I point to an instance of IT users engaging in behaviour that other IT users say does not exist on their sub.
You then waltz into my thread to fingerpoint to this sub about something I've never denied, I just don't care for it since I don't engage in that behavior and I'm not responsible for it. Go away.
Wait wait wait. I think what I said initially is true, I’ve seen recent posts where users said things like that. I’m glad you don’t engage in that behavior though!
I think what I said initially is true, I’ve seen recent posts where users said things like that.
And then they get removed. Still not very relevant to the point that IT is full of shit when they say there's no bullying going on over there, I'd say.
The point I was trying to make with my initial response is that there does seem to be a lot of pro-rape sentiment in this sub (maybe it isn’t stated so explicitly, but from some of the opinions held by users here, it isn’t much of a jump to make). I found it funny someone would complain about being bullied when hateful intentions like those stated above are arguably worse. But I understand your point, now.
The ultimate point I’m trying to make is not that this sub is a harbor for those sentiments. I understand that part of your responsibilities as mod is to ensure comments in support of rape are appropriately dealt with. I only mean to point out the existence of users with such thoughts. It’s a frightening thing to realize how normal it is for some to believe such things.
Lol. Fine then. What exact phrase would you prefer me to use next time? “A significant amount of incels...”? “There are incels who feel...”? I would think it was obvious that I didn’t mean to shift the blame onto a whole group, or I would have said, “all incels...”, just as there are users who said “all women...”.
I can understand why people would dislike incels but what the fuck is their problem with TRP? Its just a bunch of dudes trying to improve themselves, what's the issue ?
If it works for them then good on them. If you believe it to be bullshit then you shouldn't have a problem cos it won't work for them anyway
Why the fuck do people do this? And I don't mean talk shit on the internet; I mean listen to the people who talk shit on the internet.
My buddy has a pretty good general rule: If 2,000 people or more are aware of your presence online, you will receive death threats. And for every one threat you receive, you'll have 10 people talking shit about you between themselves. It's not the person or group nearly as much as it is just internet culture. You're dreaming if you think this ignorant bullshit only happens to you. Democrats, Repubs, women, men, night owls and early birds- it seriously does not matter. As soon as a certain number of people are aware of your existence or opinion about anything, they will throw out the most vile, derogatory, painful and extreme words that they can muster, just because. They're not thinking at all about their words, why should you?
People have always said dumb shit, it's just that we're at a point in our culture and communication that it's harder than ever to ignore them. But trust me it's worth the extra effort.
And please remember this. When they say those words, they're not looking at your face, they're not seeing your life. They are looking at a computer screen. You might feel the words as if they had been said directly to you, that's exactly why online bullying is a very real fucking thing, and have very real symptoms and consequences. But see, that's a one way street. The computer screen adds a level of abstraction that's very different from saying something to someone, face-to-face, and nothing at all like talking to a real group of people in a public place. They're just putting words on a screen.
It's totally, completely, 100% fine to skip all of that bullshit. All you'd be doing is not troubling yourself when someone wielding a cannon of stupidity at all times happens to momentarily point it in your direction. It's random hatred! It has nothing to do with you as a person! The you that's sitting there reading this, drawing air slowly in and out of your lungs. They don't know that person. Why the fuck should you care that they're talking like they do? That ain't your problem.
I can’t tell who’s side your on but this is very true but this is just like the_donald vs another political subreddit when they bicker back and forth on who’s right. The goal here isn’t to highlight that these people here are taking these death threats personally but to say how they say incels should all die but when incels say its shirt that women date up suddenly the incels are the only ones to feel hatred to a group of people. Obviously both viewpoints are flawed because each think the other are just the absolute worst but it’s basically just a never ending cycle of shit talking the other one and each side telling the other side to eat shit and your views are ridiculous
Well yeah exactly, it's a never ending cycle of shit. All I'm saying is your participation is voluntary. Ignoring them really does dissolve their hold over you. And if you are upset in any way over what they're saying, then yeah they have some kind of hold on you.
I disagree. Conflicts resolve by one of the sides winning. As long as they treat this matter with all their slacktivists fervor as a competition, then we should too.
Same with bullies. Ignoring bullies does not make them go away. I learned it the hard way.
