. That's why there are no female incels.
do you know that the term incel was coined by a woman? that you literally took a movement started by a queer woman and turned it into a group exclusively for angry men?
why are you intentionally avoiding my point? the person said "there are no female incels." he is wrong. that is all. incel means someone who is "involuntarily celibate." there's nothing that says a woman can't be an incel.
If anything, women deal with more prejudice than men for their looks.
they deal with prejudice from other women lol. women like to shittalk each other. men will call a girl ugly, but will still bang her or give her gifts when given the chance.
men will also kill/rape a bunch of women they don't know because they believe they're involved in a global conspiracy against them. but yeah, men have it worse.
Ive been on reddit since 2011 and the blackpill is having a noticeable effect on its discourse.
I think because of Incels' taboo nature the lurker effect is even more pronounced than in other subreddits and a lot more people are pondering on the effect that lookism and women's sexual strategy has on them and their lives, even more than we realize.
Actually, r/braincels seems to post verbally and ideologically violent content a lot less than the old r/incels. The closest thing to the old r/incels is r/maleforeveralone. I see the top posts on this sub daily and they're extremely tame compared to the stuff a year ago. It also seems like there are fewer normies in r/braincels than there were in the old r/incels, so it's the actual self-identifying incels that are pivoting their energy away from toxic shit, not normies and normie lurkers influencing the tone of the sub towards the more civilized attitude it's got now.
I rarely see "women are whores" here. I see it, and especially its more subcultural iteration "roasties," etc. but not here as much as you'd think, it being the replacement for r/incels. The space for them to talk about their struggles seems to have potential as a positive tool, in this particular manifestation.
It's just that a lot of this sub is memes and discussions that employ a much more passive tone than the posts in r/maleforeveralone that include really abrasive language about women. Because of this, I just think this sub is tame and more reasonable than other incel communities. I don't feel, like, hurt reading the language here, ever. In r/maleforeveralone, I feel like I've been punched.
Sorry, not sure if you caught the edit. I bailed on finding it for you. Only because I didn't post in the thread so it's not in my history. But you should be able to find it, it wasn't that long ago.
I'm a nice to look at woman that swallows the blackpill, hence why I hang out here and sympathize with incels. I think a lot of people actually do at some level.
I’d have to agree tbh. Blackpill is definitely real. One of my good friends fits the “incel” bill and he is kinda not so good looking and has low self-esteeem. He gets rejected by every girl he likes and gets depressed. Once he even shared a “Chad vs. Virgin meme” on a friend group which makes me think he browses this board.
I can’t deny good-looks help in life since I’ve benefited from them but I still think for most average guys not getting relationships/sex is not an issue. If you are really ugly then yeah it is a problem.
I think it's deeper - most people accept that looks matter, but if you're average you can help yourself with self improvement, get yourself out there, and be successful.
Incels are the exception. They are not average. Average advice does not work. People aren't afraid of admitting that attractiveness is a barrier to getting sex snd relationships, they don't want to admit that for some people it is a nigh insurmountable barrier.
That is not true. Ugly women can still get hookups and dates. Women have higher standards than men. Ugly men have it much worse. That's why there are no female incels.
If anything, women deal with more prejudice than men for their looks.
they deal with prejudice from other women lol. women like to shittalk each other. men will call a girl ugly, but will still bang her or give her gifts when given the chance.
A girl as ugly as me would absolutely NOT "make me look good as a couple" but I don't give a shit if she truly cares about me.
I don't refuse to date someone who is heavier than me, I refuse to date someone who doesn't wish to put effort into improving his physical health. It's a character trait. And there is NO double standard here. "Fatcel = volcel" is a popular saying among incels.
damn so normies spell out all of this bullshit self improvement crap to us and then think it's fair that we have to date late thirties, obese single mothers because no other girl is interested in us, lol.
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1 Cyrrow 2018-05-13
Lol
1 mittrinilli 2018-05-13
Blackpilling the world.
Bend over and receive the blackpill suppository normies
1 leafbitter 2018-05-13
Suppository? Make them swallow the black pill, vomit it, and then swallow the black pill vomit back.
1 StBlackOps2Cel 2018-05-13
“Incel culture is based of this , its called black pill”
“Well, They arent wrong”
1 Mr-Mercedes- 2018-05-13
Well, they aren't
1 empatheticapathetic 2018-05-13
Well sweaty they AREnt
1 Hoeasss 2018-05-13
Lifefuel
1 UKLankancel 2018-05-13
Normies accept the blackpill when it is slightly sugarcoated like this.
1 UttarBiharMuktiSena 2018-05-13
Incels need to work on their PR. Blackpilled people should start a communications department and hire some Chad advertising executives to get the message across.
1 RegisteredLolicon 2018-05-13
Yes we need Chad on our side
1 harambeazn 2018-05-13
get some virgins who ascended to Chad level, they'll gladly help you
1 MasterCatSkinner 2018-05-13
no we wont. git gud scrub
1 guerillahubris00 2018-05-13
"hey guys im what you would call a Chad."
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-13
He's too busy hamboning Stacy and her gal-pals
1 uglybaldo 2018-05-13
Yeah seriously incels need to stop with the “women deserve rape” stuff it’s not doing them any favours
1 Moist___ 2018-05-13
All those are false flags. Don't believe IT propaganda
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-13
Actually I see inceltears posters saying that a lot more
1 BetUrProcrastinating 2018-05-13
link me one comment on this subreddit that says that
1 nullsignature 2018-05-13
https://i.imgur.com/QJQew1U.png
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-13
Is one comment the best you could've mastered?
1 nullsignature 2018-05-13
"link me one comment on this subreddit that says that"
need help carrying those goalposts, bucko?
