Was she a landwhale

It's too late for most of us for it to matter. Porn addiction, ED, etc, guarantees it. You were never incel to begin with if you weren't past the breaking point.

When is the breaking point?

I steal Chad's girl

Pics?

That's some extreme shit.

Just gonna point out that porn addiction can be overcome. I did it.

Were you a Mentalcel?

You stole the validation infinity stone from the Hypergamon! Good job. Now you know you can do it, you can do it again. Even if it takes a week, a year, or a decade. Go work on your career, save up money, and see what the future holds.

See, that right there is why getting into a relationship is fucking worthless. Why would a women settle with me while they can easily get a man WAY more attractive than me?

You’ll get cucked if you even do get a girl.

Ever think it only had that huge effect on you because of the value you had already placed on it?

Don't get me wrong, it can definitely be a confidence booster and definitely takes women off the mental pedestal (if you have that problem), but it's not the life changing drug that a lot of people here seem to think it is.

You'll still be the same person you are now, just more experienced.

Placing value on it is fine, but a lot of people here seem to think it is the single most important thing in life.

It's not.

Freedom to pursue sex like chad is what every guy wants.

Not true. I'm married. The life I want is one where I never have sex with anyone else, ever. No amount of strange would be worth losing her.

Incels wish they had the sexual freedom of chad.

Freedom doesn't mean not getting rejected. Anyone can get rejected. Many women (most, when you're my age) are married. Some are lesbians. And even among heterosexual singles, even if you're hot, 70-80% of women are going to feel nothing. That's just how it works.

Freedom means not needing sex to thrive. If you think of sex as a scorecard, you'll sabotage yourself. Seeking approval, in any theatre of life, is a sure way not to get it.

Actually, 2018 is a great time to be a middle-of-the-road, decent guy in his 30s. Donald Trump is proving to the world what monsters these semi-attractive but arrogant "bad boy" shits turn into. More feminine, so-called "beta", men are very much in right now.

The losers who want to be promiscuous assholes, but can't pull it off, and don't care about affirmative consent, aren't in much demand. I have no sympathy.

Being "nice" isn't enough. You have to take care of yourself, become someone who's fun (not depressing) to be around, and invest a lot of time in finding the right person (which also means dealing with a lot of rejection). It's a lot of work, to find someone decent. It takes a decade on average and there are no shortcuts. On the whole, though, I think dating is much, much better than it was 15 years ago, and far better than 60 years ago.

In the 1950s, which a lot of men here seem to want to go back to, dead bedrooms and infidelity were a lot more common– people just didn't know about it. The feminist woman who tells you exactly what she wants is a lot less likely to leave you– if she marries you, you know she's seriously committed– than the traditionalist who reads rapey romance novels, thinks "a real man" will figure it out without regard to her needs (or even consent), and gets married because she thinks it's what society expects her to do.

Feminism is good. You should want their cause to win. It leads to better relationships and hotter sex.

Feminism is good

Feminism is anti-male on every front. The modern American (white) woman is the most entitled, spoiled, coddled creature to ever exist.

I have never seen someone cope this hard.

What do I have to cope with?

The fact that I'm not bedding 10 strangers every month? I don't want that life. I'm 34. That's way too old for that shit.

I'm old. I've seen the world change. In most ways, it's getting better. The sexual apocalypse– "there are no decent women left"– that incels rail about is total bullshit. The numbers don't bear it out.

You're cucked by your wife, having a stockholm syndrome, and now you want us to believe you lead a great life, as an old men with no sexual value whatsoever. Wake up, please. This is 100% cope.

Just as it is not rape that no one wants to have sex with you incels, because you are in no way entitled to women's bodies; I am not being cucked because I am not having sex with 10 strangers every month because, you know, we promised each other not to do that.

If you want to keep sabotaging yourself with fucked-up beliefs, though, go ahead.

You don't even have the chance to cheat on her. You're a low T man with few choices. Cheating is not a choice, it's based on the choices you have. If men have the choice, they cheat. That's why every soccerplayer cheats, while they have different characters. Yes, you are cuck in denial.

Cheating is not a choice, it's based on the choices you have. If men have the choice, they cheat. [...] It's time to put a man's uniform on. This is 2018.

False, and disgusting.

Believes like "everyone cheats" because "this is 2018" (what?) are why no one likes you.

