There was an incel who just left today because he got a girlfriend

Probably a shitpost

I know there was an Asian dude who had sex, posted of it, and deleted his account

That skinny guy who posted on IT? That was a troll right? He posted on Asian ladyboners and he was a skinny ricecel I was expecting Chang or at least a manlet with a decent physique!

JFL if you arent running ricecel game in 2018

If this was true everyone would have roped and incels wouldn’t exist.

lol same shit with "bro sex isnt even a big deal, its actually not even that good" (says guy who has a girlfriend and fucks daily)

goes to ethiopia

"bro, food isn't even a big deal, it's not even that good"

Correct, there’s fuckloads of people in relationships who still hate themselves.

But I thought you can't get a relationship without huge amount of self-loving and self-improvement?

That's for people who are introverted and unsocialized

That would have killed themselves if they were alone.

I know a tall, attractive and jobless guy who has a rich, ugly and short gf, he has everything other boys in his age wish to have, his own car, expensive phones, expensive branded clothes, expensive wines, party, vacation, etc.

All the money comes from gf's dad, this dude is pretty happy.

Um bro no, a girlfriend doesn't always fix everything, you should try to be happy with yourself before you get in a relationship, because if that relationship doesn't work out, then the thing that was making you happy leaves, what then?mope around till you find another girl? Why would you want to make yourself miserable like that? Relationships shouldn't be everything in your life, and yes they bring happiness but likely not the type you're looking for

you should try to be happy with yourself before you get in a relationship

That is the biggest bullshit ever. I'm in a relationship now and without her I wouldn't have gotten any form of confidence or sense of worth. She made me exercise 3 times a week, made my grades go up 1.5 point and let me stop taking my SSRI without falling back into chronic depression.

Having friends, a supportive family and a significant other is critical to achieving happiness for most people. A lot of people fall into structural depression if one of those is missing.

and yes they bring happiness but likely not the type you're looking for

I think what you just briefly glossed over here is actually the very reason why finding a girlfriend would help. It's difficult to understand for outsiders what it feels like to be genuinely depressed. Contrary to popular belief, you don't feel sad. You usually just feel...nothing. Which is far, far worse. You can't even ask for help because your entire self-preservation instinct is gone. It's just nothingness. If something or someone brought you happiness, it wouldn't magically cure you. Obviously not. But it would be a tiny speck of light in the Nothingness. It gives you a bearing, like a beacon. You can finally reorient yourself. You suddenly have a reason to get help and work on yourself.

That also means that even if your relationship ends and the beacon disappears, you now have a course set to follow. Maybe you started therapy or picked up new healthy habits and those will keep going regardless of whether you're single or not.

Also, it would make it easier to silence intrusive thoughts. What am I supposed to answer when it tells me I'm unlovable, undesirable, repulsive, boring... Sure, I could "love myself" but then it's just my statement against it's. But if someone else loved me, they'd provide real, concrete examples to the contrary.

I do agree with you, I've been through serious depressive stages so trust me I understand how it feels to be empty and to feel like no one cares. I guess that's just a very brief discription of it, everyone experiences things differently but don't act like I could never understand, you made a very good point, but being dependant on someone for happiness can affect them mentally too. You do realize that when you depend on someone else to be your only hope or shining light in the darkness then I mean it can become upsetting for the girl, because then she starts to feel like she doesn't have a choice, because unless she's a jerk, she will want to make you happy, but then she might start feeling like the only reason you like her is for your own happiness, or like she can't leave you because she doesn't want you to be sad but the relationship isn't working out so she feels cornered, ya know what I'm trying to say? I know I'm bad at explaining things lol, sorry, I stand by my previous comment, they can bring happiness but I think that you should try to find the strength to better yourself first

You do realize that when you depend on someone else to be your only hope or shining light in the darkness then I mean it can become upsetting for the girl, because then she starts to feel like she doesn't have a choice, because unless she's a jerk

I mean, yea, but the point is not to let her know that?

It's pretty important to acknowledge that feeling desired and accepted helps A LOT, especially if that's the specific thing you'v been missing. But there are a bunch of flip sides. Most innocently- sometimes you can lean on that feeling of "here is someone who will hug me and tell me it's all right" instead of going and fixing your problems. Much much more dangerous is the significant other who makes your problems worse- the person who is abusive or just a taker. And I think sometimes people are trying to tell you that if you think of a relationship as the be-all end-all of your happiness, you open yourself up to abuse.

