No, but posting a message that says " Hey incels you should to parties because it's way easier to fuck drunk girls" is skeezy at best and encouraging rape at worst. Pretty sure you know that though.
There's a world of difference between I'm tipsy, you're tipsy, we clicked, and we want to have a little bit of fun, and: I came to this party specifically to to find some girl who's hammered enough that I'll be able to fuck her.
You're an idiot, hitting on girls at a party isn't rape lmao. Why do you think single men aren't allowed into frat parties but women are? It's because guys are trying to get laid. Dumbass.
Yeah, but the way you phrased the original, and frankly I’m pretty sure the way you meant it in the first place was getting laid with drunk girls, not just hitting on them. I once again find myself sympathising with board_gaming, she has to have a very thick skin and a lot of patience dealing with you lot.
Braincels, where smug trolls can be upvoted by misrepresenting the contents of the thread and shitting on the people who are supposed to be the sub's community.
I mean I won’t argue the smug bit, but I’m more shitting on the shit parts of your community. I’m well aware not all of you are really misogynists, I know a lot of you are just dealing with it, getting on with your lives and just coming to braincels for some camaraderie. I just find your arsehole proportion to be too high to just ignore.
I'm not trying to imply anything here, just want an opinion, have you watched the movie "Superbad", what do you think about the Jonah Hill storyline? That was rapey? Because even tho I don't agree much, I think that what op was trying to imply.
I honestly think that that storyline was saved by the fact that Jules wasn't drinking so it didn't work. Now, if they had been drinking and hanging out together and spontaneously made the mutual decision to hook up that would be one thing, even if it was slightly ill advised. But if Seth specifically got Jules drunk so he could hook up with her, I would pretty much disagree with that. My reading of the actual plot line was that Seth didn't so much want to get Jules drunk so he could sleep with her as he thought that providing alcohol for her party would make him a hero. He was trying to do something awesome to win her respect... Getting her drunk was never the goal.
Seth wanted her to be drunk because that's the only way that she would be interested in him. He saw him self so much lower than her that the only way that she would hook up with him is if she dropped all her standards (this is a common belief about being drunk at parties) and that's what I think op tried to imply, if you are so ugly that even girls when they have little to no standards are very disinhibited then it's over for you.
And that's fair. It's been a while since I've seen that movie. So yeah, if he'd gotten her drunk just to sleep with her that would have been wrong.
Whatever OP was implying though, I can still see why the post was removed. As much as it sucks to have such shit self esteem, it doesn't justify going specifically after girls who are too drunk to act rationally.
Well, I think for some people it is and for others it doesn't. I was mostly just using it to imply they weren't two people who already knew each other and had been trying to get each other's pants.
I guess it depends on your definition of drunk. If you're talking about intoxicated, but still fully conscious of all of her actions... Tacky, possibly skeezy. If she's falling down, incoherent, or passed the fuck out... Dude.
Nothing, if both parties are okay with it. If a girl is so drunk she can't even talk properly and you just take her, then yes, it can be considered a rape. Not saying that it's not the girl's fault to some extent.
"So drunk she can't talk properly" is something you added. Btw, girls also go to parties to flirt with drunk guys. Why is it not considered "taking advantage of" when they do it?
If, again, the guy is too drunk and the girl "forces" him to any sexual activity he wouldn't agree with if he was sober, then of course I think that's wrong. That doesn't collide with the "both parties have to be okay with it" that I said in my first comment.
Well there's nothing inherently wrong with wanting to get some. It's the idea that it's easier to fuck a girl who's hammered that's wrong. If you meet a girl at a bar or a party, you're both a little tipsy, but you click and everybody is still in their right Minds? Go for it. Go home with her, do what you want to do. But the post was phrased in such a way that it could be very easily interpreted as "go to parties, specifically to find vulnerable drunk girls to fuck".
I'm the first to admit there's an awful lot of gray between the black and the white there but it's always better to err on the side of caution.
Have you ever been to a frat party? Because I have... And a lot of questionable shit takes place there. The fact that it happens doesn't mean it's right. Yes everybody has responsibility to take care of themselves, but that doesn't mean "go fuck drunk girls because it's easier" is ethical advice to be giving out.
No lol, Chad's can fuck drunk chicks all he wants and gets away with it because when she wakes up in the morning she doesn't regret it and doesn't call the cops because she was "raped"
Now are they fucking drunk chicks that they know, who are in their right minds? Or are they fucking hammered, sideways, can't stand up and won't remember what happened last night girls? One is an ethical gray area, the other is fucked up.
I've seen both happen. Like I said I'm very close friends with them and often have to pick them up the next morning with the girl in tow. They have never been accused of rape once, never.
If they're fucking girls were passed out, that's pretty pathetic and kind of makes me doubt they're true Chad's. Chad doesn't have to resort to that, he has access to conscious sex partners. In any case, just because it hasn't backfired on them yet, doesn't mean it won't.
Fucking a passed-out girl isn't free pussy. It's rape. And I'm not one just throw that around lately... I think women have a lot more agency and control than a lot of people give us credit for. But if she's passed out that's not even a gray area. Congratulations, you're friends with scum...
I can't dispute something that I a. don't know is true, and b. isn't happening to me. I do know though that an awful lot of fraternities have been shut down over exactly the sort of shit that we're talking about so obviously there are some people out there who don't think this is all right.
I'm not even going to get into the reality of what it's like actually being raped. The embarrassment. The people who call you a whore and say that you deserved it. The people who just straight-up don't believe that it happened. The self-doubt. There are dozens of reasons why a woman would not report a rape... The fact that it's Chad has nothing to do with it.
In any case, if you want to be a decent human being not. If you care at all about not being a horrible person, don't fuck drunk, passed out women. Just don't do it. It shouldn't be that hard.
Yeah, that's not true. If women are fueled by biology and nothing more, so are men. Humans are self-aware. Although biology and Instinct are powerful things we're more complicated than that.
Actually, a lot of people, both men and women, get drunk with the intention of getting laid. With that in mind, I wouldn't say there's anything inherently unethical about wanting to go out looking for a drunk hookup. It becomes problematic when someone keeps persisting despite getting clear signals of rejection from another person.
