Whore around now, settle for money later. The woman's mantra. I'd rope myself before settling for used up roastie pussy. sure, i'd fuck it but i'd NEVER beta provide.
Its easy to say that you'd rather keep your self-respect as a virgin than allow yourself to be cucked and exploited, but honestly I think I could probably be convinced to be a beta provider. I'm twenty-five years old and I've never kissed a woman so it would be quite easy to manipulate my emotions through some physical affection and a feeling of acceptance. I'd probably burst into tears if I met a woman I liked and she revealed the attraction was mutual. I can't imagine how that must feel - having someone be enthusiastic about you in the same way you've been enthusiastic about women your entire life. There's nothing I wouldn't do for that feeling.
If you both have lawyers, and she has her own lawyer, then the prenup will probably stand up in court if you have a lawyer defending it. Of course, for working class plebs, many of us couldn't afford that kind of protracted legal battle so we'd capitulate even with the prenup.
Tries to get mod to support his point of view, gets destroyed and then claims it was a joke. Fucking retard. Do you honestly think people are as brain dead as you to believe that shit.
Once you understand how sexual selection works, you understand how to effectively insult members of both sexes. Insults are rarely literal. If I call you a motherfucker, you shouldn't assume that I literally believe you fuck your mother. By the same token, it's not that people who use the slur "roastie" believe that a woman's labia literally resembles slabs of roast beef as a consequence of riding the cock carousel ad libitum. Rather, the term roastie is a form of symbolic slut shaming. By implying that a woman is a slut, i.e. has blown out roast beef curtains, you are marking her as a low value woman.
Of course, the opposite applies to men. A number of women on Crystal.Cafe recently sought to push back against the roastie label by attempting to come up with an analogous insulting label for a man's private parts: "Hey, let's all start calling men gherkins from now on!" one woman suggested. This can never work. Men are not ashamed of their anatomy and simply referring to a men by a euphemism for cocks misses the larger point behind slurring women as roasties—sexual selection. The most cutting insult for a man is one that marks him as being of low sexual market value. These labels include "virgin" and "incel," even if the man in question is neither. He could be married with kids and "forever alone virgin" is still more insulting than calling him a cute name for a cock.
What do you think Islam is? Do you think if you say your a Muslim a random hot girl will want to marry you? You realise you can't force someone to marry you in Islam both people have to agree so I'm sorry but looks will still matter the only thing in Islam you guys have correct is that Islam looks down on revealing clothing and we'll being a slut with BOTH MEN AND WOMEN. Women are not second class citizens in Islam and also just so you know a mother is above the father
Yet Islam allows you to marry a 6 year old, and consummate your marriage when she's 9, as Muhammad, the perfect Muslim, did with his child-bride Aisha. Children can't consent, therefore you can in fact force someone to marry you in Islam.
Why are people slowly reducing her age she was 9 when married and 12 when consummated it was said many times that they matured a lot faster during those times and this was. Very normal practice then in fact it was still considered normal 100 years around 50 years ago too when their were many people from Western societies that argued against Islam this Hadith was known to them since this wasn't out of the ordinary for them back then either. Anyway back on topic yes she can consent she was 9 and again was mature in fact it was said that she often felt jealous of the prophet Muhammad's other wife's so yes she did consent and agreed it is very clearly forbidden in Islam to force a marriage on some one.
Plus something I want to say her age was mentioned in a Hadith which are not all accurate as Hadiths are not from the Quran but are usually just from Muslim scholars and some people managed to find out that aisha (prophet Muhammad's wife that you said was 6) was in fact 19 when she married this was found out by comparing key events in history that took place and Alisha's sisters age at those dates(which was said that she was around 10 years younger than Aisha) they found out Aisha actual age when she married
Either way whether you choose to believe this is up to you I just showed you two arguments so if you don't believe my second argument look at the first and if you disagree with my first argument then look at the second
(I wrote this pretty fast so there might be spelling errors or auto correct changed a few words)
Yeah I'm sure you know a lot about Islam from your very reliable Islam hating sources don't you
Most of the verses you heard about have either been mistranslated or taken out of context
Let me show you some verses that people like Britain first take out of context :
“As for such [of the unbelievers] as do not fight against you on account of [your] faith, and neither drive you forth from your homelands, God does not forbid you to show them kindness and to behave towards them with full equity: for, verily, God loves those who act equitably.
God only forbids you to turn in friendship towards such as fight against you because of [your] faith, and drive you forth from your homelands, or aid [others] in driving you forth: and as for those [from among you] who turn towards them in friendship; it is they, they who are truly wrongdoers!” (Quran 60:8-9)
They would usually say it is forbidden in Islam to be friendly with non believers
Or this verse
“Verily, the worst of beasts in the sight of God are those who conceal (the truth), and do not acknowledge it. These are those whom you have made a peace treaty with, but they break their treaty at every opportunity and have no fear of the law.” (Quran 8:55-56)
They would say the Quran says non believers are considered the worst of beasts
there are so many more quotes people love to twist making Islam look like something it is not
Yeah a few do say 12. though I never knew that it was the minority as I said to the other guy I'm not a sheikh
Anyway look at this source please read it fully if you really don't want to at least skip to the part where it talks about how old she was and his methods of calculation
Nonetheless this was not considered abnormal by an means in those times in before Islam took over the peninsula. Why is historical context never applied to this? Do people forget Joseph and Marry's age gap as well?
Yes brozzer, they're not second class citizens at all, brozzer! Neither are gays, atheists, christians and jews!
"The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" -Quran 4:11, 4:176
"And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women." -Quran 2:282
"and the men are a degree above them [women]" -Quran 2:228
"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great." -Quran 4:34
"And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath..." -Quran 38:44
"Marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot do justice (to so many) then one (only) or (the captives) that your right hands possess." -Quran 4:3
"[Muhammad] said, 'Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?' They replied in the affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her intelligence.'" -Sahih Bukhari 6:301
"[Muhammad said] 'Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?' The women replied in the affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her religion.'" -Sahih Bukhari 6:301
"Aisha said, 'I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women'" -Sahih Bukhari 72:715
"Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler." -Sahih Bukhari 88:219
Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission. Aisha narrates, "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain." -Sahih Bukhari 72:715
"A'isha said [to Muhammad]: 'You have made us equal to the dogs and the asses'" -Sahih Muslim 4:1039 (Aisha is the girl whom Muhammad, peace be upon him, married to when she was 6, and raped when she was 9)
"But it's out of context, brozzer!" I love how no Muslim ever throws this exact argument whenever a verse says something good, as in, not fucking genocidal. Apologists only search for context when they want it to be there. There are peaceful verses that aren't so peaceful when you look at their context yet no Muslim ever has shown me that.
"It's a wrong translation brozzer!" True, 'cause Arabic is the only language in the world that you can learn, but can't translate. Nobody seems to make a "correct" translation when it comes to Quran and the Hadith, huh? Correct being, the translation that fits in with your agenda.
"Quran can only be understood in Arabic, brozzer!" Yeah because somehow the God who created an infinite universe along with life was only capable of sending an illegible retarded book in a little over 20 years. Even Scientology's books are written better than this absolute dogshit book that Allah almighty sent.
I know you live in a Muslim country, I do so myself and I agree that mothers are "valued". But telling people to rape Jews, then saying you love Jews afterwards does not change the fact that you told people to rape Jews. It doesn't negate what you said, nor does it make your ideology peaceful.
I was a Muslim just like you, say, 3 to 4 years ago. I used to use the same excuses I wrote above to defend Islam. Take one good look and you'll realize that there is nothing worthwhile to defend. Greek philosophers had a better understanding at what was right, wrong and ethical fucking hundreds of years before Muhammad.
Wrong I actually live in the uk wales specifically I often visit Arab countries whenever I go on holiday though but that's the closest I get. I'm from Iraq though can't go there though due to the war.
Anyway honestly though I'm not a sheikh I'm 17 and I don't go to a Muslim school so I'm not going to be able to counteract everything with an answer I just know most of what I know from watching and going to lectures whether in the mosque or YouTube I am fully comfortable with my religion and I don't see anything that can prove it wrong though there are many things that prove it right. Whenever I see something that I think doesn't look right or I kind of disagree with as soon as I research the truth of it I understand it and don't see any reason to disagree. I did this with many things. The Big Bang theory, evolution, aishas marriage etc I'm trying to look for a source and I might ask a family member or a sheikh about the quotes you posted and I'm 100% sure there will be an explanation for it.
Also please whoever is reading this whether you a Christian Jew atheist or already a Muslim just read this the whole thing if you think it's stupid in the beginning there will be a argument for a against it after every section
Wales huh? Cool. I'm sure as someone who's visited Arab countries before surely you've seen women in veils, right?
That last link read exactly like a freak conspiracy theory lmao. I read the entirety of it, and I've actually heard some of the things in there before, things like iron's atomic number in the Quran and the human chromosome. Instead of looking at the message of the book, you're looking at it from a mathematical angle, which proves... what, again? That it's the book of God? Then Ernest Vincent Wright must surely be the son of God because he took his time and wrote Gadsby without a single E, and Lincoln and Kennedy were the holy spirits because their lives were coincidentally connected, etc. It's easy to create miracles when you want them to exist. I could spend twenty years, write another Quran and there'd be people who'd analyze my writings for the next 1400 years and making up some conspiracy theories about it.
In fact someone has actually done it. From one of Matthew Stanley's articles, who has written chapter in his book about this math code mumbo jumbo:
"In my book, I have a chapter dedicated to a fake holy text that I wrote. It is ten chapters long, and within it are 361 (19x19) verses. It is a completely coherent text, with religious laws and duties spelled out (all made up of course), written in verse (just like the Quran), and has 282 multiples of 19 within it that imitate the ones found in the Quran both in form and content. To put this into perspective, my book has 361 verses and 282 facts, which means that 78% of the verses on average are specially coded. Compare this to the Quran: There are 6,346 verses, and 385 facts in total. To prove my point, I also show in my book that any text would contain such a code, especially if we allow ourselves the ability to manipulate the text. To this end, I demonstrated that we could find a code similar to the one in the Quran using the Book of Mormon without actually finding it (this is what is known in math as an “existence proof.”) This would not be difficult to find, although it might be tedious."
And on top of that Quran contradicts itself on this very topic.
"And We have not made the keepers of the Fire except angels. And We have not made their number except as a trial for those who disbelieve - that those who were given the Scripture will be convinced and those who have believed will increase in faith and those who were given the Scripture and the believers will not doubt and that those in whose hearts is hypocrisy and the disbelievers will say, "What does Allah intend by this as an example?" Thus does Allah leave astray whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And none knows the soldiers of your Lord except Him. And mention of the Fire is not but a reminder to humanity." -Quran 74:31
Basically says that this mathematical "miracle" exists to convince nonbelievers that Quran is in fact true. But this here ayah states the exact opposite:
"Those who do not know say, "Why does Allah not speak to us or there come to us a sign?" Thus spoke those before them like their words. Their hearts resemble each other. We have shown clearly the signs to a people who are certain [in faith]." -Quran 2:118
Throw what I've said in the trash, said Allah, and contradicted Himself once more.
The earth is flat, the mountains don't change, stars are in the atmosphere, meteors are shot at the devil, the sun has a place where it sets when in reality it doesn't exist, since you know, the earth isn't fucking flat, the universe and earth were created in 6 days as opposed to 9 million years, there are only 5 principal layers of the atmosphere, not seven as opposed to what the Quran says, no there aren't seven earths, or planets in the solar system, there are 8, humans aren't made up of dust, dirt, clay, and the sky can't actually fall on people, etcetera etcetera. The God who sent the all holy, one true book in more than twenty fucking years knows less about science than us.
But enough of this 9/11-like conspiracy theory about Allah's existence and the science surrounding it. Quran is an ethics book, isn't it? That's what I hear whenever this topic comes up. I'm gonna quote what I said in a previous comment:
Quran holds over 109 verses on killing nonbelievers. You're not innocent if you're a nonbeliever. You're also not innocent if you're homosexual. The punishment for homosexuality is death:
Quran (7:80-84) - "...For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.... And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone)"
This verse is why stoning is a punishment for gays.
Fighting for Allah is prescribed for you:
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Who are you fighting? Of course, nonbelievers.
Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Quran (8:12) - "(Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels... "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Either spirits or angels have fingertips, hearts and heads, or Allah Almighty is talking about a real human body in this verse.
Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."
Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"
Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."
Look at the context, whatever, look at the million different translations. But if none of the things written above were true then Sharia surely wouldn't exist.
