is this accurate?

213  2018-05-04 by SpecialNewspaper

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Yes. People tell us we are ugly losers as if we don't already know that.

it's like calling a black person the N word, leftists cant see through their own hypocrisy

Do normies tell you that? I've only seen incels say that shit about themselves and each other.

It's almost entirely incel vs incel, with the exception of losers spending all their time on IT - but they're hardly representative, as a recent thread proved.

That was before we became trending on twitter and fucking bbc news reported on us

That tends to happen when somebody kills a bunch of people in the name of a given cause.

Well yeah no shit. That doesn't mean the ideology is harmful though. BLM got the same flak after the dallas shooting. Hell, so did catcher in the rye after John Lennon was killed

So then why are you in such a huff that the BBC reported on incels after that one ran a bunch of people down in Toronto?

Because we now suddenly have thousands of people who think we're a bunch of would-be mass murderers because they've never actually been on this sub

The problem is the organization. You egg each other on and make fucked up "jokes" and the one crazy dude In the group clings to it and takes out his anger on everyone else.

You egg each other on

Yeah, like this guy encouraging a fellow incel to livestream his own suicide.. Oh wait, that was one of you. That's another problem with mainstream media reporting on incels - they don't know who actually speaks for us.

This sub has moderators specifically looking for and removing anything that resembles a call to violence, because the last incel sub was banned for how frequent they were.

If you want to see what the incel community looks like when its not being babysat, then take a good look.

That's the point. We don't want those kinds of people on here, so we actively keep them out. Which means you don't get to judge us based on their actions.

If that's truely the case, why didn't the incel community choose to conduct itself in such a manner before being booted off of reddit for its failure to conduct itself in such a manner?

Hey, Murgie, just a quick heads-up:
truely is actually spelled truly. You can remember it by no e.
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Because violent content wasn't prohibited on reddit until about a month or so before /r/incels was banned. After that, the mods started enforcing it the same way /r/braincels does. However, by that point it was too late as /r/incels was already on reddit's hit list. The final straw was the legaladvice thread, which obviously took place on /r/legaladvice, where the mods couldn't do anything to stop it. Also just a reminder that "the incel community" doesn't "choose" anything as it is a group of individuals, not a single sentient being.

Also just a reminder that "the incel community" doesn't "choose" anything as it is a group of individuals, not a single sentient being.

My bad, I forgot that only Chads, normies, and women can do that.

That's an interesting way to spell "I've been backed into a corner so I'm going to move the goalposts"

Hell, I don't mind ceding the matter, so long as it requires to to acknowledge that collective guilt is a flawed concept. :)

Great, I'm on a list now.

WARNING - THAT IS A LINK TO INCELS.ME

Just a reminder that the "black lifes matter" movement is actively in large advocating for the killing of random cops and is seen by many as a terrorist orginisation, comparing yourself to them do you more harm then good.

Have you ever been in a relationship?

Yes?

I'm not going to get in an argument about BLM, but let's agree to disagree on that one.

simply pointing out that when tens of thousands of people go in a mob shouting about killing cops, it's not that odd that people give them flak when a sympathizer of the group go out and kill multiple cops...

Out of curiosity, does this event make you empathise with Muslims?

Not really. If I wanted to I could just quietly delete my account and pretend I had never heard of incels. Not the case with Muslims.

And for the record, I have never held any anti-Muslim sentiments. Just feel like clarifying since people tend to think this sub is alt-right

Just feel like clarifying since people tend to think this sub is alt-right

There is a lot of cross-over between AR and RP, less so this community, but there's definitely some crossover. But I agree, this sub definitely isn't AR.

Where do you think we learned it from?

Well that's fucked up. Sorry man.

Look at any IT post

What's an IT?

IT is a sub called r/inceltears, the opposite of here

Ooh. Ok thanks

Have been told that quite a few times by normies. Sure, the rate of that dropped down after high school, but still.

You're not just ugly losers. You're full of hatred too. That's why this definition "involuntary celibate" only describes half of it. Lots of people can't get laid, they're not all incels.

I don't hate anyone.

Maybe you don't, but brief browsing of this sub tells me a lot

OK, good for you.

You mean "I see what I want to see because I came to be outraged"?

Its right there in your side bar.. "many incels are hostile to normies; tread carefully"

There were long periods in my life where I couldn't get laid but I wasn't "hostile to normies".. Normies I guess being anyone who isn't an incel? (again, that's just in your sidebar) Whats up with you people?

What is a femoid? Just seems like some label that lets you trash on huge swathes of people. I hate high school bullies too but if you let if define you then that's on you.