Clear signals of rejection, or taking advantage of someone who isn't capable of taking care of themselves. There's another guy running around this thread who's telling me that his "chad" friends fuck unconscious girls and it's obviously okay because they haven't been charged with rape yet.
Once it's laid out and clear like right now people don't see it as acceptable, but when it happens people seem fine with it. Guys respect it and wouldn't get in the way of it because of the bro code, and girls like guys like that because they're "experienced". Like I said it gets rationalized away.
Guys respect it? They respect the fact that their friends fuck girls were passed out because they drank too much? No. No. Just no. I don't know who the fuck you're hanging out with, but that would definitely not fly with my man friends. That's how you get yourself ostracized, and possibly get the shit beaten out of you.
Similarly in the no category, women do not consider men who fuck unconscious women to be experienced. This is not a thing. This has never been a thing.
Women don't know how the guy's had sex, they just know he's slept with a lot of women and they respect that. That's what I'm getting at when I say society deems it as acceptable.
(And same with guys really, I agree that it takes a very sleazy person who actively participate in that, but actively getting in the way of it also called cockblocking.)
That's what a huge amount of non-celibates do though, that's how they get laid. Maybe down the road they form "healthy" relationships but by that point everything is rationalized.
Part of the reason I got little action early in life is because my colleagues did that and I didn't. Then years later I'm treated as under-experienced and they're considered normal.
This entire thread has gone into super crazy direction. Maybe there are a few people out there in the world who think you are completely unable to give consent the moment that first sip of alcohol passes your lips, but realistically that's not how it works.
However: going to a party specifically hoping there is a girl who you know would turn you down if she were sober, that happens to be hammered enough not to say no is not okay. I've said it a million times. Don't fuck girls who are passed out. Don't fuck girls who are falling down. Don't fuck girls who are incapable of knowing what's going on. Don't fuck girls who are incapacitated.
That's really all it takes. The original thread was worded in a super ambiguous way. That's why it got taken down.
Yeah, saying that you should be able to "get something" doesn't imply flirting... it implies taking advantage of impaired girls. It's very scary for girls to go to parties, much more so than for men. I'm glad someone said something because the reason I've taken to r/incels is because I recently had a friend in a similar situation - she went to a party, got really drunk by accident (she's 16 and doesn't really get alcohol measurements) and was pretty much raped by a 19 yo guy (not to get too judgy, but he did fit the "incel" stereotype) - he was cold sober and looking to take advantage of a younger girl. I wasn't there, but another girl who was was in the room where it happened and said she was pretty much passed out when it happened. It's not a fucking joke. It's not harmless, and it's not funny. I sat with her for almost eight hours as she cried about it, got super drunk, passed out, and tried to do it again because she was in so much pain. Ever since it happened, she's been a very different person. This encourages taking advantage of impaired people. It's very common. I know another girl (also 16) who was really drunk and high as out of it and was also borderline raped, this time by a really hot 18 yo guy. She was even told that she was "lucky". But her reaction was the same - she didn't care he was hot, she cared that he took advantage of her, and hasn't been the same since. Thinking all girls don't mind being raped by hot guys is disgusting. This mindset is revolting. Both girls were underaged and very intoxicated. If you don't find anything wrong with taking advantage of intoxicated girls, you really shouldn't go to parties. I'm 15 and won't go to parties because of this mindset. So please, stay away from drunk girls if you truly can't control yourself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ex-fucking-cuse me? He shouldn't have taken advantage from her. Yeah, she shouldn't have, but it was in no way her fault. The blame is all his, she just made it much easier for him to take advantage of her. The situation doesn't matter, it's still wrong.
Yes, it's his fault for being a weirdo and having sex with her, but as a general rule for your own safety, you probably shouldn't get words slurring, immobile/blackout drunk at a fucking college party. If a man drove his Rolls Royce into Compton and he got his car stolen at gun point, people would question why the guy took his expensive car to the ghetto, while still acknowledging that the people who stole the car are in the wrong. Why can't we do the same with women at parties?
and the girls who attend parties and get wasted aren't looking to get some? you only bring up the R word because there's a danger of them drunkenly ending up with a sub-7 male (a fate worse than death for femoids). If it's Chad it can't be rape.
You do realize that no where have I said having sex with a drunk girl is rape? What I said is it giving out advice telling someone to telling someone to specifically target drunk girls to fuck because it's easier is unethical. And yes, it could very easily lead to rape which is why the post got taken down.
Yeah, saying that you should be able to "get something" doesn't imply flirting... it implies taking advantage of impaired girls. It's very scary for girls to go to parties, much more so than for men. I'm glad someone said something because the reason I've taken to r/incels is because I recently had a friend in a similar situation - she went to a party, got really drunk by accident (she's 16 and doesn't really get alcohol measurements) and was pretty much raped by a 19 yo guy (not to get too judgy, but he did fit the "incel" stereotype) - he was cold sober and looking to take advantage of a younger girl. I wasn't there, but another girl who was was in the room where it happened and said she was pretty much passed out when it happened. It's not a fucking joke. It's not harmless, and it's not funny. I sat with her for almost eight hours as she cried about it, got super drunk, passed out, and tried to do it again because she was in so much pain. Ever since it happened, she's been a very different person. This encourages taking advantage of impaired people. It's very common. I know another girl (also 16) who was really drunk and high as out of it and was also borderline raped, this time by a really hot 18 yo guy. She was even told that she was "lucky". But her reaction was the same - she didn't care he was hot, she cared that he took advantage of her, and hasn't been the same since. Thinking all girls don't mind being raped by hot guys is disgusting. This mindset is revolting. Both girls were underaged and very intoxicated. If you don't find anything wrong with taking advantage of intoxicated girls, you really shouldn't go to parties. I'm 15 and won't go to parties because of this mindset. So please, stay away from drunk girls if you truly can't control yourself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And that is exactly why it is so important to take your safety very seriously. I know it's useless telling teenagers not to drink, but go with a group. Watch out for each other. Watch your drinks constantly and take this shit seriously. The vast majority of men are perfectly harmless and have nothing but good intentions but all it takes is one. I'm so sorry about your friends. :(
Yes it is, think about all the shit women has to go through on the daily basis. You should wait until they approach you or until they show some interest before you try. It’s called being a normal human being
They do. Men fucks anything that moves so they already show interests to every girl he sees. You haven’t noticed all the guys always checking out women before?
