Lol all the enemies of the virgins try to tell us why we are virgins. The truth they cannot grasp is this, you're a virgin because you're not married nor are you a whore, simple. They want o make us ashamed of our honor because they lost theirs!

Lol well I hope you marry your One true love and she is good to you and you try be a decent fucker instead of a whore, but we'll see. The way of the fuckers is fuckery, all is fucked for them.

The way of the fuckers is fuckery, all is fucked for them.

-- Gandalf

Our enemies are beta cucked normies, not chads. Chads are as much aware of the plackpill as we are.

No the Chads are our enemies they killed many of the Legendarycels. I mean FFS Herod the Chad cut of John the Baptistcel's head because he told Chad fucking his brother's wife is not fucking kosher bro and that roasty was pissed and made her daughter seduce dance him and then trap him an oath to chop of John's head. The Cha'ds are funny at a distance but they will always cockblock you and they might literally fucking kill you just because "you shoulda gotta ahead bro"

I like your version of the tale, still laughing.

Lol it's a paraphrase and the original is better admittedly.

You're crazy. Chad doesn't have to kill an incel to compete for females.

Chad doesn't do it to compete for females. He did it because the THOT told him to and he gives you the fake tears and cuts your head off when you did not fuck anyone. They fuckers fuck each other and are fucked for all eternity. They're only trying to validate themselves. That's why their bullshit advice always is tantamount to how to get fucked or the rope.

There's nothing wrong with being a virgin, and people who put down others for being one are honestly pathetic. :/

thanks bro

You look like one of the rat people of Pakistan.

https://i.imgur.com/IpAyrD4.jpg

You could make a million teaching incels that chin move.

How tall are you?

you prolly mog inceltears

Personality is such a cope

Hard mogs me.

I’m sure he still mogs you

I think I'm better looking than him.

I have a friend who looks like Shrek. He is tall, but that's about it. He's bald, fat, has the protruding caveman brow.

He got divorced a year ago and has had three different girlfriends in that time. He's gone on dates from Bumble and Tinder.

How did he manage this in the incel universe? Sure, he's a great guy and very funny...but he isn't attractive. How is he having sex? How did he get married originally????

He's white

he's tall

He's a tall rich white man going after short brown poor Asians.

/casesolved

I dont know why in this sub the whitness is pointed out so much. Sure maybe not asians and indians but black men are chased by women. A femoid that see a black penis reach the nirvana

Only tall attractive or ghetto black guys. It's over for narutocels

He is tall

I was unaware that simply being tall was enough to get you laid. But I guess I'm not surprised that incels have an excuse for everything.

So balding isn't a problem, face isn't a problem, as long as you're tall.

How old was he? If he was in his thirties then it's probably b/c of post wall women.

He's 40.

There's no such thing as post-wall. The women I've seen him date have been not my cup of tea, and a little on the heavier side, but pretty enough I guess. About what I'd expect for him, honestly.

ok, "The wall" may not exist as a concrete thing, but it's true that over time men have an easier time dating, especially at 40. How do you think a bald, fat 25 year old guy would do on Bumble/Tinder? Probably shitty.

Probably not that great. But bald, fat guys in their 20's usually end up dating fat girls in their 20's. Despite incel dogma, all women are not holding out for the hottest guy they can get. Many are happy anyone wants them at all.

Despite incel dogma, all women are not holding out for the hottest guy they can get. Many are happy anyone wants them at all.

I agree, but I think the number of women who would be happy with fat bald guys in their 20s is pretty low, like maybe 5% of women. And these 5% of women would probably be able to get with at least average looking guys on Tinder or Bumble. That puts legitimately ugly people in their 20s at a massive disadvantage. This disadvantage may not make it impossible to get a gf, but it certainly makes it very hard. And can we really fault people who try something very difficult and fail?

I agree, but I think the number of women who would be happy with fat bald guys in their 20s is pretty low, like maybe 5% of women.

Disagree. Things are not nearly as doomed as you think. A large number of my friends are overweight and all of them had relationships in their 20's. Usually with much smaller women, actually.

And can we really fault people who try something very difficult and fail?

Most incels I don't think have even put in a reasonable effort. Some certainly have. But most did the easy stuff, like working out and dressing well, then got rejected once, didn't like how it felt, didn't analyze what about their behavior may be lacking, and then declared it's over and blamed women.

