What does the original image have to do with the one you applied over it? Couldnt yours stand alone?
“Regret is not rape” is a fact, but it doesnt oppose the idea of needing consent before the act..
but it doesnt oppose the idea of needing consent before the act..
Do you agree that you need verbal consent before engaging in sex with a woman? Because I'm pretty sure that's what the original image is saying. I think OP is arguing that women use the consent thing to frame regrettable sex as rape, ie "he never verbally asked if I consent to having sex, so therefore it's rape, now that I'm regretting it the next day."
I think “regret is not rape” is a strong statement in itself, and that the intended significance can be misconstrued when juxtaposed upon the other.
I dont see anything wrong with verifying verbally, but i also think consensual body language is incredibly easy to read.
In the case of “well he never asked verbally, therefore...” if a woman is trying to pull this BS stance, it really makes no difference if the man really asked or not seeing as it is unprovable hearsay without the event having been recorded.
Honestly i couldnt tell you, i never have asked nor have i been asked like that.
I have, on the other hand, made the first move with both males and females and could tell the difference between who was interested/consenting and who was uncomfortable/not consenting, even though they were likely uncomfortable enough they wouldnt have said or done anything to stop my advances had i not picked up on it.
To literally ask someone if you can have sex with them?
Sure. What's the harm?
Make sure it's what she wants; that is literally the most important aspect of being good in bed: caring about the other person's pleasure as much as your own, and being mature enough to communicate about what you want. If she wants to do something else, like make out more, or watch TV together, then do that.
Let's be realistic. When there's passion, both parties are slightly drunk and eager then no one takes a two minute break to ask "Do you want to have sex with me?".
And it shouldn't be just the man's job to ask that question. BOTH parties are responsible.
Make sure it's what she wants; that is literally the most important aspect of being good in bed
It's not like sex just literally happens; you have to instigate it somehow. The instigation is basically checking for consent. If you have a girl over and you've made dinner, you've both been drinking wine, and you're in the couch watching a movie, and she moves in very close to you, are you going to ASK her if you can have sex with her? Fucking ridiculous. And it's equally ridiculous to assume that the opposite of literally asking for consent is to just rape them. You ask them non-verbally; it's the language of love.
I do not see why love can’t also be considerate? I think it’s hot as hell to ask periodically during sex “is that good?” and hear her say “yes”. It also helps to remind HER that 1.) her input is welcomed 2.) you care about her.
Leaving things ambiguous only means things continue to be ambiguous afterwards. Ambiguity is what leads to anxiety and regret. If she’s unable to say that she clearly wants it, she will probably continue to waffle afterwards. DO NOT PROCEED.
I think it’s hot as hell to ask periodically during sex “is that good?” and hear her say “yes”. It also helps to remind HER that 1.) her input is welcomed 2.) you care about her.
You sound annoying as fuck. You really have to ask her if something feels good? You can't just tell if she's enjoying it? Lmao.
As for 1&2 how fucking clingy and insecure are you that you have to make sure to DURING SEX remind her that you're into her? Does she repay you with the same annoying and superfluous courtesy?
You sound like you have zero chemistry with the girls you've allegedly had sex with if you're completely blind to their body language
Do you struggle at multitasking or something? You can use both your eyes and your words. I love conversations. The chicks I date are generally on my social level, so it’s a pretty natural transition to shift from neutral talk, to sexy talk, to talking about how into each other you are. It’s bizarre to me, to think of having sex in complete radio silence. Sex is a highly social sport. Good communication makes it hotter.
It’s a subjective statement. You don’t have to agree, dude.
Whenever someone has to deliberately exaggerate and misconstrue their opponent's point to make their own seem valid, they've already lost.
When did I ever say anything about radio silence during sex? And why do you feel good communication can only mean VERBAL LANGUAGE? It's such a simplistic and boring view on it. Social level and "loving conversations" has nothing to do with it. Why are you asking redundant questions? If the girl is moaning, do you ask her if she's enjoying it? Maybe social level is involved, because you seem socially retarded. Hm, you make a good point.
I don’t think it’s possible to communicate with you in good faith. I literally said you can use more than just words. If you’re not going to even read my posts before insulting what I say I’m gonna call this one a loss. We seem to just live in different worlds.
Do you think consent is unable to be given implicitly through context (the specific situation/surroundings, body language, topic of conversation, flirtation etc.) and can only be given explicitly verbally?
They don't just want verbal consent, they also want enthusiastic consent. Who determines what enthusiastic consent is? Foids of course. Can enthusiasm still be revoked and you're still charged as a rapist? You betcha.
Curious what the context to this was. I am guessing something creepy that advocates rape and abuse because the poster sees women as sex machines you put coins into. But there is a part of me thinking it could be a post about a consensual encounter where someone claimed sexual assault due to regret. But i feel like that has a slim chance of being true.
I met a girl one night out (I don't really go out and drink much) and was stupid enough to try my luck. She didn't seem at all drunk or intoxicated as we were having a pretty fluid conversation. It went well and we started making out, so I invited her back to my place (worse decision of my life). Everything was fine, she was very touchy and such.
We get back to my place, she asks where the bathroom is and she goes there. My room mate gives me a smirk and says "well done Vannaka" (she was like an 7.5-8). I told him I was quite nervous as I had only had sex twice before. He says not to worry and that she seems very into it.
