Seeing women as people is just common sense though.

Are you saying that in certain circumstances women are not people? That equal treatment of men and women shouldn’t be the normal way of thinking? Cause it should be and that IS common sense

Then I guess I don’t see the problem with the statement “you need I see women as people”?

The problem is that it’s a strawman argument based on the implication that incels don’t see women as people.

Shall I forget the multiple coments on the now banned incel sub where men on that sub said that sex should be something that should be just given to a man, or were rape is justified or that all woman are this evil entity.

Yes, because this is braincels.

???

Sure man,. There is zero cross over.

Don't blame braincels for things that were on incels, retard

normies with room temperature iq are so stupid they literally are incapable of being logically consistent.

You rebranded, but you changed nothing.

IM NOT AN INCEL YOU INSUFFERABLE NIGGERFAGGOT

Doesn’t look good for you when you have to use the n word as an insult in your argument

look good? I look good enough to fuck my dick is still wet from fucking for the past 5ish hours

dredging up comments made by random reddit users several years ago

The past is the past, honey.

And currently, you still think same thing those losers did before getting banned, so I wouldn't call it past.

DAE le INCELS ARE LOSERS

lol

P A T H E T I C

sweaty

sweaty

Coming from incel who probably never showers because showering won't get them laid.

All women are pretty bad, whether they admit it or not is another story. Still doesn't mean you shouldn't treat them like people, rapists and thieves are still people!

So women are bad because they can lie?

Are you saying all women are rapists and thieves? Cause there’s definitely some men who are that too

Brother those two statements don't contradict eachother

The problem is in how the phrase is used in real situations - it's used to convince an audience that someone does not, in fact, see women as people. Otherwise, what would be the point in saying it?

It's pure manipulation. It would never be said in a private conversation between two people having an honest conversation because it serves no purpose other than to make a display of another person's devilishness.

No, it is said when someone thinks the way you talk about women is inhumane. They don't understand how someone who would see women as people, or equal to men, could come to these conclusions, so they assume you don't.

Well there's definitely no such thing as common sense in /r/Braincels nor /r/IncelTears lmao.

Its better not to give women the benefit of the doubt. The vast majority are evil

Common sense is a individual construct, and it's different in an people.

People are the worst though

Women don't care how subhumans like us view them, they will always choose Chad anyway.

It would help if society saw men as people, instead of expendable resources whose happiness and mental health are an afterthought.

I hear you saying you believe you are worthless. It's hard see evidence in the world when you don't believe it's there. You're probably experiencing confirmation bias.

Are you seriously trying to argue for that point of view with an username like yours?

Can you clarify that? I don't follow.

Women are people, but they're not men. They don't think like men at all. Thats why incels fail with women, they don't have a basic understanding of the female brain.

Thats why incels fail with women, they don't have a basic understanding of the female brain.

No it's not, lol. This is the whole point isn't it? That they're people, not the Da Vinci code. Ain't nobody having to unlock the secrets of the female brain to have success with women. All these teenage boys slayin' because they 'understand' females?

Chad sees them as fuck objects and they are willing to be fuck objects for Chad.

I make them scream over and over "IM A PIECE OF FUCK MEAT", then i tell them i want them to know they are my piece of fuckmeat all the time, and text them shit and make them be constantly edging themselves. and then i dont talk to them and get tonnes of messages until i finally hit them up and they drop everything to fuck me.

heres a quote from one of my pieces of fuck meat i just got at 6:58 PM yesterday

"It makes me sad that I have to be a person when I really just want to be a rabbit and have sex with you all day"

Heres another one

"Baby I have been wet for you all dayyy" April 28 12:35 PM

Heres a really good one an eye opener into the way chad makes a woman think and feel and act.

"I think my favorite thing about you is that you make me feel like I am 7 years old in the sense that 7 year olds dont have to think about how they act because no one cares. No one expects them to follow social norms they can just be natural and not think about it at all. And its a really nice mind set to be in but its even better becausee we are not 7 and still have all of the freedoms of being adults"

But "women are people" only applies to our generalizations. When they make their generalizations about all women, they see women as all special snowflake individuals with their own unique desires and interests.

Isn't that their point? That "people" means each person will have their own unique desires and interests?