Reddit is filled to the brim with idiots infected by current day SJW nonsense. Just watch this guy cucking himself, "think of all the stuff wymyn have to deal with." JFL, what a beta limp wrist.
I actually disagree with this. Go ahead and approach. Just be chill about it and if she turns you down accept it gracefully. We're not made of spun sugar and we don't melt in the rain.
Men are already given this advice and look how much problems it causes. Most Men can’t take a hint when a women turns them down so it’s better to tell them to not approach until a women shows them interest first
You don't give them enough credit. There are a few assholes out there who are overly agressive and don't take no for an answer...they aren't going to listen to your "don't approach " advice anyway.
The vast majority of men are perfectly respectful and I'd rather tell the occasional overly agressive jackass to leave me alone than assume all guys are the same.
You might not get approached a lot but getting approached +5 times everyday gets old really quickly. And some of my female friends tells me they get approached even more than that daily. So it’s much more practical for a guy not to approach until they are shown interest
Sorry. Men have the right to approach me, and i have the right to turn them down. Why be offended because somebody wants to make a connection? I will never understand this.
I agree but they don't want you to approach not even online ,unless you are hot. You just get the vibes she's not interested from the beginning,and most of the time say something rude .
There is nothing rapey at all, it’s only because he posted here and she has never been invited to a party before. Why the fuck do people drink? Who denies drunk people don’t have a tendency to fuck more than sober people
Any other sub on reddit that would be fine. I keep warning all of you that she's gone fucking mad with power and is just trying to see how much she can get away with
All she does is disagree with us and obstruct us, even stretching the truth to abuse her power to do so as shown in your example. Fuck that dude who created this sub and let this happen.. when he was called out on it he was such a passive beta who couldn't answer the issues about her at all. And then he leaves and gives it all to her instead of removing her! holy fuck loser males always hand it, whatever it is, to women and make it worse for everyone. what an idiot
Drunk girls wouldn't be rape if their awake,now if they are passed out not knowing what's going on then yeah.drunk people at parties fuck all the time since who knows when.
What about people who have drunk sex and like it? Would you still consider it rape in those cases because they weren't in the right state of mind to decide?
No, There’s people who are in a relationship and obviously fine with it if they talked about it after they are all sobered up. And somethings like that
So if a man and a women, both drunk, meet at a bar and end up having sex, who is the rapist in that scenario? The man? The woman? Or perhaps did they both rape each other?
The law in my country disagrees with you. If one party is sober and decides to seek out sex from intoxicated persons, that shows intent. Having sex would be sexual assault. This is the same regardless of the sexes of the people involved (i.e. a woman can assault a man, a woman can assault a woman, a man can assault a man, a man can assault a woman).
The law in my country states you making the sober decision to go there for the purpose of having sex with a drunk girl is enough to show intent, regardless of how intoxicated you are when you have sex.
Let’s look at this scenario and changes the sexes around. Sober gay dude decides he’s going to a Frat keg party to have sex with a drunk guy there. He goes, gets drunk, fucks a willing but drunk guy. That’s sexual assault.
You are literally saying that you can't go to a frat party hoping you get laid, when they literally exist so students at the school can get laid. Stop being obtuse and stop looking for an excuse to cry rape when ugly men want to try and have some fun for once.
Wow that's ridiculous. Is it "rape" to solicit girls who are ovulating because they'd be more likely to fuck? Because drunk (not incapacitated, just drunk) girls are going to have lower inhibitions and might fuck someone they otherwise wouldn't.
There are no issues with flirting and joking around with girls at a party. Parties are meant for people to have fun.
Attempting to take advantage of someone who is drunk and cannot consent is not okay.
The original post said "get anything". This did not imply simply flirting with girls, but implied something more malicious.
Rape is illegal, and any posts or comments glorifying or encouraging rape of people of any gender are against Reddit's content policy and will be removed.
Being drunk and being so drunk that you have lost possession of your mental faculties and thus can't give consent are two different things. It's not rape, and it's not illegal to have sex with someone who is drunk. What IS illegal is having sex with someone who is so drunk that they aren't in any state of mind where they are capable of consenting. I haven't seen anybody advocating the latter. (and if they do, they should be banned)
There are no issues with flirting and joking around with girls at a party. Parties are meant for people to have fun.
Then why ban someone saying "go flirt lol"
Attempting to take advantage of someone who is drunk and cannot consent is not okay.
He did no such thing
The original post said "get anything". This did not imply simply flirting with girls, but implied something more malicious.
Getting attention is the same as go get pussy now? Getting a smile or social inclusion is rape now? Seriously, how are you a mod here?
Rape is illegal, and any posts or comments glorifying or encouraging rape of people of any gender are against Reddit's content policy and will be removed.
He made no such statement. Go back to cucktears faggot.
If a sober woman has sex with a drunk man, nobody calls it rape. I'm totally disappointed at you u/Board_Gaming. Now I understand why most users don't want you here.
If she consents while drunk it's still not rape, if I'm drunk and I consent that I have to pay a million dollars, I have to. Getting drunk is a choice.
Attempting to take advantage of someone who is drunk and cannot consent is not okay.
What's the definition of "cannot consent"? How many grams of alcohol does a woman must have in their blood until they cannot consent? With your laughably loose definition millions of women are being raped every time they go out to get a drink. Get out.
Seth wanted her to be drunk because that's the only way that she would be interested in him. He saw him self so much lower than her that the only way that she would hook up with him is if she dropped all her standards (this is a common belief about being drunk at parties) and that's what I think op tried to imply, if you are so ugly that even girls when they have little to no standards are very disinhibited then it's over for you.
I guess it depends on your definition of drunk. If you're talking about intoxicated, but still fully conscious of all of her actions... Tacky, possibly skeezy. If she's falling down, incoherent, or passed the fuck out... Dude.
