If we're not doing anything wrong but protesting about being oppressed and are actively being called terrorists, how is that different from Palestinian refugees being called terrorists?

Do you have organised militia groups conducting terrorist attacks alongside you?

“About being oppressed”

Lmao

Society hates us for something we can't control and ignores our suffering.

we can’t control

Yeah cause certainly someone whose tag is “women are psychopaths” is a totally normal guy who is just an innocent victim

Ad hominem. Typical.

That's not an ad hominem since it's on topic. You claim that

Society hates us for something we can't control and ignores our suffering.

but you control your perception. You're cultivating it here in a negative way.

That's not an ad hominem since it's on topic.

Do you know what ad hominem is?

but you control your perception. You're cultivating your perception of women here in a negative way.

I control my perception of what? A society that judges us our entire life over something we can't control?

What exactly do you want from incels? To just keep smiling while being hit?

ad ho·mi·nemˌad ˈhämənəm/adverb & adjective

1. 1.(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.

The position was that you're hated because of things that are out of your control but you choose to have the tag Women are psychopaths which is to say you choose to perceive women as psychopaths, which is well within your own control. It's exemplified by you choosing to be apart of this sub that helps and encourages you perceive women this way.

What exactly do you want from incels?

For you to try to develop a better world view instead of bringing each other down with words that only support a very skewed way of viewing life. I hope you guys are just at a rough time in your life and find some real support someday.

The position was that you're hated because of things that are out of your control but you choose to have the tag Women are psychopaths which is to say you choose to perceive women as psychopaths, which is well within your own control. It's exemplified by you choosing to be apart of this sub that helps and encourages you perceive women this way.

How does my tag have anything to do with the claim that society hates us because of our looks? It's pretty clear that you didn't feel like engaging with my actual position.

For you to try to develop a better world view instead of bringing each other down with words that only support a very skewed way of viewing life. I hope you guys are just at a rough time in your life and find some real support someday.

Sure thing buddy, maybe when society stops hating us.

Nobody said a thing about your looks, you're looking at this conversation with a completely different context then it is intended to have. The oppression you guys get from reddit can't be based on your looks since reddit users can't see you. It's your perception of the world that is worrisome and we can have a discussion about.

Nobody said a thing about your looks

I did.

The oppression you guys get from reddit can't be based on your looks since reddit users can't see you. It's your perception of the world that is worrisome and we can have a discussion about.

I was talking about society, not reddit. Making things up now, is that what we're doing?

Where in this thread did you bring up looks before now?

I was talking about society

Right, and I was explaining that the hate you get from society isn't exclusively from looks but more so your world view as exemplified by the hate you tend to get from reddit which can't judge you by your looks.

Where in this thread did you bring up looks before now?

Looks is something we can't control. Or can you mold your face?

Right, and I was explaining that the hate you get from society isn't exclusively from looks but more so your world view as exemplified by the hate you tend to get from reddit which can't judge you by your looks.

Where in this thread did I mention reddit oppressing incels?

Beyond the fact of whether looks can or can't be controlled most people hate on incels because of the world view you have which is the context of this conversation and why the original comment wasn't an ad hominem.

Where in this thread did I mention reddit oppressing incels?

I've been using it as an example to get you to see past looks. You're focusing way to much on it.

Beyond the fact of whether looks can or can't be controlled most people hate on incels because of the world view you have which is the context of this conversation and why the original comment wasn't an ad hominem.

But I never said that you can't change your personality? You just brought it up for no reason at all.

I've been using it as an example to get you to see past looks. You're focusing way to much on it.

You're making shit up. Got it.

And I never said a thing about looks. You brought it up for no reason at all. When the comment said that your hated for something out of your control we both took it different ways. You thought it was about your looks and I took it as being an incel as a whole. You’re still centering in looks when that’s the last thing I’m trying to talk about in this discussion.

Why did you strawman my position and assume I said something I didn't?

Did you just learn about fallacies? You're using them wrong and projecting.

Society hates us for something we can't control and ignores our suffering

No where in that quote did you state that your argument was based on your looks. The context of the rest of the conversation was rightfully based on being an incel as a whole since that was what the comment that you replied to was referencing. You can't change the context based on your own assumptions without anyone else in the conversation knowing. That's rediculous.

How did my flair have anything to do with the claim I was making?

You've already asked this question.

And I'd like to hear your answer.

