IT: source?

IT: this is made up

Reverse search the image you troglodyte.

Uhm what? I‘m not IT

I just said IT cucks and roasties would write this

My bad, apologies. Im lowiq

No, you’re nor low IQ, it was just a little mistake in your brain

Incels are generally high IQ

fuck females

femoids*

offal*

You likely never will

sick burn no one saw coming

Bet no one saw you coming either huh

unfunny non-clever reply

Teach me how to be funny with your abundance of social skills please

dude are you okay?

Well that wasn't very funny

It isn’t a joke I’m serious ARE you okay?

I am seriously trying to

Femoids are the scourge of the fucking earth. I cannot suggest bodily harm against femshits on this sub without being banned but I can wish for it...I am doing that right now.

Femoids are the scourge of the fucking earth.

why?

Don't be fucking retarded, many of peoples problem stem from women. Especially feminism

many of peoples problem stem from niggers. so?

Don't be dissing the ethnicels out there. I knew you IT cucks were racists. But of course your still a bunch of retarded male feminists ruining society, hooray

so you won't answer the question. got it

Okay, since you are probably retarded I will ELI5.

You think it's wrong to blame all blacks for the bad/stupid behavior of some blacks, but you thinks it's okay to blame all women for the bad/stupid behavior of some women. You are officially retarded.

Because blacks aren't genetically made to be criminals or whatever like your saying. But femoids are genetically made to not only be dumber than men but more picky then men, both of which caused feminism and hypergamy.

Blacks have the lowest IQ among all races, and black women (penalty+penalty) are as stupid as stupid can get, on average.

But femoids are genetically made ... more picky then men ... caused feminism

So it;s genetic or it's feminism? Or maybe feminism is genetic? You are retarded bro

I said that feminism was caused by women being retarded, and women are awful because of their genetics.

women are awful because of their genetics.

Women are awful TO YOU because of YOUR genetics. Women are awesome, in my experience.

Rubbing salt in the wounds is big of you

That's called "a blackpill". If he wants to blame his problems on women, he should move to /r/MGTOW, they love misogyny.

god. you don't know how iq works right?

IQ works in mysterious ways, amirite?

I'm curious about your evidentiary basis for this statement that women and made to 'be dumber than men'. Legitimately.

We officially recognize mental differences between men and women.

Hmm, you seem nice and smart teehee <3

Good thing there is no such thing as "femoids".

A wild retard appears!

Some of the people on this sub are deeply fucked up human beings.

Number of likes and retweets on these twitter blackpills always kills me. This isn't some weird sadomasochist singular girl, This is a common way that femoids get turned on.

So fucked

^ the Truth. Anyway femshit I get close with in life has this same fucked up mind. They say one thing but desire something completely different and if you call them out on it they’d turn red and giggle because they are Satanic.

No, it's because their parents abused them and they are seeking the same. I was a domestic violence victim by both my parents and my ex. I am not in a completely non-abusive relationship now. I learned about emotional abuse, emotional intelligence, and how to set healthy boundaries with those in your life that mistreat you.

I was raised being told I was a POS and I was bullied at school everyday. That cycle of attention lasts in a person's thinking patterns. It's a completely predictable and cliché thing to happen, and it has nothing to do with them being shitty people so much as continuing the cycle of abuse.

Thank you for honoring us by sharing your experience. I'm deeply sorry that happened to you. Hearing a story like yours is very humbling because one thing I did luck out on is parents. They fight with each other quite a bit, but, they are great to me and keep most of their bs hidden.

However, 18k likes is a lot; lord knows how many it went on to receive. And over 4k people liked it so much they re-posted it.

As of right now its sitting on 38k likes. 38k likes in less than 3 months from a random nobody on Twitter. Imagine if Kylie Jenner or Beyonce tweeted this.

Women inherently know they are not shit and crave to be treated as such. They just keep up the facade to snag simps and get free things.

Women inherently know they are not shit and crave to be treated as such. They just keep up the facade to snag simps and get free things.

Yeah well you've got me bang to rights there. When I think about how I spend my days- working, looking after my partner and the house we share, helping various family members who need it- I am indeed merely chasing 'simps' and 'free stuff'. It's so embarrassing, I'm 36 but a total stranger has provoked this epiphany. There I was thinking I was a normal member of society who respects and is respected by many men but nope! I'm just after cock and freebies. What a penetrating and insightful mind you must have.

Welp guess you were wrong because you just like evey other female isnt shit.

Funny i dont recall asking you about your story either. "Me me me me me" Fuck your life.

What a charmer you are. I really have no idea why you have trouble forming relationships with women, you've made me moist over the internet.

Does your bitch boy "partner" know you come on reddit to get your daily dose of degradation because he's too nice of a guy to spit in your whore face and tell you just how worthless you are?

I would only feel degraded by you if I cared about your opinion. As it is, it's like watching a cheat-beating ape from behind glass.

Yet you cared about my opinion enough to type up a whole paragraph about it.

Lmao

I like talking to people, what can I say. To be honest I've worked in the emergency services and the NHS, there's very little you could say to me that I haven't heard before, in person, screamed into my face.

Lmaooo Its amazing how you bring your life into everything. NOBODY CARES. Female=Narcissist

Ok, let's talk about you, if you'd prefer.

Suck my Dick.

Ok. Fly to Heathrow and await my instructions.

Dont waste my time Slag. I want all deepthroat action. I dont want want to see my dick just your pathetic face. Understand cunt?

You do realise you'd have to be in the same country as me... Low effort.

Fuck off.

Again... Low effort.

Low effort for a low down cunt.

Oh, are you still here? You are dismissed.

Kick rocks werdio.

There it is. That snug, “this is why you’re incel” meme that is obviously not true, as seen by the above tweet. Yet you keep repeating it. Can’t you form your own thoughts?

If a woman complained that she couldn't get a boyfriend, but was abrasive and unpleasant to any man who dared to speak to her, wouldn't you conclude fairly rapidly that that was part of the problem?

Honestly, though, if you know you're not like that, do you actually have to respond? Don't you have enough self-confidence to know that what he said is bullshit, instead of taking the spotlight and talk about yourself?

This comes up again and again, women are conniving, women don't have feelings, they've constantly got an eye out for a new, better partner. It just gets boring after a time.

Have you been appointed a protector of womenfolk?

No, do I have to be?

Well, all your zeal you put into defending women from these obviously bogus accusations, it suggests that it's your calling, hence the question.

Or are you distraught that you're not as conniving as you want to be and hence say that "not all women are like that".

So you don't think some incels take these posts seriously? My inbox would disagree.

I understand where the frustration and anger comes from, it must feel like women have all the power in relationships and that incels have a carrot dangled in front of them that they can never reach. But when I compare the proto-Stacy that's discussed here with the beliefs and actions of the women I actually know it's obvious that most of us aren't 'like that'. It's mildly annoying at times but, much more importantly, it's taking incels further and further away from meeting a suitable woman.

So you don't think some incels take these posts seriously? My inbox would disagree.