So she gets back, we go to my room. It all goes very well, we are both into it (we even had some oral foreplay). Not a single sign or reason to stop. She was even on top half of the time.
She sleeps over. I wake up and she seems kinda distraught at first. So I ask her what's wrong and she says "I don't do this ever"(I suppose she was referencing to one night stands?). She cleans up and I ask for her number but she says that wouldn't be a good idea. She goes home.
A week later I get called my Uni's board, and they accuse me of sexual harrasment. Now I have been a nervous wreck for the last 6 weeks. I get anonimous facebook messages telling me to confess to being a rapist. I lost most of my friends and no one but my parents and my room mates believe me.
> Why do you think she regrets having sex with you?
I never met her before that night. But I heard a rumor that her friends that went out with her that night teased and taunted her for sleeping with me. I suppose (I can't confirm this for sure) she didn't want to lose face and told her friends it wasn't consensual and played the victim card.
I never met her before that night. But I heard a rumor that her friends that went out with her that night teased and taunted her for sleeping with me (I'm not the most attractive). I suppose (I can't confirm this for sure) she didn't want to lose face and told her friends it wasn't consensual and played the victim card.
But it sounds like she was upset in the morning before her friends even knew she slept with you. What is she saying happened?
> But it sounds like she was upset in the morning before her friends even knew she slept with you.
They saw her go home with me. What did they think she was going back to my place for? Coffee?
Her friends were constantly making passive aggrassive comments towards me that night so I think she realised when she woke up.
> What is she saying happened?
That she was very intoxicated (not true) and passed out on my bed. And that I then had sex with her when she wasn't conscious. Which is NOT true as on of my room mates testified that she was completely coherent when she arrived to our appartment and he heard plenty of noise from our room and us talking afterwards.
The hate is those men projecting their seething rage on to other people.
Also, take it from an old (I'm 34): few people are truly ugly. Most people are average looking, and an average-looking guy with a good personality can do quite well if he gets past his own ego and focuses on the other person.
Was that the context of the original post cause then that would be correct. But I have seen some scary stuff on here so just wanted the original reason for the post before I decided.
She still can.like if a man manipulates a women into letting her sleep with him and it isn’t until after a few days that she realized she have been used. For example if a girl boyfriend broke up with her and she is not in the right mind to consent.
You are a horrible person. Rape can send someone to jail for years. She is a fucking adult who makes her own choices. No one is manipulating her if she agreed to have sex. You can't just decide that someone raped you because there is a bad situation in your life and you're not in the right state of mind. By that logic, I should go rob a bank everytime something bad happens in my life because I am not in the right mind to realize how my actions affect others.
And getting Raped can cause you to have emotional trauma and suffering for years upon years not to mention people not believing you when you say you have been Raped, soo I win.
You can't just decide you were raped because you regret it. Women want equality but can't handle taking responsibility for their own actions. Regret is not rape.
sorry, but part of being equal is being equally accountable for your own actions. if you dont want to sleep around, dont sleep around but you cant just ruin a mans life just so you can lie to yourself and say you're not a slut.
regardless of if you "regret" a sexual encounter and feel that you were "emotionally taken advantage of" after the fact, that doesnt change the fact that you consented to it in the moment.
women need to "man up" in other words and live with the consequences of their actions. :2
That’s not rape. You need to look at consent laws and educate yourself. You are peddling harmful bs. Consent cannot be retroactively rescinded because the person who consented is no longer in the same emotional state as when they did. An emotional state is not a mental incapacity that would cause a judge or jury to doubt your consent was valid when it was obtained.
Imagine the consequences of recognizing "emotional coercion" as a form of rape. People would be guilty of rape for lying about their income, saying I love you without really meaning it (or changing their mind), etc.
Exactly, people who withhold their relationship status would be rapists instead of just lying shitbags. Got to be a troll they cannot genuinely hold that belief.
What you're describing does not meet the legal definition of rape (which is a fairly low bar). There are tons of ways in which one partner can take advantage of another but "emotions" are not criminally protected. Even consent gained by dishonesty is not criminal unless it's accompanied by fraud. If that wasn't the case, there would be valid rape accusations whenever a couple broke up on bad terms. Anytime someone says "i love you", it would be emotional coercion.
That isnt how consent works. If you consent/agree/acknowledge, done deal. Retroactively withdrawing consent for something already in past tense is retarded if you weren't coerced/forced/drugged and unable to comprehend the situation.
Wow holy shit, someone's not in the right mind to make decisions for themselves if a boyfriend or girlfriend broke up with them? That's insane. Women have just as much accountability as men. I really just come on here for curioisity but Christ that is purely nonsensical
You're retarded. Gotta take responsibility for your own actions. If you sleep with a guy and wanted to guess what? You did that. You can't go days later and think "Mm... Was probably raped."
Yo when incels are making more sense than you, you've fucked up.
So what would you recommend men do? If she says yes, you have no way of knowing if she's "in the right mind to consent". Should men do background checks for every girl they want to sleep with to rule out potential traumatic events in her recent past?
Crazy... i wonder whats the best way to protect yourself against this. Record her saying she consented? Having a text saying what happened was consensual?
