Nah, those 3 things are perfectly well defined. People tend to add a lot of their own baggage and scope of things but definitions remain loud and clear.
It's very simple. Volcel means voluntary celibate. If you can change it but don't, you're voluntarily choosing not to do anything about your situation.
I'd bet my life savings that 95% of dudes here are volcels that are being self pitying little bitches.
Do you think, maybe, that's why you're all so isolated, atomized, inward-looking and frustrated? Maybe if you started engaging in social structures and community, it might make you less bitter, lonely, and angry?
On many incel boards I've seen people calling for revolution and white sharia and shit. Even if it's said in jest it looks super bad when lumped in with all the Elliot Rodgers memes.
This place is sunshine and puppies compared to some incel boards/sites.
If it weren't for the fact that so many incels seem to identify with, or at least feel enamored with the imagery of Elliot Roger, maybe the killing women thing wouldn't be so prominent. And if incels didn't explicitly talk about sex as a right, as well as how people should only always hook up with their looksmatch, then they might not get the idea that incels want people to be assigned relationships.
First of all, I'm very skeptical of the whole van guy being an incel issue. That Facebook post is too ridiculous. It reads like a very, very weak troll. Even if the post is real it doesn't mean he is an incel or that he ever visited an incel forum.
Second, are you saying jokes shouldn't be allowed now because of this incident? Are you saying that joking about something illegal or dangerous to others should have consequences? No, of course you're not. That would be ridiculous.
What do you think the comic in OP is trying to say? And Ellen Pao's recent tweet calling for CEOs of tech companies to "deal with" ""incels""?
Nevermind the fact they would never treat Islam in such a way, or far left extremist terrorists. Both of which are far more common than some mentally ill guys that are obsessed with their virginity.
Society is one final Elliot Rodger moment away from labeling you domestic terrorists.
At that point I'd make a stand and have it tested in court. Incels being labeled terrorists would bar me from working in my profession (teacher) not for anything hateful I've said or done but for the fact that I refuse to yield my preferred self-designation to misogynist assholes and IncelTears posters who can't handle nuance.
I have read those exact fucking words right over on r/maleforeveralone not four months ago, and worse. One of these days I’m going to waste half an hour, get an imgur account, and screenshot this shit so that you can’t dodge it. Take some responsibility—if you’re going to label yourselves, own the dark shit that goes with that labelinstead of this transparent whining.
First off you linked a subreddit thats not this one so that first point is moot. The second one was just asinine. So we need to take responsibility for our worst members? So muslims need to be responsible for terrorists, christians need to be responsible for the westboro baptist church and gay conversion camps, and americans need to be responsible for gun toting mass murderers. Essentially what you are saying is that it is okay to generalize an entire group as the worst of its kind.
YES. You are your brother’s keeper. Everyone else is expected to self-regulate. Everyone else is expected to shout down extremists. Everyone else is expected to condemn bad behavior. You are too.
Which I did by saying I do not want to kill or enslave and I just want to find a partner. Again your logic is warpped whennyou see a muslim do you condemn them to since others of their religion are evil? Why are we the only group that is acceptable to generalize
as the worst? If it makes you feel better to hear it then here it goes: elliot rodger and the van guy whatever his name is are massmurdering assholes who deserve whatever punishment befalls them. I condemn their actions as evil. Anyone who hurts/kills others doesn't deserve respect or attention.
I know you are in righteous indignation mode, but the sub did condemn the bad behavior of the Toronto van attacker. Other people's thoughts are not our problem. This is like saying every feminist has to answer for radical feminism. Nice try but doesn't work.
Muslims do an absolutely shitty job at this, "not a true muslim" bullshit even though their holy book was written by an actually pedophile blood-thirsty warlord that explicitly calls for physical action. The incel community has morons , edge-lords, but most of us don't say ironically there is call for action to do something, nor do we have a book/ideology to lay on as an ultimate call-of-action, we are barely even a coherent community. I will say incel's haven't done the best job at rooting out the crazies, but definitely nothing to label everyone here as a terrorist.
call-to-action would mean we have a scripture that our whole 'ideology' (which we don't even really coherently have) was based on that called for actions to fulfill a requirement for that ideology. Most of the time people read our forums from outside is when someone makes a sperg post or some dumb roastie post that still somehow trolls people and it gets shared around.
