It's true. You guys are all about the minuscule variations in facial features, but body language will screw you over quicker than 2mm of nose length.
Your responses in DMs will also give an indication, based on how keen you come across, language choices, what you're focussed on asking about and so on.
I do think many women like the potential abusers because they shoe signs of being super alpha. Just look at 50 shades. Women were kind of into being helpless under a dominant man. Even with abuse.
Gawd. Don't go there with that book. I despise it. So many women now see the abuse in that as just harmless BDSM, when real BDSM is much more of an equal relationship, with rigid rules about safe words and stuff. From what I've read about it, she's a spineless waste of space, and he's a complete cunt.
If anything, money just appears to amplify the effect from looks. I guess in case of fetishes it's more of a "status" thing. If you have enough leverage, then you could engage in things that the wide society considers "degenerate".
Not all of them. And the early signs cannot always be seen by the person in the relationship with them if the abuser is a narcissist, an emotional abuser or a manipulator. Those people take their time grooming their victims, to the point where the victims refuse to believe their friends when they tell them they are being abused.
Even some of the violent ones start off as being totally lovely people, and then go through stages, eroding their victims till the victim believes they are deserving of the beatings.
Abusive relationships is one of the areas I am fairly conversant with.
Bullshit. The first time an ugly guy does something abusive to a woman he would be instantly dumped and have the cops called on him. If chad does it its just that "he is so emotionally manipulative teehee".
Not true. The fact is that long term abuse is not the domain of just handsome men. You'll find there are a lot of plain men and the less attractive are the ones more likely to abuse their partners, because controlling them means they don't have to get a new partner every month.
the less attractive are the ones more likely to abuse their partners
Ok this is a standard inceltears belief but is absolutely and totally wrong. This is also the belief that everyone here makes fun of when they talk about "personality".
You literally just said ugly guys are likely to be abusive. Where do I even start on that? Its such a ridiculous idea.
This is absolutely not true. My friends are all Chads and they treat their girls horribly. Verbal and even physical abuse is common. Yet I would never do such a thing because I'll be too scared of her leaving me.
Wait,youre the same girl who agreed with me when I said Chads are more abusive than ugly guys.
Ahahaha ahahaha. I'd kill to get 1% of the attention those guys get. Girls don't lump me with anyone. They literally do not pay me any attention at all.
And what then. I'll be just as invisible as I was before. Anyways, thats besides the point. The point is they can cheat, hurt and be as abusive as they want and yet they all have girlfriends. I'd never treat a girl like that. Yet I'm alone.
At least I'm aware of my retardery. You seem to think you know all the answers concerning people you've never met and have never even actually tried understanding in this forum.
I tried. I got a load of old horseshit from morons like you. Thus I can say with certainty that you don't want any understanding. You just want to sit and whine.
That's how I feel whenever I talk to you. Aren't you the woman who told us to that "it's ok to just be friends with women, you don't have to pursue anything else" and when I told you about how I am attracted to all women and so that would be torturous to me you replied with your life story about how I don't know how many of your male friends are attracted to you and how you wonder how many more are attracted to you tee hee?
... my point being that you are blind to our struggles and when directly confronted with them, you deflect instead of accepting that we are in a very bad position and that your attempts at solving our problems don't work.
I'm not blind. I have in fact been learning a lot (from ones who actually post sense instead of just misogynistic garbage, piss-poor biology, and frankly awful anatomy).
As for attempting to solve your problems? Maybe some things will work for some people, but just not you, but all I get is heckling and abuse from people like you, because you have nothing else to offer anyone.
but all I get is heckling and abuse from people like you, because you have nothing else to offer anyone.
Lol, mighty rich. ever think that all you get is heckling and abuse because we are tired of the bullshit people like you spout? Of course not, you are perfectly amazing and never wrong, and thus any type of criticism that comes from us indicates that we have terrible personalities, not that you are a know it all cunt giving advice on matters that you've never dealt with that has the gall to get upset when called out after insulting us from inside our community.
Look at all the things you and other people say about us. How in the world do you expect incels not to be hostile towards outsiders like you? Are you dense? Do you actually literally lack the ability to empathize, or are you just choosing not to do it? I have a feeling it's the latter.
You again? I'm beginning to think you're stalking me.
Stop being immature. Jesus Christ I can't even have a conversation with you without you trying to shame me while ignoring all my arguments. Aren't you supposed to be the rational one of the two of us? Isnt the incel supposed to be the one that ignores your arguments? You are not gonna see my weaseling out of conversations without addressing the main points of the person that disagrees with me.
I assure you, I am respectful to everybody that I interact with as long as they show respect to me. The fact that I am not respectful towards you is not a me issue, it shows that I am perceiving you as somebody not worthy of my respect because of the way you treat me and other incels you have no problem over generalising.
I mean, do you actually think I'm an asshole to everybody I interact with? If so, I assure you you are quite simply wrong. Even though there's a lot of turmoil inside me, I still treat people right, as long as they deserve it.
Finally, let me just point out the obvious and say that you've been replying to me too. For you to come out and reply to me with something like this, it's just shameful. Absolutely intellectually dishonest. You should be ashamed of yourself for writing something like that.
Now, did I just waste my efforts on an actual dumb cunt that's unwilling to empathize with incels because you were insulted a few times? Or are you actually able to reason and are capable of picking up what I'm saying here?
If you don't reply with actual arguments and understanding then there's no reason for you to be here, is there? I'm sure you tell yourself that you want to understand and help incels or some bs. This convo can keep going and there can be real understanding here. If you choose to attempt to shame me in reply to this, that'll show your true intentions.
Tbh, how full of yourself do you have to be to rationalize that you being insulted means that those who insulted you act like that in all scenarios, rather than realising that maybe they're insulting you for (what some would argue are) valid reasons?
Right from the get-go, you've been a right little shit to me, so I have no clue why you think you are worthy of me being anything else back. All you do is try to shame me, and then try and make it the other way around. It doesn't work though.
I'm actually quite happy to talk to incels, to learn new stuff, apologise when I'm wrong, and so on, but all I get from you is insults. You don't treat people right, no matter what you think, because you've never managed even the slightest hint of politeness towards me.
I take the insults, and I really don't care, because frankly there are worse things going on in my life than the judgement of a bunch of anonymous people I will probably never meet. It all slides off like teflon, but yeah, I throw it back again. Just because you're a group of disaffected males doesn't give you the right to be obnoxious with impunity.
You don't treat people right, no matter what you think, because you've never managed even the slightest hint of politeness towards me.
so because I'm not polite to you, it means that I don't treat anybody right. wow. that's an extremely self centered way to perceive the world. I would never assume you go around life treating everybody with contempt just because you exhibit that behaviour to me and many others in this subreddit.
Tbh, how full of yourself do you have to be to rationalize that you being insulted means that those who insulted you act like that in all scenarios, rather than realising that maybe they're insulting you for (what some would argue are) valid reasons?
The reason I'm so hostile towards you is because I often see you posting lies in this subreddit as if they're fact, for example "You'll find there are a lot of plain men and the less attractive are the ones more likely to abuse their partners, because controlling them means they don't have to get a new partner every month." where's the data for that? how do you justify claiming that unattractive people are more likely to be abusers (while in a subreddit full of self proclaimed unattractive men, which means there could be something between the lines in what you said)? a quick google search tells me the opposite; that ugly people are more likely to be the targets of abusers.
You go around this sub arguing almost every single thing we say, and I don't think I've ever seen you admit to being wrong even when multiple people are pointing out logical inconsistencies.
If somebody tells you that he gets treated like trash, you tell him that it's because he thinks of himself as trash, which is a laughably simplistic way to look at such an issue. If somebody tells you how all his asshole friends get women all the time, you deflect and tell him to find better friends. If somebody tells you that being friends with women is not a good option because of the inevitable feelings we'll develop for them, you start talking about all your male friends that have feelings for you, deflecting once again. You go around saying that looks are completely subjective, defying billion dollar industries that are based on universally perceived standards of beauty. Do you think a significant amount of women find short men attractive? To this you'd probably reply that as long as the man makes up for his height with other qualities he'll be fine, which would only prove that you do believe that having a short height as a man is an unattractive feature, but I digress.
There are people that are obsessed with incels that are much worse than you, in the sense that they've completely abandoned reason and have decided to disagree with every single thing that any self proclaimed incel says, but you are most certainly not perfect.
I know I'm not perfect. Never claimed to be in my entire life. And yes, I have apologised for being wrong.
I like a good debate, so yes, I do argue some things. And yes, I do tell people to stop thinking of themselves as subhuman, because nobody here actually is subhuman.
all that being said, even though like I said you're not perfect (please save me the "idc about your opinion" thing), things would be better if people were more open minded, as you sometimes appear to be.
Why do you Normans say that foids are able to detect our "terrible" personalities because of what we post anonymously, but they aren't able to detect someone being abusive?
There's a difference when you first meet someone and when someone slowly ingrains things into you. It's called gaslighting. You should look it up, because men are as much victims of it as men, especially innocent ones.
No, you lot say that they can detect our personality based on the stuff we post anonymously online. And why do you think you know how any of us act irl?
Did I say they could detect what you say online under an alias? No. I said they can tell from directions in conversations you have with them online and they can tell from body language when you meet in real life.