I didn't say everyone cheats. I said every soccer player cheats. To make you understand that cheating is not a choice and has nothing to do with character. Same way not cheating is not a choice you made. It is because you don't have other opportunites. If you had, you would follow your nature as a man. Now you're stuck with an ugly wife, believing in true love and shit like that. But you're just being cucked by society and your wife. No real man talks the way you talk. That's not how a real man behaves nor should behave. That's a puppet in the hand of a woman.

To make you understand that cheating is not a choice and has nothing to do with character.

A "real man" cheats? A real man betrays the person in the world he loves the most? Are you fucking hearing yourself?

Again, this shit is why no one likes you. And you're not miserable because you aren't getting laid. You're miserable because no one likes you.

'No one likes you' lol. Nobody gives a damn about personality. You think you're a likeable person? Why do you behave like a dick on this board, then? You're nothing better, buddy. What you think of yourself is an illusion, it's all in your head. You're an anoying, unlikeable person.

Why do you behave like a dick on this board, then?

Because it's an echo chamber of terrible ideas that have been around for decades, and that lead to misogyny and murder.

Oh poor little man. Are you going to cry now. Cut this fucking crap and start behaving like a man, you low T faggot.

You're an incel, right?

I'm not.

Are you insulting him because you have nothing more to say?

Are you so afraid of a person in a real relationship that all you are reduced to is insults as some way to feel about yourself? It must be so threatening to feel so weak.

Reminder that shit like this is why no one wants anything to do with you worthless fucking losers.

But women want everything to do with psychopaths, abusers and murderers and send them loveletters in jail. As long as a man is good looking, they take everything. What you say has already been debunked by the halo and failo effect.

He is the one having sex in a stable relationship and HE is the one coping?

Everyone can say everything on the net. Don't believe anything.

He is married and having a sex in a stable relationship.

If you have a problem with that then it is a reflection on you and not him.

And you wonder why no woman wants anything to do with you.

Good luck with your marriage, you're going to need it in this day and age.

Holy shit what a total cope. Lmfao. You're beyond the pint of salvation.

In the 1950s, which a lot of men here seem to want to go back to, dead bedrooms and infidelity were a lot more common

They were a lot more common because women had to choose between financial security and an attractive partner.

Nowadays women don't have to marry someone out of financial security, so the guys who normally would get cheated on aren't even selected anymore. This is why we have incels.

now this is what we call a Judas

Feminism is good. You should want their cause to win. It leads to better relationships and hotter sex. It's better to get rejected 20 times when you're young than to marry at 21, because everyone's expected to do it, but get dead-bedroomed at 24 (which happened a lot in the '50s).

You sound like an neomancr alt, although you could just be a woman cosplaying, it is sad to think you're a really a man this cucked. I can never your alleged wife's attraction to you diminishing as she listens to you repeat this garbage that she and Left taught you say as a "shit test" that you failed.

In the 1950s, which a lot of men here seem to want to go back to, dead bedrooms and infidelity were a lot more common– people just didn't know about it. The feminist woman who tells you exactly what she wants is a lot less likely to leave you– if she marries you, you know she's seriously committed– than the traditionalist

The couples in the 1950 were cranking out 5 plus children, the only deadbedrooms going on were in feminist/Leftist households (same situation now). Getting a feminist to marry you, haha, that just means she's hit the Wall and needs to put her time with a Beta provider so she can milk him for resources with divorce-rape or an "open relationship."

Looks do not specifically get you laid. Chad still has to have skills to speak with girls enough to fuck them, so technically the sexual freedom is the same its just girls don't want to fuck an overweight greasy neckbearded anime fan. It's pretty simple shit honestly, so the option is there to clean up your own appearance and attempt to get a girl or just sit on here and complain. Obviously, you won't get an 8 if you are a 4, but you can get a 6 and MAYBE a 7 with hard enough work. Women care much less about appearance than men, but obviously still care. I'm probably Chad in looks, get laid quite a bit, but I'm not some like walking dick and can get any girl. Besides rich celebrities with looks, that isn't a reality people.

This is pure cope. Some good looking guys don't even talk to women to get them to sleep with them. Can't believe how hard you're coping.

LOL don't even talk to them? Probably the dumbest shit I've ever heard on here. What women do you hang around that care more about looks than money, intelligence, social status, etc? Oh yeah... You don't hang around women so you wouldn't know.

Lol, i go to the clubs regularly and Every 8+ man is flooded with attention from women, while the rest is struggling. You hear the convos of women in the club and the only thing they talk about is looks, looks, looks. They care ONLY about looks nowadays. As an 8+ man, you clean up the place. This is the same in the animal kingdom. Women select males based on looks/genes. It is what it is. You van cope if you want. Won't change reality.