Its right there in your side bar.. "many incels are hostile to normies; tread carefully"

Negative feedbacks loop is a bitch, yeah. It takes a toll on you.

There were long periods in my life where I couldn't get laid but I wasn't "hostile to normies"..

Well, for starters, many of never gotten laid. Ever. That's slightly different from a "dry spell". Why many of us are hostile to you? Because societal rejects historically wasn't exactly treated kindly, no matter the topic but we still wanted to belong. That's why imageboards appeared, for instance, we really wanted to belong. But then you, middle of the normal distribution and just ruin our shit, making us feel even more unwanted. You catch my drift there, buddy?

Normies I guess being anyone who isn't an incel? (again, that's just in your sidebar) Whats up with you people?

Don't. Don't even try to be sarcastic. You're muy shit at it.

What is a femoid? Just seems like some label that lets you trash on huge swathes of people. I hate high school bullies too but if you let if define you then that's on you.

Why do you care how this or that is named by some obscure group, I wonder?

What gives you the impression that I'm being sarcastic? I honestly want to know what's up with you people. I just think its interesting on a sociological level.

I see imageboards as the opposite of wanting to belong. Its a hole you can crawl in and parrot lame internet jargon back and forth to each other in a pathetic attempt to feel superior to the "normies" (as if normies is an actual thing)

You're bringing this pain on yourself in part. Its really sad, I'd feel bad for you if you weren't such an asshole. Go outside

“You’re an ugly loser” from a reddit troll, tweets, and articles online mean very little to me. They are only validating my struggle by saying that.

Me and my wifes boyfriend laugh at you guys

Stblackops color scheme

Yep this will get worse

So, according to you, incels are a threat? That seems like a call for violence to me. Is this something mods take care of on this sub?

get a fucking life you faggot

Well that isn't very nice. I'm being honest. You say people being mean is making you more of a threat. Are you a threat? Nearly all incels aren't but you made a meme directly saying you are. I feel that should be taken seriously.

Yes, making fun of people who are already ostracized is a threat. Also a dick move. Are you a dick?

I haven't made fun of anyone.

You’re clearly not here in good faith and are looking to antagonize. Two sides of the same shitty coin dipshit.

An observation that violent rhetoric is violent rhetoric not antagonizing. I've even tried to be clear as possible that this isn't incels as a group, just this poster, just this kind of rhetoric.

It seems to me that OP is pointing out the hypocrisy of people calling Incels a threat yet degrading them further at the same time, not making a call to violence itself.

That only works if the title is something other than asking about the accuracy of the statement they are making. They are asking for confirmation that incels are threats. Could easily be a troll, now that I think of it.

u are beyond low IQ

How am I beyond low IQ? Their history directly confirms my observation. Troll or dangerous. There are no in betweens when you make statements like that.

kys.

It seems to me that OP is pointing out the hypocrisy of people calling Incels a threat yet degrading them further simultaneously, not making a call to violence itself.

This is all that needs to be said.

What you should be saying is "oh, okay, that makes sense now. Thanks for explaining it to me"

hopefully more follow, incels should form an alliance with jihadcels, we both basically want the same thing

Did you miss this part?

How do you know it wasn't said in jest? Jeez, even sarcastic quips are not taken seriously, who's the autist here, huh?

How do you know it was? Right now we're in a world in which incels have been designated a hate group by the foremost authority on hate groups. Threats of violence coming from hate group should be taken seriously. Why would you think they shouldn't be taken seriously?

foremost authority on hate groups

What authority is that?

SPLC.

In October 2016, the SPLC published a list of "anti-Muslim extremists", including British activist Maajid Nawaz and ex-Muslim activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali. The SPLC said that Nawaz appeared to be "more interested in self-promotion and money than in any particular ideological dispute", identified what it said were gaps and inconsistencies in his backstory, rebuking his assertion that British universities had been infiltrated by radical Islamists Nawaz, who identifies as a "liberal, reform Muslim", denounced the listing as a "smear", saying that the SPLC listing had made him a target of jihadists. Mark Potok of the SPLC responded, "Our point is not to make these people targets for violence... The point is to tamp down the really baseless targeting." The Lantos Foundation for Human Rights & Justice subsequently addressed a public letter to the SPLC (November 8, 2016) requesting a retraction of the listings. After Nawaaz threatened to sue, the SPLC removed the page from its website.

Such an authority.