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1 Kerfash889 2018-05-07
autism
1 Easy_Toast 2018-05-07
when wasn't a sub about incels cucked?
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
I mean you're phasing does pretty much make it sound like you're looking to "get some". Lets be real here.
1 Kerfash889 2018-05-07
so are you not allowed to go to a party wanting to “get some”?
I guess 80% of college guys are rapists then lol
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
No, but posting a message that says " Hey incels you should to parties because it's way easier to fuck drunk girls" is skeezy at best and encouraging rape at worst. Pretty sure you know that though.
1 Kerfash889 2018-05-07
how is it rape if everyone including the guy is drunk at a party?
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
There's a world of difference between I'm tipsy, you're tipsy, we clicked, and we want to have a little bit of fun, and: I came to this party specifically to to find some girl who's hammered enough that I'll be able to fuck her.
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-05-07
Is there any way we can remove these "muh sober consent" cucks from this forum? I can only handle so much cuckoldry.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
No. There isn't. :)
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-05-07
You are giving me cancer
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
Nah. Thats not me, try sunscreen
1 JerichoKyrie 2018-05-07
Ah, braincels, where a comment explaining how telling people to try to fuck people who are too drunk to give consent is a bad thing gets downvotes.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
Yeah, it's been even weirder than usual around here lately. :/
1 BF8211 2018-05-07
You're an idiot, hitting on girls at a party isn't rape lmao. Why do you think single men aren't allowed into frat parties but women are? It's because guys are trying to get laid. Dumbass.
1 JerichoKyrie 2018-05-07
Yeah, but the way you phrased the original, and frankly I’m pretty sure the way you meant it in the first place was getting laid with drunk girls, not just hitting on them. I once again find myself sympathising with board_gaming, she has to have a very thick skin and a lot of patience dealing with you lot.
1 hemmorhoidvania 2018-05-07
Braincels, where smug trolls can be upvoted by misrepresenting the contents of the thread and shitting on the people who are supposed to be the sub's community.
1 JerichoKyrie 2018-05-07
I mean I won’t argue the smug bit, but I’m more shitting on the shit parts of your community. I’m well aware not all of you are really misogynists, I know a lot of you are just dealing with it, getting on with your lives and just coming to braincels for some camaraderie. I just find your arsehole proportion to be too high to just ignore.
1 HalalHaramKabab 2018-05-07
It's rape if you're an ugly manlet.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-07
Because these women instinctively know we are too ugly for women to ever consent to be with.
1 brazilianincel 2018-05-07
I'm not trying to imply anything here, just want an opinion, have you watched the movie "Superbad", what do you think about the Jonah Hill storyline? That was rapey? Because even tho I don't agree much, I think that what op was trying to imply.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
I honestly think that that storyline was saved by the fact that Jules wasn't drinking so it didn't work. Now, if they had been drinking and hanging out together and spontaneously made the mutual decision to hook up that would be one thing, even if it was slightly ill advised. But if Seth specifically got Jules drunk so he could hook up with her, I would pretty much disagree with that. My reading of the actual plot line was that Seth didn't so much want to get Jules drunk so he could sleep with her as he thought that providing alcohol for her party would make him a hero. He was trying to do something awesome to win her respect... Getting her drunk was never the goal.
1 brazilianincel 2018-05-07
Seth wanted her to be drunk because that's the only way that she would be interested in him. He saw him self so much lower than her that the only way that she would hook up with him is if she dropped all her standards (this is a common belief about being drunk at parties) and that's what I think op tried to imply, if you are so ugly that even girls when they have little to no standards are very disinhibited then it's over for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR042MD-Jqc
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
And that's fair. It's been a while since I've seen that movie. So yeah, if he'd gotten her drunk just to sleep with her that would have been wrong.
Whatever OP was implying though, I can still see why the post was removed. As much as it sucks to have such shit self esteem, it doesn't justify going specifically after girls who are too drunk to act rationally.
1 WarAndGeese 2018-05-07
I don't get that, it's never spontneous. People can say that it is but it isn't really.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
Well, I think for some people it is and for others it doesn't. I was mostly just using it to imply they weren't two people who already knew each other and had been trying to get each other's pants.
1 LegendofMilkies 2018-05-07
no, it's skeezy at worst. it may be tacky, but it's not encouraging rape.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
I guess it depends on your definition of drunk. If you're talking about intoxicated, but still fully conscious of all of her actions... Tacky, possibly skeezy. If she's falling down, incoherent, or passed the fuck out... Dude.
1 Jsm96 2018-05-07
Yeah, I don't see what's inherently wrong with wanting to "get some".
1 lanana_banana 2018-05-07
Nothing, if both parties are okay with it. If a girl is so drunk she can't even talk properly and you just take her, then yes, it can be considered a rape. Not saying that it's not the girl's fault to some extent.
1 Jsm96 2018-05-07
"So drunk she can't talk properly" is something you added. Btw, girls also go to parties to flirt with drunk guys. Why is it not considered "taking advantage of" when they do it?
1 lanana_banana 2018-05-07
If, again, the guy is too drunk and the girl "forces" him to any sexual activity he wouldn't agree with if he was sober, then of course I think that's wrong. That doesn't collide with the "both parties have to be okay with it" that I said in my first comment.
1 Jsm96 2018-05-07
And I agree with the both parties sentiment. I think it's just an issue of interpretation. Still, flirting with drunk girls is not rape.
1 lanana_banana 2018-05-07
Yes, flirting isn't rape, that we can agree on. :D
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
Well there's nothing inherently wrong with wanting to get some. It's the idea that it's easier to fuck a girl who's hammered that's wrong. If you meet a girl at a bar or a party, you're both a little tipsy, but you click and everybody is still in their right Minds? Go for it. Go home with her, do what you want to do. But the post was phrased in such a way that it could be very easily interpreted as "go to parties, specifically to find vulnerable drunk girls to fuck".
I'm the first to admit there's an awful lot of gray between the black and the white there but it's always better to err on the side of caution.
1 Jsm96 2018-05-07
True.
1 HalalHaramKabab 2018-05-07
Maybe the whore shouldn't be getting drunk at parties in the first place?
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
Classy.