Considering I am an 8+ male, sure you can go to clubs where the lowest scum of women are and get laid / probably catch an std but any girl with a little class isn't going to fuck you just on how you look. You will need to put in a little work, also all you are seeing is confirmation bias. The ones less than 8 probably aren't even approaching, but sure I'll keep coping or whatever. I still get laid regularly

Lol. You're not an 8+ you coping fool.

EVERY FUCKING TIME. Are you all just one person on this subreddit? Literally your logic is that "Chad's are everywhere fucking all these sluts!" but when one actually comes along or even remotely says that they are an 8 (for the record I was told by multiple women I'm an 8.5 but whatever you worn believe me) you immediately call bullshit. Which is it? Are Chad's everywhere or are they nowhere? They dont use reddit though, right? You are all the biggest fucking idiots. I'm so glad mainstream media and people know about you now too, it's hysterical.

Chad is not on Reddit buddy. Go post you pics on lookism or r/realrating and if you're rated a Chad you can come back.

Solid logic you have there, where do Chad's go then? Do they not use computers because they are so bro they just live inside vaginas and on tinder / live in the gym? I'm not putting my face on the fucking internet for people to judge me anonymously, PLUS that subreddit is full of incels just ripping on people's looks it's complete bullshit. You'll never get laid, but the funniest part is it's really just your mentality about it. It's not your looks, it's not the opposite gender, it's not nature, it's just your negativity and deep down your confusion regarding your situation. If you get laid... You won't be part of this community anymore. Also, rejection hurts but what you don't realize is IN ORDER TO GET BETTER AT ANYTHING IN LIFE YOU MUST FAIL. Do you have any idea how many rejections I've gotten? 25 or more. Chad's get rejected too dude, not all girls are whores and not all of them want some fucking model looking tool who is going to make the girl feel insecure about her own looks. You've never had a girlfriend, so how do you even know how women work and think? Other virgin men? That's literally the WORST place to learn about women. All you look up is to confirm your own beliefs and anything contradictory to it you call " coping". Enjoy your misery dude, you truly deserve it.

incels bitch about being virgins forever incel gets sex, no longer virgin remains incel because inceldom has nothing to do with sex, and everything to do with being a worthless pile of shit

You’re still defending incel behavior and logic lol

Because he knows the truth. Listen to what he's saying: He became more confident AFTER women showed interest in him and having sex. What part of this logic don't you understand?

The part where you say “I don’t have to be a decent human being until after someone shows interest in me”. Nobody is obligated to do anything of the sort; it is your job to be decent.

You don't know if someone on this board is a decent being or not. What the hell are you talking about. You don't know anybody on this board. You certainly don't know who he is. You're spouting nonsense, as we know from normies.

You’re right that I don’t know you or anyone else here, however using this tactic known as “deduction” I can infer from the actions of every incel I’ve ever seen that they are indecent beings.

You're just another dumb person full of prejiduces that don't know anything about life. You're a puppetcuck in the hands of feminism, talking like a woman. Time to behave like a man and put a man's uniform on.

You don't know if someone on this board is a decent being or not. What the hell are you talking about. You don't know anybody on this board. You certainly don't know who he is. You're spouting nonsense

You just said this 10 minutes ago and now you’re doing it?? Didn’t know blatant hypocrisy was part of how I need to “behave like a man”

Because words are the same as actions, you dumb fool? You need to start judging people on their actions, before you get yourself into deep trouble in life. Take this as a life lesson. Judging people by their actions starts with how women REALLY behave in real life. Not the lies you've been fed. No, their actions. Then you will understand how life is. Now you're just a puppetcuck that's spouting mainstream nonsense. We've already heard this nonsense too many times.

??? But when women judge your actions then they’re hateful selfish sluts???

Which actions, dummy? No one witnessed any actions of the incels on this board. You're living in a fantasyworld, believing crap.

Gathering, talking, and making hate speech are all actions. Doesn’t matter if you’re just typing on the keyboard, you made the conscious decision to do these things and this is the way you have chosen to portray yourself. All of you have.

So you're the dumb fool that believes people in real life that tell you they're good people, and then it turns out you're being fooled and fucked in the ass. Never judge people on what they say, only on their actions. And i mean actions in the strict sense of the word. Like i said, take this as an important life lesson. You wanna learn or you wanna stay dumb. It's your choice.

Ha, ignorant as ever I see. Did I ever say I just people simply off of their words? Nope. You’re right that a lot of people are good only as a pretense, and so I am wary of those who act great until they prove it. However, it’s not possible that a person who preaches only hate and ignorance is actually good. They’re just pieces of shit who don’t hide it.