Body language makes up 80% of your communication. You really ought to read up on it. It's a very interesting subject and you pay far more attention to the subliminal signals you send out when you know about it.
Mind telling us what the body language of a physically abusive incel looks like, seeing as you are an IRL incel expert? Btw, how many incels have you had the pleasure of talking to IRL?
What kind of abuser? There are several different subtypes...
The kind that incels are. You know, what you've been talking about ITT, about how people can tell incels are abusers just from body language alone.
I've spoken to a few before I even knew of the term.
You didn't talk to self described incels, you talked to virgins. Are all virgins abusers? Do all virgins exhibit the body language you were saying incels exhibit?
Don't bother answering, I'm obviously calling you out on your bullshit.
You are calling us abusers when you don't know a SINGLE one of us. Trying to talk sense into you is clearly a pointless effort.
You're thick as mince. I did not say incels were abusers. There is a certain type of person who becomes an abuser, and while some may be incels, there are others who are not, some who are heterosexual, some who are homosexual, some who are male, some who are female.
Incels were incels before someone came up with the name, just like apples were apples, gold was gold and thick people were thick people.
You really are testing my patience with your stupidity.
You're thick as mince. I did not say incels were abusers.
You didn't outright say so, but when another person confronted you about how people say we are incels because of our personality even though they date abusers, you replied that it's because we are not subtle unlike other abusers, which means you do think a significant amount of us are abusers.
Why can't they detect that someone is an abuser, but they can allegedly detect that we have "terrible" personalities?
Your response:
Because abusers are subtle and hide their abusive sides. You guys are about as subtle as a truck.
Thus implying that you have terrible personalities that are easy to spot. Someone with a terrible personality is not necessarily also an abuser. Sometimes they're just selfish, or rude, or ignorant, or misogynistic, or foul-mouthed, or obsessed with sex, or a load of other things that don't constitute abuse in a relationship but make you noticeable as not really boyfriend material.
You are right, but still wrong. If an incel have a conversation about... whatever that's not related to hating women, then his body language won't tell the woman that he hates women. You can't tell from body language that someone is a misogynist if it's a normal conversation, not even related to gender discussion
It depends on the direction of the conversation, how he responds to her comments and so on. Misogyny is one of those things that's hard to hide.
But that's the thing... How many here are really misogynists, and how many are just bitter about the women who rejected them and not women as a whole? That's not misogyny. It's just frustrations, and they won't be apparent to someone the incel is not frustrated with... Do you follow?
You talk a big game, but frankly, it's all a big front for the most part. That's not a criticism by the way, unless you really want to think you're a misogynist?
That's very specific. And I figure that this irl conversation need to be quite long for someone to pick up that someone is misogynist just through body language and the responds to her comments. I think you greatly overestimate how much both women and men can pick up on these things. Not everyone has read up on these things as you have.
I agree, I just used a woman-hating incel in this case because that's what the thread is about. I think that the majority here don't hate women, just how society and the dating world works.
I don't feel like a misogynist and do not really aspire to be one. I just don't like this idea that the majority of women that doesn't match with the incels on tinder, or decline/ignore them in real life are doing it because they can see and read social clues that the incel might be a misogynist. I think that the people that spreads this idea, mostly IT in this case, truly overestimate how incels act in real life, and how much women can pick up these things so easily.
Women pick up on small things here and there, but it's not necessarily misogyny. Some of it may well be inexperience, and shallow girls are stupid enough not to realise that virgin = someone you can teach to do things exactly how you want things done.
There's no accounting for the youth of today. Shallow, vapid, stupid and needing to grow up and realise that looks aren't everything.
Holy shit, stop with this. Stop being intellectually dishonest. Your actual argument here is that women reading body language as misogynistic is more likely than women simply percieving more attractive men as less misogynistic.
That is SO FUCKING STUPID. You're either trolling or an idiot.
It can. Use google. I'm not a fucking uni lecturer here. I don't get paid to teach you guys everything. I am not your mother spoon feeding you knowledge. Stop being a lazy fuckwit.
Did I say they could detect what you say online under an alias? No.
You lot from IT say that.
I said they can tell from directions in conversations you have with them online and they can tell from body language when you meet in real life.
Do incels have some specific body language that makes then different from everyone else? Well then why are there so many foids who say they're afraid of incels? They can just detect our body language and avoid us, right? Just like people detected the Toronto attacker's body language and stopped him, right? Oh wait... They didn't. It looks like you can't tell based off of body language.
I act, behave and talk like a completely normal person when i'm not on an incel sub. If I were to log on one of my alts and talk to you, you'd have never guessed that i'm an incel. Literally nobody I have ever interacted with online ever guessed that I am an incel. So please tell me more about how you can tell from the way I behave online. Why is it only attractive guys that can be subtle?
I'm not from IT. How many fucking times do you want that said?
You never told me you aren't from IT. You come in here with a holier than thou attitude and you bully us. Which is exactly what IT does. Is it surprising that people assume you're an IT cuck when you behave the same way they do?
I know there have to be rational women out there but I've never encountered any on reddit. Are women just not self aware? I know it's not an intelligence thing but I think I read somewhere men are more logical that's why they're better at math and women are better at being nurses because they're more emotional so it could be that.
Do you question yourself from time to time? Like ever rethink your belief system? I'm not sexist I'm just trying to figure this shit out.
I often rethink what I believe based on new evidence that is presented.
For instance, I came here thinking incels were the "nice guys" in fedoras that were creepy and didn't know the meaning of the word no, who expected women to fall at their feet because they were being "gentlemen" (and I use that term lightly here because they weren't). I now know that incels are (mostly) younger guys who have been marginalised by shallow women, bullied, laughed at and rejected when they try to get a girlfriend. And not usually politely either.
I'm a lot more aware of abuse and abusers than I used to be, and I am more aware of the reasons women stay, why women date known abusers, why men are less likely to stay in abusive relationships, but that they are still abused more often than people would like to think.
I like reading. If something piques my curiosity, I will read up on it.
Bro honestly you're bitching about incels a lot for a "normal" person. Not judging, but you seem like an emotionally immature person. Not saying I'm a winner, but you sure as fuck aren't either.
Bro honestly you're bitching about women a lot for a normal "person." Not judging, but you seem like an emotionally immature person. Not saying I'm a winner, but you sure as fuck aren't either.
That'd be a fair criticism if I was, but c'mon bro, you spend five to six hours a day on this subreddit, do you even read it or do you just make up shit that we say in your head?
I'm sorry you weren't popular in high school but most of us weren't. Taking it out on incels is just as dumb as whining about women all day which is "emotionally immature" as you said.
The fact is personality matters and helps with getting women because we've seen it countless times in real life. Whether personality is the problem with every single incel here we have no idea. But if you are one of the people here who claim that personality doesn't matter then it's a pretty big sign that your personality is shit. Even a lot of incels admit that personality matters, then they say they can't have a good personality because they were bullied. Because the whole basis of inceldom is blaming all your problems on everyone else.
Looks matter way more than personality does. Someone attractive will get away with a lot of shit that ugly dudes don't, even when approaching women. There are many women who have said that they didn't see the warning signs when they came from attractive dudes. But were able to when it came from ugly ones.
Personalty matters, but personalty alone wont get you a gf. Looks are much more important than you IT cucks say.
The other issue is the average incel seems to think that a good personality just means you don't beat your girlfriend or treat them bad. When it really means knowing how to talk to people and interact with them in a way that makes them like you and want to be around them. We're not saying women detect your bad personality, we're saying you're probably boring to be around or at best neutral.
So men who beat the crap out women aren't misogynists? Why aren't misogynists subtle? What is about misogyny that is so obvious? Can you explain how theredpill users manage to date women seeing as they are misogynists? If you want to fuck a woman, the last thing you'll do is project misogyny. It's pretty easy to hide, like all opinions people have.
And some women think that he will change, and he was only like that because she made him, and she was just a psycho who got what she deserved, because he's spun some sort of "woe is me" tale about how horrible she was etc etc... seen it.
Except he was decent looking and successful, most incels are neither of those things and have no personality on top of it. Of course this has been explained to you a million times but you don't care about the truth.
You need at least one of those 3 things or other things. Incels have nothing. They could if they worked at it but they only want to make excuses and blame everyone else.
Moving the goalposts now are we. Looks and success are the two fundamental determinant of attraction, personality determines long term compatibility. Most people can't be in a relationship without sexual attraction.
Yeah, because sexual attraction is all about compensation. That's totally how it works. It's a formula.
Personality(5) + Looks(3) + Success(4) = Sexual Attraction value for fibmales.
It's totally not, "he's hot, I would let him rape me." No, fibmales are rational creatures who do the aforementioned formula in their head to form sexual attraction.
I consider myself very high standards and never really was attracted to Rihanna (infact I didnât see what people found attractive of her) till i saw the video of her bowing to king james (first time seeing her in a non music video) and Iâll say looksmaxx sheâs at least an 8
Cope what? Millions of people think he's a shit for what he did but at the end of the day she chose to forgive him so it's on them to navigate their relationship.
