You are entitled to your own body. If your family is a religious nut job and jerking off makes them sad that doesn’t mean you have to stop jerking off because they will be sad.
No you’re not. Tell the ants and bugs that are crawling on your body that you are entitled to your own body and see what happens. Your body is of nature.
Because the only way you can be entitled to your own body is if you created yourself
Why do you believe this?
Does this mean that biological parents are the only people entitled to their children's bodies, including when the children are adults? Or do you believe something other than that?
Well, a suicidalcel's got nothing to lose. He'll never find a sweetheart to make love to, so he may as well get HIV or something from an escort, so he has a good reason to rope ASAP.
It's more sad that we're not entitled to a guaranteed death for real. Why should people have to risk failing a suicide attempt (chances of failing are really high) and then having to go through worse?
This is actually a good reason to not attempt suicide, even when all the other reasons that would people suggest are inapplicable, are useless platitudes, or just don't resonate with the suicidal person. Most methods of suicide will leave you still alive just as often as not, or way more often than not. And they leave you mutilated or brain-damaged, and you may be so closely monitored after your attempt that you won't get a real chance to try again. Even direct gunshot wounds to the head have only an 80% fatality rate. What do you think happens to the other 20%? They can't end their lives after that, when they're unable to move or speak and are trapped in a medical bed hooked up to wires and monitors. Is that a chance you'd want to take?
It's a good argument for people who are considering or planning on using those methods. Not many people are aware of anything that could be more effective. And what method(s) is/are completely (or almost completely) guaranteed to be lethal, that are also realistic? Gunshot wounds to the head, throat cutting, and some types of rapid-acting poisons/toxins are extreme already, and they still don't promise death -- but they do promise even more suffering than before should the person survive the experience (unless the person interprets the experience in a transformative way, or something along those lines). Of those, throat- and forearm-cutting tend to be too painful and usually cause the fear of death to kick in, even if you wanted nothing more than death before. Some methods, like leaping from a multistory building, still aren't guaranteed to work (which is how we know that jumping is also incredibly terrifying and most people who survive report wishing that they hadn't jumped even as they fell).
It's because some incels think that the majority of women who attempt suicide aren't serious about dying. The idea is that women get everything handed to them on a platter, so there's no cause for them to be depressed. In this line of thought, most suicide attempts made by women are better thought of as cries for attention (but for attention from men in general, rather than medical professionals and psychologists). When you mentioned multiple attempts, it was interpreted by some readers as yet more evidence that suicidal women aren't really suicidal, or else they'd have "gotten it right" the first or second time around. So you were downvoted to hell for saying that you're a girl, that you have depression, and that you made multiple suicide attempts, all of which you survived. There might be other reasons that I'm unaware of. (It is true that men are far, far more likely to successfully commit suicide than women, but the reasons for that are, at this point, still a matter of debate.)
For those who support legalized suicide/euthanasia: Do you think that suicide (euthanasia) should be legal under all circumstances? If not, which conditions should qualify a person for euthanasia? Should depression (or chronic depression) be a condition that qualifies a person for legal or assisted suicide? Should lifelong lack of social success (which would, admittedly, be difficult or impossible to separate from depression) qualify someone? Are there any other emotional/mental conditions or life circumstances that should cause a person to qualify for legalized suicide?
There are (obviously) quite a few circumstances that should should cause a rejection of assisted or legaluzed suicide, these, put in short, being age, mental capabilities, actions during life, social status, and disabilities (there may be a few others i didn't mention). Age is obvious, along with mental capabilities, i find that direct actions during life should be a gauntlet to run through for assisted/legal suicide because:
Imagine that you are a... I don't know, Children of God cult member, look at what you may have done lets go with, child prostitution, prostitution, and kidnapping. You honestly don't deserve the right to commit suicide as you have committed heinous crimes, so you will serve your sentence in jail (like the piece of sh... i'm getting off topic, but fuck the CoG) i believe that, to commit suicide all of your dice have to be already rolled, as in, you need to be at a good stopping point in life. This would not be a good point because you are a criminal.
Social Status is another problem, the current United States president needs to stay in office because he is crucial to the survival of everyone else. But thats my opinion.