Then you don't understand life and human beings. Stop posting on this board, go back to society and come back with more knowledge. You have nothing to teach us except the things we've already heard a million times, which aren't true anyway. You're just repeating what mainstream has taught you, like a robot. Start THINKING and analyzing things, then come back when you've freed yourself from conventions.

How cute and delusional you are. How are you possibly a virgin with your glowing attitude and enlightened mind, o Wise One?

I'm not a virgin. And in case you didn't know: the world is absurd. Read Camus and you'll know the delusion is actually in your mind and the world works exactly like we're telling you. It's going to take a couple of weeks before you completely swallow the blackpill. I don't need to convince you, it's going to happen automatically. This is the first phase: denial.

Haha

By connotation you are

You do have the freedom to pursue sex as the person you are.

And for the majority of people, this works out okay. If you think that only hot people are having sex then you are simply very wrong.

You have that freedom right now.

It's why you exist so it kinda is.

Yeah, but it's almost like humans have enough intelligence to overcome living life under a strictly biological rule-set.

Sure but it's still how humans come about.

It's probably accurate to say that it is the most important thing in life tbh. As black of a pill as that may be to swallow.

People go through different phases in life and value other things. If you don't want to value it so much more power to you but if you're of the age to be sexually active you're probably suppressing a lot.

Wrong, pretty much no one escapes our biological drives. They just get filtered through our much more complex frontal lobe which results in amusing and roundabout ways for us to chase what we really want.

Men still want power and women. And women still want powerful men. We just lie to ourselves more.

It's not that important if it's something you get regularly. But if you've gone your entire life without attention from the opposite sex then any attention at all is very important.

At this point I don't even care about sex as much I just want to have someone to hold.

If you really want to get into a relationship leave this sub and don't come back.

No one else understands me. A handful of people have stopped being my friend after finding out what a loser I am. Only one friend of mine knows I'm a virgin loser now and he's good enough to keep it from our mutual friends, but he still doesn't understand me. This is the only place where I can even begin to relate to others. Why would I leave the one place where I can comfortably discuss my problems?

Because if you want a healthy relationship, this place is toxic to that goal.

No one in here is trying to help you. In fact, if you got a relationship they would hate on your more. I get that you feel safe here, but the messaging that you get is toxic if your goal is to have someone to hold.

I'm not expecting anyone here to help me get into a relationship. Everyone here is either a virgin loser or a bully from IT. I just need someone to talk to because I have no one.

Then go anywhere else and talk to them.

I mean I'ave talked to multiple different people from all walks of life. And I've never asked them if they were a virgin or not.

This sub is toxic. It won't help you meet any of your goals. Make the break and don't look back and it will be the best thing you ever have done.

It will be scary, but you will be okay. PM me if you need support.

Would you think someone is weird for bring a virgin at 25? Be honest.

In all the conversations I've had with friends or whatnot or people I mean their level of sexual history doesn't really come up.

I don't think I've ever asked someone if they are virgin. That didn't really enter conversation. It is probably on your mind and you feel a lot of pressure about but it isn't like it is going to come up.

I didn't ask if it had come up in conversation. I asked if you would think someone is weird for being a 25 year old virgin.

Is this about Sex, or is this about attention from the opposite sex? Pick one.

Why would I need to just pick one?

Isn't one of the main tenements of inceldom that just buying sex isn't the point?

Yes. So I'll ask again. Why would I pick just one?

Because the assertion is that sex isn't the point, that it's different from the validation and attention incel want. So either it IS about pure Sex, or it ISN'T about pure sex. Which is it?

When did I say anything about "pure sex", whatever that means?

Yeah ok at this point you're not even trying. Bye.

You're just grasping at straws. How pathetic.

No, I'm just unwilling to spoonfeed you and deal with your bullshit Duh-OH'S

Can you people just shut the fuck up about what's "important in life"?

You do not determine what's important in the lives of other people. Saying shit like this is legit low empathy. People can value whatever they want, that's not for you to decide, unless you want to start claiming you're God.

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Sex is an implicit statement that you are worthy of living forever in some extent.

How that affirmation or lack thereof doesn't impact someone's mental health is beyond me.

You're wrong, sex is good for your mental health. You will be a healthier both physically and mentally after sex.

Ever think it only had that huge effect on you because of the value you had already placed on it?