He rocked her shit. In the police report it says that he pulled her hair and slammed her face around the car, and then rammed her face into the seat while just punching her in the head/sides of the face for like 2 minutes straight.
oh no he flew into a fit of rage and beat her after she threw his phone out the car windows during a verbal fight. I mean, couples fight and RiRi doesn't strike me as a passive, quiet woman, so I do think she started some of the beef that night, but he was the one that did the savage beating. There is no reason to lose it like he did and just rain blow after blow of your karate-hardened fists on a smaller, weaker person's unprotected face. I don't care how much of a bitch she was to him, he should have just made her get out the car and walk like a pleb if the fight was that personal.
Also had it in my mind that chris was just mad and hit her once probably before saying sorry profusely. Was fucking shocked when i read the police report recently
And women still want to sleep and date these types of guys! Itâs so frustrating when youâre constantly told âitâs all about personality! Looks mean nothingâ. Chris Brown has had several girlfriends after this incident so donât tell me looks mean nothing
because his personality is attractive. people are saying that you need to have an attractive personality, which is true. they're not saying that you need to have a morally righteous personality.
But it is. That's what you're not getting. If he acted like a cringey, shy, awkward nerd with no confidence and had the body language, facial expressions, posture, style, and grooming habits to match then he would be far less attractive to women than he is because he beats women. Some women simply don't care about that.
Here we see the typical moral relativist feminist and neckbeard. Be wary of these men, roasties, for with moral relativism they can justify their attempt to rape you.
Well, you sound like we could be great friends. What you were saying about good vs evil sounded very much like moral relativism. I believe there are inherent and innate universal morals that any sentient being in this universe abides by, the counter examples are only exceptions.
The point that you numbers are totally missing, as usual, is that it's not being violent, or misogynist, or a potential abuser that are the facets of your personalities that drive women a way from you. Most of those things don't show up until people get to know each other a bit (so this actually will be what is driving away intelligent women that spend Any time- presumably unwillingly- with you).
It's that you are boring, whiny, humorless monomaniacs. No one likes that shit bro.
Dont forget you're also far inferior in terms of how much happiness you get out of life (none) how many peoples loves you've impacted for the better (none) or how long you're likely to live (get roped).
I love how you presume to know how many lives I've "impacted" (affected) for the better...like you know enough about me to make such a sweeping statement about my 33 years on this planet.
When you see a man so angry, bitter and full of venom as you are it is not hard to extrapolate that. People with extremely negative world views like yours are miserable people who going hating everyone else, not helping them.
Not really. Any women who fucked him since the incident know he has a bad personality. And since our bad personalities keep us incel it should be the same with attractive guys, right?
I know that you're a woman but just try to use logic. I'm not being sexist it's just fact that men are generally good at logic and women are empathetic and socially astute.
âI know I can never make up for how I treated her, but Iâm trying to turn my life around.â
You realize that emotional manipulation is still a thing right? Thatâs how men who are known abusers get into relationships again and again and again.
And yeah, you are being sexist. You realize that youâre over simplifying outdated science right?
Stop moving the goal posts. I literally answered your question for you twice already. Youâre just gonna try and turn this into a pointless argument about semantics otherwise.
It's easier to explain than you think, he doesn't have a shitty personality, he is a shitty person, which is different at least of what we are talking about.
Guy is rich, probably attractive, and probably has an alluring personality, so a lot of girls will go "But he has change/He loves me/My love will change him" than bam! they get their shit kicked out of them.
Now the "horrible personality" is one that is boring, creepy, insecure, etc. So no alluring at all.
That is the mistake you do a lot, you tend to group a lot of things together.
For example, imagine we were talking about winning a fight, what you are thinking would match "You mean that fighting to defend others is worse than being a skilled fighter?"
No, acting abusive towards every girl will only get you to end up as an ass and probably even beat up. It is about adquiring the other qualities that will make you attractive.
Now I won't try to fool you, some girls do love being treated like trash, but usually is by that guy that is or at least is perceived as a badass, if a creepy motherfucker tried it he would only get problems. Also it would give you problems if you are looking for a long term relationship, since usually girls with no selfsteem issues will usually ditch you. People have limits.
You see, that is another mistakes you tend to do here, you don't know to what extent a fact proves something.
Nope, I've seen ugly guys doing it and getting away with it.
Things are more complex than that, there are more variables in play. But even if that were true, and only handsome people could get away with it, it would not prove anything else besides that. And even there it would really make no sense to be even discussing this thing, since you ain't a fucking brad pitt it doesn't matter what could you do or don't if you were, right?
Exactly. And that's where we come back to again. You can do literally anything as a good looking guy and get girls meanwhile even looking at girls as an ugly guy is considered harassment.
Why do you Normans say that foids are able to detect our "terrible" personalities because of what we post anonymously, but they aren't able to detect someone being abusive?
I often rethink what I believe based on new evidence that is presented.
For instance, I came here thinking incels were the "nice guys" in fedoras that were creepy and didn't know the meaning of the word no, who expected women to fall at their feet because they were being "gentlemen" (and I use that term lightly here because they weren't). I now know that incels are (mostly) younger guys who have been marginalised by shallow women, bullied, laughed at and rejected when they try to get a girlfriend. And not usually politely either.
I'm a lot more aware of abuse and abusers than I used to be, and I am more aware of the reasons women stay, why women date known abusers, why men are less likely to stay in abusive relationships, but that they are still abused more often than people would like to think.
I like reading. If something piques my curiosity, I will read up on it.
What kind of abuser? There are several different subtypes...
The kind that incels are. You know, what you've been talking about ITT, about how people can tell incels are abusers just from body language alone.
I've spoken to a few before I even knew of the term.
You didn't talk to self described incels, you talked to virgins. Are all virgins abusers? Do all virgins exhibit the body language you were saying incels exhibit?
Don't bother answering, I'm obviously calling you out on your bullshit.
You are calling us abusers when you don't know a SINGLE one of us. Trying to talk sense into you is clearly a pointless effort.
At least I'm aware of my retardery. You seem to think you know all the answers concerning people you've never met and have never even actually tried understanding in this forum.
Bro honestly you're bitching about women a lot for a normal "person." Not judging, but you seem like an emotionally immature person. Not saying I'm a winner, but you sure as fuck aren't either.
That is the mistake you do a lot, you tend to group a lot of things together.
For example, imagine we were talking about winning a fight, what you are thinking would match "You mean that fighting to defend others is worse than being a skilled fighter?"
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1 MagratM 2018-05-08
I bet you he came across as all lovely and caring, protective and manly when they first started dating too...
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-08
so?
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
So you can't always tell whether someone is going to beat you up when you first meet them.
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-08
i guess only women can sense an incel's perosnality.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
I think you'll find it's attitude and body language that will give you away before you open your mouth.
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-08
sure thing LOL.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
It's true. You guys are all about the minuscule variations in facial features, but body language will screw you over quicker than 2mm of nose length.
Your responses in DMs will also give an indication, based on how keen you come across, language choices, what you're focussed on asking about and so on.
1 mazafakaaaa 2018-05-08
You know what conveys who you are 1000x better than "body language"? The things you actually say and do.
The "body language is 80% of communication" bullshit is one of the most retarded idea spread on internet.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
And yet it's taught in communication lessons...
1 mazafakaaaa 2018-05-08
How about you get a real education instead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dboA8cag1M
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
How about I can't be bothered watching whatever video you have decided to link?
It's too hot, I'm too tired, and you are too insignificant right about now.
1 mazafakaaaa 2018-05-08
How nice of you. You would have learned something but whatever.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
No one here gives a crap about anything I say or cares to learn anything. Why should I bother?
1 trevmon 2018-05-08
just use chris brown body language bro
1 NetscapeNavigator9 2018-05-08
Dance up to a woman and punch her in the face?
1 trevmon 2018-05-08
over for banned netscape navigator cels
1 Joemo55 2018-05-08
I do think many women like the potential abusers because they shoe signs of being super alpha. Just look at 50 shades. Women were kind of into being helpless under a dominant man. Even with abuse.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Gawd. Don't go there with that book. I despise it. So many women now see the abuse in that as just harmless BDSM, when real BDSM is much more of an equal relationship, with rigid rules about safe words and stuff. From what I've read about it, she's a spineless waste of space, and he's a complete cunt.
1 Joemo55 2018-05-08
Exactly. But it still turns millions of women on. Showing that they are subconsciously attracted to abusive assholes
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
And if it was written about a guy who lived in a trailer park and did the same thing, it would be a horror.
Money and looks seems to override a lot of women's ability to be sensible. It's depressing.
1 trevmon 2018-05-08
if it's chad in a trailer park they'd be down for it
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
And you're still an idiot. I thought you might have improved, but no. Oh well.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-08
Looks. Money is just an excellent bonus in case of Christopher Gray.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
It generally requires the veneer of money to really get people hooked.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-08
If anything, money just appears to amplify the effect from looks. I guess in case of fetishes it's more of a "status" thing. If you have enough leverage, then you could engage in things that the wide society considers "degenerate".
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
The whole "I have a helicopter" seems to trump "I want to thrash you till you bleed and ignore it when you say the safe word" apparently.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-08
I'm pretty sure we're both conjecturing at this point.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Oh, probably. I've never managed to date a rich guy. Suck is life. I'd still not let him talk me into a 50-shades scenario.
1 trevmon 2018-05-08
deep down you love that book
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Never read it, never going to.