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-13
Pedantic when it suits you? Okay.
1 BetUrProcrastinating 2018-05-13
ok, mb, let me rephrase that. Can you link a comment with a substantial number of upvotes that says that? Because, let's be honest, literally anyone can make an account and post anything on any subreddit. If a comment says that, but then gets downvoted or removed, it's not really indicative of incels as a whole, right?
1 JJarvs 2018-05-13
Put out some Chadvertisements
1 sat_ta 2018-05-13
I'm advertising for the blackpill whenever i can, whereever i can. All men must unite under the black pill. Meanwhile, join us over at r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen!
1 CommonMisspellingBot 2018-05-13
Hey, sat_ta, just a quick heads-up:
whereever is actually spelled wherever. You can remember it by one e in the middle.
Have a nice day!
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1 sat_ta 2018-05-13
delete
1 sat_ta 2018-05-13
Thanks, comrade!
1 MrYtem39 2018-05-13
how's life as a 420/10 guy
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-13
This tbh. We're like engineers in that we produce good content but don't know how to market it.
1 DryYard 2018-05-13
There's no PR because it's not a movement, but yes we could convince people of our viewpoint by being more empirical and using less loaded jargon.
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
Most people agree with your underlying view. The problem is just the hate that comes from this sub. I know it's a coping sub, should be set to private, people are venting, all that. Doesn't matter - that's what people are objecting to, not your observations about reality.
1 _neutral_username_ 2018-05-13
You would think, right?
1 DryYard 2018-05-13
Too bad. They aren't ENTITLED (TM) to not hear meany things.
1 HydraRuler 2018-05-13
The problem isn't the message, it's the delivery.
1 PROLAPSED_SUBWOOFER 2018-05-13
Yep, nobody wants to hear the truth when it comes from loser virgins tbh. This is why we need Chad spokespersons.
1 sailorgangordie 2018-05-13
Someone hire Lachowski to be our public relations rep.
1 PROLAPSED_SUBWOOFER 2018-05-13
Lachowski used blackpill!
It was super effective!
1 SmokeyMcBlunt 2018-05-13
we had a richcel back on /r/Incels
dunno where he went
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
To be honest - most people who've experienced being a teenager and beyond are already aware of what you call "the blackpill" - just not everyone has the same reaction as this community. That's it. Everyone is well aware of reality around them lol - it's pretty fucking hard not to be.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-13
Except this experience doesn't end at the end of adolescence.
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
No shit.
1 political_one 2018-05-13
I volunteer myself as tribute
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
yup
1 Detoxification- 2018-05-13
It’s not even sugarcoated. They explicitly mentioned us 😂
1 Yadnarav 2018-05-13
same with the red pill
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
lol red pill is just a manual on how not to get into a relationship. It's basically a more scoped-out version of what PUA losers do. I don't doubt RPers get laid. But they don't get married. No one (girl) wants to marry into a relationship with those freaks.
1 Yadnarav 2018-05-13
Can't tell if disgruntled, pessimistic incel or man hating sjw who also happens to be a whitey. Send help.
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
Just relaying my wife's thoughts
1 Yadnarav 2018-05-13
so man hating sjw it is
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
You're laughing at me, because I'm happily married?
1 Yadnarav 2018-05-13
there is everything wrong with being white lmfao
red pill triggers you lil whitey boy
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
Enlighten me. Also - it depends what you mean, I can list "cons" or negative aspects about any race. There's pros and cons to everything in life. Including your race, ethnicity and colour at birth. Everything has an effect. So in that sense, sure - there's things wrong with being white.
However - there's no wrong in being white.
It's not a choice, it's nothing we have control over. And by definition, if we have zero agency then we literally can not have done any wrong. Or any right. We can't have done anything if we have no agency.
And that is what I mean when I say there's nothing wrong with being white. I mean I've done nothing wrong, by being white. And since I've done nothing wrong, there's really no way you can insult or offend me. Because none of it will be personal and have anything to do with me at all.
I'd love to see you try and correct / challenge that statement, without sounding like a moron.
1 Yadnarav 2018-05-13
You do have the choice of apologizing for the white race being the most evil or not.
Being white is wrong if you don't do that.
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
Can you please re-order the words so they form a coherent sentence. Also, a properly formed question - if that is supposed to be a question for me.
1 Yadnarav 2018-05-13
.......wat
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
I said your initial sentence is not correctly formed. It doesn't actually make sense. It is invalid. You were unable to string together your words in such a way that they formed a grammatically correct sentence.
I was asking if you would be so kind as to please correct this ugly mess and perhaps replace it with an actual sentence, with real words, with the rules of grammar in correct application and ... well, I guess just generally make it so I can understand what you're trying to say to me. Because currently - all I can understand from this is that you've possibly had a mild stroke or some shit, I dunno.
1 Yadnarav 2018-05-13
are you sure you're not a virgin
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
reasonably. Although, recently as a result of heavy medication, I've basically lost my sex drive completely. So, I'm basically a born-again virgin until I get my shit sorted out.
1 Yadnarav 2018-05-13
I'm not your fucking therapist. Don't talk to me
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
You asked me a question
1 Yadnarav 2018-05-13
all i needed was a "yes," not your whole pathetic life story
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
What do you care how I went about answering your stupid fucking question? (And it WAS a stupid question)
1 Yadnarav 2018-05-13
It was a rhetorical question you fucking autist. It meant you sound so autistic one doubts that you're married, much less had sex.
No one wants to suck your shrimpstick, not even your wife. Get over it
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
Lol
1 BasedRubby 2018-05-13
most people confuse the redpill with the retards online that self identify as “red pillers” and dismiss it on that basis.