Now I'm not saying Muslims are violent, they aren't. But the entire ideology is pure garbage. It's violent, the prophet was a murderer and a pedophile, the book is wrong on so many levels, it doesn't fit into society, and an ethical peaceful book didn't bother to get rid of slavery. Cool.
First making a book without a single e in it is completely different than writing a book with dozens maybe even 50+of different cases of (I'm not sure what the right word to call it is so I'll go with mathematical symbolism) mathematical symbolism which don't even try to lie it wouldn't be possible for a group of famous book authors, scientists and mathematicians to create so don't even try to say you could plus it also showed many facts that are only known today's as you said you already know about the chromosomes one so here's another
And amazingly enough have a look how many times the following words appear:-
-Month 12
-Day 365
-Sea 32
-Land 13
-Sea + land = 32 + 13 = 45
- % sea = 32/45 * 100 % = 71.11111111
- % land= 13 / 45 * 100 % = 28.88888889 Therefore: % sea+ % land = 100.00
Modern Science has only recently proven that the water covers 71.111% of the earth, while the land covers 28.889 %. Is this a coincidence?
Also are you actually trying to say that an ILLITERATE man 1400 years ago could create the Quran not only stating facts that have only recently been discovered such as
“IT IS HE WHO CREATED NIGHT AND DAY, THE SUN AND THE MOON, EACH FLOATING IN ITS ORBIT.”
But also he could also create it in such a way not even poets of today's age could match it this sums it up pretty well:
"Eloquence and Literary Excellence of the Qur-aan
The Qur-aanic prose is superbly elegant, eloquent and par excellence in literal quality. It is humanly impossible even for literary masters to produce such an extensive work of consistent quality with its intense poetic impact and a soul-piercing force. This was in itself an explicit miracle for Arabs of that time - especially coming from the mouth of an illiterate person who had no such training in Arab poetry and composition."
Their are many more but you can see that in the link I showed you though with your questions I'm starting to doubt you actually read it
Now the second point you said the Quran contradicts itself well I say you don't want to believe it so much your imagining things your completely misinterpreting the texts it says "Allah will LEAVE astray" not lead basically Allah says he will show everyone signs to Islam and allow them the chance to become Muslim and to those that do try to follow Islam Allah will show them the way and to those who see the signs and yet refuse to follow back on the path will be LEFT astray. Think of this as your sign whoever is reading this
Third point most of what you say I know for a fact isn't in the Quran I think you've been reading the bible mate.
Specifically says the earth is oval shape (like an egg)
❝And the earth, moreover. Hath He made egg shaped.❞
― Al-Qur'ān, sūrah al-Nāziʿāt (The Wresters), Chapter 79, verse 30
The Quran also does mention the Big Bang and even the Big Crunch both of which again only recently discovered it also talks of how the earth was formed as you know before planets formed there was only an opaque gas in the universe well..
❝Then He directed himself to the Heaven when it was SMOKE, and then said to it and to Earth: "Come willingly or by force" they said "We do come willingly"❞
― Al-Qurʾān, sūrah Fuṣṣilat
It also is a mis translation it doesn't say the earth was created in 6 days but in 6 periods of time or 6 eras though we don't know how long exactly that is as it does say through the Quran time is different in the heavens
It also has been discovered that
After the developments in biology and chemistry, analytical studies of clay and the human body were carried out. The result showed that the constituents of clay and those of the human body fit exactly.
The others you said I don't know about and I really can't be bothered researching it this has taken long to write I'm sure if you actually research it and look for a actual muslim scholars response on it they will explain chances are the facts are either true or a mistranslation of sorts so either find out if they are actually false or look for the correct translation. Here's website for you to look at that mentions many scientific facts mentioned in the Quran that was only recently discovered
Now for your final point I explained it to another guy on this post most of them are taken out of context E.G. It says "kill all of the disbelievers" but right after that which isn't included in the quote it says "that want to attack and invade your homes" (this is not an actual quote I cba looking for one) Islam is the religion of peace not pacifism
So yes sharia law would act in these like America would kill the soldiers that are trying to attack it but they went even further beyond and dropped a bomb on Hiroshima which killed thousands of innocent people that weren't involved in the war including women children which is strictly prohibited in Islam (and it says disbelievers as why would two Muslim nations fight against each over if they were both truly muslim.
A great quote I once heard too
"Islam and Muslims are not the same things Islam is perfect Muslims aren't
Don't expect a long reply like this again if I'm going to give a reply it WILL NOT be an essay like this again
Btw I respect your not saying a bunch of hate speech that most people say and calling me a terrorists ect it's kind of hard being in a discussion concerning Islam without being called one
which don't even try to lie it wouldn't be possible for a group of famous book authors, scientists and mathematicians to create so don't even try to say you could plus
Why are you telling me not to question something so bogus? And I can't recreate it, because... Of what? You're giving me no reasoning here, and on top of that you're telling me that the world's smartest people can't do it either. With no reasoning whatsoever. It looks oddly like brainwashing.
"Eloquence and Literary Excellence of the Qur-aan The Qur-aanic prose is superbly elegant, eloquent and par excellence in literal quality. It is humanly impossible even for literary masters to produce such an extensive work of consistent quality with its intense poetic impact and a soul-piercing force. This was in itself an explicit miracle for Arabs of that time - especially coming from the mouth of an illiterate person who had no such training in Arab poetry and composition."
Clearly biased. You talk like there's something so unbelievably good about the Quran yet it contradicts itself so many times:
"Allah will LEAVE astray"
How the hell does that refute my point? I think you're the one who's imagining things here or you've accidentally read something else other than the verses I put in my comment.
"We have not made their number except as a trial for those who disbelieve - that those who were given the Scripture will be convinced" says that it was made to convince nonbelievers that it's true.
"We have shown clearly the signs to a people who are certain [in faith]." and this here says that the signs were for people who were certain in faith. How do you not see the contradiction?
Their are many more but you can see that in the link I showed you though with your questions I'm starting to doubt you actually read it
That's actually insulting ngl. I did read the entirety of the things said in that link, and said that I had heard a couple of the things there before, you didn't need to explain it all over again. There are some coincidences here and there, true, and I do agree that it sounds good, sometimes even too good to be true. But my point still stands, a single person or a group of people could pull of the same trick. It's not some God's miracle if I, a human being, can replicate it. A miracle, I'd say, would be Muhammad splitting the moon in half, which again there's no proof of.
The part about the word counting and other stuff is explained by this guy:
Speaking of links, have you taken a look at the wiki page I sent about Quran spreading bogus scientific info? I'm guessing you haven't, because you didn't talk about it in your comment.
ILLITERATE man
That's debatable. Some Hadith say that, in fact, he did write. Also he was a merchant, he had to know how to read and write to some extent. We don't have a definite idea on his literacy but I'm leaning towards the fact that he did.
"Narrated Anas bin Malik: Once the Prophet wrote a letter or had an idea of writing a letter. The Prophet was told that they (rulers) would not read letters unless they were sealed. So the Prophet got a silver ring made with "Muhammad Allah's Apostle" engraved on it. As if I were just observing its white glitter in the hand of the Prophet" -Sahih al-Bukhari Book 3 Hadith 65
"Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)." -Sahih al-Bukhari Book 62 Hadith 88
"Narrated 'Ubaidullah bin 'Abdullah: Ibn 'Abbas said, "When the ailment of the Prophet (Peace be upon him) became worse, he said, 'Bring for me (writing) paper and I will write for you a statement after which you will not go astray.' But 'Umar said, 'The Prophet is seriously ill, and we have got Allah's Book with us and that is sufficient for us.' But the companions of the Prophet differed about this and there was a hue and cry. On that the Prophet said to them, 'Go away (and leave me alone). It is not right that you should quarrel in front of me." Ibn 'Abbas came out saying, "It was most unfortunate (a great disaster) that Allah's Apostle was prevented from writing that statement for them because of their disagreement and noise. (Note: It is apparent from this Hadith that Ibn 'Abbas had witnessed the event and came out saying this statement. The truth is not so, for Ibn 'Abbas used to say this statement on narrating the Hadith and he had not witnessed the event personally." -Sahih al-Bukhari Book 3 Hadith 114
“IT IS HE WHO CREATED NIGHT AND DAY, THE SUN AND THE MOON, EACH FLOATING IN ITS ORBIT.”
It does say that the sun and the moon follow a course and swim, but even a little kid could say that because you can make the same claim just by looking at the sun and the moon. It's observable with the naked eye so it's not an impressive feat when you think about it, especially after considering that astronomers were able to predict the motion of the planets in 3rd century BC. Not impressed.
It also is a mis translation it doesn't say the earth was created in 6 days but in 6 periods of time
Why do Islam websites still say days then? Are all translations wrong? Are they all dumb?
Third point most of what you say I know for a fact isn't in the Quran I think you've been reading the bible mate. Specifically says the earth is oval shape ❝And the earth, moreover. Hath He made egg shaped.❞ ― Al-Qur'ān, sūrah al-Nāziʿāt (The Wresters), Chapter 79, verse 30
Your lord is God who created the heavens and the earth in six days (7:54)
Who made the earth for you a carpet
And the sky a structure (2:22)
"Islam and Muslims are not the same things Islam is perfect Muslims aren't"
If Islam were perfect then Sharia, law which is purely based on Islam, wouldn't exist. You have the very thing to refute that claim of yours in front of your two eyes yet you don't see it. This is blatant brainwashing. I know because I've been in your position before.
The result showed that the constituents of clay and those of the human body fit exactly.
I've actually done more research on this. Quran says humans were created FROM clay, contrary to the scientific hypothesis that clay merely 'match-makes' RNA and membrane vesicles. It does not form a building block.
It's not something that Islam originally came up with anyway.
"Aruru (Ninmah, Nintu, Ninhursaga, Belet-ili, Mami) -She is the mother goddess and was responsible for the creation of man with the help of Enlil or Enki. She is also called the womb goddess, and midwife of the gods. On Ea's advice, she acted on his direction and mixed clay with the blood of the god Geshtu-e, in order to shape and birth seven men and seven women. These people would bear the workload of the Igigi. She also added to the creation of Gilgamesh, and, at Anu's command, made Enkidu in Anu's image by pinching off a piece of clay, throwing it into the wilderness, and birthing him there. Ea called her to offer her beloved Ninurta as the one who should hunt Anzu. She does so." -Assyro-Babylonian
"(Gibson p. 68) men are considered made of 'clay'." -Canaan-Ugataric
"According to Samuel Noah Kramer (Tablets of Sumer, Colorado,1956) Nammu and Ninmah, assisted by deities who are the 'good and princely fashioners', mixed clay which was 'over the abyss' and brought man into existence.
Gods were having difficulty in finding food, and their problems have increased when the later born goddesses joined them. Enki the water god - he was the god of wisdom and in a position to help them - was fast asleep in the sea and did not hear their complaints. Enki's mother Mother of all Gods Nammu brought the tears of the complainants to Enki and told him in their presence: "O! my son, get off your bed... do what is wise. Give shape to (make some) servants to gods. Let them make their own copies.(?)" Enki thinks, decides to head the 'union of good and bright modelists' and says to Nammu: 'O! mother, the creature you have mentioned exists: Put the image of gods(?) on him. Shape his heart from the clay on the surface of the Bottomless Deep. Good and bright modelists will thicken this clay. You make its organs; Ninmah (Goddess of Earth) will work in front of you. While you are making a model…goddesses of birth will be with you. O! mother decide on the faith of the newborn, let Ninmah put the image of gods on it: This is the human."
"Enki and Ninmah"
She is the mother goddess and, as Ninmah, assists in the creation of man. Enki, having been propted by Nammu to create servants for the gods, describes how Nammu and Ninmah will help fashion man from clay. Prior to getting to work, she and Enki drink overmuch at a feast. She then shapes six flawed versions of man from the heart of the clay over the Abzu, with Enki declaring their fates. Enki, in turn also creates a flawed man which is unable to eat. Ninmah appears to curse him for the failed effort. (Kramer 1963 pp. 149-151; Kramer 1961 pp. 69-72) -Sumerian
Etcetera etcetera. Many more examples of this in other religions. I don't want to write them all down, this comment will be long.
This is the part of discussing Islam which I hate with my existence. You will, NEVER, EVER see a Muslim scholar say bad things about Islam. It's not going to happen. There are many factors that go into play. One, they're biased, two, they'll lose their jobs as a muslim scholar the instant they say something bad, three, they'll be hated by many. And depending on where the scholar lives, he may even get legally executed for speaking out against Islam. Free speech on the Quran is very limited.