1 Soiled_Bugman 2018-05-08
Abusers tend to actually show signs of abuse early on. Women just don't care and will risk being abused if the guy has good looks or status.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Not all of them. And the early signs cannot always be seen by the person in the relationship with them if the abuser is a narcissist, an emotional abuser or a manipulator. Those people take their time grooming their victims, to the point where the victims refuse to believe their friends when they tell them they are being abused.
Even some of the violent ones start off as being totally lovely people, and then go through stages, eroding their victims till the victim believes they are deserving of the beatings.
Abusive relationships is one of the areas I am fairly conversant with.
1 Soiled_Bugman 2018-05-08
Bullshit. The first time an ugly guy does something abusive to a woman he would be instantly dumped and have the cops called on him. If chad does it its just that "he is so emotionally manipulative teehee".
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Not true. The fact is that long term abuse is not the domain of just handsome men. You'll find there are a lot of plain men and the less attractive are the ones more likely to abuse their partners, because controlling them means they don't have to get a new partner every month.
1 PM_ME_TENDIE_STORIES 2018-05-08
Ok this is a standard inceltears belief but is absolutely and totally wrong. This is also the belief that everyone here makes fun of when they talk about "personality".
You literally just said ugly guys are likely to be abusive. Where do I even start on that? Its such a ridiculous idea.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
I didn't say that. You have completely taken my comments out of context.
1 Incelvester 2018-05-08
You were saying?
1 bopoll 2018-05-08
She can't help it, her brain intrinsically links looks to personality. In her brain, ugly people are the enemy.
1 gufestus2 2018-05-08
This is absolutely not true. My friends are all Chads and they treat their girls horribly. Verbal and even physical abuse is common. Yet I would never do such a thing because I'll be too scared of her leaving me.
Wait,youre the same girl who agreed with me when I said Chads are more abusive than ugly guys.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Have yu thought about telling your friends to stop being complete arseholes?
1 gufestus2 2018-05-08
I have. It doesn't matter though. As long as their girlfriends like it, they'll continue doing it.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Then your friends are just making things harder for you. Nice friends.
1 gufestus2 2018-05-08
How are they making it harder? They get girls. I don't.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Because you hang out with a bunch of abusive guys so you automatically get lumped with them for any girl who might be interested.
1 gufestus2 2018-05-08
Ahahaha ahahaha. I'd kill to get 1% of the attention those guys get. Girls don't lump me with anyone. They literally do not pay me any attention at all.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Find new friends.
1 gufestus2 2018-05-08
And what then. I'll be just as invisible as I was before. Anyways, thats besides the point. The point is they can cheat, hurt and be as abusive as they want and yet they all have girlfriends. I'd never treat a girl like that. Yet I'm alone.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Find something else you can do to meet people then
1 gufestus2 2018-05-08
That's not the freaking point. Address the question I'm asking. Why are my friends, who're openly abusive get girls on the regular while I rot alone.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Ask the girls. I think they're fucking stupid, so I'm damned if I know why someone would go with a known abuser.
1 gufestus2 2018-05-08
Because they're good looking. That's it. That's the only reason.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
So tell them they're arseholes, tell their girlfriends they are thick for dating assholes, walk away and find better friends.
1 subhumanforever 2018-05-08
Because they're good looking. You femoids are fucking retarded.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Don't lump me in with the young and stupid.
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-08
Jesus, what a dumb cunt.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
And you're still using the name "retarded_dumbshit" and calling people names. The irony.
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-08
At least I'm aware of my retardery. You seem to think you know all the answers concerning people you've never met and have never even actually tried understanding in this forum.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Blah blah.
I tried. I got a load of old horseshit from morons like you. Thus I can say with certainty that you don't want any understanding. You just want to sit and whine.
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-08
So you were shutdown by some incels and thus you are now shutting all of them out. Nice logic.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
In this thread, aye. Why continue when I would be more successful talking to a wall at this point?
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-08
That's how I feel whenever I talk to you. Aren't you the woman who told us to that "it's ok to just be friends with women, you don't have to pursue anything else" and when I told you about how I am attracted to all women and so that would be torturous to me you replied with your life story about how I don't know how many of your male friends are attracted to you and how you wonder how many more are attracted to you tee hee?
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
You made me consider the possibility. It wasn't a "tee hee" moment at all, more of an "oh shit. I hope I'm not that person".
Ever considered that some of us actually care about other's feelings, or did that not cross your mind?
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-08
... my point being that you are blind to our struggles and when directly confronted with them, you deflect instead of accepting that we are in a very bad position and that your attempts at solving our problems don't work.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
I'm not blind. I have in fact been learning a lot (from ones who actually post sense instead of just misogynistic garbage, piss-poor biology, and frankly awful anatomy).
As for attempting to solve your problems? Maybe some things will work for some people, but just not you, but all I get is heckling and abuse from people like you, because you have nothing else to offer anyone.
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-08
Lol, mighty rich. ever think that all you get is heckling and abuse because we are tired of the bullshit people like you spout? Of course not, you are perfectly amazing and never wrong, and thus any type of criticism that comes from us indicates that we have terrible personalities, not that you are a know it all cunt giving advice on matters that you've never dealt with that has the gall to get upset when called out after insulting us from inside our community.
Look at all the things you and other people say about us. How in the world do you expect incels not to be hostile towards outsiders like you? Are you dense? Do you actually literally lack the ability to empathize, or are you just choosing not to do it? I have a feeling it's the latter.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
You again? I'm beginning to think you're stalking me.
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-08
Stop being immature. Jesus Christ I can't even have a conversation with you without you trying to shame me while ignoring all my arguments. Aren't you supposed to be the rational one of the two of us? Isnt the incel supposed to be the one that ignores your arguments? You are not gonna see my weaseling out of conversations without addressing the main points of the person that disagrees with me.
I assure you, I am respectful to everybody that I interact with as long as they show respect to me. The fact that I am not respectful towards you is not a me issue, it shows that I am perceiving you as somebody not worthy of my respect because of the way you treat me and other incels you have no problem over generalising.
I mean, do you actually think I'm an asshole to everybody I interact with? If so, I assure you you are quite simply wrong. Even though there's a lot of turmoil inside me, I still treat people right, as long as they deserve it.
Finally, let me just point out the obvious and say that you've been replying to me too. For you to come out and reply to me with something like this, it's just shameful. Absolutely intellectually dishonest. You should be ashamed of yourself for writing something like that.
Now, did I just waste my efforts on an actual dumb cunt that's unwilling to empathize with incels because you were insulted a few times? Or are you actually able to reason and are capable of picking up what I'm saying here?
If you don't reply with actual arguments and understanding then there's no reason for you to be here, is there? I'm sure you tell yourself that you want to understand and help incels or some bs. This convo can keep going and there can be real understanding here. If you choose to attempt to shame me in reply to this, that'll show your true intentions.
Tbh, how full of yourself do you have to be to rationalize that you being insulted means that those who insulted you act like that in all scenarios, rather than realising that maybe they're insulting you for (what some would argue are) valid reasons?
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Right from the get-go, you've been a right little shit to me, so I have no clue why you think you are worthy of me being anything else back. All you do is try to shame me, and then try and make it the other way around. It doesn't work though.
I'm actually quite happy to talk to incels, to learn new stuff, apologise when I'm wrong, and so on, but all I get from you is insults. You don't treat people right, no matter what you think, because you've never managed even the slightest hint of politeness towards me.
I take the insults, and I really don't care, because frankly there are worse things going on in my life than the judgement of a bunch of anonymous people I will probably never meet. It all slides off like teflon, but yeah, I throw it back again. Just because you're a group of disaffected males doesn't give you the right to be obnoxious with impunity.
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-08
so because I'm not polite to you, it means that I don't treat anybody right. wow. that's an extremely self centered way to perceive the world. I would never assume you go around life treating everybody with contempt just because you exhibit that behaviour to me and many others in this subreddit.
The reason I'm so hostile towards you is because I often see you posting lies in this subreddit as if they're fact, for example "You'll find there are a lot of plain men and the less attractive are the ones more likely to abuse their partners, because controlling them means they don't have to get a new partner every month." where's the data for that? how do you justify claiming that unattractive people are more likely to be abusers (while in a subreddit full of self proclaimed unattractive men, which means there could be something between the lines in what you said)? a quick google search tells me the opposite; that ugly people are more likely to be the targets of abusers.
You go around this sub arguing almost every single thing we say, and I don't think I've ever seen you admit to being wrong even when multiple people are pointing out logical inconsistencies.
If somebody tells you that he gets treated like trash, you tell him that it's because he thinks of himself as trash, which is a laughably simplistic way to look at such an issue. If somebody tells you how all his asshole friends get women all the time, you deflect and tell him to find better friends. If somebody tells you that being friends with women is not a good option because of the inevitable feelings we'll develop for them, you start talking about all your male friends that have feelings for you, deflecting once again. You go around saying that looks are completely subjective, defying billion dollar industries that are based on universally perceived standards of beauty. Do you think a significant amount of women find short men attractive? To this you'd probably reply that as long as the man makes up for his height with other qualities he'll be fine, which would only prove that you do believe that having a short height as a man is an unattractive feature, but I digress.
There are people that are obsessed with incels that are much worse than you, in the sense that they've completely abandoned reason and have decided to disagree with every single thing that any self proclaimed incel says, but you are most certainly not perfect.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
I know I'm not perfect. Never claimed to be in my entire life. And yes, I have apologised for being wrong.