1 FineGreyLine 2018-05-07
Just because other people make bad decisions doesn’t mean YOU have to make an equally bad decision.
1 cereza8 2018-05-07
I’d just add that rape > getting drunk, in terms of bad decisions.
1 behindcloseddoors1 2018-05-07
You're gonna have a bad time trying to do that
1 Crackcel 2018-05-07
This is nonsense dude. Just go to any college town and go to a frat party and everything you just said will be proven wrong.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
Have you ever been to a frat party? Because I have... And a lot of questionable shit takes place there. The fact that it happens doesn't mean it's right. Yes everybody has responsibility to take care of themselves, but that doesn't mean "go fuck drunk girls because it's easier" is ethical advice to be giving out.
1 Crackcel 2018-05-07
The only difference is that incels are ugly. So, I would actually agree with you since some of my brothers may end up in jail or in trouble.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
Well. You say that, but unethical behavior is unethical no matter who you are or what you look like. shrug
1 Moist___ 2018-05-07
No lol, Chad's can fuck drunk chicks all he wants and gets away with it because when she wakes up in the morning she doesn't regret it and doesn't call the cops because she was "raped"
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
Lmao. I don't even know why I tried with this thread... You know this isn't true. Everybody here knows this isn't true.
1 Moist___ 2018-05-07
I have 2 Chad's that I am really close friends with and they do this on the regular whenever we all party tbh
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
Now are they fucking drunk chicks that they know, who are in their right minds? Or are they fucking hammered, sideways, can't stand up and won't remember what happened last night girls? One is an ethical gray area, the other is fucked up.
1 Moist___ 2018-05-07
I've seen both happen. Like I said I'm very close friends with them and often have to pick them up the next morning with the girl in tow. They have never been accused of rape once, never.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
If they're fucking girls were passed out, that's pretty pathetic and kind of makes me doubt they're true Chad's. Chad doesn't have to resort to that, he has access to conscious sex partners. In any case, just because it hasn't backfired on them yet, doesn't mean it won't.
1 Moist___ 2018-05-07
They get pussy whenever and wherever they want. Free pussy at a party is free pussy. Chad's conquest takes the Virginities of all.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
Fucking a passed-out girl isn't free pussy. It's rape. And I'm not one just throw that around lately... I think women have a lot more agency and control than a lot of people give us credit for. But if she's passed out that's not even a gray area. Congratulations, you're friends with scum...
1 Moist___ 2018-05-07
But where the charges at tho? Chad is free from rape charges.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
I can't dispute something that I a. don't know is true, and b. isn't happening to me. I do know though that an awful lot of fraternities have been shut down over exactly the sort of shit that we're talking about so obviously there are some people out there who don't think this is all right.
I'm not even going to get into the reality of what it's like actually being raped. The embarrassment. The people who call you a whore and say that you deserved it. The people who just straight-up don't believe that it happened. The self-doubt. There are dozens of reasons why a woman would not report a rape... The fact that it's Chad has nothing to do with it.
In any case, if you want to be a decent human being not. If you care at all about not being a horrible person, don't fuck drunk, passed out women. Just don't do it. It shouldn't be that hard.
1 Crackcel 2018-05-07
You could argue it isn't unethical if the rules aren't applied to everyone equally.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
I guess I would rather try to make sure the rules are applied equally rather than say... Well this guy got away with it so you can too.
1 Crackcel 2018-05-07
There's no point. Women are fueled by their biology and nothing more.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
Yeah, that's not true. If women are fueled by biology and nothing more, so are men. Humans are self-aware. Although biology and Instinct are powerful things we're more complicated than that.
1 Jsm96 2018-05-07
Actually, a lot of people, both men and women, get drunk with the intention of getting laid. With that in mind, I wouldn't say there's anything inherently unethical about wanting to go out looking for a drunk hookup. It becomes problematic when someone keeps persisting despite getting clear signals of rejection from another person.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
Clear signals of rejection, or taking advantage of someone who isn't capable of taking care of themselves. There's another guy running around this thread who's telling me that his "chad" friends fuck unconscious girls and it's obviously okay because they haven't been charged with rape yet.
1 WarAndGeese 2018-05-07
They're not saying it's okay, they're saying society deems it as acceptable.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
Society does not deem that as acceptable. I know nobody who would claim that that is all right. Not one single person.
1 WarAndGeese 2018-05-07
Once it's laid out and clear like right now people don't see it as acceptable, but when it happens people seem fine with it. Guys respect it and wouldn't get in the way of it because of the bro code, and girls like guys like that because they're "experienced". Like I said it gets rationalized away.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
Guys respect it? They respect the fact that their friends fuck girls were passed out because they drank too much? No. No. Just no. I don't know who the fuck you're hanging out with, but that would definitely not fly with my man friends. That's how you get yourself ostracized, and possibly get the shit beaten out of you.
Similarly in the no category, women do not consider men who fuck unconscious women to be experienced. This is not a thing. This has never been a thing.
1 WarAndGeese 2018-05-07
Women don't know how the guy's had sex, they just know he's slept with a lot of women and they respect that. That's what I'm getting at when I say society deems it as acceptable.
(And same with guys really, I agree that it takes a very sleazy person who actively participate in that, but actively getting in the way of it also called cockblocking.)
1 WarAndGeese 2018-05-07
That's what a huge amount of non-celibates do though, that's how they get laid. Maybe down the road they form "healthy" relationships but by that point everything is rationalized.
Part of the reason I got little action early in life is because my colleagues did that and I didn't. Then years later I'm treated as under-experienced and they're considered normal.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
This entire thread has gone into super crazy direction. Maybe there are a few people out there in the world who think you are completely unable to give consent the moment that first sip of alcohol passes your lips, but realistically that's not how it works.
However: going to a party specifically hoping there is a girl who you know would turn you down if she were sober, that happens to be hammered enough not to say no is not okay. I've said it a million times. Don't fuck girls who are passed out. Don't fuck girls who are falling down. Don't fuck girls who are incapable of knowing what's going on. Don't fuck girls who are incapacitated.
That's really all it takes. The original thread was worded in a super ambiguous way. That's why it got taken down.