Turan Dursun, a mufti turned Islam critic, was threatened for years because of his books which were critical of Islam. He was assassinated in front of his home. No, that didn't happen in Saudi Arabia, it happened in Turkey. A majority of Muslims are violent against nonbelievers. I've lived in Turkey all my life, I see it happen a lot.
"kill all of the disbelievers" but right after that which isn't included in the quote it says "that want to attack and invade your homes" (this is not an actual quote I cba looking for one)
I would love to see you explain this one in depth.
IF that were the case, and what you were saying is indeed true, then why do nonbelievers get legally executed under Sharia law, a law which was made by many muslim scholars?
Islam is the religion of peace not pacifism
Also not true:
So yes sharia law would act in these like America would kill the soldiers that are trying to attack it but they went even further beyond and dropped a bomb on Hiroshima which killed thousands of innocent people that weren't involved in the war including women children which is strictly prohibited in Islam
Muhammad sieged the city of Taif with catapults. Like nukes, catapults also kill indiscriminately.
"Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi: I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair." -Abu Dawud Book 38 Number 4390
Boys start growing pubic hair between the ages of 9 to 13. Not only that:
"This tradition has been narrated by the game authority (Yazid b. Hurmus) through a different chain of transmitters with the following difference in the elucidation of one of the points raised by Najda in his letter to Ibn Abas: The Messenger of Allah (Peace be upon him) used not to kill the children, so thou shouldst not kill them unless you could know what Khadir had known about the child he killed, or you could distinguish between a child who would grow up to he a believer (and a child who would grow up to be a non-believer), so that you killed the (prospective) non-believer and left the (prospective) believer aside." -Sahih Muslim Book 19 Hadith 4457
You can kill children if you can differentiate between the non-believers and the muslims.
Btw I respect your not saying a bunch of hate speech that most people say and calling me a terrorists ect it's kind of hard being in a discussion concerning Islam without being called one
I find that shit counter-productive, honestly. Calling someone a terrorist just for having different beliefs is nothing short of dumb, and it achieves nothing. In the same sense, you could call me an atheist and damn my entire lineage to hell but I don't see you doing that either. Thanks.
Your first point yes I guess for you they would be biased but if they are a Muslim scholar then yes they would be in support of Islam since if you actually find out about Islam people usually end up becoming Muslim and there is always an explanation whenever someone against Islam has a question or tries to attack it
Your other point Again as I explained to the other guy
Islam is perfect Muslims aren't many Muslims do stupid things Islam is the path though Muslims try to follow the path some more than others there are those that go completely against it without knowing it sometimes they do though as muslims are humans and no matter what they believe or where they are from there will always be someone that does wrong
Now your last point I said this to another guy so I'll just copy and paste most of my comment here.
"Most of the verses you heard about have either been mistranslated or taken out of context
Let me show you some verses that people like Britain first take out of context :
“As for such [of the unbelievers] as do not fight against you on account of [your] faith, and neither drive you forth from your homelands, God does not forbid you to show them kindness and to behave towards them with full equity: for, verily, God loves those who act equitably.
God only forbids you to turn in friendship towards such as fight against you because of [your] faith, and drive you forth from your homelands, or aid [others] in driving you forth: and as for those [from among you] who turn towards them in friendship; it is they, they who are truly wrongdoers!” (Quran 60:8-9)
They would usually say it is forbidden in Islam to be friendly with non believers
Or this verse
“Verily, the worst of beasts in the sight of God are those who conceal (the truth), and do not acknowledge it. These are those whom you have made a peace treaty with, but they break their treaty at every opportunity and have no fear of the law.” (Quran 8:55-56)
They would say the Quran says non believers are considered the worst of beasts
there are so many more quotes people love to twist making Islam look like something it is not"
And just for a few of your last bits I'll answer quick
I don't think nukes and catapults are very similar
And I don't know anything about those verses whether their hadiths or actual verses or if they are also taken out of context (you'd be surprised how often that happens)
Google it where a sheikh or scholar answers it for you since as long as it makes sense I do t see the problem you can look at both sides a for and against if you want
Anyway I think that's done I'm tired asf and these discussions are very long to write up
Thanks for being civil and I wish a lot more atheists/people from other religions were as open minded as you and actually want to find out more instead of just shitting on it In ignorance
if you actually find out about Islam people usually end up becoming Muslim
Over the last few years, non-theism has been growing in Islamic schools in Turkey. And it's not limited to schools either, this trend can be seen in the general population. The more people learn about the religion, the more they get repulsed by it.
Islam is perfect Muslims aren't many Muslims do stupid things Islam is the path though Muslims try to follow the path
This is the lie I and many others have been fed since birth. Islam is far from perfect. ISIS are a bunch of uncivilized brutes, yes, but their ideology is backed up by the Quran and Hadith which only proves my point. Yes, there may be different interpretations of the same text, but if you blatantly put 109 verses about killing non-Muslims in your book then I'm not sure there's anything peaceful in there.
As for such [of the unbelievers] as do not fight against you on account of [your] faith, and neither drive you forth from your homelands, God does not forbid you to show them kindness and to behave towards them with full equity: for, verily, God loves those who act equitably.
Ayah 60:8-9 and 8:55-56. Okay, well enough. I've got no problem with that. Let's take a look at ayah 60:10 then:
"O you who have believed, when the believing women come to you as emigrants, examine them. Allah is most knowing as to their faith. And if you know them to be believers, then do not return them to the disbelievers; they are not lawful [wives] for them, nor are they lawful [husbands] for them. But give the disbelievers what they have spent. And there is no blame upon you if you marry them when you have given them their due compensation. And hold not to marriage bonds with disbelieving women, but ask for what you have spent and let them ask for what they have spent. That is the judgement of Allah ; He judges between you. And Allah is Knowing and Wise."
Let me give some historical context to this verse. Muhammad signed the Hudaibiya treaty with Meccans, which stated that any Muslim Meccan fleeing to Medina must be returned, and vice versa. But Muhammad broke the treaty, kept the women who fled to Medina to himself and a verse from Allah, creator of all, followed.
Then Muhammad broke the treaty again by having his men attack and kill Meccan merchants.
I don't think nukes and catapults are very similar
They both kill indiscriminately, which was my point.
Google it where a sheikh or scholar answers it for you
I don't think I want to be fed information by someone who's blatantly biased. I have my own brain I can process the information I read with my own two eyes, and you have your own. As long as we look at the historical context and read different translations of a verse we won't need the biased opinion of any businessman who makes cash off religion.
Thank you for being civil as well. If I hadn't been talking to someone as open minded as you are I'm pretty sure I'd have received some death threats by now.
The first link you posted I don't even have to post an argument for it the comment section did it for me a lot of what he said was false and he didn't do proper research hears one comment I saw there are many others and this one seems to like the word incompetent
"Another incompetent article for your incompetent blog …….you cant just write the translated word in a search and blindly just write down the number you get….even a novice knows that… ill prove your incompetence below but let me just say ive noticed that usually your mind processes things incompetently to mislead yourself and others but in this case its just incompetent research…. the only thing more shocking than the incompetence is the outright arrogance throughout the article and the shamelessness with which you posted it in public…Its easy for incompetent people to copy, paste and find short cuts to come to sensationalist conclusions……Let me list out the incompetence for you and i hope you atleast have the sincerity to not delete my comment
glimpses of your incompetence and your inability to share competent links are seen in earlier comments
there is a vast amount of research on the mathematical patterns in the Quran …. all of varying degrees of complexity ….you decided to deal with the easiest which is counting contrasting words…..i mean your article shows that not only were you lazy to do the actual research…you dont even know basic arabic as i will prove below
i specifically asked you to deal with Dr. Shabir Allys work….bcos i know there are many incompetent sites including your own….what is the point of getting information from an incompetent site and then doing your own incompetent research to add to the incompetence
i realised that since i was responsible for your stupid article which may now go on to mislead more of our gullible muslim youth i would have to deal with your incompetent mess….incompetent people always seem to have more time and means to spread their incompetence…. you gave out 4 examples to try to prove your arrogant claims….of which only 1 was mentioned by Dr. Shabbir Ally; SINGULAR FORMS OF MAN 24 times and SINGULAR FORMS OF WOMAN 24 times….so let me deal only with that especially since you used it to arrogantly slander islam …. this example alone is enough to sure you dont know what the hell you are doing
the sad thing about incompetent people is the hard work of competent people which takes years gets discredited..and incompetent people also see to have more time to spew out their incompetence…..i had to actually sit down for hours to do the research of only the words MAN and WOMAN …. just by looking at your figures i could see the incompetence… You said woman only appears 12 times in all its forms but i found 24 singular forms for woman and that alone is enough to disprove you….im no arabic expert but i know you dont know arabic bcos you listed out ‘dhati’ and ‘hamlin’ as separate whilst in the Quran you would have found they are actually written together to mean a ‘pregnant woman’
I dont know how you got the word MAN 29 times…….but you must have included MAN with all its derivatives like plural form…..remember arabic is not english and whilst in english man can be plural to include mankind in general or both male and female Shabir Ally specifically told you to only include the SINGULAR FORM of RAJUL …. its not his fault you dont know arabic grammar and how it works…..
Below i have listed for you the places in the Quran for SIGULAR FORM OF MAN 24 times and SINGULAR FORM OF WOMAN 24 TIMES…
As a bonus are you suprised you get death threats? ill just deal with the treason law (not just apostasy)…..we dont have an islamic country that implements the full islamic shariah including the political, economic, welfare, civil, criminal aspects of it….but some countries do have the criminal penal code….if you left islam and kept it to yourself then an islamic governement would not disturb you…but since you go out in public and deceive the youth with your incompetence in an islamic land you have 2 options….you could either repent and recant and be set free or you could leave that islamic land and spew your poison designed to mislead the youth elsewhere….
i sincerely hope this will make you reflect and keep your incompetence to yourself instead of deceiving people on youtube and your blog….. do something more productive wth your life…..religion is not a joke to lots of people…they take it seriously
SINGULAR FORM OF WOMAN = 24 times
1.) 27:23
2.) 4:12
3.) 33:50
4.) 37:135
5.) 4:128
6.) 3:35
7.8.) 2:178 ( appears 2 times maybe in variant singular forms)
9.) 40:40
10.) 16:97
11.) 22:2
12.) 24:2
13.14.15.) 2:221 (appears 3 times maybe in variant singular forms)
16.) 11:72
17.) 26:171
18.19.) 51:29 (appears 2 times maybe in variant singular forms)
20.21.22.) 24:3 (appears 3 times maybe in variant singular forms)
23.) 33:36
24.) 33:50
Another thing you said was yawm being a mistranslation yeah sorry I kind of worded it wrong it's not a mistranslation I'm Arabic and we do use yawm as day it's more like Arabic is just different from English there won't be exact translations for everything yawm is more like period of time of the place your in I guess so in earth yes it would be 24 hours though on mars it would be different and I think this is the yawm of the heavens or of the universe it's up for interpretation really you could believe its 6 days if you want or you could believe it's more it's up to you this isn't considered important it's the sane with evolution with animals you can choose to believe it if you want since the Quran doesn't mention it disproving it or proving it the only thing you should believe is that humans weren't part of evolution
The earth spreading out bit was mentioned on the link I posted I guess you didn't read it I can't remember the website and I can't look at my old comment without closing this comment so just go look at it again yourself
Next I think you misinterpreted my message
"Islam is perfect Muslims aren't"
I meant that the religion of Islam is perfect meaning the Quran and all of its teachings that is Islam though Muslims are humans they make mistakes they are not perfect a Muslim is supposed to try their best to follow the teachings of Islam though as humans we fail to do it perfectly as in some way chances are someone will make a mistake whether Big or small, many or few sharia law in many Arab countries is corrupt in fact their government is corrupt and many are only Muslims in name only if even that so the sharia law in Islam and the sharia law implemented by society is different if it was true sharia law nothing will be enforced their may be no legal gay marriages or sex change operations but no one would be allowed to kill or attack those that are gay or had a sex change also the uf (Burqaa) or hijab also shouldn't be forced by law
I went a little of topic but yeah true sharia law is Islam and every Muslim should already be following it no matter the country they are in as it does say to respect the laws of the land you are in so you could say sharia law is the law of the country you are living in.
The rest of what you say is just Islam never thought of it first cause yeah prophet Muhammad picked information from which was theorised from all over the world and only picked the ones that were correct like come on man you realise they had so many different theories and like 90% of them were wrong I've heard people say Muslims took that from the Greeks they took it from the Spanish they took it from the mongols they took it from this other tribe halfway across the world. Also how are you going to explain accurately having the correct percentage of land and water mass shown in a way of saying the words land and water in the exact ratio same thing with the chromosomes how do you explain please tell me did they also steal that from the mongols?