Okay. There are people who believe the Earth is flat and that there's a global conspiracy of (((THEM))). What's your point, exactly?

I understand where the frustration and anger comes from, it must feel like women have all the power in relationships

And they don't? Short of actual domination, women hold all the cards. I know that you've been down on your luck with relationships as well but your experience is also an outlier.

It's mildly annoying at times but, much more importantly, it's taking incels further and further away from meeting a suitable woman.

Do you know who's a suitable woman for each and every one of us, I reckon or do you base off some weird preconceived notion of who we are because we might, just might check a few of them stereotypical boxes? In that case - how are you different from us?

What I'm trying to tell you is that women cover a broader spectrum than many incels seem to believe. Surely you can see that telling some of the younger guys here over and over again that women are femoids with no discernible difference of personality or desires will lead them to think they will never find one they can bond with.

What I'm trying to tell you is that women cover a broader spectrum than many incels seem to believe.

Everything in this life amounts to chance. You go under and you lose and you over and you lose but you go just right and you might, just might win. I can't, in all honesty, speak for all incels but we know that intellectually, not all women are like that. And yet many, great many of them are like that. How do you suggest we cope? I mean, I'm slowly approaching full nihilist but the same younger guys you're lamenting about, what do you want to give them instead?

The same clueless hope "oh sweety there's someone for everyone there just don't be an asshole"? Is that you're preaching instead? Why not preach "the world is shit, women are shite, men are shite, hope for the best, prepare for the worst"? Wouldn't it be more honest?

I'm not trying to say that there's a perfect match waiting for every single person out there. I'm a realist- I knew that my own chances of dating were pretty slim. But sitting on a forum, bitching about how terrible women are, is not going to help matters at all. By all means 'hope for the best but prepare for the worst' but the amount of talk about 'roping' here, tongue in cheek as that may be, doesn't actually encourage hope or happiness or progress.

If I was an 18 year old guy who was nervous around women to the extent I could barely talk to them, an untouched virgin who believes himself to be ugly beyond pardon, this sub would probably pull me in and ensure I would stay that way.

But sitting on a forum, bitching about how terrible women are, is not going to help matters at all.

Are you sure about that? Because for example, it lets me dump negative emotions that I have in this regard without those emotions actually harming anyone. Yes, people get offended but I'd rather offend people that bring them actual distress. Again, it's not like they are forced to read this at gunpoint.

By all means 'hope for the best but prepare for the worst' but the amount of talk about 'roping' here, tongue in cheek as that may be, doesn't actually encourage hope or happiness or progress.

Many of us are sick of positivism. We're constantly told to keep smiling in the face of distress, hardship or danger but it doesn't really accomplish anything. The aforementioned distress or hardship aren't going away and you're looking like a grinning fool too. Or maybe we just have a different understanding of what's what by virtue of having different genders and experiences.

If I was an 18 year old guy who was nervous around women to the extent I could barely talk to them, an untouched virgin who believes himself to be ugly beyond pardon, this sub would probably pull me in and ensure I would stay that way.

You're conjecturing. You have never had that kind of experience and you're also a woman. Before you pull out the card "what about you talking about what women and women aren't" - we actually try to get into a relationship, we tried/try to change and we usually are pretty good at observations (don't let the juvenile edginess fool you). Whereas you're just taking a standpoint because you feel like it.

Tell me I'm wrong about this assessement.

I've said, I'm not pretending to have that experience, but if you think you're alone and no one understands you but you find an online community of people who welcome you it's very seductive to go all in, no matter which sex you are.

There's a massive sweep of emotion between despair and Disney worker. I wouldn't​ expect anyone to plaster on a smile for my or anyone else's benefit but if someone insists on only seeing the worst in the behaviour and motives of everyone around them that's all they'll see after a while.

I've said, I'm not pretending to have that experience, but if you think you're alone and no one understands you but you find an online community of people who welcome you it's very seductive to go all in, no matter which sex you are.

You've missed the point I've been trying to convey by a large margin.

No, I don't think I have. Your point, as I see it, is that incels live a particularly miserable life, and being a 'femoid' who lives life on 'easy mode', I couldn't possibly understand.

You're firm like a brick wall, shame my head hurts when I bang at it.

Look, I have done nothing but be conciliatory here, to try and find some common ground. Now you do what so many here do and walk away from the conversation, saying I don't understand. Yet incels believe they understand women, with very little evidence of that.

You have literally bitched out about a tangentially related stuff, you again bitched out about the community in general, implying that it serves no purpose.

Well, it doesn't for you but it does for us.

You're no conciliatory, you're either obtuse on purpose you legit fail to understand, which makes it even worse, to be honest.

When did I say it serves no purpose? I can see very well it's a lifeline for some guys. I just don't see why encouraging incels to think that women are literally evil helps them deal with or solve their problems.

When did I say it serves no purpose?

I said you implied it. But as with every implication, the onus is on the one stating that it is an implication. If it's not - then my apologies, I probably misread you.

Come on, don't be disingenuous. Someone will post some comment by a woman expressing a preference for tall men, or relate some tale about how literally every girl at school has rejected him, and there'll be comments, not just slagging the women off, but inferring deep genuine evil from their actions. That's entirely different from accepting that both men and women are a blend of light and dark, whatever you think the ratio is.

They say it for different reasons. They say it to be edgy and upset people. They say it because they legitimately had no positive experience with women, leading them to believe that they are all evil. They say because others are saying it.

There are myriads of reasons why they're saying that and some of them might not even be offensive but you still decide to take offence on behalf of the sisterhood, why is that?

This isn't a sisterhood thing, I ignore the vast majority of stuff on here that I find ridiculous.

As I've been trying to make clear, this doesn't really affect women. Not many of them come here, and casual insults from men aren't exactly news. It's the incels that suffer when they try to apply the version of women they've got from this forum to women in real life- it doesn't work because they don't match up. If an incel believes that women are evil, only love Chad and want to wring every penny out of him, he will be so cynical and suspicious any romance will die on the vine.

As you referred to, I was single for a long time. I had rejections, I had men laugh and loudly call over to their friends if I expressed an interest, I had men ask me out for a joke. I've had men pull over their cars in the street to tell me I was an ugly fat bitch, I've been spat on in a club and called a cunt, I've had numerous teenage girls giggle about me to their friends, and many young women who should know better doing the same. Some drunk men believe that all big women are desperate so I've been pulled about and grabbed and pinched and slobbered on. I don't go to pubs or clubs now.

Most of those could be incel experiences, couldn't they? I could have gone down the rabbit hole, assumed this was typical male behaviour and never willingly talked to a man again. But I didn't, I chose not to, and as result I was able to date and find someone, even though it took me a while.

Here's my position. Some women are fucking horrible, you know that, we women know that. I know women that have fucked men over, passed off another man's kid as her husband's... a friend even had a false rape allegation laid against him. But unless my family and friends are a particularly virtuous bunch (and they're really not) the proportion of women who are downright arseholes is nowhere near as high as braincels would have you believe. That's the main thing. When women are bad they really can be stunningly ruthless and cruel- but the rest of us disapprove, rather than admiring them.