Disabilities is also pretty obvious, if you have no arms or legs, you are pretty fucked and i know that i would commit suicide.
Depression should always be a condition for suicide, however, as many services as possible need to be administered to stop suicide, suicide is horrible.
Lack of success is a large variable, i'll use a reference, my fatger is at the point where he cannot retire, but he will have to work for the rest of his life (he works as a freelance framer). This is so hard on him, and eventually he would have to quit, i would have no problem paying for government assisted suicide for him as long as he knows what hes getting into. However, if you have constantly had problems finding women (Hint hint, i don't hate incels, but some of you really fucking annoy me.) you should not be allowed the ability to commit suicide, atleast on government property because you will probably live a long happy life.
I don't really care if you try to commit suicide, just know what you're getting into, especially if your family and friends are unaware of your feelings.
i believe that, to commit suicide all of your dice have to be already rolled, as in, you need to be at a good stopping point in life.
Why do you believe that?
Depression should always be a condition for suicide
Why?
however, as many services as possible need to be administered to stop suicide, suicide is horrible.
I agree with this. Depression can be lifelong, but most people have either one or two episodes, or they periodically fluctuate between depression and their "usual" mental state. When not in a depressive episode, people can be shocked at just how different they feel -- from like a hopeless corpse to bursting with light and vitality. I worry about euthanasia for conditions like depression because depression usually isn't permanent, but when you have it, it changes the way you think, and your priorities. Getting into a university or your siblings' feelings might not feel as though they "matter" as much. Get out of that state, and the things that you cared about before but lost interest in will become interesting and important again.
don't really care if you try to commit suicide
Different strokes for different folks, I suppose (not everyone has the time or interest). I do care. If there's anyone here who's been thinking about suicide but isn't sure that they really want to go through with it, please feel free to PM me if you'd like. The same goes if you want to hurt yourself but aren't sure. And the same also goes if you're trapped in an episode of extreme emotional upset (e.g., despair, rage, or jealousy) and want to vent. I'm not a professional counselor (just a cog neuro and evo psych grad student), but I'm willing to listen. If you want, I can also try to offer non-platitude advice (although I would need to know something about a person's specific situation in order to try to offer advice specific to their situation). Don't worry, I won't say that your personality is shitty, or that you just need to shower in pure liquified confidence and drink a charisma and personality-boosting shake (don't forget the quinoa!) every morning.
I just feel like it should be a requirement, it provides closure to family and friends, and to yourself, i wouldn't just commit suicide while in prison because that would make me feel worse to be honest. To give it a metaphor, it would be like eating half of a sandwich, then putting it in the fridge when the trashcan is only a few feet away. But thats just my opinion.
Generally i get pretty depressed during Winter and Spring, alot of times i think of suicide, however i always come out fine. But, for people with chronic ongoing, justifiable, depression, it may not end for years at a time. I would not want to be stuck in constant sadness, anger, etcetera because being sad sucks. And it's bad for your health. I would just want to end it by the time it gets to me.
There are (obviously) quite a few circumstances that should should cause a rejection of assisted or legaluzed suicide, these, put in short, being age, mental capabilities, actions during life, social status, and disabilities (there may be a few others i didn't mention). Age is obvious, along with mental capabilities, i find that direct actions during life should be a gauntlet to run through for assisted/legal suicide because:
Imagine that you are a... I don't know, Children of God cult member, look at what you may have done lets go with, child prostitution, prostitution, and kidnapping. You honestly don't deserve the right to commit suicide as you have committed heinous crimes, so you will serve your sentence in jail (like the piece of sh... i'm getting off topic, but fuck the CoG) i believe that, to commit suicide all of your dice have to be already rolled, as in, you need to be at a good stopping point in life. This would not be a good point because you are a criminal.
Social Status is another problem, the current United States president needs to stay in office because he is crucial to the survival of everyone else. But thats my opinion.
Disabilities is also pretty obvious, if you have no arms or legs, you are pretty fucked and i know that i would commit suicide.
Depression should always be a condition for suicide, however, as many services as possible need to be administered to stop suicide, suicide is horrible.