The rest of what you say is just how you interpret it, is opinionated or just needs a little research.
this post is a lot longer than I meant it to be though this was a pretty deep discussion well for me anyway I usually cant write more than a paragraph in my school assignments without Day dreaming.
The earth spreading out bit was mentioned on the link I posted
The ayah mentioned in your link was entirely false. They blatantly distorted the original content of the ayah. That's why I posted a link to the correct version of the ayah from quran.com, which does not talk about the earth having an egg shape at all.
Islam is perfect
I got what you were trying to mean in your original comment. What I said in my comment is that Islam is by no means perfect and its teachings are morally and ethically wrong.
only picked the ones that were correct
So Quran is not the word of Allah, but the word of Muhammad? Okay.
Also how are you going to explain accurately having the correct percentage of land and water mass shown
He only picked information that was correct, as you said. Also, there's indeed signs of the Quran being altered.
Yeah the argument you cited in your comment seems thought out, I'll give you that. I can't really seem to explain these mathematical coincidences, and from what I've seen not many have been able to. What I'll say is, I think many of these are just that, coincidences. If Allah planted a code, then had the contents of his words changed afterwards, the code would not be in place today.
People go around and use the same mathematical code on the bible and have some findings as well. Same applies to many other books. You can find many more coincidences like this if you actively look for them, especially if your book is long.
no one would be allowed to kill or attack those that are gay or had a sex change also the uf (Burqaa) or hijab also shouldn't be forced by law
Every ayah in the Quran is made to be enforced. You cannot choose which to enforce or abide by.
"It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed in a plain error." -Quran 33:36
You are not to make up your own opinion on a matter which was already decided by Allah and Muhammad.
"Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." -Quran 9:29
And unbelievers are as follows, according to Sharia law o8.7:
-2- to intend to commit unbelief, even if in the future
-3- to deny the existence of Allah... or any of his attributes
-6- to be sarcastic about Allah's name, his command, his interdiction... or his threat
-7- to deny any verse of the Quran
-8- to mockingly say, "I don't know what faith is"
-17- to believe that things in themselves or by their own nature have any causal influence independent of the will of Allah
If you deny the verses above, you're a nonbeliever, and therefore you can be executed. It is the word of Muhammad.
The rest of what you say is just how you interpret it, is opinionated
You can look at the verses I cited and make up your own interpretation for them. I mean, I don't think there's much open to interpretation. The meaning is clear as day. I'd get your point if there were four or five violent verses in Quran or the Hadith, but having more than 109 verses just about killing infidels, that's where I draw the line.
You realise you can't force someone to marry you in Islam both people have to agree
Depends on the country, in more Islamic countries following actual Islam, the woman's consent is purely token as it is the father's consent that matters. But yeah, Islamic women want attractive men also, and male converts have low status which is why they've often recruited into the more "radical" (real) versions so to prove themselves or to capture a bride or four in war (perfectly Islamic).
Yes, and it's advisable. You won't just get a waifu in the male the moment you start frequenting /r/Islam, however. Go to the Mosque regularly, get to know your community, they will eventually help you find a bride that will not be permitted to disobey you.
I reckon Australian women are even worse than American and British women. Most American women I've met have been genuinely nice to me at least, where as Australian women give me fuck off signals before I even open my mouth, as they're disgusted that a subhuman incel even thinks he's worthy enough of their time.
I think the only reason she admitted it is because she's in a friendly environment in which she knows she's not gonna get attacked for saying that. Pretty sure that if she posted here she'd deny the very same things she's admitting in the video.
Lucky in Australia we don't have too many Tyrones yet, but given how much feminists seem to love African rapefugees and making excuses for them as they go on crime sprees in Melbourne, it's coming.
this kind of black pill about blown out vaginas should be showed and teached in public schools, just to make sure that normal males don't fall into the marriage trap
This. Vaginas are literally indestructible. Often times they're used to dispose of unexploded ordinances, usually landmines. Basically any ordinance that can fit into the vagina. Some women in the army are assigned to special MOS that's only available for women:
Women are allowed to fuck who they want and touch whoever's peepee they want, just as men are free to judge the however we want and call them whatever we want.
The incel problem can be directly attributed to women like these destroying the dynamic of dating. But u want to live in a world without incels right? You deserve to be fucking mangled.
It's a fucked up game.. but can you really blame attractive women for doing this? You live once.. now more than ever.. survival isn't even a necessity. Back in the tribal days yes, people needed to have babies to continue the livelihood of the tribe. But now it's 2018.. it doesn't matter overall if you have a baby or not.. strong genes have already been defined. If I was a hot girl.. I'd probably do the same as her. I'd want to get fucking railed all day and night and treated like a princess. I understand women, but I will never respect them. Respecting them is how you get them to use you.
One question. If we indeed go back the good ol days, don't you think the lessons about true female nature that we learned in the middle would be lost? Men growing up in a patriarchal society with traditional values and close-knit families would be the biggest beta bluepillers ever. They would never know if how females behave when let loose. There'd be no blackpill and extreme betatude would be encouraged in the society.
I think it's the lying about what women want that bothers people. If media says they want someone honest and whatever then people believe it and try to be honest (and/or do it because that's the natural good thing to do). If people were told growing up "you should be a good person but a lot of girls like aggressive guys" then they could grow up and plan accordingly, rather than do what they think is right and be lied to.
In a lot of cases women they did make the rules (not to generalize all of them), people say one thing is attractive and it turns out it's the opposite. A lot of common advice on dating is "do what you're passionate about, follow your life goals, and love will come along the way", and that's bull for a lot of people. Love comes through effort like almost everything else, so if it's ignored as a priority then it often just won't happen.
So attractive women can do that but they shouldn't lie about what they're doing or mislead people into thinking they want something else.
This. It was the lies that lead me to try, to try improving myself, to try approaching women, to make a fool of myself and throw a lot of time and energy away, to get nothing in the end. All because of lies.
Now I hate lies, and the liars, with every fiber of my being.
She had an itch to simply say good-looking but didn't want to appear too shallow. So sufficed with a synonym instead, indeed as always, confident = handsome and nothing else.
The woman a man marries is undeniably his true first choice. so much so that hes putting everything on the line for her & is willing to go further than he has with any other woman.
The man a woman marries is almost never her true first choice. I'd go full in depth but i dont have all day. Visit deadbedrooms + adultery + relationships. look at all the examples of wives simply being unattracted to their husbands. They cant land the guy they got with at 19 for the long term. Thats when they settle. this isnt the same at all.
typically the woman you marry is the best you could do. the man women marry isnt the best in their eyes at least not when compared to their short lived fling with an ex who was 2+ points higher than she was
That "decent chick" was probably a thot in her 20s too LOL. She'll put on a new mask to make it seem like she's not like that anymore. And men everywhere fall for it.
you know how dating apps make you check a bunch of boxes making sure you aren't some creep. instead those apps should play this blackpill for male users beforehand.
you just gave yourself away. when youre a man you treat women who are wife material better than the party girls. women treat the party men better than their husbands. party girl -> wife material is a trade up for men. party guy (the sort of person this sub refers to as chad) -> husband is settling for women.
Because generalized statements can never be askewed based on opinion, right?
Sure it's done in practice, but it doesn't mean it's universally law either. Men and women can both be shitty to each other and use each other. There's also no standard that says that every woman cheats on her husband, or every husband is cucked, etc. It's such a baseless accusation but I do find it entertaining.
Cherry picking examples to support the idea is also really silly when you consider the vast, vast amount of marriages all over the world that dont fall into those ideas.
I've now watched a couple of his YouTube videos and honestly, the thing that strikes me the most is how women dont seem to view men as human at all. One of the girls even let something slip like "well obviously men have feelings too I guess".
Women seem to be much more psychopathic and practical in their lives, they do not for one second believe in the whole romance crap unless the guy is an alpha. Then suddenly the romance movies and feelings all come out. This isn't necessarily a bad trait, it's only bad in a society that gives women freedom. I remember a statistic for the US in the 1960s where women were asked if they need to marry for love or not and the vast majority, like 75%, said no.
So women are designed to suck it up and if we allow them to just keep playing their psychopathic nature against us and society, literally everybody suffers as a result.
LAAAATER on...which gets further away year by year...Now roasties can settle at 50 yrs old with random betabux numales which would help her raise few bastard children from different Chads...Life cant get any better then this for roasties...
This. It was the lies that lead me to try, to try improving myself, to try approaching women, to make a fool of myself and throw a lot of time and energy away, to get nothing in the end. All because of lies.
Now I hate lies, and the liars, with every fiber of my being.
183 comments
1 TopKekketus 2018-05-12
Whore around now, settle for money later. The woman's mantra. I'd rope myself before settling for used up roastie pussy. sure, i'd fuck it but i'd NEVER beta provide.
1 lonely_suicidal_cel 2018-05-12
Same fuck femoids
1 fyog 2018-05-12
except don't
1 bongrippa 2018-05-12
Yeah but they WON'T fuck you. Because you're a self-loathing, toxic, piece of shit.
1 Plague-Lord 2018-05-12
personality is a cope. Most chads are toxic pieces of shit but happen to be good looking so women overlook that.
1 the-Meeks-shall-rule 2018-05-12
Its easy to say that you'd rather keep your self-respect as a virgin than allow yourself to be cucked and exploited, but honestly I think I could probably be convinced to be a beta provider. I'm twenty-five years old and I've never kissed a woman so it would be quite easy to manipulate my emotions through some physical affection and a feeling of acceptance. I'd probably burst into tears if I met a woman I liked and she revealed the attraction was mutual. I can't imagine how that must feel - having someone be enthusiastic about you in the same way you've been enthusiastic about women your entire life. There's nothing I wouldn't do for that feeling.
1 SophisticatedDalek 2018-05-12
It's ok to exchange resources for sex, just don't sign a marriage contract even with a prenup, the prenup will be thrown out.
1 bobsbigbouy 2018-05-12
If you both have lawyers, and she has her own lawyer, then the prenup will probably stand up in court if you have a lawyer defending it. Of course, for working class plebs, many of us couldn't afford that kind of protracted legal battle so we'd capitulate even with the prenup.
1 Board_Gaming 2018-05-12
I'm not looking for anyone to support me financially and I'm not looking to get with any Chads.
1 yaogauiasaurus 2018-05-12
Board_gaming... Do you ever feel like the lunatics are running the asylum here?
1 Board_Gaming 2018-05-12
I don't think all Incels are mentally ill.
1 yaogauiasaurus 2018-05-12
I was trying to be funny :p but I don't think so either.
1 uglyloser567 2018-05-12
LMAO.
Tries to get mod to support his point of view, gets destroyed and then claims it was a joke. Fucking retard. Do you honestly think people are as brain dead as you to believe that shit.
1 yaogauiasaurus 2018-05-12
Its funny that you can get all that information from such a small interaction. You must be so smRt
1 damnsong 2018-05-12
LMFAO Numale redditor indoctrinated by cuckspeak.
1 yaogauiasaurus 2018-05-12
In not sure that applies to me tbh
1 Carkudo 2018-05-12
You are seeking Chad. You havehigh standards.
1 General_Duggah 2018-05-12
No Chad would touch an overweight black girl lmaooo
1 Board_Gaming 2018-05-12
Good thing I'm not looking for Chad.
1 Sean4123 2018-05-12
LOL its ok man you don't have to worry about either scenario.
1 13139 2018-05-12
Well, evolution says principled people like you are going to breed themselves out of style.
That's kind of a bitter pill to swallow.
1 TropicalStormJim 2018-05-12
It's not a hereditary trait, as homosexuality is not either. Have gay people bred themselves out?
1 13139 2018-05-12
Who knows how many gay people were there in the past?
Evidence now says suggest gayness is caused by developmental problems, more precisely, badly set epigenetic protective factors.
So male fetus gets too feminized, or female one too masculinized.
You say that, but so, so many things are hereditary traits.
The opposite of being principled, that is, being psychopathic, is a hereditary trait.
1 c0mpliant 2018-05-12
"evidence"
1 13139 2018-05-12
http://europepmc.org/articles/PMC3840696
1 sydneycel 2018-05-12
Better to get a prime 18 year old girl from Asia or something than a used up 30 year old roastie.
