By the way, if you remove my fakeup digitally, it's creepy, and it's worse than sexual assault or literal rape. So don't do it.

But I only put fakeup on to feel pretty :)

and it's worse than sexual assault or literal rape. So don't do it.

Yesterday in the AP there was a story where a woman was quoted as saying "A man said 'rape' loudly. He didn't touch me or threaten me but he certainly was guilty of verbal sexual assault."

That was a literal quote that has since been edited...

there is a leftist bias in the media, and there is a heavy, near genocidal bias against male sexuality outside of chad in society.

"fake-up is evil and should be banned"

I don't wear makeup and get told that in order to get dates I should wear makeup.

So which is it? 🤔

You don't need makeup. You can be beautiful even without it.

Aww thanks. 😀

(Although you've never even seen my face.)

I bet you're cute.

Holy fuck dude. cmon now, have some self respect.

Wait a second, i just realised where i am...

She's my friend chill.

Cuckfestus at it again.

You mean dates with chad?

Dates with any guy.

I prefer plain Janes. Honestly prefer natural looks to makeup

Juggernaut law tho

Yeah. Even average or ugly girls can get a bf cos it triggers their savior’s complex.

if you want Chad you have to looksmax.

I like chicks with little to no make-up.

You're fat. You need every advantage you can get.

You don't know how much I weigh.

I can smell your fat across cyberspace

is braincels actually just a giant disguised beta-orbit

Maybe.....Lose weigth?

women are the dumbest creatures in the universe

How many women do you know in real life? Like, as friends?

What's your point, that women don't wear makeup?

Several of my female friends don't. And of the ones who do, they don't wear it a hundred percent of the time and don't look super different when they're wearing it.

They only say so because it works for them. Femoids can be themselves and they will find someone, because it's okay for a femoid to be insert some negative traits which would make a man a no-go (unless he's Chad).

Meanwhile we have to work on our personalities.

lol not true. i couldn’t even manage to have a guy admit i was cute or to get a boyfriend, make out, finger banged or even god damn taken advantage of by a guy up til i was 17.

up til i was 17

Guys here don't get any of that for their entire lifes, you dumb roastie.

what’s sad is reality. i HAD to change how i looked to even get guys who were ‘bottom of the barrel’ to even mention finding me attractive. theres shitty men and shitty women.

i’m assuming though then, this means you have 0 standards or expectations for a woman’s level of appearance then right?

its worth mentioning that while im far from a feminist or even easily offended or get butthurt by a sadboy redditor, i do understand that you guys love throwin insults about ‘roast beef vag’ or misinformed idea of how you believe they “got that way”, what women look like physically in real life and not the internet and your belief that there’s only 2 different variations of how pussy looks.

the guys all the girls that you claim go for, that you envy and resent... actually don’t sit around and criticize their body or appearance down to the tiny details. for as hopeless and victimized that you choose to portray yourselves, you’re awfully critical and demeaning. often times the flaws you’re constantly picking out in other people are qualities you actually hate about yourself.

I wonder what your exemplary 'bottom of the barrel' guy looks like. A Chadlite? Anyway if any of that is actually true, because I doubt you would have ANY problems on datingapps, then you felt what every man who didn't get the Chad genes feels every day.

My only standard for a woman is to not be fat, because I am not.

How hard is it to understand that 'fate doing its work' only works for women? If a man of average appearance decided do wait for a woman to approach him, he would have to outlive the universe and even then it wouldn't happen.

I swear the 'roastie beef' does hit femoids's nerve. It's a joke, a tongue-in-cheek meme.

Why would they criticise their bodies if they are told they are beautiful (even when they objectively aren't) and receive tons of validation every day? The vast majority of men don't have this luxury.

I just want to add that incels aren't born, but made. By women. By you.

I honestly had a hard time understating what your points are. I guess the reason behind that might be that I am not a native speaker or maybe that you simply spat out what your emotions told you to, making it one big mess.