You're 36 well past the wall. If humans didn't age you'd be whoring around for eternity

Whoosh....

But that’s not really that many people is it? Like, precantage-wise even just amongst twitter users that’s a strong minority. Not to mention that there’s a decent chance that at minimum 10k of those likes are dudes like you who saw it and said “OMG I knew women thought like that!”

It's not just my experience; it's a phenomenon noted by thousands of psychologists.

Even if thats true hows it explain them getting turned on by it? I highly doubt all 30k+ of the women that likes it were abused

Because its a joke and women arent literally turned on by it.

Every joke has an element of truth, you know that?

Often they do. Sometimes none at all. Its often a bit funnier if it has some element of truth, and sometimes less funny if its too true. Humour is complicated.

This is clearly a hyperbole, and women are poking fun at it. Few women literally feel this way.

This is clearly a hyperbole, and women are poking fun at it. Few women literally feel this way.

There's a spot on your breastplate, Ser Knigget.

Easier to retort this way, isnt it?

Sorry, do you actually think such blatant white knighting warrants a proper response?

White knighting is genuinely how you assess this?

Your input? Yes.

How so?

When you try to make a point on someone else’s comment don’t you feel you are warranted a response? God forbid you bring yourself down to their level and have a discussion though, right.

News flash: nothing he said is offensive in any way, so why be a dick instead of talking? And if you don’t wanna talk then why respond at all.

It’s almost like you saw someone with a differing opinion, scoffed at the idea of interacting with said person, and put them down instead. And if that’s what happened, you are the worst kind of person and the reason nothing gets better in this world

Nice bait. Anyone who plays an explainer and an absolver to women - is a white knight. Sorry to disappoint you but women do like domination and often times a borderline abuse but only when a person is handsome and they're attracted to him.

I'm not even talking about kinks.

Not trying to pick a fight or be pedantic, I just really didn’t see it as white knighting at all. I saw him respond that he thought they were joking and you respond that he wasn’t even worth responding to. Is everyone on the other side of the debate a “feminist apologist”? Don’t answer that here because I don’t care to have that discussion. Just food for thought.

Your views are vastly different than mine, and that piques my interest. I’m a scientist by nature so I never assume that what i believe is 100% right all the time, nor do I believe that my opponents are 100% wrong. I hate shutting down dissenting opinions though, it stunts intellectual growth and reeks of insecurity.

On the topic at hand, it is certainly nothing new. SOME women have been seen/known to respond positively to being treated in a way that borders on abusive. In my estimation, most people on this world are either dominant or submissive on some deep level, and it’s not hard to find out that plenty of guys are into being abused (a simple google search of female domination can show that). So it seems to me that a female who is submissive being aroused by behavior bordering on abusive would naturally follow, especially given how much more socially acceptable it is for a women to be submissive than it is for a man.

On top of that, there’s no empirical evidence that all the likes were women, much less women who are also turned on by such things. Additionally, it was phrased as a joke (not the use of contrasting emojis) so some may have liked it because they laughed. Add to THAT the relatively minuscule sample size that is 30k people on Twitter, and it just bemuses me that this garners such interest here.

I suspect confirmation bias

Well he is a proper white knight

And you know that all 30k upvotes were women? Or could we safely assume at least a third of those likes were men who liked it because it validates how they think women are

LOL.

No, it's because of the WAW Effect. Women have to present themselves as angelic creatures, so they can reap the benefits of society believing them to be so.

It can be hard to have good experiences with people. I used to have this opinion of women. I am female, but I really didn't like women. Things have changed as I have gotten older. I've had some great female friends and role models; a lot of them are in academia. They do not need to be angelic, they are not catty, they know who they are, and they are perfectly fine with their flaws. I hope you can meet such women in your life.

Point = missed. Women are cunts, just like men. They present them as angels, and being perpetual victims and revelling in and advertising that fact is ore a part of that.

Every fucking femoid has a whiny "domestic violence/abuse" tale to tell. Yet all objective studies illustrate that they commit as much abuse and violence as men in relationships. Miraculous contradiction, isn't it?

You just sound like a misanthrope to me. I don't really believe that you think men and women are equally bad, though. Women are very abusive, but from what I've read just slightly less so than men. I was more abused by my parents and bullies at school. You can think I'm whiny about it, sure. It has seriously affected my emotional well being. I go out of my way to be educated about emotional intelligence so that I don't do it to others. If everyone did that, we'd all be less cuntish.

It sounds like a lot of people on this forum have been through a lot of abuse. It is terrible. It's why I try to participate here. I'm not saying my experience has been anyone near as bad as anyone else's here. I'm only trying to connect. Perhaps I'm doing it all wrong. I just want to say I care about your pain and can relate to it on a small level.

You're going to continue to hate me no matter what I say, but I don't mind. I just want to speak my peace.

r/nobodyasked

>They say one thing but desire something completely different

Fibmales in a nutshell. And then IT insists we must not have TALKED to women before, because our views are incongruent with what women usually say.

And reality.

the reality is right here. You just don't like it.

They just have to believe those girls so they can tell themselves they're not being cycled.

if you call them out on it they’d turn red and giggle because they are Satanic.

it's literally like that, holy shit

And yet they have the nerve to tell us we have terrible personalities. Femoids are indeed horrible.

Twilight fandom became a virgin getting bdsm'd by a rich sadist, it's just the way it is. Edward was a bossy (retired) serial killer that wanted to murder Bella, afterall, but rich and pretty also.

It's a female thing.

Let alone 50 shades of grey

The joke is that Twilight fandom IS 50 Shades of Gray, I hope you realize.

Yep, edit

No, it's a good thing that you didn't know. I only know of these shitty movies because of the blackpills they unintentionally deliver.

Please stop with all the movie blackpills

They just proved to me that foids love getting raped by Chad

Its one of the most potent blackpills too. Tinder chadfishing is one thing. But think about all the hours, money and thought that went into making this movie...and this is what they made. A massive, unintentional blackpill.

Any other recommendations?

Yup, the author literally changed names in the fandom and called it 50 shades of grey.

The joke is that Twilight fandom IS 50 Shades of Grey, I hope you realise.

I mean, are you really surprised that females like to be abused?

yelling

abuse

So now emotional abuse is not abuse.

I'm a pretty relaxed guy but occasionally I'll do something that displays a little bit of anger, like get a bit annoyed at her, throw an object down etc. Every time my girlfriend goes "oooh"

It's over for calmcels.

Have you heard of femdom?

You kno nothing

yeah it's a common known thing that girl get turned on by dirty talk and few slaps here and there

Any possibility these retweets are by people like you?

No it's not. I screamed at my girlfriend once and she ran away crying and didn't want to see me for the entire evening. Had to scramble for words to get her back.

I did laugh at the use of smileys ngl

This is very bizzare to me.. the likes and retweets are discouraging. I don't know... I might be hanging around here for too long that I'm starting to be persuaded lmao...I can garuntee if a guy posted the exact same thing and put something like "your brain" and "your pussy" ...he would be attacked.