If I have proof that the crime I am accused of was falsified and they throw that away I would sue them for every fucking penny they have. I would get as many people as possible, online and in person to destroy that court judge. That's bullshit if true
It could probably be used in a police report and would probably affect the charging decision of the prosecutor based on the report. So if you were accused and had video proof of it being a false claim, you probably wouldn't get formally charged in the first place.
Apparently campus footage of her walking back to my place holding my arm and playfully kissing me isn't enough. Apparently drug tests showing that she was not under any date-rape drugs is not enough. My room mates confession also apparently not enough.
What’s the grace period? If the guy keeps on plowing after she revokes consent then obviously it’s rape, but he’s still in there at the moment of revocation and has to pull out. How long can he stay before it’s legally rape?
For real, rape accusations were the nail in the coffin for me. I could probably looksmax and find someone if I had enough money and willpower BUT I don't want the risk of my life getting even worse because of some cunt.
Go scorched earth on the foid. Get creative with it. Happened to me once and I shit that shit down, no one believed her anyway lol. And all that happened was that I lit a candle and put my arm around her. She left, we didn't even kiss lmao. Bitch why did we just grind for an hour dancing to the aqua album? Then cucks wonder why we despise foids lol.
Karma-whore but ironically this will only get like 500 up-votes maximum, which is shit.
Not only the poster is likely an autism-cel who is too afraid to go outside, less hang out something provocative. Then he is also likely a poor-cel who literally cannot afford this kind of shit (even if each flyer is 10 cents then ~50 bucks is not small money for them).
Well, fuck. This sucks and I have no idea how to support you, only to wish you all the best. In regards to the others, this is a lesson - don't stick your dick in crazy.
What's your problem? There have been countless flyers at my uni saying "Don't be that man" in an attempt, and I quote head of the movement, "to decrease rape culture"
Yet when I had purely consensual sex with a girl, and she decided it was a bad decision a week later, it ruines my life and no one gives fuck.
No but there are many fucking social and mental consequences to being accused of sexual harrasment. People never fucking look at you the same way again.
To remind you that it isn't worth it anyway. I may have had sex three times in my life but I was an incel for a very long time. And those 20 minutes are never worth it.
For ultimate shitlordnrss, just post a Shlomo meme. It doesn’t even need text. The one about rape will raise eyebrows, but anything to do with Jews will have the cops involved.
Haven’t read all the comments but I think a man asking a women if she is ok as you’re getting it on is all that needs to be asked. I mean, if I’m getting intimate with a guy and they ask me, “are you ok” that is all that’s needed. It’s a nice thing to ask too. As long as a man isn’t being pushy then everything is ok. I think if a man is being gentlemanly like, such as not being pushy and a woman is clearly into it and seems happy, there’s no harm in asking, are you ok? I actually find it a bit of a turn on. It shows they care and gives a woman the chance to say no if that’s how they feel. Rather than saying, do you consent to me having sex with you? It can be a bit of a turn off. Just don’t be pushy. As long as neither party is being pushy then it’s ok. I would say no if a man was being pushy without them having to ask if I didn’t want to proceed with it. In the past, when I’ve been with men and they check that I’m ok just by asking it’s a nice feeling to know they care about my feelings even when I’m all for it.
All sane women know regret is not rape. All sane men know that being pushy isn’t the right thing to do.
Oh shit. I’m so sorry. What’s the situation? Totally don’t have to answer that if you don’t feel comfortable. But I am guessing, someone has claimed rape?
If we're kissing, and you're kissing me back, and I start grinding on you and you grind back, and we start pawing at each other, and we go down on each other, I'm not going to ask "Are you okay?" before I enter you.
Absolutely it is. I’m not saying to say it then. I’m saying as things are hitting up. Before going down on each other obviously. Having said that, if a guy doesn’t ask if I’m ok I don’t think that’s wrong either. Both people in this scenario were absolutely for it. She didn’t say no. Nothing has been done wrong. You haven’t done anything wrong. Have wrongful accusations been made? You need to fight it and say it for what it is. That you’d never do that. If you have to, or feel the need, say what happened. You are no rapist.
Does anyone even think that it's rape once you regret sex later? If she later regretted the sex, the sexual partner had no way to know he was raping her so it's extremely unfair to lock him up
I'm not sure why you millennials have decided to complicated sex so thoroughly. I've been sexually active for 25 years and have never asked for permission, nor been accused of rape, nor raped. If you don't like or want something then say so -- done this countless times. It's actually very easy and, unlike asking permission (implied or otherwise), doesn't spoil the mood.
Women naturally want to be taken. Those that don't, I stay far away from.
Just a tip, but concentrate the posting of these flyers in areas where mostly MEN hang out, like the STEM courses. Find out where they hold the Computer Science and Engineering courses and focus your efforts there.
It would be cool if you could combine the two messages into one. Like, they're both great messages, so make them both stand hand in hand like a consenting couple who just banged.
I tried to hang up some of the posters in the middle of the night. But apparently someone had seen my post (fuck you whoever you are), found which campus I'm at and tipped off the Uni.
I got some posters up, but the next morning they were instantly removed. At night I was only able to get a hand full of picture with my mobile phone flash and they all look shit.