1 empatheticapathetic 2018-05-13
Black pill is just a niche ideology born of red pill
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
i know
1 guerillahubris00 2018-05-13
red pill makes sense if a fairly good looking guy does it, i can not imagine average and below guys using it and getting much results
1 Yadnarav 2018-05-13
you think that way because you are an incel
1 Rotciv_IRL 2018-05-13
honestly, most people know this, I think incels tend to take it harder because it affects them more. Alternatively, I think there is like a "threshold of attractiveness". Physical appearance will only matter to a certain point were people are not actively going to avoid you, after that, personality, talent, not being fucking insane, start to matter more.
1 ionicguy 2018-05-13
You would be surprised how the sheeple will accept mostly anything if sugar coated. I got 20 downvotes for calling the gaming company blizzard out for focusing on breast cancer, when it is the most overfunded research area in cancer. A guy with a reply a few hours after me got over 200 upvotes for saying the exact same thing, because he threw in a personal sob story about his mom dying from lung cancer and formulating the sentences in a more idiot friendly way.
1 civilization_failed 2018-05-13
Impossible, it can't just be in the approach.
1 E_R_E_R_I 2018-05-13
Because it's not a matter of sugarcoating, it's about being moderated. Extremism makes it wrong and harmful. Just like with any religion.
1 BasedRubby 2018-05-13
the halo effect is a widely known and scientifically proven psychological phenomenon. i’ve said it before that none of you are edgy or “blackpilled” because you get some retard sj redditors to argue with you online; it means nothing.
1 SwansonSamsonite 2018-05-13
Looks matter, but no, not in your case, person I haven't seen a picture of. You are alone because you post things I don't agree with on reddit.
1 IsThisRealReddit 2018-05-13
Nooo looks don‘t matter!!! <3
I also date ugly guys ... I love their personality xDD
Look, my boyfriend technically looks like a model. But usually I only like guys with green eyes - and he has brown eyes and that‘s why he‘s ugly, just like you incels teehee...
But even though he is soo ugly I still date him __
1 CelderSrolls 2018-05-13
Teehee
1 ZolladiterraSudata 2018-05-13
As a non american i cant imagine what this teehee sounds like but it has to do with being autistic
1 CelderSrolls 2018-05-13
Poor quality, but I always imagine this scene: https://youtu.be/GHoPzrIJ1So
1 ZolladiterraSudata 2018-05-13
Dear lord imagine a stacy from california saying that.
1 IsThisRealReddit 2018-05-13
I‘m also american
But I try to imagine lol
1 harambeazn 2018-05-13
Dude how did you nail how girls type so accurately. You can tell how they try to express their emotions through typing.
1 Oasystole 2018-05-13
I can hear the long fingernails clacking on the keys as I read this.
1 harambeazn 2018-05-13
yep
1 Invisible_247 2018-05-13
Well, the phone screen.
1 IsThisRealReddit 2018-05-13
Daily dose of the Blackpill
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-13
Where are the whiteknights and roasts at? Nowhere to be seen lol
1 pennycenturie 2018-05-13
Upvoting most of what's in this thread. While some normies and roasties will deny the whole ugly issue, some of us do that whole pity thing because we know ugliness is unmovable and what we feel for you is because we know you can't ever make people be endeared to you no matter what you do. We don't just come on here to give you really useless advice. We also come on here because we know your struggle is legitimate and we want insight into how it might be possible to be more sensitive to that.
1 empatheticapathetic 2018-05-13
Fuck off normie. You have provided absolutely nothing of value in your comment
1 25OverHeat 2018-05-13
The Great Work begins.
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-13
BAN FAKE UP
1 pennycenturie 2018-05-13
No.
1 ZolladiterraSudata 2018-05-13
Dude dont be a statist pls. Embrace liberism.
1 sfcel 2018-05-13
Picture the world wide meltdown as used to be average woman loses most if not all of their orbiters and chad barely acknowledge the used to be above average looking woman existence anymore.
Some women legit loses 3 points without make up, the awakening would be brutal but eventually women would have to acknowledge their lookmatch. They would still have the upperhand and be the chooser the same way most mammals do but it wouldn't be nowhere as bad for men as it is today.
1 Ub2w 2018-05-13
I can't find the last one
1 celaway1696 2018-05-13
Absolutely EVERYONE knows that the black pill is true. They just refuse to accept it because they're fragile cucks who still hold on to the lies told by society. Shattering the world view of numale cucks would literally destroy them.
1 JarlPaul 2018-05-13
You really have the audacity to say the soypill is false? You'll be sorry
1 Moist___ 2018-05-13
Kek
1 harambeazn 2018-05-13
i swear braincels are top tier comedians
1 Black__philip 2018-05-13
Is that why all professional comedian are virgins? XD
1 tiahlm 2018-05-13
they’re all unhappy, at least.
1 Black__philip 2018-05-13
Does Ricky gervais for example seem unhappy to you?
1 PROLAPSED_SUBWOOFER 2018-05-13
It's only false if you don't take it as a suppository.
1 Sniveling_Cur 2018-05-13
the end is nigh
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-13
Fuck, where's my rope?
1 Xyoloswag420blazeitX 2018-05-13
I mean honestly like really good looking guys aren't exceptionally rare?
Do no other normies have a Chad friend? Like compare how he is treated to how you're treated, then imagine how someone who looks like you relative to him in comparison to you probably goes through life.
Like I'm a pretty successful and presentable looking guy but legit nothing I see lurking here surprises me at all.
1 Yemanthing 2018-05-13
A whole aisle just for picking the right type of toilet paper and people are surprised that people are picky about their fucking life partner.