I like a good debate, so yes, I do argue some things. And yes, I do tell people to stop thinking of themselves as subhuman, because nobody here actually is subhuman.
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-08
all that being said, even though like I said you're not perfect (please save me the "idc about your opinion" thing), things would be better if people were more open minded, as you sometimes appear to be.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
I'm open minded, but it tends to get buried under the abuse I get.
1 trevmon 2018-05-08
awalt
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Wrong.
1 Kar98kSnipe 2018-05-08
Except she forgave him and he still gets girls. Femoids are EVIL
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
There are still some out there who aren't completely stupid enough to fall for that sort of shit.
1 trevmon 2018-05-08
no there aren't
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Bet you a pound.
1 TrueLifeIncelStory 2018-05-08
Every female aged 15-29 wants Chris browns cock. Some will even want to be beaten by him like Rihanna was.
You're an old irrelevant roastie. You wouldn't understand our generation.
1 lanana_banana 2018-05-08
Then I'm telling you I agree with her completely and I'm 21. Still too old?
1 TrueLifeIncelStory 2018-05-08
If you're a 21 year old female (unlikely but lets just imagine) and you dont want chris browns cock, you are probably racist and hate black people.
1 lanana_banana 2018-05-08
Oh right, sorry, I just realized I'm a 65 year old male. Bye!
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
a 21 year old female on reddit
damn how ugly are you that snapchat filters and makeup can't obscure your deformities?
1 lanana_banana 2018-05-08
I already said I'm a 65 old man. I have multiple personalities ya know?
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
Why trolls virgins if you're a virgin... whatever man
1 trevmon 2018-05-08
nah she is into bdsm and wants a guy to beat her
a chad to beat her I should say
1 chillenyo2 2018-05-08
then dont be in HR
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
I don't.
1 celaway1696 2018-05-08
Why do you Normans say that foids are able to detect our "terrible" personalities because of what we post anonymously, but they aren't able to detect someone being abusive?
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
There's a difference when you first meet someone and when someone slowly ingrains things into you. It's called gaslighting. You should look it up, because men are as much victims of it as men, especially innocent ones.
1 celaway1696 2018-05-08
You didn't answer my question. Why can't they detect that someone is an abuser, but they can allegedly detect that we have "terrible" personalities?
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Because abusers are subtle and hide their abusive sides.
You guys are about as subtle as a truck.
1 celaway1696 2018-05-08
No, you lot say that they can detect our personality based on the stuff we post anonymously online. And why do you think you know how any of us act irl?
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Did I say they could detect what you say online under an alias? No. I said they can tell from directions in conversations you have with them online and they can tell from body language when you meet in real life.
1 kandwillu 2018-05-08
Online conversations yes, if you're talking about conversations on this subreddit.
Body language in real life? What the fuck are you talking about
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Body language makes up 80% of your communication. You really ought to read up on it. It's a very interesting subject and you pay far more attention to the subliminal signals you send out when you know about it.
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-08
Mind telling us what the body language of a physically abusive incel looks like, seeing as you are an IRL incel expert? Btw, how many incels have you had the pleasure of talking to IRL?
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
What kind of abuser? There are several different subtypes...
I've spoken to a few before I even knew of the term.
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-08
The kind that incels are. You know, what you've been talking about ITT, about how people can tell incels are abusers just from body language alone.
You didn't talk to self described incels, you talked to virgins. Are all virgins abusers? Do all virgins exhibit the body language you were saying incels exhibit?
Don't bother answering, I'm obviously calling you out on your bullshit.
You are calling us abusers when you don't know a SINGLE one of us. Trying to talk sense into you is clearly a pointless effort.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
You're thick as mince. I did not say incels were abusers. There is a certain type of person who becomes an abuser, and while some may be incels, there are others who are not, some who are heterosexual, some who are homosexual, some who are male, some who are female.
Incels were incels before someone came up with the name, just like apples were apples, gold was gold and thick people were thick people.
You really are testing my patience with your stupidity.
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-08
You didn't outright say so, but when another person confronted you about how people say we are incels because of our personality even though they date abusers, you replied that it's because we are not subtle unlike other abusers, which means you do think a significant amount of us are abusers.
Your response:
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Thus implying that you have terrible personalities that are easy to spot. Someone with a terrible personality is not necessarily also an abuser. Sometimes they're just selfish, or rude, or ignorant, or misogynistic, or foul-mouthed, or obsessed with sex, or a load of other things that don't constitute abuse in a relationship but make you noticeable as not really boyfriend material.
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-08
break dancing đđ
1 kandwillu 2018-05-08
You are right, but still wrong. If an incel have a conversation about... whatever that's not related to hating women, then his body language won't tell the woman that he hates women. You can't tell from body language that someone is a misogynist if it's a normal conversation, not even related to gender discussion
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
It depends on the direction of the conversation, how he responds to her comments and so on. Misogyny is one of those things that's hard to hide.
But that's the thing... How many here are really misogynists, and how many are just bitter about the women who rejected them and not women as a whole? That's not misogyny. It's just frustrations, and they won't be apparent to someone the incel is not frustrated with... Do you follow?
You talk a big game, but frankly, it's all a big front for the most part. That's not a criticism by the way, unless you really want to think you're a misogynist?
1 kandwillu 2018-05-08
That's very specific. And I figure that this irl conversation need to be quite long for someone to pick up that someone is misogynist just through body language and the responds to her comments. I think you greatly overestimate how much both women and men can pick up on these things. Not everyone has read up on these things as you have.
I agree, I just used a woman-hating incel in this case because that's what the thread is about. I think that the majority here don't hate women, just how society and the dating world works.
I don't feel like a misogynist and do not really aspire to be one. I just don't like this idea that the majority of women that doesn't match with the incels on tinder, or decline/ignore them in real life are doing it because they can see and read social clues that the incel might be a misogynist. I think that the people that spreads this idea, mostly IT in this case, truly overestimate how incels act in real life, and how much women can pick up these things so easily.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Women pick up on small things here and there, but it's not necessarily misogyny. Some of it may well be inexperience, and shallow girls are stupid enough not to realise that virgin = someone you can teach to do things exactly how you want things done.
There's no accounting for the youth of today. Shallow, vapid, stupid and needing to grow up and realise that looks aren't everything.
1 4bricks 2018-05-08
Body language?
Holy shit, stop with this. Stop being intellectually dishonest. Your actual argument here is that women reading body language as misogynistic is more likely than women simply percieving more attractive men as less misogynistic.
That is SO FUCKING STUPID. You're either trolling or an idiot.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
I feel you may be the idiot here.
1 bopoll 2018-05-08
He's the idiot, but you're saying that women can read the "body language" of ugly people but not the "body language" of attractive serial abusers?
This is too much
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Serial abusers are not always attractive. My sister married one. He's nothing to write home about.
Yes, I warned her. No, she didn't listen.
1 bopoll 2018-05-08
If only she could read his body language
1 4bricks 2018-05-08
The argument "women can sense misogyny through body language" can't be rationally defended. That's why you didn't. Fuck off now.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
It can. Use google. I'm not a fucking uni lecturer here. I don't get paid to teach you guys everything. I am not your mother spoon feeding you knowledge. Stop being a lazy fuckwit.
1 4bricks 2018-05-08
How about you just stop making shit up and get out of here, whore? Why is that so hard for women?
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
How about you go first.
1 4bricks 2018-05-08
Because: 1)I'm an incel 2)I'm not spouting stupid platitudes and trolling already depressed people
So basically who this sub was created for. Get it roastie?
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Do you know the actual meaning of the word "platitude"?
1 4bricks 2018-05-08
You're not even an entertaining troll. Just go home, roastie. Put that hamster to rest and go home.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
I wasn't aiming for either, but there you go. Sucks to be you that I care so little for your opinion.
1 celaway1696 2018-05-08
You lot from IT say that.
Do incels have some specific body language that makes then different from everyone else? Well then why are there so many foids who say they're afraid of incels? They can just detect our body language and avoid us, right? Just like people detected the Toronto attacker's body language and stopped him, right? Oh wait... They didn't. It looks like you can't tell based off of body language.
I act, behave and talk like a completely normal person when i'm not on an incel sub. If I were to log on one of my alts and talk to you, you'd have never guessed that i'm an incel. Literally nobody I have ever interacted with online ever guessed that I am an incel. So please tell me more about how you can tell from the way I behave online. Why is it only attractive guys that can be subtle?
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
I'm not from IT. How many fucking times do you want that said?
I really don't give a monkeys about the rest of your diatribe if you're not even going to get that one tiny little thing right.
1 celaway1696 2018-05-08
You never told me you aren't from IT. You come in here with a holier than thou attitude and you bully us. Which is exactly what IT does. Is it surprising that people assume you're an IT cuck when you behave the same way they do?
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
lmao he's in a relationship now
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
I already answered that one. You're repeating yourself.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
How'd he hide his abusive side if he already was shown to be abusive...
What, he hid the articles and pictures from his new girlfriend's eyes using his subtle ways?