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What the hell is going on?

This made me crack up a lot more than it should've.

The first reddit bot I don't actually find to be a nuisance.

Botcel uprising is here

Thank you for your service.

The blackpill will engulf us all

Join us incel, were a welcoming bunch

Even if what I agreed with what you guys said, I'd never be welcomed. Not only am I not an incel, I'm a femoid.

Hey ther

femoi

FUCK OFF

In that case, fuck off.

holy shit FUCK YOU

Dykes and incels make natural friends. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip7kP_dd6LU

I don't mind dykes, unless they are feminist dykes.

Lesbian can be honorary incels imo. They have to deal with other females.

That's very on point

Not really incel, moreso blackpilled Chad/normie

You have some blackpilled normies who stand up to defend you guys, I'm one of them!

You're traveling a dangerous path, you're walking with us nuclear black knights

I know rationally that my friends would be completely supportive if I dated a below-average-in-attractiveness girl or a girl without a university degree. Yet, even if a such girl has the most amazing personality, I would still not ask her out for a date, because I irrationally fear that I would feel ashamed being seen with her at social gatherings.

I can in such sense very much identify with the struggle between rationality and irrationality portrayed by the girl in the opening post of this thread.

Men have rape fantasies too. There's a world of femdom out there.

There's a world filled with cucks out there.

Who are you quoting?

This quote supports the idea that a desire to be dominated is not based on sex chromosomes.

Faggots (cucks) are shunned here too, but there are more girls than faggots and nobody in this subreddit wants to sleep with faggots

I get it. It isn't women or cucks you hate. It's your own weakness you are projecting on to them. Your fear that you will be dominated and swallowed by the great gulf of oneness, love, and a devouring vagina. Losing your self is a scary prospect.

I get it

-person who doesn't get it (2018)

"Vagina Dentata... What a wonderful phrase! Vagina Dentata... ain't no passin' craze! It means no wiener for the rest of your days! It's a penis-free girl cavity! Vagina Dentata!"

Our fundamental human fear, reflected in our gods and monsters, is the fear of being eaten. We forcibly removed ourselves from the food chain, and any attempt to put us back into the mix is both horrifying, as well as an attack on our humanity. Cucks and Roasties are monsters

the blackpill resonates with everyone on some level, because it's reality.

yeah, even attractive people know they get mogged by MORE attractive people.

am i the only one here who likes this? i just wish i could get a girl. if i could i'd definitely order her around and tell her what to do and tell her what a stupid fuck she is if she engaged in any mainstream interests without my permission. i wouldn't let her dress, watch or read anything that i did not approve.

Nah I like it, but I don't try to control her, I just yell at her when she does something or says something I don't like lol

ur supposed to 'control' her like you would control your 8 yr old daughter. she has to do as she's told.

Good luck with that lol

this is why you fucks are virgins

nah it's not

it is tho

imagine your face if a girl you were interested in found your reddit account lmfao

oh well that's never gonna happen anyways

yes... because you act like this

but girls like that? so long as you're hot. it's a win win.

They like it in the context of their partner doing it if they're into that kind of thing. Not all women are, which I know flies in the face of incel doctrine.

they all are

Nope. That's just y'alls shared delusion.

Just point to random fact and say this is why they are incel theory

Is this why you are a virgin?

nah i just smashed my 10/10 gf

And you wonder why you can't get a girlfriend 🤔🤔🤔

It's people like that guy who give incels a bad name. No female wants that level of abuse. The tweet makes sense, but that guy crossed a limit. I'm not even someone from IT.

Literally look at the tweet

Yeah, there's a difference between dominant aggression and abuse. No women would want to be in a relationship with someone who controlled what she could wear and call her a stupid fuck. I'm not discrediting the tweet, because it's obviously true. I'm not a blackpill denier, but there's a line and that guy crossed it.

The tweet is a joke. Jesus.

You said it, man.

She posts about this shit all the time, go look at her Twitter

It's all about how she's crazy about dick. This is part of that.

That in no way means it isnt jokes or hyperbole, or that the people retweeting it are seeing it as jokes and hyperboles.

It's hyperbole, sure, to make a joke out of the fact that she's turned on when her man yells at her.

Yes. People do not literally mean that. And the ones who do, are not "all women". They are joking about liking masculine aggression. No one likes being yelled at or treated badly.

are you a muslim?

no

Nah man you’re tripping.

That's why you can't get a girl

Yeah he cant get a girl because he would boss her around... Wait, how is this why he can't get a girl since he didn't get one in the first place? Low IQ fuckface.

If you think thats how women work, then you will never land a woman.

Do that to any women I know, and you would land yourself a punch in the face.

that is how women work, and anybody who does that, including me, probably has far more test than you and would bash the fucking shit out of you.

Clearly you are an expert.

Clearly. Now waddle back to your safe space tubster.

Right. Good luck with your future relationships.

Good thing I like yelling at bitches lol.

It only works if you're Chad (1 in 20 men) otherwise you get MeTooed.

Nah lol

FACT whether you like it or not, I ain't no Chad.

Yell at her as an incel = #MeToo tweet

Jail time too!
But seriously, if a woman likes you enough to have sex with you, she probably wants to be dominated.

Femoids are total shit. Chad will be a good guy and she will leave for abusive chad, because bad guy had better chance of survival 100 000 years ago in central Africa

Cope. Nice chad > abusive chad

Wrong. Predatory Chad >>>> Constructive Chad. Take the Black Pill.

You're the one refusing to take the blackpill. Incels are trying to make a personality trait (asshole-ness/jerk-ness) into something sexually attractive to women. This is a cope that's trying to make sexual attractiveness tied with personality. The real blackpill is that personality has NO BEARING on sexual attractiveness and that women prefer nice chads, but have to settle for asshole chads.

And your stats don't really mean anything. Chads are sometimes assholes because they can be. They're mean because they're attractive, not attractive because they're mean. This is the real blackpill.

your stats don't really mean anything

Evidence is meaningless amarite

personality has NO BEARING on sexual attractiveness and women prefer nice chads, but have to settle for asshole chads

You just contradicted your own statements within the same goddamn sentence.

Had you read the studies and articles you'd know dominant, careless behavior makes good-looking men more attractive in the eyes of women than cooperative, respectful behavior.

> Evidence is meaningless amarite

It's the interpretation that's wrong. I interpret this data as chads taking advantage of their position and being assholes, not as men who have ascended to chadhood via assholic behavior.

> contradicted

Women prefer nice chads for non-sexual reasons. I said personality has no bearing on sexual attractiveness, No contradiction.

This entire subject is a redpill cope designed for incels to self-insert themselves as the assholes supposedly receiving an attractiveness boost, whether they realize it or not.

No, no, no RedPill here. You can't go from unattractive to attractive through behavior, wether constructive of destructive. That is 100% correct.

What I meant is that destructive behavior has a positive impact on good-looking men's sexual attractiveness while a negative impact on ugly-looking men's sexual attractiveness.