1 48Cats 2018-05-13
It's also because they just don't want to agree with incels
1 sailorgangordie 2018-05-13
I knew about lookism/blackpill since 2012 yet I still coped and rejected it for years.
1 GymcellingisCope1 2018-05-13
No, most accept it but the blackpill is like poverty; Only those negatively affected about it want to change it.
1 celaway1696 2018-05-13
Numale cucks are negatively affected by it as well, they just don't realise it.
1 grampipon 2018-05-13
you all are ridiculous. most people are average looking and they have no problem with relationships.
1 celaway1696 2018-05-13
Women see 80% of men as ugly.
1 Ub2w 2018-05-13
They still have sex and relationships with the majority of those men, 80/20 is cope(in the sense that it don't really matters to you) admit it, we are the sub 5 bottom trash.
1 celaway1696 2018-05-13
Those guys betabux while the foids still fuck chads on the side.
1 Ub2w 2018-05-13
Cope, and you know it
1 celaway1696 2018-05-13
What? I'm just acknowledging how it is for them. If you think a betabux will have the same relationship with a woman that a Chad would, then you're beyond retarded.
1 Ub2w 2018-05-13
You are blowing out of proportion what normies life feels, yeah Chads are the millonaries of the sexual market, but there's a reason of why even blackpilled normies don't share the extreme disgust for today society like incels, thinking that all normans are getting cucked out there is a masive cope, almost all normies lost their virginities at 17 and have sex with at least 10 woman before settling, do you really think their lifes are somehow similar to incels in the struggle? fucking delusional
This is not a 80 Vs 20, this a 90 Vs 10%(At best), the vast majority of men enjoy having roasties liberated because they are getting more sex that they were capable of getting like, 40 years ago.
It's just that we are the losers of the sexual market.
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
Shocker. Looks matter. It's almost as if guys don't want to interact/date/fuck ugly women either.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-13
We only care about personality
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
That is such complete and utter bs. lol
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-13
i seriously do.
1 LinksLight 2018-05-13
The point for me is men cruelly judging women isn't a taboo. It's OK to complain about that with friends, write articles about it, etc but people are angry and defensive about the idea that women can do the same. This sub is an extreme to meet an extreme. Take away societys, women don't care how men look, mindset, and you take away this subs power.
1 subhumanforever 2018-05-13
Lmao. You guys really are meme material.
1 Detoxification- 2018-05-13
They literally do. Try Tinder.
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
I do, I swipe left a ton, because I'd rather stick my dick in crazy than fugly.
1 Detoxification- 2018-05-13
Maybe you don't, but many men do (even average looking guys).
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
Many still isn't the same as all. It's why generalized statements don't actually help when making points like this or trying to expose shitty behavior. There's always going to be the wild card in it that contradicts the idea that all men/women behave a certain way.
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-13
Ugly women can get laid because there are men out there who will fuck anything. Ugly men are totally fucked unless they pay for it.
1 bcat124 2018-05-13
Women have insanely higher standards for looks than men. . That's the key difference.
I would kill to date a fit girl as ugly as me. But women are hypergamous and always date up.
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
Some women have very high standards than some men do, again, it's a generalized study and statement. Unless one of those statistical charts are done against the literal entire population of the globe, using it as 'The Word of Law' is only going to make things depressing for you. It's a drop in an ocean in comparisons, the world is a vast place with a great number of people with tastes and opinions, preferences and desires.
But touching on something else you got there. "I would kill to date a fit girl as ugly as me." so you're saying she would have to be fit, she couldn't be average/heavy at all, right? Because by that very notion you're doing the same thing they are. Women are shallow, so are men.
1 bcat124 2018-05-13
She would have to be fit because I am fit, and sports is one of the main copes I have in life. I wouldn't mind if she was fat and wanted to get fit. I would date her and assist her to lose weight and get into sports.
Also, Yes men are shallow, but they have much lower standards than women, which gives a chance to much more women than men. You know this is true. Everybody does. It's always easier for a woman to find a date than a man of the same attractiveness.
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
Ok, so you've got standards and preferences, that doesn't qualify you as involuntarily targeted. That means you have standards and preferences, the women you're after dont share your opinions for one reason or another, call it looks, call it attitude, call it confidence, etc. But you also cannot say that you have no chance if you also refuse to remain open to less than perfect idealized women either.
As for the last bit, yeah I know that's true, as you said, everyone does. That doesn't make it unfair, it falls back into preferences and standards of self. If a guy doesn't want to stick his dick in someone he considers ugly, then a woman is no less wrong to not want to be fucked by someone she considers ugly either. It's tit for tat.
1 bcat124 2018-05-13
What I said "I would kill to date a girl as ugly as me"
What you understood:
LOL
1 lonely_suicidal_cel 2018-05-13
Low IQ normie
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
You said she has to be fit as you, meaning you refuse to date someone who's average/heavier than you, regardless if she has intentions to go to the gym or not 'because it's important to me'.
Which is more important to you, potential life long partnership with someone who appreciates you and cares for you because of the person you are, or someone that makes you look good as a couple when you're out together so you feel more validated in the eyes of other people.
As a unrelated toss in, I really hate the response time limit in this subreddit. I had this ready 9 minutes ago. -.-
1 bcat124 2018-05-13
A girl as ugly as me would absolutely NOT "make me look good as a couple" but I don't give a shit if she truly cares about me.
I don't refuse to date someone who is heavier than me, I refuse to date someone who doesn't wish to put effort into improving his physical health. It's a character trait. And there is NO double standard here. "Fatcel = volcel" is a popular saying among incels.
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
So you're more worried about how people view you as a couple than how you feel about her in a relationship/how she treats you?