Lack of success is a large variable, i'll use a reference, my fatger is at the point where he cannot retire, but he will have to work for the rest of his life (he works as a freelance framer). This is so hard on him, and eventually he would have to quit, i would have no problem paying for government assisted suicide for him as long as he knows what hes getting into. However, if you have constantly had problems finding women (Hint hint, i don't hate incels, but some of you really fucking annoy me.) you should not be allowed the ability to commit suicide, atleast on government property because you will probably live a long happy life.
I don't really care if you try to commit suicide, just know what you're getting into, especially if your family and friends are unaware of your feelings.
35 comments
1 throwawayricecel 2018-05-13
Yes you are. It’s your life nigga do as you please.
1 extraWill 2018-05-13
it posters will screenshot your comment and make us out as violent racists
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-13
Actually no. If you suicide you will be making a lot of people sad. So he actually is not entitled to suicide, no one is entitled to anything.
1 RegisteredLolicon 2018-05-13
Unless you're female then you have entitlements, eeheet
1 throwawayricecel 2018-05-13
You are entitled to your own body. If your family is a religious nut job and jerking off makes them sad that doesn’t mean you have to stop jerking off because they will be sad.
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-13
You don’t have to stop but just know that you aren’t entitled to it
1 throwawayricecel 2018-05-13
You’re entitled to your own body.
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-13
No you’re not. Tell the ants and bugs that are crawling on your body that you are entitled to your own body and see what happens. Your body is of nature.
1 throwawayricecel 2018-05-13
Wtf is this tree hugger nonsense?
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-13
Tree hugger? Do you think you created your own body? Because the only way you can be entitled to your own body is if you created yourself
1 ap018734 2018-05-13
Are women not entitled to their bodies either?
1 Quixificent 2018-05-13
Why do you believe this?
Does this mean that biological parents are the only people entitled to their children's bodies, including when the children are adults? Or do you believe something other than that?
1 ademonlikeyou 2018-05-13
my name jeff
1 movielover2018 2018-05-13
You really going to die a virgin bro?
1 thundrthy 2018-05-13
He’s gonna die a virgin. Sooner or later.
1 TurboTrashman 2018-05-13
Anything wrong with that?
1 movielover2018 2018-05-13
i think you should at least lose it to an escort. just get the experience first
1 TurboTrashman 2018-05-13
Well, a suicidalcel's got nothing to lose. He'll never find a sweetheart to make love to, so he may as well get HIV or something from an escort, so he has a good reason to rope ASAP.
1 IncelGolem 2018-05-13
Feminists made prostitution illegal.
1 lonely_suicidal_cel 2018-05-13
Escorts arent entitled to his money fuck you
1 Malmalam 2018-05-13
Sex is overrated
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-13
When in doubt, look at this https://i.redditmedia.com/BwDdsahF8l84_YHJbthpE64B90FIysI83hbTZD4tKxI.jpg?w=364&s=207a56e638bab945dda254f8b8d03be4
1 Nobodyknowsthetrueme 2018-05-13
It's more sad that we're not entitled to a guaranteed death for real. Why should people have to risk failing a suicide attempt (chances of failing are really high) and then having to go through worse?
1 Quixificent 2018-05-13
This is actually a good reason to not attempt suicide, even when all the other reasons that would people suggest are inapplicable, are useless platitudes, or just don't resonate with the suicidal person. Most methods of suicide will leave you still alive just as often as not, or way more often than not. And they leave you mutilated or brain-damaged, and you may be so closely monitored after your attempt that you won't get a real chance to try again. Even direct gunshot wounds to the head have only an 80% fatality rate. What do you think happens to the other 20%? They can't end their lives after that, when they're unable to move or speak and are trapped in a medical bed hooked up to wires and monitors. Is that a chance you'd want to take?
1 Sniveling_Cur 2018-05-13
What kind of retarded argument is this. Just don't use these methods then.