1 Cirquey_ 2018-05-07
Yeah, saying that you should be able to "get something" doesn't imply flirting... it implies taking advantage of impaired girls. It's very scary for girls to go to parties, much more so than for men. I'm glad someone said something because the reason I've taken to r/incels is because I recently had a friend in a similar situation - she went to a party, got really drunk by accident (she's 16 and doesn't really get alcohol measurements) and was pretty much raped by a 19 yo guy (not to get too judgy, but he did fit the "incel" stereotype) - he was cold sober and looking to take advantage of a younger girl. I wasn't there, but another girl who was was in the room where it happened and said she was pretty much passed out when it happened. It's not a fucking joke. It's not harmless, and it's not funny. I sat with her for almost eight hours as she cried about it, got super drunk, passed out, and tried to do it again because she was in so much pain. Ever since it happened, she's been a very different person. This encourages taking advantage of impaired people. It's very common. I know another girl (also 16) who was really drunk and high as out of it and was also borderline raped, this time by a really hot 18 yo guy. She was even told that she was "lucky". But her reaction was the same - she didn't care he was hot, she cared that he took advantage of her, and hasn't been the same since. Thinking all girls don't mind being raped by hot guys is disgusting. This mindset is revolting. Both girls were underaged and very intoxicated. If you don't find anything wrong with taking advantage of intoxicated girls, you really shouldn't go to parties. I'm 15 and won't go to parties because of this mindset. So please, stay away from drunk girls if you truly can't control yourself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1 Crackcel 2018-05-07
I guess she shouldn't have gotten passed out drunk at a party then. No sympathy from me
1 Cirquey_ 2018-05-07
Ex-fucking-cuse me? He shouldn't have taken advantage from her. Yeah, she shouldn't have, but it was in no way her fault. The blame is all his, she just made it much easier for him to take advantage of her. The situation doesn't matter, it's still wrong.
1 BF8211 2018-05-07
Yes, it's his fault for being a weirdo and having sex with her, but as a general rule for your own safety, you probably shouldn't get words slurring, immobile/blackout drunk at a fucking college party. If a man drove his Rolls Royce into Compton and he got his car stolen at gun point, people would question why the guy took his expensive car to the ghetto, while still acknowledging that the people who stole the car are in the wrong. Why can't we do the same with women at parties?
1 Crackcel 2018-05-07
It is some of her fault. Should have been smarter. She's young, hope she learned a valuable lesson she won't forget
1 Plague-Lord 2018-05-07
and the girls who attend parties and get wasted aren't looking to get some? you only bring up the R word because there's a danger of them drunkenly ending up with a sub-7 male (a fate worse than death for femoids). If it's Chad it can't be rape.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
You do realize that no where have I said having sex with a drunk girl is rape? What I said is it giving out advice telling someone to telling someone to specifically target drunk girls to fuck because it's easier is unethical. And yes, it could very easily lead to rape which is why the post got taken down.
1 Cirquey_ 2018-05-07
Yeah, saying that you should be able to "get something" doesn't imply flirting... it implies taking advantage of impaired girls. It's very scary for girls to go to parties, much more so than for men. I'm glad someone said something because the reason I've taken to r/incels is because I recently had a friend in a similar situation - she went to a party, got really drunk by accident (she's 16 and doesn't really get alcohol measurements) and was pretty much raped by a 19 yo guy (not to get too judgy, but he did fit the "incel" stereotype) - he was cold sober and looking to take advantage of a younger girl. I wasn't there, but another girl who was was in the room where it happened and said she was pretty much passed out when it happened. It's not a fucking joke. It's not harmless, and it's not funny. I sat with her for almost eight hours as she cried about it, got super drunk, passed out, and tried to do it again because she was in so much pain. Ever since it happened, she's been a very different person. This encourages taking advantage of impaired people. It's very common. I know another girl (also 16) who was really drunk and high as out of it and was also borderline raped, this time by a really hot 18 yo guy. She was even told that she was "lucky". But her reaction was the same - she didn't care he was hot, she cared that he took advantage of her, and hasn't been the same since. Thinking all girls don't mind being raped by hot guys is disgusting. This mindset is revolting. Both girls were underaged and very intoxicated. If you don't find anything wrong with taking advantage of intoxicated girls, you really shouldn't go to parties. I'm 15 and won't go to parties because of this mindset. So please, stay away from drunk girls if you truly can't control yourself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
And that is exactly why it is so important to take your safety very seriously. I know it's useless telling teenagers not to drink, but go with a group. Watch out for each other. Watch your drinks constantly and take this shit seriously. The vast majority of men are perfectly harmless and have nothing but good intentions but all it takes is one. I'm so sorry about your friends. :(
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-07
LOL wtf
well, i told you boys it was misogynistic for ugly to talk to women in 2018
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-07
Yes it is, think about all the shit women has to go through on the daily basis. You should wait until they approach you or until they show some interest before you try. It’s called being a normal human being
1 Kerfash889 2018-05-07
LMFAO.
Being a normal human being means a woman can’t approach a girl first? jesus christ
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-07
No a guy can approach a girl but only if SHE shows interests towards the guy first.
1 Kerfash889 2018-05-07
lmfao why?
How about girls can’t show interest in a guy unless HE shows interest towards the girl first. Equality
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-07
They do. Men fucks anything that moves so they already show interests to every girl he sees. You haven’t noticed all the guys always checking out women before?
1 Kerfash889 2018-05-07
Yeah, that's not blatantly sexist.
1 andtheywontstopcomin 2018-05-07
Your soy levels are off the fucking rails
1 BF8211 2018-05-07
I'm convinced that this guy is a troll, there's no way someone can be that big of a pussy.
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-05-07
Reddit is filled to the brim with idiots infected by current day SJW nonsense. Just watch this guy cucking himself, "think of all the stuff wymyn have to deal with." JFL, what a beta limp wrist.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
I actually disagree with this. Go ahead and approach. Just be chill about it and if she turns you down accept it gracefully. We're not made of spun sugar and we don't melt in the rain.
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-07
Men are already given this advice and look how much problems it causes. Most Men can’t take a hint when a women turns them down so it’s better to tell them to not approach until a women shows them interest first
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
You don't give them enough credit. There are a few assholes out there who are overly agressive and don't take no for an answer...they aren't going to listen to your "don't approach " advice anyway.