See, this is the thing that strikes me as ironic. Incels, by the very idea, is involuntarily celibacy because of uncontrollable factors such as appearance, height, skin color, which makes them unable to land a girl for casual sex or long term relationships.
And yet by your own admissions, you're more worried about appearances than depth and character value. So why are you involuntarily celibate again?
1 bcat124 2018-05-13
You literally understood the polar opposite of what I said.
You have reading comprehension problems. Im gonna stop answering you.
1 BetUrProcrastinating 2018-05-13
damn so normies spell out all of this bullshit self improvement crap to us and then think it's fair that we have to date late thirties, obese single mothers because no other girl is interested in us, lol.
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
No other girls are interested, or your views on what women should be is so askew that you don't see the ones who are interested?
Honestly, that's something I struggle with too, I suck at some social cues. I can never tell when someone is flirting with me unless someone points it out to me after the fact. Been like that my entire life and I guarantee you for a lot of you it's the exact same thing. You aren't seeing the flirting, you aren't getting the signals and it sucks. But that's a You/Me problem, not a Them problem.
1 BetUrProcrastinating 2018-05-13
What are my views on women? I'm not a misogynist or anything, and I don't buy into a lot of the stuff posted here. Don't assume all incels are the same. I (personally) have not noticed girls interested in me. I have quite a small friend group, I don't fit in well with other people my age in the same area, etc. so I don't meet a lot of girls. The ones I do meet, I talk to at least a bit, but I've never gotten any indication of any interest.
I suppose it's possible that some girl I talked to a few times may have been interested in me, but I kind of doubt it. And even if they were, how would I have any way of knowing it? I don't think it's fair to assume I'm just missing signals.
I'm not saying it's a "them" problem, either. I don't really think it's anyone's fault that I have terrible social skills. I was just expressing my anger that people in IT tell us incels we need to improve all of the time, but then we're being shallow if we're not willing to settle with someone who doesn't care about their body, and is far older than us.
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
If I come across as an asshole, I do apologize. Getting through to the heart of a lot of social related issues requires taking a very blunt approach.
IncelTears is a troll faction if there ever was one, that's very true. I've been on there as well, afaik I haven't actually posted anything up there because everything I've seen from their perspective is really stupid. That's why I come here to see things from the source rather than hearsay. There is a lot of anger around here, but I do feel like a lot of it is also missplaced and childish ranting, but it builds up a following of like minded consensus because other people feel jaded and left out and that's a slippery slope.
No one should settle, however, you also have to be realistic as well. When you have people going around spouting nonsense about they deserve this and that, that they feel entitled to this and that, that becomes a dangerous mentality and that's a good reason why a lot of women straight up wouldn't want to be with someone like that.
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
If I come across as an asshole, I do apologize. Getting through to the heart of a lot of social related issues requires taking a very blunt approach.
IncelTears is a troll faction if there ever was one, that's very true. I've been on there as well, afaik I haven't actually posted anything up there because everything I've seen from their perspective is really stupid. That's why I come here to see things from the source rather than hearsay. There is a lot of anger around here, but I do feel like a lot of it is also missplaced and childish ranting, but it builds up a following of like minded consensus because other people feel jaded and left out and that's a slippery slope.
No one should settle, however, you also have to be realistic as well. When you have people going around spouting nonsense about they deserve this and that, that they feel entitled to this and that, that becomes a dangerous mentality and that's a good reason why a lot of women straight up wouldn't want to be with someone like that.
1 BetUrProcrastinating 2018-05-13
thank you. I wish more normies I encountered were as understanding as you. I agree that this community is doing more harm than good, but at the same time, it is naive to think that incels are incel BECAUSE of this community. We were incels before discovering this; our active participation in this community didn't suddenly make us "incel."
The problem is there is nowhere else for us to go. We were completely rejected by society. Where do we go for inclusion and camaraderie?
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
Nah, I get that the mantle of being an incel is a precursor to joining the incel online community. But because of the stigma that has become of BEING an incel, I would suggest a rebranding. Into what, I'm not entirely sure, but due to those extreme minds and attitudes and the representation they've caused through the old r/incels and places like incel.me, I would think that if anyone who does associate as it and wants to be taken more seriously and genuinely considered a normal person, who just happens to have hit some shitty dice in the game of life. Reinvention isn't a bad idea.
This is also why I've said on other occasions that those extreme attitudes need to be dealt with from within the community rather than having outsiders, like myself, come in and square off with them. It's the exact same thing that has to happen with Extremists in any community, be it religion or social networks. While all may not agree on the same ideals, all represent the whole by the way they talk and project themselves around here too.
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1 LinksLight 2018-05-13
The unfair is that society lets people talk about men's standards but not women's.
1 sailorgangordie 2018-05-13
Look up "pig woman experiment"
If you can replicate those results with her male equvilant (obese fedora wearing neckbeard) I will send you $100 in BTC dead fucking serious.
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
So, you're mad because some men are weak willed and desperate for pussy but women aren't as desperate for dick? Shouldn't you be getting mad at other men for shitty standards and not women for theirs?
Or, I think I get this, because women aren't desperate for dick and can get it from literally anyone they want (case in point with that provided abomination that I shall never be able to unsee. Thanks for that.) ya'll think that ALL women should be down to fuck ANY guy just because some men have shown that they'll do the same.
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-13
When given data that shows womeb don't want to looksmatch as much as men you immediately shout "BUT MEN ALSO"
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
Am I wrong?
1 BigLebowskiBot 2018-05-13
You're not wrong, Walter, you're just an asshole.
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
Funny enough I've had people call me Walter White a few times lol
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-13
Essentially when claiming men are just as shallow as women yes
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
Perhaps you feel you arent, but I can say with absolute certainty men can be just as shallow.
