I agree with what you said but dude you should have looked a bit longer on here to see that you shouldn't have said y'all

Just say "you guys" you had an okayish thing going until you y'alled

Learn to suppress that side of you when posting online.

Why are you getting downvoted? I laughed

Ayyy howdy THERESS PATNER YALL NEED TO TAKE THE HAY OUT 🤠

They're "not so bad" but shit on people for using a common phrase. Not racist? Have you seen many top images on this sub? They're obsessed with black dudes.

Y'all motherfuckers need Jesus.

'They're' not the actions of a few attention seeking dicks with bad views. The more genuine conversations with guys that are normal people you have the more youll see that. I experience a lot of hate sometimes on this sub and even i understand that not every guy is the same.

It's been about 75% toxic interactions when I try genuinely discussing things with anyone here.

I've had more positive than negative. But am posting less because even most of the positive ones allude to not wanting women or "normal" people in the sub.

Exactly what I'm seeing too. They want to wallow in the destructive, black hole of self pity they've created.

🤠 this is a friendly howdy because you don’t seem too bad

Some of us are contractioncels

There's an ongoing joke here about people who use "y'all" and contractions like that. People in this place use that usually for satire or sarcasm.

"If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."

We are what circumstances make of us. Their life is too dark for them to be "not dark" people. Life is strange. For some, it is heaven, for some it is hell, and for most it is somewhere inbetween.

For most of these people, life is very close to hell if not just right in the middle of it. They live only the "hell" side of life. I mean of course they know the world can be heaven for some people. But not for them. They see it but they don't get to enjoy it. They only get to suffer, and the only reason for that is they are just unlucky. That is the blackest of the blackpills. Every single fucking thing about a humans life depends on pure chance. It's all random.

So I understand man. Fucked up lives create fucked up people.

Life can be 10% what happens to you and 90% how you choose to react to it if you want it to be. None of you seem to want that.

This echo chamber of self pity has convinced many of you that absolutely nothing is *your** fault*, and that your current suffering is the result of circumstances beyond your control. Some of it is, perhaps. The majority of it absolutely is not.

I don't think "free will" exists. What makes me, me? Besides genetics and the environmental factors? Well, nothing. Of course you make the choices in your life, but have you ever thought about "you"? What makes you, "you"? Do you have control over you? Can something be caused by itself?

I did not choose to be I. You are just your genetics and its reaction to environmental factors. It's just physics actually. Think about action-reaction, causality. I'm sure you will understand.

I totally understand what you're trying to say. However, I feel you're using science that you don't fully understand to rationalize your behavior. Hell, Bostrom could be right and we're both in "The Sims 42" right now. Would even that reality make negativity and bitter indignation a logical solution to the problems you perceive?

I don't need to know everything there is to science to make a scientific statement. I think I understand science and philosophy well enough to say that there is no such thing as free will. I have really good reasons to think what I think, but I don't think we have enough reasons to say that we are in "The Sims 42". So there is no reason in defining our thoughts and actions based on that statement.

I didn't say negativity and bitter indignation can be logical solutions to anything. To the opposite, I think they make it harder to solve the problems. They are emotions and instincts anyway, their source is not logic. They are just natural reactions to certain stimulis, and this is what I'm talking about. I'm not saying that common incel behaviour/ mindset is healthy or justified by any means, I'm just saying that I understand.

That sounds reasonable. From what I can see, free will debate aside, people here seem to enjoy wallowing in toxic self-pity. Choice or not, it's become a feedback loop of hatred, used to solidify a deep-seated confirmation bias.

Sad

What's your take on compatibilism?

It is nothing but a universal cope, a global circlejerk. Compatibilisim have zero argument against hard determinism. It's just rhetorics and demagogy. It's a tool for society to function without guilt.

We are too advanced in fields I've mentioned above to believe in free will.

Do you think people can be held morally responsible in a determinist world?

In my opinion, they can and they should. But that is just my opinion. It is based on my own intuitions which is shaped by my genetics and environmental factors I was and am in. And I believe that is exactly what humanity needs to understand. We need to understand that "morality" is just an intuitive concept. It's just one of the evolutionary inheritances that helped throught the evolutionary process to keep us alive. Only then, we can sit and create our moral doctrine together by talking, giving our opinions, and discussing as civilized humans.

But shit like religion fuck it up. People think like there is absolute rights or wrongs. Whatever their primal senses, intuitions, or gods say, must be absolute truth. People are self righteous as fuck. They are too attached to these shits. They won't even listen to or think what others have to say.

This is one of the biggest mistakes people do when they read about incels, or even criminals. They don't try to understand. They don't try to solve the problems. They only want to cum their morals and negative emotions in peoples face.