Do you think consent is unable to be given implicitly through context (the specific situation/surroundings, body language, topic of conversation, flirtation etc.) and can only be given explicitly verbally?
Imagine the consequences of recognizing "emotional coercion" as a form of rape. People would be guilty of rape for lying about their income, saying I love you without really meaning it (or changing their mind), etc.
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1 BRAHMINDEEPSTATE 2018-05-08
Just paste St. Blackops2cel's photo everywhere.
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
It would cost me too much in ink. Otherwise I would do it.
1 BRAHMINDEEPSTATE 2018-05-08
Here you go, brah -
https://i.imgur.com/TTC4ZYK.png
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
If it get more opvotes than the post I will make sure my uni never forgets his face
1 eyewant 2018-05-08
Your uni doesnt fine you if the posters become litter?
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
Of course not
1 eyewant 2018-05-08
Lucky, my uni and Hs would have murdered me for this
1 _neutral_username_ 2018-05-08
Please do not do that. How would you think if your picture was used without your consent?
1 bengalsturntup5532 2018-05-08
Lol hilarious
1 Tha_Crock 2018-05-08
Bad idea op, you'll get kicked out.
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
I won't
1 rompermia 2018-05-08
What does the original image have to do with the one you applied over it? Couldnt yours stand alone? “Regret is not rape” is a fact, but it doesnt oppose the idea of needing consent before the act..
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
I could do that if you guys prefer that. I am open to other images. Just send them to me.
1 LooksMatterToWomen 2018-05-08
Definitely remove the background image. Sends the wrong overall message.
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
Okay I will do that.
1 EBshitbird 2018-05-08
I’m with all these guys, The only message you need is regret is not rape.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-08
I agree, just do the red image.
1 _neutral_username_ 2018-05-08
I think you should leave the red text as it is part of the statement you want to make. Regret does not cancel the consent.
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
Okay I will do that.
1 camouflage365 2018-05-08
Do you agree that you need verbal consent before engaging in sex with a woman? Because I'm pretty sure that's what the original image is saying. I think OP is arguing that women use the consent thing to frame regrettable sex as rape, ie "he never verbally asked if I consent to having sex, so therefore it's rape, now that I'm regretting it the next day."
1 rompermia 2018-05-08
I think “regret is not rape” is a strong statement in itself, and that the intended significance can be misconstrued when juxtaposed upon the other.
I dont see anything wrong with verifying verbally, but i also think consensual body language is incredibly easy to read. In the case of “well he never asked verbally, therefore...” if a woman is trying to pull this BS stance, it really makes no difference if the man really asked or not seeing as it is unprovable hearsay without the event having been recorded.
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
Yes they make me feel like a monster because I didn't ask in a formal manner "Do you consent to having sex?" or "Do you want to have sex with me?".
Who in their right mind in the spur of the moment asks a question like that?
1 rompermia 2018-05-08
Honestly i couldnt tell you, i never have asked nor have i been asked like that. I have, on the other hand, made the first move with both males and females and could tell the difference between who was interested/consenting and who was uncomfortable/not consenting, even though they were likely uncomfortable enough they wouldnt have said or done anything to stop my advances had i not picked up on it.
1 michaelochurch 2018-05-08
That's not a radical feminist demand. That's human decency.
1 camouflage365 2018-05-08
To literally ask someone if you can have sex with them?
1 michaelochurch 2018-05-08
Sure. What's the harm?
Make sure it's what she wants; that is literally the most important aspect of being good in bed: caring about the other person's pleasure as much as your own, and being mature enough to communicate about what you want. If she wants to do something else, like make out more, or watch TV together, then do that.
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
Let's be realistic. When there's passion, both parties are slightly drunk and eager then no one takes a two minute break to ask "Do you want to have sex with me?".
And it shouldn't be just the man's job to ask that question. BOTH parties are responsible.
1 camouflage365 2018-05-08
It's not like sex just literally happens; you have to instigate it somehow. The instigation is basically checking for consent. If you have a girl over and you've made dinner, you've both been drinking wine, and you're in the couch watching a movie, and she moves in very close to you, are you going to ASK her if you can have sex with her? Fucking ridiculous. And it's equally ridiculous to assume that the opposite of literally asking for consent is to just rape them. You ask them non-verbally; it's the language of love.
1 Gravel_Roads 2018-05-08
I do not see why love can’t also be considerate? I think it’s hot as hell to ask periodically during sex “is that good?” and hear her say “yes”. It also helps to remind HER that 1.) her input is welcomed 2.) you care about her.
Leaving things ambiguous only means things continue to be ambiguous afterwards. Ambiguity is what leads to anxiety and regret. If she’s unable to say that she clearly wants it, she will probably continue to waffle afterwards. DO NOT PROCEED.
1 camouflage365 2018-05-08
You sound annoying as fuck. You really have to ask her if something feels good? You can't just tell if she's enjoying it? Lmao.
As for 1&2 how fucking clingy and insecure are you that you have to make sure to DURING SEX remind her that you're into her? Does she repay you with the same annoying and superfluous courtesy?