Hell there's a movie out about it with Jack Black. 'Shallow Hal'
It doesn't change the fact that a lot of men are desperate mongrels looking for anything to fuck, but that has nothing to do with standards, literally.
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-13
Let's see some proof then
Well unlike you I don't base my views on society based off of hollywood movies but instead actual [data](looks_ratings_101_nearly_all_studies_show_a)
If we are s bunch of disgusting mongrels (nice racism btw) who will fuck anything then how is that not related to "our standards"
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-13
It IS apparently a "shocker" to all the lying imbeciles who come around here saying our looks aren't the problem.
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
Your looks are a factor, shitty attitudes play a big part in it too though.
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-13
No, they play zero part. You can have a shitty attitude and get laid. You can't be ugly and get laid (as a man).
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
That's bs, look around you, go to the mall, go to a park, go somewhere offline and pay attention to the world at large and see how many couples you see that are idealistic perfect people. Everyone has flaws of some kind.
Don't use Tinder examples or the shit you see on Reddit as your world view to create opinions, it's a keyhole against the whole picture. You have to be in the world to actually see it for what it is.
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-13
There are two types of men who are part of a couple: Attractive ones, and men who were attractive when they met and got uglier because they aged.
And anyway, we're not talking about mere "flaws." We incels don't even count as men to females because of the way we look.
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
Again, that's bs, go into the world and you'll see couples where men aren't what you would define as attractive with women who are, or arent. Or women who aren't attractive with guys you may consider are. And that's because beauty/attraction is in eyes of the beholder. What one person finds attractive, another person wont. What one person finds endearing and cute, another finds quirky and weird.
You don't count as men to what women?
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-13
>Again, that's bs, go into the world and you'll see couples where men aren't what you would define as attractive with women who are, or arent.
Yeah, because they AGED. They used to be attractive. Every time.
> Or women who aren't attractive with guys you may consider are.
Yes, because men don't have the same outrageous standards as women.
>And that's because beauty/attraction is in eyes of the beholder.
Utter nonsense. If it were subjective, we wouldn't have sex symbols with overlapping features.
>You don't count as men to what women?
Nope. When women talk about considering guys who aren't "conventionally attractive"/"aren't the best looking guys," they aren't picturing guys who look like us. If they saw what we looked like, they would go, "...oh. Shit, I forgot about people who look like you."
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
So you absolutely and without question deny that ugly couples exist who aren't old. Interesting.
BS, yes men have outrageous standards for women. All men? No. Do all women have outrageous standards/expectations for all men? No they dont. Do some? Absolutely, on both sides.
It's not nonsense, you've just been one of the millions of other people who have been subject to the push of specific ideal male/female body image, grooming styles, clothing styles that you're right there with so many others who believe that. I'm a nudist, do you know how many nudists are super model level? Very, very few, especially here in the Western side of the world. Go to a nudist beach or a nudist resort where it's mandatory and see what you've got. Old, young, fat, skinny, toned, flabby, smooth skin, rough skin, hairy, smooth, white, black, asian, etc. It's all there and you know what? Oh and yes, small and big dicked people and guess what, even the small dicked men have women too. Nudism blows the whole body image thing out because you aren't trying to make up for something by covering yourself up, so yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Just like how you can find one person attractive for skin tone, hair color, ethnicity and someone else may not.
Maybe because 'guys like you' hide off online and in the shadows and dont make yourselves as visible. Because you're ashamed of the way you look. If you take yourself out of the equation then you can't be considered part of it by default. This goes back to, I do not believe in the entire 'Incel' idea.
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-13
Women rate 80+% of men as below medium in attractiveness. Men rate only 50% of women as below medium in attractiveness.
Ugly women who join dating websites get bombarded with messages. Unattractive men who join dating websites don't get a single message.
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
And the funny thing is, that's an issue propagated by Men, not women.
If a lot of men weren't so desperate to get their dicks wet by anything with a hole and a pulse (sometimes) then a lot of women wouldn't feel so empowered to be able to be so selective about it either.
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-13
Point remains, ugly men are fucked.
1 BetUrProcrastinating 2018-05-13
How do you know how we act in real life?
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-13
That's a valid point - that's actually why I don't believe many of you are legitimate and are just trolls or looking for 'lulz'. Thing that bugs me about that is there very well could be some easily impressionable people who come through here looking for genuine advice about relationship issues and instead they get a bunch of guys all telling them they're screwed, they should rope, they shouldn't even bother trying anymore and join the bandwagon.
1 BetUrProcrastinating 2018-05-13
Most incels are trolls about the really obvious stuff i.e. "roastie" comments, if you don't look like this in 2018 it's over, etc. I have it on pretty good authority that most people here don't act this way in real life, considering I've never heard any stories about people meeting self proclaimed "incels" irl. In my opinion, the average incel probably is very quiet, shy, and awkward in real life. I say this on some authority from being in incel/4chan type communities for a while, and also from how I percieve my own behavior. The average incel probably has had poor romantic success because of a mix of bad social skills and poor looks.
I never understood the attitude argument/"you're incel b/c you post on a misogynist board" arguments because we only discovered this place AFTER being rejected by girls for years. It's not like we were completely well adjusted and stumbled upon /r/braincels and now we're woman hating sociopaths.
1 sailorgangordie 2018-05-13
Men rate 50% of women as below average aka normal distribution bell curve. Women rate 80% of men below average aka extremely left skewed curve.