1 Alexdadank 2018-05-12
Why would you call them roasties that’s based on non factual bullshit atleast you real insults when demeaning a woman
1 AlieanBreac 2018-05-12
Once you understand how sexual selection works, you understand how to effectively insult members of both sexes. Insults are rarely literal. If I call you a motherfucker, you shouldn't assume that I literally believe you fuck your mother. By the same token, it's not that people who use the slur "roastie" believe that a woman's labia literally resembles slabs of roast beef as a consequence of riding the cock carousel ad libitum. Rather, the term roastie is a form of symbolic slut shaming. By implying that a woman is a slut, i.e. has blown out roast beef curtains, you are marking her as a low value woman.
Of course, the opposite applies to men. A number of women on Crystal.Cafe recently sought to push back against the roastie label by attempting to come up with an analogous insulting label for a man's private parts: "Hey, let's all start calling men gherkins from now on!" one woman suggested. This can never work. Men are not ashamed of their anatomy and simply referring to a men by a euphemism for cocks misses the larger point behind slurring women as roasties—sexual selection. The most cutting insult for a man is one that marks him as being of low sexual market value. These labels include "virgin" and "incel," even if the man in question is neither. He could be married with kids and "forever alone virgin" is still more insulting than calling him a cute name for a cock.
1 TruthInBlack 2018-05-12
They don't even try to hide it anymore because they don't have to. Feminism has already destroyed rhe West.
1 SmokeyMcBlunt 2018-05-12
Nuclearpill.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-12
it's truly over for men in 2018.
1 acoverover1 2018-05-12
white shariah NOW
Heill Odhinn
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-12
SIEG ODIN!
1 aryancel 2018-05-12
heill odinn sael odinn
1 sydneycel 2018-05-12
Could we actually convert to Islam and get a good obedient Islamic wife?
1 microagressorcunt 2018-05-12
Yes
1 Cristalline144hz 2018-05-12
Totally possible.
1 yass2k1 2018-05-12
What do you think Islam is? Do you think if you say your a Muslim a random hot girl will want to marry you? You realise you can't force someone to marry you in Islam both people have to agree so I'm sorry but looks will still matter the only thing in Islam you guys have correct is that Islam looks down on revealing clothing and we'll being a slut with BOTH MEN AND WOMEN. Women are not second class citizens in Islam and also just so you know a mother is above the father
1 bobsbigbouy 2018-05-12
Yet Islam allows you to marry a 6 year old, and consummate your marriage when she's 9, as Muhammad, the perfect Muslim, did with his child-bride Aisha. Children can't consent, therefore you can in fact force someone to marry you in Islam.
1 yass2k1 2018-05-12
Why are people slowly reducing her age she was 9 when married and 12 when consummated it was said many times that they matured a lot faster during those times and this was. Very normal practice then in fact it was still considered normal 100 years around 50 years ago too when their were many people from Western societies that argued against Islam this Hadith was known to them since this wasn't out of the ordinary for them back then either. Anyway back on topic yes she can consent she was 9 and again was mature in fact it was said that she often felt jealous of the prophet Muhammad's other wife's so yes she did consent and agreed it is very clearly forbidden in Islam to force a marriage on some one.
Plus something I want to say her age was mentioned in a Hadith which are not all accurate as Hadiths are not from the Quran but are usually just from Muslim scholars and some people managed to find out that aisha (prophet Muhammad's wife that you said was 6) was in fact 19 when she married this was found out by comparing key events in history that took place and Alisha's sisters age at those dates(which was said that she was around 10 years younger than Aisha) they found out Aisha actual age when she married
Either way whether you choose to believe this is up to you I just showed you two arguments so if you don't believe my second argument look at the first and if you disagree with my first argument then look at the second
(I wrote this pretty fast so there might be spelling errors or auto correct changed a few words)
1 gufestus2 2018-05-12
Oh god. We actually have a Islamic nutcase in here. We'll buddy boyo, your religion sucks. It's barbaric and retarded.
1 yass2k1 2018-05-12
Yeah I'm sure you know a lot about Islam from your very reliable Islam hating sources don't you Most of the verses you heard about have either been mistranslated or taken out of context Let me show you some verses that people like Britain first take out of context :
“As for such [of the unbelievers] as do not fight against you on account of [your] faith, and neither drive you forth from your homelands, God does not forbid you to show them kindness and to behave towards them with full equity: for, verily, God loves those who act equitably.
God only forbids you to turn in friendship towards such as fight against you because of [your] faith, and drive you forth from your homelands, or aid [others] in driving you forth: and as for those [from among you] who turn towards them in friendship; it is they, they who are truly wrongdoers!” (Quran 60:8-9) They would usually say it is forbidden in Islam to be friendly with non believers
Or this verse
“Verily, the worst of beasts in the sight of God are those who conceal (the truth), and do not acknowledge it. These are those whom you have made a peace treaty with, but they break their treaty at every opportunity and have no fear of the law.” (Quran 8:55-56) They would say the Quran says non believers are considered the worst of beasts there are so many more quotes people love to twist making Islam look like something it is not
1 gufestus2 2018-05-12
Nah. I know of Islam from the very reliable source of living in a country with a very big Islamic population.
1 bobsbigbouy 2018-05-12
bwahahaha
10 years old dude
1 yass2k1 2018-05-12
Yeah a few do say 12. though I never knew that it was the minority as I said to the other guy I'm not a sheikh Anyway look at this source please read it fully if you really don't want to at least skip to the part where it talks about how old she was and his methods of calculation
1 MarinoMyCheese 2018-05-12
Nonetheless this was not considered abnormal by an means in those times in before Islam took over the peninsula. Why is historical context never applied to this? Do people forget Joseph and Marry's age gap as well?
1 acoverover1 2018-05-12
I appreciate your work brother. Heill the old ways, reject modernity at all costs.
1 acoverover1 2018-05-12
lmao. TIL children are literally incapable of saying 'yes' and meaning it. Truly remarkable
1 efeenes74 2018-05-12
Yes brozzer, they're not second class citizens at all, brozzer! Neither are gays, atheists, christians and jews!
"But it's out of context, brozzer!" I love how no Muslim ever throws this exact argument whenever a verse says something good, as in, not fucking genocidal. Apologists only search for context when they want it to be there. There are peaceful verses that aren't so peaceful when you look at their context yet no Muslim ever has shown me that.
"It's a wrong translation brozzer!" True, 'cause Arabic is the only language in the world that you can learn, but can't translate. Nobody seems to make a "correct" translation when it comes to Quran and the Hadith, huh? Correct being, the translation that fits in with your agenda.
"Quran can only be understood in Arabic, brozzer!" Yeah because somehow the God who created an infinite universe along with life was only capable of sending an illegible retarded book in a little over 20 years. Even Scientology's books are written better than this absolute dogshit book that Allah almighty sent.
I know you live in a Muslim country, I do so myself and I agree that mothers are "valued". But telling people to rape Jews, then saying you love Jews afterwards does not change the fact that you told people to rape Jews. It doesn't negate what you said, nor does it make your ideology peaceful.
I was a Muslim just like you, say, 3 to 4 years ago. I used to use the same excuses I wrote above to defend Islam. Take one good look and you'll realize that there is nothing worthwhile to defend. Greek philosophers had a better understanding at what was right, wrong and ethical fucking hundreds of years before Muhammad.
1 yass2k1 2018-05-12
Wrong I actually live in the uk wales specifically I often visit Arab countries whenever I go on holiday though but that's the closest I get. I'm from Iraq though can't go there though due to the war. Anyway honestly though I'm not a sheikh I'm 17 and I don't go to a Muslim school so I'm not going to be able to counteract everything with an answer I just know most of what I know from watching and going to lectures whether in the mosque or YouTube I am fully comfortable with my religion and I don't see anything that can prove it wrong though there are many things that prove it right. Whenever I see something that I think doesn't look right or I kind of disagree with as soon as I research the truth of it I understand it and don't see any reason to disagree. I did this with many things. The Big Bang theory, evolution, aishas marriage etc I'm trying to look for a source and I might ask a family member or a sheikh about the quotes you posted and I'm 100% sure there will be an explanation for it.
Also please whoever is reading this whether you a Christian Jew atheist or already a Muslim just read this the whole thing if you think it's stupid in the beginning there will be a argument for a against it after every section
https://debatewise.org/debates/229-there-is-a-mathematical-miracle-in-the-quran-that-proves-it-is-the-word-of-god/
1 efeenes74 2018-05-12
Wales huh? Cool. I'm sure as someone who's visited Arab countries before surely you've seen women in veils, right?
That last link read exactly like a freak conspiracy theory lmao. I read the entirety of it, and I've actually heard some of the things in there before, things like iron's atomic number in the Quran and the human chromosome. Instead of looking at the message of the book, you're looking at it from a mathematical angle, which proves... what, again? That it's the book of God? Then Ernest Vincent Wright must surely be the son of God because he took his time and wrote Gadsby without a single E, and Lincoln and Kennedy were the holy spirits because their lives were coincidentally connected, etc. It's easy to create miracles when you want them to exist. I could spend twenty years, write another Quran and there'd be people who'd analyze my writings for the next 1400 years and making up some conspiracy theories about it.
In fact someone has actually done it. From one of Matthew Stanley's articles, who has written chapter in his book about this math code mumbo jumbo:
And on top of that Quran contradicts itself on this very topic.
Basically says that this mathematical "miracle" exists to convince nonbelievers that Quran is in fact true. But this here ayah states the exact opposite:
Throw what I've said in the trash, said Allah, and contradicted Himself once more.
If we're really going to talk science, and about Quran's excellence in mathematics and other sciences, take a look at the million things it got wrong first.
The earth is flat, the mountains don't change, stars are in the atmosphere, meteors are shot at the devil, the sun has a place where it sets when in reality it doesn't exist, since you know, the earth isn't fucking flat, the universe and earth were created in 6 days as opposed to 9 million years, there are only 5 principal layers of the atmosphere, not seven as opposed to what the Quran says, no there aren't seven earths, or planets in the solar system, there are 8, humans aren't made up of dust, dirt, clay, and the sky can't actually fall on people, etcetera etcetera. The God who sent the all holy, one true book in more than twenty fucking years knows less about science than us.
But enough of this 9/11-like conspiracy theory about Allah's existence and the science surrounding it. Quran is an ethics book, isn't it? That's what I hear whenever this topic comes up. I'm gonna quote what I said in a previous comment:
Look at the context, whatever, look at the million different translations. But if none of the things written above were true then Sharia surely wouldn't exist.
Now I'm not saying Muslims are violent, they aren't. But the entire ideology is pure garbage. It's violent, the prophet was a murderer and a pedophile, the book is wrong on so many levels, it doesn't fit into society, and an ethical peaceful book didn't bother to get rid of slavery. Cool.
1 yass2k1 2018-05-12
Ok this is going to be long
First making a book without a single e in it is completely different than writing a book with dozens maybe even 50+of different cases of (I'm not sure what the right word to call it is so I'll go with mathematical symbolism) mathematical symbolism which don't even try to lie it wouldn't be possible for a group of famous book authors, scientists and mathematicians to create so don't even try to say you could plus it also showed many facts that are only known today's as you said you already know about the chromosomes one so here's another And amazingly enough have a look how many times the following words appear:- -Month 12 -Day 365 -Sea 32 -Land 13 -Sea + land = 32 + 13 = 45 - % sea = 32/45 * 100 % = 71.11111111 - % land= 13 / 45 * 100 % = 28.88888889 Therefore: % sea+ % land = 100.00 Modern Science has only recently proven that the water covers 71.111% of the earth, while the land covers 28.889 %. Is this a coincidence? Also are you actually trying to say that an ILLITERATE man 1400 years ago could create the Quran not only stating facts that have only recently been discovered such as “IT IS HE WHO CREATED NIGHT AND DAY, THE SUN AND THE MOON, EACH FLOATING IN ITS ORBIT.” But also he could also create it in such a way not even poets of today's age could match it this sums it up pretty well:
"Eloquence and Literary Excellence of the Qur-aan The Qur-aanic prose is superbly elegant, eloquent and par excellence in literal quality. It is humanly impossible even for literary masters to produce such an extensive work of consistent quality with its intense poetic impact and a soul-piercing force. This was in itself an explicit miracle for Arabs of that time - especially coming from the mouth of an illiterate person who had no such training in Arab poetry and composition."