In other words: once you're in the top 5% best-looking men or so, a predatory attitude makes you MORE sexually attractive to women, but if you're below that 5% or so aggressiveness and carelessness makes you LESS attractive.

Ever consider that women want nicer chads for reasons unrelated to raw sexual attraction? e.g. stability and reliability. Jerk Chad will cheat on her and leave her out to dry while nice Chad won't. Women who get bored by stability and want to live on the edge will prefer jerk Chad, but again, this has nothing to do with raw attraction.

you must be new here

in central Africa

Pretty sure out-of-africa theory was recently debunked

Nah it still stands. There are tons of those "debunking out-of-africa theory" every year but they're all bs

Why are IT, normies and femoids suddenly so silent?

Because there is no way we could say it that you folks would think is reasonable. But since you asked, I'll try. Lets do a gender swap for a second.

Her: [yells at me] My brain: :( My dick: :)

Lets say you're a dude scrolling through twitter, you see it, you chuckle since it's a little funny, or you you relate a bit since you like dominate women or a bitta angry sex. It doesn't mean you want to be treated like shit all the time. I'm willing to bet that for 95% of the women who retweeted that, it's an exaggeration, maybe one with a kernel of truth but not a reflection of how they actually feel. That's what makes it a joke.

I'd probably retweet it without thinking too much, and I cry every time someone yells at me. There are other jokes like this as well. If I retweet a picture that says I want 100 dogs, I don't want everyone to start giving me dogs until I have 100. It's an exaggeration that I just like dogs. Just like these folks might not like being yelled at in actual anger, but they like some angry sex or a bit of sexual dominance. Like people of and gender can be into.

So when normies make "jokes" proving the blackpill that's all okay, but when we make roast beef memes and blackpilled jokes as such it's not. Alright

I disagree. I think this was an unintentional glimpse into the subconscious of females.

Well as long as it fits your preconceived notion.

And some women, sure, because everyone's different. Of all women? Nah.

And you’re certain of this because you, the eternal virgin, are more familiar with the minds of females than actual females? Lovely.

Good post.

As if anyone in here would like to be yelled at by a femoid. Just lol

you chuckle since it's a little funny, or you you relate a bit since you like dominate women or a bitta angry sex.

no

It's Twitter. Guys could be up voting it or people just doing it to do it.

Remember that Chinese prom dress situation? Every one more or less thought it was retarded but it got well over 100k likes.

Twitter is a good indicator or popularity and discussion but not for statistics.

JFL at you for thinking it‘s guys voting it. It‘s clearly females.

Now there‘s even far more shares and likes. Why do so many woman think like that? Just look at other Twitter posts, they have less upvotes

You have no real proof on who is liking it. Anyone can like any content for any reason.

Uhhhm yeah sure, let‘s just pretend it‘s all guys liking it. Are you really THAT deluded? I hope you‘re just joking.

Never said it was all guys. It's obvs a mixture.

Just look at the post. It‘s pretty much only women that like this.

Don‘t pretend many men would like such behaviour. It‘s disturbing that women think like this.

You have people in this subreddit who want women to be subservient breeding machines who are immune to rape.

I think some men would up vote it. Are you delusional enough to think that only women saw that tweet and only women up voted it?

Of course „some“ men upvote it. But the vast majority are women.

My girl recently confided in me, she want me to just wake her up with rough sex. She really likes it when I'm really rough with her. /Shruggs

>my girl

normalfags get out reee

I am the patriarch I'm here to save you

Thank me later.

Reee on me as much as you want.

Just lurking. No reason to really engage with y'all. Just get downvoted, y'all will parrot the same memes, and nothing changes, so will just watch and laugh and move on.

Nah, too entertaining to GTFO.

This is why femoids need to be controlled. It's what they want and it's what's best for society.

Anyone above a 6 should run masc game. Women love knowing that they can be killed while they’re fucking Chad.

it is over for gentlemencels and goodpersonalitycels

Has it ever not been over?

Why aren't the cucks crawling out yet?

Hey there. You are a paranoid lunatic with knowledge of nothing. Your beliefs are shit and guarantee a life of misery for you. This is the cuckpill motherfucker!!!!

Just shout at the top of your voice theory

Ohhhh cucksssss where are you.....🧐

Hey there. You are a paranoid lunatic with knowledge of nothing. Your beliefs are shit and guarantee a life of misery for you. This is the cuckpill motherfucker!!!!

Cuck boi be mad lol

Only if you're Chad though

Alright so which album should I add this picture to? This one or this one?

Holy shit, hahahaha.

This shall be called the Tome of Blackpills vol.1 and vol.2

I need a rope rn

someone fucking put this on the sidebar

silence from inceltears.

I'm not surprised lmao.

Bitter black pills.

suicide fuel

I'm gonna be honest I don't think I'll ever be able to respect women

She’s talking about CHAD

Notice how there aren’t any IT faggots here to make up an excuse. Embrace the black pill!

JUST BE VIOLENT

I genuinely would not mind this as much if women were just honest about it

There is a huge disconnect between what women say they want and then what they actually want

Yelling = abuse apparently

It's not normal to he call 100% of the time, and no one expects you to be

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IT CUCKS ARE QUIET AS USUAL

It's dominance

Wtf

The ABSOLUTE state of modern women

Some people are into that kink though?

Shut the fuck up you degenerate whore. You're the reason misogyny exists

I hope youre kidding? There are people in the kink community who are brats who like to be yelled at then they act hurt because its part of their scene. But of course, if that person isnt in kink and gets yelled at and cries and makes the person feel bad and cry abuse when in reality she didnt care if she was yelled at, thats obviously horrible.

People into "kink" are mentally ill degenerates and that included you. Get the fuck away from me freak

Okay, thats your opinion. I do think youre overreacting since im not attacking you like you are to me.

But i can understand your stance on kink. Some people can’t wrap their minds around it and see it as abuse and of course abuse is bad so people are against that.

Didn't you hear? There's also a new kink where black people love to be consensually lynched. Of course that isn't batshit insane and degenerate.

No of course not, it's "safe, sane and consensual" as they love saying and doesn't at all say anything about the individuals who enjoy participating in it.

What do you mean by “doesnt say anything about the individuals who enjoy participating in it”?

They love rape, they love BDSM, but we're supposed to believe they're so traumatized over being raped and "suffering" "domestic violence."

I, for one, don't take it seriously.

And this genuine lack of empathy is your problem.

Why would I empathize when it's clear their pain is fake?

You believe their pain is fake because you genuinely lack empathy.

No, I believe it's fake because they clearly love rape and being abused, even admitting to it in certain situations.

No, no they do not.

You fail to grasp the situation because you genuinely lack empathy and understanding.

First of all, not all women like BDSM. Just like not all men like being pissed on. Its a small subset of people.

Second of all, people liking something in a sexual context with a trusted partner, does not translate in to real life. Sexual fantasies are not LITERAL (having to inform someone of this is a little scary). This applies to both men and women.

