same as me brother but its not the main reason that i post here

Bro im the same stats as you and kinda feel the same way.

Maybe if you went outside once in a while or exercised your life would change. You are 21 -- prime testosterone time in your life.

You are wasting it posting here. Eat better, take supplements, get sunshine, sleep right and lift heavy things. Boost your T.

He can't grow a longer spine.

Dude complains about looking like a boy when he essentially is one. T will fix that.

How? It won't make his face more masculine. He might get ripped but how exactly are you going to see that through a jacket?

First dropping body fat % absolutely will make his face more masculine and second getting some facial/chest hair will help.

Wow you really love spewing bullshit. Cutting bodyweight can't make your facial features different, just more pronounced. If you have a recessed jaw you'll still have a recessed jaw, same thing goes for cheeks, maxilla, orbital rims etc.

Unless you're 20%+ bf, cutting fat is complete cope.

Lol. No. A man who's 5'5 will only look more ugly and a triehard if he got ripped.

says the ugly fat kid who is too lazy to go to the gym...

We are realists. Gym is cope for the ugly man. It's about bonestructure, women don't give a shit about a man with an ugly face on a ripped body. That's called realism. If someone wants to go to the gym, he must do it for himself, but it won't help shit when it comes to getting women unless you have FACE. Face, height and dicksize is ALL what matters to women.

Frame is underrated here but really important, i.e shoulder width

At least you have a big dick. But yeah, 5'5 is pretty much over unless you have a model face.

Mate, I hate to be the one to break it to you but if that's you in the photos and videos you look fine. And you definitely don't look feminine.

You are manlier than me OP. You heightmog me by 2 inches.

2.0 inches = 5.08 centimetres.

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Why are you defining your masculinity and self-worth on your height?

Audie Murphy, who has his own "Badass of the Week" article is shorter then you. If he can be a war hero at 5'4" why can't you be a man at 5'5"?

It's a growing societal issue, and it's not just about height.

Men are more or less programmed by the dominant culture to view most of their masculinity through their ability to achieve validation, especially sexual validation, from women. If a guy goes through life being romantically and/or sexually ostracized by women because of a specific trait.....that guy is going to lose confidence because of how our culture teaches boys to measure themselves in the first place.

If rely on what you think other people think of you you're in for a bad time.

Beyond that, short men can focus on other qualities that make them more attractive (keeping fit, being passionate about something, social skills), so the notion that being short is a death sentence to your love life is absurd and unfounded.

Finally, what does being short have to do with masculinity? If a 5'5" "manlet" can be a war hero why can't other 5'5" people be men?

Hey I agree 100% but for a lot of guys this is difficult to grasp.

Are you serious or just delusional? We repeat: women don't give a shit about your social skills. They want height, face and dick. Stop coping with this bullshit.

Now you're just throwing out assertions as axioms.

Some of my mates have 0/3 of the qualities you mentioned and have successful relationships and sex lives. Once you get to know someone and/or are looking for something that isn't short term personality and other internal qualities beats physical features.

Already been debunked. How many times do we have to say that women need time off between chads, so they take an ugly guy temporary, whom they call 'a boyfriend', suck out all validation from him to build herself up after being pumped and dumped by chad. This has nothing to do with love and there is no physically attraction. The moment she's ready for chad again, she dumps him or cheats on him.

Debunked by who? When? You're throwing out more assertions as axioms now, and have little actual idea how relationships or sex work.

I've only ever had sex with long-term boyfriends that I love, so not sure where you got this idea that they're just "breaks" between Chads.

When you're trying to organise 3 billion individuals into one box try to remember they're individuals and therefore all vastly different from one another.

Through the years, we have built enough knowledge and made a lot of experiments. So this stuff has been debunked many times.

You must be very ugly or just denying the truth, like all women.

They are not individuals. If they were, they wouldn't behave the same. Do you understand your own nature? Can a female peacock say to herself: this time, I'm not going to choose the most beautiful male, but an ugly one? She can't. Same way you cannot ignore your own nature.

Through the years, we have built enough knowledge and made a lot of experiments. So this stuff has been debunked many times.

See, you keep saying that, but there's nothing beyond assertions from you.

You must be very ugly or just denying the truth, like all women.

It's the truth and I'm attractive. That's what's called a false dichotomy.

They are not individuals. If they were, they wouldn't behave the same.

But they don't behave the same. Some women want to find one guy and settle down early. Some women want to have a career and never settle down at all.

Your premise is wrong.

Do you understand your own nature? Can a female peacock say to herself: this time, I'm not going to choose the most beautiful male, but an ugly one? She can't. Same way you cannot ignore your own nature.

Wow. Are you honestly telling me what I am and are not doing? Since when were you an expert on what women are doing?