Their are many more but you can see that in the link I showed you though with your questions I'm starting to doubt you actually read it
Now the second point you said the Quran contradicts itself well I say you don't want to believe it so much your imagining things your completely misinterpreting the texts it says "Allah will LEAVE astray" not lead basically Allah says he will show everyone signs to Islam and allow them the chance to become Muslim and to those that do try to follow Islam Allah will show them the way and to those who see the signs and yet refuse to follow back on the path will be LEFT astray. Think of this as your sign whoever is reading this
Third point most of what you say I know for a fact isn't in the Quran I think you've been reading the bible mate. Specifically says the earth is oval shape (like an egg) ❝And the earth, moreover. Hath He made egg shaped.❞ ― Al-Qur'ān, sūrah al-Nāziʿāt (The Wresters), Chapter 79, verse 30
The Quran also does mention the Big Bang and even the Big Crunch both of which again only recently discovered it also talks of how the earth was formed as you know before planets formed there was only an opaque gas in the universe well.. ❝Then He directed himself to the Heaven when it was SMOKE, and then said to it and to Earth: "Come willingly or by force" they said "We do come willingly"❞ ― Al-Qurʾān, sūrah Fuṣṣilat It also is a mis translation it doesn't say the earth was created in 6 days but in 6 periods of time or 6 eras though we don't know how long exactly that is as it does say through the Quran time is different in the heavens It also has been discovered that After the developments in biology and chemistry, analytical studies of clay and the human body were carried out. The result showed that the constituents of clay and those of the human body fit exactly. The others you said I don't know about and I really can't be bothered researching it this has taken long to write I'm sure if you actually research it and look for a actual muslim scholars response on it they will explain chances are the facts are either true or a mistranslation of sorts so either find out if they are actually false or look for the correct translation. Here's website for you to look at that mentions many scientific facts mentioned in the Quran that was only recently discovered
https://www.quora.com/Does-the-Holy-Quran-contain-scientific-facts-that-were-discovered-by-scientists-centuries-later-If-so-what-were-they
Now for your final point I explained it to another guy on this post most of them are taken out of context E.G. It says "kill all of the disbelievers" but right after that which isn't included in the quote it says "that want to attack and invade your homes" (this is not an actual quote I cba looking for one) Islam is the religion of peace not pacifism
So yes sharia law would act in these like America would kill the soldiers that are trying to attack it but they went even further beyond and dropped a bomb on Hiroshima which killed thousands of innocent people that weren't involved in the war including women children which is strictly prohibited in Islam (and it says disbelievers as why would two Muslim nations fight against each over if they were both truly muslim.
A great quote I once heard too "Islam and Muslims are not the same things Islam is perfect Muslims aren't
Don't expect a long reply like this again if I'm going to give a reply it WILL NOT be an essay like this again
Btw I respect your not saying a bunch of hate speech that most people say and calling me a terrorists ect it's kind of hard being in a discussion concerning Islam without being called one
1 efeenes74 2018-05-12
Your comment hurts to read man.
Why are you telling me not to question something so bogus? And I can't recreate it, because... Of what? You're giving me no reasoning here, and on top of that you're telling me that the world's smartest people can't do it either. With no reasoning whatsoever. It looks oddly like brainwashing.
Clearly biased. You talk like there's something so unbelievably good about the Quran yet it contradicts itself so many times:
How the hell does that refute my point? I think you're the one who's imagining things here or you've accidentally read something else other than the verses I put in my comment.
"We have not made their number except as a trial for those who disbelieve - that those who were given the Scripture will be convinced" says that it was made to convince nonbelievers that it's true.
"We have shown clearly the signs to a people who are certain [in faith]." and this here says that the signs were for people who were certain in faith. How do you not see the contradiction?
That's actually insulting ngl. I did read the entirety of the things said in that link, and said that I had heard a couple of the things there before, you didn't need to explain it all over again. There are some coincidences here and there, true, and I do agree that it sounds good, sometimes even too good to be true. But my point still stands, a single person or a group of people could pull of the same trick. It's not some God's miracle if I, a human being, can replicate it. A miracle, I'd say, would be Muhammad splitting the moon in half, which again there's no proof of.
The part about the word counting and other stuff is explained by this guy:
http://abdullahsameer.com/blog/the-so-called-mathematical-miracle-of-the-quran/
Speaking of links, have you taken a look at the wiki page I sent about Quran spreading bogus scientific info? I'm guessing you haven't, because you didn't talk about it in your comment.
That's debatable. Some Hadith say that, in fact, he did write. Also he was a merchant, he had to know how to read and write to some extent. We don't have a definite idea on his literacy but I'm leaning towards the fact that he did.
It does say that the sun and the moon follow a course and swim, but even a little kid could say that because you can make the same claim just by looking at the sun and the moon. It's observable with the naked eye so it's not an impressive feat when you think about it, especially after considering that astronomers were able to predict the motion of the planets in 3rd century BC. Not impressed.
Why do Islam websites still say days then? Are all translations wrong? Are they all dumb?
https://islamqa.info/en/31865
https://quran.com/79/30 <--- Your ayah, read it again.
It says he spread the earth. You can't spread something that's egg shaped. Do you know what your sources are? Did you do research on the topic?
https://www.quranite.com/flat-earth-quran/ <--- This guy here thinks the earth is flat. Yeah.
If Islam were perfect then Sharia, law which is purely based on Islam, wouldn't exist. You have the very thing to refute that claim of yours in front of your two eyes yet you don't see it. This is blatant brainwashing. I know because I've been in your position before.
I've actually done more research on this. Quran says humans were created FROM clay, contrary to the scientific hypothesis that clay merely 'match-makes' RNA and membrane vesicles. It does not form a building block.
It's not something that Islam originally came up with anyway.
Etcetera etcetera. Many more examples of this in other religions. I don't want to write them all down, this comment will be long.
1 efeenes74 2018-05-12
This is the part of discussing Islam which I hate with my existence. You will, NEVER, EVER see a Muslim scholar say bad things about Islam. It's not going to happen. There are many factors that go into play. One, they're biased, two, they'll lose their jobs as a muslim scholar the instant they say something bad, three, they'll be hated by many. And depending on where the scholar lives, he may even get legally executed for speaking out against Islam. Free speech on the Quran is very limited.
Turan Dursun, a mufti turned Islam critic, was threatened for years because of his books which were critical of Islam. He was assassinated in front of his home. No, that didn't happen in Saudi Arabia, it happened in Turkey. A majority of Muslims are violent against nonbelievers. I've lived in Turkey all my life, I see it happen a lot.
I would love to see you explain this one in depth.
IF that were the case, and what you were saying is indeed true, then why do nonbelievers get legally executed under Sharia law, a law which was made by many muslim scholars?
Also not true:
Muhammad sieged the city of Taif with catapults. Like nukes, catapults also kill indiscriminately.
Boys start growing pubic hair between the ages of 9 to 13. Not only that:
You can kill children if you can differentiate between the non-believers and the muslims.
I find that shit counter-productive, honestly. Calling someone a terrorist just for having different beliefs is nothing short of dumb, and it achieves nothing. In the same sense, you could call me an atheist and damn my entire lineage to hell but I don't see you doing that either. Thanks.
1 yass2k1 2018-05-12
Your first point yes I guess for you they would be biased but if they are a Muslim scholar then yes they would be in support of Islam since if you actually find out about Islam people usually end up becoming Muslim and there is always an explanation whenever someone against Islam has a question or tries to attack it
Your other point Again as I explained to the other guy Islam is perfect Muslims aren't many Muslims do stupid things Islam is the path though Muslims try to follow the path some more than others there are those that go completely against it without knowing it sometimes they do though as muslims are humans and no matter what they believe or where they are from there will always be someone that does wrong
Now your last point I said this to another guy so I'll just copy and paste most of my comment here.
"Most of the verses you heard about have either been mistranslated or taken out of context Let me show you some verses that people like Britain first take out of context :
“As for such [of the unbelievers] as do not fight against you on account of [your] faith, and neither drive you forth from your homelands, God does not forbid you to show them kindness and to behave towards them with full equity: for, verily, God loves those who act equitably.
God only forbids you to turn in friendship towards such as fight against you because of [your] faith, and drive you forth from your homelands, or aid [others] in driving you forth: and as for those [from among you] who turn towards them in friendship; it is they, they who are truly wrongdoers!” (Quran 60:8-9) They would usually say it is forbidden in Islam to be friendly with non believers
Or this verse
“Verily, the worst of beasts in the sight of God are those who conceal (the truth), and do not acknowledge it. These are those whom you have made a peace treaty with, but they break their treaty at every opportunity and have no fear of the law.” (Quran 8:55-56) They would say the Quran says non believers are considered the worst of beasts there are so many more quotes people love to twist making Islam look like something it is not"
And just for a few of your last bits I'll answer quick I don't think nukes and catapults are very similar And I don't know anything about those verses whether their hadiths or actual verses or if they are also taken out of context (you'd be surprised how often that happens) Google it where a sheikh or scholar answers it for you since as long as it makes sense I do t see the problem you can look at both sides a for and against if you want Anyway I think that's done I'm tired asf and these discussions are very long to write up Thanks for being civil and I wish a lot more atheists/people from other religions were as open minded as you and actually want to find out more instead of just shitting on it In ignorance
1 efeenes74 2018-05-12
Over the last few years, non-theism has been growing in Islamic schools in Turkey. And it's not limited to schools either, this trend can be seen in the general population. The more people learn about the religion, the more they get repulsed by it.
This is the lie I and many others have been fed since birth. Islam is far from perfect. ISIS are a bunch of uncivilized brutes, yes, but their ideology is backed up by the Quran and Hadith which only proves my point. Yes, there may be different interpretations of the same text, but if you blatantly put 109 verses about killing non-Muslims in your book then I'm not sure there's anything peaceful in there.
Ayah 60:8-9 and 8:55-56. Okay, well enough. I've got no problem with that. Let's take a look at ayah 60:10 then:
"O you who have believed, when the believing women come to you as emigrants, examine them. Allah is most knowing as to their faith. And if you know them to be believers, then do not return them to the disbelievers; they are not lawful [wives] for them, nor are they lawful [husbands] for them. But give the disbelievers what they have spent. And there is no blame upon you if you marry them when you have given them their due compensation. And hold not to marriage bonds with disbelieving women, but ask for what you have spent and let them ask for what they have spent. That is the judgement of Allah ; He judges between you. And Allah is Knowing and Wise."
Let me give some historical context to this verse. Muhammad signed the Hudaibiya treaty with Meccans, which stated that any Muslim Meccan fleeing to Medina must be returned, and vice versa. But Muhammad broke the treaty, kept the women who fled to Medina to himself and a verse from Allah, creator of all, followed.
Then Muhammad broke the treaty again by having his men attack and kill Meccan merchants.
https://muflihun.com/bukhari/50/891
They both kill indiscriminately, which was my point.
I don't think I want to be fed information by someone who's blatantly biased. I have my own brain I can process the information I read with my own two eyes, and you have your own. As long as we look at the historical context and read different translations of a verse we won't need the biased opinion of any businessman who makes cash off religion.
Thank you for being civil as well. If I hadn't been talking to someone as open minded as you are I'm pretty sure I'd have received some death threats by now.
1 yass2k1 2018-05-12
The first link you posted I don't even have to post an argument for it the comment section did it for me a lot of what he said was false and he didn't do proper research hears one comment I saw there are many others and this one seems to like the word incompetent
"Another incompetent article for your incompetent blog …….you cant just write the translated word in a search and blindly just write down the number you get….even a novice knows that… ill prove your incompetence below but let me just say ive noticed that usually your mind processes things incompetently to mislead yourself and others but in this case its just incompetent research…. the only thing more shocking than the incompetence is the outright arrogance throughout the article and the shamelessness with which you posted it in public…Its easy for incompetent people to copy, paste and find short cuts to come to sensationalist conclusions……Let me list out the incompetence for you and i hope you atleast have the sincerity to not delete my comment
glimpses of your incompetence and your inability to share competent links are seen in earlier comments
there is a vast amount of research on the mathematical patterns in the Quran …. all of varying degrees of complexity ….you decided to deal with the easiest which is counting contrasting words…..i mean your article shows that not only were you lazy to do the actual research…you dont even know basic arabic as i will prove below
i specifically asked you to deal with Dr. Shabir Allys work….bcos i know there are many incompetent sites including your own….what is the point of getting information from an incompetent site and then doing your own incompetent research to add to the incompetence
i realised that since i was responsible for your stupid article which may now go on to mislead more of our gullible muslim youth i would have to deal with your incompetent mess….incompetent people always seem to have more time and means to spread their incompetence…. you gave out 4 examples to try to prove your arrogant claims….of which only 1 was mentioned by Dr. Shabbir Ally; SINGULAR FORMS OF MAN 24 times and SINGULAR FORMS OF WOMAN 24 times….so let me deal only with that especially since you used it to arrogantly slander islam …. this example alone is enough to sure you dont know what the hell you are doing
the sad thing about incompetent people is the hard work of competent people which takes years gets discredited..and incompetent people also see to have more time to spew out their incompetence…..i had to actually sit down for hours to do the research of only the words MAN and WOMAN …. just by looking at your figures i could see the incompetence… You said woman only appears 12 times in all its forms but i found 24 singular forms for woman and that alone is enough to disprove you….im no arabic expert but i know you dont know arabic bcos you listed out ‘dhati’ and ‘hamlin’ as separate whilst in the Quran you would have found they are actually written together to mean a ‘pregnant woman’ I dont know how you got the word MAN 29 times…….but you must have included MAN with all its derivatives like plural form…..remember arabic is not english and whilst in english man can be plural to include mankind in general or both male and female Shabir Ally specifically told you to only include the SINGULAR FORM of RAJUL …. its not his fault you dont know arabic grammar and how it works….. Below i have listed for you the places in the Quran for SIGULAR FORM OF MAN 24 times and SINGULAR FORM OF WOMAN 24 TIMES…
As a bonus are you suprised you get death threats? ill just deal with the treason law (not just apostasy)…..we dont have an islamic country that implements the full islamic shariah including the political, economic, welfare, civil, criminal aspects of it….but some countries do have the criminal penal code….if you left islam and kept it to yourself then an islamic governement would not disturb you…but since you go out in public and deceive the youth with your incompetence in an islamic land you have 2 options….you could either repent and recant and be set free or you could leave that islamic land and spew your poison designed to mislead the youth elsewhere….