Most people who read your forums (and more and more ordinary people do) see you advocating rape ore enslavement of women—which you really do do—and draw the conclusions ordinary people would: you’re demonstrably dangerous, misogynistic malcontents.
Most of us don't advocate for rape and enslavement of women. The roastie joke (obviously labia don't grow from intercourse) is funny because you can say something absurd like vaginas have penis recognition abilities and have people argue with you as if you genuinely believe that, even though I don't personally partake in it. The main thing I agree with you on is that incel community does a really piss-poor job at getting rid of the crazies or they continue being edge-lords/trolling past without drawing any lines, which is why I identify more as an associate rather than a member here. 2 of us have killed people, incels are mostly suicidal as a whole. Also incels.me is a lot worse
You don't see this coming from anyone but so called "Far right" types when a terror attack of a certain kind happens. I don't see hardly anyone on the "left" trying to drive out the extremist elements of their ideologies. In fact, its embraced. Until a terror attack or attempted assassination happens. Then its "oh how could this have happened, we had nothing to do with him, if we had to take responsibility for everyone else's actions we would be having a very difficult life", etc.
I'll say this, as a Protestant Christian, the thing I get attacked with the most in the Crusades which happened hundreds of years before I was born and was executed by the Catholic Church.
So people don't care, they just want validation for hating us.
First off you linked a subreddit thats not this one so that first point is moot. The second one was just asinine. So we need to take responsibility for our worst members? So muslims need to be responsible for terrorists, christians need to be responsible for the westboro baptist church and gay conversion camps, and americans need to be responsible for gun toting mass murderers. Essentially what you are saying is that it is okay to generalize an entire group as the worst of its kind.
This is exactly what people think of you and instead of disproving the theory, you pos reinforce it daily.
You are monsters and now everyone knows it. Go ahead and deny it all you like but your threads say otherwise.
People are disgusted by each and every one of you and they are right to be. But, at least none of us have to worry about any of you reproducing. Thank God for that.
For me, just a place to vent and shitpost about bad experiences with women with other human beings who understand and won't throw platitudes at you or just automatically assume a woman is in the right by default.
Equal opportunities and the same frequency of them for the same effort made is all I've ever asked for...
The societal problem of purposefully 'deselecting' men with no experience is what actually causes most of the problem...and yet we're told it's all our fault. Sorry - but this isn't an individual problem. It's a societal one which sees adult men treated very differently if they've simply not had the same basic luck as others.
I have read those exact fucking words right over on r/maleforeveralone not four months ago, and worse. One of these days I’m going to waste half an hour, get an imgur account, and screenshot this shit so that you can’t dodge it. Take some responsibility—if you’re going to label yourselves, own the dark shit that goes with that labelinstead of this transparent whining.
85 comments
1 Salvador66 2018-05-03
As if we are a social movement. We are all individual-minded here.
1 itsbeenover 2018-05-03
we rarely agree with each other
1 FinalFantasycel 2018-05-03
too fucking true we’re not organized at all
1 andtheywontstopcomin 2018-05-03
Exactly. People here can barely even agree on what constitutes an incel, or a normie, or a volcel, etc.
1 cyclist_pupper 2018-05-03
Nah, those 3 things are perfectly well defined. People tend to add a lot of their own baggage and scope of things but definitions remain loud and clear.
1 PM_ME_TENDIE_STORIES 2018-05-03
There is debate, such as whether fatcels and mentalcels are incel or volcel.
1 The-Drapery-Falls 2018-05-03
It's very simple. Volcel means voluntary celibate. If you can change it but don't, you're voluntarily choosing not to do anything about your situation.
I'd bet my life savings that 95% of dudes here are volcels that are being self pitying little bitches.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-03
Then you must have not a lot of money to be betting so brazenly.
1 Bury_these_thoughts 2018-05-03
Am I a volcel because I'm giving up and getting a high-end sex doll? Or is that MGTOW?
1 RegisteredLolicon 2018-05-03
yeah fuck you guys
1 anonymousvirgin88 2018-05-03
This we infight almost as much as we outfight.
1 acoverover1 2018-05-03
I disagree
1 imnotgay88 2018-05-03
Well, we could develop into a movement.