The vast majority of men are perfectly respectful and I'd rather tell the occasional overly agressive jackass to leave me alone than assume all guys are the same.
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1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
I hate this bot. No offense bot.
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-07
You might not get approached a lot but getting approached +5 times everyday gets old really quickly. And some of my female friends tells me they get approached even more than that daily. So it’s much more practical for a guy not to approach until they are shown interest
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
Sorry. Men have the right to approach me, and i have the right to turn them down. Why be offended because somebody wants to make a connection? I will never understand this.
1 ShadowMforce 2018-05-07
You would be singing a different tune if you were getting approached +5 times every single day. Trust me. But we can agree to disagree
1 DrillWormBazookaMan 2018-05-07
Oh the humanity! How difficult life must be to have to go through people showing interest in you.
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
Since you know nothing about me or my life, you're right, we can agree to disagree.
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-07
No woman has ever approached me in 33 years, nor shown any interest. What now, genius?
1 bengalsturntup5532 2018-05-07
I agree but they don't want you to approach not even online ,unless you are hot. You just get the vibes she's not interested from the beginning,and most of the time say something rude .
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-07
You mean living life on easy mode?
Think of all the shit a man has to go through on a daily basis. Our lives are objectively way worse.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-05-07
You are wise beyond your years, brother.
1 mittrinilli 2018-05-07
When drunk girls grind on guys it's ok fam amirite?
1 HalalHaramKabab 2018-05-07
No it is not. He is a rapist.
1 mittrinilli 2018-05-07
He should have checked his male privilege first
1 CHAD_THUNDERCUCK 2018-05-07
They have no accountability for their actions and society perpetuates their childlessness
1 CHAD_THUNDERCUCK 2018-05-07
"she is being sex positive and liberated!ugogurl"
1 DEPTHERROR 2018-05-07
There is nothing rapey at all, it’s only because he posted here and she has never been invited to a party before. Why the fuck do people drink? Who denies drunk people don’t have a tendency to fuck more than sober people
1 Joemo55 2018-05-07
Any other sub on reddit that would be fine. I keep warning all of you that she's gone fucking mad with power and is just trying to see how much she can get away with
1 Crackcel 2018-05-07
She is desperately trying to change the tone of this forum. The other mods need to take a vote and kick her ass out.
1 Mr_StealYoGirl69 2018-05-07
it's fair game if you're both drunk. fuck anyone if they tell u otherwise.
1 geneticwaste43 2018-05-07
It's only ok when chad does it.
1 Toolman890 2018-05-07
All she does is disagree with us and obstruct us, even stretching the truth to abuse her power to do so as shown in your example. Fuck that dude who created this sub and let this happen.. when he was called out on it he was such a passive beta who couldn't answer the issues about her at all. And then he leaves and gives it all to her instead of removing her! holy fuck loser males always hand it, whatever it is, to women and make it worse for everyone. what an idiot
1 Jsm96 2018-05-07
On top of that, any alternative sub we try to make gets instabanned. It's this sub or nothing.
1 Toolman890 2018-05-07
has anyone tried making an incognito sub? don't write anything about incel, use words like 'sexually frustrated' or something instead
1 HalalHaramKabab 2018-05-07
There exusts many of these subs but they only have about one or two posts per day.
1 Ub2w 2018-05-07
r/incelistan will not be banned since it was created before r/incels ban
1 CHAD_THUNDERCUCK 2018-05-07
/r/gymcels as well
1 ManGoingtoTOWn 2018-05-07
What? LOL. You handed your incel sub over to a woman?
HAHAHA!
I don't think anything could be more perfect.
1 Toolman890 2018-05-07
yeah i know, it's pathetic
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-05-07
Guess a cuck will always be a cuck, shame.
1 bengalsturntup5532 2018-05-07
Drunk girls wouldn't be rape if their awake,now if they are passed out not knowing what's going on then yeah.drunk people at parties fuck all the time since who knows when.
1 HalalHaramKabab 2018-05-07
Lol I've been banned for that exact reason. Onky she said "Removed for glorifying rape".
I didn't even know that forcey fun tine was called rape in the US. Strange Americans.
1 futmut 2018-05-07
Cant help but notice her autism from a long time now...she shouldnt even use the internet let alone make her a mod😂
1 HeckAndRespect 2018-05-07
You haven’t said anything about “flirting” no shit it’s gonna sound like you are encouraging rape
1 Jsm96 2018-05-07
Trying to get with drunk girls is not rape. Girls try to get with drunk guys too. Why is it not rape when they do it?
1 HeckAndRespect 2018-05-07
I have not said anything about that.
1 Jsm96 2018-05-07
Great, but trying to get with drunk girls still isn't rape.
1 HeckAndRespect 2018-05-07
sure you can go flirt with them, but no way in hell try to fuck them while you or them being intoxicated
1 Jsm96 2018-05-07
Why not? People have drunk sex all the time. Getting laid is a very common motive for getting drunk for both men and women.
1 HeckAndRespect 2018-05-07
Because they are not in the right state of mind they’re drunk, They don’t know if they want or not, If they found out and didn’t want it you’re fucked
1 Jsm96 2018-05-07
What about people who have drunk sex and like it? Would you still consider it rape in those cases because they weren't in the right state of mind to decide?
1 HeckAndRespect 2018-05-07
Still had no consent So yes it is still rape.
1 Jsm96 2018-05-07
Ok, just so we're clear, you think every instance of drunk sex is rape?
1 HeckAndRespect 2018-05-07
No, There’s people who are in a relationship and obviously fine with it if they talked about it after they are all sobered up. And somethings like that
1 LadiesLovetheBalls1 2018-05-07
So if a man and a women, both drunk, meet at a bar and end up having sex, who is the rapist in that scenario? The man? The woman? Or perhaps did they both rape each other?
1 elizabets 2018-05-07
The law in my country disagrees with you. If one party is sober and decides to seek out sex from intoxicated persons, that shows intent. Having sex would be sexual assault. This is the same regardless of the sexes of the people involved (i.e. a woman can assault a man, a woman can assault a woman, a man can assault a man, a man can assault a woman).