Not sure what this is supposed to prove. Did you google SPLC controversy or something to dig up whatever you could? And this was the best you could find? This is barely a controversy and was resolved shortly after.

lol he achieved negative iq

Still higher than your self-esteem.

i would hope so

I wonder if anything with a lower IQ than an incel's self-esteem could even be considered a living organism. Any insult that a random normie could think of, we have heard many times much worse from other normies when going to school or from our relatives.

They're not really trying hard to show me that they got to where they are in life, not because of wit or personality, but because of their non subhuman looks

stfu u paki cunt. ethnicel/currycel in denial.

When you persistently humiliate, degrade and attack people their whole lives and then your surprised that some of them snap? Add in a little mental illness or a spectrum disorder and completely disconnect them from society and you dare to label some dumb meme on an obscure subreddit a call to fucking violence? What the FUCK are you smoking?

I have done nothing of the sort and right now you're saying that it's inevitable that some incels snap. That is not a good defense for the incel community. Nor is it a good defense for someone who says that incels should be more violent.

What am I smoking? Objective reality. Try some. Because right now this person is acting like a threat. Not incels in general, not the incel community, they are acting like a threat. And you're joining them voluntarily and defending their violent rhetoric. That makes me worry that you are a threat too.

Its not even specific to the incel community. Marginalised and socially excluded young men in general. You normies take great pleasure in shitting on us every day. You take great pleasure in humiliating and attacking us. Then you all cry and demand gun control or van control or knife control on CNN when one of them snaps and does something. It is not a fucking defense you halfwit. Its merely an explanation. I never said incels should be violent. I advocate for the black pill, by being violent you only give normies what you want.

Posting a meme on reddit = a threat. Me calling out normies for making such a dumb equivalence = a threat?

Sense. Try getting some cup cake. You won't find it on the same shelf as the false moral outrage or the virtue signalling.

You are generalizing me as someone I am not. You are lumping me in together with normies just as you don't want normies to do to you. I try very hard to treat each of you as an individual and judge you on your own words and opinions. Why the hypocrisy?

Beyond that, moral outrage and virtue signalling? No. Why wouldn't I come here to defend myself from the attacks? What makes many incels think they can attack a group of people publicly for something they have no control over and not have them fight back? You're fooling yourself if you expect people to just shut up and not defend their humanity.

Every person is a threat if you harass them hard enough.

Yeah no kidding. Wonder how long it will take before women have had enough and violence ensues.

/s Don't be hypocritical when you know many women have been harassed by many incels.

If you are a threat get help

So being bullied justifies violence? Fucking losers. Get your shit together and stop wallowing in self pity.

You just cured incels bro. Stop wallowing in self pity y'all!

It actually is. Stop with your blackpill bullshit and absolutist thinking. I know it's hard because you're all probably autistic, but jesus fucking christ, y'all are retarded

Also, stop watching porn. It's bad relationship advice.

If we all are probably autistic then we need state-mandated subsidies for mental care, not your tough love bullshit.

In fact, mental care world over needs more money, so that people can actually be cured or their conditions alleviated.

You kick a dog enough times its going to bite, its not a comment on if the dog is good or bad, its just an observation. Stop with the false moral outrage when you get bit!

Oh and before you try your disgusting moral rectitude on me you should know i condemn violence and i advocate for the black pill and keeping an extremely firm lid on ones emotions.

You know what happens to dogs that bite?

They get put down.

Well, don't forget to take your rabies shot then.

So being bullied justifies violence?

Why do the people who bully us get to decide what is and isn't justifiable in response to that bullying?

Because as a functioning society we have rules that try to keep everyone safe from physical harm done by others. It's a quite common thing in functioning societies. Would you like if it was legal for all the "chads" that so clearly "hate you" to just beat on you as they please? why do you think the bullied should be able to select the punishment for the bully?

Does this mean movements for racial equality should be disbanded? What about the Zionistic movements? What about militant feminists?

Does this mean movements for racial equality should be disbanded?

If the movement advocates to harm or kill innocent people then it should be rediculed and scolded by the public, I don't think you can force people to disband an ideology?

Would you like if it was legal for all the "chads" that so clearly "hate you" to just beat on you as they please?

That already was happening throughout school. Nothing happened to Chads, except if I fought back, I was punished.

And the big difference is children's brains aren't fully developed yet and therefor dosn't receive the same punishment as adults, also why we don't send children to prison, because children aren't held to the same social standard as adults. Now, would you like to live in a society where if "Chad" didn't like you it was in his right to beat you up or harm you without the fear of legal retaliation?

Hey, Black__philip, just a quick heads-up:
therefor is actually spelled therefore. You can remember it by ends with -fore.
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Retard. I wasn't talking about sending them to prison, but nothing happened to them. But I was punished for fighting back.