I know rationality isn't on you side because of your gender handicap but pretend you're a man for a second.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
How about you read some of my other replies. I'm not repeating myself.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
I know there have to be rational women out there but I've never encountered any on reddit. Are women just not self aware? I know it's not an intelligence thing but I think I read somewhere men are more logical that's why they're better at math and women are better at being nurses because they're more emotional so it could be that.
Do you question yourself from time to time? Like ever rethink your belief system? I'm not sexist I'm just trying to figure this shit out.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
I often rethink what I believe based on new evidence that is presented.
For instance, I came here thinking incels were the "nice guys" in fedoras that were creepy and didn't know the meaning of the word no, who expected women to fall at their feet because they were being "gentlemen" (and I use that term lightly here because they weren't). I now know that incels are (mostly) younger guys who have been marginalised by shallow women, bullied, laughed at and rejected when they try to get a girlfriend. And not usually politely either.
I'm a lot more aware of abuse and abusers than I used to be, and I am more aware of the reasons women stay, why women date known abusers, why men are less likely to stay in abusive relationships, but that they are still abused more often than people would like to think.
I like reading. If something piques my curiosity, I will read up on it.
1 PM_ME_UR_SUSPICIONS 2018-05-08
The answer is simple. You're personality is more repulsive than a guy that literally beats women.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
Damn if beating women constitutes a good personality I think I'll stick to being myself.
1 PM_ME_UR_SUSPICIONS 2018-05-08
If you don't hide your true personality and pretend to be nicer you'll never find a woman to inevitably beat.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
What if the opposite happens though?
1 PM_ME_UR_SUSPICIONS 2018-05-08
You'll cry on the Internet about how stupid women are until the day you die.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
Bro honestly you're bitching about incels a lot for a "normal" person. Not judging, but you seem like an emotionally immature person. Not saying I'm a winner, but you sure as fuck aren't either.
1 PM_ME_UR_SUSPICIONS 2018-05-08
Bro honestly you're bitching about women a lot for a normal "person." Not judging, but you seem like an emotionally immature person. Not saying I'm a winner, but you sure as fuck aren't either.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
That'd be a fair criticism if I was, but c'mon bro, you spend five to six hours a day on this subreddit, do you even read it or do you just make up shit that we say in your head?
I'm sorry you weren't popular in high school but most of us weren't. Taking it out on incels is just as dumb as whining about women all day which is "emotionally immature" as you said.
1 fryxtz 2018-05-08
The fact is personality matters and helps with getting women because we've seen it countless times in real life. Whether personality is the problem with every single incel here we have no idea. But if you are one of the people here who claim that personality doesn't matter then it's a pretty big sign that your personality is shit. Even a lot of incels admit that personality matters, then they say they can't have a good personality because they were bullied. Because the whole basis of inceldom is blaming all your problems on everyone else.
1 celaway1696 2018-05-08
Looks matter way more than personality does. Someone attractive will get away with a lot of shit that ugly dudes don't, even when approaching women. There are many women who have said that they didn't see the warning signs when they came from attractive dudes. But were able to when it came from ugly ones.
Personalty matters, but personalty alone wont get you a gf. Looks are much more important than you IT cucks say.
1 fryxtz 2018-05-08
The other issue is the average incel seems to think that a good personality just means you don't beat your girlfriend or treat them bad. When it really means knowing how to talk to people and interact with them in a way that makes them like you and want to be around them. We're not saying women detect your bad personality, we're saying you're probably boring to be around or at best neutral.
1 celaway1696 2018-05-08
Nope. Saying that womyn can detect that we have "shitty" personalities based on what we post anonymously online is what IT cucks tell us.
And I get along with women as well as other men. I get invited out for drinks almost every week by female colleagues or friends.
1 blackwingsreef 2018-05-08
Which one is it!?
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
There's a difference. Abusers are subtle. Misogynists are not.
1 blackwingsreef 2018-05-08
So men who beat the crap out women aren't misogynists? Why aren't misogynists subtle? What is about misogyny that is so obvious? Can you explain how theredpill users manage to date women seeing as they are misogynists? If you want to fuck a woman, the last thing you'll do is project misogyny. It's pretty easy to hide, like all opinions people have.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
And now you're being wilfully ignorant just for the sake of it.
1 blackwingsreef 2018-05-08
Nice counterargument.
1 bopoll 2018-05-08
Abusers are misogynists ya mong lol you think beating a woman isn't misogynistic?
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Not all misogynists are abusers.
1 bopoll 2018-05-08
They really weren't kidding when they called you braindead huh
Read this sentence one more time because you'll see it very soon ^
But all abusive boyfriends/husbands are misogynists
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Oh away and pickle your own brain. I'm too old for arguing with twats like you
1 bopoll 2018-05-08
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
did you just realize that what you said was retarded so now you have to call me a twat since clearly you can't argue with us logically?
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
I just couldn't be bothered finding the context, twatface.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
...and he's in another relationship.
But thanks for playing.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
And some women think that he will change, and he was only like that because she made him, and she was just a psycho who got what she deserved, because he's spun some sort of "woe is me" tale about how horrible she was etc etc... seen it.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
Wonder why they can't rationalize their way into a relationship with an incel like they can for ol' Chrissy boi?
1 bopoll 2018-05-08
So what your saying is that women don't care that he abuses women?
1 JoelBloomSlayer 2018-05-08
Canât tel if trolling.
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1 fryxtz 2018-05-08
Except he was decent looking and successful, most incels are neither of those things and have no personality on top of it. Of course this has been explained to you a million times but you don't care about the truth.
1 Cyrrow 2018-05-08
I thought you normies said personality matters more.
1 Detoxification- 2018-05-08
So you admit that goods looks and success are infinitely more important than personality?
1 fryxtz 2018-05-08
No i didn't. You need at least one, that's the point. Incels have zero.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
P E R S O N A L I T Y
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1 blackwingsreef 2018-05-08
You just admitted that incels have it right.
1 fryxtz 2018-05-08
You need at least one of those 3 things or other things. Incels have nothing. They could if they worked at it but they only want to make excuses and blame everyone else.
1 blackwingsreef 2018-05-08
Moving the goalposts now are we. Looks and success are the two fundamental determinant of attraction, personality determines long term compatibility. Most people can't be in a relationship without sexual attraction.
1 fryxtz 2018-05-08
I didn't move the goalposts at all. All I did was reword what I initially said.
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-08
When's the last time a woman has gotten wet because an ugly man had an amazingz pesonalityz?
1 gufestus2 2018-05-08
Wait. That's what we've been saying forever. Personality doesn't fucking matter.
1 fryxtz 2018-05-08
wrong
1 azucel 2018-05-08
WOOSH
1 Blackcocks2cel 2018-05-08
You must be borderline retard IQ, lets hope your personality makes up for it...
1 theonenamedkirk 2018-05-08
fuck me how much time do you spend on incels subs? sad fuck.
1 subhumanforever 2018-05-08
Hahhahaha...hahahahah...bahahahahahah lmfaooooo normies are so fucking stupid.
Hook, line, and sinker.
1 Hopecel 2018-05-08
Every incel has a more interesting personality than any normtard.
1 bopoll 2018-05-08
I fucking love that normies think they're talking down to us while confirming everything we say
1 fryxtz 2018-05-08
Wrong, it's not said as an insult. You are the ones who claim you are all not good looking.
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-05-08
Wow
This low iq is comedy gold
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-08
Yeah, because sexual attraction is all about compensation. That's totally how it works. It's a formula.
Personality(5) + Looks(3) + Success(4) = Sexual Attraction value for fibmales.
It's totally not, "he's hot, I would let him rape me." No, fibmales are rational creatures who do the aforementioned formula in their head to form sexual attraction.
1 moggedbyall 2018-05-08
Rihanna is fucking ugly. With makeup and looksmaxx she goes up to 6.5/10 tops.
1 trevmon 2018-05-08
Frankenstein head yeah but I'd eat her poop
1 moggedbyall 2018-05-08
very good anon. I hope you meant poophole.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-08
As Russian anons say: "ĐąŃ Đ±Ń Đž ŃĐŸĐ±Đ°ŃŃĐž ĐșĐ°ĐșĐ°ŃĐșĐž ŃŃДл бŃ".
1 MasRock310 2018-05-08
I consider myself very high standards and never really was attracted to Rihanna (infact I didnât see what people found attractive of her) till i saw the video of her bowing to king james (first time seeing her in a non music video) and Iâll say looksmaxx sheâs at least an 8
1 moggedbyall 2018-05-08
pic? I may have exaggerated there.
1 4bricks 2018-05-08
Fucking cope faggot
1 moggedbyall 2018-05-08
Never said I'd wouldn't hold her hands.
1 neighborbirds 2018-05-08
"I'm gonna judge this famous woman so I don't feel pre-rejected"
1 moggedbyall 2018-05-08
She mogs me. But she still ugly.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
m'lady
1 NewLoadsOfFun 2018-05-08
Keep it up bro, maybe Rihanna will thank you by fucking you
1 neighborbirds 2018-05-08
Oh no, you've discerned my hidden agenda!
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-08
What does it mean to feel pre-rejected? To feel rejected before you feel rejected?
1 neighborbirds 2018-05-08
Well yes obviously lol
1 SpookySpace 2018-05-08
What is your reasioning?
1 sfcel 2018-05-08
"But if it was an incel it would have been much worse" -normies, probably.
