Yup.

They're pathetic.

They tell us shit like "the world is inherently unfair, youre not entitled to anything, get over it, that's just the way it is!"

I'd be fucking okay with this, if that's what they said

but they say that AND they somehow say shit like "oh it's not over for you, there's someone for everyone, blah, blah" it's a crock of shite lol

I have and I will

People try way too hard to be self aware to avoid looking cringy so they shame others. That in itself is very cringy being an asshole for self promotion

The leftist ideology is supposedly about sticking up for the "little guy". But leftists don't want to stick up for short, virgin ethnic "little guys" if they complain about being unloved.

It's the most blatant example of hypocrisy in the leftist worldview

Everything ends up with eugenics. Right or left don't matter.

If this all was just "complaining about being unloved" I think you guys would get a ton of symapthy, particularly from leftists. I think the stuff that turns people off is all the misogyny and totally contradictory ideas. Just skimming the page today and I see guys who complain about being called ugly which is genuinely sad and awful but then I see twenty memes where the joke is that the woman is ugly. I see wanting physical affection (being touch starved is a real thing) and love but then saying that women who have sex are used up and gross and disgusting.

It's just understandably difficult to be symapthetic to people who hate you to your very core. I think if you guys rebranded you'd have a lot better luck. Share your grievances, vent to each other, but be consistent and be fair. Do you want sex or do you think women who have sex are disgusting? It can't be both. If you don't want to be called ugly and mocked maybe don't call women ugly and mock them. Also, maybe realize that a lot of women go through a similar experience. Women are judged, mocked and rejected based on their looks, we get cheated on, we get our feelings hurt.

I think you guys would be a lot more successful in your endeavors with just a few changes.

It's allot easier to be bitter than introspective. I think that sums up this sub perfectly.

Women are judged, mocked and rejected based on their looks, we get cheated on, we get our feelings hurt.

Just because your highschool crush called you a fatass it doesn't put you on the "incel" position.

People only come here to have hatred fill up the good that sadness sat in before. I think /r/ForeverAlone is more for sad lonely people, though they're too much of a negativity circlejerk for me, for a lot of dudes that don't want the madness and hate of self-proclaimed incels they're a decent bunch.

Leftist policy is all about helping those unfortunate through policy measures. You can give affirmative action to minorities, you can increase opportunities for women, but what can you do for incels?

You can't force people to have sex with anyone. Increasing the availability of prostitution seems like the best thing that can be done for incels.

You can provide them services so they can work through their clear issues of self-worth, identity, masculinity, shame, guilt and the many other psychological issues that are made obvious when viewing this page.

Make it easier for people to sympathize with you by showing some empathy not just for each other but for yourself, instead of defending your ego by shifting the blame on your looks or genetics or whatever opposed to your thoughts, feelings, and behaviors. I dont mean to seem condescending Its just painful to look at the sub and see you guys jerk each other off with misery, hatred, and disgust for yourselves and the world.

You can provide them services so they can work through their clear issues of self-worth, identity, masculinity, shame, guilt and the many other psychological issues that are made obvious when viewing this page.

Wouldn't that be therapy? Which incels say is worthless?

I mean I dont know what they say about it. Im new to this place i just am making some observations

So now that it's mutually agreed that the world is unfair, does that meal you'll stop complaining that women don't find you attractive and that other people are getting laid?

Will Sharpton stop screeching for mo' gib me dats for dem programs?

Will you stop screeching into the uncaring void about how your life sucks like a moody teen just because you're below what would be called average looking?

Not incel. These guys are right about most things though.

Or we could fix it by reimplementing the patriarchy with Sharia.

Well sharia doesn't work for countries except where Islam seems to be the most dominant religion, and the people of America seem to like not living under rhag that blatantly unfair system. I keep seeing posts of incel wanting sharia put into place because it'd make women second class citizens. Also everyone's tax dollars go toward government funded programs , even the ones that aid women, stop acting like only men pay for those kinds of programs.

Women are mega net takers from government. Men are the only ones that are a net positive over their lifetime of taxes paid/benefits received.

I hear this often but I rarely see it. Not saying you're wrong necessarily but that the majority of women I grew up knowing worked and paid taxes like the rest of us. Some did need government aid due to their jobs not paying enough to support their kids, I know my own mother did to afford my medication while she worked as well as my aunt who was also working on her master's while helping raise me. In some cases your statistic might be true but I don't think it's the majority of the gender. And I agree that certain things do in fact need to be gotten rid of, like alimony, and divorce laws need a serious overhaul.