But you're right. It's a completely understandable to want a girlfriend very badly. There are a lot of things I want very badly that are at least ninety percent outside of my control, and it's a huge struggle to balance my work on the ten percent with the emotional self-management of the rest. It just sucks, and it is easy to backslide into unproductive hate spirals.

I guess it makes sense but like so much other general advice, it can be what some people need but it can also do a lot of damage to other people, which is why I'm generally not a fan of such broad "wisdoms".

That's very true. Almost everybody wants to help- I always want to swoop in and be the hero- but it's hard to sit back and listen to other people's experiences.

And thank you for the gold! That's really sweet- I never got gold before and it totally made me smile.

I never got gold before and it totally made me smile.

That makes me happy to hear~

you should try to be happy with yourself before you get in a relationship

That's not what my therapist said. Especially if part of why you aren't or never will be happy with yourself is that you've never had a relationship.

I used to be an incel. Getting a girlfriend made me less unhappy. I don't feel unlovable and disgusting anymore. But the emptiness and nihilism is still there.

This doesn't surprise me. Getting a girlfriend won't undo all the damage that's already been done. But it'll undo some of it and reduce future damage.

Have a gf and fuck daily. It does improve life and is a great thing to have.

It is only one aspect of life that must be maximized to bring happiness. For example, I would suspect there are very few NEETs in the world that have any long-term level of happiness. Same thing with people in jobs they despise or for people that have no friends.

The problem with this is that some men (and women) who never take the time to learn themselves go for that initial high in New relationships all the time. It works until it doesn't..until they hop onto a new host to suck dry. Then why wonder why they are never happy.

Being in love while self actualized is a whole different thing than thinking someone is saving you with their love.

Because people are fallible. Sooner or later they will let you down and thay is the difference between a rough patch and your world ending.

I have never heard anyone say this irl. If anything, people have told me that I need to get a gf.

First you need to become chad to get bf (bitchfriend) and her so called "love" (until better chad appears) so NO SHE WON'T

Let's not fool ourselves. How could a an allegedly "unintelligent, subhuman whore" (also known as a woman) make any of you happy?

I think the incel community should take the step beyond MGTOW, and start fucking each other. Just think about it, it would solve almost all of your problems!

That's why you always see people telling unhappy people that they need to get laid or get a girlfriend. They know it's a lie.

Its like the people who say money can't buy happiness. Like yeah you're right but it sure helps

My brother is 2000% happier when with his GF. Makes me think.

When you're lost in the woods, a Swiss Army Knife won't magically solve all your problems but it will make it a hell of a lot easier to deal with the other problems you have. Same idea with romance. I know from experience that simple physical contact with another human being or just being in the same room and spending time with someone you love makes it a million times easier to mentally battle your inner daemons.

It's just so...frustrating. I could go up to a homeless guy and tell him that money won't solve all his problems. And that's entirely correct. But it would solve a lot of his problems. And what's more, since I'm pretty much in the opposite of his situation, I'd be really condescending and lacking any self-awareness.

Get some therapy

Honestly, ofc a gf would make u happier. What we are saying is that you guys (most of u, not all) have a shitton of other issues as well, and if u dont fix that sexism mindset & get rid of that victim complex, youre still not gonna be happy cause trust issues ruin relationships.

Throughout history there's been people like incels of all kinds. Being a "foreveralone" isn't some new trend that's hit the market. The only marked difference is incels of the past went out and did something with their lives instead of hiding from the world blaming everyone else for what they hate the most about themselves.

Love IS happiness.

Why would any incel want a GF? If you believe the women are incapable of loving you because your physical charscteristics, how could you ever trust a woman to ever truly love you. It must be incredibly stressful to be in a relationship with someone who's actions (i.e. being in a relationship with you, who find yourself disgusting and unloveable) conflict with the absolutist world view presented on this sub.

I can only imagine a person who hold's this belief would be a nightmare as a boyfriend or a girlfriend for that matter. The level of control they'd have to exercise over their SO to feel secure "knowing" what they "know" about "the blackpill" would be disastorous, even close to a level of abuse. And I refuse to believe the incels themselces would br happy, always waiting for the day they'd get "cucked" by "Chad or Tyrone".

No, man. If you base your happiness on your relationship, your relationship and your life will suck endlessly - much more so than inceldom, no matter how wet your dick gets. Fix your goddamn self first.