And what's up with that rhetorical question? Of course if a Chad does not like me, he can beat me up and get his friends to testify that he started the fight. This is the way the world already works, you retard.

Retard.

And this is why you get mocked, every time people try to have an honest conversation with you guys it always turn sour.

I wasn't talking about sending them to prison, but nothing happened to them. But I was punished for fighting back.

Then maybe that's a fault in your schools system and not society?

Of course if a Chad does not like me, he can beat me up and get his friends to testify that he started the fight.

And what about witnesses? What about signs of injury? Are you really saying that Chad can just do what he wants without the law intervening? Because then your worldview is truly twisted from reality.

This is the way the world already works, you retard.

No it isn't, and you know it, but again with the aggression "why won't people treat us as equals?!?" Maybe because every time we try shit like this is bound to fly out of your mouths at some point, it's almost fucking gospel by now.

every time people try to have an honest conversation with you guys it always turn sour.

In your case it might be because you act like an absolute twat all over the sub.

And when I don't I get the exact same treatment, that's why I just began to mock you guys, because there just is no winning with you, but once in a while I take the temperature of the sub and try to have an honest conversation, and you just proved once again that simply isn't possible, so just remember this the next time I mock you guys, it's quite literally and sadly all you are good for...

And when I don't

The fact that you're not doing it now is irrelevant. You have been acting like an utter cunt to everyone on this sub for a good while, you don't get to try to have an honest conversation after you're done shitting on people.

So the way people react to you being a cunt justify you acting in that way. Fuck logic.

The fact that you're not doing it now is irrelevant.

really? so one troll comment and you can never have an honest conversation ever again?

You have been acting like an utter cunt to everyone on this sub for a good while

and before that i was civil as fuck, yet got the exact same results as when i troll you guys, so yea fuck logic i guess, and somehow the bile always comes out when you refuse to answer a question because if you answer it honestly it contradicts everything you have indoctrinated each other to believe. But i get it, you can't have an honest conversation, sad for you buddy boy...

so ~~ one troll comment~~-an entire history of nothing but flinging shit in bad faith and you can never have an honest conversation with the people I shat on ever again?

Fixef that for you. You come here acting in bad faith, tough tits.

i was civil as fuck

Suuure, let's call it that. I remember you being you being a condescending fuckwit so people responded as they always do. And to add to that you've shat on people unprovoked multiple times.

But i get it, you can't have an honest conversation, sad for you buddy boy...

Sure can, just not with a condesending twat of your caliber.

Fixef that for you. You come here acting in bad faith over and over, hence people fling more shit your way.

the funny thing is i came in good faith in the beginning and quickly learnt how vile you guys are even if you are civil AND THEREFORE began to troll you because if there is no reasoning let's mock, so yea, i shit on you because you seriously can't come in good faith here without being called a cuck, femoid, retard, chad, normie and so on, so yea there is that little problem of yours.

Suuure, let's call it that. I remember you being you being a condescending fuckwit

go back through my comment history and you will see i didn't troll you to begin with, but whatever, i know you are delusional...

Sure can, just not with a condesending twat of your caliber.

then why even join the conversation to begin with you absolute illogical mong? ffs, it's shit like this that gets you mocked idiot XD anyway i'm done with you, your way of thinking spreads aids buddy boy, i guess it's the only way you get to spread anything though XD have fun being a miserable little teen and go join the victim-olympics the only thing you have a chance of getting first place in XD

let's mock, so yea, i shit on you because you seriously can't come in good faith here without being called a cuck, femoid, retard, chad, normie and so on, so yea there is that little problem of yours.

Except I never did any of that and you shat on me as well, but apparently you're still justified. Funny how that works.

go back through my comment history and you will see i didn't troll you to begin with, but whatever, i know you are delusional...

Went back as far as I could. Shitflinging and more shitflinging, month upon month.

then why even join the conversation to begin with you absolute illogical mong? ffs, it's shit like this that gets you mocked idiot XD

Pointing out that you're full of shit =/= honest conversation.

Keep up with generalizing the sub btw. Strike one.

Strike one.

What a badass! XD

Because if bullying leads to more bullying no one will ever be happy. You habe to be the change you want to see in the world.

Obviously bullying doesn't justify violence. That doesn't change the fact that if somebody is unstable and on the verge of cracking anyway being bullied can very easily be the straw that broke the camel's back. If you can walk somebody back from that edge but being a decent person why would you choose not to?

Then why are decent persons in this sub downvoted and insulted? Why do this sub assumes no one could ever understand them?