Fair enough, but do you really see yourself winning in that matter, on the internet? What's your combat strategy? Right now, you get really mad when you see something like the post above, then post about it here so all your friends so they can get really mad too. And then you guys talk amongst yourselves about how shitty that person is, and somehow eventually this will cause you to win? What's victory even look like? Why can't people be assholes without getting your attention? Wouldn't that be better? Let them squawk to each other over there, you chill here. But people bring that negativity to reinforce what you all already know, which is that some people say shitty things about about people that don't deserve it. I'm not you, but I don't take their opinions seriously at all. Why do you?
So you guys are incels, but that's not all you are, right? No one is just one thing. You're also gamers or sports fans or music fans or writers or craftsmen or programmers or whatever the hell you do for work or joy. You're also white or black or Indian or eskimo or whatever race you are. And then there's your cultural background, your country, city, and state, possibly your religion or your lack of that... See, everyone's 1,000 things. And without much searching at all, you can find people saying they wish you'd die and you're human scum for any one of those other things you are. You should die because you're white or Asian or short or American or a Marvel fan. People on the internet wish death upon all of these things somewhere. But you don't go hunting for them and then make a post those people saying terrible shit about you. You do it about your inceldom, though. All I'm saying is that that's stupid negativity that you don't fuckin need! So just skip it.
Wtf. Why would you white knight roasties, bruh? They made their bed. The helpful chads acknowledge the blackpill and use the Stacys for what they're only good for.
How can you throw around incel as an insult here? I thought this was supposed to be a safe space for incels? It doesn't matter anyway, because I'm not an incel, and please, don't try and act hard, do you realise what sub you're in, Mr. '35yoGeneticTrash'? There's nothing for you to gain from insulting me, because I simply can't take you seriously, so stop trying so hard.
Oh look, it's another fucking braindead, /r/outoftheloop normie (I thought that sub was just to virtue signal and highlight things you want given attention to but you guys really are real). If you don't understand or grasp what incelqueer rhymes with, then I have no hope for you. How fucking lobotomised.
Actually, I just hadn't heard of IncelTears, I try not to associate myself with this "culture", but it is fun to come around every so often and laugh at you guys, I've never understood how you think 'normie' is an insult, I've personally never thought of it like that 'oh no, I'm a normal, functioning human', but I guess you would rather be the pile of genetic trash you are right now (see what I did there ;D).
Tell me though, why do you want to be a part of this community, rather than actually try to better yourself? Genuine question.
How about you see this as a fuel not to keep bein an incel but to stop being one and just concentrate on other thinns. I know it might be hard but the only reason you are suffering so hard is because you sre concentrating way too much on it. Find something else. But you cant be blind to the danger the incel.movement can have.
It shows guys that its okay to follow girls around and scare them, as long aas they only get scared and not harrased. Like really????? Its not a safe or right community. Wake up
I can’t tell who’s side your on but this is very true but this is just like the_donald vs another political subreddit when they bicker back and forth on who’s right. The goal here isn’t to highlight that these people here are taking these death threats personally but to say how they say incels should all die but when incels say its shirt that women date up suddenly the incels are the only ones to feel hatred to a group of people. Obviously both viewpoints are flawed because each think the other are just the absolute worst but it’s basically just a never ending cycle of shit talking the other one and each side telling the other side to eat shit and your views are ridiculous
Lol. Fine then. What exact phrase would you prefer me to use next time? “A significant amount of incels...”? “There are incels who feel...”? I would think it was obvious that I didn’t mean to shift the blame onto a whole group, or I would have said, “all incels...”, just as there are users who said “all women...”.
63 comments
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-11
/u/sharkb8master
Here's another one for the album: https://imgur.com/a/wl1p4lY.
1 sharkb8master 2018-05-11
Added.
https://imgur.com/a/pMsJ9wT
1 isamalamala 2018-05-11
That’s a good album
1 1122334wy 2018-05-11
I wish they would tbh
1 FEDORA-GOD 2018-05-11
I would pay to painlessly cease to exist tbh.
1 Cristi76 2018-05-11
It's legal in Switzerland....
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-11
You are an absolute twat. Fuck off back to IT.