Incels totally disregard personality and social skills as being a contributing factor. So they don't even bother working on those. No amount of working out or dressing well is going to help if you can't hold a conversation.

A large number of my friends are overweight and all of them had relationships in their 20's. Usually with much smaller women, actually.

Are they bald, though? TBH, unless you're extremely overweight, being a bit fat isn't that much of a turnoff, and can easily be hidden with clothing that fits well.

Most incels I don't think have even put in a reasonable effort. Some certainly have. But most did the easy stuff, like working out and dressing well, then got rejected once, didn't like how it felt, didn't analyze what about their behavior may be lacking, and then declared it's over and blamed women. Incels totally disregard personality and social skills as being a contributing factor. So they don't even bother working on those. No amount of working out or dressing well is going to help if you can't hold a conversation.

I disagree completely. Most incels I have talked to, and myself included, have put in a lot of effort to get laid. You act like working out, dressing well, etc. is easy. It really isn't. Taking care of your body is a lifelong mission that can take up a substantial part of your day. And it's not like incels did the bare minimum, failed once, and thought "I'm doomed." The way we think is a result of years of rejection and social isolation. Most of us really have tried everything in the book.

Not to mention, do you realize how difficult it is to "work on your social skills?" If you have a social disability (which I'm sure many incels do), and you have been bullied or rejected your whole life, then of course you're going to have poor social skills. Fixing that is very difficult. Imagine you're an adult, working a 40 hour a week job in a place where you have no friends or gfs. How exactly are you supposed to make friends? It's can be quite difficult even for some guy with average social skills, forget someone who is pretty ugly and has terrible social acumen from years of rejection. Normies act like "working on ourselves/social skills" is the key to everything, but they almost never provide a concrete, effective plan of doing this.

Are they bald, though?

A couple of them are balding with varying degrees of gracefulness.

You act like working out, dressing well, etc. is easy.

It's easy in the sense that you put in the work, you get out the result. It's very objective like that. Personality and behavior are a lot more subjective and sometimes, no matter how smooth you are, some people just won't like you.

Imagine you're an adult, working a 40 hour a week job in a place where you have no friends or gfs. How exactly are you supposed to make friends?

I agree that I can be challenging. But not impossible. After two years of near total social isolation where I could count my friends on three fingers I managed to develop a pretty substantial social circle just by being places where stuff I enjoy doing was happening. I got involved in stuff, socializing happened, I made friends and even met my girlfriend.

Normies act like "working on ourselves/social skills" is the key to everything, but they almost never provide a concrete, effective plan of doing this.

First, get therapy and actually deal with all those feelings. Another incels like to yell is that therapy doesn't work. So they hamstring themselves from the start.

Next, do social things and fail. Go to groups or classes that you're interested in. If you're not interested in anything, why is it surprising that no one wants to spend time with you? Hopefully between putting yourself on these situations and analyzing the results with a trained therapist you'll start to improve your social skills. Develop a group of friends related to one of your interests.

Now you're ready to try dating and fail at that for a while. Get used to failing and being rejected. Work on not taking it personally. Get advice from women in your social circle.

Incels often put the cart before the horse. They want a girlfriend, but they have no friends. First, not having friends is a red flag. Second, if you don't have friends you probably don't have the social skills to be dating effectively.

There. A concrete plan that I sincerely doubt most incels have honestly attempted.

A couple of them are balding with varying degrees of gracefulness.

How many of them are completely bald in their early 20s? That would be a great hindrance, I think we can both agree.

I agree that I can be challenging. But not impossible. After two years of near total social isolation where I could count my friends on three fingers I managed to develop a pretty substantial social circle just by being places where stuff I enjoy doing was happening. I got involved in stuff, socializing happened, I made friends and even met my girlfriend.

Ok, well you DID have a few friends, so it's not really comparable. And guess what? A lot of incels DO get involved in clubs and shit, and try to socialize, but just don't make any friends. It's not the same for everyone.

Therapy can be bogus. Normally they will just spew normie platitudes. Most therapists don't actually understand what it's like being FA, and aren't of much help. I've had experience with a few, and I feel like they just didn't get it.

Once, again, a lot of us incels have tried being social. I know I have. I've attended clubs, I talk to people, and I've failed a lot, but I don't feel like I've learned anything. People like to think of socializing as a skill, one that you can approve. And to a degree that's definitely true. But think about math or reading. Those are both skills. yet someone with dyscalculia or dyslexia is going to struggle no matter how much time they've put in and how much they have tried.

