So this will sound like a dumb question, but why not just tell her you've had sex with lots of women? Surely after watching enough porn you know where to stick it and can fake havin experience.

Women are better at reading body language than men, and they can often tell if you're lying to them.

And if you wind up in bed with one of them, she can really tell that you don't have the sexual experience you claim you had.

I doubt iy. Only if you're awkward, which after a sufficient amount of porn watching you shouldn't be. You've seen thousands of women naked and having sex. You should be able to treat sex like Chad does, like its nothing special, nothing new. Of course, if ypu watched porn sufficiently to that ampunt you probably went volcel already and would not want to pursue sex anyway.

Spoken like a truecel. Saying porn will make you less nervous losing your virginity is like saying Call of Duty will make you nervous firing your first live rounds down the shooting range. CoD doesn't prepare you for gunpowder literally exploding in your face, and porn doesn't prepare you for awkward, messy contact with female genitals.

You're also forgetting the courtship process. You have to escalate to sex. If you're too nervous to escalate, the woman will probably assume you're a virgin.

This is why getting an escort is probably the 20+ year old virgin's best--often only--bet. The courtship process is entirely circumvented, meaning you can focus on learning how actual sex works and getting used to female bodies in three dimensional space. Just don't forget to do your research if you're an Americel. Stings and scams are laughably easy to spot if you know what you're doing, but if you don't, you could be putting yourself in danger.

You're also forgetting the courtship process. You have to escalate to sex. If you're too nervous to escalate, the woman will probably assume you're a virgin.

Just say "hey, want some fuk?" like Chad does.

Saying porn will make you less nervous losing your virginity is like saying Call of Duty will make you less nervous firing your first live rounds down the shooting range.

The nervousness of shooting a gun is from the fear that you will shoot yourself by accident and die. After playing enough Call of Duty, you no longer care if you live or die because life loses all meaning...so I think the analogy does work.

Wow what an awful concept. The one thing you're capable of giving a woman that a "Chad" can't (your devotion and the uniqueness of experience with you) your treating like garbage.

You know your pussy is wet from reading it.

Part of you is still stuck in that bluepill mindset where women are perceived as psychics. Women can’t tell shit I lie to my mom all the time.

And the answer ia dealing with women now days is too dangerous because they think even breathing in their direction is rape.

Hate to break it to you, but its horribly obvious when a man has just watched way WAY too much porn. It is a huge turn-off. Women in porn aren't getting off, its just for the male enjoyment. Men who have had lots of sex understand how to please a woman and how much better it makes sex...

Watching porn will give you the basics of where to stick it, but there's a lot more to it than that. If you can actually find out how it is in the real world, and not porn, you'll find out the difference.

Find someone to go through the whole thing with you, and you should be OK when it comes to it.

If you're a curry, then you're creepy even at 20. Our SMV starts at 0 at birth and rises exponentially in the negative direction. Its over before it even began.

fuck, the deep state keeping us around and shit

Maybe they will experiment on us, to advance medicine, to save the white race. I hope our deaths are quick.

But you guys are the fucking doctors!

Only if you live on a white-dominant country.

Our SMV starts at 0 at birth and rises exponentially in the negative direction. Its over before it even began.

:))))))

Racist!

Are words more racist or are actions more racist? Racism exists because roasties actively practice it against curries. Fact.

No doubt it was a joke lol I made "fact" happen BTW lmao

Honestly, if you already graduated college and girls haven't given you attention, there is something very very WRONG. Normal people make friends and have sex without even trying. What does that say about incels?

I'm with you OP.

It's funny because I've thought of looking back on my regrets back in college and high school now that I'm a wageslave. But I look back and I don't know if I could have done anything different. I dressed nice, I lifted weights, I smiled, I tried to keep a decent attitude, I tried to make small talk, but I still couldn't succeed socially and no one ever really fucked with me. It's not supposed to be that difficult, but for some reason it can be like that for a minority. I can't even believe there are people out there who get multiple invitations to hang out and have to decline them. Amazing!

like that for a minority

I knew it! Nothing we do matters. Its over.

Me too mate. I went to all kinds of parties and finished college as a KV.

Normal people make friends and have sex without even trying.

That's the incel myth that holds you all back. We do try, that's the difference between you and us, you are so afraid of rejection you won't try, no one is going to spontaneous combust into laughter if you try to talk to them, 70% of the stories of rejection you see here are bullshit, saying your face can't get you girls and friends when you know it's the fact that you can't talk to even a pet without freezing scared, is the biggest cope ever.

you are so afraid of rejection you won't try

I don't think you read my post bruh, I talked about how I have always tried my best to be liked. Throughout my high school years and college years I did all the common sense stuff like shower daily, smile a lot, try to take an interest in other people. I even did what cool kids did like smoke or drink or anything at all to connect with someone. BUt it was all in vain I'm lonelier than ever post college, my lifes pathetic. But at least in college I believed I had a chance, once I hit a 9-5, life only got worse. You're wrong about me, you can call me a loser all you want but it is NOT for a lack of trying, I try to connect with others

You do realize there are 30 year old female virgins as well, right? It's not just men.

Incels believe that their celibacy is the result of traits they have no control over, like appearance. There are men who are not 8/10, but guess what, there are also women who are not 8/10. If you're going to assume that your celibacy is the result of being ugly, why would you not think the same thing happens with women?

Women can always get laid. Men have lower standards overall.

"Women can always get laid" Citation needed.

Google pig woman experiment.

I'd prefer an actual experiment.

women can't be incel.

quick example: you know people will literally pay money to have sex with women right? you think anyone would pay to have sex with a man?

Yes. There are male prostitutes. They exist. They are a thing.

The vast majority of their clients are gay men, anyway thats beside the point. A man cannot simply say "selling 1 sex" like a woman can and get laid. Thats why i brought up prostitutes

Women don't say "selling 1 sex" and get laid, either. You think there are men who don't have sex because they're ugly, right? Why don't you think there are ugly women who don't have sex for the same reason?

Because men have lower standards

Men like...you?

No, men in general because of their higher/more aggressive sex drive

Your celibacy must always be someone else's fault...

Not an argument and irrelevant because you have nothing better to say

It's not an argument, but it's very relevant.

This is true but at the same time it also gets easier to bear in my opinion. I will be thirty in a few months myself.

And you haven’t done the sex yet?

LOL! And you just won my favorite comment of the day lol.

It's been over. It's the Incel Effect which is the opposite of Lindy Effect: the less sex you get now, the less likely you are to have sex in the future.

If it ever comes to it just lie to her and say you've fucked many women. There's no way for her to know you're lying.

It's a negative spiral going downwards into negative infinity

If you're average looking and still can't score anything at all then you suck lol, thems the breaks.

I'm a 31 year old virgin and don't want to waste my money on a prostitute. First of all I'd have to drive pretty far to get to a city big enough to have them and I'd have to stay over night. I could be in a sting operation or get someone trafficked.

It's better to just jack off and move on with my day.

fuck why am I reading these black pills in the morning. These ruin my already shitty day.