1 Cristi76 2018-05-11
I know I'm a twat, I like being among my equals, that's why I like this subreddit....
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-11
Keep up the rule violations and you can take a permanent break from engaging with the people here if you like :)
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-11
Go fuck yourself.
1 hfttt 2018-05-11
But some of y’all are still down to rape women so... right back atcha?
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-11
I don't do shit, piss off.
1 hfttt 2018-05-11
I didn’t accuse you of anything. If I wanted to, I would have called you out by username. I don’t understand your hostility
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-11
I point to an instance of IT users engaging in behaviour that other IT users say does not exist on their sub.
You then waltz into my thread to fingerpoint to this sub about something I've never denied, I just don't care for it since I don't engage in that behavior and I'm not responsible for it. Go away.
1 hfttt 2018-05-11
Wait wait wait. I think what I said initially is true, I’ve seen recent posts where users said things like that. I’m glad you don’t engage in that behavior though!
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-11
And then they get removed. Still not very relevant to the point that IT is full of shit when they say there's no bullying going on over there, I'd say.
1 hfttt 2018-05-11
The point I was trying to make with my initial response is that there does seem to be a lot of pro-rape sentiment in this sub (maybe it isn’t stated so explicitly, but from some of the opinions held by users here, it isn’t much of a jump to make). I found it funny someone would complain about being bullied when hateful intentions like those stated above are arguably worse. But I understand your point, now.
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-11
And that is why I'm hostile.
1 hfttt 2018-05-11
You disagree?
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-11
I just can't stand users of your variety, the ones who waltz in on an assumption to mock people.
1 hfttt 2018-05-11
What was my assumption?
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-11
That I'm “down to rape women“, given the “right back atcha“ afterwards.
1 hfttt 2018-05-11
Omfg. So this implies that you personally are not down. Great! That’s great! Can you deny that other users in this sub have expressed the contrary?
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-11
I can't. But, like I said earlier, those sentiments are not tolerated on the sub, so that point is moot.
1 hfttt 2018-05-11
The ultimate point I’m trying to make is not that this sub is a harbor for those sentiments. I understand that part of your responsibilities as mod is to ensure comments in support of rape are appropriately dealt with. I only mean to point out the existence of users with such thoughts. It’s a frightening thing to realize how normal it is for some to believe such things.
1 geneticwaste43 2018-05-11
Nah you just said YALL, shifting the blame on to the whole group with zero evidence because thats what you have. Zero evidence.
Typical low iq tactic
1 hfttt 2018-05-11
Lol. Fine then. What exact phrase would you prefer me to use next time? “A significant amount of incels...”? “There are incels who feel...”? I would think it was obvious that I didn’t mean to shift the blame onto a whole group, or I would have said, “all incels...”, just as there are users who said “all women...”.
1 supermentalcel 2018-05-11
p < 0.0001 that you have low iq
1 trevmon 2018-05-11
howdy pardnerrrrr
1 MMDT 2018-05-11
I can understand why people would dislike incels but what the fuck is their problem with TRP? Its just a bunch of dudes trying to improve themselves, what's the issue ?
If it works for them then good on them. If you believe it to be bullshit then you shouldn't have a problem cos it won't work for them anyway
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-05-11
Yes TRP is also guilty of thought crimes. Such will not be tolerated in the world of cucklandia.
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-05-11
What are they gonna do? Throw their switches at us?
1 LooksMatterToWomen 2018-05-11
I found a long-winded article the other day saying incels had a "duty to die". It's not just IT anymore.
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-11
damn you are a good moderator.
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-11
Thank you, I try :)
1 abbie_yoyo 2018-05-11
Why the fuck do people do this? And I don't mean talk shit on the internet; I mean listen to the people who talk shit on the internet.
My buddy has a pretty good general rule: If 2,000 people or more are aware of your presence online, you will receive death threats. And for every one threat you receive, you'll have 10 people talking shit about you between themselves. It's not the person or group nearly as much as it is just internet culture. You're dreaming if you think this ignorant bullshit only happens to you. Democrats, Repubs, women, men, night owls and early birds- it seriously does not matter. As soon as a certain number of people are aware of your existence or opinion about anything, they will throw out the most vile, derogatory, painful and extreme words that they can muster, just because. They're not thinking at all about their words, why should you?