i sincerely hope this will make you reflect and keep your incompetence to yourself instead of deceiving people on youtube and your blog….. do something more productive wth your life…..religion is not a joke to lots of people…they take it seriously
SINGULAR FORM OF WOMAN = 24 times 1.) 27:23 2.) 4:12 3.) 33:50 4.) 37:135 5.) 4:128 6.) 3:35 7.8.) 2:178 ( appears 2 times maybe in variant singular forms) 9.) 40:40 10.) 16:97 11.) 22:2 12.) 24:2 13.14.15.) 2:221 (appears 3 times maybe in variant singular forms) 16.) 11:72 17.) 26:171 18.19.) 51:29 (appears 2 times maybe in variant singular forms) 20.21.22.) 24:3 (appears 3 times maybe in variant singular forms) 23.) 33:36 24.) 33:50
SINGULAR FORM OF MAN =24 times 1.) 33:4 2.3.4) 39:29 (appears 3 times) 5.6.) 40:28 (appears 2 times) 7.) 43:31 8.) 6:9 9.) 7:63 10.) 10:2 11.) 11:78 12.) 17:47 13.) 18:37 14.) 25:8 15.) 28:20 16.) 34:7 17.) 34:43 18.) 7:69 19.) 23:25 20.) 36:20 21.) 23:38 22.) 2:282 23.) 4:12 24.) 4:176"
Another thing you said was yawm being a mistranslation yeah sorry I kind of worded it wrong it's not a mistranslation I'm Arabic and we do use yawm as day it's more like Arabic is just different from English there won't be exact translations for everything yawm is more like period of time of the place your in I guess so in earth yes it would be 24 hours though on mars it would be different and I think this is the yawm of the heavens or of the universe it's up for interpretation really you could believe its 6 days if you want or you could believe it's more it's up to you this isn't considered important it's the sane with evolution with animals you can choose to believe it if you want since the Quran doesn't mention it disproving it or proving it the only thing you should believe is that humans weren't part of evolution
The earth spreading out bit was mentioned on the link I posted I guess you didn't read it I can't remember the website and I can't look at my old comment without closing this comment so just go look at it again yourself
Next I think you misinterpreted my message "Islam is perfect Muslims aren't" I meant that the religion of Islam is perfect meaning the Quran and all of its teachings that is Islam though Muslims are humans they make mistakes they are not perfect a Muslim is supposed to try their best to follow the teachings of Islam though as humans we fail to do it perfectly as in some way chances are someone will make a mistake whether Big or small, many or few sharia law in many Arab countries is corrupt in fact their government is corrupt and many are only Muslims in name only if even that so the sharia law in Islam and the sharia law implemented by society is different if it was true sharia law nothing will be enforced their may be no legal gay marriages or sex change operations but no one would be allowed to kill or attack those that are gay or had a sex change also the uf (Burqaa) or hijab also shouldn't be forced by law I went a little of topic but yeah true sharia law is Islam and every Muslim should already be following it no matter the country they are in as it does say to respect the laws of the land you are in so you could say sharia law is the law of the country you are living in.
The rest of what you say is just Islam never thought of it first cause yeah prophet Muhammad picked information from which was theorised from all over the world and only picked the ones that were correct like come on man you realise they had so many different theories and like 90% of them were wrong I've heard people say Muslims took that from the Greeks they took it from the Spanish they took it from the mongols they took it from this other tribe halfway across the world. Also how are you going to explain accurately having the correct percentage of land and water mass shown in a way of saying the words land and water in the exact ratio same thing with the chromosomes how do you explain please tell me did they also steal that from the mongols?
The rest of what you say is just how you interpret it, is opinionated or just needs a little research. this post is a lot longer than I meant it to be though this was a pretty deep discussion well for me anyway I usually cant write more than a paragraph in my school assignments without Day dreaming.
1 efeenes74 2018-05-12
The ayah mentioned in your link was entirely false. They blatantly distorted the original content of the ayah. That's why I posted a link to the correct version of the ayah from quran.com, which does not talk about the earth having an egg shape at all.
I got what you were trying to mean in your original comment. What I said in my comment is that Islam is by no means perfect and its teachings are morally and ethically wrong.
So Quran is not the word of Allah, but the word of Muhammad? Okay.
He only picked information that was correct, as you said. Also, there's indeed signs of the Quran being altered.
https://www.quora.com/Has-the-Quran-ever-changed-over-time
Yeah the argument you cited in your comment seems thought out, I'll give you that. I can't really seem to explain these mathematical coincidences, and from what I've seen not many have been able to. What I'll say is, I think many of these are just that, coincidences. If Allah planted a code, then had the contents of his words changed afterwards, the code would not be in place today.
People go around and use the same mathematical code on the bible and have some findings as well. Same applies to many other books. You can find many more coincidences like this if you actively look for them, especially if your book is long.
Every ayah in the Quran is made to be enforced. You cannot choose which to enforce or abide by.
You are not to make up your own opinion on a matter which was already decided by Allah and Muhammad.
And unbelievers are as follows, according to Sharia law o8.7:
-2- to intend to commit unbelief, even if in the future
-3- to deny the existence of Allah... or any of his attributes
-6- to be sarcastic about Allah's name, his command, his interdiction... or his threat
-7- to deny any verse of the Quran
-8- to mockingly say, "I don't know what faith is"
-17- to believe that things in themselves or by their own nature have any causal influence independent of the will of Allah
If you deny the verses above, you're a nonbeliever, and therefore you can be executed. It is the word of Muhammad.
You can look at the verses I cited and make up your own interpretation for them. I mean, I don't think there's much open to interpretation. The meaning is clear as day. I'd get your point if there were four or five violent verses in Quran or the Hadith, but having more than 109 verses just about killing infidels, that's where I draw the line.
1 JamesLucratif 2018-05-12
Well at least they'll get their feet cut off if they try to divorce Chad. Gotta pick your battles m8
1 Incel9876 2018-05-12
Depends on the country, in more Islamic countries following actual Islam, the woman's consent is purely token as it is the father's consent that matters. But yeah, Islamic women want attractive men also, and male converts have low status which is why they've often recruited into the more "radical" (real) versions so to prove themselves or to capture a bride or four in war (perfectly Islamic).
1 yass2k1 2018-05-12
Please tell me which countries you are talking about that follow the Quran so well
1 yogfan101 2018-05-12
Yes, and it's advisable. You won't just get a waifu in the male the moment you start frequenting /r/Islam, however. Go to the Mosque regularly, get to know your community, they will eventually help you find a bride that will not be permitted to disobey you.
1 acoverover1 2018-05-12
If you moved to a Muslim country, yeah probably. In Western countries your chances would be higher but it definitely isn't certain.
1 bongrippa 2018-05-12
If you're threatened by feminism, it's because you're not much of a man. Stop blaming others for your own shortcomings and work to improve yourself.
1 genetically_cursed 2018-05-12
gender of poster by emojis in title detected
1 tfl38yrs 2018-05-12
The "safe guy" translates to cuck.
1 sydneycel 2018-05-12
Or, makes $100k.
1 cookin_breakfast 2018-05-12
The sad thing is hundreds of retarded beta bucks will be lining up for her when she's ready to settle. Fuck
1 sydneycel 2018-05-12
I think slowly normie men are waking up to the fact that relationships with modern femoids are rigged.
1 norwood_victim 2018-05-12
source? i feel like raging a little
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-12
Here, but I'll warn you. He has a lot of these videos and they are pure sui fuel. I can't watch them.
1 SharqPhinFtw 2018-05-12
I like how honest the chick in the last scene was.
1 balloonanusanimals 2018-05-12
you liked that she wasn't an idiotic brainwashed zealot
1 SharqPhinFtw 2018-05-12
You could not be brainwashed and still try to tone shit down. She said it all straight.
1 acoverover1 2018-05-12
australian women are garbage
1 sydneycel 2018-05-12
I reckon Australian women are even worse than American and British women. Most American women I've met have been genuinely nice to me at least, where as Australian women give me fuck off signals before I even open my mouth, as they're disgusted that a subhuman incel even thinks he's worthy enough of their time.
1 PeterShillington 2018-05-12
First thing they usually ask is "do you own your own house" I always reply with laughter and "do you" as I walk off as far away as possible
1 gastowner 2018-05-12
Because Australia is filled with Chads.
1 IsThisRealReddit 2018-05-12
Surfer Chads?
1 moggedbyall 2018-05-12
work on your bantz game. Powerful negs turn them on probably.
1 Idk12344482305 2018-05-12
australianwomen are garbage except for some of our mothers and the Virgin Mary1 auto-warmbeer 2018-05-12
Ew no my mom is a cunt and Mary was a slut that took a lie too far.
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-12
Correct. They're trash.
1 sydneycel 2018-05-12
They bring the blackpill to the mainstream, meaning more men will be drawn to the house of St. BlackOps2Cel.
1 braveoperavivaldi 2018-05-12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFhZZwgvLRQ
3:15
1 norwood_victim 2018-05-12
thanks
1 ProgrammaticallyCut 2018-05-12
damn that video was a brutal blackpill. And here I thought women being into stuff like that was just a specific niche/fetish.
1 Madeon929 2018-05-12
I almost killed myself.
Chad is who they were talking about.
1 Dingus_Incel 2018-05-12
I give her credit for actually admitting what so many women deny.
1 IsThisRealReddit 2018-05-12
That‘s what I thought about too
1 headforthehills 2018-05-12
she isn't even smug about it, she just laying out the facts
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-12
I think the only reason she admitted it is because she's in a friendly environment in which she knows she's not gonna get attacked for saying that. Pretty sure that if she posted here she'd deny the very same things she's admitting in the video.
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-12
"why do you only want virgins lower ypur fucking standards"
1 CrawlOuttaLove 2018-05-12
lmao so true.
1 nofapmewtwo 2018-05-12
Chad fucks beta bux SMFH, then that betabux will get cucked by Tyrone. It's a vicious rinse and repeat cycle that has no end in sight.
1 RAZENKN 2018-05-12
TYROOONE WILL CUCK YOU
1 sydneycel 2018-05-12
Lucky in Australia we don't have too many Tyrones yet, but given how much feminists seem to love African rapefugees and making excuses for them as they go on crime sprees in Melbourne, it's coming.
1 SwansonSamsonite 2018-05-12
I'd rather be incel for life than a provider for a woman in her "later on"s who wouldn't give me the time of day when she was 19.
1 azucel 2018-05-12
afbb
1 deividasbertasius1 2018-05-12
this kind of black pill about blown out vaginas should be showed and teached in public schools, just to make sure that normal males don't fall into the marriage trap
1 __vs__ 2018-05-12
Actually no because blown out vaginas are biologically impossible
1 PROLAPSED_SUBWOOFER 2018-05-12
This. Vaginas are literally indestructible. Often times they're used to dispose of unexploded ordinances, usually landmines. Basically any ordinance that can fit into the vagina. Some women in the army are assigned to special MOS that's only available for women:
89M Explosive disposal technician.
1 deividasbertasius1 2018-05-12
Kek'ed hard
1 Marcadius_ 2018-05-12
8 the b8
1 __vs__ 2018-05-12
tasted like chicken
1 nejigsk 2018-05-12
normcucks still respond unironically to roastie bait in 2018. timeless.