1 Jsm96 2018-05-07
I never said anything about doing it sober.
1 elizabets 2018-05-07
The law in my country states you making the sober decision to go there for the purpose of having sex with a drunk girl is enough to show intent, regardless of how intoxicated you are when you have sex.
Let’s look at this scenario and changes the sexes around. Sober gay dude decides he’s going to a Frat keg party to have sex with a drunk guy there. He goes, gets drunk, fucks a willing but drunk guy. That’s sexual assault.
1 Jsm96 2018-05-07
Ok? Maybe try moving to a country with less stupid laws.
1 elizabets 2018-05-07
Let’s see. My country allows medical euthanasia, marijuana, has no death penalty, and universal health care. I think it’s pretty good.
Also, if you end up getting fucked up the ass by a drunk gay dude, and you’re too drunk to stop it, that’s not sexual assault?
1 BF8211 2018-05-07
You are literally saying that you can't go to a frat party hoping you get laid, when they literally exist so students at the school can get laid. Stop being obtuse and stop looking for an excuse to cry rape when ugly men want to try and have some fun for once.
1 elizabets 2018-05-07
I’m quoting the law. That’s it.
1 EverythingIsSoSincur 2018-05-07
According to Whore_Gaming, the satirical post, "The Man Who Learned Not to be the Pushover That Women Hate" was "glorifying violence."
According to Whore_Gaming, Sacha Baron Cohen's "Throw the Jew Down the Well" is glorifying violence towards Jews.
Whore_Gaming is a retard.
1 bonusfruit 2018-05-07
Why dont you boyos abandon this becuckled sub already
1 wh0mping 2018-05-07
Wow that's ridiculous. Is it "rape" to solicit girls who are ovulating because they'd be more likely to fuck? Because drunk (not incapacitated, just drunk) girls are going to have lower inhibitions and might fuck someone they otherwise wouldn't.
1 keyandfeels 2018-05-07
I mean for ugly guys looking at a woman can send you to the slammer so she isn't lying.
1 Matthew15651 2018-05-07
BOARD_BOOBING, if you see this you are AS BAD as a RAPSIT WHO JUST FOUND PUT BONERS ARE REAL
1 StrikingLengthiness 2018-05-07
BBW_Gaming
1 YouAreWrongKid 2018-05-07
Your fault for giving a western White woman mod
1 Board_Gaming 2018-05-07
There are no issues with flirting and joking around with girls at a party. Parties are meant for people to have fun.
Attempting to take advantage of someone who is drunk and cannot consent is not okay.
The original post said "get anything". This did not imply simply flirting with girls, but implied something more malicious.
Rape is illegal, and any posts or comments glorifying or encouraging rape of people of any gender are against Reddit's content policy and will be removed.
1 wh0mping 2018-05-07
Being drunk and being so drunk that you have lost possession of your mental faculties and thus can't give consent are two different things. It's not rape, and it's not illegal to have sex with someone who is drunk. What IS illegal is having sex with someone who is so drunk that they aren't in any state of mind where they are capable of consenting. I haven't seen anybody advocating the latter. (and if they do, they should be banned)
1 Jsm96 2018-05-07
Trying to hook up with someone while drunk is not rape.
1 Easy_Toast 2018-05-07
.............
1 Bumbling-failure 2018-05-07
*Claps in normie*
1 hemmorhoidvania 2018-05-07
The original post said nothing about doing anything to girls who are too drunk to consent, so it should be fine.
1 El_Tigrex 2018-05-07
He's clearly talking about mingling with girls who are buzzed, not forcing himself on a girl too drunk to know what's happening.
1 Bustin_Ed 2018-05-07
Shut the fuck up cunt
1 SocialistTyrone 2018-05-07
Gtfo as mod.
1 haterwsky 2018-05-07
A recent google poll said rapejokes ar e funny to the general of population, so suck on that AI board of cocks
1 BonePressed 2018-05-07
bbw_gaming
1 Fuknmods 2018-05-07
Then why ban someone saying "go flirt lol"
He did no such thing
Getting attention is the same as go get pussy now? Getting a smile or social inclusion is rape now? Seriously, how are you a mod here?
He made no such statement. Go back to cucktears faggot.
1 crimson_vivian 2018-05-07
You've got the be the daftest cunt ive ever seen in my entire life.
1 Kondijote 2018-05-07
If a sober woman has sex with a drunk man, nobody calls it rape. I'm totally disappointed at you u/Board_Gaming. Now I understand why most users don't want you here.
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1 horni4pony69 2018-05-07
Why is board_gaming still a mod fucking can her already Dumb washed up whore
1 NoNefariousness6 2018-05-07
Board_Gaming is an IncelTears plant
This sub is compromised
1 djdhinfkdlf 2018-05-07
Use a pillow if she struggles too much
1 Ryzasu 2018-05-07
If she consents while drunk it's still not rape, if I'm drunk and I consent that I have to pay a million dollars, I have to. Getting drunk is a choice.
1 sfcel 2018-05-07
What's the definition of "cannot consent"? How many grams of alcohol does a woman must have in their blood until they cannot consent? With your laughably loose definition millions of women are being raped every time they go out to get a drink. Get out.
1 realmonkeycel 2018-05-07
I think it's funny how incels know more about how college parties work than "normal" people.
1 brazilianincel 2018-05-07
Seth wanted her to be drunk because that's the only way that she would be interested in him. He saw him self so much lower than her that the only way that she would hook up with him is if she dropped all her standards (this is a common belief about being drunk at parties) and that's what I think op tried to imply, if you are so ugly that even girls when they have little to no standards are very disinhibited then it's over for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR042MD-Jqc
1 Yeahso_no 2018-05-07
I guess it depends on your definition of drunk. If you're talking about intoxicated, but still fully conscious of all of her actions... Tacky, possibly skeezy. If she's falling down, incoherent, or passed the fuck out... Dude.
1 WarAndGeese 2018-05-07
I don't get that, it's never spontneous. People can say that it is but it isn't really.
1 Jsm96 2018-05-07
I never said anything about doing it sober.