1 newbrutus 2018-05-08
Fuck me, the bruises look worse than I remember
1 TropicalStormJim 2018-05-08
All worth it for Chad dick.
1 SaladTactileMembers 2018-05-08
That was some Tyrone BBC
1 kj107 2018-05-08
Incels can also look at how Ray Rice punched her girlfriend out and she STILL married him!
1 BF8211 2018-05-08
And that baseball player who beat the shit out of his girlfriend in the stairwell. She's engaged to him.
1 frankwashere44 2018-05-08
She hit him first. Deserved that one.
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-08
Women deserve it 99+% of the time. Since when do ass kickings fall out of the sky?
1 ForceFetusKing 2018-05-08
Were not agressive enough. If we had the confidence to hurt someone we would slaying.
1 MasRock310 2018-05-08
Just youtubr rihanna bowing lebron james
1 I_Came_For_Cats 2018-05-08
Ok
1 its_a_fishing_show 2018-05-08
"That's not what I meant when I said I needed more hits!"
1 Steve90000 2018-05-08
The real lesson here is, if you don't have good looks, you better have a great personality.
1 PotatoSilencer 2018-05-08
And people constantly shit on him for what he did and no one acts like this is a normal relationship.
1 subhumanforever 2018-05-08
Andddd cope.
1 PotatoSilencer 2018-05-08
Cope what? Millions of people think he's a shit for what he did but at the end of the day she chose to forgive him so it's on them to navigate their relationship.
How am I coping?
1 AutismoCircus 2018-05-08
There will always be haters. There won't always be romantic partners.
Also: The post mocks people who babble on abour "pershunaliti" like it was this all deciding force.
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-05-08
FUCKING OMEGALUL
1 GillbergsAdvocate 2018-05-08
The past isn't the past if you never stopped being a dick
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
doesn't stop thots from fucking him lmaoo
that personality detector breaks for some reason
1 PotatoSilencer 2018-05-08
No thots just don't care as they are also generally terrible people.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
lmao great logic
if women don't do what I think they should do they're terrible they should only be fucking nice guys and male feminists
1 PotatoSilencer 2018-05-08
How how how did you arrive at that from what I said?
1 Hodor4275 2018-05-08
Yeah on Reddit, but general populace doesn't give a shit.
Just look at all the girls drooling in the comments
1 neighborbirds 2018-05-08
Uuuuuh that's because it isn't a normal relationship
1 aliceelza 2018-05-08
i thought he just punched her in the eye, i didnt know he beat the living shit out of her
1 BF8211 2018-05-08
He rocked her shit. In the police report it says that he pulled her hair and slammed her face around the car, and then rammed her face into the seat while just punching her in the head/sides of the face for like 2 minutes straight.
1 JohnnyDildonics 2018-05-08
oh no he flew into a fit of rage and beat her after she threw his phone out the car windows during a verbal fight. I mean, couples fight and RiRi doesn't strike me as a passive, quiet woman, so I do think she started some of the beef that night, but he was the one that did the savage beating. There is no reason to lose it like he did and just rain blow after blow of your karate-hardened fists on a smaller, weaker person's unprotected face. I don't care how much of a bitch she was to him, he should have just made her get out the car and walk like a pleb if the fight was that personal.
1 LastSonKryton 2018-05-08
Also had it in my mind that chris was just mad and hit her once probably before saying sorry profusely. Was fucking shocked when i read the police report recently
1 Hodor4275 2018-05-08
Whole incident for the curious
1 subhumanforever 2018-05-08
"I'll let him hit me <333333333333333"
1 polarwaves 2018-05-08
And women still want to sleep and date these types of guys! Itâs so frustrating when youâre constantly told âitâs all about personality! Looks mean nothingâ. Chris Brown has had several girlfriends after this incident so donât tell me looks mean nothing
1 morthond 2018-05-08
because his personality is attractive. people are saying that you need to have an attractive personality, which is true. they're not saying that you need to have a morally righteous personality.
1 polarwaves 2018-05-08
But his personality isnât attractive?
1 TheiWindFelt 2018-05-08
But attraction is subjective?
1 polarwaves 2018-05-08
How does that apply to this case?
1 TheiWindFelt 2018-05-08
No entiendo friend. Clear to specify, you mean in him beating Ri?
1 morthond 2018-05-08
But it is. That's what you're not getting. If he acted like a cringey, shy, awkward nerd with no confidence and had the body language, facial expressions, posture, style, and grooming habits to match then he would be far less attractive to women than he is because he beats women. Some women simply don't care about that.
1 polarwaves 2018-05-08
Itâs all about looks dude. Thatâs what so many people like yourself fail to realize
1 morthond 2018-05-08
No, it's not. Lil Wayne gets women.
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-08
Just b a world famous and rich rapper, bro. I'd argue the guy has a decent personality, though.
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-08
Evil = attractive.
Good = unattractive.
This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that fibmales are horrible. Thanks for agreeing with us.
1 morthond 2018-05-08
or
evil = irrelevant (to some)
good = irrelevant (to some)
actual personality = matters
personality as in social skills
of course, it's a complicated equation determining whether or not a woman will be attracted, taking into account all sorts of things
looks obviously matter, but using this as proof that personality doesn't matter is stupid.
and yeah, you could believe all your incel bullshit and hate woman and still get women if you were a 10.
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-08
>of course, it's a complicated equation determining whether or not a woman will be attracted, taking into account all sorts of things
LOL @ you actually believing there's a fucking equation.
>and yeah, you could believe all your incel bullshit and hate woman and still get women if you were a 10.
Hating women is part of an attractive personality. Women LOVE rapists. They LOVE misogynists. So long as they're hot.
If you're not hot, it doesn't matter what kind of personality you have; women won't find you attractive.
I'm not sure why this isn't sinking in. Oh wait, I am. It's because you're not very intelligent.
1 morthond 2018-05-08
lol @ you for thinking i mean a literal equation
the irony of someone who says this
saying this:
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-08
Women do love rapists. Read up on soap opera villains whom millions of women went crazy for.
There is nothing women like more than a hot bad boy.
1 defendersavage 2018-05-08
This is what is total bullshit about normies IMO NORMIES need to STOP talking about "Personnality" when they actually mean social skill personality have absolutlly nothing to do with social skills they are 2 different things and from what you just said i can conclud that NO the true définition of personality dont matter to womens
1 Melanin_Privilege 2018-05-08
Stop making sense, alot of people here don't like it.
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-08
Here we see the typical moral relativist feminist and neckbeard. Be wary of these men, roasties, for with moral relativism they can justify their attempt to rape you.
1 morthond 2018-05-08
Where the fuck do you get this shit?
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-08
Beware the male feminist.
1 morthond 2018-05-08
Yeah. My question is how you think that's relevant.
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-08
Every male feminist is either a future or previous rapist. It's just that simple, fam.
1 morthond 2018-05-08
Great. I'm not a male feminist, though. I hate feminism.
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-08
Well, you sound like we could be great friends. What you were saying about good vs evil sounded very much like moral relativism. I believe there are inherent and innate universal morals that any sentient being in this universe abides by, the counter examples are only exceptions.
1 NightSkyPill 2018-05-08
Tell that to the brigaders posting that misogyny is the reason that incels can't get women.
1 Mas7erD3bator 2018-05-08
Every incel is a Chris Brown waiting to happen anyway.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
Tell that to the thots bro not us lmao
1 TheiWindFelt 2018-05-08
Just become Chris Brown bro*
1 thundrthy 2018-05-08
This is the exception not the rule.
1 summber 2018-05-08
Except they're not really dating anymore...?
1 dylang92 2018-05-08
But plenty of women have dated him since, and itâs not like what happened wasnât known.
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-08
This is the legbeard equivalent of the neckbeard's akscuaalllyyy.
They got back together at least once and collaborated on her song Birthday Cake and his Turn Up the Music.
1 Everytimeithinkimout 2018-05-08
The point that you numbers are totally missing, as usual, is that it's not being violent, or misogynist, or a potential abuser that are the facets of your personalities that drive women a way from you. Most of those things don't show up until people get to know each other a bit (so this actually will be what is driving away intelligent women that spend Any time- presumably unwillingly- with you).
It's that you are boring, whiny, humorless monomaniacs. No one likes that shit bro.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
EXACTLY! You can have a terrible personality and still be in a relationship. Tell the other retards who don't seem to get that simple fucking fact.
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-08
>It's that you are boring, whiny, humorless monomaniacs. No one likes that shit bro.
No, it's that we're physically unattractive. No one likes that shit bro.
1 Everytimeithinkimout 2018-05-08
Heh. Cope. Can't deal with what s shit vacuum if a person you are
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-08
I'm superior to you in every facet of life other than looks.
1 wincitygiant 2018-05-08
Dont forget you're also far inferior in terms of how much happiness you get out of life (none) how many peoples loves you've impacted for the better (none) or how long you're likely to live (get roped).
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-08
I'm not going to rope. Sorry to disappoint you.
I love how you presume to know how many lives I've "impacted" (affected) for the better...like you know enough about me to make such a sweeping statement about my 33 years on this planet.
1 wincitygiant 2018-05-08
When you see a man so angry, bitter and full of venom as you are it is not hard to extrapolate that. People with extremely negative world views like yours are miserable people who going hating everyone else, not helping them.