Lets say a man likes his partner to pee on him. Does that mean hes okay with random people pissing on him on the street completely out of context? Of course not.

Same with women who like rough sex. This does not translate in to everyday life. Neither from strangers or her man. Anything out of the sexual context is completely different.

Yes, kinks are weird and hard to understand from a psychological perspective. But you are not anywhere close to understanding the people around you. And that, is why you are having problems. Because its very unlikely that this is the only topic on human behaviour that you struggle to understand. And yes, people do tend to pick up on that.

with a trusted partner

You mean, "with a good-looking man." Because that's what it comes down to. If she finds him attractive, she's fine with it.

No, thats not how it works at all.

But its very convenient to blow it off as such.

I like how you equate most women's sexual desires with getting peed on.

Thats not what I did, but okay.

Y’all know bout girls with daddy issues? This is that in action.

Not all girls have daddy issues...

That woman doesn't speak for me.

Women like dominant men. That's just the way their brains are wired. People have known this for centuries, its only in the past few years that they bought into the equality meme.

Top post but ur making us look bad.. Dominant!

Women have bad taste

yet these pig whores want the right to vote, JFL. they will only vote for free gibs to support the consequences after fucking chad and getting preggo.

for Chad only

Women hate me because I'm nice and would never yell at them :(

Can confirm.

Wow, not one comment in this thread from a cucktears user, what a surprise.

These type of girls are always the biggest sloots

These are the best types of girls in bed. Just don't try to date them.

typical low iq foid

Its a joke, people.

Most women do not actually feel like that. Most women will break up with a guy if he keeps yelling at her.

My cousin got a restraining order from a massive chad that was abusive towards her. No one likes abuse.

That doesnt mean hyperboles arent funny.

Jimmy Carr, John Cleese, and basically all great comedians, have parts of their shows VERY MUCH not supposed to be taken literally like this. Sometimes theres a hint of truth, sometimes its just poking fun at stupid myths and stereotypes.

Taking all jokes literally is a testimony to a serious problem.

People retweet jokes all the time, mate.

Because its very obviously a joke.

How do you know dead baby jokes are jokes? They just are.

"So true omg" is meant to be funny. They are poking fun at a hyperbole. They dont literally mean it that way.

I assure you, it is a joke. No one* likes to be yelled at.

(* out of 7 billion people there will always be someone I guess, just like some people like scat)

Are you 12?

Trolling cope.

I have now looked at the comments, and they are very obviously joking and exaggerating.

Not being able to pick up on that is a handicap. This lack of insight in to people ends in a lot of misinterpretation and added frustration. And not being able to read social cues is something people notice, and sadly they tend to avoid such people, which then just ends in a vicious circle of misunderstandings and frustration.

Trolling cope.

Because thats what it is. You are trolling to cope. Its understandable.

I dont hate braincels at all. I feel quite sympathetic for a lot of them. Its an extremely hard life I wouldnt wish upon anyone.

What worries me though, is how lack of empathy in some of them spirals in to violence and hate. Its not healthy (for them).

Did you not read what I said?

Lol

But I do understand why empathy would be hard under the circumstances.

And why resorting to trolling is so common.

You are all human after all, and its very predictable behaviour.

I am not going to hate anyone for it.

Oh fuck off it's not just a random "joke" that isn't based on reality you condescending fucking cunt.

It very much is a joke.

No it is not you dense fuck. You are just here to be a condescending piece of shit and to make uninformed assumptions about incels lacking empathy and understanding social cues because Reddit told you so. You're an ignorant dipshit and you know deep down that it's not just a le random funi joke ahaha but is very much based in reality and is meant to be funny and relatable.

Not all incels lack empathy. Some very, very clearly do. To the point of dehumanizing half of the planet, or even claiming women are the only mammal on the planet without emotions.

Yes, it is a joke. Its poking fun at how a lot of women are turned on by aggressive masculinity, not how they literally like being yelled at. No one likes that.

Women dehumanize the vast majority of men and in some cases all men. You haven't been paying attention to feminism.

What's the fucking difference. As if them being turned on by aggressive masculinity is somehow less fucked up.

Thats absolute bollocks.

All women arent third wave feminists.

Being turned on by aggressive masculinity just means they like someone strong and protective. How is that any more or less fucked up than liking young women with big tits? Its just nature.

Most people dont act purely on it. Which is why its a joke.

Haha you clearly haven't been paying attention or you're just old as shit and out of touch. Misandry is completely normal now.

"It's just nature" ahaha now I know you're full of shit and how the fuck does not acting 100% purely on it make it a joke all of a sudden with no basis in reality. Just fucking lol at your IQ.

I'm 30, so I guess maybe a little old. Misandry is not normal where I'm at.

I never said it had no base in reality, I said it was a joke, a hyperbole, not literal. Women dont get turned on by being yelled at.

I genuinely hope you are young teens, but I suspect you are roughly the same age I'm afraid.

Then there is hope yet.

Your brain isnt fully developed for another few years.

Not an incel but the girl I talk to most told me

Some people do think that, while for others its incomprehensible because they are too sad or agitated. But the psychological phaenomena behind this is something entirely different than what this thread is about. Read more about it here

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/in-the-name-love/201302/why-make-sex-and-breakup-sex-are-so-good

Its not because women like to be yelled at either way. Both genders can transfer excitability (both positive and negative) in to sexual "energy" so to say (try to have sex on extacy). Not only in a sexual context, but any context. When we are agitated by some other source, its common to let that agitation highly influence other things happening, like decisions or opinions. And for some, also sex.

The basis in reality, not necessarily related to makeup sex, is that some women like aggressive masculinity, not that they like it to be directed at themselves in that manner at all. But look at things like Californication, and note how the women are attracted when Hank punches other men (to defend their honour in particular). Its the aggressive masculinity itself that can be attractive, which makes sense from an evolutionary perspective. Women like strong and assertive men (because they can protect), and sometimes an argument can bring that forward. Women dont actually want to be treated bad (which is the oposite of protecting). That is a huge misunderstanding. I'm sure there are exceptions, particularly women who grew up with abuse and tend to see it as normal, but generally no.

These women are poking fun at an exaggerated thing, not literally proclaiming that its enjoyable to be yelled at. It is very much a joke, an exaggeration, not meant to be taken like "its hot when someone treats me bad". Which from an evolutionary perspective also makes no sense.

The reason for some women liking bad boys has another highly misunderstood psychological phaenomena (men also do it). Its often misunderstood that those women want to be treated badly. Its the opposite, they want to be treated exclusively by someone who usually treats people badly. If anything its somewhat narcissistic, wanting to be special.

A lot of behaviour is highly misinterpreted. In this subreddit most female behaviour is interpreted in the most negative way imaginable, and viewed very much from an unnuanced and single point of view. Most of the time anyway. Some people are genuinely horrible, obviously.

Do you have any studies for the bad boy exclusivity thing, sounds interesting

Not specifically, but there appears to be a lot of different ways it can happen.