1 iankurtisjackson 2018-05-03
Do you think, maybe, that's why you're all so isolated, atomized, inward-looking and frustrated? Maybe if you started engaging in social structures and community, it might make you less bitter, lonely, and angry?
1 frostmonsters2 2018-05-03
Did you even see the comments before? They just said that we're all different and now you're generalizing us.
1 bhavv 2018-05-03
People are wondering on another forum how I could possibly join such a hateful movement as Incels.
I'm like, 'Im a virgin and no one will date me. How does that make me part of a hate / terrorist group?'.
1 Salvador66 2018-05-03
Which forum are you referring to?
1 bhavv 2018-05-03
I've already made a thread for it here if you look up my submitted posts.
1 Normie_Sith 2018-05-03
Prolly just some hack comic-creator who’s trying to gain clout by playing to the crowd.
1 InvalidGuessd 2018-05-03
found of picture of this soyfiend (right)
1 Sniveling_Cur 2018-05-03
fucking
unreal
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-03
Every. fucking. time.
1 escapetheinceldom 2018-05-03
Lmao what a fucking degenerate.
1 PotatoSilencer 2018-05-03
On many incel boards I've seen people calling for revolution and white sharia and shit. Even if it's said in jest it looks super bad when lumped in with all the Elliot Rodgers memes.
This place is sunshine and puppies compared to some incel boards/sites.
1 neighborbirds 2018-05-03
Thank you! I came here from inceltears and the banter is way better here imo.
1 BF8211 2018-05-03
IT banter reeks of soy
1 PM_ME_TENDIE_STORIES 2018-05-03
IT “banter”: HURR DURR HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED WHY YOU’RE VIRGIN?
x1000
1 maskedcel 2018-05-03
No tendies for them. :)
1 sfcel 2018-05-03
You realize these boards are full of nothing but edgy kids?
1 Incel_cure 2018-05-03
LOL
1 DawlaIncelamiya 2018-05-03
And all of them are white lol. When they need to blame whites,they always forget about diversity.
1 Big_Smoke420666 2018-05-03
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH WE WILL TAKE THE GFS
1 iQ9k 2018-05-03
lol
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-05-03
No gods but lord Saint blackops2cel.
1 WahmenMustDIe 2018-05-03
Peace Be Upon Him!!!
1 Guff_McDuff 2018-05-03
If it weren't for the fact that so many incels seem to identify with, or at least feel enamored with the imagery of Elliot Roger, maybe the killing women thing wouldn't be so prominent. And if incels didn't explicitly talk about sex as a right, as well as how people should only always hook up with their looksmatch, then they might not get the idea that incels want people to be assigned relationships.
1 221701 2018-05-03
Nobody cares.
1 tupac_cares_bot 2018-05-03
Tupac cares, if don't nobody else care.
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-03
Incels often joke about that stuff, but people take everything too seriously.
1 WinstonSmith-Corona 2018-05-03
Real people are dead because people didn’t take it seriously. See if you get a pass in future.
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-03
First of all, I'm very skeptical of the whole van guy being an incel issue. That Facebook post is too ridiculous. It reads like a very, very weak troll. Even if the post is real it doesn't mean he is an incel or that he ever visited an incel forum.
Second, are you saying jokes shouldn't be allowed now because of this incident? Are you saying that joking about something illegal or dangerous to others should have consequences? No, of course you're not. That would be ridiculous.
1 WinstonSmith-Corona 2018-05-03
Just stop.
Society is one final Eliot Rodger moment away from labeling you domestic terrorists. No one but you thinks it’s funny.
1 SaltShaker8383 2018-05-03
I think it's funny
1 bengalsturntup5532 2018-05-03
Fuck off
1 HydradenitisSuppura 2018-05-03
What do you think the comic in OP is trying to say? And Ellen Pao's recent tweet calling for CEOs of tech companies to "deal with" ""incels""? Nevermind the fact they would never treat Islam in such a way, or far left extremist terrorists. Both of which are far more common than some mentally ill guys that are obsessed with their virginity.
1 IphisTelethousas 2018-05-03
At that point I'd make a stand and have it tested in court. Incels being labeled terrorists would bar me from working in my profession (teacher) not for anything hateful I've said or done but for the fact that I refuse to yield my preferred self-designation to misogynist assholes and IncelTears posters who can't handle nuance.