And a lot of Incels have followed your advice, because it's given to us so often. A lot of incels try sincerely to get friends and socialize and just fail repeatedly. What then?

Ok, well you DID have a few friends, so it's not really comparable.

One thing I've noticed about incels is that they never believe their situation is comparable to anything. But they can't provide any insight in to why it's different. It's just "over."

Therapy can be bogus. Normally they will just spew normie platitudes. Most therapists don't actually understand what it's like being FA, and aren't of much help.

Sure, if you dismiss all advice as "normie platitudes" then obviously you are not engaging in good faith. What are you expecting from therapy?

Once, again, a lot of us incels have tried being social. I know I have. I've attended clubs, I talk to people, and I've failed a lot, but I don't feel like I've learned anything.

So you feel that you are capable of effectively socializing, but due to your looks no one will ever even be your friend? If you haven't learned from your failures then you don't have sufficient capacity for self reflection, which is why an objective third party like a therapist would be helpful. There's probably forms of group therapy for people with social disabilities or anxiety. Look in to that.

Sure, if you dismiss all advice as "normie platitudes" then obviously you are not engaging in good faith. What are you expecting from therapy?

Funny, since I actually FOLLOWED these normie platitudes. I dressed better, started exercising, did more clubs, etc. but they didn't work. I call them platitudes after the fact, knowing that they are largely ineffective for a lot of incels.

So you feel that you are capable of effectively socializing, but due to your looks no one will ever even be your friend?

That's not what I said. I think I have terrible social skills due to having Asperger's, which has caused me to have very few friends. I have gone to a therapist, also, but it didn't really work b/c I got more of the same advice that led me know where in the first place. I might look into the group therapy, though, but IDK how much it's going to help.

You normies just think that all we incels do is sit around and complain about not getting laid. You guys overlook that many of us have gone through a lot of effort to try and fix ourselves, but with little success.

Because the women are also ugly?

I thought incels complained that even getting your looksmatch was impossible. That women only want Chad. So which is it?

dump her for fun from me

bet she's a landwhale at best

True. Personality means next to nothing.

Well look at my post history and you'll see my amazing personality, according to the brigaders women should scan my reddit posts and see that I'm a misogynist online, but apparently their scans are broken because I have a GF and had multiple gfs before.

Nuclear blackpill: having a good personality matters way more than people will admit, but having a "good" personality means having an attractive personality, not a personality that makes you a good person.

Mostly because anytime someone here is mean or rude to a women they in turn say it's our personalities that cause us to be incel, effectively equating meanness/rudeness with bad personality and the converse; niceness/politeness with a good personality.

If women were honest it wouldn't be an issue, but the truth wouldn't exactly benefit womens case though.

Actually it's probs your personality.

Same I’m a huge piece of shy, but I’m 6’3 muscular and not bad looking. Still get hit on every party I go to

Despite incel dogma, all women are not holding out for the hottest guy they can get. Many are happy anyone wants them at all.

I agree, but I think the number of women who would be happy with fat bald guys in their 20s is pretty low, like maybe 5% of women. And these 5% of women would probably be able to get with at least average looking guys on Tinder or Bumble. That puts legitimately ugly people in their 20s at a massive disadvantage. This disadvantage may not make it impossible to get a gf, but it certainly makes it very hard. And can we really fault people who try something very difficult and fail?

Ok, well you DID have a few friends, so it's not really comparable.

One thing I've noticed about incels is that they never believe their situation is comparable to anything. But they can't provide any insight in to why it's different. It's just "over."

Therapy can be bogus. Normally they will just spew normie platitudes. Most therapists don't actually understand what it's like being FA, and aren't of much help.

Sure, if you dismiss all advice as "normie platitudes" then obviously you are not engaging in good faith. What are you expecting from therapy?

Once, again, a lot of us incels have tried being social. I know I have. I've attended clubs, I talk to people, and I've failed a lot, but I don't feel like I've learned anything.

So you feel that you are capable of effectively socializing, but due to your looks no one will ever even be your friend? If you haven't learned from your failures then you don't have sufficient capacity for self reflection, which is why an objective third party like a therapist would be helpful. There's probably forms of group therapy for people with social disabilities or anxiety. Look in to that.