Because thats the nature of the sub. It's farce. Satire. Memes. Inside jokes. You can't take any of it at face value, because that's just how it is. If you want real conversations and you want to understand, talk to individuals, not to the whole sub at once.

It's very easy to be a decent person and still come across as a condescending know it all if you don't take the time to familiarize yourself with whats going on.

It doesn't help that since that fucker in Canada killed all those people this sub is besieged by rubberneckers. Incel defensive walls are even thicker than usual.

It's very easy to be a decent person and still come across as a condescending know it all if you don't take the time to familiarize yourself with whats going on.

I try to do my best, but it's really difficult to not come across as condescending if the people in this sub won't believe other people could understand what they are going through.

I actually thought a private message would have been worse, for some reason. Maybe I see it as a bigger invasion of privacy... and a public message could also help someone who is lurking but is too shy or insecure to come out and speak.

I'll try to keep your comment in mind when replying in this sub.

It doesn't justify it, but mocking those who are already down is most definitely encouraging people to hit their breaking point.

But it's not like incels are undeserving of it. They're misogynistic, hateful, and spiteful.

“Oh no! Incels express hate and bitterness towards people who, with the exception of the retards who go out of their way to scour incel spaces for outrage porn, experience no tangible reduction in their quality of life as a result of these virgins venting on the internet! Wait, I know! The most reasonable and balanced response to this is to participate in and encourage the further social ostracism of these individuals, several of whom are likely dealing with genuine mental health disorders on top of the ordinary emotional response to complete social rejection. This will surely produce the best possible outcomes for everyone involved!”

Fucking retards.

Right, because your hatred of women, cognitive inflexibility, and spitefulness towards people whose sole "crime" is being well-groomed and possibly female completely justifies your initial hatred.

No, you're angry because you can't get sex. Don't even try to justify anything else.

Don't even try to justify anything else.

How about you go fuck yourself? I am my own master and within the reasonable constraints I get to decide what is justifiable and what isn't.

yes it is. they have no idea.

The avalanche has begun, it is too late for the snowflakes to vote.

You're right, normies should embrace your seething hatred for roasties as a cry for help and shower you with sympathy, understanding, and pussy.

They don't even call us ugly.

They tell us we have bad "personalities."

That’s because you aren’t ugly. The majority of you are very attractive. What you lack is respect, social tact and the general ability to not be a cunt.

The majority of you are very attractive.

How the hell would you know? I look like Madeline Albright and Barney Rubble had a butt baby, then Carrottop peed on it.

Because you post pictures of yourselves everywhere asking to be rated.

Maybe SOME do, the masochists..but I seriously doubt MOST do.

Hit the fucking gym.

Kidding..I'm a contractor that basically gets paid to lift heavy stuff and climb ladders all day.

Women fuck Chads who don't respect them and have rude personalities, solely because they're attractive.

Those who do post their pictures left and right are pretty aware that they're attractive, they just want a quick validation boost. Much like females do all the time.

Honestly, this is what pisses me off the most. Why the hell do they lie to us?

Why the hell do they lie to us?

The thing is... They don't.

Just a reminder that the "black lifes matter" movement is actively in large advocating for the killing of random cops and is seen by many as a terrorist orginisation, comparing yourself to them do you more harm then good.

You're a racist, you know that, right?

And How exactly is that?

... oh no, you all seem just charming with all the suicide jokes and that rostie thing.

oh so self-aware, yet not at all...

No, nothing on this sub is accurate.

Seems accurate to me. I don't know much, but I know not to poke a Hornet's Nest with a stick.

im a such a fag

The Fire Rises

I'm not a troll and I wouldn't do that.... Who is the voice?

I find here the bigger insult is to tell you guys to do better and point out how.

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Swap fire for an ocean and gasoline with water

I would actually be happy for once to have a normie confess that ugliness is why I am a loser.

What actually fuels the fire (I'd never do anything just saying) is when they gaslight me with fucking bullshit.

incel makes an attack from being so socially rejected and bullied even during his sleep from /r/IncelTears comments

IT: "THESE BOARDS are LITERALLY MYSOGINY AND INSPIRE YOUNG WHITE MEN TO COMMIT ATTACKS"

The part on the gas can is

It's almost entirely incel vs incel, with the exception of losers spending all their time on IT - but they're hardly representative, as a recent thread proved.

Where do you think we learned it from?

You know what happens to dogs that bite?

They get put down.

Look at any IT post

Have been told that quite a few times by normies. Sure, the rate of that dropped down after high school, but still.

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