People have always said dumb shit, it's just that we're at a point in our culture and communication that it's harder than ever to ignore them. But trust me it's worth the extra effort.
And please remember this. When they say those words, they're not looking at your face, they're not seeing your life. They are looking at a computer screen. You might feel the words as if they had been said directly to you, that's exactly why online bullying is a very real fucking thing, and have very real symptoms and consequences. But see, that's a one way street. The computer screen adds a level of abstraction that's very different from saying something to someone, face-to-face, and nothing at all like talking to a real group of people in a public place. They're just putting words on a screen.
It's totally, completely, 100% fine to skip all of that bullshit. All you'd be doing is not troubling yourself when someone wielding a cannon of stupidity at all times happens to momentarily point it in your direction. It's random hatred! It has nothing to do with you as a person! The you that's sitting there reading this, drawing air slowly in and out of your lungs. They don't know that person. Why the fuck should you care that they're talking like they do? That ain't your problem.
1 fuckup-nomore 2018-05-11
I can’t tell who’s side your on but this is very true but this is just like the_donald vs another political subreddit when they bicker back and forth on who’s right. The goal here isn’t to highlight that these people here are taking these death threats personally but to say how they say incels should all die but when incels say its shirt that women date up suddenly the incels are the only ones to feel hatred to a group of people. Obviously both viewpoints are flawed because each think the other are just the absolute worst but it’s basically just a never ending cycle of shit talking the other one and each side telling the other side to eat shit and your views are ridiculous
1 abbie_yoyo 2018-05-11
Well yeah exactly, it's a never ending cycle of shit. All I'm saying is your participation is voluntary. Ignoring them really does dissolve their hold over you. And if you are upset in any way over what they're saying, then yeah they have some kind of hold on you.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-11
I disagree. Conflicts resolve by one of the sides winning. As long as they treat this matter with all their slacktivists fervor as a competition, then we should too.
Same with bullies. Ignoring bullies does not make them go away. I learned it the hard way.
1 abbie_yoyo 2018-05-11
Fair enough, but do you really see yourself winning in that matter, on the internet? What's your combat strategy? Right now, you get really mad when you see something like the post above, then post about it here so all your friends so they can get really mad too. And then you guys talk amongst yourselves about how shitty that person is, and somehow eventually this will cause you to win? What's victory even look like? Why can't people be assholes without getting your attention? Wouldn't that be better? Let them squawk to each other over there, you chill here. But people bring that negativity to reinforce what you all already know, which is that some people say shitty things about about people that don't deserve it. I'm not you, but I don't take their opinions seriously at all. Why do you?
So you guys are incels, but that's not all you are, right? No one is just one thing. You're also gamers or sports fans or music fans or writers or craftsmen or programmers or whatever the hell you do for work or joy. You're also white or black or Indian or eskimo or whatever race you are. And then there's your cultural background, your country, city, and state, possibly your religion or your lack of that... See, everyone's 1,000 things. And without much searching at all, you can find people saying they wish you'd die and you're human scum for any one of those other things you are. You should die because you're white or Asian or short or American or a Marvel fan. People on the internet wish death upon all of these things somewhere. But you don't go hunting for them and then make a post those people saying terrible shit about you. You do it about your inceldom, though. All I'm saying is that that's stupid negativity that you don't fuckin need! So just skip it.
1 auto-warmbeer 2018-05-11
The problem isn't that some people hate incels, it's that basically no one doesn't hate incels.
1 geneticwaste43 2018-05-11
Who cares what a bunch of fat pigs on reddit think.
1 bhavv 2018-05-11
Oh no! The sheet misogeny of wanting to save roasties from toxic chads!
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-11
Wtf. Why would you white knight roasties, bruh? They made their bed. The helpful chads acknowledge the blackpill and use the Stacys for what they're only good for.
1 bhavv 2018-05-11
I wasn't, I was defending our point as not being as misogynist as toxic chads.
1 trevmon 2018-05-11
genocidaltears
1 BlackDranzerAttack 2018-05-11
I'd love for one of these soyfags to come @ me
I'd pull out the swiss and watch them beg for mercy.