Bottom of the barrel guy meaning the kids in school who smoked cigarettes outside, were about to drop out as soon as they turned 16, were bad in school... The dirty kids. Not the average guy that’s awkward around girls. I couldn’t even get that kid to wanna be partners in class or picked for a team in gym unless everyone else was picked.

I couldn’t even gain approval, attention, friendship, hell even a fucking seat at the same table at lunch from guys OR girls. once i got to HS, i didn’t even GO to lunch bc sitting alone at a table one time was enough. I wasn’t “ugly”. I wasn’t “fat”. I wasn’t “dumb”. I wasnt mean or weird or dirty. I wasn’t anything but nice to people even when i was constantly teased or treated like shit lol. i was always treated different or singled out by girls and guys. Even guys like you. I resented pretty girls for YEARS. I was not only resentful of being hurt but it made me even more hateful of them because they were so clueless about the lives they all took for granted. I Relished in doing the same thing you guys are doing here behind the backs of everyone everywhere. But i realized the grass wasn’t any different on the other side as soon as my appearance ‘improved’, nothing changed about how i felt inside. about myself or everything else. i still felt insecure about the same exact things about myself. nothing changed about my social interactions. all that happened was more let downs, pain and life lessons. But now you learn how much more difficult and damaging it is being hurt so badly by people you thought you trusted or loved or were your friends. all the shitty people i used to think i wanted a chance with at dating or friendship, i quickly realized that they were all just self serving vapid shells.

Tearing everyone else apart in any capacity tears your spirit and self esteem down even harder. Negativity comes back ten fold. what your mind projects is what you’re going to receive. try to practice a habit of everytime you’re about to think/type/say something negative about someone/something/anything.... you have to instead say to yourself a good quality about them and also about yourself. I mean, You aren’t saying any of this in real life to women. If a woman approached you or you guys had been talking and if she was genuinely interested and said something you didn’t agree with, would you call her a roastie? If you were about to have sex with a girl, whether a casual encounter or first time with a girlfriend and she had a “roast beef pussy” ... would you shame her and walk away in disgust? That’s not reality.

You guys get shit backwards. You beat yourselves up because the girls you go for decide to go after some douche bag or just someone else. First off, EVERYONE gets rejected... whether they get ghosted, lead on, turned down, ignored, lied to, etc.... It happens to everyone. Second, yes women have to put forth a ton of effort in dating. We have to deal with men constantly trying to manipulate us into being in love with them and their control and expected to fit an impossible mental, emotional and physical mold that doesn’t exist. due to that, women are treated as disposable often times once we reveal any kind of genuine quality or imperfection that even so much as slightly irritates a guy. Literally 98% of guys that are filling up women’s dating app/social media inboxes are either perverts, dudes looking for ass, weirdos, creepers, douche bags, or someone they have no idea who it is and aren’t interested in a stranger online.

I realized how you truly do accept the love you think you deserve. i had an 8 year relationship of being completely ripped apart, manipulated, and played a fool for years by an undeserving guy I was engaged to. i felt MORE alone with someone than i did getting over that these last 8 months.

You brush off something not workin out. Just because you get to know someone, don’t get an emotional attachment and angry when things taper off. Often times when you’re too invested/lovey/obsessive too quick, it’s scary to anyone. Instead of having the mindset that you’re trying to talk to a girl and get her to fall for you, go into it as though shes a long time friend of yours. You’ll be able to be yourself and a natural connection can happen. Ya don’t want to force puzzle pieces that don’t fit. How awkward would it be to land some girl of your dreams that in another life turned you down and then quickly come to realize after the new-ness wears off that you have nothing in common and can’t stand her overall attitude?