Beyond that, you're acting as if there is an objective standard of beauty, which is wrong.

My boyfriend is a bit on the skinny side, but he's hilarious, smart, driven, and a great person, which is why I'm with him. On the other hand, several other girls rejected him because he's a bit socially awkward and they're not attracted to his body type.

Claiming that there are objective definitions of attractiveness is just ignorant of how relationships and sex actually works.

What is his jaw like? Does he have an overbite greater than 4 mm?

I don't measure it with a ruler

Well if its over 4 mm , i respect you for sticking with a subhuman

What's there to respect? She probably found her looksmatch or is a post wall Stacylite that comes here telling us 'not all women are like that' while she was riding the cock carousel in het 20s.

Do you realize this discussion is pointless. Why? Because what women say is NOT how they act. We had a lot of discussions here with women who said the same stuff as you. Turned out later they were sending nudes to chadlites on this board or cheated on their boyfriends. What you say is not how you act. This is part of your nature as a woman. Yes, i make claims about your nature. Are you different than how nature created and molded human beings? No you are not. You are a product of evolution, hypergamous by nature. Just like I as a man, am a product of nature and evolution. Saying one thing and acting in a different way is how you have been created as a woman. So talking about 'but my boyfriend this/that' and 'I'm not like that' doesn't mean anything.

I like how you finally stopped trying to claim you actually have evidence, since you obviously have none.

You're not in any position to understand female nature. And beyond seeing the vast difference in all the women of the world that you like to forget about, between relationship choices, career choices, and family choices, it's pretty obvious that you don't.

Also, do you have a percentage on how many women said what I have while cheating on their boyfriends? "A lot" is a wonderful vague copout when the specifics don't help your case.

Maybe you should do your own research about the blackpill. We're the only ones that keep spreading scientific proof for our claims. You're asking me to do the work you should have been doing before you came here.

And why should we look at differences? Does a scientist look at individuals? No, he takes a big or small sample and makes general claims. That's enough to make generalized claims. That's how we do it. We don't need to know the personality and career of your female friend to make claims about your nature. That would be a stupid thing to do when we talk about female nature. We don't need to do that.

They can't understand this, because it doesn't feel good. They are like children.

women need time off between chads, so they take an ugly guy temporary, whom they call 'a boyfriend', suck out all validation from him to build herself up after being pumped and dumped by chad. This has nothing to do with love and there is no physically attraction. The moment she's ready for chad again, she dumps him or cheats on him.

Thank you for putting the truth out here. People will say whatever it takes to hide how women are.

It happens all the time, lol. Thing is, guys have such a big ego, they don't tell the truth or hide it, and women tell a totally different story 'I left him, it was his fault'. And then, everyone hates her ex boyfriend, while he did nothing wrong. He was just a scapegoat, and deep in her heart, she hated him. She needed his validation, like a parasite that sucks blood out of your veins.

So, nobody knows the truth behind all these 'so called relationships'. People just keep talking about 'love' and all that bullshit.

There is no relationship without chad. Chad is involved in every relationship, even if he's not physically there (yet).

Do you have a source for that? Google says 5'5"

google run by sjws, try searching for "why do women . . . "

SJW's took 4 inches off Audie Murphy's height?

People call me "sir" when I wear lifts and "kid" when I don't. Height is a huge variable in respect and it's cope to say otherwise. You 100% have to compensate for it or else people just won't respect you.

I come here because it's the only sub in the whole manosphere that is not bitter towards women.

Fucking same. I feel this shit so hard, man. My voice is deep as hell, but everything else stopped growing years ago (save for my dick, as if anybody is gonna see it anytime soon). Fuck attracting roasties, I just want to be taken seriously outside of my close friends.

It's a growing societal issue, and it's not just about height.

Men are more or less programmed by the dominant culture to view most of their masculinity through their ability to achieve validation, especially sexual validation, from women. If a guy goes through life being romantically and/or sexually ostracized by women because of a specific trait.....that guy is going to lose confidence because of how our culture teaches boys to measure themselves in the first place.

Hey I agree 100% but for a lot of guys this is difficult to grasp.

Are you serious or just delusional? We repeat: women don't give a shit about your social skills. They want height, face and dick. Stop coping with this bullshit.

Maybe you should do your own research about the blackpill. We're the only ones that keep spreading scientific proof for our claims. You're asking me to do the work you should have been doing before you came here.

And why should we look at differences? Does a scientist look at individuals? No, he takes a big or small sample and makes general claims. That's enough to make generalized claims. That's how we do it. We don't need to know the personality and career of your female friend to make claims about your nature. That would be a stupid thing to do when we talk about female nature. We don't need to do that.