What I'm saying is, I think our best course would be to sincerely talk about these together.

But if no one has free will, why should they be accountable for their actions? They have no control over what happens, no one does. Can you be upset at someone for doing something bad, when the decision was made for them when they were born? Like being mad at a kettle for being black, when it was created to be black. So how can anyone be upset about anything that happens, when everything that happens is out of anyone’s control?

But if no one has free will, why should they be accountable for their actions?

To protect the society.

They have no control over what happens, no one does.

No, they have control over their actions. People have will, but it's not "free will".

Can you be upset at someone for doing something bad, when the decision was made for them when they were born?

We don't punish crime because we find crime morally wrong, we punish crime to protect society from harm.

Like being mad at a kettle for being black, when it was created to be black. So how can anyone be upset about anything that happens, when everything that happens is out of anyone’s control?

Again, being mad is one thing, punishing harmful behaviour is another thing.

Let me give you an example from my own life. If someone disrespects me, I am not going to be mad at them. I am not going to develop any negative or positive emotions about the situation. I am just going to do what is necessary to protect myself from future harm and punish the person because of his harmful behaviour. You don't have to be emotional to punish people.

Funny how it only works in one direction. People have no choice, so why do you think that being upset at someone for doing something bad is a choice? or that punishing them is?

If you really understood that, you should be okay with the consequences- though perhaps you don't have a choice but to argue against them.

lol the endless expansion of this philosophical concept, is that it has no bearing on how anyone or anything acts. I don't really understand what the difference between free will and will is, so maybe that's a nuance where responsibility fits into determinism, but outside of that distinction, there is no responsibility to be good, cause you either will or will not depending on whatever atoms are doing at the time.

I'm not trying to say he shouldn't be mad at people or whatever, all i'm saying is that if you actually believe there is no such thing as free will, then lending any accountability to anything is weird. Ya, he can't help saying it's for the better of society to act the way he suggests, and I can't help but respond the way I did, and you can't help but respond the way you did, and I can't help but respond back to you the way I do, and so on, and so on, and so on. Holding anyone accountable in a universe without free will is weird, but I don't think it impacts anyone's actions or emotions or whatever, which is why it's weird to use it in any sort of argument on morals or ethics. But carry on lol.

Completely agree.

Ah you're determinist. Cool.

Every single fucking thing about a humans life depends on pure chance. It's all random.

You can choose to look both ways before crossing a street, or close your eyes and take your chances.

Holy shit bru, i've been thinking this for so long but I was just never able to put it into writing. Thanks!

I gotchu homie

Howdy 🤠 🐄

LOLOLOLOLOLL

man this sub is lifefuel. so well cultured and rich in substance.

i declare braincels right now to be the host of a new incel golden age. this is when we get banned soon.

whats the point of this post we know this

the subreddit niceguys is a bunch of cucks giving females free reign and excuses for choosing assholes. You are a cuck for even thinking that nice guys is a thing

See what happens when you try and be nice to these rejects? Take my advice and just pile scorn on these losers. They actually like it. How disgusting.

See what happens when you try and be nice to these rejects?

But I thought all persons are not Y because one person is X.

Have a permanban for multiple accounts of accusatory comments.

Bye.

fucking lol

You're a biggest loser. A real sane person would just ignore and move on.

Nice guys are a fucking reality. Have you not taken a look at your own sub here, chief?

It’s cucks like you giving females a free pass

Reeeeee

I'm a sexist and a racist.

well thats not good...lol..fuck is this sub

HOWDY PARTNER! LET'S GO FUCK OUR SISTERS AND COUSINS. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWW

Same shit.

To-may-to, to-mah-to.

and you wonder why you're alone

Yeah, because of a cheap retort. That's why he is alone, 100 percent.

calm down lmao

And that's why people make assumptions about you incels Being the assholes of society. Congrats, you ruined an empathy post from someone on the outside sympathizing with your sad life.

It's a joke. Don't get your knickers in a twist over it. There are other comments supporting him.

/u/yungcashboi you know that I was just joking? I hope you didn't take it seriously.

I still roll my eyes when people don't take into account the restricted depth of communication through text, especially when the person doesnt know you or your mannerism.

I still roll my eyes when people take everything they read online seriously. Especially on a sub like this where we meme all the time.

whatever makes you sleep at night bro. lol

Ty now can you post this on inceltears about us

You always do what this guy did and create an alt account so you can post it yourself.

Sure, buddy.

The lookspill (the pill we take when we come to the realization that looks matter as most of us were mislead by PUA literature) sucks, for sure. Perhaps the situation isn't as bleak as I made it out to be, though.

joined reddit 2 hours ago

The normie means well. Have faith.