I found another phaenomena where unpredictable positive stimulus initiates a more positive response than predictable positive stimulus, and it applies to both genders https://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/opinion/sunday/i-heart-unpredictable-love.html

(Everyone knows a guy or a girl who stays with someone like that). I'd imagine the younger you are, the more likely you are to do this mistake. In any case, the negative stimulus isnt what the person likes. Its the positive stimulus they like, they just get a larger reward if its surprising and inconsistent.

Imagine an unobtainable person that generally treats people badly, if they suddenly pay positive attention to you that will elicit a stronger reward response than someone predictably being nice to everyone. That is the essence of the bad boy/girl I'd say.

Youve done a lot of research on this, were you ever incel yourself?

No, never. But I am a medical doctor in training, previously educated in molecular biology (emphasis on neurobiology and behaviour), and I find behaviour, psychiatry and psychology interesting (not a medical specialist in anything yet). I enjoy observing and trying to understand people. Which is why I pop in on these subreddits on occassion.

Hey, hypothalamagic, just a quick heads-up:
occassion is actually spelled occasion. You can remember it by two cs, one s.
Have a nice day!

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Thanks, robot <3

You should get a load of studies related to incels and post them here. There are a lot of studies supporting the incel ideology but I have a feeling they look for what they want to find and leave anything else open to guessing, leading to some of the more radical people here. I'd like to see both sides and get a complete picture of what's really going on with human sexuality (don't have time for this myself as I've got big tests coming up)

Depends on what you mean by incel ideology?

Well I've seen some things posted supporting women having higher visual standards, women not considering a man's personality at all past a certain threshold of looks (in the ugly direction), women being worse at knowing what they actually want in comparison to men, and women being more sexually attracted to bullies.

It applies to some women for sure, I have seen it, but not all 3.5 billion women are the same person. You can demonstrably find some women where it applies, and many where it doesnt at all.

You can just as easily find men who fit the same description as well (shallow, not caring about personality, dealing with women who treat them badly, attracted to the "mean girls", etc).

The biggest problem with "incel ideology" in this sense is that people insist that all people are exactly the same. There is such a huge variation, you are likely to find all of these traits scattered among both men and women, where some fit the criteria and others dont.

You might see statistics skewed in one direction when you compare the genders, but our huge population of more than 7 billion ensures that there are a LOT of people that are all very different.

Population statistics can NEVER EVER say anything specific about one single individual. That is VERY important to remember.

From an evolutionary perspective, men care more about physical appearance than do women. For women other traits are more important (financial stability, assertiveness, physical strength, intelligence). How much each individual weights these factors varies immensely, but women demonstrably on average tend to look at the whole package and traits other than looks. Men tend to weight other characteristics less. Its more important for the woman to be young, attractive and fertile, than her being intelligent or financially stable (men dont care about a womans income or education generally). Thats why men tend to easily "marry down" when it comes to those factors, but less so when it comes to age and looks (you rarely see a man with an older woman for this reason).

Now because of this, we see some interesting statistics. If all women marry up when it comes to traits like education and income, then some men just wont make the cut. Especially now that women are increasingly becoming more educated, and dont want men with a lower level of education than them. This means that the pool of men who dont cut it, is increasing. Meaning the men who do make the cut, tend to have children with more women, taking the place of the other men. This has always been the case, but because women are more independent and educated, its getting "worse". Blaming looks alone is somewhat of a dead end, because its demonstrably not true. Other traits, like education and power, massively compensate for looks in men (much less so in women).

Theres some statistics regarding how women pick differently depending on whether they want long term relationships or short term sex. But again, this is population statistics and not a one size fits all. Something being statistically significant doesnt mean it has to be one way or the other. It just means that if you are observing 1000 women, more of them are likely to favour one trait over the other. Meaning you might very well have 300-400 women in this group who dont.

The variation you're talking about is present in different amount for different factors. If I find a hundred teenagers that like 13 reasons why, you can guarantee someone else can just as easily find 100 who don't, as the split is about 50 50. If I find 100 people that prefer the taste of chocolate to licorice and ask you to find 100, you'll take a lot longer than I did. You don't know the variation without testing and with something as heavily biased to one side as the 80 20 rule, i don't know why you would just assume it's a very high variation and brush off all the incel studies, and then after that cherrypick your own ideas you arbitrarily assign a low variation to like women marrying up and men preferring looks. At the end of the day i agree with you though that the incel studies have nowhere near the rigidness that is claimed, but the variation isn't all that high either (or at least the percentage of people that vary. It's probably like a normal distribution: high variation, but pretty much everyone's in the middle anyways).

Yes, but thats not what I meant.

If you take a random sample of 1000 women, and look at preference, and you find something to be statistically significant, the term "statistically significant" doesnt mean it has to be a huge amount of people, is what I'm trying to say. As in, it can be statistically significant while a large amount of women have a different preference.

When you look at 3.5 billion people in total, you will easily find several hundred million that dont adhere to the factor thats statistically significant. This applies to medicine, and any other science. The large number of people will guarantee a huge variation, just because its so large. Like I already said, you often find a gender skew when you compare them, but the sheer amount of people means theres a lot of different variations. Not everyone is the same. Which I'm sure you agree.

I am not cherry picking something arbitrary, women marrying up is commonly shown to be a huge problem for men at the bottom. In social sciences its considered to be one of the most significant factors determining childless men (to a lesser extent more and more men choosing to not have children). I mentioned that factor because its extremely important, not at all arbitrary. Which is why since the 70s the amount of childless men has more than doubled. You can pin point it to where women started to increase their own status in terms of education and income. And when you analyze womens preference for men, education and income is on average always at the same level or higher than their own. For men there is no such correlation seen.

I agree with the marriage thing but looking at the separation of sex and relationships thats coming to our culture (open relationships, casual sex) and the fact that more and more children are coming from short term relationships rather than marriage nowadays (the rise in single mothers), looks are becoming more and more the sexual gatekeeper. So while i agree that not all women have the same sexual preferences i think anything statistically significant is still to be regarded as important.

Less and less people marry in modern times because there is less point in doing so (marriage was a financial thing initially, and women didnt have their own income). More people stay together without getting married. And more women leave men who dont make them happy because they are financially independent, whereas 50 years ago you were stuck regardless of how he treated you.

Go back to the earlier days and youll find people often had children quite quickly then as well, but married immediately (now its very common to be in a relationship for years before procreating, at least among the highly educated, so the age at where we have our first child has increased a LOT. Above 30 for women now, on AVERAGE).

We have a larger variation in the types of relationships that exist today because its not as taboo to not be cookie cut. There is less pressure to marry and have children at 20, if any pressure at all. No one bats an eye if you are gay or single at 27. Go to other cultures, and you are considered to be an unmarriable fuckup if you are 27 and single (not sure if thats a good thing, honestly).

But sure, something being statistically significant is absolutely important (and women marrying up is among the most significant factors of our time). But its just as important to not fall in to the very human trap of believing everyone is the same. Our brains are hardwired to overgeneralize and judge to the point of stupidity. Its why we are sexist, racist, and so on. Its just so easy to justify by misinterpreting statistics. Which most people do.