You sound like you have zero chemistry with the girls you've allegedly had sex with if you're completely blind to their body language
1 Gravel_Roads 2018-05-08
Do you struggle at multitasking or something? You can use both your eyes and your words. I love conversations. The chicks I date are generally on my social level, so it’s a pretty natural transition to shift from neutral talk, to sexy talk, to talking about how into each other you are. It’s bizarre to me, to think of having sex in complete radio silence. Sex is a highly social sport. Good communication makes it hotter.
It’s a subjective statement. You don’t have to agree, dude.
1 camouflage365 2018-05-08
Whenever someone has to deliberately exaggerate and misconstrue their opponent's point to make their own seem valid, they've already lost.
When did I ever say anything about radio silence during sex? And why do you feel good communication can only mean VERBAL LANGUAGE? It's such a simplistic and boring view on it. Social level and "loving conversations" has nothing to do with it. Why are you asking redundant questions? If the girl is moaning, do you ask her if she's enjoying it? Maybe social level is involved, because you seem socially retarded. Hm, you make a good point.
1 Gravel_Roads 2018-05-08
I don’t think it’s possible to communicate with you in good faith. I literally said you can use more than just words. If you’re not going to even read my posts before insulting what I say I’m gonna call this one a loss. We seem to just live in different worlds.
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-05-08
Do you think consent is unable to be given implicitly through context (the specific situation/surroundings, body language, topic of conversation, flirtation etc.) and can only be given explicitly verbally?
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-08
They don't just want verbal consent, they also want enthusiastic consent. Who determines what enthusiastic consent is? Foids of course. Can enthusiasm still be revoked and you're still charged as a rapist? You betcha.
1 fukworld_2 2018-05-08
Post pictures
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
I will
1 Matthew15651 2018-05-08
As Board_Gaming always says,
Rape now
1 Petedapug 2018-05-08
Curious what the context to this was. I am guessing something creepy that advocates rape and abuse because the poster sees women as sex machines you put coins into. But there is a part of me thinking it could be a post about a consensual encounter where someone claimed sexual assault due to regret. But i feel like that has a slim chance of being true.
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
I see it quite frankly: if you consented to sex, regret cannot change that.
1 MRAGGGAN 2018-05-08
While I agree with that,
Do you agree that if a woman or man says no/stop/I don’t want this at any point during the deed, at that point, it does become rape?
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
Yes. If she tells you to get off, you get off.
1 super_common_name 2018-05-08
What happened exactly? Why do you think she regrets having sex with you?
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
> What happened exactly?
I met a girl one night out (I don't really go out and drink much) and was stupid enough to try my luck. She didn't seem at all drunk or intoxicated as we were having a pretty fluid conversation. It went well and we started making out, so I invited her back to my place (worse decision of my life). Everything was fine, she was very touchy and such.
We get back to my place, she asks where the bathroom is and she goes there. My room mate gives me a smirk and says "well done Vannaka" (she was like an 7.5-8). I told him I was quite nervous as I had only had sex twice before. He says not to worry and that she seems very into it.
So she gets back, we go to my room. It all goes very well, we are both into it (we even had some oral foreplay). Not a single sign or reason to stop. She was even on top half of the time.
She sleeps over. I wake up and she seems kinda distraught at first. So I ask her what's wrong and she says "I don't do this ever"(I suppose she was referencing to one night stands?). She cleans up and I ask for her number but she says that wouldn't be a good idea. She goes home.
A week later I get called my Uni's board, and they accuse me of sexual harrasment. Now I have been a nervous wreck for the last 6 weeks. I get anonimous facebook messages telling me to confess to being a rapist. I lost most of my friends and no one but my parents and my room mates believe me.
> Why do you think she regrets having sex with you?
I never met her before that night. But I heard a rumor that her friends that went out with her that night teased and taunted her for sleeping with me. I suppose (I can't confirm this for sure) she didn't want to lose face and told her friends it wasn't consensual and played the victim card.
1 super_common_name 2018-05-08
But it sounds like she was upset in the morning before her friends even knew she slept with you. What is she saying happened?
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
> But it sounds like she was upset in the morning before her friends even knew she slept with you.
They saw her go home with me. What did they think she was going back to my place for? Coffee?
Her friends were constantly making passive aggrassive comments towards me that night so I think she realised when she woke up.
> What is she saying happened?
That she was very intoxicated (not true) and passed out on my bed. And that I then had sex with her when she wasn't conscious. Which is NOT true as on of my room mates testified that she was completely coherent when she arrived to our appartment and he heard plenty of noise from our room and us talking afterwards.
1 not_good_looking 2018-05-08
“Incel”
“Puts coins into machine to have sex with women”
Pick one.
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-08
Women love rape and abuse, so long as it's an attractive male.
>sex machines you put coins into
If only it worked that way. Instead, you have to put a Chad face and body in front of them.
1 Soiled_Bugman 2018-05-08
Post a poster that says "WOMEN HATE UGLY MEN" in bold red letters like that.
1 deadmedium 2018-05-08
wouldnt even raise an eyebrow - people are unable to be sympathetic to men much less ugly ones.
1 NightSkyPill 2018-05-08
No we don't. My last boyfriend was 5/10 tee hee.
1 Mr-Mercedes- 2018-05-08
Females aren't fat anymore (only guys can be fat).
They're thick
1 eyewant 2018-05-08
I dont trust the word curvy anymore
1 PM_ME_TENDIE_STORIES 2018-05-08
Does not check out.
