Completely not true. I ask out guys and get ignored or rejected quite a bit.

Last guy she asked out. https://www.google.com/search?q=hot+guy&client=ms-android-verizon&prmd=ivsn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjjwaWV2_HaAhXww1kKHZ4fCPYQ_AUIESgB&biw=360&bih=560#imgrc=Tz3jXVQOFRHsfM:

The last guy I asked out was a mid-20s virgin and I don't know what he looked like.

we're talking about real life and you're using a random convo on the internet with no photos as your example to disagree......

Friendly tip mid-20s guys don’t want a 41 year old woman 99.99999% of time. This is why you FA btw. Insane standards

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Did he knew how YOU look like?

No.

Then you weren't "rejected" you dumb cunt.

It's definitely relevant. You say that women will ignore guys, but guys ignore and reject women too.

You're probably asking out gay guys then

I'm not asking out gay guys. I'm asking out guys who post M4F.

Girls really take that place serious?

Yes I've been searching on r/r4r for well over a year.

How much of a fatty bum bum are you?

not that it matters because even fat women find bfs easily

Yeah I agree I've seen some real ugly fatties on dating sites that are really stuck up. Why not try pof or a real dating site.i assume on Reddit people don't take it serious because they are far .

Maybe if you had a dragon fursuit, you wouldn't get rejected as often.

Dragons have scales, not fur.

Yeah but if you asked 'come "fuck me and fulfill my needs" They will all oblige. If you turn out to be a sex maniac You Might get Chad for life.

You see Women always get what they want no matter what. We on other hand...

Women don't always get what they want. I want a decent, moral guy for a long-term relationship. I don't want casual sex with random guys.

I want a decent, moral guy for a long-term relationship

And you're an old used-up fat whore with a terrible personality who literally can't even cook.

So you're trying to shame me for not knowing how to cook? Really? I can buy food from the grocery store or go to restaurants. Knowing how to cook is not an issue.

I'm definitely not a whore.

"Old" is subjective. Seeing as how many guys on this sub are between 18-22, then they see any woman older than them as "old".

Yeah. You want a decent and moral person but you can't even cook a meal.

Cooking a meal has nothing to do with having a relationship.

It could. People want different things in relationships.

If a guy needed me to cook a meal every night for me to be in a relationship with him, then obviously I'm not the girl for him.

cooking is literally one of the easiest activities in the world, if you can't even be bothered to cook basic meals it simply demonstrates you're lazy which is a very negative attribute.

Cooking is not one of the easiest activities in the world.

Saying that would be like saying "dating is one of the easiest activities in the world, if you can't even be bothered to just go out and date someone, it simply demonstrates you're lazy which is a very negative attribute."

err, yes it is. we are talking basic home meals here. here's how to make a basic chicken stir fry:

put noodles in bowl, pour boiling water over noodles, use fork to break it up after 2 mins, empty into strainer

cut up chicken, put it in fry pan, stir until it's cooked

add vegies stir for a couple of mins

add sauce from packet

add noodles

cook for a couple mins

serve

wow so hard.... no one's asking you to be masterchef. pretty much all basic meals have the same skill level i.e absolute zero. a 5yr old can literally cook these meals. and you're saying it's too hard.... i now see why you're fat. you have a very negative and lazy attitude.

I can brown ground beef to make tacos, but I have no idea how to do real cooking like making a meatloaf or making a turkey dinner for Thanksgiving.

Are you fat? Nobody likes fat chicks.

Yeah they do,I even like bbws

Yeah they do,I even like bbws

Have you tried showering?

He's saying you're aiming out of your league. And you are.

probably shouldve considered that before your value dried up.

Completely not true. I ask out guys Chads and get ignored or rejected quite a bit.

ftfy

I don't ask out Chads. I ask out guys from r4r. People on this sub have said Chads don't use Reddit, so ergo, I don't ask out Chads.

I don't only ask out Chads. I ask out guys Chads from r4r. People on this sub have said Chads don't use Reddit, so ergo, I don'tonly ask out Chads.

ftfy

Okay, obviously you're just trolling.

Okay, obviously you're just trolling. super serious.

ftfy

omfg that like us asking out random reddit girls then using that as the example for why we get rejected. we would get absolutely blasted for that if we did that and tried to use it as an excuse as to why we don't get girls. that is so unbelievably pathetic.

fucking LOL. FUCK

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“woah there m8, this is why your a virgin! Maybe if you would just put out the tiny amount if effort to spend thousands of dollars on plastic surgery and lower your standards to only going for 600+ lb neckbeards, maybe you wouldn’t be a virgin.”