1 Quixificent 2018-05-13
It's a good argument for people who are considering or planning on using those methods. Not many people are aware of anything that could be more effective. And what method(s) is/are completely (or almost completely) guaranteed to be lethal, that are also realistic? Gunshot wounds to the head, throat cutting, and some types of rapid-acting poisons/toxins are extreme already, and they still don't promise death -- but they do promise even more suffering than before should the person survive the experience (unless the person interprets the experience in a transformative way, or something along those lines). Of those, throat- and forearm-cutting tend to be too painful and usually cause the fear of death to kick in, even if you wanted nothing more than death before. Some methods, like leaping from a multistory building, still aren't guaranteed to work (which is how we know that jumping is also incredibly terrifying and most people who survive report wishing that they hadn't jumped even as they fell).
1 Nobodyknowsthetrueme 2018-05-13
Funny how everyone's criticizing me here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/8j1ose/femoid_suicide_attempt_vs_male_suicide_attempt/dywb309/ for saying the same thing.
1 Quixificent 2018-05-13
It's because some incels think that the majority of women who attempt suicide aren't serious about dying. The idea is that women get everything handed to them on a platter, so there's no cause for them to be depressed. In this line of thought, most suicide attempts made by women are better thought of as cries for attention (but for attention from men in general, rather than medical professionals and psychologists). When you mentioned multiple attempts, it was interpreted by some readers as yet more evidence that suicidal women aren't really suicidal, or else they'd have "gotten it right" the first or second time around. So you were downvoted to hell for saying that you're a girl, that you have depression, and that you made multiple suicide attempts, all of which you survived. There might be other reasons that I'm unaware of. (It is true that men are far, far more likely to successfully commit suicide than women, but the reasons for that are, at this point, still a matter of debate.)
1 nofishtocatch 2018-05-13
On Mother's Day?
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-13
I remembered I'm going to die anyway, so why bother? Just LDAR.
1 MikeLitorus69 2018-05-13
Glad you didn't, it sounds cliche but things will get better. Please seek professional help
1 Wyten 2018-05-13
Yes, exactly.
1 Quixificent 2018-05-13
For those who support legalized suicide/euthanasia: Do you think that suicide (euthanasia) should be legal under all circumstances? If not, which conditions should qualify a person for euthanasia? Should depression (or chronic depression) be a condition that qualifies a person for legal or assisted suicide? Should lifelong lack of social success (which would, admittedly, be difficult or impossible to separate from depression) qualify someone? Are there any other emotional/mental conditions or life circumstances that should cause a person to qualify for legalized suicide?
1 Wyten 2018-05-13
There are (obviously) quite a few circumstances that should should cause a rejection of assisted or legaluzed suicide, these, put in short, being age, mental capabilities, actions during life, social status, and disabilities (there may be a few others i didn't mention). Age is obvious, along with mental capabilities, i find that direct actions during life should be a gauntlet to run through for assisted/legal suicide because:
Imagine that you are a... I don't know, Children of God cult member, look at what you may have done lets go with, child prostitution, prostitution, and kidnapping. You honestly don't deserve the right to commit suicide as you have committed heinous crimes, so you will serve your sentence in jail (like the piece of sh... i'm getting off topic, but fuck the CoG) i believe that, to commit suicide all of your dice have to be already rolled, as in, you need to be at a good stopping point in life. This would not be a good point because you are a criminal.
Social Status is another problem, the current United States president needs to stay in office because he is crucial to the survival of everyone else. But thats my opinion.
Disabilities is also pretty obvious, if you have no arms or legs, you are pretty fucked and i know that i would commit suicide.
Depression should always be a condition for suicide, however, as many services as possible need to be administered to stop suicide, suicide is horrible.
Lack of success is a large variable, i'll use a reference, my fatger is at the point where he cannot retire, but he will have to work for the rest of his life (he works as a freelance framer). This is so hard on him, and eventually he would have to quit, i would have no problem paying for government assisted suicide for him as long as he knows what hes getting into. However, if you have constantly had problems finding women (Hint hint, i don't hate incels, but some of you really fucking annoy me.) you should not be allowed the ability to commit suicide, atleast on government property because you will probably live a long happy life.
I don't really care if you try to commit suicide, just know what you're getting into, especially if your family and friends are unaware of your feelings.
1 Quixificent 2018-05-13
Why do you believe that?
Why?