1 HalalHaramKabab 2018-05-08
Teehee
Ugly guys are so cute
1 michaelochurch 2018-05-08
Women ignore ugly men.
The hate is those men projecting their seething rage on to other people.
Also, take it from an old (I'm 34): few people are truly ugly. Most people are average looking, and an average-looking guy with a good personality can do quite well if he gets past his own ego and focuses on the other person.
1 Petedapug 2018-05-08
Was that the context of the original post cause then that would be correct. But I have seen some scary stuff on here so just wanted the original reason for the post before I decided.
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
It's a thumbnail from a video that just explains how women can ruin a man's live with one sentence.
1 not_good_looking 2018-05-08
“Just pretend you have seen scary stuff here theory”
1 Petedapug 2018-05-08
That is a fair point
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-08
Consent can be revoked at any time. Just because she says yes does not mean she can’t change her mind later on
1 SyrusDrake 2018-05-08
She can revoke her consent for upcoming actions, obviously. But it shouldn't be possible to retroactively revoke consent that has already happened.
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-08
She still can.like if a man manipulates a women into letting her sleep with him and it isn’t until after a few days that she realized she have been used. For example if a girl boyfriend broke up with her and she is not in the right mind to consent.
1 fukworld_2 2018-05-08
You are a horrible person. Rape can send someone to jail for years. She is a fucking adult who makes her own choices. No one is manipulating her if she agreed to have sex. You can't just decide that someone raped you because there is a bad situation in your life and you're not in the right state of mind. By that logic, I should go rob a bank everytime something bad happens in my life because I am not in the right mind to realize how my actions affect others.
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-08
And getting Raped can cause you to have emotional trauma and suffering for years upon years not to mention people not believing you when you say you have been Raped, soo I win.
1 fukworld_2 2018-05-08
You can't just decide you were raped because you regret it. Women want equality but can't handle taking responsibility for their own actions. Regret is not rape.
1 32ozbottle 2018-05-08
Low IQ comment
1 AT0MIC_ACE_PUGG 2018-05-08
You didn't win shit
1 deadmedium 2018-05-08
regret is not rape.
sorry, but part of being equal is being equally accountable for your own actions. if you dont want to sleep around, dont sleep around but you cant just ruin a mans life just so you can lie to yourself and say you're not a slut.
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-08
It’s not regret, it’s called being emotionally taken advantage of. Physical isn’t the only way to take advantage of a women
1 deadmedium 2018-05-08
call it what you want, it isnt rape. :2
regardless of if you "regret" a sexual encounter and feel that you were "emotionally taken advantage of" after the fact, that doesnt change the fact that you consented to it in the moment.
women need to "man up" in other words and live with the consequences of their actions. :2
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-08
How can I take you serious when you are using “:2” faces.
1 deadmedium 2018-05-08
i could care less whether you take me seriously or not :2
1 dalliedinthedilly 2018-05-08
That’s not rape. You need to look at consent laws and educate yourself. You are peddling harmful bs. Consent cannot be retroactively rescinded because the person who consented is no longer in the same emotional state as when they did. An emotional state is not a mental incapacity that would cause a judge or jury to doubt your consent was valid when it was obtained.
1 hitman6actual 2018-05-08
Imagine the consequences of recognizing "emotional coercion" as a form of rape. People would be guilty of rape for lying about their income, saying I love you without really meaning it (or changing their mind), etc.
1 dalliedinthedilly 2018-05-08
Exactly, people who withhold their relationship status would be rapists instead of just lying shitbags. Got to be a troll they cannot genuinely hold that belief.
1 hitman6actual 2018-05-08
What you're describing does not meet the legal definition of rape (which is a fairly low bar). There are tons of ways in which one partner can take advantage of another but "emotions" are not criminally protected. Even consent gained by dishonesty is not criminal unless it's accompanied by fraud. If that wasn't the case, there would be valid rape accusations whenever a couple broke up on bad terms. Anytime someone says "i love you", it would be emotional coercion.
1 Fourthwade1 2018-05-08
That isnt how consent works. If you consent/agree/acknowledge, done deal. Retroactively withdrawing consent for something already in past tense is retarded if you weren't coerced/forced/drugged and unable to comprehend the situation.
1 _neutral_username_ 2018-05-08
Are you an idiot?
1 MRAGGGAN 2018-05-08
Being coerced into giving consent, and feeling icky about having given consent are two entirely different things.
For once, the incels are right.
Regret is not rape.
Coercion is rape. Forceful penetration is rape.
Being upset that you cheated/rebounded is NOT rape.
Learn the difference.
1 Plazma60 2018-05-08
Wow holy shit, someone's not in the right mind to make decisions for themselves if a boyfriend or girlfriend broke up with them? That's insane. Women have just as much accountability as men. I really just come on here for curioisity but Christ that is purely nonsensical
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-05-08
Pretty misogynistic of you to remove agency from women
1 Whyuthinkthis 2018-05-08
Women can change their minds after sexual contact with a man is finished and then it can be considered rape?
You are one of the reasons why incels have such an ideology. You're making it worse for fucks sake.
1 Rubissrox 2018-05-08
You're retarded. Gotta take responsibility for your own actions. If you sleep with a guy and wanted to guess what? You did that. You can't go days later and think "Mm... Was probably raped."