1 maskedcel 2018-05-03
They literally want to take away free speech from people that don't agree with them.
Jfl.
1 sfcel 2018-05-03
Then go ahead, take it seriously, what you gonna do? Lineup all virgins and exterminate them?
1 HydradenitisSuppura 2018-05-03
No one talks about sex as a right in ernest, if its talked about at all its to trigger people like you. Elliot is just a meme.
1 destiny-draw 2018-05-03
This is so stupid. We don't want to kill or have government aasigned girlfriends. We want someone who we can connect with and form a partnership with.
1 WinstonSmith-Corona 2018-05-03
I have read those exact fucking words right over on r/maleforeveralone not four months ago, and worse. One of these days I’m going to waste half an hour, get an imgur account, and screenshot this shit so that you can’t dodge it. Take some responsibility—if you’re going to label yourselves, own the dark shit that goes with that labelinstead of this transparent whining.
1 destiny-draw 2018-05-03
Jesus christ thats warpped logic.
1 WinstonSmith-Corona 2018-05-03
How’s it warped? I’m all ears.
1 destiny-draw 2018-05-03
First off you linked a subreddit thats not this one so that first point is moot. The second one was just asinine. So we need to take responsibility for our worst members? So muslims need to be responsible for terrorists, christians need to be responsible for the westboro baptist church and gay conversion camps, and americans need to be responsible for gun toting mass murderers. Essentially what you are saying is that it is okay to generalize an entire group as the worst of its kind.
1 WinstonSmith-Corona 2018-05-03
Incels cross-pollinate, like every other group.
YES. You are your brother’s keeper. Everyone else is expected to self-regulate. Everyone else is expected to shout down extremists. Everyone else is expected to condemn bad behavior. You are too.
1 destiny-draw 2018-05-03
Which I did by saying I do not want to kill or enslave and I just want to find a partner. Again your logic is warpped whennyou see a muslim do you condemn them to since others of their religion are evil? Why are we the only group that is acceptable to generalize as the worst? If it makes you feel better to hear it then here it goes: elliot rodger and the van guy whatever his name is are massmurdering assholes who deserve whatever punishment befalls them. I condemn their actions as evil. Anyone who hurts/kills others doesn't deserve respect or attention.
1 shadowcat211 2018-05-03
I know you are in righteous indignation mode, but the sub did condemn the bad behavior of the Toronto van attacker. Other people's thoughts are not our problem. This is like saying every feminist has to answer for radical feminism. Nice try but doesn't work.
1 Luna_Tuna_456 2018-05-03
1 WinstonSmith-Corona 2018-05-03
I’d link the “call-to-actions” that got posted today and yesterday, but I see I’m wasting my time. You know people read your forum, right?
1 Luna_Tuna_456 2018-05-03
call-to-action would mean we have a scripture that our whole 'ideology' (which we don't even really coherently have) was based on that called for actions to fulfill a requirement for that ideology. Most of the time people read our forums from outside is when someone makes a sperg post or some dumb roastie post that still somehow trolls people and it gets shared around.
1 WinstonSmith-Corona 2018-05-03
Most people who read your forums (and more and more ordinary people do) see you advocating rape ore enslavement of women—which you really do do—and draw the conclusions ordinary people would: you’re demonstrably dangerous, misogynistic malcontents.
1 Luna_Tuna_456 2018-05-03
Most of us don't advocate for rape and enslavement of women. The roastie joke (obviously labia don't grow from intercourse) is funny because you can say something absurd like vaginas have penis recognition abilities and have people argue with you as if you genuinely believe that, even though I don't personally partake in it. The main thing I agree with you on is that incel community does a really piss-poor job at getting rid of the crazies or they continue being edge-lords/trolling past without drawing any lines, which is why I identify more as an associate rather than a member here. 2 of us have killed people, incels are mostly suicidal as a whole. Also incels.me is a lot worse
1 Idk12344482305 2018-05-03
Be afraid of your own shadow then you fucking retard. No one here cares about your feelings, incels are not violent.
1 maskedcel 2018-05-03
"Defend innocents, by murdering and incarceration of other innocents who don't see things the way I do and I'm scared."