Cope

Spend at least two days here and you might "roflcopterbbq"

You need to understand that you become a hateful person by bad experiences. My heart is filled with hate cause society hates me.

Well you described it perfectly. I wish all invaders could see it by themselves but they choose to blindly hate this community and

the main problems are the "Alpha BlackPilled" cunts, they have the loudest voices so many people think theyre the entirety if the incels, mostly because all the others are too meek to speak up and voice their opinions. also, yall arent terrorists, you just practically worship muderers but e h , so does christianity so its all cool

so does christianity so its all cool

wat

the christian God has killed more people than hes saved so its basically worshipping a killer, like ER or whomever tf

You don't get it.

It's not your world, it's God's world.

You just live in it. And they'll say something like he saved more people and created you anyway so..

applying a logical standpoint he created all sorts of bad shit if hes the creater of all life.

he would have created The Black Death, Influenza, Cholera, Ebola, HIV/AIDS, etc.

thats not even including when God just said, "Fuck it, im starting over" and just flooded everything saving only 2 of every animal

needless to say, hes killed more people than hes "created".

P.S. Lucifer was sent to hell for killing a handfull of people. by that standpoint God should be there too.

Why is this downvoted? He is correct.

She*

People don’t understand that bad experiences produce hateful feelings. We’ve all been kicked around by this world and if you kick a dog everyday it learns to hate you

you guys should voice your stuff on inceltears :<

Now I understand this community more thanks

They don’t listen

I wish they will

Yea, they could learn a lot.

believes in the "nice guys" lie

out

"Y'AaLLLLLLLLLL" 🤠

What is it with you virtue signalling attention whores? Nobody cares what you think of us Whether you hate us and think we're the worst or you're "okay" with us existing so much that you feel the need to post about it so we can all feel better for having your approval.

And this attitude is why you do not have a girlfriend.

How banal and unorignal. It's no wonder Daniel blocked you. You're boring as shit.

Have you looked round this subreddit?

The top post right now is about how women actually love their rapists, and the thread is filled with plenty of (heavily upvoted) rape apologia. But good comprehension

I have tons of female friends

Get out.

Nice try, but when everyone can see that your account is 12 hours old, there's really no point in trying to hide your alt.

Sure, buddy.

Welcome aboard :). Stick around.

Just sad guys that want a gf.

Get out.

We just wish women would stop acting like women.

Incels shoot too high, they think they can get 7-8-9-10/10 women.

Well, i dunno, i've clocked maybe 3 hours in this, and the satire subreddit- r/Truefemcels. Thing is, that's actually a satire one. This shit is for real. Why? Oh i dunno, just proof. https://imgur.com/a/1levqkr#M6E03Bo

Spread those albums as much as you can.

You are saying that in a sub where they constantly shame fat women and those they find ugly. Those guys deserve no love nor understanding.

Some of them are, and I have no hate for those guys. Just for the vile scumbacs who want to enslave women, those frequent here as well.

"life of the party wherevever i go

THATS CALLED BEING A CHAD YOU DINGUS

TEEHEE ur soooooo funny

Is that how it goes?

Thank you for understanding us, your pretty much blackpilled but your status lets you enjoy the benefits of not being us. Crazy how if you told your friends they’d crucify you.

To-may-to, to-mah-to.

They're "not so bad" but shit on people for using a common phrase. Not racist? Have you seen many top images on this sub? They're obsessed with black dudes.

Y'all motherfuckers need Jesus.

It is nothing but a universal cope, a global circlejerk. Compatibilisim have zero argument against hard determinism. It's just rhetorics and demagogy. It's a tool for society to function without guilt.

We are too advanced in fields I've mentioned above to believe in free will.

In my opinion, they can and they should. But that is just my opinion. It is based on my own intuitions which is shaped by my genetics and environmental factors I was and am in. And I believe that is exactly what humanity needs to understand. We need to understand that "morality" is just an intuitive concept. It's just one of the evolutionary inheritances that helped throught the evolutionary process to keep us alive. Only then, we can sit and create our moral doctrine together by talking, giving our opinions, and discussing as civilized humans.

But shit like religion fuck it up. People think like there is absolute rights or wrongs. Whatever their primal senses, intuitions, or gods say, must be absolute truth. People are self righteous as fuck. They are too attached to these shits. They won't even listen to or think what others have to say.

This is one of the biggest mistakes people do when they read about incels, or even criminals. They don't try to understand. They don't try to solve the problems. They only want to cum their morals and negative emotions in peoples face.

What I'm saying is, I think our best course would be to sincerely talk about these together.

And this attitude is why you do not have a girlfriend.