Yo when incels are making more sense than you, you've fucked up.
1 hara-kiri-enthusiast 2018-05-08
Absolutely fucking disgusting
1 SyrusDrake 2018-05-08
So what would you recommend men do? If she says yes, you have no way of knowing if she's "in the right mind to consent". Should men do background checks for every girl they want to sleep with to rule out potential traumatic events in her recent past?
1 Ozg1408 2018-05-08
Crazy... i wonder whats the best way to protect yourself against this. Record her saying she consented? Having a text saying what happened was consensual?
1 32ozbottle 2018-05-08
Just wäre a body cam like cops do. Record yourself at all times.
1 neighborbirds 2018-05-08
You can't record people without their consent.
1 Moist___ 2018-05-08
You can and should if it saves you from being false rape accused
1 neighborbirds 2018-05-08
No I mean it's illegal and can't be used in court
1 Moist___ 2018-05-08
If I have proof that the crime I am accused of was falsified and they throw that away I would sue them for every fucking penny they have. I would get as many people as possible, online and in person to destroy that court judge. That's bullshit if true
1 neighborbirds 2018-05-08
It could probably be used in a police report and would probably affect the charging decision of the prosecutor based on the report. So if you were accused and had video proof of it being a false claim, you probably wouldn't get formally charged in the first place.
1 deadmedium 2018-05-08
depends on the state.
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
Apparently campus footage of her walking back to my place holding my arm and playfully kissing me isn't enough. Apparently drug tests showing that she was not under any date-rape drugs is not enough. My room mates confession also apparently not enough.
1 not_good_looking 2018-05-08
“Just change your mind later tee hee”
1 ChromeHomeDome 2018-05-08
What’s the grace period? If the guy keeps on plowing after she revokes consent then obviously it’s rape, but he’s still in there at the moment of revocation and has to pull out. How long can he stay before it’s legally rape?
1 jdh654 2018-05-08
I wonder this too. Like can he go for another one or two pumps real quick or what?
1 _neutral_username_ 2018-05-08
You are being satiric right?
1 harambeazn 2018-05-08
this is a bit too far tbh
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
How so?
1 Madeon929 2018-05-08
Take this upvote.
1 supakomanija 2018-05-08
pics or gtfo
1 thotbegone9000 2018-05-08
Don't do this. Don't make your life harder for a bunch of Internet points.
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
It won't make my life any harder than it already is. A girl ruined my life with one sentence.
1 Whyuthinkthis 2018-05-08
One sentence ruined your life?
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
"I was raped by Vannakabae"
1 Whyuthinkthis 2018-05-08
Yeah that'll do it.
1 PROLAPSED_SUBWOOFER 2018-05-08
Ravaging rapepill. It's OVER even if you do somehow get involved with a woman as an incel.
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
It's not worth it. I would take those 20 minutes back any day to get my friends and future back.
1 PROLAPSED_SUBWOOFER 2018-05-08
For real, rape accusations were the nail in the coffin for me. I could probably looksmax and find someone if I had enough money and willpower BUT I don't want the risk of my life getting even worse because of some cunt.
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-05-08
Go scorched earth on the foid. Get creative with it. Happened to me once and I shit that shit down, no one believed her anyway lol. And all that happened was that I lit a candle and put my arm around her. She left, we didn't even kiss lmao. Bitch why did we just grind for an hour dancing to the aqua album? Then cucks wonder why we despise foids lol.
1 Taysby 2018-05-08
Wow. Something I actually agree with in this sub? Get the fuck out!
1 Bloody69Hell 2018-05-08
Karma-whore but ironically this will only get like 500 up-votes maximum, which is shit.
Not only the poster is likely an autism-cel who is too afraid to go outside, less hang out something provocative. Then he is also likely a poor-cel who literally cannot afford this kind of shit (even if each flyer is 10 cents then ~50 bucks is not small money for them).
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
I'm poor because of the fucking lawsuit.
1 Bloody69Hell 2018-05-08
No shit, a bitch sued you for "rape"? If so... damn, bro!
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
The Uni also covers her legal fees as it happened within campus bounds. Meanwhile I get no support.
1 Bloody69Hell 2018-05-08
Well, fuck. This sucks and I have no idea how to support you, only to wish you all the best. In regards to the others, this is a lesson - don't stick your dick in crazy.
Best of luck, brother!
1 theloudeststorm 2018-05-08
Like you guys are getting laid anyway. Do everyone a favor and disappear.
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
What's your problem? There have been countless flyers at my uni saying "Don't be that man" in an attempt, and I quote head of the movement, "to decrease rape culture"
Yet when I had purely consensual sex with a girl, and she decided it was a bad decision a week later, it ruines my life and no one gives fuck.
1 theloudeststorm 2018-05-08
You do realize that doesn't fucking happen, right? People don't get put away with no fucking evidence. Fuck off.
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
No but there are many fucking social and mental consequences to being accused of sexual harrasment. People never fucking look at you the same way again.
1 dannymason 2018-05-08
See you in the news.
1 jak1ns4to 2018-05-08
why is this here? this is only a concern for chads who actually get to the point of intercourse
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
To remind you that it isn't worth it anyway. I may have had sex three times in my life but I was an incel for a very long time. And those 20 minutes are never worth it.