Being a lone wolf is lonely and sad until you realize that it makes you unique, strong, and independent. And though the number of people in your circle is few, life is so much less stressful and less painful. The same people that ‘made you the way you are’, treat everyone else the same way. the sad truth is hard to swallow. but i hope you take this to heart and really think about it. the first thing you guys need to realize is that the people who have hurt you, especially for superficial reasons, are SHITTY ASS PEOPLE AND WILL HURT COUNTLESS PEOPLE THE SAME WAY THEY TREATED YOU! men or women! Nice guys are preyed upon by gold diggers and users.

Pick yourself up. Build self worth and self esteem up. You all need to stop with the self pity, “woe is me”, blaming your entire world view and all of your circumstances on someone else and take control. would you be attracted to a girl who blamed everything negative about herself and her life on men? Do the crazy feminists drive you crazy when you hear em blaming men for everything? Vibes are real man. for example, Walking into a party whether you know every single person or no one at all, people instantly feel a thick energy of your own headspace and attitude. Always be your true self, upkeep your physical appearance and hygiene, spend less time on the internet/social media, dedicate more of your time around real life people, read more books that talk about self love/awareness and maybe about some stoicism (teaches you how to stop feeling out of control due to external/out of your control situations)

That's a giant wall of text. Can't say that I don't appreciate the effot you've put into writing it, though. So in regard to the first thing, what I had on mind was their physical attractiveness, not behaviour. And being a bad boy isn't something that puts women off. In fact it's the opposite, it attracts them (I have science papers proving this, so don't you deny!).

Even guys like you.

Funny, because I felt like I was reading about myself. What you said fits me so nicely, that it's quite spooky.

Alright, so you kind of were a female incel then? Kind of because not having any successes in dating world till 17 years old isn't that big of a problem, although it does seem like an anomaly in case of women. I have a hard time believing that nothing changed in your social life after your appearance had gotten better. It doesn't compute, unless you were rejecting all non-Chads.

Tearing everyone else apart in any capacity tears your spirit and self esteem down even harder. Negativity comes back ten fold. what your mind projects is what you’re going to receive.

Does it? Because I don't feel it. The negativity I put into my posts about femoids is validated my observations, various scientific articles and the experiences of others shared on the web. I don't just tell people on the internet that they are dumb for no reason. I do it because what they say it untrue or at least I think that it's untrue. And I am not interested in lying to myself just to feel better. The reality is what it is and doesn't look good for incels, that includes me, but I won't be trying hard to get into bluepill mindset and pretend that life is fair. I am so far gone that I couldn't even if I wanted to.

We have to deal with men constantly trying to manipulate us into being in love with them and their control and expected to fit an impossible mental, emotional and physical mold that doesn’t exist.

Replace "women" with "men" and it will be true. Right now it's not, unless by men you mean Chads, because only they can be picky and look for the perfect woman. Average men can't. They have to settle with what they get. When it comes to the "impossible mental, emotional and physical mold" women don't nearly have it as bad as men and if you don't see that then I will call you a dumb roastie again. Men are much more fair in rating women's physical attractiveness than women rating men's. Also women and disposable? These two words don't connect with each other, unless you live on some other planet, on which gender roles are reversed.

Literally 98% of guys that are filling up women’s dating app/social media inboxes are either perverts, dudes looking for ass, weirdos, creepers, douche bags, or someone they have no idea who it is and aren’t interested in a stranger online.

Why do I have a feeling that the 98% men you speak are guilty of just being ugly and nothing else?

Often times when you’re too invested/lovey/obsessive too quick, it’s scary to anyone.

Except when Chad does it. Be a friend? I think it's called an "orbiter", because if a woman is interested, she will show it and she won't need years of friendship to make her mind about it. Years which she can go around fucking Chads and crying on the shoulder of the guy she is friends with every time Chad says "no" to a real relationship with her. The natural connection you speak of is just the way women create their social circles to include males, who she finds worthy of being her provider. To put it simply, always have a backup man. I also have a feeling you are trying to push the "love" thing in there. The only problem is that it doesn't exist, has never existed in reality and is a product of artistic men with escapist tendencies. For women "love" is just another way of getting a male to stay with her, provide and if necessary sacrifice his life for her.