I did carefully read what you wrote. You didn't give any examples of "this and that and x." Maybe you didn't finish your thought. So you didn't actually prove your point.

Blue Pillers slowly concede Black Pill points. 3 or 4 years ago, it was travesty to say women have an easier time finding sex and relationships, nowadays even the normies accept that premise.

What? People have been saying it's easier for women to find sex for literally hundreds of years (and probably longer). Twenty years ago it would have been seriously difficult to find anyone in the West who believed otherwise.

You must be new to reddit then!

Slow as Reddit can be to pick up information, I don't think it is that slow ;p

Oh please. It has been well known for all of history that women have an easier time finding meaningless sex if they want it. This isn't something you guys "discovered"

Everyone has debunked every single one of your points with reality itself. The only part that everyone concedes is the part that no one has ever disagreed with: if you are seriously annoying to look at you'll have a tougher time

There is some truth. It's the ridiculous exaggeration that people are offended by.

It's not healthy to tell an impressionable 16 year old kid that looks are all that matter and if he is sub 8 he should just ldar or be forever suspicious that women only want his neet bux

Every 30 year old virgin was an 18 year old virgin. I knew it was over by the time I was 19 or so. We should encourage the youngcels to looksmaxx but they deserve a place within incel communities too.

I post ridiculous stuff for the sole purpose of triggering normies. It’s entertaining to watch them REEEE.

Little do you know you're just being used.

Wydm?

While you have your "internet debunking" I have my lifetime of observation and experience. Guess which one has more value to me

Isn't that the very definition of confirmation bias? It's not about "internet debunking" it's about the vast majority of people who experience otherwise even though they share the supposed factors that incels claim determine one's fate. While incels make excuses the sheer volume of normies versus incels speaks for itself.

The vast majority of people don't experience racism. Get my point?

go ahead and debunk it all on r/blackpillscience

The mod there is a black pilled incel.

Ultimately regardless of however much you can convince yourself of something, even if you scour Google for dozens of pieces of literature from people sympathetic to your position, the vast majority of your efforts will always be spent making up excuses for why your theory doesn't fit reality.

If any of the claims were true we wouldn't be bouncing back from the worst generation in modern history. All the problems of "hypergamy" only impacted the boomers.

. The classic "women are people" is designed to shame you into feeling like you're an awful human being.

Right? What next, are dogs people? Are we gonna hear a big argument about how DUCKS are fucking people?

I do not understand what would guilt-trip anyone about the phrase "women are people" unless they don't believe that women are people. Know this, no one has ever felt guilty about the phrase "men are people" because no one in the history of humanity has ever thought that that was anything but true.

Put /r/femcels back.

Yet women don't see incels as people...

They see them for what they are. Fags in denial.

people tell you to see women as people because you constantly blame women for not having sex with you, like you're entitled to it

I am not entitled to a programmer job in a good company.

But I am working for it, try harder autist.

Guess i'm a normie.

Even though I am disgusted by this sub, let me give it the benefit of the doubt. What are these points that people don't listen to?

We already see woman as people, "People" mostly are animalistic garbage, so......

What a bunch of faggots

Now you are cherry picking a specific argument. Hit me with your best pro-incel argument and ill refute it.

"incel ideology" as if you guys can form a coherent argument besides "womyn bad no fuck me long time"

Why would I see women as people if they make themselves objects by demanding certain men?

There is some truth. It's the ridiculous exaggeration that people are offended by.

It's not healthy to tell an impressionable 16 year old kid that looks are all that matter and if he is sub 8 he should just ldar or be forever suspicious that women only want his neet bux

I did carefully read what you wrote. You didn't give any examples of "this and that and x." Maybe you didn't finish your thought. So you didn't actually prove your point.

Thats why incels fail with women, they don't have a basic understanding of the female brain.

No it's not, lol. This is the whole point isn't it? That they're people, not the Da Vinci code. Ain't nobody having to unlock the secrets of the female brain to have success with women. All these teenage boys slayin' because they 'understand' females?

What? People have been saying it's easier for women to find sex for literally hundreds of years (and probably longer). Twenty years ago it would have been seriously difficult to find anyone in the West who believed otherwise.

Oh please. It has been well known for all of history that women have an easier time finding meaningless sex if they want it. This isn't something you guys "discovered"