1 LinksLight 2018-05-13
Guys are constantly critsised and shamed for their supposed looks standard
1 jewishsupremacist88 2018-05-13
being black pilled at a young age is unfortunate. it ages you alot faster
1 CommonMisspellingBot 2018-05-13
Hey, jewishsupremacist88, just a quick heads-up:
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1 bentencho 2018-05-13
Delete this horse shit, whoever wrote this deserves a beating
1 Uggocel 2018-05-13
They made this specifically for normies so they can laugh at our typos. Not even our writing skills can escape inceldom.
1 bentencho 2018-05-13
Mods ban the bot
1 pennycenturie 2018-05-13
Normies shit on other normies for typographical errors, too.
1 pennycenturie 2018-05-13
What a weird thing to be hostile about
1 neverwinxii 2018-05-13
Take your shitty bot elsewhere. You'll never be a software engineer and you should just stop trying
1 Rhodri_Kraakman 2018-05-13
bad bot
1 escapetheinceldom 2018-05-13
This stupid bot is allowed to post here but botcel isn't.
1 michaelochurch 2018-05-13
Normies like me know, of course, that looks matter. You'd have to be naive not to see that.
We don't blame it on women, because it's not women's fault. Men are just as shitty in this way. If anything, women deal with more prejudice than men for their looks.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-13
THANK YOU
1 bcat124 2018-05-13
That is not true. Ugly women can still get hookups and dates. Women have higher standards than men. Ugly men have it much worse. That's why there are no female incels.
1 wolfinwhitevan 2018-05-13
do you know that the term incel was coined by a woman? that you literally took a movement started by a queer woman and turned it into a group exclusively for angry men?
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-13
Do you know that comment had nothing to do with anytning you're replying to?
1 wolfinwhitevan 2018-05-13
"that's why there are no female incels"
my point is that there are
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-13
And it's been proven women can find relationships and sex much easier than men
1 wolfinwhitevan 2018-05-13
why are you intentionally avoiding my point? the person said "there are no female incels." he is wrong. that is all. incel means someone who is "involuntarily celibate." there's nothing that says a woman can't be an incel.
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-13
I'm not, you're point based off of who created the term "incel" is irrelevant to "can women be incels"
1 wolfinwhitevan 2018-05-13
It's not but ok
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-13
It's women's fault for LYING. That's the point of this sub.
1 harambeazn 2018-05-13
they deal with prejudice from other women lol. women like to shittalk each other. men will call a girl ugly, but will still bang her or give her gifts when given the chance.
1 wolfinwhitevan 2018-05-13
men will also kill/rape a bunch of women they don't know because they believe they're involved in a global conspiracy against them. but yeah, men have it worse.
1 Shazig 2018-05-13
Get this normie crap out of here
1 hirayama_ronin 2018-05-13
From r/blackpillscience
8000 years ago one man would have children with 17 women and the other 16 men would have no children
There is a powerful, gendered inequality at work here, whether you like it or not.
1 movielover2018 2018-05-13
Obviously. How the fuck do IT fags deny this
1 subhumanforever 2018-05-13
Even a fucking femoid admits to this, and you still have retards on here saying "iTz y0uR PuRsUhNaLItEE"
1 Detoxification- 2018-05-13
Told you so.
1 imadethistoshitpostt 2018-05-13
Ive been on reddit since 2011 and the blackpill is having a noticeable effect on its discourse.
I think because of Incels' taboo nature the lurker effect is even more pronounced than in other subreddits and a lot more people are pondering on the effect that lookism and women's sexual strategy has on them and their lives, even more than we realize.
Very interesting stuff.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-13
Shit really? Fuck I hope not, small communities get destroyed when they go mainstream. We already have a fakecel and femcel issue...
1 empatheticapathetic 2018-05-13
In the future the ‘blackpill’ is going to be a monetised cultural trend. Stacies will be wearing t shirts that say “I embrace the black pill”.
1 leafbitter 2018-05-13
Stacies know how to creep into everything.
1 Skinnypotato5 2018-05-13
what is "blackpill"?
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-13
Hard truths.
1 Skinnypotato5 2018-05-13
what hard truths?
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-13
Life's.
1 Skinnypotato5 2018-05-13
details, man
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-13
No.
1 Le_Reddit_Elder 2018-05-13
Lmao the "incel culture is based off this" is me. I'M FAMOUS YAY
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-13
You still ain't gettin no ass tho
1 Le_Reddit_Elder 2018-05-13
Read my other comments in this sub, I said I have a gf and have slept with like 3 other girls while in university.....
1 The_Real_Cannaman 2018-05-13
Gtfo
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-13
Fukn normies spamming our beloved board..
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-13
I once commented that I had sex with Emma Watson when I worked as a Las Vegas electrician. No one believed me either.
1 Moonbutt2 2018-05-13
They finally admit it
1 Westcoastincel 2018-05-13
fml
1 mikepencetheincel 2018-05-13
Askreddit is more blackpilled than braincels
1 genericpajeet 2018-05-13
Normies/Chads mostly accept the blackpill. It's cucktears and roasties who are vehemently against it.
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-13
who's that absolute gangsta who name dropped us lol
1 Mr-Mercedes- 2018-05-13
Dear Lord, stick this forever
1 Wateryoudoinglater 2018-05-13
Do you incels believe that they are not a part of society and dont make value judgements based on appearance yourselves?
You literally post daily about how every woman is a whore.
1 trevmon 2018-05-13
reeeeeeeeee
1 pennycenturie 2018-05-13
Actually, r/braincels seems to post verbally and ideologically violent content a lot less than the old r/incels. The closest thing to the old r/incels is r/maleforeveralone. I see the top posts on this sub daily and they're extremely tame compared to the stuff a year ago. It also seems like there are fewer normies in r/braincels than there were in the old r/incels, so it's the actual self-identifying incels that are pivoting their energy away from toxic shit, not normies and normie lurkers influencing the tone of the sub towards the more civilized attitude it's got now.