It made sense in the context of the conversation.

It didn't?

Great rebuttal.

Thanks buddy.

> should get used to it by now.

You meant to say should be used to it by now. What you said doesn't make any sense, which I am used to by now.

Do you actually have an argument against anything I have said?

Just trying to help your grammar is all, bud.

Oh look, someone shouting “ad hominem” with a third grade understanding of what that means.

We are discussing you and people like you, it is therefore entirely expected that I would say something about you since the topic of discussion was whether or not you could control those events. Displaying things like “women are psychopaths” is evidence of the fact that part of your proble isn’t the world of how you look, it’s your attitude.

Oh look, someone shouting “ad hominem” with a third grade understanding of what that means.

I mean we can stop using that word if it's a triggerword for you, but what you did was absolutely ad hominem.

We are discussing you and people like you, it is therefore entirely expected that I would say something about you since the topic of discussion was whether or not you could control those events. Displaying things like “women are psychopaths” is evidence of the fact that part of your proble isn’t the world or how you look, it’s your attitude.

You brought up my flair for no reason at all. It had absolutely nothing to do with the claim that society judges people for their looks. You didn't actually feel like engaging with my position so you just felt the need to attack me personally.

no reason

You’re just wrong. When we’re talking about “things you can and can’t control,” pointing out your flair, which you can objectively control and reflects your mindset, is a totally relevant point

Nope, not triggering, it’s just dumb that people think shouting “AD HOMINEMMMM” is at all a convincing argument especially when talking about a person.

Mentioning something completely unrelated to the point being made is not a convincing argument, buddy.

You’re just wrong. When we’re talking about “things you can and can’t control,” pointing out your flair, which you can objectively control and reflects your mindset, is a totally relevant point. That’s like saying it’s an appeal to authority to point out what studies say about some scientific question.

You are claiming we were talking about things we weren't talking about. You were attacking a figment of your imagination instead of my actual argument. Making shit up now, is that what we're doing?

Yeah, you can control your hatred for women and jealousy of successful men.

That would be internalized lookism. It's not my fault that I was born an ugly male. They are evil for not sharing with us.

So are hot men obligated to sleep with fuck ugly women?

No. Just don't fuck hundreds of women.

OH MY GOD WOMEN DON'T WANT TO HOOK UP WITH ME HOW DARE SOCIETY OPPRESS ME??? IT DOESN'T MEAN I'M A BAD PERSON JUST BECAUSE I CONSTANTLY SAY THAT WOMEN ARE SUBHUMAN GARBAGE HEAPS!!!

1. Nobody thinks you're terrorists. They joke, but there's really no threat posed by a bunch of angry, lonely virgin men who have no plans of uprising to overthrow.... women?? There's nothing you guys would really fight against I guess.
2. Y'all, saying that you hate women and that you're "oppressed" by "society" is fine, you just can't complain when people don't want to sleep with you, be around you, work with you, etc. Free speech does not mean speech free from consequences. Continue to spout your beliefs as long as they aren't actively hurting people and I couldn't care less, just don't be surprised when people react negatively.
3. Y'all are owed basic human rights. Sex and love are not basic human rights. Though y'all seem to disagree, women are owed just as important as men, and do not owe you sex. Nobody owes you sex. The "distribution" of sex is just called institutionalized rape. Just sayin'.

y'all

I'm horrified - how could y'all know that I, a native southerner, dares to use the word y'all. I take comfort in this comment, as you attacking my word choice instead of my content makes me feel like my logic is valid.

tl;dr: y'all gotta shower bruh

Do you think an incel has a moral obligation to help a woman being raped?

Palestinian refugees aren’t called terrorists. Palestinian terrorists are called terrorists, stupid ass.

“what is a reply button”

He has low IQ... Just like we're involuntarily ugly, he's involuntarily mentally retarded... Don't bully for involuntary traits man.

get lost you disgusting kike lover

Or you’ll do what?

kek

I don’t know

Ah yes, turn the bromide own memes against them. Genius.

fucking Twitter...

look at the way incels have acted when they have their own board, you've gotten those privileges taken from you like a child time and time again for acting out. incels are scum and deserve everything that happens to them, or should i say.. doesn't happen to them. we all respect natural selection and that's why nobody feels bad for you. the weak are weeded out. you will die alone.

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Do you actually have an argument against anything I have said?