1 lonely_suicidal_cel 2018-05-12
Cucktears BTFO
1 100PERCENTREASONTORE 2018-05-12
I focus on the pain
1 EvilBananaManRD 2018-05-12
The only thing that's real
1 firmiiiiiip 2018-05-12
AND YOU COULD HAVE IT ALL
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-12
MY EMPIRE OF DIRT
1 freshestpr1nce 2018-05-12
Just here waiting for some white knights to come in and try to defend this.
1 Blade22 2018-05-12
Me too.
But I don't think They'll show up the wound is too deep
1 theonetruekike 2018-05-12
I can just imagine them watching it and that self-realization of themselves being the "safe option" hits them like a fucking brick to the face lmao
1 celaway1696 2018-05-12
Say it with me folks.
ALPHA FUCKS, BETA BUCKS
1 __vs__ 2018-05-12
GAMMA CUCKS, DELTA SHRUGS, EPSILON DUCKS, ZETA LUCKS, ETA SUCKS, THETA WEARS UGGS
whats your point, i can do this for the whole greek alphabet
1 celaway1696 2018-05-12
Are you that much of a newfag that you don't know what the point is?
1 __vs__ 2018-05-12
Wow, you are virtually immune to sarcasm
1 theonetruekike 2018-05-12
Femoids truly are dumb creatures, as shown above.
1 imadethistoshitpostt 2018-05-12
WE DIDNT START THE FIRE
1 SadnessMyMiddleName 2018-05-12
It never even started...
1 Sniveling_Cur 2018-05-12
very low iq post
1 sydneycel 2018-05-12
And numale cucks!
1 Hoeasss 2018-05-12
And cucktears sucks!
1 supakomanija 2018-05-12
tell me something I don't know
1 EvilBananaManRD 2018-05-12
I'm not becoming anyone's beta bucks I'm marrying a young virgin and that's it screw it
1 manicracer 2018-05-12
Oh noes, women are allowed to fuck who they want and they won't touch my peepee!
1 firmiiiiiip 2018-05-12
Women are allowed to fuck who they want and touch whoever's peepee they want, just as men are free to judge the however we want and call them whatever we want.
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-12
No men aren’t allowed to. The same way white people aren’t allowed to be racist to black people in public.
1 xxgtxy 2018-05-12
You are literally posting in a thread where men are criticizing the behavior of women. How again is this "not allowed"?
1 ThinPersonality8 2018-05-12
The incel problem can be directly attributed to women like these destroying the dynamic of dating. But u want to live in a world without incels right? You deserve to be fucking mangled.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-12
Normies, care to comment? Nah, the blackpill was too strong on this post.
1 4mags1 2018-05-12
Gradually, I began to hate them.
1 TruthbeTold9999 2018-05-12
It's a fucked up game.. but can you really blame attractive women for doing this? You live once.. now more than ever.. survival isn't even a necessity. Back in the tribal days yes, people needed to have babies to continue the livelihood of the tribe. But now it's 2018.. it doesn't matter overall if you have a baby or not.. strong genes have already been defined. If I was a hot girl.. I'd probably do the same as her. I'd want to get fucking railed all day and night and treated like a princess. I understand women, but I will never respect them. Respecting them is how you get them to use you.
1 braveoperavivaldi 2018-05-12
its fine that shes getting laid as she wishes. She should keep that same level of honesty and avoid the safe guy who'll have to put in more for less.
1 Detoxification- 2018-05-12
Indeed we do hate the game. That's why our ultimate aim for the creation of a monogamous patriarchy.
1 incelinthirty 2018-05-12
One question. If we indeed go back the good ol days, don't you think the lessons about true female nature that we learned in the middle would be lost? Men growing up in a patriarchal society with traditional values and close-knit families would be the biggest beta bluepillers ever. They would never know if how females behave when let loose. There'd be no blackpill and extreme betatude would be encouraged in the society.
1 Detoxification- 2018-05-12
Lessons aren't "lost". You can actually store information indefinitely in the 21st century.
1 harmlessdjango 2018-05-12
Nah man you probably would still be single
1 WarAndGeese 2018-05-12
I think it's the lying about what women want that bothers people. If media says they want someone honest and whatever then people believe it and try to be honest (and/or do it because that's the natural good thing to do). If people were told growing up "you should be a good person but a lot of girls like aggressive guys" then they could grow up and plan accordingly, rather than do what they think is right and be lied to.
In a lot of cases women they did make the rules (not to generalize all of them), people say one thing is attractive and it turns out it's the opposite. A lot of common advice on dating is "do what you're passionate about, follow your life goals, and love will come along the way", and that's bull for a lot of people. Love comes through effort like almost everything else, so if it's ignored as a priority then it often just won't happen.
So attractive women can do that but they shouldn't lie about what they're doing or mislead people into thinking they want something else.
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-12
This. It was the lies that lead me to try, to try improving myself, to try approaching women, to make a fool of myself and throw a lot of time and energy away, to get nothing in the end. All because of lies.
Now I hate lies, and the liars, with every fiber of my being.
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-12
said it like a G
1 Carkudo 2018-05-12
Exploit and hurt people for personal gain! YOLO!
Jeez, just how rotten can you be?
1 082rz 2018-05-12
CONFIDENT LOOKING TEEHEEE.
life is a fucking joke.
1 SoonelyDoodely 2018-05-12
She had an itch to simply say good-looking but didn't want to appear too shallow. So sufficed with a synonym instead, indeed as always, confident = handsome and nothing else.
1 082rz 2018-05-12
High IQ prose.
1 not_good_looking 2018-05-12
Inceltears: what would incels know about women when they’ve never dated women?
Then this chick appears.
Lol the blackpills write themselves
1 themostbeta 2018-05-12
Its over boyos
1 EmperorXeno 2018-05-12
Same goes with women. I wanna smash a thot and marry a decent chick.
1 braveoperavivaldi 2018-05-12
The woman a man marries is undeniably his true first choice. so much so that hes putting everything on the line for her & is willing to go further than he has with any other woman.
The man a woman marries is almost never her true first choice. I'd go full in depth but i dont have all day. Visit deadbedrooms + adultery + relationships. look at all the examples of wives simply being unattracted to their husbands. They cant land the guy they got with at 19 for the long term. Thats when they settle. this isnt the same at all.
1 trevmon 2018-05-12
i doubt it's always a man's first choice, i mean it's who he settles for, his first choice would be 10/10 model know what i mena
1 imadethistoshitpostt 2018-05-12
Sure. But men will never get to consistently and effortlessly fuck women out of their league.
1 trevmon 2018-05-12
ya just saying, that's what first choice means
1 braveoperavivaldi 2018-05-12
typically the woman you marry is the best you could do. the man women marry isnt the best in their eyes at least not when compared to their short lived fling with an ex who was 2+ points higher than she was
1 trevmon 2018-05-12
is there an echo in here
1 EmperorXeno 2018-05-12
A 10 who cooks and cleans.
1 Inc33333l 2018-05-12
That "decent chick" was probably a thot in her 20s too LOL. She'll put on a new mask to make it seem like she's not like that anymore. And men everywhere fall for it.
1 XenoditReborn 2018-05-12
good luck finding a virgin decent chick who is over 15 years old
1 ingloriousnutsack 2018-05-12
you know how dating apps make you check a bunch of boxes making sure you aren't some creep. instead those apps should play this blackpill for male users beforehand.
1 Currycell92 2018-05-12
Femoid dual mating strategy. Alpha fux, beta bux. It is over boyo.
1 TraditionalParty 2018-05-12
That sad part is this is 100% doable for her
1 sydneycel 2018-05-12
Unless she is the victim of an unfortunate acid attack ;)
1 AyeThatsAGoodNagger 2018-05-12
keep looking whore
1 trevmon 2018-05-12
i wonder if cucktears posters see this and are thinking "dammit girl stop saying the truth we don't want this getting out"
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-12
simple: beta buxx starts pumping and dumping them too
1 DaiMiVsi4ko 2018-05-12
Doesnt work. There are way too many betas still
1 Other_Method 2018-05-12
Nice find!
1 latosk1 2018-05-12
Straight from the horse's mouth of alpha fucks and beta bucks
If women are still denying this
1 changeIsTheWay 2018-05-12
This small clip is another big example of the black pill.
1 acoverover1 2018-05-12
>like later on in life though
>already 8 years past her prime
1 incelery33333 2018-05-12
Jesus christ. Nothing new though.
1 EmperorofEarf 2018-05-12
Hah this is why I’m glad to have both looks and money. I snared em early.
1 Zyklon_Bae 2018-05-12
She looks 30.
1 SoonelyDoodely 2018-05-12
When she's 30 looking like 46 with 2 children there will still be dozens of betabuxs to pick from.. JFL @ this earth.
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-12
This..isn't anything new.
Guys do it to girls too. You got chicks who are definitely fun to party with, fuck with, etc but they aren't wife material and it's obvious.
1 braveoperavivaldi 2018-05-12
you just gave yourself away. when youre a man you treat women who are wife material better than the party girls. women treat the party men better than their husbands. party girl -> wife material is a trade up for men. party guy (the sort of person this sub refers to as chad) -> husband is settling for women.
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-12
Because generalized statements can never be askewed based on opinion, right?
Sure it's done in practice, but it doesn't mean it's universally law either. Men and women can both be shitty to each other and use each other. There's also no standard that says that every woman cheats on her husband, or every husband is cucked, etc. It's such a baseless accusation but I do find it entertaining.
Cherry picking examples to support the idea is also really silly when you consider the vast, vast amount of marriages all over the world that dont fall into those ideas.
Also, gave myself away how?
1 YouAreWrongKid 2018-05-12
Sorry skank, later on in life guys know you are used up trash and noone wants you. Fuck off.
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-12
Wishful thinking. Cucks will take her right up.
1 geneticwaste43 2018-05-12
3/10 no makeup. Looks frumpy as fuck too. Destroys chad cock daily though. No pussy for incels
1 yocontraelmundo 2018-05-12
I despise femoids so shallow and vapid. Fuck them. They are utterly worthless.
1 sydneycel 2018-05-12
Australian roasties really are the worst on earth.
1 iwakan 2018-05-12
What's the problem with this?
1 AprilYi20 2018-05-12
19? She looking fucking 30, jesus women look so old
1 xtsv 2018-05-12
The cock carousel and years of binge drinking accelerate aging.
1 SoonelyDoodely 2018-05-12
Caking fake-up daily ruins skin and makes it age too
1 xtsv 2018-05-12
Yeah, I heard that make-up dries your skin making wrinkles appear faster.
1 Who_watches 2018-05-12
I still would tbh
1 shockinghillaryquote 2018-05-12
Tehehehe
1 ibtem 2018-05-12
I've now watched a couple of his YouTube videos and honestly, the thing that strikes me the most is how women dont seem to view men as human at all. One of the girls even let something slip like "well obviously men have feelings too I guess". Women seem to be much more psychopathic and practical in their lives, they do not for one second believe in the whole romance crap unless the guy is an alpha. Then suddenly the romance movies and feelings all come out. This isn't necessarily a bad trait, it's only bad in a society that gives women freedom. I remember a statistic for the US in the 1960s where women were asked if they need to marry for love or not and the vast majority, like 75%, said no. So women are designed to suck it up and if we allow them to just keep playing their psychopathic nature against us and society, literally everybody suffers as a result.
1 yuyuyuyuu 2018-05-12
Indian arranged marriages are very happy on average, and the couple hasn't even seen each other beforehand. The divorce rates are also lower.
1 WahmenMustDIe 2018-05-12
The Mask Has Fallen 🎭
1 xtsv 2018-05-12
Friendly reminder all women think like this.
1 RPGcel 2018-05-12
kudos for being honest
99% of females are like this and 1% admits it
1 futmut 2018-05-12
LAAAATER on...which gets further away year by year...Now roasties can settle at 50 yrs old with random betabux numales which would help her raise few bastard children from different Chads...Life cant get any better then this for roasties...
1 Hoeasss 2018-05-12
The most brutal of black pills, I need the rope now
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-12
Here, but I'll warn you. He has a lot of these videos and they are pure sui fuel. I can't watch them.
1 theonetruekike 2018-05-12
Femoids truly are dumb creatures, as shown above.
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-05-12
This. It was the lies that lead me to try, to try improving myself, to try approaching women, to make a fool of myself and throw a lot of time and energy away, to get nothing in the end. All because of lies.
Now I hate lies, and the liars, with every fiber of my being.
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-12
said it like a G
1 gufestus2 2018-05-12
Nah. I know of Islam from the very reliable source of living in a country with a very big Islamic population.