I rarely see "women are whores" here. I see it, and especially its more subcultural iteration "roasties," etc. but not here as much as you'd think, it being the replacement for r/incels. The space for them to talk about their struggles seems to have potential as a positive tool, in this particular manifestation.
1 ufo_abductee 2018-05-13
That comment is posted at least 50 times a day here lmao
1 pennycenturie 2018-05-13
It's just that a lot of this sub is memes and discussions that employ a much more passive tone than the posts in r/maleforeveralone that include really abrasive language about women. Because of this, I just think this sub is tame and more reasonable than other incel communities. I don't feel, like, hurt reading the language here, ever. In r/maleforeveralone, I feel like I've been punched.
1 moggedbyall 2018-05-13
TEEEEEEMOTHERFUCKINHEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-13
THE GREAT INCEL AWAKENING!!
1 trevmon 2018-05-13
tzke the supreme pill
1 ButtholeEmoji 2018-05-13
People love to congratulate themselves for noticing it but no one ever wants to fix it. Smh
1 LinksLight 2018-05-13
Free cosmetics surgery for all?
1 sfcel 2018-05-13
Ban makeup, problem fixed.
1 oksidasyon 2018-05-13
goyim knows shut it down
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
Most "normies" don't dispute this. Only retards on IT.
I'm a "normie", banned from the original incels sub on here. But look at my post history, I've never ever denied this.
That's not what people object to in your culture, again - other than the retards in IT.
But I think the recent example where IT went to the front page has proven they don't speak for the larger population.
1 ZolladiterraSudata 2018-05-13
What example? Can u link it for me pls?
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
I'll try, give me a moment. But just briefly - they got "sub of the month" or something and it propelled them to the front page of Reddit.
Anyway - when the whole of Reddit got on board, they overwhelming sided with the Incels and really laid into IT for being a bunch of cunts.
1 ZolladiterraSudata 2018-05-13
Oh ok thanks dont worry take ur time
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
Sorry, not sure if you caught the edit. I bailed on finding it for you. Only because I didn't post in the thread so it's not in my history. But you should be able to find it, it wasn't that long ago.
1 ZolladiterraSudata 2018-05-13
Yea dont worry thanks buddy
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
u/ZolladiterraSudata
Here you go, bud
1 BADGER_077 2018-05-13
The A.C.A. will return
1 BigBooty-AsianLady 2018-05-13
I'm a nice to look at woman that swallows the blackpill, hence why I hang out here and sympathize with incels. I think a lot of people actually do at some level.
1 abh985 2018-05-13
I’d have to agree tbh. Blackpill is definitely real. One of my good friends fits the “incel” bill and he is kinda not so good looking and has low self-esteeem. He gets rejected by every girl he likes and gets depressed. Once he even shared a “Chad vs. Virgin meme” on a friend group which makes me think he browses this board.
I can’t deny good-looks help in life since I’ve benefited from them but I still think for most average guys not getting relationships/sex is not an issue. If you are really ugly then yeah it is a problem.
1 DankIncel 2018-05-13
Holy fuck is that a normie saying "they aren't wrong"??? How come the ones coming here are just here to shit all over us then?
1 Shazoa 2018-05-13
I think it's deeper - most people accept that looks matter, but if you're average you can help yourself with self improvement, get yourself out there, and be successful.
Incels are the exception. They are not average. Average advice does not work. People aren't afraid of admitting that attractiveness is a barrier to getting sex snd relationships, they don't want to admit that for some people it is a nigh insurmountable barrier.
1 genetically_cursed 2018-05-13
Great catch, bro. u/iQ9k u/Board_Gaming sticky this
1 frankwashere44 2018-05-13
Just wear fakeup
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-13
THANK YOU
1 bcat124 2018-05-13
That is not true. Ugly women can still get hookups and dates. Women have higher standards than men. Ugly men have it much worse. That's why there are no female incels.
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-13
It's women's fault for LYING. That's the point of this sub.
1 harambeazn 2018-05-13
they deal with prejudice from other women lol. women like to shittalk each other. men will call a girl ugly, but will still bang her or give her gifts when given the chance.
1 Shazig 2018-05-13
Get this normie crap out of here
1 hirayama_ronin 2018-05-13
From r/blackpillscience
8000 years ago one man would have children with 17 women and the other 16 men would have no children
There is a powerful, gendered inequality at work here, whether you like it or not.
1 bcat124 2018-05-13
A girl as ugly as me would absolutely NOT "make me look good as a couple" but I don't give a shit if she truly cares about me.
I don't refuse to date someone who is heavier than me, I refuse to date someone who doesn't wish to put effort into improving his physical health. It's a character trait. And there is NO double standard here. "Fatcel = volcel" is a popular saying among incels.
1 BetUrProcrastinating 2018-05-13
damn so normies spell out all of this bullshit self improvement crap to us and then think it's fair that we have to date late thirties, obese single mothers because no other girl is interested in us, lol.
1 Black__philip 2018-05-13
Does Ricky gervais for example seem unhappy to you?
1 ZolladiterraSudata 2018-05-13
Dear lord imagine a stacy from california saying that.
1 leafbitter 2018-05-13
Suppository? Make them swallow the black pill, vomit it, and then swallow the black pill vomit back.
1 leafbitter 2018-05-13
Stacies know how to creep into everything.
1 Yadnarav 2018-05-13
all i needed was a "yes," not your whole pathetic life story
1 CptBeetle 2018-05-13
u/ZolladiterraSudata
Here you go, bud