YOU KNOW WHO ELSE HAS TO TRY?

MY MOM.

true. thats why "game" and "pua" is cope. you cant make a girl attracted to you. its already a done deal she will like you or hate you within 2 seconds of looking at you.

Not that it applies to this sub, but if you’re ok looking and you try you can get you a random fuck here and there with some decent looking girls. Especially if it’s at a bar and you’ve both had a couple drinks (no femoids, I’m not suggesting to the point where she’s literally incoherent).

PUA is fucking stupid though. Most of that stuff will only work on girls with literally no self-esteem who are probably a little crazy.

Incoherent lol

Eh.. it's pretty much true. But there have been girls I've met who I didn't find attractive enough to be interested in at all who over time I found things hot about them. I'm going to assume it can work the same for women. If your telling me a 5'8 manning up and turning a 6'0 guy to a betamale casually at a party wouldn't at least change a girls opinion of the guy, you are kidding yourself.

Initial attraction is definitely the MOST important factor of all time but at least for me certain things can change someones attraction level for me.

Attraction can change but it's rarely done by women.

I disagree, I don't think it's all or nothing. I think there's women who can see you as a potential without being head over heels for you, especially in the beginning part.

True. Although if every time you hang out with her, she brings other friends, she’s definitely not romantically interested.

They are heads over heels for Chad though

True

If you have to approach, it's already over.

This is 100% true. For the longest time I thought I was doing something wrong or just a pussy who was afraid to make a move, until I saw how females acted around a couple of my Chad friends. It's literally night and day.

Haha exactly like me. Friend used to show me his whatsapp/fb messages with girls and I couldn't believe how pushy they were and how they initiated everything and how direct they could be. Nothing he did was special it's just that he had an extremely good looking face.

I never understood why that didn't happen to me.. boy was I naive

I befriended a Finnish foreign exchange Chad in high school that was a year younger than me. He go more attention from females in my grade in his first two weeks in the states than I had ever gotten in my entire life. Females he literally had never met were blowing up his phone. Gettin texts from random girls asking for his number was Suifuel™️ lol

Can confirm currently is happening w/me and I’ve been on the other side giving too much affection basically becoming a beta orbiter because of it, also red pill is a bunch of shit other than not breaking “frame” you can’t suffocate the girl just because she’s really interested in you and wants to talk to you all the time. Black pill is the only pill you’ve got to remember in life.

I basically ceased contact with all girls tbh. Escorts or porn are my outlet.

It is better for me that way.. there is no dignity in trying to win a fight that's already been decided.

I feel you there ,but I still look.at attractive girls like damn why can't I experience that,it's a fucked up feeling

I cant get first messages on grindr what i do

true as fuck.

yep

This is me and what I've experienced all my life. Sometimes I thought am I supposed to try harder before finding this sub.

I agree.

99% of girls make it easy for Chad, yes, we know that.

But there's a proviso here, in that not all women have ACCESS TO Chad, or are around Chads, or see Chads very often. Even if they do, those Chads may be taken, or not interested in them.

Too often in this sub we discount that women can be insecure and neurotic too, and some just aren't that hot, they're just average.

So, in the course of the Femoids life, they may begin to make some concessions:

1) They realize getting Chad isn't as easy as it is for Stacies around them.

2) Maybe they got Chad once or twice, and he bailed on them, and this left them a little bitter.

3) They start to prioritize OTHER qualities in males, how they dress, personality, etc. to compensate for a lack of Chad action.

I disagree with this sub constantly making blanket assumptions that all women seem to have 24/7 access to Chad when they don't.

Some of these broads are pretty average out there, and as such, Chad has other priorities when Stacies are available. There are also plenty of Blue Pill Chads who stay faithful to Stacy and get locked up in monogamy, limiting their exposure as well.

My point is simply that there are some women out there who are single and looking, realize Chad isn't as available as they would like, and more open to average guys. They probably won't flirt or behave like they do around Chad, but that does NOT mean they are totally off limits or unavailable either.

True, it doesn't. It's something we have to live with, knowing she'll always want Chad.

Good news: only so many chads in the world, and geographically, some areas have less than others.

3) They start to prioritize OTHER qualities in males, how they dress, personality, etc. to compensate for a lack of Chad action.

one way i cope is fashionmaxxing.

Until Chad decides to steal your girl.

Time for a trip to the rope store

I have received a lot of flirting in my life (looks a few aproacches,and even a declaration from a mild ugly girl)mostly from averages but a few real stacys too but i feel totally identified with the post, how weird is that?

You FEEL identified with this post. Does not mean you ARE. I may FEEL associated with Batman but the reality is me and him aren't gonna save Gotham City.

This is actually pretty solid advice.

Try busting out a bag of coke, and see how fast she gets touchy.

"But muh shit tests!"

Gotta hold frame

I am a good looking guy but have faced a lot of similar struggles as you guys. Don’t know what that’s about?

Its probably a physical horseshoe theory in action. Or you may have social anxiety.

What is a physical horseshoe theory?

I've seen it. I had no idea until Chad came along, and suddenly she was a completely different person. Instead of "I'm not that kind of girl" it was this.

If someone cares about you, they will make time to you.

Apply that to your life so far, and then LDAR.

If you are ugly you can always improve your looks by getting healthier, eating perfectly, exercising more, dressing in way that reflects your personality, carrying yourself in a way that is relaxed and open.

3) They start to prioritize OTHER qualities in males, how they dress, personality, etc. to compensate for a lack of Chad action.

one way i cope is fashionmaxxing.