I agree with this. Depression can be lifelong, but most people have either one or two episodes, or they periodically fluctuate between depression and their "usual" mental state. When not in a depressive episode, people can be shocked at just how different they feel -- from like a hopeless corpse to bursting with light and vitality. I worry about euthanasia for conditions like depression because depression usually isn't permanent, but when you have it, it changes the way you think, and your priorities. Getting into a university or your siblings' feelings might not feel as though they "matter" as much. Get out of that state, and the things that you cared about before but lost interest in will become interesting and important again.
Different strokes for different folks, I suppose (not everyone has the time or interest). I do care. If there's anyone here who's been thinking about suicide but isn't sure that they really want to go through with it, please feel free to PM me if you'd like. The same goes if you want to hurt yourself but aren't sure. And the same also goes if you're trapped in an episode of extreme emotional upset (e.g., despair, rage, or jealousy) and want to vent. I'm not a professional counselor (just a cog neuro and evo psych grad student), but I'm willing to listen. If you want, I can also try to offer non-platitude advice (although I would need to know something about a person's specific situation in order to try to offer advice specific to their situation). Don't worry, I won't say that your personality is shitty, or that you just need to shower in pure liquified confidence and drink a charisma and personality-boosting shake (don't forget the quinoa!) every morning.
1 Wyten 2018-05-13
I just feel like it should be a requirement, it provides closure to family and friends, and to yourself, i wouldn't just commit suicide while in prison because that would make me feel worse to be honest. To give it a metaphor, it would be like eating half of a sandwich, then putting it in the fridge when the trashcan is only a few feet away. But thats just my opinion.
Generally i get pretty depressed during Winter and Spring, alot of times i think of suicide, however i always come out fine. But, for people with chronic ongoing, justifiable, depression, it may not end for years at a time. I would not want to be stuck in constant sadness, anger, etcetera because being sad sucks. And it's bad for your health. I would just want to end it by the time it gets to me.
1 CommonMisspellingBot 2018-05-13
Hey, Wyten, just a quick heads-up:
alot is actually spelled a lot. You can remember it by it is one lot, 'a lot'.
Have a nice day!
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1 lonely_suicidal_cel 2018-05-13
All circumstances, you just need to be in the age of majority and all you have to do is apply.
1 thorsbeardexpress 2018-05-13
Cope!
1 therealjaster 2018-05-13
Plus, Deadpool 2 is this week... Rope can wait.
1 Parsa73 2018-05-13
Then remembered u can do bettER eh?
1 Wyten 2018-05-13
There are (obviously) quite a few circumstances that should should cause a rejection of assisted or legaluzed suicide, these, put in short, being age, mental capabilities, actions during life, social status, and disabilities (there may be a few others i didn't mention). Age is obvious, along with mental capabilities, i find that direct actions during life should be a gauntlet to run through for assisted/legal suicide because:
Imagine that you are a... I don't know, Children of God cult member, look at what you may have done lets go with, child prostitution, prostitution, and kidnapping. You honestly don't deserve the right to commit suicide as you have committed heinous crimes, so you will serve your sentence in jail (like the piece of sh... i'm getting off topic, but fuck the CoG) i believe that, to commit suicide all of your dice have to be already rolled, as in, you need to be at a good stopping point in life. This would not be a good point because you are a criminal.
Social Status is another problem, the current United States president needs to stay in office because he is crucial to the survival of everyone else. But thats my opinion.
Disabilities is also pretty obvious, if you have no arms or legs, you are pretty fucked and i know that i would commit suicide.
Depression should always be a condition for suicide, however, as many services as possible need to be administered to stop suicide, suicide is horrible.
Lack of success is a large variable, i'll use a reference, my fatger is at the point where he cannot retire, but he will have to work for the rest of his life (he works as a freelance framer). This is so hard on him, and eventually he would have to quit, i would have no problem paying for government assisted suicide for him as long as he knows what hes getting into. However, if you have constantly had problems finding women (Hint hint, i don't hate incels, but some of you really fucking annoy me.) you should not be allowed the ability to commit suicide, atleast on government property because you will probably live a long happy life.
I don't really care if you try to commit suicide, just know what you're getting into, especially if your family and friends are unaware of your feelings.
1 lonely_suicidal_cel 2018-05-13
All circumstances, you just need to be in the age of majority and all you have to do is apply.