Really helping your case there, boyo.
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-05-03
Either link it or you're full of shit.
It'd be grand if you also report it.
1 HydradenitisSuppura 2018-05-03
You don't see this coming from anyone but so called "Far right" types when a terror attack of a certain kind happens. I don't see hardly anyone on the "left" trying to drive out the extremist elements of their ideologies. In fact, its embraced. Until a terror attack or attempted assassination happens. Then its "oh how could this have happened, we had nothing to do with him, if we had to take responsibility for everyone else's actions we would be having a very difficult life", etc.
1 croochie_proochles 2018-05-03
That faggot didn't even post on /r/braincels. He was a 4channer.
1 shadowcat211 2018-05-03
I'll say this, as a Protestant Christian, the thing I get attacked with the most in the Crusades which happened hundreds of years before I was born and was executed by the Catholic Church.
So people don't care, they just want validation for hating us.
1 destiny-draw 2018-05-03
I was going to mention the crusades but like you said they happened hundreds and hundreds of years ago.
1 shadowcat211 2018-05-03
To people who just want to hate Christians, it doesn't matter.
It's like people who just want to hate virgins, they want to pretend that we have some voice to stop the hate but we don't.
1 destiny-draw 2018-05-03
First off you linked a subreddit thats not this one so that first point is moot. The second one was just asinine. So we need to take responsibility for our worst members? So muslims need to be responsible for terrorists, christians need to be responsible for the westboro baptist church and gay conversion camps, and americans need to be responsible for gun toting mass murderers. Essentially what you are saying is that it is okay to generalize an entire group as the worst of its kind.
1 HydradenitisSuppura 2018-05-03
"All people on the internet are the same person if they aren't me"
1 bengalsturntup5532 2018-05-03
Elliot Rodgers didn't even know of incel subs on Reddit idiot
1 Valkyrie131 2018-05-03
This is exactly what people think of you and instead of disproving the theory, you pos reinforce it daily. You are monsters and now everyone knows it. Go ahead and deny it all you like but your threads say otherwise. People are disgusted by each and every one of you and they are right to be. But, at least none of us have to worry about any of you reproducing. Thank God for that.
1 based_meme 2018-05-03
Stop giving the low IQ normies ideas...
1 itsbett 2018-05-03
Unrelated: pic reminds me of csgo when they ask for an eco buy but I am a stupid potato and already bought an ak
1 bengalsturntup5532 2018-05-03
Lol kek
1 incelculturevulture 2018-05-03
What is it that you want though?
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-05-03
To LDAR in peace under the watchful eye of saintblackops2cel.
1 maskedcel 2018-05-03
For me, just a place to vent and shitpost about bad experiences with women with other human beings who understand and won't throw platitudes at you or just automatically assume a woman is in the right by default.
1 SaltShaker8383 2018-05-03
Girls to like me
1 Gobidude 2018-05-03
This isn't us, but I wish it was.
1 Islander642 2018-05-03
Rush B site
1 HalalHaramKabab 2018-05-03
I believe in this.
I don't want to kill women, just circumcise them so they won't be sluts anymore.
1 JackhusChanhus 2018-05-03
Reality check man... some of yous do
1 haymansafc 2018-05-03
Equal opportunities and the same frequency of them for the same effort made is all I've ever asked for...
The societal problem of purposefully 'deselecting' men with no experience is what actually causes most of the problem...and yet we're told it's all our fault. Sorry - but this isn't an individual problem. It's a societal one which sees adult men treated very differently if they've simply not had the same basic luck as others.
1 vulcan5301 2018-05-03
Too much chin in that picture
1 221701 2018-05-03
Nobody cares.
1 retarded_dumbshit 2018-05-03
Incels often joke about that stuff, but people take everything too seriously.
1 WinstonSmith-Corona 2018-05-03
I have read those exact fucking words right over on r/maleforeveralone not four months ago, and worse. One of these days I’m going to waste half an hour, get an imgur account, and screenshot this shit so that you can’t dodge it. Take some responsibility—if you’re going to label yourselves, own the dark shit that goes with that labelinstead of this transparent whining.
1 HydradenitisSuppura 2018-05-03
No one talks about sex as a right in ernest, if its talked about at all its to trigger people like you. Elliot is just a meme.