The way this subreddit views women, statistics and anecdotes, is not much different from what you will observe among neonazis. And its very human. Everyone does this, some are just more extreme than others.

You need to yell in a relationship once in a while. To a lot of women this is basically saying "I like it when my man isn't afraid of me". What do you not like about her statement?

Lack of empathy is the recurrent theme.

If you dont understand human beings at all, jokes like this will make you mad. And it is a joke/hyperbole. People dont literally like to be yelled at. Its not a turnon.

If you dont understand human beings at all, jokes like this will make you mad.

Like you get mad at roastie memes?

The roastie memes that are blatant jokes are funny.

There are a lot of really funny jokes at incel subs. The jokes arent the problem.

Also its quite weird that you adress all non-incels as being the same person.

But I suppose non-incels do that to incels too.

I read your first line and wanted to answer with your second line. You’re right.

I suppose we can agree that people are often terrible.

And you probably suffer more from that than most people.

I do feel for you all, I really do.

If roastie memes brightens youe day, go for it. What worries me is when it in some people spirals in to a very consuming hate and ends in complete dehumanizing (complete lack of empathy). As in, I worry about its effect on their own mental health. Its a very common phaenomena, a very human thing to do, but very self destructive (it very rarely impacts anyone else). At the same time I understand some people reach the point where they wouldnt care about that. And its sad to see.

I like to read here because I like to observe the behaviour and to understand it. But its quite painful to watch. There are some tortured human beings on here.

No need to feel for me there are lots of others on this subreddit in lot worse situations. I was already in a relationship once, and even though I have no good chances of scoring one again, I’d rather be single than the second (or rather fourteenth) choice of a woman who already had her share of Chads. I didn’t work all my life to get divorce-raped and have my kids taken away from me.

Unless of course we will have more man-friendly divorce laws. But that’s another story.

I collectively feel bad for all of you, for being driven here. Some are worse off than others of course.

I agree. The divorce laws in the US are insane. Less insane in europe, but men are proper at the mercy of the mother if they have children here as well. It shouldnt be like that. But there are many happy relationships. I hope you dont give up entirely. Or at least if you do, that you are happy being alone. Most people arent. A few are.

Mind you, you wouldnt be "fourteenth choice". People grow apart and break up all the time, that doesnt mean the next partner is the next choice below. Its very unusual to have a perfect match the first time around, especially because we grow and mature a lot up until our mid twenties. Its trial and error trying to find a good match.

For me the problem is, I wasn’t good enough for women when I was a poor teenager living in a single bedroom apartment with my mom. I wasn’t good enough for women when I went to college and worked at the same time, often working plus studying 60-80 hours a week. The first time someone felt I was good enough for her was when I was 24 and was earning more than double of the average salary here.

At the time I would have needed human contact the most, I didn’t have anybody. Women simply didn’t care, because I am not good-looking enough. If they didn’t want me then, why would they want me now or 10 years from now? The only thing that has changed is my societal status, I’m still the same person as I was at 14.

Some women are vapid, superficial cunts.

Others are not.

I see women date poor male students all the time.

But I understand where you are coming from. I wouldnt want to be in a situation where someone was dating me for my money either, where they wouldnt have given me the time of day prior to it.

But I remain convinced its possible to size people up for who and what they really are.

Of course they date poor students. Good-looking poor students. Most women, especially at that age aren’t gold diggers. I’m just questioning the motives of those (hypothetical) women who would get together with 30 year old me, but not 16 year old me. What’s the difference besides money?

No, they date average looking poor students too for sure.

What the difference is? Any number of things. Maturity, for one. In both you and the women.

Its not all about looks or money (not for most people anyway).

Yea, I’m really below average. But the maturity you’re talking about in other words is that they really liked their previous boyfriends, but they broke up with them because of something, and now they are seeking a beta provider. They don’t really love those beta providers the way they loved their boyfriends in their teens.

My dad was a beta provider (a shitty one at that of course, he was also poor too, but without him my mother would have landed on the streets) and I can see that she didn’t really love him. She just needed a place to stay with my half-brother.

Why do you let your past dictate your future? Let go of your ego and move on man. Let yourself be happy. If you think women are looking for a beta provider then who is forcing you to provide? Keep separate bank accounts, treat her as much as she treats you, don't marry if you don't want to.

If all you see in women your own age is that 16 year old girl that didn't return your affections then how can you ever claim to be seeing a woman for who she is? You're just projecting your past failings on every woman you come across, and not giving anyone a chance to show who they are.

This is a hypothetical scenario. I’m not 30 years old, IDK what will happen to me then or if women will want to be with me more when I get there. What I do know is that women don’t like me for myself. Nothing will change that. Subsequently if a woman shows interest, that means she wants something that I earned along the way.

This is just what I think, I might be wrong. You may reason with “women’s desires are not uniform”, but they kind of are, every study has shown that they like the same kind of guy.

I reason that in an ideal world we would all fuck big tittied supermodels with a perfect peach of an ass. I think girls would love to have a girthy 8 inch cock attached to an adonis of a man with a square jaw that could chisel concrete.

In reality, there just aren't enough of them to go around are there? In the end, you either believe that you don't need to be a perfect person to be perfect for someone, or you resent the fact you are not chad and just give up.

I wasn’t good enough for anyone, not only supermodels. When I was 16, I was in love with a small breasted girl who also happened to have a very slight moustache. Even after that I never went for the best-looking girl I saw. I still was alone.

Please don’t fall for the “incels are alone because they only go after straight 10s” meme

Nah that's not what i meant mate. Just that if a girl ever did show you interest you don't need to question why she isn't with someone better looking.

Of course I have to question that, that makes me a thinking human. My previous girlfriend for example was with me because she was just getting over her previous relationship, and needed someone so that she could feel better about herself. Not because she was so incredibly attracted to me.

Lmao, what went wrong with female evolution?😂

My advice to people on this sub No need to change yourself to an asshole Be happy with who you are If we don't get appreciation for being genuine human being beings so be it Modern females are disgusting & they don't deserve us

we know that duh we are just highlight female nature

The prerequisite is that the man is handsome. Her pussy will be happy either way if he meets the prerequisites

to beta: DID YOU SERIOUSLY JUST LOOK AT ME? DON'T YOU STARE-RAPE ME! RAAAAAAAAAPE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE!

to chad: OOoooohn choke me daddy spit in my mouth!

This is the type of guy my ex gf left me for.

My bad, apologies. Im lowiq

Okay, thats your opinion. I do think youre overreacting since im not attacking you like you are to me.

But i can understand your stance on kink. Some people can’t wrap their minds around it and see it as abuse and of course abuse is bad so people are against that.

Didn't you hear? There's also a new kink where black people love to be consensually lynched. Of course that isn't batshit insane and degenerate.

Ok. Fly to Heathrow and await my instructions.

the reality is right here. You just don't like it.

Then there is hope yet.

Your brain isnt fully developed for another few years.

Right. Good luck with your future relationships.