1 gufestus2 2018-05-08
So basically being boring and humourless is worse than beating the shit out of your girlfriend? Is that what you're saying.
1 PuleaSpataru69 2018-05-08
Yeah...the first thing that shows up is physical aspect. Or uglyness in this case.
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-05-08
Uh oh spaghettios
1 Princess-Rufflebutt 2018-05-08
Did you know that abusive people often donât act abusive at first and tend to lull their victims into false security before trying anything?
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
bruh
he has a girlfriend now
1 Princess-Rufflebutt 2018-05-08
My point still stands dude
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
Not really. Any women who fucked him since the incident know he has a bad personality. And since our bad personalities keep us incel it should be the same with attractive guys, right?
I know that you're a woman but just try to use logic. I'm not being sexist it's just fact that men are generally good at logic and women are empathetic and socially astute.
1 Princess-Rufflebutt 2018-05-08
âI know I can never make up for how I treated her, but Iâm trying to turn my life around.â
You realize that emotional manipulation is still a thing right? Thatâs how men who are known abusers get into relationships again and again and again.
And yeah, you are being sexist. You realize that youâre over simplifying outdated science right?
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
I'm just being honest, not sexist. You're having issues with logic right now correct?
Anyway, I'll start over. I doubt you'll get there but maybe you'll be the first logical woman on this website.
Is the reason why incels stay incel because we have bad personalities?
1 Princess-Rufflebutt 2018-05-08
Again, thatâs not honesty. Itâs not even considered scientifically correct.
Anyways, let me repeat this for you:
Emotional manipulation is a thing. Some people are really charismatic and good at convincing others to trust them despite repeatedly abusing others.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
Is the reason why incels stay incel because we have bad personalities?
1 Princess-Rufflebutt 2018-05-08
Stop moving the goal posts. I literally answered your question for you twice already. Youâre just gonna try and turn this into a pointless argument about semantics otherwise.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
Well you can't say I didn't try. But I can't undo hundreds of thousands of years of biology.
1 Princess-Rufflebutt 2018-05-08
When you canât actually defend your argument so you resort to incorrect science to make yourself feel better.
So much for logical huh?
1 movielover2018 2018-05-08
so theyre fucking retards, got it.
1 EcstaticLawyer 2018-05-08
I promise you, if you could see into the inceltears and other troll's lives, their words would no longer sting.
1 Jiren_cumbiero 2018-05-08
It's easier to explain than you think, he doesn't have a shitty personality, he is a shitty person, which is different at least of what we are talking about.
Guy is rich, probably attractive, and probably has an alluring personality, so a lot of girls will go "But he has change/He loves me/My love will change him" than bam! they get their shit kicked out of them.
Now the "horrible personality" is one that is boring, creepy, insecure, etc. So no alluring at all.
1 gufestus2 2018-05-08
So you're saying being boring and insecure is worse than beating up women?
1 Jiren_cumbiero 2018-05-08
For some purposes, yes.
That is the mistake you do a lot, you tend to group a lot of things together.
For example, imagine we were talking about winning a fight, what you are thinking would match "You mean that fighting to defend others is worse than being a skilled fighter?"
1 gufestus2 2018-05-08
So yes. Thanks for proving my point. I'm now gonna act abusive towards every girl I see.
1 Jiren_cumbiero 2018-05-08
And again, you oversimplify things.
No, acting abusive towards every girl will only get you to end up as an ass and probably even beat up. It is about adquiring the other qualities that will make you attractive.
Now I won't try to fool you, some girls do love being treated like trash, but usually is by that guy that is or at least is perceived as a badass, if a creepy motherfucker tried it he would only get problems. Also it would give you problems if you are looking for a long term relationship, since usually girls with no selfsteem issues will usually ditch you. People have limits.
You see, that is another mistakes you tend to do here, you don't know to what extent a fact proves something.
1 gufestus2 2018-05-08
If an "ugly" guy tried it, he might have problems. That's the thing. Abuse is only abuse when done by ugly guys.
1 Jiren_cumbiero 2018-05-08
Nope, I've seen ugly guys doing it and getting away with it.
Things are more complex than that, there are more variables in play. But even if that were true, and only handsome people could get away with it, it would not prove anything else besides that. And even there it would really make no sense to be even discussing this thing, since you ain't a fucking brad pitt it doesn't matter what could you do or don't if you were, right?
1 gufestus2 2018-05-08
Exactly. And that's where we come back to again. You can do literally anything as a good looking guy and get girls meanwhile even looking at girls as an ugly guy is considered harassment.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
My god you people will rationalize anything Chads do won't you. Fuck, a chad could rape a woman and he'd still have an amazing personality lmao
1 _ThE_LaKe_ 2018-05-08
I BEAT my DICK like CHRIS BROWN'S WIFE
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-08
Reminder that just 5 years after his beating of Rihanna he clocked over 3/4 of a billion views for the song Loyal.
Kek, his YouTube info incorrectly links his Instagram to Britney Spears' Instagram.
1 -SpinxS 2018-05-08
so?
1 Soiled_Bugman 2018-05-08
Abusers tend to actually show signs of abuse early on. Women just don't care and will risk being abused if the guy has good looks or status.
1 Kar98kSnipe 2018-05-08
Except she forgave him and he still gets girls. Femoids are EVIL
1 trevmon 2018-05-08
nah she is into bdsm and wants a guy to beat her
a chad to beat her I should say
1 chillenyo2 2018-05-08
then dont be in HR
1 celaway1696 2018-05-08
Why do you Normans say that foids are able to detect our "terrible" personalities because of what we post anonymously, but they aren't able to detect someone being abusive?
1 blackwingsreef 2018-05-08
Which one is it!?
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
...and he's in another relationship.
But thanks for playing.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
There's a difference. Abusers are subtle. Misogynists are not.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Then your friends are just making things harder for you. Nice friends.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
How'd he hide his abusive side if he already was shown to be abusive...
What, he hid the articles and pictures from his new girlfriend's eyes using his subtle ways?
I know rationality isn't on you side because of your gender handicap but pretend you're a man for a second.
1 Incelvester 2018-05-08
You were saying?
1 lanana_banana 2018-05-08
I already said I'm a 65 old man. I have multiple personalities ya know?
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
I often rethink what I believe based on new evidence that is presented.
For instance, I came here thinking incels were the "nice guys" in fedoras that were creepy and didn't know the meaning of the word no, who expected women to fall at their feet because they were being "gentlemen" (and I use that term lightly here because they weren't). I now know that incels are (mostly) younger guys who have been marginalised by shallow women, bullied, laughed at and rejected when they try to get a girlfriend. And not usually politely either.
I'm a lot more aware of abuse and abusers than I used to be, and I am more aware of the reasons women stay, why women date known abusers, why men are less likely to stay in abusive relationships, but that they are still abused more often than people would like to think.
I like reading. If something piques my curiosity, I will read up on it.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
And you're still using the name "retarded_dumbshit" and calling people names. The irony.
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-08
The kind that incels are. You know, what you've been talking about ITT, about how people can tell incels are abusers just from body language alone.
You didn't talk to self described incels, you talked to virgins. Are all virgins abusers? Do all virgins exhibit the body language you were saying incels exhibit?
Don't bother answering, I'm obviously calling you out on your bullshit.
You are calling us abusers when you don't know a SINGLE one of us. Trying to talk sense into you is clearly a pointless effort.
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-08
At least I'm aware of my retardery. You seem to think you know all the answers concerning people you've never met and have never even actually tried understanding in this forum.
1 gufestus2 2018-05-08
That's not the freaking point. Address the question I'm asking. Why are my friends, who're openly abusive get girls on the regular while I rot alone.
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
Ask the girls. I think they're fucking stupid, so I'm damned if I know why someone would go with a known abuser.
1 mazafakaaaa 2018-05-08
You know what conveys who you are 1000x better than "body language"? The things you actually say and do.
The "body language is 80% of communication" bullshit is one of the most retarded idea spread on internet.
1 JoelBloomSlayer 2018-05-08
Canât tel if trolling.
1 bopoll 2018-05-08
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
did you just realize that what you said was retarded so now you have to call me a twat since clearly you can't argue with us logically?
1 MagratM 2018-05-08
I just couldn't be bothered finding the context, twatface.
1 BF8211 2018-05-08
And that baseball player who beat the shit out of his girlfriend in the stairwell. She's engaged to him.
1 frankwashere44 2018-05-08
She hit him first. Deserved that one.
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1 PotatoSilencer 2018-05-08
How how how did you arrive at that from what I said?
1 morthond 2018-05-08
No, it's not. Lil Wayne gets women.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
bruh
he has a girlfriend now
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-08
Well you can't say I didn't try. But I can't undo hundreds of thousands of years of biology.
1 PM_ME_UR_SUSPICIONS 2018-05-08
Bro honestly you're bitching about women a lot for a normal "person." Not judging, but you seem like an emotionally immature person. Not saying I'm a winner, but you sure as fuck aren't either.
1 Jiren_cumbiero 2018-05-08
For some purposes, yes.
That is the mistake you do a lot, you tend to group a lot of things together.
For example, imagine we were talking about winning a fight, what you are thinking would match "You mean that fighting to defend others is worse than being a skilled fighter?"
1 morthond 2018-05-08
Where the fuck do you get this shit?