1 HalalHaramKabab 2018-05-08
I want a poster that says "It's only rape if she wakes up"
1 StoopidSeksyFlanders 2018-05-08
For ultimate shitlordnrss, just post a Shlomo meme. It doesn’t even need text. The one about rape will raise eyebrows, but anything to do with Jews will have the cops involved.
1 EBshitbird 2018-05-08
I’m dying to know how they spin this into promoting rape culture, it’s a pretty fair statement. Please keep us updated on the feedback you get
1 usernam028253954936 2018-05-08
Account created 15 hrs ago. Gtfo
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
What? You want me to use my real reddit account? people would instantly know which campus I'm talking about. gtfo.
1 usernam028253954936 2018-05-08
Don’t do it
1 alexbayside 2018-05-08
Haven’t read all the comments but I think a man asking a women if she is ok as you’re getting it on is all that needs to be asked. I mean, if I’m getting intimate with a guy and they ask me, “are you ok” that is all that’s needed. It’s a nice thing to ask too. As long as a man isn’t being pushy then everything is ok. I think if a man is being gentlemanly like, such as not being pushy and a woman is clearly into it and seems happy, there’s no harm in asking, are you ok? I actually find it a bit of a turn on. It shows they care and gives a woman the chance to say no if that’s how they feel. Rather than saying, do you consent to me having sex with you? It can be a bit of a turn off. Just don’t be pushy. As long as neither party is being pushy then it’s ok. I would say no if a man was being pushy without them having to ask if I didn’t want to proceed with it. In the past, when I’ve been with men and they check that I’m ok just by asking it’s a nice feeling to know they care about my feelings even when I’m all for it. All sane women know regret is not rape. All sane men know that being pushy isn’t the right thing to do.
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
Very well put. But from a legal point of view, if I were to have asked "are you ok?" wouldn't have changed the situation I am in.
1 alexbayside 2018-05-08
Oh shit. I’m so sorry. What’s the situation? Totally don’t have to answer that if you don’t feel comfortable. But I am guessing, someone has claimed rape?
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
I just leave the story I mentioned [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/8i14iz/for_every_one_upvote_this_gets_i_will_hang_a/dyp0xba/?context=3)
1 Sterling928 2018-05-08
If we're kissing, and you're kissing me back, and I start grinding on you and you grind back, and we start pawing at each other, and we go down on each other, I'm not going to ask "Are you okay?" before I enter you.
That's. Fucking. Nonsense.
Consent is given by being an active participant.
1 alexbayside 2018-05-08
Absolutely it is. I’m not saying to say it then. I’m saying as things are hitting up. Before going down on each other obviously. Having said that, if a guy doesn’t ask if I’m ok I don’t think that’s wrong either. Both people in this scenario were absolutely for it. She didn’t say no. Nothing has been done wrong. You haven’t done anything wrong. Have wrongful accusations been made? You need to fight it and say it for what it is. That you’d never do that. If you have to, or feel the need, say what happened. You are no rapist.
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-08
You make this in photoshop OP? Use layer options and add a 2 to 3 pixel black stroke on the red text
1 Sterling928 2018-05-08
Love it.
1 Ryzasu 2018-05-08
Does anyone even think that it's rape once you regret sex later? If she later regretted the sex, the sexual partner had no way to know he was raping her so it's extremely unfair to lock him up
1 Sterling928 2018-05-08
I'm not sure why you millennials have decided to complicated sex so thoroughly. I've been sexually active for 25 years and have never asked for permission, nor been accused of rape, nor raped. If you don't like or want something then say so -- done this countless times. It's actually very easy and, unlike asking permission (implied or otherwise), doesn't spoil the mood.
Women naturally want to be taken. Those that don't, I stay far away from.
1 LooksMatterToWomen 2018-05-08
Just a tip, but concentrate the posting of these flyers in areas where mostly MEN hang out, like the STEM courses. Find out where they hold the Computer Science and Engineering courses and focus your efforts there.
1 KingofCool123 2018-05-08
Agreed
1 gnovos 2018-05-08
It would be cool if you could combine the two messages into one. Like, they're both great messages, so make them both stand hand in hand like a consenting couple who just banged.
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
So a quick up-date:
I tried to hang up some of the posters in the middle of the night. But apparently someone had seen my post (fuck you whoever you are), found which campus I'm at and tipped off the Uni.
I got some posters up, but the next morning they were instantly removed. At night I was only able to get a hand full of picture with my mobile phone flash and they all look shit.
I'm sorry.
1 samurai96 2018-05-08
Update??
1 Board_Gaming 2018-05-08
Asking for upvotes is against Reddit's content policy.
1 Vannakabae 2018-05-08
"I was raped by Vannakabae"
1 camouflage365 2018-05-08
To literally ask someone if you can have sex with them?
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-05-08
Do you think consent is unable to be given implicitly through context (the specific situation/surroundings, body language, topic of conversation, flirtation etc.) and can only be given explicitly verbally?
1 hitman6actual 2018-05-08
Imagine the consequences of recognizing "emotional coercion" as a form of rape. People would be guilty of rape for lying about their income, saying I love you without really meaning it (or changing their mind), etc.