“yeah i know it wouldn’t fix any of the actual underlying social problems you have and would just let you shallowly be able to claim you’ve had sex once without actually changing anything about the situation your in, but im just here to make myself feel good about myself, not to actually help, cya losers-that-frighten-me-because-they-remind-me-too-much-of-me.”

Once every few years, only guys who are hot, and in roundabout ways. Poor you.

+1. they say one thing and do another

and then lie about not doing that very thing right here

I mean...you can't really argue with the first part. How are you expecting to meet a girl if you never talk to one?

that's assuming we've never talked to women or tried living... 4 months ago i was in your shoes telling the incels the exact same thing, but now i see the truth, lookism, blackpill, my life is over

Okay, yea, you can just give up on trying to find a girl. That's fair enough. But if you're not doing anything, nothing will happen is all I'm saying.

Some people find the lottery dumb. And they decide not to play, which is valid. But some people want to win, not matter how slim their chance. If someone expected to win the lottery without ever buying a ticket, everyone would agree that that was pretty crazy...

But if you're not doing anything, nothing will happen is all I'm saying.

nothing happened when we tried and we've given up, platitudes galore today damn

Yea, if you've given up, that's fair enough. I'm just saying that "you have to talk to women" isn't invalid advice in itself. It does not guarantee success but it's the only option that has the chance of success.

The issue that a lot of guys have with that advice isn’t that it’s factually incorrect, but rather that it’s so trivially obvious to the point of being a bit insulting to offer it, essentially implying that it never occurred to them in the first place.

Plenty of the guys here have made a genuine effort to employ all of the usual self improvement etc. advice that’s regularly offered here and found that it simply wasn’t enough.

Whether or not you choose to take them at their word with respect to their experiences is your prerogative, but if you accept that at least some of these guys have actually made an effort, getting into shape, talking to girls etc. etc. then you can probably see how to someone in that position, a person coming to them and saying “if you want girls you gotta go out and talk to them” will feel kinda shitty.

I can fully relate to this. I'm in almost the same situation and it bothers me to no end when people offer platitudes. Not only because I actually do work out, have hobbies, social contacts and so on but because the assumptions behind a lot of those pieces of advice is insulting. I know it's important to shower every day, thank you very much.

But at the same time, I understand that the number one reason for my lack of succes with women at the moment is that I never approach them. Ever. It's just very unlikely that a woman will make a move on me instead.

That’s actually a very good comparison. The odds of me getting a girlfriend are just as likely as winning the lottery. Sometimes an ugly guy gets a girlfriend just like sometimes someone wins the lottery.

You are depressed.

You life is over because a bunch of depressed and suicide people told you your life was over.

Do you really think that anyone in here wants anyone other person to actually get in a relationship?

Exactly. It's not that I don't like putting in the effort. I'd enjoy asking girls out if they didn't reject me at first sight. They can literally shatter your self esteem and confidence with a simple no.

They're not actually here to offer any real advice, just to hear themselves talk.

Have you actually ever tried? Have you really? 🙂

Okay, just checking.

Do you feel that you're entitled to their attention?

Why are you so obsessed with entitlement? Serious question.

Interesting that you dodged my very simple question.

You do feel entitled, don't you? The reason I ask is because of the overwhelming amount of shit I see on here of guys thinking they have some biological right to pussy and that women are evil scum for denying them.

I'm not sure if I feel entitled about anything never really thought about it. You ask a difficilt question, why is a certain human right a human right and something else not?

why is a certain human right a human right

Such as what?

Women typically go on social media and talk about how they just want to be left alone.

how do you know if you've never tried?

Normies typically have to do shit like talking to a woman over a course of time to build the woman's attraction to them, while chad and chadlite automatically gets the women to like them because of his looks

"Go out there and talk to women" does not mean "start hitting on complete strangers". It means learn to interact with other people, including women, on a real human level, first of all. Of course you're gonna get shot down if you just try to pick up random women.

And before you say "blah blah attractive guy not get rejected wah unfair women so shallow": if you believe conventionally attractive men can just waltz in and pick out any woman they want but you don't have that advantage, why would you try to do that instead of maximizing the address assets you do have—for example, at the very least, the ability to learn conversational skills and actively improve your personality? You are not doomed. You just find it easier to say you are, or to make the most half-assed of all efforts (hitting on some random stranger and then complaining on Reddit when it doesn't work out), than to take responsibility for what you CAN change.

What about starting a friendship first? If you're friends with someone then you know they already like you for who you are.

Okay, obviously you're just trolling.

How much of a fatty bum bum are you?

not that it matters because even fat women find bfs easily

Yeah I agree I've seen some real ugly fatties on dating sites that are really stuck up. Why not try pof or a real dating site.i assume on Reddit people don't take it serious because they are far .