For me, nope, and I highly doubt for many others, too. Sex is a crazy good feeling but really the full benefit from it comes in the fact that you actually attained your biological purpose (to procreate). Yeah, sure, you likely used a condom unless you feel like paying child support, but you still did it. You achieved what you were literally born to do, biologically speaking. Afterwards, your mind is finally free to think. You can focus on greater goals. You can actually stop worrying so much about getting laid. Having sex does so much for you, biologically speaking.

Ever think no one gives a fuck what you have to say, normie.

this but unironically.

If this isn’t /r/circlejerk I don’t know what is. 😂

Go eat a bag of dicks.

How come incels don't just meet up and fuck each other

u/board_gaming

Sex is part of Maslow's hiearchy (the basic needs of life) it's only the left trying to tell us otherwise to calm us down

right there at the base

Feminist are currently denounce maslow as rape for saying sex is a need

This is why NoFap is mental insanity. They claim it gives them superpowers but in reality they are just SUPER low testosterone males that produce as much T in like 1 year that a normal guy produces in 2 weeks.

Most guys like that started nofap on top of several other healthy habits, so they feel the effects of not being a piece of shit plus the honestly quite noticeable effects of nofap (you dont become a god but after a week I sure as shit feel a lot of positives and negatives) Problem is they attribute their success entirely on the nofap.

Maslow also was very clear that love and sex are different needs/functions.

If you need to have sex and be validated by another person are u truly secure in yourself though?

Fair enough, glad u got your validation buddy

Iron sharpens iron

And when do you reach the point and realize women were garbage all along? You dont need their validation but it doesn't change the fact this ham beast is treated as your superior and your biological needs still aren't being met

I'm serious. Women are fucking dumb and have no redeeming quality. It's not incel. It's just rational misogyny. Women are despicable cunts who will sleep with anything even dogs. That's why they do porn. Dick and attention. That's all they want and they don't care where they get it but than expected rights and (((respect))) including this child molesting admin of a woman who I've seen heroin addicts function better

fakest shit i have ever heard hahaha. sex and validation wont stop you being a woman-hating man-hating sexual freedom-hating piece of shit

Women talk about incels being entitled meanwhile some negress got mad at me i wouldn't drop what I was doing to fuck her. You know I basically live at work right? I ain't got time to stop what I'm doing to cum in your stank ass pussy. You can wait till the weekend

Yep, especially sex with a girl that finds you attractive and is into you. Its a huge confidence boost and difference maker. No guys wants to be the virgin loser while his friends are out having fun with models every night. And its a downward spiral because in our society male virgins are stigmatized. Its so bad that if a girl asks you its almost always better to lie about it and say you arent a virgin, fake it until you make it. Because if you admit you are a virgin 99% of the girls in U.S. will end the convo right there

Just lie the first time, after that you're not even lying

Sex was what made relationships go from "an impossible fantasy, out of the realm of realism" to "something that might actually happen at some point."

It was a 200 lb short ugly curry slut. Every girl I've slept with since have been fat or ugly. I wasn't sexually turned on. I didn't 'enjoy' it. But it really helped me realize that I could be worth something to someone someday.

I wasn't a LOT more confident/happy after. But it took something I saw as impossible, and made it seem possible.

I can point to three days where my general perspective on life changed.

One of them I went into anaphylactic shock and was nearly DOA at the hospital when I was 9, one of them is when I lost my virginity, one of them is when someone first called me a scientist, which was my childhood dream.

Anyone who says sex doesn't matter is fooling themselves.

Honestly the borderline fictional Chad life presented here isn't something a man needs, but there's no way I would be as fulfilled in any part of my life at my age were I still a virgin.

Just a question: How were you when you escaped inceldom? Because I think that past a certain age, it's pretty much impossible to escape without it affecting your relationships.

You don't know if someone on this board is a decent being or not. What the hell are you talking about. You don't know anybody on this board. You certainly don't know who he is. You're spouting nonsense

You just said this 10 minutes ago and now you’re doing it?? Didn’t know blatant hypocrisy was part of how I need to “behave like a man”

EVERY FUCKING TIME. Are you all just one person on this subreddit? Literally your logic is that "Chad's are everywhere fucking all these sluts!" but when one actually comes along or even remotely says that they are an 8 (for the record I was told by multiple women I'm an 8.5 but whatever you worn believe me) you immediately call bullshit. Which is it? Are Chad's everywhere or are they nowhere? They dont use reddit though, right? You are all the biggest fucking idiots. I'm so glad mainstream media and people know about you now too, it's hysterical.

When did I say anything about "pure sex", whatever that means?