Statistics not anecdotes. Why didn't your mother get married to a responsible man before having you? A lot of women fuck Chads with no thought into whether he can support them/the kids and then require money from non-Chads for 18 years.

I think my mom was trying to do the whole living life as you want in your twenties thing, and unfortunately marrying my father wasn't an option since he wasn't reliable. Because he wasn't cut out to be a parent his rights were severed when he didn't appear in court but I'm positive that he doesn't really care. As for marrying just to habe someone for support, I'm not sure she wanted to jump right into that because she doesn't want to marry someone for a shallow reason like that and it would have been profoundly unfair to the other person. My mom and her sister worked hard to provide for me and I did have a decent life growing up without my dad. I never really wanted for anything essential and they made sure I stayed in school, I'm even in college now studying to be a teacher.

Oh so she didn't want to have to jump right into having a relationship with an ugly guy so decided to get with someone who had no intention of supporting her but made her horny. And was allowed to do so because of government support via majority men's tax money.

What the hell are you on about? I just said she and her sister raised me, the most support we got from the government was insurance. How she was allowed to act when she was younger, as with pretty much everyone, has nothing to do with the government. And again, everyone who works gets taxed, not just men.

When you stop forcing me to pay taxes which go to helping women. It's not my fault you got raped, the world is unfair bruh.

Taxes go toward everyone and we all have to pay them. If there's a problem with that then go off the grid

Taxes go toward everyone

Nothing is being done about our suffering at all. What are you talking about?

If suicide is legalized sure

It is in Canada, you could make a trip there if it's genuinely that important.

No. What you're going to do about it?

Continue calling you out on your nonsense while rolling my eyes so hard st these posts that I see the inside of my eye sockets. Then probably keep linking people to this subreddit and letting them laugh at it

calling you out on

What do you think that'll achieve?

It tends to make people I know laugh when I show them the string of enraged comments attempting to refute my arguments. Makes dinner parties pretty fun when conversations tend to fizzle out

You're actually using Reddit as an ice breaker? The parties you claim to attend must be fucking drab, man.

It's specifically posts like these that make people laugh, and yeah they're dinner parties, typically for work or family events so they're going to he drab

Well, sucks to be there, I guess. I try to usually talk about something interesting and not about how clueless some people might be.

But whatever. That's your personality.

My personality is abrasive and 'not dealing with people's shit', but it's easy to fake being a normal human being for a few hours

If our short interaction is anything to go by, you personality is borong, to be honest.

Hey I'd take being boring over having a victim complex because I think my life is worse than that of the average person

Hey I'd take being boring over having a victim complex because I think my life is worse than that of the average person

Fair enough, I guess. People with victim complexes are very sad people indeed.

Just the ones who insist it's the fault of everyone else

Those are extremely so. Glad to see we're in agreement.

You admit that there are injustices and that the world is unfair towards incels, but your only response to incels being upset by said injustices is to roll your eyes?

In all honesty that's my default response to most people's injustices. I wholeheartedly admit that there's injustices toward plenty of people, even the ones in this subreddit, I just don't agree that all of what tend to fall under that category are actual injustices. Is it fair that you tend to have a harder time in the dating pool? No , but most people tend to at one point in another in life Is it fair that people treat you different because you may be below or well below average looking? Christ no, and ideally it wouldn't happen Are divorce laws, something I see come up here from time to time, typically unfair? Absolutely

You're absolutely well within your right to be upset by what's unfair in life, but life is by default unfair toward just about everyone. My eye rolling is more at the average response toward that unfairness which seems to be a steadily growing hate toward women in general rather than specific ones. It's sort of in the same vein as hating all police officers because a handful are cunts while the majority are trying to do their job .

Patrician post.

Inceltears are the true r/niceguys

No you see oppression theory only applies to women. Incels don't deserve compassion.

yes lmao. women aren't required to act like women, but you most certainly are required to tolerate degeneracy, LGBTQism, cultural marxism, anti-pedoism, etc.

We're telling you you're not entitled to someone else's body. There's a difference.

Oh so she didn't want to have to jump right into having a relationship with an ugly guy so decided to get with someone who had no intention of supporting her but made her horny. And was allowed to do so because of government support via majority men's tax money.

You can provide them services so they can work through their clear issues of self-worth, identity, masculinity, shame, guilt and the many other psychological issues that are made obvious when viewing this page.

Wouldn't that be therapy? Which incels say is worthless?