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-11
Guys, use this as lifefuel. Your mere existence triggers them to the point of causing them headaches. That's some awesome power to wield.
1 Grits- 2018-05-11
Your reason to live is to cause others pain?
Pretty sad life.
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-11
Said the incelqueer whose life revolves around documenting and commenting on what big meanies we are. Very sad.
If a headache is pain to you, you don't know the meaning of the word. You sheltered piece of shit.
1 Grits- 2018-05-11
How can you throw around incel as an insult here? I thought this was supposed to be a safe space for incels? It doesn't matter anyway, because I'm not an incel, and please, don't try and act hard, do you realise what sub you're in, Mr. '35yoGeneticTrash'? There's nothing for you to gain from insulting me, because I simply can't take you seriously, so stop trying so hard.
1 the_left_is_stupid 2018-05-11
He was calling you an “IncelTears user” as an insult.
1 Grits- 2018-05-11
Ah, that explains it, never heard of IncelTears.
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-11
Oh look, it's another fucking braindead, /r/outoftheloop normie (I thought that sub was just to virtue signal and highlight things you want given attention to but you guys really are real). If you don't understand or grasp what incelqueer rhymes with, then I have no hope for you. How fucking lobotomised.
1 Grits- 2018-05-11
Actually, I just hadn't heard of IncelTears, I try not to associate myself with this "culture", but it is fun to come around every so often and laugh at you guys, I've never understood how you think 'normie' is an insult, I've personally never thought of it like that 'oh no, I'm a normal, functioning human', but I guess you would rather be the pile of genetic trash you are right now (see what I did there ;D).
Tell me though, why do you want to be a part of this community, rather than actually try to better yourself? Genuine question.
1 krapan97 2018-05-11
it reminds me of the darkest hours of our history
1 Jhhhhhk 2018-05-11
well hey, your existence alone challenges this person's beliefs. that's something to feel good about right
1 The_Absolute_Madman 2018-05-11
i wish i was wiped from the earth too
1 captvic 2018-05-11
Exactly I wish someone would come shoot me Im ready to die
1 help_throwaway96 2018-05-11
incels are like the jedi, at some point they are going to be wiped out by the empire(IT)
1 bengalsturntup5532 2018-05-11
They are very good people
1 reanimatedjimjones 2018-05-11
don't like the hate? You can thank people like
this
1 VonMagnar 2018-05-11
And I am responsible for a type of behavior I don't engage in... how?
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-11
ForeverAlone was barely hateful and it still got shit on relentlessly by clowns like you. Fuck off and shut up.
1 jjthehorse 2018-05-11
How about you see this as a fuel not to keep bein an incel but to stop being one and just concentrate on other thinns. I know it might be hard but the only reason you are suffering so hard is because you sre concentrating way too much on it. Find something else. But you cant be blind to the danger the incel.movement can have. It shows guys that its okay to follow girls around and scare them, as long aas they only get scared and not harrased. Like really????? Its not a safe or right community. Wake up
1 fuckup-nomore 2018-05-11
I can’t tell who’s side your on but this is very true but this is just like the_donald vs another political subreddit when they bicker back and forth on who’s right. The goal here isn’t to highlight that these people here are taking these death threats personally but to say how they say incels should all die but when incels say its shirt that women date up suddenly the incels are the only ones to feel hatred to a group of people. Obviously both viewpoints are flawed because each think the other are just the absolute worst but it’s basically just a never ending cycle of shit talking the other one and each side telling the other side to eat shit and your views are ridiculous
1 hfttt 2018-05-11
Lol. Fine then. What exact phrase would you prefer me to use next time? “A significant amount of incels...”? “There are incels who feel...”? I would think it was obvious that I didn’t mean to shift the blame onto a whole group, or I would have said, “all incels...”, just as there are users who said “all women...”.
1 hfttt 2018-05-11
Omfg. So this implies that you personally are not down. Great! That’s great! Can you deny that other users in this sub have expressed the contrary?
1 auto-warmbeer 2018-05-11
The problem isn't that some people hate incels, it's that basically no one doesn't hate incels.