Being a lone wolf is lonely and sad until you realize that it makes you unique, strong, and independent.

It's also suicide inducing, because humans are social animals. Truly lonely people don't have anyone and it making you unique, strong, and independent is a giant COPE.

The same people that ‘made you the way you are’, treat everyone else the same way. the sad truth is hard to swallow.

No, women don't treat average males the same way they treat Chads nor will they hurt Chad. In fact they are quicker to har, the average male just to be with Chad. Chad is the ultimate proof of femoid's hypocrisy and their primal, vaginal instincts completely taking over, when they see one.

would you be attracted to a girl who blamed everything negative about herself and her life on men?

No, that's what is called a feminazi. But incels have proof. It's called blackpill: r/BlackPillScience

thick energy of your own headspace and attitude

Only when you are unattractive. Have a read: https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/6isl6x/what_is_socially_accepted_when_you_are_beautiful/?sort=top

Your advice is typical I guess it could work, sure, but only in becoming a provider for some woman in her 30s, who ran out of options. Would you want to be a provider? Only seen as a personal ATM? That's what unattractive men (and that's the majority, thanks to femoid's standards) have to put up with.

I've only worn make up a few times in my life. It's pretty horrible stuff, no way it's good for the skin or anything.

Female dating advice:

The world is the problem girl! Not you! You look good! Be proud of your curves and face!

Mens dating advice:

Man up. Work harder.

That’s just life advice. Men are never given sympathy or help, unless they are good looking enough to deserve it. Women are all treated like good looking men by default.

Just be yourself! And don't try so hard, love will find you when you least expect it :)

Yeah, maybe if you're a woman. Nothing will ever 'find you' as a male unless you go out and take it.

Incels: I would be the best boyfriend.

Also Incels: Women should be enslaved and locked in a basement with no rights and if they ever look at another man they've sullied themselves.

Tfw you have 0 arguments so you derail the conversation to paint yourself as a victim and incels as aggressors

Nice

Just quoting sentiments I've seen posted here repeatedly.

what about a guy that’s not super attractive decides to grow a beard or some style of distinctive facial hair? whether its a chin strap, goatee, mustache, or a short/long beard, but all done well and solid in density. a beard completely conceals half of a man’s face. unlike any amount of makeup, facial hair doesn’t wipe off and alters someone’s physical appearance 24/7 until they decide to shave it off. it’s a game changer of a person’s attraction to someone. there is no degree of “enhancing” whether a little bit or a ‘total mask’ like with makeup. theres been plenty of guys that i have either stopped finding attractive due to facial hair, only find attractive since they decided to grow facial hair, a changed amount (+/-) in how attracted i am to them depending on what kind of facial hair. and then the ones who decide to shave it off and i’m 100% not attracted AT ALL and completely not into to their ‘real’ appearance.

Wouldn’t THAT actually be the ultimate deceit?

when stuff like this is said jokingly or not on social media or in person, you actually do the opposite of stopping what you say is a problem and just exacerbate it. someone reading a post or meme about this becomes MORE insecure because it’s remarked how unattractive/disgusting a person looks WITHOUT their makeup on. besides, if you’re so high and mighty about how horrible and unnecessary you feel that level of makeup is, why are you encouraging it by insulting what someone looks like beforehand? Lol. There’s no way you or anyone else actually fuckin meets people in person and believe “oh yeah all that makeup and that eyeshadow, they’re totally natural”. Or that the women you idealize and fantasize about look the same without makeup in real life.

everyone has insecurities. everyone deals with it differently. women go overboard on makeup and obsessed with their appearance because of society, social media, peers and their life experiences. maybe it was a snarky joke a guy made? we all have had something happen to us that plants a seed in our brains that created an idea of how we think we are perceived by others and how we feel we must present ourselves.